[Zope-dev] plone 4.1: can not access plone 3.5 site after startup
Hi there, I created a 4.1a3 buildout and added all needed products, of which I had to adapt some to be able to start at all. Then I copied the data.fs of a 3.5x site. Now in the ZMI, when I want to navigate to the plone 3.5 folder I get the following error: What can I do to fix that? Do I have to prepare the Data.fs somehow? thanks robert 2011-03-02 11:57:55 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog 1299063475.730.425785426825 http://localhost:8481/focus/focus Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 115, in publish Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 437, in traverse Module ZPublisher.BeforeTraverse, line 97, in __call__ Module Products.CMFCore.PortalObject, line 78, in __before_publishing_traverse__ Module zope.event, line 23, in notify Module zope.component.event, line 24, in dispatch Module zope.component._api, line 136, in subscribers Module zope.component.registry, line 321, in subscribers Module zope.interface.adapter, line 585, in subscribers Module zope.component.event, line 32, in objectEventNotify Module zope.component._api, line 136, in subscribers Module zope.component.registry, line 321, in subscribers Module zope.interface.adapter, line 585, in subscribers Module plone.browserlayer.layer, line 14, in mark_layer Module zope.component._api, line 179, in getAllUtilitiesRegisteredFor Module zope.component.registry, line 176, in getAllUtilitiesRegisteredFor Module ZODB.Connection, line 859, in setstate Module ZODB.Connection, line 913, in _setstate Module ZODB.serialize, line 613, in setGhostState Module zope.component.persistentregistry, line 40, in __setstate__ Module zope.interface.adapter, line 91, in _createLookup Module zope.interface.adapter, line 439, in __init__ Module zope.interface.adapter, line 476, in init_extendors Module zope.interface.adapter, line 480, in add_extendor AttributeError: type object 'IDatabaseSettings' has no attribute '__iro__' 2011-03-02 11:57:55 WARNING OFS.Uninstalled Could not import class 'IThemeSpecific' from module 'focus.theme.browser.interfaces' 2011-03-02 11:57:55 WARNING OFS.Uninstalled Could not import class 'IFocViewletManager' from module 'focus.theme.browser.interfaces' 2011-03-02 11:57:55 ERROR ZODB.Connection Couldn't load state for 0x19746b Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/ZODB3-3.10.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/ZODB/Connection.py, line 859, in setstate self._setstate(obj) File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/ZODB3-3.10.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/ZODB/Connection.py, line 913, in _setstate self._reader.setGhostState(obj, p) File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/ZODB3-3.10.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/ZODB/serialize.py, line 613, in setGhostState obj.__setstate__(state) File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/zope.component-3.10.0-py2.6.egg/zope/component/persistentregistry.py, line 40, in __setstate__ self._createLookup() File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/zope.interface-3.6.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/zope/interface/adapter.py, line 91, in _createLookup self._v_lookup = self.LookupClass(self) File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/zope.interface-3.6.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/zope/interface/adapter.py, line 439, in __init__ self.init_extendors() File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/zope.interface-3.6.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/zope/interface/adapter.py, line 476, in init_extendors self.add_extendor(p) File /home/zope/focus4/eggs/zope.interface-3.6.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/zope/interface/adapter.py, line 480, in add_extendor for i in provided.__iro__: AttributeError: type object 'IDatabaseSettings' has no attribute '__iro__' ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager
many thanks for the tremendous work you have done. I always wondered how long your days must be .. robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
Am 05.01.2010 08:13, schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the fish connection and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for BlueBream, as this indicates something very new, which frees itself from those endless Zope 3, Zope 3 Application Server, Zope blah blah... considerations. And getting an endless discussion about Zope, Zope Toolkit, Zope 2, Grok, Bluebream, repoze.bfg … I am just creating a German broschure about Zope and we are relaunching zope.de these days, and I can tell you it is hell to explain what Zope is. What's in a name? I don't mind having a name for a reborn Zope 3 and Bluebream might be ok. But we must keep an eye on our trademark Zope. What is Zope if we have - Zope Toolkit - Zope 2 - Grok - Bluebream - BFG Seems that there is no Zope anymore. ;-) juh I agree, we have two names that ar known to a wider audience: Zope and Plone. all the other items bear so little market value that even an insider can not place them. Therefore I think either of the two should be part of any new packages name meant to be recognized by non Zope affectionados. Bluebream for Zope BlueZope Bluebream gone Zope what ever robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring
Martijn Faassen schrieb: Hi there, Christian Theune wrote: a long-standing issue with our mirror of svn.zope.org are the absolute URLs of externals: they require the repository to be available on a given URL. I propose to use relative URLs for externals. I guess a complete update isn't necessary, but I'd like to improve the situation and start using them from now on. Maybe we should also put a commit hook in place as a safety belt? However, this requires Subversion 1.5 which we are using on the server already, but I don't know whether we assume clients are 1.5 or higher. I certainly still use a SVN 1.4.x client, being on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (released just last year). I don't think SVN 1.5 is common enough yet to make such a move possible. you still can use 1.4 clients an a 1.5 server I think.. robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site - Locus
One reason Locus might be a bad word is because it's easily confused with Location, a concept we already have. an other one is that in german locus is often used for a place where you sit down and use paper to clean your back afterwards.. robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK futures: one big package?
chris you have *exactly* mirrored my feelings as a longtime zope2 user/application developer getting in touch with plone3/five. now after a year digging in it I still am not free of it thanks a lot robert Chris McDonough schrieb: I realize now that I've neglected to give sufficient reasoning for why less granular packaging would be a good thing. I've noticed that there's a common theme in Zope development, software, and packages that I can only describe as power law development or turtles all the way down. It's a bit of an antipattern, unfortunately. I'll provide an example by way of Zope-3-the-appserver. In an application that uses Zope-3-the-appserver, many individual subframeworks will be used. For example, there is a traversal subframework, a security subframework, a cataloging subframework, and so on. Each of these subframeworks acts as a logical unit, and through the magic of the component architecture, each can be replaced wholesale by registering some adapter. However, each of these subframeworks tend to also have settings that can be configured. For example, individual traversal steps for certain types of objects can be overridden by registering an adapter that *configures* the subframework. In the case of Zope 3, we have a traversal situation where the larger traversal subframework can either be replaced wholesale via an adapter registration or extended piecemeal via other adapter registrations. The problem is that the mechanism to *replace* the subframework is the same as the mechanism to *configure* it (both are done via adapter registration, sometimes even in the same file). This is theoretically fine. But in reality, it's tremendously hard for someone just walking up to a complex system like Zope 3 to discern adapter registrations that replace subsystems from those which merely configure subsystems. An inability to discern the difference leads to situations where people just don't get the joke and try to wiggle wires to configure-to-death a existing subsystem that's clearly suboptimal for their use case instead of just replacing it wholesale with a much simpler custom policy. They just don't know it was engineered to be replaced. So they keep adding more configuration code to the existing subframework to handle various 1% edge cases. Often this code makes the subframework tremendously complex, and the subframework grows inappropriate dependencies along the way. *Sometimes* the situation gets so confusing for a new user, they just quit and go use something else. This is a pattern that happens over and over again in Zope development. In my personal opinion, the original error was trying to make the subframework configurable at all. Instead, the subframework should be replaceable easily, but it should itself be relatively rigid. At very least, for subframeworks that really do require extra configuration (should be very few), this configuration should be done via highly specialized ZCML directives (or grokkers), as opposed to some very general adapter registration that can't be easily discerned from other adapter registrations by a newbie. If the subframeworks were more rigid (but replaceable), the *intent* of the subframework author could be more easily discerned, and fewer people would fall into the trap of adding more configuration code to a subframework instead of just replacing it entirely. And fewer people would just walk away in frustration. What does this have to do with packaging? Well, currently, there's a dizzying number of packages that make up the ZTK (nee Zope 3). Each of these packages is a pure peer of all others in a PyPI listing with no real way to get a sense of their relative importance other than performing a linear audit. Even if a user *does* do a linear search of all of them, it's still awful hard to discern for some new user which ones are important, and which ones just happen to exist by some inequity of history without trying to install it. The user needs to gain some holistic knowledge of the system in order to discern the important bits from these historical inequities. Most new users understandably just walk away from *all* Zope packages before they gain this knowledge; it's just too hard for them to tell the difference between the truly important and reusable bits and the stuff that just happens to be packaged up and released but which is useless outside of some highly specific context. In effect, we just don't communicate *intent* very effectively in our current packaging structure. In my opinion, this is why a lot of Python developers who are otherwise very smart have given up on trying to use Zope packages. The time required to figure out which ones are useful and which ones aren't is just too high. It's way easier for them to write them all off
