RE: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread Bob W
it's always Friday somewhere.

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 Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD
 
 Isn't it Friday in Europe yet?
 
 On Nov 15, 2007 7:49 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.
 
  Bob Blakely wrote:
   It's not Friday.
  


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Re: Good reflections needed, help please!

2007-11-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/11/07, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed:

Any suggestions?

Black perspex.

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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread Cotty


 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
 He spoke too soon...

 meh, whatever turns your crank

 This stems from total depravity.
   
I think it's time we shifted gears here.

Before things come completely derailed.

Okay, now I'm feeling pressure.

Quite understandable, given the chain of events.

Pedalling your platitudes again.




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Re: King Albert II on the dark side

2007-11-16 Thread John Celio
 On the ocassion of the annual King's Day, Canon and Nikon Belgium have
 both been appointed as official suppliers to the Belgian royal court.

To quote the great Zaphod Beeblebrox:

Oh Belgium, man, Belgium!

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Cotty, I must bring your attention to the mere fact that human body 
consist of more than just the ass.

Now both me *and* Julia are laffin'.

Boris

Cotty wrote:
 On 15/11/07, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 (To speed the process, you can use your body heat to get it warm.)
 
 Bob's being polite. Just shove it up yer ass.
 


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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks, Paul.  In the past I probably would have missed this as well.  I've 
been taking note of the 'looking down' images that have been posted here 
lately.



Cheers

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Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Good catch. Most would have missed this. Nicely rendered.
 Paul
 On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
  G'day all
 
  I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea'
 exhibition  
  on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th year, which 
 
  features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk between  
  Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.
 
  I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post
 this  
  for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures
 more  
  interesting than the sculpture itself.
 
  http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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RE: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

2007-11-16 Thread Tom C


I'VE CONTACTED YOU BEFORE ABOUT PENTAX CAMERAS. I SEE YOU USE THE K10D
THATS WHAT I PURCHASED HOW DO YOU LIKE IT AND DO USE FILTERS ON YOUR
LENSES. I HEARD THE FILTERS LET LESS LITE IN AND DETRACTS FROM THE
IMAGE THANKS I REALLY ENJOY YOUR WEB SITE


I've written you before about the K10D and how to use filters.  Do you mean to 
tell me you didn’t receive it? I'm sorry.

One of the advantages to DSLR's is that instead of purchasing multiple filters 
in varying sizes for different lenses, an expensive proposition, a filter 
medium can be applied directly to the sensor in the camera before attaching the 
lens.  Simply purchase rolls of translucent tape in whatever color or tint you 
wish, cut, and apply to the sensor.  One of my favorite tricks is to apply 
Vaseline directly to the sensor as it produces an oil-painting effect, instant 
art!  It's easily removed with hydrogen peroxide or rubbing alcohol.

Tom C. (it strikes me that the person writing may simply be quite young).




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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Boris

See my reply to Dave...

:-)


Seriously, thanks for looking.



Cheers

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Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ditto!!!
 
 Boris
 
 David Savage wrote:
  Works for me.
  
  Well seen.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Dave

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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use DNG, mainly because I use ACR/ PSCS 1 as my RAW converter, and  
it's not compatible with K10D PEF.  If I switch to Lightroom, which  
Godders input has tempted me to do, I would probably shoot PEF.
Paul
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:

 Hi,

 Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?

 Antti-Pekka

 

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Re: Pentax K10D sequence capture speed test

2007-11-16 Thread John Celio
 RAW Only - PEF - 9 frames to buffer full - 59 captures total - flush
 9 sec
 RAW Only - DNG - 11 frames to buffer full - 52 captures total - flush
 13 sec


Interesting!  So it captures a couple more DNGs in a burst, but then the DNG 
processing slows it down more than PEF processing, resulting in fewer images 
taken in one minute.

This could be useful for those times I want to shoot a couple more frames at 
once.  It's a rare occasion, but this info is good to know anyway.  Thanks 
for the report, Godfrey.

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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Patrick Genovese
I shoot pef coz i fit more shots on a card but conv to dng and retain
dng files... Also note that the K10D is slightly faster when saving
DNG files as opposed to PEFs so you get a slightly faster frame rate
with DNG... especially if you shoot long bursts and fill the buffer.

Regards

Patrick


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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Thibouille
PEF, it takes less space on the card.
That said I import everything in LR and converts them to DNG.

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread .timbercode
I have no first-hand experience with the lens in topic, but so far my 
experience with mirror lens is they are mostly soft. Of course there are 
differences, for example the f5.6/500 Rubinar is almost sharp (well 
let's say it's sharp as the Canon kit lenses :D) and f8/500 Phoenix is 
nowhere near to any kind of sharpness.

If you want to see a shot made with K10D and Sigma f8/600 then take a 
look at here:
http://somaa.fpn.hu/4257.pef

I think if it's for web ... it could be usefull, easy to carry solution 
for the budget. But if you need quality for larger prints ... forget it.

Sincerelly,
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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Crovella
PEF to fit more on the card and convert to compressed DNG automagically 
while importing to the computer.

Cheers,
Paul

Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?
 
 Antti-Pekka
 
 
 
 Antti-Pekka Virjonen
 
 Computec Oy
 RD Turku
 
 www.computec.fi 
 
 
 

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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
While the concept is pretty cool, there are too many of them - it
makes it feel rather jumbled instead.  Cleaner and simpler would be
better to me.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007, 4:06:37 AM, you wrote:

BW G'day all

BW I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea'
BW exhibition on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th
BW year, which features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk
BW between Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.

BW I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd
BW post this for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the
BW sculptures more interesting than the sculpture itself.

BW http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html



BW Cheers

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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Blakely
I'm already on serious meds for my hip. This is as mellow as I get. Thank 
your God that I'm not drug free and at full asshole capacity.

Regards,
Bob...
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Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.

 Bob Blakely wrote:
 It's not Friday.

 From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
 I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
 outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
 ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
 anyone's interested.


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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Bruce,

Yes, I see what you mean but I quite like the jumbled scribbes.  I suppose I 
could dig out the cloning tool..

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers

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Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 While the concept is pretty cool, there are too many of them - it
 makes it feel rather jumbled instead.  Cleaner and simpler would
 be
 better to me.
 
 -- 
 Bruce
 
 
 Thursday, November 15, 2007, 4:06:37 AM, you wrote:
 
 BW G'day all
 
 BW I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea'
 BW exhibition on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its
 11th
 BW year, which features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal
 walk
 BW between Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.
 
