Edgar and Margie, I am fine at this moment, not really suffering a lot. Meanwhile I am scared by stories of suffering. If you think the best way is not to think about suffering, just 'think' about the present, I can say nothing more. Edgar, with your scientific approach, please read carefully the nderf, then tell me they are all bullshiting. Regards, Anthony
--- On Thu, 9/10/08, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and Zen To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 9 October, 2008, 7:37 PM Anthony and Margie, Anthony, would it help if you knew that the great all loving all powerful mother of the universe has you in her arms loving you at every moment including right now? She does..... It's called being alive in her arms.... You just simply need to experience it..... And make that the essence of your experience in every moment.... :-) Edgar On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:27 PM, roloro1557 wrote: Hello Anthony- I think you are hurting yourself unnecessarily with this line of thought Anthony. I'm sorry for that, I don't like to see people suffer. Again, a look into history will show you that there is NOTHING that can ensure peace. Lots and lots of things have been tried through the ages and peace has never come. It is very ironic, people are willing to go to war, to kill and be killed over whose "morality" is the "right" one. It's a hard pill to swallow, I know, but the plain truth is that peace isn't the nature of most human beings. Or most human beings cannot see their buddha-nature. The only thing left is to create a peaceful place within yourself. There are many ways to do that, zazen, other forms of meditation, certain therapies, etc. I don't think anyone can find peace in the world without finding it within themselves first. Margie (roloro1557) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Anthony Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Margie, > > Then change my term from morality to peaceality or whatever that can ensure peace. I am also opposed to manmade standards of morality, which, like you say lead to endless arguments and struggles. > > In order to maintain peace, you need something to go by. I have trouble accepting 'just it'. Or Buddha nature, which not everybody follows. You can say everybody has Buddha nature, but when it comes to performance, the opposite is frequently true. > > Regards, > Anthony New Email addresses available on Yahoo! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/