orca 46 beta

2024-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 beta to experimental. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 16:47:09 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >> >I have uploaded

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread john doe
On 1/21/24 16:47, Sebastian Humenda wrote: Hi Samuel Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi Samuel Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: >Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: >> >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to >> >have

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to > >have improved performance a lot through using cache.o > Sounds great, thanks for givi

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to >have improved performance a lot through using cache.o Sounds great, thanks for giving the opportunity to test it out. Are there any minimum required software ve

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-20 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Hi Samuel, Thanks for that upload. I’ll try to test. Raphaël Samuel Thibault writes: > Hello, > > I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to > have improved performance a lot through using cache. It also got > significant rewrites to clear the cod

orca 46 alpha

2024-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to have improved performance a lot through using cache. It also got significant rewrites to clear the code, so there may be regressions ahead. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 09:57:25PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Jason J.G. White, le mar. 14 nov. 2023 08:56:27 -0500, a ecrit: >> On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: >> >> After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal >> repo >> >> all

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, This is all very odd. Jason J.G. White, le mar. 14 nov. 2023 08:56:27 -0500, a ecrit: > > On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal repo > > all things are good again: > > You'll need to mark the

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Jason J.G. White wrote: > On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > > After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal > > repo > > all things are good again: > > You'll need to mark the appropriate libvte packages

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Jason J.G. White
On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal repo all things are good again: You'll need to mark the appropriate libvte packages as on hold until Samuel's patch is accepted upstream, and the upstream version enters

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian >packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/ I was

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
ion with > the new flatfview feature from orca and not with brltty's COPY_RECT feature Ok, how do you copy from orca exactly? The FLAT_REVIEW_COPY = _("Copy the contents under flat review to the clipboard") Orca command? Or braille routing keys? Could you kill your xbrlapi,

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-25 Thread Christian Schoepplein
t; I've also tested it with the new show flatview contents feature of orca 45 >> during working in a tmux session. There the same issue is happening if I >> copy multiline text and insert it using different editors. > >I don't see the relation between flatview and copy? Are you u

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
nts feature of orca 45 > during working in a tmux session. There the same issue is happening if I > copy multiline text and insert it using different editors. I don't see the relation between flatview and copy? Are you using a copy feature from orca? Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Schoepplein
y multiline content, >the issue is happening and the content is inserted in reverse order and with >broken line breaks. > >I'll test if the internal tmux copy and paste function is working without a >problem if I've found out how to use it, currently I am to stupid to >understan

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi samuel, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 oct. 2023 22:36:34 +0200, a ecrit: >> Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: >> > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if >> >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 oct. 2023 22:36:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen for my daily job. > >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen for my daily job. > > The original content I like to copy looks like this: > >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-10 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel and all, there is another strange issue with the terminal, but I do not know if it is libvte, tmux or maybe brltty related. I am using brltty in the terminal, the braille functionality of orca is turned of in the orca profile settings for mate-terminal. In /etc/X11/Xsession.d

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 11:03:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Which exact version are you testing? Please use > >dpkg -l libvte-2.91-0:amd64 > >otherwise I cannot say anything about your results. My package with >latest changes is versioned 0.73.99-1+fix, not 0.74. I got version

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 06 oct. 2023 20:52:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an > >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel and all, On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian >packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-13 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:31:27PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Samuel Thibault, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 14:07:35 +0200, a ecrit: >> Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: >> > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. >> >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 14:07:35 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. > > into > > another terminal, and then switch back into the terminal with the

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. into > another terminal, and then switch back into the terminal with the translate > command everything looks good and the output is in a seperate line.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hi, Christian Schoepplein (2023/09/12 13:30 +0200): > I do have the problem not only with translate, this was just an example > command to show the issue. I have the same problems with apt and other > commands too, so the issue IMHO is not related to translate only. Yes that's what I was

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Seb and all, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:52:39AM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: >May it be the case that translate adjusts its output to the size of the >terminal? I do have the problem not only with translate, this was just an example command to show the issue. I have the same problems

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hello, May it be the case that translate adjusts its output to the size of the terminal? That may enxplain the difference observed in behaviours between Samuel and Christian. Seb.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 09:10:56AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: >> The following command displays >> the output in a long line instead dividing it into seperate lines: >> >> translate -i occure > >On my system it does output

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 09:06:00AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: >> But there are still a few problematic things: > >Are these regressions over the previous state? No. Its much better now, also with the other

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: > The following command displays > the output in a long line instead dividing it into seperate lines: > > translate -i occure On my system it does output Vorkommen {n} (von etw.) [min.] | Erdölvorkommen {n} | Vorkommen [...]