 BW I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd
 BW post this for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the
 BW sculptures more interesting than the sculpture itself.
 
 BW http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
 
 
 
 BW Cheers
 
 BW Brian
 


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Re: Good reflections needed, help please!

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brendan MacRae
Subject: Good reflections needed, help please!


 Does anyone do product shots on dark (black)
 reflective material that produces good, even
 reflections?

 I'm currently stumped working on a shoot for a local
 company. I have to shoot some video components on
 black (easy enough) but I'd like some good natural
 reflection from the surface they rest on.

 I've already tried tempered glass over black cloth
 (velour) but the reflections double up and look
 god-awful. There's a PS trick for reflections but it's
 simply too much work for anything but straight on
 views. All of my shots are oblique angles.

 This guy had a really good idea:

 http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/on-assignment-shoot-your-shiny-new.html

 But, there's no way I'm going to find a piece of
 granite as big as I need it (30 x 48 roughly) and it
 would be way too expensive in any event.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks ahead of time.



I'd try using a mirror and a polarizing filter.
Position a black piece of velvet in such a way that the camera catches a 
reflection of it in the mirror, and use the polarizing filter to remove the 
reflection from the top surface of the glass.

William Robb 


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Re: PESO -- Final Glory

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I started to clone out the wires originally.  I then decided to show 
what I had.  I may go back to the cloning but I've been feeling 
especially lazy this week.

Ken Waller wrote:
 Mostly what Paul said.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO -- Final Glory


   
 Beautiful color, nice scene. You might have placed the burning bush more 
 to the right. You could still do that with a crop. That would also get rid 
 of that square thing next to the road. You might also clone out the 
 telephone wires. That would greatly improve the shot. It's a fairly easy 
 job since they're so thin, and you have indefinite shapes to with which to 
 work.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The peak colors around here were over a couple of weekends ago, but it
 was raining so no good photos.  Some species haven't even started, I
 guess you wouldn't want to overload something.  I hope this is at least
 interesting in it's banality.  (The tree is a burning bush I believe).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20finalglory.html

 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar vmc 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (version 3)

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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, there's a remote assistant. You need 1.2 firmware or later. I've  
used it. It's great compared to the old D version. Mainly because the  
write speed is so much faster. I use it when I shoot with an art  
director. Keeps them entertained :-). My studio is directly adjacent  
to my desktop cp,[iter, so I can cable USB from a powered hub to the  
camera and display it on my 21 monitor.
Paul
On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:16 PM, William Robb wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: David Savage
 Subject: Re: A question about chimping




 How about shooting tethered to your laptop  review that way?


 I don't have the Remote Assistant for the K10 (is there such a beast)
 operational, and I believe I would need to upgrade the firmware and  
 give up
 the ability to play with the AF offset.

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/11/07, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

(To speed the process, you can use your body heat to get it warm.)

Bob's being polite. Just shove it up yer ass.

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a Sigma Ultra Tel, I've seen one for sale on e-Bay a few years 
ago.  It went for a lot of money.  They are relatively rare, probably 
fewer were made than the Vivitar Series 1 450mm solid cat, there were 
only 800 of those made.  They have a reputation of being very, very, 
very good.


Thibouille wrote:
 500f/4 mirror ? I'd be heaviliy suprised of a F/4 mirror lens.
 Those are usually 500/600mm f/8 or 300/350mm f/5.6.

 On Nov 15, 2007 1:54 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I do have a Simga 500mm F.4.0 mirror lens, which is sort of heavy and I do 
 like it.
 Here is a link to to a photo of it on my photo.net page.There are three 
 photos of it on that pageJoe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5771640



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 I think mirror lens have the realyl advantages (well more or less) of being:

 * portable (but a bit too much, they are too lightweight for the focal
 length IMO and as such difficult to stabilize). In the end you still
 need a tripod which kinda negates the argument.

 * cheap. and I think this is the major point why people buy those. I
 have one although I didn't pay for it (long term loan ;) I'm sometimes
 very happy having it. I know I will *never* be able to pay for
 proper 500mm lens. so I'm happy with my Tamron.

 True the bokeh is indeed very problematic. But as a chgeap astro lens
 like moonshots (at least for a newbie like me) I think it is a very
 acceptable solution... not without obvious drawbacks.

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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Tom C wrote:

 It seems to me the term is now used often in a euphemistic derogatory
 sense that implies one must not be a good photographer if they need to
 look at their image to check it.  [...]

While I generally agree with what you're saying, Tom, I find it quite 
scary, and more than a little humorous, that some folks will chimp 
while in the hot areas of a race track, not paying any more attention to 
what's going on around them than Hogan's Goat.

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Re: WTB: M42 to K-mount adapter

2007-11-16 Thread Jim King
Stan Halpin wrote on Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:42 -0800

 Anybody have one of these they are willing to part with?
 I sold my last one a couple of years ago thinking I would never need
 it, but am thinking of some experimentation...



Stan,

I don't have one to sell you right now, but seller roxsen on eBay  
(located in Hong Kong) has several for sale right now.  Note that his  
are not the genuine Pentax-made units, but they are a lot cheaper and  
do permit infinity focus.

Beware the many adapters on the 'Bay which have a large flange - they  
do *not* permit infinity focus, as the flange does not fit within the  
lensmount opening but sits outside it.

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:44, Thibouille wrote:

 500f/4 mirror ? I'd be heaviliy suprised of a F/4 mirror lens.
 Those are usually 500/600mm f/8 or 300/350mm f/5.6.


Did you look at the photo he linked to?  Says 1:4 f=500mm right on the  
front of it.

And there is a big handle on the top too, for carrying it.

 On Nov 15, 2007 1:54 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I do have a Simga 500mm F.4.0 mirror lens, which is sort of heavy  
 and I do like it.
 Here is a link to to a photo of it on my photo.net page.There are  
 three photos of it on that pageJoe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5771640


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Re: New 2007 Voigtlander SL-II Lenses

2007-11-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 16.11.2007, at 03:17 , Beaker wrote:

 FYI-

 Stephen Gandy at CameraQuest has the new 2007 Voigtlander SL-II
 Pentax KA mount lenses up on his site.
 http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm

 They are the 40 mm f2 aspherical pancake  the 58 mm f1.4 Nokton
 manual focus lenses.

 He has a nice write up of the lenses.
Nice lenses, but for the price of 40/2 one could buy genuine Pentax  
43/1.9 Ltd better at least because it has AF ;-) Guess which one of  
then most of us would choose? ;-)

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RE: King Albert II on the dark side

2007-11-16 Thread Henk Terhell
Everything is in twofold in Belgium, even the royal camera suppliers.

