Justizin wrote:
I agree with the concerns about hosting in an individual personal
account, although we are doing no better at ZoneEdit right now with
JRyan36 or whatever the heck I am called.
Yeah, but we can register a "zopeorg" user at zoneedit which we can give
login details to any relevant
Thanks to both of you.
On 9/27/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we*
volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a
nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have
On 9/27/06, tweeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 10:37 am, Justizin wrote:
> Tom - do you know if Rackspace's nameservers are capable of serving up
> a slave copy of a zone which is managed at ZoneEdit.com?
We don't do that any longer on our main geo-load balanced ns
I'm taking this offline with Chris.
I agree with the concerns about hosting in an individual personal
account, although we are doing no better at ZoneEdit right now with
JRyan36 or whatever the heck I am called.
On 9/27/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/27/06 11:57 AM, "Chri
On 9/27/06 12:10 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Justizin wrote:
>>
>
> When I left, I believe NS and NS2 were both load balanced clusters of
> three large machines, which probably sit behind PrevenTier, a patented
> DoS-ave
On 9/27/06 11:57 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Justizin wrote:
>> Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think
>> that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by
>> software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and
On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Justizin wrote:
> Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think
> that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by
> software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and
> look like ns.ra
Justizin wrote:
Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think
that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by
software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and
look like ns.rackspace.com. ;)
Yep, so you're responsible for that crappy
On 9/27/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 17:01, Justizin wrote:
> Will they slave a zone these days? ;)
>
> On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>> > If DNS is a bottleneck I v
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 17:01, Justizin wrote:
Will they slave a zone these days? ;)
On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> If DNS is a bottleneck I volunteer to host the zope.org zone on my
> colocated servers (ns
Will they slave a zone these days? ;)
On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> If DNS is a bottleneck I volunteer to host the zope.org zone on my
> colocated servers (ns1.dataflake.org as primary, ns1.zetwork.com as
> secondary). The data center they are in (i
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ndrew Sawyers wrote:
> You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we*
> volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a
> nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have
> thei
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
You didn't cc tres
Yeah, I know, but since Jens shouted at me shortly afterwards, I didn't
think I'd rectify the situation ;-)
Chris
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Justizin wrote:
[snip]
Perhaps we should follow whatever process is set out for managing ZF
content as ReST.
Process right now is pretty simple. The rest content is sitting here:
svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/web/zf/trunk
we can put other things under /web/.
Is there a place where Zope3 doc
You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we*
volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a
nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have
their domains setup).
A
On 9/27/06 3:52 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Justizin wrote:
> Whoever you decide to nag, I think the three of us can hammer this out.
Excellent. By the way, are you a Zope Foundation member in any way? I'm
not sure whether it matters at this stage, just checking.
Nope. Is there an organizational membership option? ;)
I'm not sure, d
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 09:52, Chris Withers wrote:
Justizin wrote:
I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest.
I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org.
I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ?
caba
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 02:00, Justizin wrote:
Okay.
ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into
their database.
Who wants to run a slave?
ns1.dataflake.org
I need to know the master IP to set it up.
jens
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Justizin wrote:
I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest.
I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org.
I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ?
cabana.palladion.com 69.44.155.17
That'll be Tres (cc'ed in 'cos I don't know if he's on this
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
If DNS is a bottleneck I volunteer to host the zope.org zone on my
colocated servers (ns1.dataflake.org as primary, ns1.zetwork.com as
secondary). The data center they are in (in Richmond/VA) has redundant
internet connectivity and a sterling uptime record for their networ
I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest.
I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org.
I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ?
cabana.palladion.com 69.44.155.17
ns1.dataflake.org 8.7.96.28
On 9/26/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If ya'll think 2's enough and your handling it; no worries. If we want
another, I can do it also.
Cheers,
A
On 9/26/06 8:00 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay.
>
> ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their
> database.
>
> Who wants to run a slave?
>
Okay.
ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their database.
Who wants to run a slave?
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Justizin wrote:
> On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for eit
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Martijn shared with me the great news - DNS
volunteers! :^) Fantastic news!!
Attached is the zone fil
> Whoever you decide to nag, I think the three of us can hammer this out.
Excellent. By the way, are you a Zope Foundation member in any way? I'm
not sure whether it matters at this stage, just checking.
Nope. Is there an organizational membership option? ;)
>> * A plan of action worked out
Justizin wrote:
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for either of the other guys to
be the lead. ;d
You're the only one volunteering for this right now, as far as I can
see, so if you think you and Jens can get along after this
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:51, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not. I'm arguing against the higher number of secondaries that
you suggested earlier. Two secondaries is enough.
