Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread RGB ES
Aqualung already listed the content of the get-help page and the lack of any reference to existing forums and that is my main point too (don't worry, I'll not talk about socialism nor capitalism... ;) ). I'll not quote anyone in particular here, so let's see if I can make the whole idea more clear

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/17 sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com: On 17/04/2011 22:33, RGB ES wrote: Aqualung already listed the content of the get-help page and the lack of any reference to existing forums and that is my main point too (don't worry, I'll not talk about socialism nor capitalism... ;) ). I'll

Re: [tdf-discuss] About the Navigator

2011-03-20 Thread RGB ES
Thanks for the hint. But this hides the other content on the navigator (tables, images...). I need to explore this... Cheers 2011/3/20 Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr: Le 19/03/2011 09:54, RGB ES a écrit : A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: https

[tdf-discuss] About the Navigator

2011-03-19 Thread RGB ES
A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator What do you think? Cheers Ricardo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Euro symbol not inserted into write documents

2011-03-19 Thread RGB ES
Almost all modern typefaces include the euro symbol, no need to use a different font for that: it's unicode 20AC. If you for any reason can't find it, just press Ctrl+Shift+U (you will see an underlined u), then type 20ac and press Enter: the euro symbol € will appear. This works not only on LibO

[tdf-discuss] Local LibO Planets?

2011-03-17 Thread RGB ES
Just as the subject says: are there plans to create LibO Planets for different localizations? With the growing community, there will be bloggers talking about LibO so a dedicated planet would be interesting, I think. And more interesting if there are more Planets, one for each (mayor)

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer

2011-03-09 Thread RGB ES
2011/3/9 Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar: Alexandro isn't the trouble... you know what is? Maybe a wrong concept. Alexandro have the concept to give localization support to both, OOo and LibO and to help the Spanish localization of both projects under the same umbrella (something

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help Pack

2011-03-05 Thread RGB ES
Hola, Luis The help pack contains all the help files you get when going to Help - LibreOffice Help (or just F1). On OOo those files came with the language packs, but on LibO they are a separated download, nothing more, nothing less. Saludos ;) Ricardo 2011/3/5 Luis E Vásquez r

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-03-02 Thread RGB ES
Robert, *, I'm not very deep involved in spellchecking, but nevertheless trying a shot.. Robert Derman schrieb: RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, LibO dictionaries are the same dictionaries from OOo.  If you have a custom dictionary where you added the words you miss, you can import (I mean, copy

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-26 Thread RGB ES
I get a certification error with konqueror, but not with firefox for https://www.libreoffice.org/. Same for https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ 2011/2/26 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com: On 2/26/2011 1:59 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, NoOp wrote on 2011-02-25 22.42: Added note: you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Turning off auto-styles in Writer

2011-02-21 Thread RGB ES
Explore the option under Tools - Autocorrect options - Options tab. Specially Apply styles and replace custom styles. Turning off some options from that menu will make your life easier ;) 2011/2/21 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com: Hi Using LibO-3.3.1.2 in Debian testing/ wheezy, writer has

Re: [tdf-discuss] Writer automatically inserts space at bottom of text

2011-02-21 Thread RGB ES
Format - Paragraph - Indents and spacing. But it will be better if you use styles instead of direct formatting. Please, review the existing documentation: all these formatting issues you have are already well documented... they are just some default settings for the powerful tools Writer offers.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Writer automatically inserts space at bottom of text

2011-02-21 Thread RGB ES
until you find the Default paragraph style, right click on it and Edit - Indent and spacing tab. Writer is about the use of styles, you need to learn how to use them, otherwise you will have lots of headaches ;) 2011/2/21 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com: On 21/02/11 21:41, RGB ES wrote

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-02-20 Thread RGB ES
AFAIK, LibO dictionaries are the same dictionaries from OOo. If you have a custom dictionary where you added the words you miss, you can import (I mean, copy to the right location) that dictionary into LibO user profile. See here for more details about the user profile:

Re: [tdf-discuss] table tool bar keep open

2011-02-19 Thread RGB ES
AFAIK, it's a feature. If you want the table toolbar to not disturb your work space, when it just drag it and anchor it below the text area: I always put there all the contextual toolbars. Another option is to close forever that toolbar (unchecking it when it appears) and create a custom one