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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Marnie

Thanks.  I was shooting the sculptures in the harsh, middle of the day sunlight 
so I was pleased to be able to find something that seemed to work despite the 
light.


Cheers

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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In a message dated 11/15/2007 4:07:30 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 G'day all
 
 I took  myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea' exhibition
 on 
 Monday.   This is an annual event, now in its 11th year, which
 features outdoor 
 sculptures  along a 2km coastal walk between Tamarama and Bondi, on
 Sydney's 
 eastern  beaches.
 
 I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post 
 this for 
 comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures more 
 interesting than 
 the sculpture  itself.
 
 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 Neat  shot!
 
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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks Dave



Cheers

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Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Works for me.
 
 Well seen.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 On Nov 15, 2007 9:06 PM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  G'day all
 
  I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea'
 exhibition on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th
 year, which features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk
 between Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.
 
  I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post
 this for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures
 more interesting than the sculpture itself.
 
  http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
 
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Re: PESO: Scribbles

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Jack

Thanks for the feedback.  Much appreciated.


Cheers

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Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Brian, I somehow missed this when originally posted. Seems like
 I've
 said that before. =)
 Striking, well captured image. Crop is terrific.
 
 Jack
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Good catch. Most would have missed this. Nicely rendered.
  Paul
  On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
  
   G'day all
  
   I took myself off the the annual 'Sculpture by the Sea'
 exhibition 
  
   on Monday.  This is an annual event, now in its 11th year,
 which  
   features outdoor sculptures along a 2km coastal walk between  
   Tamarama and Bondi, on Sydney's eastern beaches.
  
   I'll probably put up a small GESO shortly but thought I'd post
 this
   
   for comment. I found the shadows cast by one of the sculptures
 more
   
   interesting than the sculpture itself.
  
   http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/77689/Scribbles.html
  
  
  
   Cheers
  
   Brian
  
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Re: Signature in the ocean (PESO)

2007-11-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:47, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 This island looks like a blot or, together with the wake,
 like artist's signature:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2005-2007/IMGP4403-3c.jpg

 This photo was taken shortly before approaching JFK airport in New  
 York,
 so it must be somewhere in the vicinity of Long Island.
 It looks somewhat similar to Gardiners Island:
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/35w6cv
 but I suspect, it is Robins Island:
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/2cmbax


I go with your Robins Island suggestion.

 I wish they had better quality windows in commercial aircrafts.


I'll bet they're real nice up in the front where the cockpit is!

I've had the good fortune to occasionally get a nice non-scratch, non- 
smeary window in an airplane, but it's a relatively rare occurrence.

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Re: PESO - Face

2007-11-16 Thread pnstenquist
I don't specifically recall your first rendering, but this is very strong. I 
definitely wouldn't lighten the shadows. I love the sparkle in her eyes and the 
hint of a smile. Good work.
Paul
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 I didn't take many shots of my Mom's face, as  she was sort of a poor model. 
 Too self conscious. Also I wanted natural light  and the backgrounds in the 
 living room were distracting. But about two years  ago, after I showed some 
 hand 
 shots, someone asked for face shot.
 
 So I  briefly showed this one. Originally I lightened shadows. This time, I 
 did not. I  like this rendering better, I feel it makes for a stronger shot. 
 Wonder if  people will  agree?
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/face.htm
 
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FS: Excellent Super A body, SMC-A 24-50/4 lens

2007-11-16 Thread Joe Wilensky
I haven't eBayed them yet, but this might really be my last try here  
before putting them up ...

* Pentax Super A body. EXC+ condition. This camera feels and operates
like new. It's technically the exact same camera as the Super
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black. I will include a standard Pentax strap, along with the deluxe
European Camera of the Year 1983 strap that was available. Front
finger grip, body cap, original Pentax case (fits even with the front  
finger grip on) and instruction manual
included.

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Price: $110 including shipping/insurance in the continental U.S.


• Pentax SMC-A 24-50mm f/4 lens. KEH bargain condition, but closer to  
a real-life EX as far as I can tell; no major blemishes, dust or  
marks. More solid-feeling than some of the other A-series zooms like  
the 35-70 and more metal in the construction than the A 50/1.7 or 50/2.

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Includes Pentax front and rear caps.
$110, includes shipping/handling/insurance with USPS Priority Mail  
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Interested in both? $200 will take them together.

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread David Savage
On Nov 16, 2007 5:15 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 15/11/07, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

 (To speed the process, you can use your body heat to get it warm.)

 Bob's being polite. Just shove it up yer ass.

Poor man's endoscope?

Cheers,

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread .timbercode
Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
donuts!

For me real sharpness starts around the 2.8/80 Biometar (the kit lens 
for Pentacon Six TL). Or you can use the Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar f2.8/180 
for P6 or f3.5/135 Sonnar. I highly doubt any mirror lens will be able 
to give that kind of sharpness. And these are old lenses as well :D

I also saw pictures with the 5.6/500 Rubinar and that lens was quite 
sharp too. But I will be happy to see some pictures (RAW preferred) with 
your Tamron and K10D (or whatever camera you have). I am really curious!

.timber

William Robb wrote:
 I have a Tamron 500/8 mirror lens which is very sharp indeed, though the 
 bokeh is typical mirror lens sucky, so one wants to be careful with 
 backgrounds.

 William Robb 

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: .timbercode
Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications


I have no first-hand experience with the lens in topic, but so far my
 experience with mirror lens is they are mostly soft. Of course there are
 differences, for example the f5.6/500 Rubinar is almost sharp (well
 let's say it's sharp as the Canon kit lenses :D) and f8/500 Phoenix is
 nowhere near to any kind of sharpness.

I have a Tamron 500/8 mirror lens which is very sharp indeed, though the 
bokeh is typical mirror lens sucky, so one wants to be careful with 
backgrounds.

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors


 Mike,
 Minus 25 degrees C?  Who picked that time to vacation in Prague?  And
 I thought Europe was warm!
 Nobody goes out when it's that cold around here, unless it's to sit on
 a frozen lake and ice fish.

In Saskatchewan, -25ºC is just starting to be cold.

William Robb 


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Re: Ot: The Best of the Crop?

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Crovella
There are plenty of shots in there were he hasn't cut off anything at 
all, though he easily could have, so it's not like he's just looking to 
chop off body parts.

I don't see any indication that any of the crops produce anything other 
than a desired effect - including, occasionally, dehumanization. They're 
all effective and appear deliberate.