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: > But there are still a few problematic things: Are these regressions over the previous state? Not that I don't want to fix them, but I want to get something committed so we can make some progress, even if not perfect

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 12:36:28AM +0200, Jérémy Prego wrote: >for me, everything looks good compared to the version in debian testing I've also installed the packages you build yesterday and did some testing. The problem with the statusbar from apt seems to be gone, very cool, and

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Jérémy Prego
file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the line before reading the whole line. Is this a regression over the previous versions or not? yes, it's a regression. i don't have this behavior with the version in debian testing Ok, I see

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 11:38:26 +0200, a ecrit: > A way to rupture the console is to update the packages on a system with apt. > The progress line at the bottom seems to trigger the unwanted behaviour very > reproducable :-). I know, that was the original testcase that

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
g cat file.txt |less and press enter to > > > go > > > down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the > > > line before reading the whole line. > > Is this a regression over the previous versions or not? > > yes, it's a regression.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Ok, is it more problematic than the various erratic behaviors that the >debian testing version has? Yes :-(. For me also the new patch brings no real improvement but thank you so much to continue working on it. A way to rupture

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 11:38:26 +0200, a ecrit: > Just out of curiosity: Is the problem related to libvte in general or is it > related to the version in Debian? It's completely a vte bug. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
g cat file.txt |less and press enter to > > > go > > > down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the > > > line before reading the whole line. > > Is this a regression over the previous versions or not? > yes, it's a regression. i don't

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Jérémy Prego
Le 11/09/2023 à 09:01, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: I noticed a small problem 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: > I noticed a small problem > > 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go > down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the > line before reading

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-10 Thread Jérémy Prego
hello, I've just tested this version out of curiosity. I noticed a small problem 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the line before reading the whole line. Jerem Le 11/09/2023 à

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/ Please test so we can at last get this fixed! Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-07 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/07 20:10 +0200): > The fixed packages are in Debian stable and testing, could people make > sure to upgrade and test before I upload the fixes to bookworm? Can't say thanks enough for your hard and prompt work. Just upgraded, everything seems to work normally. Thanks

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 05 sept. 2023 00:08:33 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:59:05 +0200, a ecrit: > > I'm on it. > > So, as usual it's the combination of two issues that were producing the > odd behavior. > [...] > So, long story short: > >

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chevelle, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 20:27:08 -0400, a ecrit: >     Thanks Samuel.  The ORCA Debian package only has xbrlapi as Reccomends.  > There doesn't seem to be any warning by ORCA so if xbrlapi isn't installed > the unsuspecting user has a Braille display that doesn't work properly. 

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Chevelle
    Thanks Samuel.  The ORCA Debian package only has xbrlapi as Reccomends.  There doesn't seem to be any warning by ORCA so if xbrlapi isn't installed the unsuspecting user has a Braille display that doesn't work properly.  Should xbrlapi be a depends instead? On 9/4/23 18:08, Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
tty with the BrlAPI braille driver and the AtSpi2 screen driver, but the latter wouldn't load, so brltty would fallback to the "no" screen driver. But that driver was not telling the BrlAPI braille driver that it cannot do much, on the contrary it would tell that it works really well, bet

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:52:11 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:42 +0200): > > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), > > > > That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:42 +0200): > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), > > That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versions. In > versions before 6.6-1, the xbrlapi package was trying to start

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versions. In versions before 6.6-1, the xbrlapi package was trying to start brltty with a ba driver and an a2 driver, only to fail

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:12 +0200): > I don't mean it's not implemented. I mean in the tests one can make, > Orca doesn't happen to be doing anything with them. For *whatever* > reason that might lie between the actual braille device and Orca. Yes yes, I'm following you now. &

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
ct is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > > > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields > > > > > > Well I am unsure about what you mean by text field here because, for the > > > little of GUI I am using (Firefox essentially), I have

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:28 +0200): > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > > a2 screen driver that t

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:39:07 +0200, a ecrit: > Ok but at this point which is the exactly the main function of brltty-x11? Providing a brltty-like experience wherever it can on the graphical desktop. Yes that's not very precise, because the details are dense. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
tien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields Well I am unsure about what you mean by text field here bec

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields > > Well I am unsur

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > Ok, I see. > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields Well I am unsure about what you mean by text field here because, for the little of GU

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
ress down arrow key. > > Have you an idea about this behaviour? AIUI that'd have to be implemented in Orca. xbrlapi and brltty-x11 don't actually know about graphical items etc, they only provide some support within a given widget. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields because it knows it brings better support in that case (the cursor routing you get is achieved by the brltty core itself, not the a2 driver which is only the "

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ok, I see. So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields because it knows it brings better support in that case (the cursor routing you get is achieved by the brltty core itself, not the a2 driver which is only

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Alexander Epaneshnikov
On Sun, Sep 03, 2023 at 11:18:49PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Alexander Epaneshnikov, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 00:08:42 +0300, a ecrit: > > in order to return this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm > > should occur in libvte or in orca? > > In vte. Diff algo