Re: [Zope-dev] ComputedAttribute Object
Sandrine Meyantchop schrieb: Hello, i want to know how i can convert a ComputedAttribute Object to a String. I have exactly the problem explain here: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Ape/19 but i want to have a string in state of a ComputedAttribute Object. Any Ideas?? Sandra ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) str(object) ?? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ComputedAttribute Object
Sandrine Meyantchop schrieb: i have only try with str, but the problem is that i want to have for example the title but str(self.title) return ComputedAttribute object at 0xb7cdb8a0. self.title() ?? --- En date de : *Lun 27.4.09, robert rottermann /rob...@redcor.ch/* a écrit : De: robert rottermann rob...@redcor.ch Objet: Re: [Zope-dev] ComputedAttribute Object À: elsand...@yahoo.fr Cc: Zope-Dev@zope.org Date: Lundi 27 Avril 2009, 8h40 Sandrine Meyantchop schrieb: Hello, i want to know how i can convert a ComputedAttribute Object to a String. I have exactly the problem explain here: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Ape/19 but i want to have a string in state of a ComputedAttribute Object. Any Ideas?? Sandra ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) str(object) ?? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ComputedAttribute Object
I do not know try Title Title() ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope
I see no reason at all to rename anything. remeber the days when there was dBase3. and then dBase4 came allong. technically better but never took off ? To the day things are either dBase or dBase3 compatible. A simmilar situation we have with Zope. Like dBase, Zope is a base technology. How its named is not (very) important. Nobody but techies will be interested. And they quickly will learn what the different bits in the tool-chest are used for. What ever they are named. robert Martijn Faassen schrieb: Hey, Okay, in the interests of making this discussion go quickly, there has been enough negative feedback about renaming Zope 2 to think we have no realistic chance of renaming it. We are still stuck with the following perceived sequence: Zope 2, Zope 3 which implies that people should want to upgrade. How to get out of that bind? We could consider renaming Zope 3. Is there any potential for this? I'll note that I don't think there's as much at risk here: Zope 2, Zope 3, Zope Framework. This isn't a progression that people want to upgrade to either, but it may give the wrong impression. If we don't call Zope Framework 4.0, we'll be fine. We should call its first release 1.0 and there's no implication of a progression. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org
hi andreas, thank you very much for your efforts Concerning the look feel: unless someone volunteers for taking over the responsibility for providing a Plone theme, I will step forward trying to coordinate this with the design efforts that are currently in progress for the relaunch of www.zope.de. Assuming the consent of my colleagues (which I am sure to get) I would like to offer cooperation with design of the new site. such work should in any case be done on the base of what dzug is doing for the dzug site. I am sure we can take over responsibility at least during development. later things might be reassigned. robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope2docs
thanks a lot for the effort that has been put into the new zope documentation. I have a litte wish: the colors of the index (light green on whit) is uncomfortable to my eyes and hard to read. maybe this could be changed to a more contrasting combination? robert Andreas Jung schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In preparation for the upcoming Zope 2.12 release we reorganized the Zope 2 documentation: - - all related documentation is now maintained a restructured text document in SVN: svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope2docs - - The Zope Book, The Zope Developers Guide and some ZODB articles have been converted from STX to ReST - - The Zope 2.12 doc folder has been restified and is included within the zope2docs folder through a svn:external - - The Zope 2 specific documentation including releases notes will be generated in the future using Sphinx from 'zope2docs2' and published on docs.zope.org Thanks to Hanno and Tres for reSTifying the Zope book and the ZDG. Andreas - -- ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: i...@zopyx.com - Phone +49 - 7071 - 793376 Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, Handelsregister A 381535 Geschäftsführer/Gesellschafter: ZOPYX Limited, Birmingham, UK - E-Publishing, Python, Zope Plone development, Consulting -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkmgDVAACgkQCJIWIbr9KYyZMQCfShleZE5uqRL2f/UJvXxwkz8X QKoAmQHSNGC/mJMxxznzK79aAPidRc9k =Nw53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] SOAP support?
Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, I think it would be time to support SOAP out-of-the-box in some way in Zope 2. XMLRPC is still a useful functionality but the whole world speak of web-services and Zope should support building web-services at least on the SOAP level. I am sure that would bring back some more attention to Zope as application-server. There are several SOAP related products available on zope.org. Does anyone know about their functionality, pros cons? I know that there is also some SOAP support available for Plone/Archetypes (I think written by Benjamin Saller). i like the idea ver much, we have been doing a number of projects that needed SOAP connectivity. we always used pythons HTTP/URL-libs to connect to the services. therefore I can not comment available Zope/Plone based tools. Using SOAP implementing these project not only might have been more straight forward but would have left the client (even) more confident to have chosen the right tool. robert begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that should at least be checked before the next releases. I think I will have some time at or or after PyCon to care about the release. Andreas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) Andreas, could you please add a fix for http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1819 it is absolutely trivial and needs no testing (there is a stale parameter final on line 49 of Products/ZODBMountPoint/MountedObject.py) thanks robert begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10
Rocky Burt wrote: Max M wrote: If there is another practical way to do it, that would be fine too. I don't know about sqllite. But if it's more difficulte than dropping a package into a directory it would be bad. Personally I'd be a huge proponent of including SQLite in zope core. It is extraordinarilly functional and has few requirements. I particularly like using it to ensure unit tests against RDBMS connections work properly. Requiring a user to install postgresql just to run the unit tests of a product is somewhat unfeasible. - Rocky I would like that. Whenever giving a Zope/Plone class I end up using gadfly since this is the only db every one attending can use. As gadfly is very limited, it would be great to have something a bit more powerful. I would like to help making this possible. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 22. Dezember 2005 12:32:07 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think we should inlcude more 3rd party products into zope core unless they are required for core funtionality. And a random database adaptor isnt really core functionality. Another point: with Zope 2.10 we want to replace more and more duplicate code from the Zope 2 core with Zope 3 code. Since out-of-the-box RDBMS functionality might be off interest for the Zope 3 community it should be part of the Zope 3 (to be re-used within Zope 2). I think that would be the way to go if there is consensus about the necessity for having Sqlite in Zope 2/3 (the license issue is still an open point). -aj I perfectly agree with both of these arguments. However having a dead easy to use RDBMS tool is very convenient. Both for teaching and marketing purposes. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Modifying a ZPT state based on a certain parameter