Cheers,
Paul

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I agree.  One gets the feeling that he crops because he can, and
 because it has become his style to do so, not because it creates a
 desired effect in a particular image.
 
 On Nov 16, 2007 10:46 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The shot with the head cropped off is unappealing and dehumanizing. Also 
 somewhat sexist. The shots where he just barely crops a toe or moves the 
 figure to the bottom of the frame are okay. That can create a kind of visual 
 tension. But after a while, it becomes a cliche.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What do you think of the way he crops the shots?

 On Nov 16, 2007 10:09 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like two of them. The shoes seen under the table and the two model beach
 shot. The rest do nothing for me. Some are soft. I guess that's 
 intentional, but
 I don't find it appealing. Maybe that's why I'm a hack and he's famous:-).
 Paul

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 The fashion photography of Guy Bourdin:

 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=9532

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 06:23:44 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Shooting in low temperature outdoors
 
 Hi there.
 
 It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going 
 to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still 
 remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back 
 and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no 
 experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
 
 Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most 
 appreciated.

Others will no dounbt have given you some advice but, particularly for Prague, 
watch out for the cathedral if you visit it.  When I first went, this massive 
building had been sitting for two weeks in minus25 degree temperatures.  The 
day before I arrived, it warmed up to about freezing.  Walking around inside 
the cathedral for an hour or so (I had to stop because I was so cold) I had the 
spectacle of condensation forming on my lenses as I walked out into the snow...


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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread John Coyle
Amita - I'd be interested if it hasn't gone already.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


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Subject: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD


I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
 I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
 outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread mike wilson
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 03:40:39 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List
 
 In a message dated 11/15/2007 6:46:37 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Steve Desjardins  wrote:
  Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man  trying to
  have sex with his bicycle.
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm
 
 
 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
 
 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?

It was his friend's bike.  He had asked the friend what he did for sexual 
satisfaction and the friend replied, I use the bike.  You can borrow it if you 
want.  Upon being caught and castigated, he turned to his friend and said You 
told me to use the bike  and his friend replied, Yes but I usually just ride 
it into town.

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mike,
Minus 25 degrees C?  Who picked that time to vacation in Prague?  And
I thought Europe was warm!
Nobody goes out when it's that cold around here, unless it's to sit on
a frozen lake and ice fish.
(Of course, mass quantities of beer are consumed as antifreeze during
these adventures...)
Regards, Bob S.

On Nov 16, 2007 4:36 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 06:23:44 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Shooting in low temperature outdoors
 
  Hi there.
 
  It turns out that I have my tickets for Prague next weekend. I am going
  to take my K10D, DA 21 and FA 43 lenses. The main issue that still
  remains to be resolved is that of taking the lenses and the camera back
  and forth between indoors (warm?!) and outdoors (cold?!). I've no
  experience with this kind of shooting whatsoever.
 
  Any hints of practical nature or rules to be observed would be most
  appreciated.

 Others will no dounbt have given you some advice but, particularly for 
 Prague, watch out for the cathedral if you visit it.  When I first went, this 
 massive building had been sitting for two weeks in minus25 degree 
 temperatures.  The day before I arrived, it warmed up to about freezing.  
 Walking around inside the cathedral for an hour or so (I had to stop because 
 I was so cold) I had the spectacle of condensation forming on my lenses as I 
 walked out into the snow...


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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
It's huge dude.

Thibouille wrote:
 No no I thought that it was a shot taken with that lens which wouldn't
 helped much IMO so I didn't (how stupid) check.
 That's the first time I see this, hence I'm indeed very surprised.

 It'd be cool to see it attached to a camera to have a better idea of
 the size of the whole thing.

   


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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

From: .timbercode 

 Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
 donuts!

Sharp is defined as having high resolution.

sharpness is really a combination of resolution and acutance.


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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Boris Liberman
I shot DNG up until I got LR. Since then I shoot PEF.

Boris

Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?
 
 Antti-Pekka
 
 
 
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Maybe it was tired


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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List



A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?

He spoke too soon...



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PESO - Face

2007-11-16 Thread Eactivist
I didn't take many shots of my Mom's face, as  she was sort of a poor model. 
Too self conscious. Also I wanted natural light  and the backgrounds in the 
living room were distracting. But about two years  ago, after I showed some 
hand 
shots, someone asked for face shot.

So I  briefly showed this one. Originally I lightened shadows. This time, I 
did not. I  like this rendering better, I feel it makes for a stronger shot. 
Wonder if  people will  agree?

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/face.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: Good reflections needed, help please!

2007-11-16 Thread Anthony Farr
When I could get it easily, I used fully exposed and developed roll
film.. sixty inch wide roll film that is.  It could be used like
any roll background either base up for a reflective surface or emusion
up for a beatiful satin surface.  Double reflections were unheard of.

Lithographic film was the blackest and had the glossiest base, but was
prone to pinholes.  Continuous tone film, while it didn't develop out
as intensely black, was more dependably flawless.

I don't know if the graphic arts industry even uses film anymore, but
it should be available for making contact printing internegatives for
platinum / palladium printing.

regards,
Anthony Farr

On 16/11/2007, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone do product shots on dark (black)
 reflective material that produces good, even
 reflections?

 I'm currently stumped working on a shoot for a local
 company. I have to shoot some video components on
 black (easy enough) but I'd like some good natural
 reflection from the surface they rest on.

 I've already tried tempered glass over black cloth
 (velour) but the reflections double up and look
 god-awful. There's a PS trick for reflections but it's
 simply too much work for anything but straight on
 views. All of my shots are oblique angles.

 This guy had a really good idea:

 http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/on-assignment-shoot-your-shiny-new.html

 But, there's no way I'm going to find a piece of
 granite as big as I need it (30 x 48 roughly) and it
 would be way too expensive in any event.

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Re: Prints

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
That's not entirely true.  Most places that have a minilab will still do 
prints.  I almost hate to admit this, but my brother and sister in law 
have probably never put the CF card from their Canon Rebel into the card 
reader on their home computer.  They take the card to a lab and pay 
someone to download the pictures, make standard 4x6 proof prints, and, 
(I hope),  burn the pictures to a CD, (though I've been afraid to ask). 

I'm so ashamed. 

Toralf Lund wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:
   
 mike wilson wrote:

   
 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mike wilson wrote:

   
 
 He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that
 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce 
 equal numbers of the same end product before you tell me that
 it is cheaper.
 
   
 It's cheaper because you don't *have* to produce *any* prints.
   