I'm guessing that's fine
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not. I'm arguing against the higher number of secondaries that
you suggested earlier. Two secondaries is enough.
I'm guessing that's fine too. I haven't had any problems for four
years, as mentioned, and i don't have secondaries, cuz I'm
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:20, Justizin wrote:
(a) ZoneEdit probably has more zones than Rackspace, which is
classified in Texas as a Small Business. ZoneEdit is well known
enough that a handful of people on this small mailing list know of it.
People do
I second the motion.
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:17, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify?
This is about propagating data from the primary DNS
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:17, Lennart Regebro wrote:
I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify?
This is about propagating data from the primary DNS server (which
would be that service Andrew suggested) to the databases hel
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:00, Justizin wrote:
>> Do you know how DNS works? Slaves don't just ask for a transfer
>> willy-
>> nilly. Slaves are known to the primary and they get told when to ask.
>>
I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify?
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:00, Justizin wrote:
Do you know how DNS works? Slaves don't just ask for a transfer
willy-
nilly. Slaves are known to the primary and they get told when to ask.
I'm not sure this is correct. We should investigate before i
Okay. We will need:
* A copy of the existing zope.org zone files
* Cooperation from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change the NS record pointers
* A list of people who need access in ZoneEdit
I have a fresh ZoneEdit account open with five free zones, and I can
directly import an entire BIND Zone
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote:
> Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my
> concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to
> provide your
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote:
Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my
concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to
provide your own local servers. How do you get a copy of the latest
zone
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Andrew, learn bottom-posting please!
I haven't worked with zoneedit, but would volunteer a secondary DNS
setup on one of my boxes.
ZoneEdit has a very ugly site, but technically I haven't had one
single problem with them during four yea
We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have a bunch
of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who could do secondary dns
for this. I've used zoneedit for several years now - flawlessly. First 5
domains are free - so that shouldn't be a problem.
Andrew
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On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 14:40, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> We're currently investigating mechanisms by which we (as the
> community) can manage the nameserver for zope.org - a requirement
> to bring name
>
> Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be
> hooked up as a secondary.
>
> jens
>
>
As do I .
Andrew
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:21, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
DNS changes should be very tightly regulated and the group of people
who can make them should be very small since DNS is a very important
wheel in the machinery which can break all other services if no
This has nothing to do with a newbie friendly tool - but a third party to be
the primary, so that a single person isn't the 'owner' of this - so those
with appropriate access can manage this. I'm sure all of us on the list
understand the importance of DNS and it's reliability. Since it's free an
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 16:56, Justizin wrote:
One reason I like the idea of the ACM hosting this zone is that we are
probably going to stick around, so Zope.org won't be likely to fall by
the wayside.
Umh, thanks for implying that others (like me) won
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 14:40, Martijn Faassen wrote:
We're currently investigating mechanisms by which we (as the
community) can manage the nameserver for zope.org - a requirement
to bring namespaces.zope.org into being. We're also trying to
figure
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Justizin wrote:
> So..
>
> I was talking to Philipp the other day on IRC, wondering why
>
>http://namespaces.zope.org/zope
>
> Doesn't actually exist on on the intarweb. At first I wondered if it
> was a requirement, like for a DTD, and
On 9/26/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be
> hooked up as a secondary.
>
> jens
>
>
As do I .
Andrew
I could slave as well.
I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries,
depending
On 9/26/06 11:10 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
>
>> We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have
>> a bunch
>> of secondaries.I'm sure there's
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have
a bunch
of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who could do
secondary dns
for this. I've used zoneedit for several years
Justizin wrote:
So..
I was talking to Philipp the other day on IRC, wondering why
http://namespaces.zope.org/zope
Doesn't actually exist on on the intarweb. At first I wondered if it
was a requirement, like for a DTD, and P says no, so I believe him.
We did agree that it would be nice if s
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
>> Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be
>> hooked up as a secondary.
> As do I .
All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a loss
on how to proceed, as I'm not very
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries,
> depending on their size.
>
> Should be no problem for an 'NS' query for zope.org to point at ten or
> more hosts which ru
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On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:39, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be
hooked up as a secondary.
As do I .
All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a
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I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries,
depending on their size.
Should be no problem for an 'NS' query for zope.org to point at ten or
more hosts which run slave.
The question is, does this tool allow that? I imagin
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be
hooked up as a secondary.
As do I .
All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a loss
on how to proceed, as I'm not very familiar with DNS issues.
So, what I need:
* a single c
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