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need Thai spell checking

2011-02-13 Thread RGB ES
Try with this dictionary: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict-th 2011/2/13 Robert Parker rlp1...@gmail.com: How is it possible to get a Thai dictionary and have LO auto spell check Thai words. NB the text in question will in general be word separated unlike normal Tha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need Thai spell checking

2011-02-13 Thread RGB ES
Install the dictionary from Tools - Extension manager - Add. Then, restart LibO (including the quickstarter). Now you will be able to chose the language on the paragraph style (font tab). 2011/2/13 Robert Parker rlp1...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:55 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents

2011-01-30 Thread RGB ES
Many times I successfully converted/fixed problematic eps files using inkscape: they are opened as vector graphics and you can modify them and export to almost any format (eps included...) 2011/1/30 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net: Le 2011-01-30 07:10, Magnus Johansson a écrit : Salut

Re: [tdf-discuss] What features are missing when a JRE is missing in Windows ?

2011-01-30 Thread RGB ES
In a nutshell, without java you will not have: - Base - The bibliographic database - Some wizards you find on File - Wizards - Many extensions, like languagetool - I think some file converters (not sure about this one) Cheers 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguez magic...@member.fsf.org: Hi The Windows

Re: [tdf-discuss] EPS images in ODT documents

2011-01-29 Thread RGB ES
You already asked this on another email, I think... LibO do not render EPS files, it only use the raster preview (when included). If, instead of exporting to pdf, you print to a file with a postscript printer driver, and then convert that file to pdf you will be fine. 2011/1/29 Magnus Johansson

Re: [tdf-discuss] EPS images in ODF documents

2011-01-28 Thread RGB ES
It is not. During edition you can only see the raster preview (when available). But you can still use eps images on Writer without too much problems: you just need not to use the native pdf export. Use a postscript printer driver to print to a file instead, and then convert that postscript file to

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-16 Thread RGB ES
It is clear you cannot please everyone: the list of problems you see on forums is almost the same list of problems I usually see on mailing lists... Every communication system have the same merits and defects of the people using it. Nothing more, nothing less. The system can only add tools to easy

[tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-09 Thread RGB ES
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ They are hidden (no link on the help page) and you cannot post on them yet, but they exists and you can register ;) So my question is: how those forums will be organized? There will be one for each local site or only one on English? Categories?

Re: [tdf-discuss] Linux distros and LibO packaging

2011-01-09 Thread RGB ES
Good idea! Maybe a wiki page will be enough, but someone from each distro with enough knowledge should fill their part. On my experience, when giving support to OOo users on Linux many of their problems came from distro patches and were not present on vanilla build (anyone remember when kde4

Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

2011-01-06 Thread RGB ES
2011/1/6 Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com: I'm wondering why libre office is not interested in developing an HTML5 complete office Suite. Who told you that? An html5 app based on LibO does not exists yet, that's clear, but that does not mean it will never be one. LibO is a FOSS project, the only

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread RGB ES
IMO, to put the write part on an external extension is a good idea. There are other extensions for import export (like OpenOffice.org2GoogleDocs that gives export capabilities to GoogleDocs, Zoho and WebDAV) I still think that there are too many thing on save as dialogue that should go on export

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com: And BTW, the latest Open Office ALSO supports writing to OOXML format... As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are using some

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread RGB ES
Ubuntu's (and openSUSE's and sabayon's and...) OOo is go-oo, not oracle's OOo. 2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com: On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread RGB ES
It says oracle (based on oracle to be precise) because most of the code is copyrighted by oracle. Please, google a bit, it does not hurt... 2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com: On 31/12/10 13:23, RGB ES wrote: Ubuntu's (and openSUSE's and sabayon's and...) OOo is go-oo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread RGB ES
A possible compromise???: move all (I mean ALL) non native formats to the Export menu and let save/save as for the native formats only. Also, disable the possibility to change the default format for saving documents: in my experience on forums, many problems are fixed when you explain users that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread RGB ES
openxml is a really bad thing for the community. It was a shame its approval by iso, specially if we consider there was no working implementation of it (not even msoffice support that standard!!) By implementing this format on LibO we are not helping to improve the (absurd myth of)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/30 Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do about it I'm afraid That means nothing. MSOffice will be able to read the previous formats for a while, I think... -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-26 Thread RGB ES
Agree: an horizontally distributed wiki with good category tags is the way to go... But the problem seems to be quite different now: I asked to the website mailing lists and it seems that this kind of pages (end user pages) are not good for TDF wiki. They are planning a new LibO wiki so all these