Mike, this is not a task for zpt but for a python script. I would suggest you write a script that gets all courses with a given db-state and check them to be in the corresponding workflow state. If not change the workflow state. this script you call regularly (daily, hourly, when ever the db has changed ..) Robert Takahashi, Michael wrote: Hi guys, I am running on Zope 2.7.6 with Plone 2.0.5. I am currently building a dynamic application using MySQL as the backend database. I'd like to be able to change a ZPT's state based on a parameter passed by the db. For example, I have a ZPT that displays information for a particular course. However, if this courses active field is set to NO, then I would like to be able to have the ZPT's state be visible. If the courses active field is set to yes then I would like to modify the state so that the ZPT is published. I'm thinking I'd probably have to use the wf_tool in conjunction with portal_workflow? A call similar to something like so: tal:condition=python:records.active=='yes' ...then implement the necessary call to modify the workflow and make the ZPT published and vice versa. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] opaque items, events
Florent Guillaume wrote: Directing to Zope-dev as this is not CMF-specific. On 7 Dec 2004, at 6:25, Robert Rottermann wrote: The methods that need to send events are: manage_afterAdd manage_beforeDelete (both in various classes) move_object_to_position (would be moveObjectsByDelta for straight Zope) manage_renameObject manage_pasteObjects manage_clone We also need a manage_editObject (or similar) event to react on objects being edited. Yes but I'm talking about existing points where hooks are needed. But indeed the semantics for edit events have to be devised. In the context of CMF we have a central point (reindexObject) that mostly does it. Yes I konw and use it. The problem that when more than one product wants to use it, the outcome is not well defined. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles
Thanks for your answer, Dieter Maurer wrote: And If I can express yet an other wish: I would very much like to have a way to see what the settings for a particular User is. And where the settings for a given permissions have come from. You might be interested in GRUFs Audit. When I tried it in my installation, it entered an infinite loop -- apparently some bug. But conceptually, it may come near to what you want. I do have such a tool myself. It is only that I think it should be provided by the core. Using my own tool I am allways afraid that I did not understand an obscure aspect of the security machinery correctly. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles
I would very much apreciate such an enhancment. so ++1 I would like to see where a role was assigned. And If I can express yet an other wish: I would very much like to have a way to see what the settings for a particular User is. And where the settings for a given permissions have come from. Robert Dieter Maurer wrote: Local roles are acquired from ancestors. While this is not bad for e.g. a Manager local role, its conceptual usefulness is in great doubt for e.g. the Owner role. It is very unclear why an Owner of a folder should automatically be an Owner of all its content. I therefore propose to make acquisition of local roles customizable. I see two potential variants: 1. objects get a boolean flag __ac_acquire_local_roles__ with default value True which allows acquisition of all local roles. 2. objects get a dictionary __ac_acquire_local_roles__ mapping role names to a boolean which allows acquisition for the respective role. Of course, the second variant provides more fine grained control and will require a more complex UI. The change would affect the methods allowed and getRolesInContext. of AccessControl.User.BasicUser and would require new methods in AccessControl.Role.RoleManager to read and modify the new __ac_acquire_local_roles__. Moreover, I propose to change the local role management pages. When setting local roles, information about acquired local role definitions is very helpful. I therefore propose to display this information on the local role edit page. I even would prefer a much more drastic change for both local role management and permission-role-map management: a compact look only overview mapping roles to users and permission to roles, respectively, with links to a page to edit the association of a single role or permission, respectively. Something like: Role| acquire | locally assigned users| ancestor assigned users - Owner | no | dieter| admin, dieter - Manager | yes| dieter| admin - The Role column is a link to a page to edit acquire and locally assigned users for the respective role. Advantages: * more natural behaviour for roles like Owner * access restricted sub-sites would be much easier to implement * more informative management pages Risks: * Classes deriving from AccessControl.BasicUser may have overridden allowed and getRolesInContext. Such overridden methods would not interpret __ac_acquire_local_roles__ until adapted. Fortunately, it is not very likely that these two methods are overridden. * Local roles get a bit more complex. However, explicit acquisition control is already used for the permission role mapping. Thus, users could recognize the same concept. * The 2.8/2.9 edition of the Zope Book would need to be adapted. If there is interest, I could implement the changes and provide patches against the Zope SVN version. However, I do not have write permissions to the repository. This means, someone else would need to make the actual checkins. BTW: Almost surely, I will implement the proposed change in our private Zope copy and use it in one of our projects. This means, I could provide production experience for the change in some months. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles
I agree with you, technically it is not in line with Dieter's proposal. But locically. Whenever I come accross one I have to deal with the other. And I never said, that we have to add all the information to one single table.. As you said, it is not really hard to write the code for a task as I propoaed. It is the fact that there is no easy way to get at this (badly needed) information that is anoying. Robert Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2004 21:35 Uhr +0200 robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to see where a role was assigned. And If I can express yet an other wish: I would very much like to have a way to see what the settings for a particular User is. And where the settings for a given permissions have come from. Your problem is mainly a problem of visualization. and at least not directly related to Dieters proposal. For a project I wrote a UI where you can see for a given object in the ZODB hierarchy which permission/role settings are defined above in the tree and which subobjects override the settings. The code for doing this is not really a problem. The problem is how to put these informations in a UI. Given the nature of the problem one would really need a 3D display..maybe 4D :-) Andreas Jung zopyx.com - Software Development and Consulting Andreas Jung ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Product Testing
Do not run Zope as a service but from a batch file (you find it as /YOURINSTANCE/bin/runzope.bat) Then I would propose using wing from www.wingide.com. I recomend the beta 2.0 version since it has a muchg nicer UI than the V 1.X Robert Marshall Powers wrote: I'm somewhat new to zope in general, and I've been having some trouble developing products. Im running 2.7 on WinXP as a windows service. My biggest problem is with debugging my products. Right now, the only feedback I get is whether or not the zope service starts successfully. It would really help if I could get some error message as to what part of my product zope choked on. Any Ideas? Thank You, Marshall ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] cvs down ??
Hi there, I try to access the Zope cvs anonymously according to the instructions. However it fails. Has anything changed, or is this temporarily. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/zope/Products cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository co Zope cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to cvs.zope.org:2401 failed: Connection refused ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] cvs down ??
Tim Peters wrote: [robert rottermann] I try to access the Zope cvs anonymously according to the instructions. However it fails. Has anything changed, or is this temporarily. :pserver: access is disabled for now, because of recently announced security holes. It will be enabled again when (and if?) CVS is repaired and installed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/zope/Products cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository co Zope cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to cvs.zope.org:2401 failed: Connection Refused Maybe better news: if you want Zope HEAD, that's been moved from CVS to SVN. Install an svn client, and do svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk Zope Tim, thanks for your answer, what I would like to download is CMFSetup Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Read-only root database doesn't work ... bug or feature?
Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:53:35AM +0200, robert rottermann wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to mount my main storage read-only with zope 2.7.0. I'm starting to suspect that it's impossible. (snip) we had a simmilar problem. Eventually we spved it by patching zope. However I am not sure whether the problem was caused by Products (we do it for a plone site ) or by Zope itself. what we changed is on a windows box that is not running under linux. thats why I do not include it here. However I can rboot that machine and send it to you if you like. Please do! That would be much appreciated. Thanks! Paul, sorry that it took so long. I just booted my server under windows to get at what adaptations we did, however I found out that I do not have the code on that computer. However it was something allong the line dieter suggested. I am however interested what your findings with Formulator is. We have a very strange problem with the CD we create. A Product of ours that is based on Archetypes is not initialized correctly. We have to first refresh Archetypes and then our product from the ZMI. If you have an idea what could be the problem he: Hints are welcome. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Read-only root database doesn't work ... bug or feature?
