On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Paul Carduner a écrit :
>
>
> > * THE POINT OF THIS EMAIL IS BELOW *
> >
> > I would like to develop a buildout recipe that generates aggregated
> > documentation for a package (like z3c.form) using sphynx
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I've tried to sum up my understanding of how Zope 3 fits in with the Zope
> universe here:
>
> http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects
>
> Beyond that, I think Zope 3 is becoming more and more a collection
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:47:59PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> ...
>> The point of my message was not to whine
>> about the state of zope.testing, but to present a new argument against
>> the current fashion of using plain-text narrative d
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:58:02PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> So let's just build a first nice zope.org with subfolders explaining the
>>> different projects because it's importan
- "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > OK, we decided to go ahead with this work. And we will be using
> > a subdomain of zope.org and it will be hosted using ZF server
> > infrastructu
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> OK, we decided to go ahead with this work. And we will be using
> a subdomain of zope.org and it will be hosted using ZF server
> infrastructure. I will contact Jens once content and site is ready.
Great!
Paul Carduner wrote:
consumption than others). Few people know about this because the
documentation is not aggregated anywhere (except for some bits on
apidoc.zope.org).
Not so! I recently did this at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 . I hope it
helps you.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suppose I find a bug (say, zope.testing.testrunner.StartUpFailure
> objects make unittest.TextTestRunner cry). Being a good developer I
> want to start the bug fix with a unit test.
>
...
> I still maintain that:
>
>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the cases where projects (like Zope 3, Zope 2, CMF and ZODB) don't have
> their own sites, we give them space to maintain some documentation and basic
> information.
That story is better than the original formulation.
Lennart Regebro wrote:
Martins answer doens't seem to have arrived here, so sorry for the
weird quoting:
On 21 Apr 2008, at 11:53 , Martin Aspeli wrote:
Does it really matter whether a microsite lives in
zope.org/projects/zodb or zodb.zope.org?
As mentioned, no.But it's important that it is
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
So let's just build a first nice zope.org with subfolders explaining the
different projects because it's important to have just *something*. At
least.
Sure, that's fine. But that's just o
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I disagree. Very much. Note that we are not forcing everyone to use this
new site; it is perfectly possible for projects to setup their own site.
And in that case we end up with two sites, on
Marius Gedminas a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:48:45PM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
Marius Gedminas a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:36:09AM -0700, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Brian Sutherland wrote:
I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has fin
Martins answer doens't seem to have arrived here, so sorry for the
weird quoting:
> On 21 Apr 2008, at 11:53 , Martin Aspeli wrote:
> > Does it really matter whether a microsite lives in
> > zope.org/projects/zodb or zodb.zope.org?
As mentioned, no.But it's important that it is it's own site, run
On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
...
The point of my message was not to whine
about the state of zope.testing, but to present a new argument against
the current fashion of using plain-text narrative doctests for
everything.
Except that that is not the current fashion, which
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Carduner a écrit :
>
>
> > * THE POINT OF THIS EMAIL IS BELOW *
> >
> > I would like to develop a buildout recipe that generates aggregated
> > documentation for a package (like z3c.form) using sphynx an
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:22:29PM -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> Can't you start a plain-old unittests module and stick your test in
> there? Is there any rule that says you cannot create a plain-old test
> module if the project you are fixing the bug in uses doctests?
I'll probably do that (sin
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So let's just build a first nice zope.org with subfolders explaining the
> different projects because it's important to have just *something*. At
> least.
Sure, that's fine. But that's just one page of explanatio
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I disagree. Very much. Note that we are not forcing everyone to use this
> new site; it is perfectly possible for projects to setup their own site.
And in that case we end up with two sites, one on Zope.org, and it's
On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
Suppose I find a bug (say, zope.testing.testrunner.StartUpFailure
objects make unittest.TextTestRunner cry). Being a good developer I
want to start the bug fix with a unit test.
Now if zope.testing used old-style isolated unit tests, I could
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:44:45PM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Paul Carduner a écrit :
>> * THE POINT OF THIS EMAIL IS BELOW *
>> I would like to develop a buildout recipe that generates aggregated
>> documentation for a package (like z3c.form) using sphynx and publishes
>> it to t
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:48:45PM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Marius Gedminas a écrit :
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:36:09AM -0700, Stephan Richter wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Brian Sutherland wrote:
I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has finished packaging
>>
Can't you start a plain-old unittests module and stick your test in
there? Is there any rule that says you cannot create a plain-old test
module if the project you are fixing the bug in uses doctests?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suppose I find a bu
Suppose I find a bug (say, zope.testing.testrunner.StartUpFailure
objects make unittest.TextTestRunner cry). Being a good developer I
want to start the bug fix with a unit test.
Now if zope.testing used old-style isolated unit tests, I could open the
tests.py (or tests/test_testrunner.py) in a te
Marius Gedminas a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:36:09AM -0700, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Brian Sutherland wrote:
I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has finished packaging
a large proportion of the Zope 3 stack as separate Debian packages based
on the se
Paul Carduner a écrit :
* THE POINT OF THIS EMAIL IS BELOW *
I would like to develop a buildout recipe that generates aggregated
documentation for a package (like z3c.form) using sphynx and publishes
it to the new zope.org website. I want updating of zope documentation
on zope.org to be
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:36:09AM -0700, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has finished packaging
> > a large proportion of the Zope 3 stack as separate Debian packages based
> > on the setuptools tarball
Hi!