[tdf-discuss] [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread RGB ES
I started a new page on the wiki about LibreOffice's user profile: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile English is not my native language, so please edit any grammar error you find there. Also, there are some holes on the info provided: the use of several folder inside the profile, for

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread RGB ES
Another new wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Entries for windows and mac need to be written (I only use Linux), help will be appreciated ;) Cheers 2010/12/25 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: I started a new page on the wiki about LibreOffice's user profile: http

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/25 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl: One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the pages, or ask on documentation@ or website@ ? To be honest, no... I just had some idle time today and hurried before something else grabbed it ;) I am not sure, but can imagine that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling (on my debian based system): libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you will not be able to use Math afterwards... So no, it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread RGB ES
equations :) 2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling (on my debian based system): libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb Umm, well

Re: [tdf-discuss] Still can't get 64-bit deb to work

2010-12-11 Thread RGB ES
Start LibO from terminal and copy every error messages, otherwise is quite difficult to guess what's happens ;) 2010/12/11 Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net: I also tried converting the RPMs through alien. All I get is the splash screen, and then the loading bar colors to about halfway,

Re: [tdf-discuss] 64bit now works in OO

2010-12-08 Thread RGB ES
?? I'm running 64 bits versions of OOo since 3.0 without problems. Go-oo had problems with 64 bits builds (pdf export on openSUSE was a nightmare for a long time) but vanilla builds always worked for me and LibO also. 2010/12/8 Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net: The current version of

[tdf-discuss] Formula-text alignment (patch for issue 972)

2010-12-08 Thread RGB ES
OOo DEV300m95 include the long awaited fix for issue 972 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=972 automated vertical alignment for Math objects on Writer documents. The quick tests I did show that the patch works quite well! I know it is too late for including this patch on LibO, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] About bundled fonts

2010-12-06 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/6 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com: Hi Ricardo, Libertine and Libertine G are different. The later is a Graphite font which utilizes the Graphite engine in LibreOffice. See: http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ I know this quite well (I use graphite features a lot), I mentioned them just

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF

2010-12-05 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/5 Gérard Fargeot gerard.farg...@orange.fr: You are dreaming. In OOo we have so many versions as distro, LibO is taking the same road. Each distro (each dev.) want his own built. We are not able to have 1 same product and you want an association with others suite... This is the big

[tdf-discuss] About bundled fonts

2010-12-05 Thread RGB ES
I just downloaded LibO 3.3rc1. As with beta3 it came with many fonts bundled, like Linux Libertine G and Linux Biolinum G. I have many of those fonts already installed on my system so here it is my question: which fonts use LibO, the ones on my system or those within the package? This is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Changing toolbar Icons

2010-12-01 Thread RGB ES
Tools - Options - LibreOffice - View: under Icon size and style you have several icon themes to play with ;) 2010/12/1 Frank Esposito frankespos...@gmail.com: For LibreOffice 3.3 beta, Does anyone know if the toolbar Icons will be changed in future releases? Does anyone know if it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Changing toolbar Icons

2010-12-01 Thread RGB ES
, so no idea... 2010/12/1 Frank Esposito frankespos...@gmail.com: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:35 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Tools - Options - LibreOffice - View: under Icon size and style you have several icon themes to play with ;) is this a Libre Office only feature? I do not have

Re: [tdf-discuss] the status bar

2010-11-30 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/30 Christophe Strobbe christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be: WW8Num3 seems to be a list style; you can find it in the Styles and Formatting widget when you click the button for List Styles (i.e. the button at the top, not the item List Styles in the menu at the bottom). When you use it,

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Feature...