Paul Winkler wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to mount my main storage read-only with zope 2.7.0. I'm starting to suspect that it's impossible. I tried a few things below - ATTEMPT #1. I find this in the zope.conf examples: # Directive: read-only-database # # Description: # This causes the main Zope FileStorage-backed ZODB to be opened in # read-only mode. # # Default: off # # Example: # # read-only-database on ... so I uncomment that line and restart. Zope starts OK but the database is evidently still writeable, I can still change anything. Is this a bug in the zope.conf examples, or a bug in zope? - ATTEMPT #2. Apparently there is another read-only flag within each database config section. So, I try that. In my zope.conf: zodb_db main # Main FileStorage database cache-size 2 mount-point / filestorage path $INSTANCE/var/Data.fs read-only on /filestorage /zodb_db When I start with this config, zope dies during product initialization which apparently wants to commit: -- 2004-05-19T19:08:10 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't install Formulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 785, in install_product get_transaction().commit() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 232, in commit self._commit_begin(jars, subjars, subtransaction) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 340, in _commit_begin jar.tpc_begin(self) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 692, in tpc_begin self._storage.tpc_begin(transaction) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/BaseStorage.py, line 142, in tpc_begin raise POSException.ReadOnlyError() ReadOnlyError Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49, in ? run() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 19, in run start_zope(opts.configroot) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/__init__.py, line 51, in start_zope starter.startZope() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/__init__.py, line 230, in startZope Zope.startup() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 46, in startup _startup() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py, line 93, in startup OFS.Application.initialize(application) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 279, in initialize initializer.initialize() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 306, in initialize self.install_products() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 553, in install_products return install_products(app) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 584, in install_products folder_permissions, raise_exc=debug_mode) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 785, in install_product get_transaction().commit() File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 232, in commit self._commit_begin(jars, subjars, subtransaction) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 340, in _commit_begin jar.tpc_begin(self) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 692, in tpc_begin self._storage.tpc_begin(transaction) File /home/pw/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZODB/BaseStorage.py, line 142, in tpc_begin raise POSException.ReadOnlyError() ZODB.POSException.ReadOnlyError - So, am I just plain S.O.L.? Is this impossible? (Note: a similar message was sent earlier to dirstorage-users, but experimentation has shown me that the storage implementation doesn't seem to matter... i get the same result with filestorage, directorystorage, or clientstorage.) we had a simmilar problem. Eventually we spved it by patching zope. However I am not sure whether the problem was caused by Products (we do it for a plone site ) or by Zope itself. what we changed is on a windows box that is not running under linux. thats why I do not include it here. However I can rboot that machine and send it to you if you like. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Conflict errors on BDBMinimal storage
Chris McDonough wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 14:15, Tres Seaver wrote: I recently reworked Anthony Baxter's SQLSessions product for a consulting customer, essentially modernizing the code and making it compliant with the new Sessions interface (I dropped the bits which do the work currently done by BrowserIDManager). It took me about six hours or so, including writing unit tests. Unfortunately, I don't have access to that code, due to the nature of the consulting arrangement. What I would like to do is revisit the effort, using the new PluginRegistry code released as part of the PluggableAuthService release; I am, however, pretty well booked up for the next few weeks. I would be glad to advise anybody who felt called to take on such an effort, however. I would also like to see this happen. I don't have the time to help implement this right now, but I may be able to work it in to an ongoing engagement at some point in the next few months. - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) I do not know whether I understand this email correctly. So mabe I am off topic. We would like to use thre PluggableAuthService to replace a userfolder that authenticates against a an email server (calling a web service to do so) and then caches authentification and other user info in a session. So we would like to dig into what both of you seem not to have time to do. How can we get at PluggableAuthService? I did not find it anywhere. And we would of course gladly accept Tres offer for advise. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?!
will not be able to participate easily on the academic Zope3 train. The technic freaks who modell Zope3 are usually not application developers, which have to build and run working applications for real human users. That's both insulting and incorrect. Many of the leaders of the Zope 2 community are involved in Zope 3 and using it. These people are application developers. Jim, we native german speakers tend to be much more direct and phrase dings more bluntly the you americans do. In german I read Maik's statement as a strong opinion but never as an insult. Since I am the one who asked Mike to speak up I would feel bad if it created any bad feelings. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: Zope + Ape + Subversion (was: RE: [Zope-dev] Using a truely r evis ion based storage for Zope ?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad, About the branch thing ... That's basically the idea! The bigger problem here is how to manage this both internally and from a user/administrator perspective. This paradigm only really makes sense in the CMF world anyways, and I want to focus on basic Zope before moving up to the extra layer CMF represents. I'm also worried getting something like this to work with CMF woudl require an ungodly amount of monkey patching :P The main things with CMF would be: 1) published type states vs. other states: how does one tell/define the difference ? How does this information get passed to/from the publishing system or the storage layer ? Possible solution: Have the subversion/zope interface interact with DCWorkflow. When an object is changed, consult DCWorkflow settings and determine what state the object is in. If the state is deemed published, copy the object into the publishing branch. 2) If we got this far, then I need to know when to use the branch vs. the trunk. From a user prespective this isn't too big a deal, a ZMI interface, cookies, etc ... That's all ok ... The problem is that by the time the request comes to the storage side of things, that information is most likely gone (Don't know though, I'm still learning). Then there's the whole caching thing that would probably complicate things. 2) Message logging: CMF comments when doing a workflow action could go straight into SVN's logging, again how this might be accomplished isn't clear as of yet. This is all for the future though, I'm nowhere near this yet!! Also, I'm thinking the cooler features may just have to wait for Zope 3 ... Implementing them in Zope might be too convoluted. I should probably start a Wiki on this topic ! J.F. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13/04/2004 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Zope + Ape + Subversion (was: RE: [Zope-dev] Using a truely revis ion based storage for Zope ?) On 12 Apr 2004 at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways, I'm just rambling by now ... Comments, thoughts and constructive criticism welcome ! This sounds wonderful! Regarding versions. Perhap you can have a control panel setting that selects the branch to publish by default. The ZMI could offer another mechanism that uses cookies to select the desired branch or version That is, a branch name or PREV, HEAD etc. But, I use jEdit and FTP for most of my Zope work, so would really like to have a way to access version/branches via FTP. Maybe that can be done by having pseudo subdirectories named after revisions or branches. So /myFolder/.Prev/index_html would do what you expect (note you can't save to old versions anyway ..) François, we did a versioning Product here at redCOR which is about to go into production. It is served trough DCWorkflow state changes. It stores a series of objects per versioned object. One for each version. No diff's or such. I would be very much interested to adapt it such that it uses an APE/svn augmented storage for it. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope
Fred Drake wrote: Jim Fulton noted: Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a bit ugly. Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages to avoid the conflict? A bit ugly, but I can live with it. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: -1 to renaming 'Zope'; the amount of third-party code which we would break is incalculable. -0 to renaming 'zope' to 'z3', or something; at least third party code for Zope3 was built in the test-driven culture, and has at least some chance of migrating cleanly with confidence. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 10:44 pm, Stephan Richter wrote: You wanna rename 'zope' to 'z3' for the purpose of merging the two? I really hope that will not be the case. Or is this for Zope 2 only? I would hate to have imports like z3.app.foo or even z3.i18n. I am definitely -1 on this option, if it also applies to standalone Zope 3. Tres has a good objection, *if* we actually expect 3rd-party Zope 2 code to work in Zope 3. (I don't know if we have this requirement or not; I've no personal interest in doing so.) If we don't expect 3rd-party Zope 2 code to work in Zope 3, then the second entry on sys.path seems good enough; having a collection of code identified by two different names is unworkable. (Think absolute imports here.) Any requirement that states 3rd-party Zope 2 code work in Zope 3 will have to be worked out; that's the key here. -Fred I have not done anything with z3 yet, tough we intend to start working with it soon. We have a number of products that are mostly plain python within a thin zope-shell. Since we probably would like to use them in z3 and must maintain them in z2 I would like to see a way to mix the two. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: RFC: backward compatibility of ps bindingsRESOLUTION
Brian Lloyd wrote:
I did check with a fresh 2.6 xx
A DCWorkflow script that was not not called with the version from a few
hours ago is now called but produces the following traceback
This happens when the container binding is set to container and also
when it is cleared.
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 92, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 298, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 329, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 126, in _exec
- __traceback_info__: ({'traverse_subpath': [], 'container':
PloneSite instance at 95efa58, 'context': PloneFolder instance
at 9615280, 'script': FSPythonScript at
/zehnder/zehnder/createObject used for
/zehnder/zehnder/tasklist/Task.2004-01-21.1914/Attachments},
(None, 'File', None), {}, (None, None, None))
Module None, line 12, in createObject
Module Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder, line 362, in invokeFactory
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 824, in constructContent
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 516, in constructInstance
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 420, in _finishConstruction
Module Products.CMFCore.CMFCatalogAware, line 101, in
notifyWorkflowCreated
Module Products.CMFPlone.WorkflowTool, line 26, in notifyCreated
Module Products.CMFCore.WorkflowTool, line 362, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 367, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 440, in _changeStateOf
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 543, in _executeTransition
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 298, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 329, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 311, in _exec
Module None, line 1, in setTaskOwner
- PythonScript at
/zehnder/zehnder/portal_workflow/ZWorkflow/scripts/setTaskOwner
- Line 1
AttributeError: StateChangeInfo instance has no attribute
'getPhysicalRoot'
Robert
It would be helpful if you could go through that in the debugger
and see if you can get any more info - I don't see anything in
this that obviously points to any of the recent security changes.