 
 There's something wrong with that logic. Once I work out what it is, 
 I'll get back to you.
 
   
 There's nothing wrong with that logic because, odd as it may seem to 
 old 20th-century farts like you and me, the print is no longer the 
 preferred medium for viewing photographs, at least for most people.
   
 
 I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their 
 family album now that they've switched to digital. In that sense, prints 
 is what they *prefer*, it just doesn't seem to occur to them that they 
 can still make them, or it's harder to get around to having them 
 produced when they're no longer a part of the standard package. Then 
 again, perhaps getting the prints from that envelope they give you at 
 the lab into an actual album was also quite hard in the past... And of 
 course, not all the prints went into the album in most cases.

 I've also been wondering what will happen after people have lost all 
 their photos because they wiped out the entire hard disk enough times, 
 or find that they have no idea where their favourite pictures are 
 located because they've switched computers so many times since they were 
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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Crovella
sharpness is a bourgeois concept

-hcb

Mark Roberts wrote:
 William Robb wrote:
 
 From: .timbercode 

 Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
 donuts!
 Sharp is defined as having high resolution.
 
 sharpness is really a combination of resolution and acutance.
 
 

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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

On 16/11/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

This time tomorrow it won't be Friday anywhere...

Friday is just a state of mind.

I keep thinking it's Tuesday.

This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
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Lightroom 1.3 update

2007-11-16 Thread Toine
Lightroom 1.3 is released. The links on the adobe site are not
working. Found this in the adobe forums

Mac
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/mac/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_mac_1_3.dmg

Windows
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/win/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_win_1_3.exe

First impression: faster and the write to XMP bug is solved!

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Re: Ot: The Best of the Crop?

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree.  One gets the feeling that he crops because he can, and
because it has become his style to do so, not because it creates a
desired effect in a particular image.

On Nov 16, 2007 10:46 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The shot with the head cropped off is unappealing and dehumanizing. Also 
 somewhat sexist. The shots where he just barely crops a toe or moves the 
 figure to the bottom of the frame are okay. That can create a kind of visual 
 tension. But after a while, it becomes a cliche.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
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  What do you think of the way he crops the shots?
 
  On Nov 16, 2007 10:09 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I like two of them. The shoes seen under the table and the two model beach
  shot. The rest do nothing for me. Some are soft. I guess that's 
  intentional, but
  I don't find it appealing. Maybe that's why I'm a hack and he's famous:-).
   Paul
  
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The fashion photography of Guy Bourdin:
   
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=9532
   
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
I'll see your drink  raise you two Vicodin. (on the mend from another new 
knee, last Monday.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Blakely
Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD


 I'm already on serious meds for my hip. This is as mellow as I get. Thank
 your God that I'm not drug free and at full asshole capacity.

I'll drink to that.

William Robb 


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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread David Savage
It's not Friday here any more.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 17, 2007 12:39 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Except when it isn't.

 Bob W wrote:
  it's always Friday somewhere.
 
  --
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Amita Guha
  Sent: 16 November 2007 00:12
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD
 
  Isn't it Friday in Europe yet?
 
  On Nov 15, 2007 7:49 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Close enough.  Take a muscle relaxer.
 
  Bob Blakely wrote:
 
  It's not Friday.

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Re: PESO 2007 - 47d, 47e - GDG

2007-11-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/15/2007 4:56:58 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Continuing to process  ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47d.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47e.htm

Comments and critique  always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

===
I like both of  these, Godfrey, but in this case I like the second, the 
building, better.  Interesting shot, not sure it's totally successful, but it 
has a 
nice emptiness  to it. And I really like the colors.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:

I went to Siberia in February once.

 Nobody goes out when it's that cold around here, unless it's to sit on
 a frozen lake and ice fish.

Siberians swim at those temperatures. (I watch)

I have a videotape made at the Ural motorcycle factory in Siberia in 
February. Most of the employees rode motorcycles to work :)
(Almost all with sidecars)



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RE: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Henk Terhell
DNG for convenience so I never get confused with PEF files produced by
my *istD.

Henk

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 Subject: K10D PEF or DNG?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?
 
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Signature in the ocean (PESO)

2007-11-16 Thread Igor Roshchin

This island looks like a blot or, together with the wake, 
like artist's signature:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2005-2007/IMGP4403-3c.jpg

This photo was taken shortly before approaching JFK airport in New York,
so it must be somewhere in the vicinity of Long Island.
It looks somewhat similar to Gardiners Island:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/35w6cv
but I suspect, it is Robins Island:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2cmbax

I wish they had better quality windows in commercial aircrafts.

Igor



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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

It's not Friday here any more.

This time tomorrow it won't be Friday anywhere...


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WTB: DA 50-200 zoom

2007-11-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi,

My friend wants to buy a Pentax DA 50-200 so, if someone wants to part with 
his/her unit, let me know ofline.

Thanks,
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Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...

2007-11-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Ken Waller wrote:
 The 300mm f4.5 FA is one of my most used lenses - I use a camera mounted L 
 bracket (from Kirk http://www.kirkphoto.com/ )to accomplish quick 
 re-orientation from portrait to landscape.

I have the F version and I also use it a lot.  Rarely from a tripod, but 
I find the tripod mount to be pretty convenient anyway, for holding the 
lens/camera combo and for hanging the lens from my belt while something 
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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread .timbercode
Could you give some samples?

.t

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 Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications


   
 Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
 donuts!
 

 Sharp is defined as having high resolution.

 William Robb

   


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Re: Lightroom 1.3 update

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Crovella
I'm pretty jazzed that this release is supposed to fix the bug where it deems 
PEF files 
over 16MB to be corrupt.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I downloaded and installed it last night. Their site is being  
 hammered ... download speed was about 10K bytes per second vs my more  
 usual 170K bytes per second. :-)
 
 
 Lots of operations seem snappier and smoother on Mac OS X v10.4.11,  
 even on the PowerBook G4. The export dialog is redesigned, easier to  
 use too. Also, a beta SDK, concentrating on the Export facilities,  
 has now been made available for the first time.
 
 I'm pretty jazzed.
 
 G
 
 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toine wrote:
 
 Lightroom 1.3 is released. The links on the adobe site are not
 working. Found this in the adobe forums

 Mac
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/mac/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_mac_1_3.dmg

 Windows
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/win/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_win_1_3.exe

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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread Ken Waller
 I don't think that checking histograms counts as chimping, though.

Could be right. I thought looking at the LCD in general, was chimping.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Subject: Re: A question about chimping


 Ken Waller wrote:

If you don't occasionally chimp for exposure settings (overall  R G
 B),
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
This is damned near the silliest thing I've ever read. 

Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Of course, there is a sidebar story on that site about a man trying to
 have sex with his bicycle.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm


 I'd like a comment from Frank.


 Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7094258.stm



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New Tmax400

2007-11-16 Thread Derby Chang

Kodak taketh, and Kodak giveth.

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/bw/tMax400.jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.17.14lc=en

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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

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From: David Savage
Subject: Re: A question about chimping




 How about shooting tethered to your laptop  review that way?


I don't have the Remote Assistant for the K10 (is there such a beast) 
operational, and I believe I would need to upgrade the firmware and give up 
the ability to play with the AF offset.

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
My Vivitar S1 600mm solid cat seems, to me at least to lack contrast, 
but is also very sharp.  This can often be easily fixed in Photoshop, 
though in certain circumstances the the donut bokeh is a bit disturbing.

Mark Roberts wrote:
 William Robb wrote:

   
 From: .timbercode 

 
 Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
 donuts!
   
 Sharp is defined as having high resolution.
 

 sharpness is really a combination of resolution and acutance.


   


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Re:PESO 2007 - 47d, 47e - GDG

2007-11-16 Thread Jay Taylor
  On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 PESO 2007 - 47d, 47e - GDG

 Continuing to process ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47d.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47e.htm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
 Godfrey


Godfrey,
I find 47d to be quite an interesting composition, especially the not  
so obvious mysterious texture of the concrete .
I'm not sure how you manage to find these sorts of gems, but they  
really are visually compelling.  I guess it come with a developing  
sense of really learning to see. Great stuff.

JayT

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Re: Lightroom 1.3 update

2007-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another detail on 1.3 is that the File-Import Photos From  
Device... menu command that broke in v1.2 is now working again. :-)

Godfrey

On Nov 16, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Hmm ... Is that what the oddball error I was getting came down to be?

 Seems all the so-called damaged PEF files I've come across are 16.3
 Mbytes, where 16.1 Mbytes were all processed with no problems.

 Very interesting.

 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Paul Crovella wrote:

 I'm pretty jazzed that this release is supposed to fix the bug
 where it deems PEF files
 over 16MB to be corrupt.

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I downloaded and installed it last night. Their site is being
 hammered ... download speed was about 10K bytes per second vs my  
 more
 usual 170K bytes per second. :-)


 Lots of operations seem snappier and smoother on Mac OS X v10.4.11,
 even on the PowerBook G4. The export dialog is redesigned, easier to
 use too. Also, a beta SDK, concentrating on the Export facilities,
 has now been made available for the first time.

 I'm pretty jazzed.

 G

 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toine wrote:

 Lightroom 1.3 is released. The links on the adobe site are not
 working. Found this in the adobe forums

 Mac
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/mac/1.x/
 LTRM_WWEFG_mac_1_3.dmg

 Windows
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/win/1.x/
 LTRM_WWEFG_win_1_3.exe

 First impression: faster and the write to XMP bug is solved!


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Re: Signature in the ocean (PESO)

2007-11-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/16/2007 12:57:28 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This island looks like a blot  or, together with the wake, 
like artist's  signature:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2005-2007/IMGP4403-3c.jpg

This  photo was taken shortly before approaching JFK airport in New York,
so it  must be somewhere in the vicinity of Long Island.
It looks somewhat similar  to Gardiners Island:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/35w6cv
but I suspect, it  is Robins Island:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2cmbax

I wish they had  better quality windows in commercial  aircrafts.

Igor

==
Heh, it does sort of look like that  (re signature). Fun shot.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: Nature's Stitching

2007-11-16 Thread Jack Davis
Actually a relief to read, Paul.
Thanks.

Jack
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 Interesting and unique. I think it's a worthy subject. 
 Paul
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 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Must have seen hundreds of bird assemblages over the years, never
  without wondering why certain locations are chosen.
  This doesn't give a hint either, but I thought they did an
 outstanding
  job of outlining the ridge and chimney.
  It must be obvious that I'm not above posting about anything these
  days.
  Taken an hour or so ago on a gray chilly day.
  
  Jack
  
  Comments should be interesting ;)
  
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Crovella


P. J. Alling wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:
 Cotty wrote:

   
 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
 
 He spoke too soon...

   
 meh, whatever turns your crank
 
 This stems from total depravity.
   
   
 I think it's time we shifted gears here.
 
 Before things come completely derailed.
   
 Okay, now I'm feeling pressure.
 
 Quite understandable, given the chain of events.
   
 Pedalling your platitudes again.
 
 When the mood strikes me. It comes and goes in cycles, you know.
   
 I can't help but think that you guys are just spinning your wheels.
 

Indeed. Time for a brake.

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Bayonet question :D

2007-11-16 Thread .timbercode
Hi list! :D

I've an adapter for Pentax K but I don't know the other. The adapter 
says PK-HB, but today we tried it on a Hasselblad lens and it won't fit.
Here's a picture: http://timber.clancode.hu/misc/ize/bayonet.jpg

Thanks in advance,
Timber

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications


 Is there an optical reason why a mirror lens can't achieve high 
 resolution? I wouldn't think so. As Bill said, the only real drawback is 
 the bokeh. And with digital photography that can sometimes be repaired.

They are finicky to make. It's more difficult to align mirror lenses than 
refractors, from what I've been led to understand, and, of course, a front 
silvered mirror can be all over the place for quality, and I suppose might 
be prone to oxidizing of the silvered surface.
Having said that, there is a lot of very high end telescopes out there 
(Hubble?) that are essentially just great big mirror lenses, so the quality 
is there, as long as the manufacturer cares to put the effort into it.
There are a lot of cheap reflector lenses out there, and, like all cheap 
lenses, optical quality is probably going to be compromised somewhat. The 
Tamron 500/8 was not a cheap lens, although it certainly wasn't in the price 
league of the 600/5.6.
I'll dig it out and play with it a bit over the next day or so and post 
something from it. Probably not high art, but I'll try for something more 
interesting than a brick wall.

William Robb 


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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread .timbercode
Thanks! Take your time :D

.t

William Robb wrote:
 I'll have to dig the thing out and shoot something with it, I don't have 
 anything at hand from it.
 Give me a day or two.
 It will be interesting to see if it is as good on digital as I recall it 
 being on film.

 William Robb 

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Re: PESO: Hare's Foot

2007-11-16 Thread David Savage
On Nov 15, 2007 9:48 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's gorgeous, David. Great composition and beautiful light. My
 only nit would be the slight softness in the lower right hand corner.
 But I bet you could fix that in PhotoShop.

