S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Barbara Duprey wrote:
Or Gmane could strip the trailer. Or Gmane could retrieve posts from
the archives, and then strip the trailer.
The archived posting has no trailer either; this is typical for ezmlm
mailing list manager. So getting from archive is possible, and no
stripping needed. However, with ezmlm, it is also easy to add an
adapter, since all the mailing list processing steps are in .qmail
"script" files.
The issue is that sometimes those of us receiving mail in the normal
way do not see it on some posts we receive from some accounts. I've
noticed this primarily with gmail, and sometimes with AOL, but it is
not at all consistent.
Ah, I understand. This has nothing to do with Gmane, though. I think I
can explain it for Gmail. Gmail will show e-mails in a thread in a
thread view, so when there is a discussions in a mailing list the
person subscribe, the e-mails will show up in Gmail in thread view.
In thread view, by default a response e-mail will have some text
quoted from the replied e-mail hidden or more accurately reduce to a
text button: "- Show quoted text -". If you click it, the hidden quote
will show up. Not all quotes will be hidden, apparently only top /
inline quotes which is too long (not sure the limit), and bottom
quotes (which has no response - apparently to accomodate top poster).
To determine which text is quote, seemingly Gmail did not rely on text
formatting (which prone to error), but using text comparison (some
kind of diff after removing quote signs), so lines in a response
e-mail contains texts also exist in replied e-mails will be considered
a quote.
Now take a look at the trailer: it is exists in every e-mail, so in
any response e-mail it will be considered a quote. It is at the
bottom, so it will be hidden behind "- Show quoted text -".
So the unsubscribe trailer is in the e-mail, just may need to click "-
Show quoted text -" at the bottom of the e-mail.
I use Thunderbird (threaded) and have never had any difficulties with
quoted text. If the trailer follows a standard signature, it may be
gray, but it's there. Most of the time, that is. And I'm talking about
the direct message, not the quoted part picked up from the message being
responded to, so I really don't see how this could be the problem.
Thanks for trying, though!
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