2010-11-29 Thread RGB ES
Writer support master documents since many a year. Open your favourite template and go to File - Send - Master document: an .odm file will be created. Just create your subdocuments from the same template and you will be ok. Inside the master document and using the navigator (open it with F5), you

[tdf-discuss] [Usability]Auto-complete differences between OOo and LibO Calc

2010-11-18 Thread RGB ES
If in a Calc document you type on consecutive cells in a column, for example One Two One day and then you start the fourth cell by typing On Calc will suggest One. Up to here, everything Ok... but on OOo's if you hit TAB you can change the suggestion from One to One day while on LibO Calc if you

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Usability]Auto-complete differences between OOo and LibO Calc

2010-11-18 Thread RGB ES
Ooops! You are right... Thanks!!! 2010/11/18 Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com: On 18/11/2010 14:13, RGB ES wrote: If in a Calc document you type on consecutive cells in a column, for example One Two One day and then you start the fourth cell by typing On Calc will suggest One. Up

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice 3.3 Beta 3

2010-11-18 Thread RGB ES
LibO Beta 3 crash every time I try to dock the stylist or the navigator (bug reported) so... no, it is not stable enough yet. After all, it is beta... Best regards 2010/11/18 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com: On 2010-11-18 3:03 PM, Jesús Corrius wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:41 PM,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Why LO mobile version should not be ignored

2010-11-17 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/17 Florian Reisinger reisi...@live.at: I don't think a huge Office-Suite is necessary for mobile devices, but a reader for all and the module Writer would be a very nice idea -- Never used it, but look at the VisorODFMovil project:

Re: Inkscape vs. Draw (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Apply button)

2010-11-15 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/15 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com: The point is that for me Inkscape is more usable and if there was an option to replace Draw with it in LO/OOo I'd take that option. Clumsy non-multi-tasking dialogues are just one of many issues. I guess if a long time supporter of OOo like me is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Apply button

2010-11-14 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/14 Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org: RGB ES (???)! Put a physicists, and amateur photographer and a native Spanish speaker in one person and you will have a good nickname ;) During the analysis of special use cases within the Renaissance project, this has been

Re: [tdf-discuss] Clear separation between frontend and backend?

2010-11-07 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/7 Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com:        The plan to keep, and improve the existing VCL abstraction for the next year or so makes a lot of sense I believe. Of course, I think nobody is asking to try to fly when we do not know if we are able to walk without too much problems.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Missing function

2010-11-04 Thread RGB ES
A lorem ipsum generator? (that's what google gave me about =Lorem(12) word) Try dt and then press F3, or use this extension: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Magenta_Lorem_ipsum_generator 2010/11/4 Peter Rodwell pe...@intorg.org: I notice that the all-important Lorem function

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread RGB ES
As far as I can see, it is all on OOo macro language: if you install the extension and look at Tools - Macro - Organize macros - LibreOffice basic you will find all about it. 2010/11/4 Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:01:47 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: +10 -

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-04 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/4 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net: - Take this text and assume I want to emphasize one word. I could simply do Ctl-I and get the text in Italics or define a character style and apply it. The character style may be warranted, but it's a multi-step process, and quite frankly, if I

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-02 Thread RGB ES
A big +1 That's why I started the thread about better defaults: this will help a lot more than a new, shiny but unknown interface. OOo/LibO interface IS modern and flexible (contextual toolbars, dockers... everything customizable), but it have horrible defaults values. A couple of fixes here and

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-11-01 Thread RGB ES
2010/11/1 Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com: Hey, Here's what I think the whole style and document setup should look like. It's done very quickly in Inkscape, so don't expect anything spectacular. Still, I hope you get the general idea.