Thanks Paul.

I think the OOF areas are a little to far gone to be able to fudge it
in Photoshop :-)

Thanks for looking  commenting

Cheers,

Dave

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP8938.jpg

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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread Thibouille
I think mirror lens have the realyl advantages (well more or less) of being:

* portable (but a bit too much, they are too lightweight for the focal
length IMO and as such difficult to stabilize). In the end you still
need a tripod which kinda negates the argument.

* cheap. and I think this is the major point why people buy those. I
have one although I didn't pay for it (long term loan ;) I'm sometimes
very happy having it. I know I will *never* be able to pay for
proper 500mm lens. so I'm happy with my Tamron.

True the bokeh is indeed very problematic. But as a chgeap astro lens
like moonshots (at least for a newbie like me) I think it is a very
acceptable solution... not without obvious drawbacks.

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Re: PESO: Hare's Foot

2007-11-16 Thread David Savage
Thanks Jack.

It is drooping because it sticking out of a hanging basket. Maybe it
needs a little blue pill.

As for the DOF it was a compromise between being able to hand hold the
camera or ending up with a blurry mess. Thsi was I only ended up with
a half blurry mess.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 15, 2007 10:47 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David,
 It has a troubling droop to it. Think I'd try propping it up some and,
 perhaps, cropping the left edge a little.
 Also, the very shallow DoF detracts somewhat.

 Jack

 --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP8938.jpg

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PESO -- Macroscian

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nothing special;  just a cool word that I wanted to illustrate:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6646233

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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
I tend to look at the histogram the most - that can be tremendously
helpful in tricky lighting situations - more so than just looking at
the image.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007, 8:00:22 AM, you wrote:


as I can only get a hint of what Ive done from the tiny photo.. although it
as is sufficient to trash the really obvious
as out of focus, super camera shake, subject out of frame stuff.. ...  LIke
as Robb, I need to look at them on the
as big screen to really tell what I've gotten.  

as And using the button that zooms in  on the camera really messed me up
as once when I went to the next frame
as to examine it after zooming in on one.  I was photo'ing a little birdie
as on a roof -- shot about 10 frames -
as thought I had gotten it but all I was seeing on back of the camera was a
as piece of the sky -  cursing myself
as and trashing a bunch I sudden realized I was only looking at a corner of
as the frame.  ugh.  Probably didn't
as have a decent shot anyway. sigh.

as ann




  

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Subject: Re: A question about chimping
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:36:00 -0600


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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: A question about chimping





, and to get it right one must see.
  

Or one must have enough confidence in their knowledge and abilities.


You're right, it's a hallmark of many pro's to check and review their
images on the spot in order to correct deficiences, and in the past they
spent thousands of dollars for the capability with duplicate backs,
polaroid film, and in some cases duplicate bodies.
  

Polaroids were almost exclusively used in the studio to check lighting and
whatnot, and often that was to satisfy art directors, not the
photographers themselves.

William Robb


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Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...

2007-11-16 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 09:44:13 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Don't quite know how to respond to this...
 
 mike wilson wrote:
  Although their grasp of English and presentation skills are somewhat 
  lacking, he/she asks a pertinent question, in a pleasant manner, in an 
  apparent attempt to increase their knowledge of the subject.  I would give 
  them a proper, courteous answer.

 Seriously?
 
 Well, maybe I'm the one who has got it wrong, but this looks very 
 similar to a number of emails I've received in the past, which I've 
 always thought were some kind of spam or scam, although I haven't quite 
 understood what exactly they were supposed to trick me into doing. The 
 messages I'm talking about (I haven't kept any of them, unfortunately) 
 haven't been about Pentax cameras, but seemed to touch upon some subject 
 or the other I had expressed an interest somewhere on the net. Their 
 text has been a more or less incomprehensible (auto-generated?) 
 collection of words related to the subject - organised into nearly 
 grammatically correct, yet more or less meaningless, sentences...

I've seen that stuff, too.  This just seems like some person who has bought 
into the dream and suddenly realises that there is more to it than pointing and 
pressing the button.  If the spam generators have become this good I might as 
well take my bike to a nice, warm hotel room.

 
 I thought this was what Mark was assuming, too...
  From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/11/15 Thu AM 01:26:27 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Don't quite know how to respond to this...
 
  An email I just received (unedited, in its entirety):
 
  I'VE CONTACTED YOU BEFORE ABOUT PENTAX CAMERAS. I SEE YOU USE THE K10D 
  THATS WHAT I PURCHASED HOW DO YOU LIKE IT AND DO USE FILTERS ON YOUR 
  LENSES. I HEARD THE FILTERS LET LESS LITE IN AND DETRACTS FROM THE 
  IMAGE THANKS  I REALLY ENJOY YOUR WEB SITE
 
 
  Suggestions for a response would be appreciated. I probably won't *use* 
  any of them, but I might *enjoy* them :)
  
 
 
 
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
 He spoke too soon...

 meh, whatever turns your crank

 This stems from total depravity.
   
I think it's time we shifted gears here.

Before things come completely derailed.

Okay, now I'm feeling pressure.

Quite understandable, given the chain of events.

Pedalling your platitudes again.

When the mood strikes me. It comes and goes in cycles, you know.



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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread pnstenquist
Is there an optical reason why a mirror lens can't achieve high resolution? I 
wouldn't think so. As Bill said, the only real drawback is the bokeh. And with 
digital photography that can sometimes be repaired.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: .timbercode 
 Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications
 
 
  Depends how you define sharp :D Mirror bokeh is fine with me :D I like 
  donuts!
 
 Sharp is defined as having high resolution.
 
 William Robb
 
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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread mike wilson
'Tis now.

 
 From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 11:33:39 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD
 
 It's not Friday.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 -
 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, 
 but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
  
 From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I have a cable release for an *istD that I found after I sold mine.
  I'll ship it for free to anyone in the US or for shipping costs
  outside the US if it turns out to cost more than a couple of bucks to
  ship. I also have an *istD manual available for the same terms if
  anyone's interested.
 
 
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RE: Lightroom 1.3 update

2007-11-16 Thread Bob W
Excellent, thanks for pointing this out.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Toine
 Sent: 16 November 2007 18:04
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Lightroom 1.3 update
 
 Lightroom 1.3 is released. The links on the adobe site are not
 working. Found this in the adobe forums
 
 Mac

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/mac/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_mac_1_3.dmg
 
 Windows

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/win/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_win_1_3.exe
 
 First impression: faster and the write to XMP bug is solved!
 