That's not to say that one of those changes couldn't still be the
cause, but this traceback doesn't point to anything we can look
at :(
Alternatively, if you can make a copy of the failing script and
boil it down to the minimum possible code that demostrates something
that should be working but isn't (and that excludes app-specific or
Plone objects if possible so that we can turn it into a unit test)
I can try to look at it here.
thx,
Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716
Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com
Brian,
I tried hard to recreate the problem in isolation but failed. So it must
be something whith what we are doing.
Strange that our code works fine with 2.62.
thanks again
Robert
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: RFC: backward compatibility of ps bindings RESOLUTION
Brian Lloyd wrote:
Jeremy Hylton wrote:
What if you used a special object that would produce a useful error
message if the user tries to access the container.
I like this. Make it a singleton, and put it in the global namespace
for Scripts, so that we can write:
if context is Inaccessible:
# Do without access to context
I've checked in the changes to the 2.6 branch, 2.7 branch and the head
to change the binding behavior for 'container' and 'context':
- If the user does not have access to the item, the script
will bind an UnauthorizedBinding object instead of the
real object, rather than throw an exception at binding
time.
- Any attribute or item access on the UnauthorizedBinding will
throw an Unauthorized, including the name of the binding
that the user didn't have access to.
The result is that if you have scripts where the script container
is inaccessible to the users of the script:
- If the script does not reference 'container' in its code,
things will work without any action on the part of the site
admin
- If the script *does* reference 'container' then a meaningful
Unauthorized error will be raised. Site admins can either
give users the appropriate roles on the script container or
give appropriate proxy roles to the scripts to fix any
problems.
Note that I *didn't* put the UnauthorizedBinding in the script
globals to implement the Inaccessible idea above, because:
- it is kind of 'featurish', at least in that it really should
have some associated documentation etc.
- I want to make only absolutely necessary changes at this
point and get 2.6.4 and 2.7.0 finalized.
If any of the Plone folk who have been running into this issue
can try the changes from cvs, I'd appreciate it.
thx,
Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716
Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com
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I did check with a fresh 2.6 xx
A DCWorkflow script that was not not called with the version from a few
hours ago is now called but produces the following traceback
This happens when the container binding is set to container and also
when it is cleared.
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 92, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 298, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 329, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 126, in _exec
- __traceback_info__: ({'traverse_subpath': [], 'container': PloneSite instance at 95efa58,
'context': PloneFolder instance at 9615280, 'script': FSPythonScript at
/zehnder/zehnder/createObject used for /zehnder/zehnder/tasklist/Task.2004-01-21.1914/Attachments},
(None, 'File', None), {}, (None, None, None))
Module None, line 12, in createObject
Module Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder, line 362, in invokeFactory
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 824, in constructContent
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 516, in constructInstance
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 420, in _finishConstruction
Module Products.CMFCore.CMFCatalogAware, line 101, in notifyWorkflowCreated
Module Products.CMFPlone.WorkflowTool, line 26, in notifyCreated
Module Products.CMFCore.WorkflowTool, line 362, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 367, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 440, in _changeStateOf
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 543, in _executeTransition
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 298, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 329, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 311, in _exec
Module None, line 1, in setTaskOwner
- PythonScript at /zehnder/zehnder/portal_workflow/ZWorkflow/scripts/setTaskOwner
- Line 1
AttributeError: StateChangeInfo instance has no attribute 'getPhysicalRoot'
Robert
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[Zope-dev] 2.6.4.c1 still problem with security
Hi there,
I am using zope from cvs Zope-2_6-branch. I still get the following
assertion in a DCWorkflow which worked flawlessly in 2.6.2
Thanks for any pointers
Robert
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 92, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 292, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 126, in _exec
- __traceback_info__: ({'traverse_subpath': [], 'container': PloneSite instance at 8bbed10,
'context': PloneFolder instance at 96fb608, 'script': FSPythonScript at
/zehnder/zehnder/createObject used for /zehnder/zehnder/tasklist/Task.2004-01-19.3020/Attachments},
(None, 'File', None), {}, (None, None, None))
Module None, line 12, in createObject
Module Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder, line 362, in invokeFactory
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 824, in constructContent
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 516, in constructInstance
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 420, in _finishConstruction
Module Products.CMFCore.CMFCatalogAware, line 101, in notifyWorkflowCreated
Module Products.CMFPlone.WorkflowTool, line 26, in notifyCreated
Module Products.CMFCore.WorkflowTool, line 362, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 367, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 440, in _changeStateOf
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 543, in _executeTransition
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 290, in _bindAndExec
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 1, in ?
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 224, in _getContext
Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access in this context
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7rc1 - Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access '' in this context
Stuart,
I do have the same problem. And it occurs using 2.7x and 2.6x.
I am using local roles heavilly so I wonder whether it is linked to that
Robert
Stuart Bishop wrote:
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In Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings._getContext(self), there
seems to be a new security check:
getSecurityManager().validate(parent, container, '', self)
This is now giving me the following traceback:
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 100, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
Module Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage, line 911, in editPane
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 292, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 106, in _exec
Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 90, in pt_render
- PageTemplateFile at /CGPublisher/w
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 92, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 292, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 126, in _exec
- __traceback_info__: ({'traverse_subpath': [], 'container': PloneSite instance at 8bbed10, 'context': PloneFolder instance at 96fb608, 'script': FSPythonScript at /zehnder/zehnder/createObject used for /zehnder/zehnder/tasklist/Task.2004-01-19.3020/Attachments}, (None, 'File', None), {}, (None, None, None))
Module None, line 12, in createObject
Module Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder, line 362, in invokeFactory
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 824, in constructContent
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 516, in constructInstance
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 420, in _finishConstruction
Module Products.CMFCore.CMFCatalogAware, line 101, in notifyWorkflowCreated
Module Products.CMFPlone.WorkflowTool, line 26, in notifyCreated
Module Products.CMFCore.WorkflowTool, line 362, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 367, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 440, in _changeStateOf
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 543, in _executeTransition
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 290, in _bindAndExec
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 1, in ?
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 224, in _getContext
Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access in this context
orks/2/5/source/getaway/details/editPaneHelper
Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 74, in
pt_getContext
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 224, in _getContext
Module AccessControl.ImplPython, line 398, in validate
Module AccessControl.ImplPython, line 263, in validate
Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access '' in this context
editPaneHelper is just a PageTemplateFile. Storage.editPane
(Python - not Python Script) is calling it like:
return self.editPaneHelper(**options)
Can anyone give me a hint on tracking this down? I have so far been
unable to write a minimal example that fails (they all work), so I'm
unsure if this is a Zope problem or my problem.
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.4.c1 still problem with security
Having read Stuarts post with a similar context I was digging trough
DCWorkflow with the debugger and found that
In Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings._getContext(self), there
seems to be a new security check:
getSecurityManager().validate(parent, container, '', self)
does only allow Manager to access the container of the script that is
called during the DCWorkflow transition.
Any ideas?
Robert
robert rottermann wrote:
Hi there,
I am using zope from cvs Zope-2_6-branch. I still get the following
assertion in a DCWorkflow which worked flawlessly in 2.6.2
Thanks for any pointers
Robert
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 92, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 292, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 126, in _exec
- __traceback_info__: ({'traverse_subpath': [], 'container':
PloneSite instance at 8bbed10, 'context': PloneFolder instance at
96fb608, 'script': FSPythonScript at /zehnder/zehnder/createObject
used for /zehnder/zehnder/tasklist/Task.2004-01-19.3020/Attachments},
(None, 'File', None), {}, (None, None, None))
Module None, line 12, in createObject
Module Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder, line 362, in invokeFactory
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 824, in constructContent
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 516, in constructInstance
Module Products.CMFCore.TypesTool, line 420, in _finishConstruction
Module Products.CMFCore.CMFCatalogAware, line 101, in
notifyWorkflowCreated
Module Products.CMFPlone.WorkflowTool, line 26, in notifyCreated
Module Products.CMFCore.WorkflowTool, line 362, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 367, in notifyCreated
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 440, in _changeStateOf
Module Products.DCWorkflow.DCWorkflow, line 543, in _executeTransition
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 261, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 290, in _bindAndExec
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 1, in ?
