On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Ivar Janmaat wrote:

William Yang schreef:

Steve's quote for $73/$431 doesn't come out to 8% or less. Maybe the $73 is
actually for the software?


This is the information from one of my latest quotes:
Sun Ray VDI RTU: 118,40 Euro List price ( In special cases you can get up to 30 to 40 discount on this)
Sun Ray VDI support 1 year: 26,05 Euro list price (22% of RTU)
Solaris Premium support for the server 1 year: 144,00 Euro (was more than 1000 Euro's with Sun Premium support)

Since the hardware/software support of 8% on the sun ray was not available at that time I don't have a quote for that. I am also not sure if the 26.05 for VDI support will stay 26,05 Euro if you get a discount on the RTU or if it than will become 22% of the discounted price.
In all the confusion I settled for 26.05 Euro.
You don't have to pay for support with NComputing.
Well, than you probably have no support when something is not working.
There is no 24x7 free support.

The problem is that the hardware support agreement is not optional.

Brad Lackey said it is from now on required if we want our DTUs to have a legal right to download the firmware from the SRSS.

Brad Lackey wrote:
There is a Systems support requirement on the hardware. This
entitles you to firmware updates. Even though the firmware is
delivered by the SRSS, this support is required.

* So first we buy the DTU
* Then we buy the SRSS, priced per DTU (and if there's a new server, we
  buy again)
* Then we also add on the new, enforced license, a hardware systems
  support for each DTU because otherwise they are not allowed to download
  the firmware from the Server which we already paid for, per DTU.

I've been trying hard to find an anlogy for this so others will understand, but I can't find any, because this licensing model is so wicked.

We've seen "per user/per device" licenses before. Like Windows Server TS where you need a CAL for each connection to the TS. But this, I can't get my head around it.


 -- Alexander

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