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexander Epaneshnikov, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 00:08:42 +0300, a ecrit: > in order to return this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm > should occur in libvte or in orca? In vte. Diff algorithms should be done as early as possible to avoid overflowing the rest. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Alexander Epaneshnikov
it. A question for Samuel. in order to return this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm should occur in libvte or in orca? because as a vte-based terminal every day user, I can't imagine life without this patch. ps Well, this patch has a difficult fate. > Jerem [1]: https://gitlab.g

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Jérémy Prego
this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm should occur in libvte or in orca? because as a vte-based terminal every day user, I can't imagine life without this patch. ps Well, this patch has a difficult fate. Jerem [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88

Re: [orca] (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Jérémy Prego
confess I don't know what to put in it. Jerem Le 02/09/2023 à 02:55, Jérémy Prego (jeremy) a écrit : Hello, since this evening, I've been experiencing a strange bug with orca, but I don't think he's the direct culprit. if I fill my terminal and then issue a command, e.g. "echo foo&q

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-10 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
ason White" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2022 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting Here's a snippet from a journal.txt I made of the output, just involving today, and around Orca. It mentions something about Orca, and I don't know what it is pointing to: The segment is: [843]:

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-10 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Here's a snippet from a journal.txt I made of the output, just involving today, and around Orca. It mentions something about Orca, and I don't know what it is pointing to: The segment is: [843]: Run “orca --replace” to replace that process with a new one. snippet below: ted service 'org.a11y.Bus

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-10 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Thank you. - Original Message - From: "Jason White" To: "K0LNY_Glenn" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2022 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting On 11/12/22 09:09, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Which logs should I look, and where? Run journalctl and have a look.

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-10 Thread Jason White
On 10/12/22 14:32, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: The last command didn't give an error, but it still does not auto start. Thanks for trying. Have you examined your system logs to find out whether it attempts to start, but fails for some reason? Check whether at-spi2 is run. This is needed for Orca

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
The last command didn't give an error, but it still does not auto start. Thanks for trying. - Original Message - From: "Paul Wise" To: "K0LNY_Glenn" ; Sent: Friday, December 09, 2022 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Well I looked in /etc/xdg/autostart and Orca is in there, something like: orca-autostart.desktop. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Paul Wise" To: "K0LNY_Glenn" ; Sent: Friday, December 09, 2022 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Thanks Paul, I'll look at those suggestions. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Paul Wise" To: "K0LNY_Glenn" ; Sent: Friday, December 09, 2022 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 18:30 -0600, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Hope someone has some ideas. I note that orca is supposed to autostart by default:    $ apt-file search autostart | grep ^orca:    orca: /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop    Seems it only happens when the screen-reader opt

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
stall the Gnome Flashback, just installed mate-desktop-environment-extras. I noticed that Mate used the Orca voice settings I set up when I was running the Gnome Flashback. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jason White" To: Sent: Friday, December 09, 2022 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn

Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread Jason White
If you start Orca at the log-in dialogue with Alt-Super-S, it should remain running in the desktop session and persist across reboots. (I'm using Debian Testing and GNOME, so this isn't your exact situation.) Also, check your desktop's Accessibility settings and ensure that "screen r

Orca Isn't Autostarting

2022-12-09 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Hello, On Debian 11.5, I just installed Mate with extras. I put Orca in the auto start applications in control panel, but it still isn't auto starting. I've been trying to find an answer on-line, regarding making an icon and putting it into an auto start folder, but the closest reference I found

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Egon, le mar. 15 nov. 2022 06:10:59 +0100, a ecrit: > What can I do when the kernel in Debian stable (even with non-free > firmware-supported net-install image) not support the integrated Wi-Fi > card of my notebook? Easiest is to use a USB wifi dongle. Samuel

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
; I installed the Mate desktop environment. > > Orca did not start automatically but the console-based speaking software > > did. > > > > How can I install the system to avoid these problems? > In a properly installed system, pressing Alt-Super-S at the log-in dialogue > should start Orca. > >

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Egon
Hi All, Thank you. What can I do when the kernel in Debian stable (even with non-free firmware-supported net-install image) not support the integrated Wi-Fi card of my notebook? How can be easy to create net-install media with pached-kernel to support it? The Wi-Fi card name is: MediaTek MT7921

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
urms of what else you want, plus, orca comes as standard, if > > your pc requires non free firmware, go grab one of those images > > > It is a notebook PC without RJ45 port and I have fear that I unable to > set Wi-Fi connection... > So, to use the netinstall image is not possib

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Egon
Hi, 2022-10-29 22:46 GMT+02:00, Samuel Thibault : > Hello, > > Egon, le sam. 29 oct. 2022 20:03:33 +0200, a ecrit: >> better if I install it from "debian-11.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" image? > > When installing from that image, I do get Orca starting automaticall