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 224, in _getContext
Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access in this context
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Re: [Zope-dev] [ANN] Proposal: Integration of reStructuredText into Zope
I second that cordially Robert - Original Message - From: maxm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] [ANN] Proposal: Integration of reStructuredText into Zope Andreas Jung wrote: Feel free to read and comment on: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ReStructuredTextIntegration +1 regards Max M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] site-layout question
Hi,
for the NZO effort I downloaded the site-layout product.
Looking at the makefiles I see, that in cvs.mk we have a section
# Zope versions
src/Zope-2.5.0: CVS_REPOSITORY=${ZOPE_CVS_REPOSITORY}
src/Zope-2.5.0: CVS_MODULE=Zope
src/Zope-2.5.0: CVS_TAG=-r Zope-2_5_0-src
src/Zope-2.5-head: CVS_REPOSITORY=${ZOPE_CVS_REPOSITORY}
src/Zope-2.5-head: CVS_MODULE=Zope
src/Zope-2.5-head: CVS_TAG=-r Zope-2_5-branch
My question is: What for do we have src/Zope-2.5.0 and src/Zope-2.5-head?
Is this just to be able to test against diverent zope versions?
Thanks for any info.
Robert
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Re: [Zope-dev] DirectoryViews for Zope2.6?
I agree with you. And they depend on CMF only very ligthly. So taking them out of CMF should be easy. Robert - Original Message - From: kapil thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] DirectoryViews for Zope2.6? hi folks, i was wondering if there is interest (or possiblity) of including directory views in zope2.6. i've been using them for team development with zope, and i've come to think their a fantastic dev. method in combination with cvs. any takers? cheers kapil ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Testing Zope Products with Python Debugger
Just install a second Zope and have it running from an other Port. The Product you are developping ypu put in an extra direcory. start.bat for both versions have to be adapted as follows: add a line like the following: set PRODUCTS_PATH=g:\projects\redModules;k:\programme\zope\lib\python\Products; As you can see the PRODUCTS_PATH environment setting points to your shared product directory and the product directory the Zope product path. To one of the Start.bat's add a -P 9000 (or whatever port-range you wish) flag Robert - Original Message - From: William Trenker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:32 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Testing Zope Products with Python Debugger I've read the various tutorials and have successfully used Zope with the Python debugger. But, of course, I can't have my production Zope running and the debugger running at the same time unless I get Zeo going. But is there another way? Is it possible to start Zope in the debugger but have it open a different data.fs file for testing? (I only have one computer and have to keep a small, Zope-driven web site running 24/7 as well as do development on a new Zope Database Adapter.) I've looked into the Zeo How-To and feel a little overwhelmed. And I suspect it is probably asking a bit too much of one Celeron 400 with Windows 98 to have all that running. What do you think? (Sorry, but get Linux or get another computer would be great, but aren't on my immediate horizon.) Thanks, Bill -- The commandments of the LORD are right, bringing joy to the heart. The commands of the LORD are clear, giving insight to life . . . For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. (Psalm 19:8, 1John 5:3)http://torahteacher.com/torahteacher.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/02 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Adding Batch Factory to ZMI Add menu OK?
Would it not be possible to have undo for the Zope portion of the object meaning what is stored in in the ZODB can be undone, what is stored in the fs is as it is. Like that we would have most of what undo offers for a normal element. Robert - Original Message - From: Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Leonardo Rochael Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:45 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: Adding Batch Factory to ZMI Add menu OK? My current project is a product called ZFS and I just got an initial beta working last night and since this project came up. Essentially im hoping this can be a replacement for LocalFS and all External* products. But this sounds very similar to your work... ZFS is folderish object that points to a file system and hacks the storage level of Zope so that when an object is saved, part of it is diverted to the file system. Meaning the textarea part of a DTML Document is saved to the file system. Because it hacks the storage level, this object appears to be a normal object (so you can do all the usual things to, for example pasting it from ZFS to a normal folder means it becomes a normal object. This approach has many advantages and I hope to be able to allow all standard objects (DTML *, Python Scripts, Images, Files) to work in this manner. If running in debug mode, it syncs automatically to the file system, meaning you can create and edit objects on the FS and they sync straight into Zope. If in production mode, you call it manually to update, thus getting much better performance. You obviously lose some features (Undo) and there are still many issues to be fixed, but I need to get it done so expect a release soon. On 27/05/02 18:38 -0300, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: gt; Hello Craeg gt; gt; I particularly prefer the factory aproach. Zope users are already used gt; to that approach because of the Z Search Interface. I think you gt; shouldn't need a dummy class just to be able to create such a factory, gt; but right now I don't know how you'd go about creating a factory without gt; a class. gt; gt; As for an ExternalFileFolder, it would be useful if it automatically gt; created objects when they are added to the respective directory gt; (automatically as in, it checks for new objects when you look at the gt; object list (manage_main), or when you try to access a previously gt; inexistant (sp.) object. Although, because of Data.fs write-on-read gt; concerns, you might want this automation to be configurable on a folder gt; by folder basis). An ExternalFolder might also provide a view or tab to gt; configure default attributes of newly discovered objects. The objects gt; created this way would obviously be regular ExternalFile objects, and gt; you could copy/cut and paste them outside of the ExternalFileFolder gt; object. gt; gt; Cheers, Leo gt; gt; On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 17:32, Craeg K Strong wrote: gt; Hello: gt; gt; I am about to release a new version of the ExternalFile and CVSFile products gt; gt; http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile gt; [...] gt; gt; -- gt; Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like gt; solitary confinement. gt; gt; gt; gt; ___ gt; Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev gt; ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** gt; (Related lists - gt; http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce gt; http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Andy McKay ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZODBCDB/ZSQL does not accept where clause with Zope 5.1
Hi there, I can not use ZODBCDA with an SQL-statement from a ZSQL object that contains a where clause.When I do I get an error stating that 1 parameter was required but none was provided. I did install ZODBCDA (the newest version from the Zope-site) And I did install Zope 5.1 I am using NT2000 I did recompile sql.pyd but it did not help. Can anyone give me a hint what do? Thank you very much Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [ez] DISCUSS: Eurosprint in February
I am interested to join that sprint. Robert - Original Message - From: Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: [ez] DISCUSS: Eurosprint in February We at Torped are interested, and we *can't* host it, which seems to make us unique in this. :-) - Original Message - From: Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: [ez] DISCUSS: Eurosprint in February Howdy. Eurozope has been pretty quiet. I'd like to throw something out for discussion. When last we talked, I was trying to plan an i18n-focused Zope3 sprint in January, somewhere in Europe. That didn't work out, so we're doing the sprint here in Fredericksburg with Juan David and Stephan, next week. (Note: As a reminder, sprint is a term meaning an extreme programming session. We are doing sprints for Zope3 as a way to push its development along, but also to open up its development to non-ZC people.) Instead, we'd like to do a more general sprint in Europe in the second half of February. We'll need: a place and host, a couple of people to act as coaches, and perhaps some topics. Beehive has volunteered to host, so that's the leading candidate right now. I realize this is going to spark a round of emails where some people will attempt to explain why the sprint should be located 7 km from their office. :^) Is there interest in such a sprint? --Paul _ EuroZope mailing list http://eurozope.beehive.de/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://admin.comlounge.net/mailman/listinfo/eurozope ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev
Friends,first thing I want is to express my huge gratitude to have something like Zope and its community.I have read all the all the mail that has been stirred by "that" open letter.I agree very much and I am willing to contribute as much as I can that zope should grow 10x.I found two things missing in the discussion so far that are crucial to attain this goal:- documentationTo start using Zope doing something more than trivial is an incredibly frustrating thing. Hunting for the right piece of documentation is very very hard. The community is very helpful I agree readily. However asking it should be the last resort and being forced to use it as an important part of the developement effort is very cumbersome and time consuming. And does not really take the frustration out of the process.Bruce Eckels postings to this list show that even a developer of his statue is prone to the same effect.I am a seasoned programmer that started to deal with Zope exactly one year ago. It is only now that I learn where to look for what piece of information and to decide which one is relevant and which one is not.- translation supportInternationalisation is crucial. English in the user interface is just not tolerated in a non English speaking part of the world. It is 10 years ago something like that would have been acceptable. I am from Switzerland where we pride ourselves to be multilingual (6 Million inhabitants 4 major languages, English being the fifth). However nobody would think of having anything like English on a public website.There are a number of efforts towards translation support. However to have any of them to succeed it needs the support of ZC which just does not exist.Now I have to hurry getting breakfast(or I get into troubles)Robert
