Bill, 'First enlightenment, then help others' is Theravada philosophy. It is to some extent in conflict with mahayana's 'first save all beings, then enlightenment (nirvana)'. As you agree, the latter is unfeasible in this world. I can only explain it in terms of intention. Anthony
--- On Fri, 26/11/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 26 November, 2010, 6:22 PM ED, I believe Mahayana Buddhism teaches that you should not enter Nirvana nor break yourself off of the Wheel-of-Life (the continuous cycle of birth and rebirth) until all sentient beings are released from suffering. This is not the same as saying your should help others before helping yourself. Just like the oxygen mask example, you do have to get yourself in a position to help others before trying to help. I can’t give you a source but one quote I remember from somewhere is: ‘First attain enlightenment. Then instruct all beings.’ …Bill! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 4:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book ED, You say: Of what use is a dead bodhisattva to anyone? My suggestion: fly to Dharamsala and ask Dalai Lama. (It is an essential mahayana teaching that you should help others before helping yourself.) Anthony --- On Thu, 25/11/10, ED <[email protected]> wrote: From: ED <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 9:46 PM Of what use is a dead bodhisattva to anyone? A mother who really cares for her child will put on her own oxygen mask first. On the other hand, "The life of an enlightened being is like the shadow of a bird on water." --ED --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > You got it wrong. Bodhisatvas advise you put the oxygen mask on other people > before you have it on yourself. > > You have not answer whether you don't think preventing turmoil is necessary. > > Anthony __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5649 (20101125) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5650 (20101126) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