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:49:07PM -0700, Timothy Selivanow wrote:
> I'm getting a Traceback when running `python setup.py test` for
> ZConfig-2.5.1 as per the changelog. Attached is the output, let me know
> how I can help. I'm not a proficient python programmer; however, I'm
> more than wi
Hi Paul,
I guess I have officially volunteered to write content for the new
zope.org site in the zope 3 section. Part of that involves describing
what zope 3 is in a concise manner. I realize there are probably a
lot of different opinions about what zope 3 is, so I would like to
solicit the co
Hi All,
I guess I have officially volunteered to write content for the new
zope.org site in the zope 3 section. Part of that involves describing
what zope 3 is in a concise manner. I realize there are probably a
lot of different opinions about what zope 3 is, so I would like to
solicit the com
- "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work.
> > Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon
> > will be he
Hi,
if there are no objections I'll do bugfixes releases for Zope 2.9 and 2.10
around May 11th. So fix what you have to fix in advance :-)
Andreas
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On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has finished packaging
> a large proportion of the Zope 3 stack as separate Debian packages based
> on the setuptools tarballs from the KGS.
Okay, so I think we should use the KGS and declare the s
Hey Christian,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:01PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. You ask good questions and you
> > make good comments.
> >
> > I just keep repeating this as i
Hey,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:01PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. You ask good questions and you
> make good comments.
>
> I just keep repeating this as it's just too easy to get into a what
> color should the bikeshed be discussion about naming and meani
Hey Christian,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:28:35PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > [...good pointers...]
>
> >
> > Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like
> > this either. I'd rather not d
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:28:35PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> [...good pointers...]
>
> Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like
> this either. I'd rather not distract people from actually producing
> useful websites. :)
It's definitely not productive in the way that
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Kent Tenney wrote:
From Kevin's blog
http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/22/paver-and-the-building-distribution-deployment-etc-of-python-projects/
(http://tinyurl.com/68sz6u)
Very interesting. I hadn't seen that. I wonder *how* it is using
buildout's machinery.
Kent Tenney wrote:
From Kevin's blog
http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/22/paver-and-the-building-distribution-deployment-etc-of-python-projects/
(http://tinyurl.com/68sz6u)
Very interesting. I hadn't seen that. I wonder *how* it is using
buildout's machinery.
Regards,
Martijn
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Hey,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like
> this either.
Um, 'productive', not 'produce'. :)
Regards,
Martijn
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Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> I still have the feeling we should spend time getting our story straight. For
> example: Why is "zc.buildout" a "Zope project"? The new site starts talking
> about the "Zope libraries" which people s
Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
I'm on the fence on this one. I think as long as the site *says* it's
affiliated with the Zope project, the Zope community and the
foundation, we're fine. You can argue both directions here: we might
ev
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> I'm on the fence on this one. I think as long as the site *says* it's
> affiliated with the Zope project, the Zope community and the
> foundation, we're fine. You can argue both directions here: we might
> even *help* send the
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> I personally think we *must* introduce buildout somewhere in zope.org, but
> if someone also build a more complete separate site (with potentially a
> queriable repository of recipes), it's ok, and
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[buildout.org versus buildout.zope.org]
> Agreed, we shouldn't hide ourselves. I think *.python.org is a step
> too far. What I do think is that it's good to let projects that *do*
Christian Theune a écrit :
True. Considering that the current zope.org effort hopefully won't die (when
are we going to go live? Is there something like a check list or road map?)
I will be working on it for 3 days at the Paris sprint
Hope I will succeed in doing something useful...
Right. B
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[buildout.org versus buildout.zope.org]
> > Agreed, we shouldn't hide ourselves. I think *.python.org is a step
> > too far. What I do think is that it's good to let projects that *do*
> > stand on their own
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Tue Apr 22 20:59:15 EDT 2008
URL: http://m
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > I think it is better not to associate Buildout with zope.org domain.
> > > So, either we can create a new domain www.
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > I think it is better not to associate Buildout with zope.org domain.
> > So, either we can create a new domain www.buildout.org
> > or if you all agree a subdomain of python.org : buildout.python.
Hi there,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work.
> Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon
> will be helping us to create this site [1].
Great! [we already had some pri
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:14:56AM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Christian Theune a écrit :
>> Well. If there are updates that we want to be in the release (from your list
>> zope.app.locales counts AFAICT) we need to do another release candidate. If
>> we'd be good to release 3.4.0 right aw
Christian Theune a écrit :
Well. If there are updates that we want to be in the release (from your list
zope.app.locales counts AFAICT) we need to do another release candidate. If
we'd be good to release 3.4.0 right away, then there can't be any changes from
the release candidate. (Getting minor
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:58:28AM +0200, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> I'd like to announce that the SchoolTool project has finished packaging
> a large proportion of the Zope 3 stack as separate Debian packages based
> on the setuptools tarballs from the KGS.
>
> The current development version of
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:29:22AM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Christian Theune a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:19:55AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I asked already six weeks ago about the schedule for the final 3.4 release
>>> and got no reply so far. So on
Christian Theune a écrit :
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:19:55AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
Hi,
I asked already six weeks ago about the schedule for the final 3.4 release
and got no reply so far. So once again the same question...how is in charge
for doing the 3.4 release?
I'm afraid nobody
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37:10AM +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Lennart Regebro a écrit :
>>
>> Microsites, microsites, microsites!
>
> If there are lots of people wanting to set up a bunch of microsites, I
> agree it would be better to have them.
> However, the site is needed for a l
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:00:15PM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work.
> Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon
> will be helping us to create this site [1].
Cool!
> I think it is better not
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:19:55AM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I asked already six weeks ago about the schedule for the final 3.4 release
> and got no reply so far. So once again the same question...how is in charge
> for doing the 3.4 release?
I'm afraid nobody really is in charge c
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