core i18n support (was [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev)
Andreas, sorry if I have not reacted to a questions for assistance in the realm of i18n. I must have missed them. I rarely go to EuroZope since this site seems badly maintained. However I really would like to help with the internationalization of Zope since most of what we do here a my company must be multilingual. I do have considerable experience making programs translatable and I did a multilanguage CMF (with which I never was really happy) Some 6 Months ago I started to collect what is there regarding i18n and Zope. I did get a sizable number of answers. However there where two rather unfortunate tendencies: - multiple, different and incompatible attempts from our side - missing involvement and therefore no shepherding from ZC's side If, as Paul assures, the second point is about to be rectified it might be now the time to do a second such compilation and then start doing it. Robert - Original Message - From: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev - Original Message - From: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 08:22 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev The second is pretty exciting as well. I saw a presentation in Paris by Juan David Palomar, of Localizer fame. (The presentation is now up at http://estce.act.uji.es:9673/localizer). The presentation impressed me on the need to get someone into the core of Zope that knows all these details, but also convinced me that the Zope3 effort needs to anticipate the needs of i18n and l10n. ZBabel and Localizer are good starts, but as jdavid says, both should be thought of as non-core projects that start influencing the core step-by-step. Hi! I fully agree that ZBabel and Localizer don't have to be core projects right now. But the core must be made fit for i18n to make sure that we don't have to patch things like the user folder implementation or the Help! button in the code. In Zopw 2.5, there still seem to be hot spots to fix with regard to i18n. Of course there are hot spots. I have asked multiple times for help on the mailing lists and the Eurozope site to identify such related hot spots. Also I had expect some input of the community regarding at unicode support inside Zope. But there has been no feedback. It looks like no one needs unicode support in Zope ?! :-) Anyway, as a first step Zope 2.5 provides full unicode support for the ZCatalog. I would like to see some volunteers that could help to set up a list of requirements (the list is almost there on the Eurozope site I think) and possible solutions that could be integrated into the Zope core. Referring to the open letter to zope-dev I could also charge the community for zero feedback. But this is not the place and time for flamewars. Instead we should bundle the power of ZC and the community. The opening of the CVS is a good starting point but I would like to see more people contributing. Cheers, Andreas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev
Clark, where is the problem?? Yes ZC ties to make money out of Zope. And I hope they are successful. Don't you know that only those that have can give? If ZC does not make the money to cover their cost how can they give us Zope?? Open source is not only for fun. Also to make money! Robert - Original Message - From: Clark O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andy Dawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev If anyone has seen how open source works, there is usually a strong core team - like the ZC folks- who provide direction to the project. There are also dozens if not hundreds of enthusiastic folks who are less involved but contribute features, patches, bug fixes, documentation ... Despite the fact that Zope is one of the most attractive open source project around today there is no mass appeal to the project. The ZC folks are now struggling with issues that should be handled by folks less knowledgeable. In my humble opinion if the open source process had been allowed to progress unfettered by corporate greed Zope would even now have a state of maturity that it is not likely to reach even in 10 years of development at the current rate. --- Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! To be honest i would be happy for Zope 3 not to be backwards compatible. Tidy it up, delete the unless code, dare i say it - refactor. Yes so my products will break, well half a days refactoring myself and i have a tidier more understandable project anyway. YES, we need a new start. Building on what we have now, of course, but doing things better without having to think about all the legacy stuff. When I see long-time Zope users like Tom Schwaller (who is a Linux legend in Germany) move on to something new like Webware for Python, that makes me wonder if Zope is starting to loose some of its momentum. Zope is a great product. And it becomes easier to sell it every day. But it could be so much better and more easy to use with just a little effort. Just to mention a few points: What we really need is A true vision of what Zope 3.0 is going to be Zope 2.x, together with the CMF, was sold bei DC/ZC as a content management product, which it isn't really. It is a good start for building one, but so many things that are mandatory for a CMS are missing in the out-of-the-box installation. Zope is a nearly perfect document storage, except for its server implementations for FTP (and partly also HTTP/Web-DAV) will not be too useful with major system load. Zope + Python are a dream team for web-based applications. I think that a single product can't be good at all these things. But I also think that Zope could emerge into a suite of near-perfect products for web-based internet and extranet solutions. I think Zope should be split up into components as soon as possible: - a database layer that includes alternatives to the ZODB (using products like DBObjects or the new stuff from 7x - a document management frontend to the database layer that can be used to manage all kinds of docs. Together with add-on products like the document library, Zope already does much of this, but it is not optimized for high loads yet, and products like Microsoft's Sharepoint Server are really coming close now. I wonder why people in the open source community seem to ignore what Microsoft is doing. I don't ask you to USE their software, but we should at least try to get inspired by the good ideas they have (or have collected from others who had them first). What we need in that part of Zope is high-performance real-time cataloging and searching, interoperability with FTP, WebDAV, maybe even SAMBA and NFS, automatic document conversion from Word/PDF to HTML etc. - an application development framework. Here, we need some more work done towards a real IDE (for Python and Zope). A lot of work has been done already by people like Riaan (who maintains Boa Constructor). Most of DTML (if not all) should go, and Python as the main programming language for Zope should be in the focus of documentation and training efforts. I spent more than a year with getting good at DMTL, just to find out in the end that ZClasses/DTML are really limiting and that developing in Python is almost as fast and much more effective. We need full integration between ZODB-code and filesystem code for that. We need ways of doing ZClass-like things with real Python code, and we need CVS-compatibility or something better within Zope. XML-RPC/SOAP/Webservices could be a strong part of this. - a real, complete, out-of-the-box CMS, based on the other three components. I know that there are at least a dozen good CMS BASED on Zope,
Re: [Zope-dev] How to render DTML that is not stored in the ZODB?
Create a dtml-method programmatically and feed it your text with dtml vars
embedded.
Like so:
def _dealWithDtml ( self, data ) :
num_id = int(random.random() * 10)
str_id = 'tmp' + str(num_id)
self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addDTMLMethod(id=str_id,
title='')
obj = self[str_id]
obj.manage_edit(data, '')
data = obj(self, self.REQUEST)
self.manage_delObjects(str_id)
return data
robert
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Subject: [Zope-dev] How to render DTML that is not stored in the ZODB?
Hello!
I have a bunch of dtml in my Oracle DB, that I of course want to render.
doing the dtml-var expr=_.getitem('column_name', 1) does not work.
I essence Zope does not render strings in variables to DTML.
Any suggestions? (It has to be DTML)
*MANY* Thanks In Advance.
/dario
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Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ????)
Thank you, I did it with an external method def t (self) : cp = getattr(self, 'Control_Panel') delattr(cp, '_objects') and it worked. life is full of wonders Robert - Original Message - From: Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) erm... I wrote a function in one of my products that contained something like: delattr(Control_Panel_Reference, '_objects') Dirty but it seems to work :) It allows the class attribute to show through and there have been no obvious ill effects. Adrian... -- The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain. - Sun Tzu - Original Message - From: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) and how did you delete _objects from the control panel ?? Robert - Original Message - From: Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) I suspect this is a bug. I thinmk it is due to upgrading your data.fs from an earlier version of Zope. At some point in time Control_Panel has been created as a object in data.fs, and this object has an _objects tuple that contains the objects from 2.2 or more likely 2.3... I have this at work, where the same data.fs has been upgraded from 2.1.x to 2.4 and I had to manually remove the Control_Panel instance's _objects tuple, then everything worked fine. I do not see this at home where I have a fresh 2.4.1 install. Adrian... -- The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain. - Sun Tzu - Original Message - From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) Dieter Maurer writes: Robert Rottermann writes: I do not really understand this answer. Should there be such lock management?? I have not found it? Sorry, you are right. I was convinced, I saw it there. But when I checked after receiving your reply, I did not find it either. Maybe wishful thinking I rechecked (do not like to be wrong...): There should be a DavLocks entry in the Control_Panel between Versions and Products. I am now sure, I have seen it. It is still in the code App.ApplicationManager.ApplicationManager._objects but objectItems now longer finds it and therefore, it is no longer shown in the control panel. I do not (yet) understand why You can use it anyway: http://your zope/Control_Panel/DavLocks/manage I will report, when I found out why it is no longer shown. Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ????)