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Re: K10D PEF or DNG?

2007-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 Which do you use as K10D Raw, PEF or DNG?

PEF - to save space on cards while shooting.

My recent testing showed, however, that if you need that little extra  
for fast bursts of 4-10 sequence shots, it's better to set DNG format.

Godfrey

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RE: Shooting in low temperature outdoors

2007-11-16 Thread Bob W
 
 Others will no dounbt have given you some advice but, 
 particularly for Prague, watch out for the cathedral if you 
 visit it.  When I first went, this massive building had been 
 sitting for two weeks in minus25 degree temperatures.  The 
 day before I arrived, it warmed up to about freezing.  
 Walking around inside the cathedral for an hour or so (I had 
 to stop because I was so cold) I had the spectacle of 
 condensation forming on my lenses as I walked out into the snow...
 

I was in Moscow at about that temperature a few years ago. I had a
brace of LXs and the only time I got any condensation was going from
outdoors into a lovely steamy warm café full of boiling kettles and
steaming workers. The cameras coped admirably and all I had to do when
I went out again was to wipe off the condensation before it froze.

Bob


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Re: PESO: Nature's Stitching

2007-11-16 Thread John Graves
Jack,

I like the  way you  mounted the pigeon on the end of the mast.  Is this 
how you lured  in for the picture?  I know a pigeon racing  fancier who 
would cry to see that shot..they are supposed to be in the coop.

John Graves
WA1JG
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting and unique. I think it's a worthy subject. 
 Paul
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 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Must have seen hundreds of bird assemblages over the years, never
 without wondering why certain locations are chosen.
 This doesn't give a hint either, but I thought they did an outstanding
 job of outlining the ridge and chimney.
 It must be obvious that I'm not above posting about anything these
 days.
 Taken an hour or so ago on a gray chilly day.

 Jack

 Comments should be interesting ;)

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PESO: A Steaming Cup of Holiday Cheer

2007-11-16 Thread pnstenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6646914

K10D, FA 50/1.4, 1/125th, two monolights firing into umbrellas

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PESO: Nature's Stitching

2007-11-16 Thread Jack Davis
Must have seen hundreds of bird assemblages over the years, never
without wondering why certain locations are chosen.
This doesn't give a hint either, but I thought they did an outstanding
job of outlining the ridge and chimney.
It must be obvious that I'm not above posting about anything these
days.
Taken an hour or so ago on a gray chilly day.

Jack

Comments should be interesting ;)

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Re: PESO - Face

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think it is pleasing and effective.

On Nov 16, 2007 10:50 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I didn't take many shots of my Mom's face, as  she was sort of a poor model.
 Too self conscious. Also I wanted natural light  and the backgrounds in the
 living room were distracting. But about two years  ago, after I showed some 
 hand
 shots, someone asked for face shot.

 So I  briefly showed this one. Originally I lightened shadows. This time, I
 did not. I  like this rendering better, I feel it makes for a stronger shot.
 Wonder if  people will  agree?

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/face.htm

 Comments  welcome.

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Re: Seattle at Dusk

2007-11-16 Thread Rick Womer
Ken,

Thanks for your comments.

The foreground isn't blank.  On most monitors (all 3
in our household and several at work) there is
planking in the foreground whose diagonal lines lead
into the illuminated buildings (making it Art ;-) )

That said, I think David Savage's editing, which
lightens the foreground, is a real improvement.

Rick

--- Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would be a much stronger image without all the blank
 foreground. Crop just 
 below the lowest lights  see for yourself.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:08 PM
 Subject: PESO: Seattle at Dusk
 
 
  Another from my recent Seattle trip.  There are a
 few
  open wooden piers along the harbor with beautiful
  views of the city and Puget Sound.
 
 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6641058size=lg
 
  K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW
 via
  Lightroom.
 
  I eagerly anticipate comments and critiques.
 
  Rick
 
 
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Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

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From: .timbercode
Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications


 Could you give some samples?

I'll have to dig the thing out and shoot something with it, I don't have 
anything at hand from it.
Give me a day or two.
It will be interesting to see if it is as good on digital as I recall it 
being on film.

William Robb 


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Re: Lightroom 1.3 update

2007-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I downloaded and installed it last night. Their site is being  
hammered ... download speed was about 10K bytes per second vs my more  
usual 170K bytes per second. :-)


Lots of operations seem snappier and smoother on Mac OS X v10.4.11,  
even on the PowerBook G4. The export dialog is redesigned, easier to  
use too. Also, a beta SDK, concentrating on the Export facilities,  
has now been made available for the first time.

I'm pretty jazzed.

G

On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toine wrote:

 Lightroom 1.3 is released. The links on the adobe site are not
 working. Found this in the adobe forums

 Mac
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/mac/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_mac_1_3.dmg

 Windows
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/lightroom/win/1.x/LTRM_WWEFG_win_1_3.exe

 First impression: faster and the write to XMP bug is solved!


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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread pnstenquist

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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?
 
  What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
  
  He spoke too soon...
 
  meh, whatever turns your crank
 
  This stems from total depravity.

 I think it's time we shifted gears here.
 
 Before things come completely derailed.
 
 Okay, now I'm feeling pressure.
 
 Quite understandable, given the chain of events.
 
 Pedalling your platitudes again.
 
 When the mood strikes me. It comes and goes in cycles, you know.
 
 You should be behind bars.

Or back in the saddle.
 
 
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Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:
Cotty wrote:
   
 A  misunderstanding after he had too much to drink?

 What, the bike led him  on? Didn't shout no?
 
 He spoke too soon...

 meh, whatever turns your crank

 This stems from total depravity.
   
I think it's time we shifted gears here.

Before things come completely derailed.


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Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:16 PM, William Robb wrote:

 How about shooting tethered to your laptop  review that way?

 I don't have the Remote Assistant for the K10 (is there such a beast)
 operational, and I believe I would need to upgrade the firmware and  
 give up
 the ability to play with the AF offset.

I haven't found much use to playing with AF offsets.

The Pentax Remote Assistant for the K10D has been out for both  
Windows and Mac OS X users for some time now, I think it requires fw  
v1.2. Downloadable from the Pentax website...

Godfrey

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Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD

2007-11-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Blakely
Subject: Re: FS Friday: FREE cable release for *istD


 I'm already on serious meds for my hip. This is as mellow as I get. Thank
 your God that I'm not drug free and at full asshole capacity.

I'll drink to that.

William Robb 


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