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Egon, le sam. 29 oct. 2022 20:03:33 +0200, a ecrit: > How can I install the system to avoid these problems? > Can I install the system from "debian-live-11.3.0-amd64-mate.iso" It seems that the debian live images have dropped the bits that make orca auto-started. Samuel

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Egon, le sam. 29 oct. 2022 20:03:33 +0200, a ecrit: > better if I install it from "debian-11.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" image? When installing from that image, I do get Orca starting automatically. Samuel

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Egon
Hi, 2022-10-29 20:07 GMT+02:00, Jordan Livesey : > just use the netinstall iso files, they give you a minimal mate desktop > with gimp and libreoffice but everything else you are free to use and > customise in turms of what else you want, plus, orca comes as standard, if > your pc

Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Jordan Livesey
just use the netinstall iso files, they give you a minimal mate desktop with gimp and libreoffice but everything else you are free to use and customise in turms of what else you want, plus, orca comes as standard, if your pc requires non free firmware, go grab one of those images On Sat, Oct 29

Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-10-29 Thread Egon
Hi All, How can I install Debian without "auto start of Orca" problem? I installed Debian with "Speech support" option from the actual Debian standard first DVD many years ago. I installed the Mate desktop environment. Orca did not start automatically but the console-based s

Re: webkit and the orca screen reader

2022-10-26 Thread Jordan Livesey
I remember trying out conqueror once which is based on webkit but being kkde plasma, it doesn't work with orca On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 3:02 PM Jordan Livesey wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:29 PM john doe wrote: > >> On 10/26/22 13:14, Jordan Livesey wrote: >&g

Re: webkit and the orca screen reader

2022-10-26 Thread Jordan Livesey
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:29 PM john doe wrote: > On 10/26/22 13:14, Jordan Livesey wrote: > > hello everyone, due to google chrome having issues with orca, or any > > chromium based browser for that matter, where orca is reading lines > > Can you expend on the is

Re: webkit and the orca screen reader

2022-10-26 Thread john doe
On 10/26/22 13:14, Jordan Livesey wrote: hello everyone, due to google chrome having issues with orca, or any chromium based browser for that matter, where orca is reading lines Can you expend on the issue(s) you are having? regardless of your orca settings, I have decided to try a webkit

webkit and the orca screen reader

2022-10-26 Thread Jordan Livesey
hello everyone, due to google chrome having issues with orca, or any chromium based browser for that matter, where orca is reading lines regardless of your orca settings, I have decided to try a webkit based browser if any are for linux, how accessible is webkit with orca?

Re: what's new in orca 43.0

2022-10-18 Thread Jordan Livesey
I thought tesseract ocr would work but how would that be implemented with orca. is tesseract ocr even in bookworm? On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 4:20 PM chrys wrote: > Howdy Jordan, > > // I want to see this screen reader get lots of other new future > releases where you have ocr support

Re: what's new in orca 43.0

2022-10-18 Thread chrys
Howdy Jordan, // I want to see this screen reader get lots of other new future releases where you have ocr support and finally when you feel confident you can try my plugin driven refactoring of orca. its still a WIP but woks quite well. i created an simple OCR plugin there for testing https

what's new in orca 43.0

2022-10-18 Thread Jordan Livesey
hello folks, decided to install debian testing, which is the only version of debian I can actually get working on my computer. in doing so I am now running the latest orca, are there any new improvements I should be aware of? I want to see this screen reader get lots of other new future releases

Re: Videocall hearing the voice of Orca

2022-09-09 Thread Jason White
On 9/9/22 03:15, john doe wrote: I'm already doing that but it's a micro/headphone combo, so that might be the issue. Trying different headphones might be worthwhile. So far as I know, this is not a Linux-specific issue, so you probably aren't in a worse position than users of other

Re: Videocall hearing the voice of Orca

2022-09-09 Thread john doe
Answering publicly to this e-mail. On 9/7/2022 4:01 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: How can I ensure that I'm the only one that will hear Orca and prevent other persons in the call from hearing it? If you are listening to Orca in headphones and you are still having this issue, you may have

Re: Videocall hearing the voice of Orca

2022-09-08 Thread Jason White
On 7/9/22 04:45, john doe wrote: How can I ensure that I'm the only one that will hear Orca and prevent other persons in the call from hearing it? I turn speech off during online meetings and use only the braille display. This eliminates the problem you describe. More importantly, it frees

Re: Videocall hearing the voice of Orca

2022-09-08 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
I wonder then if a throat microphone would help. That is a microphone that rests on your larynx. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Sam Hartman" To: "Debian Accessibility Team" Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2022 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Videocall hearing the voice o

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