and how did you delete _objects from the control panel ?? Robert - Original Message - From: Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) I suspect this is a bug. I thinmk it is due to upgrading your data.fs from an earlier version of Zope. At some point in time Control_Panel has been created as a object in data.fs, and this object has an _objects tuple that contains the objects from 2.2 or more likely 2.3... I have this at work, where the same data.fs has been upgraded from 2.1.x to 2.4 and I had to manually remove the Control_Panel instance's _objects tuple, then everything worked fine. I do not see this at home where I have a fresh 2.4.1 install. Adrian... -- The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain. - Sun Tzu - Original Message - From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] WebDAVLocks lost in Control_Panel (was:: [ZPT] how to unlock a webdav locked element ) Dieter Maurer writes: Robert Rottermann writes: I do not really understand this answer. Should there be such lock management?? I have not found it? Sorry, you are right. I was convinced, I saw it there. But when I checked after receiving your reply, I did not find it either. Maybe wishful thinking I rechecked (do not like to be wrong...): There should be a DavLocks entry in the Control_Panel between Versions and Products. I am now sure, I have seen it. It is still in the code App.ApplicationManager.ApplicationManager._objects but objectItems now longer finds it and therefore, it is no longer shown in the control panel. I do not (yet) understand why You can use it anyway: http://your zope/Control_Panel/DavLocks/manage I will report, when I found out why it is no longer shown. Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE
I had this once (the slowing down) when an other process was eating up all memory and zope was constantly paged out. Robert - Original Message - From: Andre Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE Hi all, i have serious problems with my zope. Last time he dies very often with error code 13,and since to today he slows down extremly. To view the Control_Panel/DebugForm it takes up to 1 minute and thats not acceptable. How can i track down these problems. I run Zope-2.2.4 on Immunix-RedHat 6.2 thanks a lot as ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how great WebDAV is ;-)
Hi Brian, that proposal sounds very good to me. Could it be enhanced in a way that we can add an add automatic extension when served by webdav. What I mean by that is that an object without extension is seen as having say .html appended to it when it is access by webdav. So we can use all these extension based web authoring tools without changing the python way of doing things. Robert - Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how great WebDAV is ;-) Some additional issues when using the CMF: - There is this really great idea that you can create a news item by just posting a MyNews.news file to your Member folder. The first problem is that Word does not let you save an HTML file as .news, so we changed the rules in CMF and upload news_MyNews.htm files FYI - I have a proposal that could also be used to address this. It would be great to get some feedback on it: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ObjectTypeAssociationAndDeathToI ndexHtml Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how greatWebDAV is ;-)
- Original Message - From: Dan L. Pierson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how greatWebDAV is ;-) I agree that Brian's proposal is a good idea. --On Friday, September 21, 2001 08:46:42 AM +0200 Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brian, that proposal sounds very good to me. Could it be enhanced in a way that we can add an add automatic extension when served by webdav. What I mean by that is that an object without extension is seen as having say .html appended to it when it is access by webdav. So we can use all these extension based web authoring tools without changing the python way of doing things. This wouldn't work very well for two reasons: 1. Sites like ours use a mix of DTML, Python Scripts and other things. It would make some sense to map the DTML method register_user to register_user.html but the Python Script would want to be register_user.py. Since a show yourself as .html should be configurable on a per folder or per dtml-method/document instance base python scripts would never be bothered. In fact I think only ZPTemplates will ever need such a mapping. ZPT is such much nicer than DTML that soon no new sites will be done not using it. Templates alredy have a half hearted such mapping (as explained in the tutorial which is reachable from the Zope home page). It just does not seam to work for non *nix computers. Robert 2. The object on a Zope site already contain type information that can and should be leveraged for outgoing access. My first cut suggestion would be to implement a separate outgoing mapping table driven by the object's meta-type attribute (with provision for CMF to override this to use it's different notion of type). Robert - Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how great WebDAV is ;-) Some additional issues when using the CMF: - There is this really great idea that you can create a news item by just posting a MyNews.news file to your Member folder. The first problem is that Word does not let you save an HTML file as .news, so we changed the rules in CMF and upload news_MyNews.htm files FYI - I have a proposal that could also be used to address this. It would be great to get some feedback on it: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ObjectTypeAssociationAndDeath ToI ndexHtml Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZCVSFolder not running on windows
Hi there, I installed the newest version of ZCVSMFolder on my windowsbox. As it uses fork it can not work. However I used a former version under windows. Is this not possible anymore? thanks for any insigth Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Speed up the learning curve
Wrong Andy, writing Python products is far easier than guessing how to pass a variable to a DTML-method or other such DTML-Voodoo Robert - Original Message - From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rene Pijlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Speed up the learning curve It varies depending upon the version, I seem to remember old versions didnt do that. Mind you if you are writing Python products you are pretty far up the learning curve :) -- Andy McKay - Original Message - From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rene Pijlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Speed up the learning curve Rene Pijlman writes: A suggestion to cut the Zope learning curve down by half a day... When the programmer forgets the docstring in a method of a Python-based product, instead of saying Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Zope could say: Sorry, this method has no docstring. Doesn't it do precisely this when you run Zope in debug mode? Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] REQUEST contains wrong list.index ???
Good morning,I came accross something I do not understand:In a form I have list. The list items are set with an option value the sequence-indexlike so: dtml-in getSubprojects dtml-let curElem=sequence-item OPTION value=dtml-var "curElem['Code']" dtml-var "curElem['Name']" /OPTION /dtml-let /dtml-in Now my question:In the forms action I ask for the selected item in a python scriptlike so: listVal = 0 try: listVal = _['listProject'] except: passTo my puzlement listVal contains the index of the selected item, notit's option value which I would like to gather.Where is my error?Thanks for your answersRobert
[Zope-dev] how can I fill to frames in on dtml-call ??
Hi there,
I would like to fill two frames as a response to a user action.
How can I do that?
The situation is as follows:
I have two database tables having a master-detail relationship.
In a list I display records from the master table .
When the user clicks on one of the entry I would like to fill
a frame with some fileds of the record, an in a second frame
a list with detailrecords.
So how can I fill two frames as a response to a submit.
Or is there a way that I can tell a python or dtml-method to send its
output to a given target?
I tried something like this:
dtml-var masterForm
dtml-call RESPONSE.setHeader('Window-target',URL1+'/top_right_frm')
dtml-var listdetails
but this writes everything into the same frame.
thanks for your time
Robert
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Re: [Zope-dev] I am looking for a DragDrop target.
Thanks for your tip. This is where I am heading. Just there may be something embeded in python. Robert I'm just speculating, because I've never done this, but I do remember that Javascript has a event handler named "onDragDrop". Perhaps you could use that to fill in the name of the file object. -- Loren ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Confused by accuisition, need help
Hi there, I need the help with the following situation: I have a folder test with the following structure 1 Test a index_html some frames to structure the display a zman (a product I am about to develop) a data b projects c data acesses database c display displayes the data b documents c data acesses database c display displayes the data (I hope you can still see the structure) Now to display the records I use the following dtml-method(in the disply method): dtml-in expr="PARENTS[0].data()" OPTION selected value="dtml-var sequence-index" dtml-var sequence-item /OPTION /dtml-in This works fine if I am in projects od dicuments Now my problem: in index_html I only would like to splice the various parts togezher. Like so: some glue dtml-var expr="PARENTS[0].data.projects.show()" dtml-var expr="PARENTS[0].data.documents.show()" /some glue Unfortunatelly I get an erro in the display-methodr: Error Value: PARENTS (Object: PARENTS[0].data()) Obviously when called like this, the method knows nothing of its anchestry. How kan I call methods that are in a "lower" folder, and have them know theyr environment? Thanks for your help. Robert