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-29 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/29 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Le 2010-10-28 17:45, RGB ES a écrit : The only reason to see tab stops and other formatting codes is if you need to *interact* with them: if you have a good set of paragraph styles the ability to see tab stops and other formatting codes is useless. So

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-29 Thread RGB ES
don't have to repeat that for every paragraph. 2010/10/29 Jussi Silvonen jussi.silvo...@gmail.com: 2010/10/29 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com Writer have a good tradition of tools that helps the build of complex documents (styles, styles and more styles!). What I would like to see instead of more

[tdf-discuss] About localization on Math

2010-10-29 Thread RGB ES
Math have localized names for Greek characters. I don't know which is the situation for other languages but the Spanish translations are simply horrible: for example, instead of épsilon (right spelling) you have epsilón (very wrong spelling: notice the different accent). There is a related issue

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-29 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/30 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net: I am puzzled as to why you want to avoid any direct formatting. I am a power user and a great fan of style sheets; yet, as far as I am concerned, the great strength of style sheets is when something needs to be repeatable. So I will define paragraph

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread RGB ES
The only reason to see tab stops and other formatting codes is if you need to *interact* with them: if you have a good set of paragraph styles the ability to see tab stops and other formatting codes is useless. So, all the concepts presented in this thread seems to be geared towards direct

[tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-24 Thread RGB ES
There are discussions on this list about UI redesign. Even if this is a good goal on the mid/long term, there are lots of things that can be done *immediately* to build a better user experience: change default toolbars and buttons. For example, LibO have enabled by default the nice Find toolbar,

Re: [tdf-discuss] A few initial comments on Beta2

2010-10-16 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/16 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com: (iii) when opening a previously saved document, it would be nice if the cursor went automatically to the last saved point of the document rather than what seems to happen now which is to default to the beginning of the doc.  This is especially

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-15 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/15 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com: I haven't used an RPM based distro in a really long time, but I'm curious - when you add a 3rd party repo like this, does the package manager still handle all of the dependencies correctly with respect to the rest of the system and the other

Re: [tdf-discuss] Paste Special - Text Only

2010-10-15 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/15 Greg Collver greg.coll...@gmail.com: I'd like to bring up the old issue of paste special, text only. This was never fixed in OOo, but it has been a one of my main annoyances with day to day use. Perhaps add a configuration option to change the behavior of paste special or add a new

[tdf-discuss] [GENERAL]International image

2010-10-12 Thread RGB ES
This is border line with marketing, but it is more of a general concept so I'll write it here instead of on the marketing mailing list so it can be discussed by more people. One of the strengths of LibO is (will be... as it was/is for OOo) its internationalization. But this strength comes not

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-09 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/9 Scott Furry scott.wl.fu...@gmail.com: And IMO that is the point. Distributions will only incorporate into the releases what /they feel/ is appropriate. And is that wrong? If you want the last on your computer as soon as possible, then you need to change to a rolling release distro...

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-09 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/9 Scott Furry scott.wl.fu...@gmail.com: --- This survey is to gauge the views of the LibreOffice community on the install/update method of LibreOffice. Please voice your opinion so that these considerations may be taken into account when the LibreOffice method of

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: So just to simplify it for those who are like me and who do not realize t he process behind the opendesktop.org update system (I'll use KDE4.5.X as an example): *** please correct these if I am wrong *** If you want to update your wallpaper, you can

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
Thanks. I am a little confused. So are you saying that packaging LibO in such a way as to be able to use the opendesktop.org system is not possible? Everything is possible... but that does not means it is desirable. You always need to use the right tool for the job, and nothing beat a good

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com: Is the opendesktop.org type proposal for the entire program, or just for the extensions, dictionaries, galleries, extensions, language packs, grammar checkers, and other addons? I think people here is talking about the upgrade process. On that case

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Do you know what the reasons were for not using these? It would seem to m ake sense that you would want to free up dev work and try to unify an upgrade process for everyone. Because at the end of the day, they do not work. Just one word: dependencies. If

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

2010-10-07 Thread RGB ES
Hmmm, I kind of think that there is a need for different forums. LibreOffice and OpenOffice are two different projects now that will start to diverge more and more as time goes on. I am sure there will be unique bugs and unique features for both suites. Do you realize we are talking about

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request

2010-10-05 Thread RGB ES
There is also a brainstorm section on kde forums: http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#cat83 several ideas implemented on recent kde versions where first discussed ther e 2010/10/5 henke54 henk...@gmail.com: Wouldn't it be better to 'implement' something like http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

Re: [tdf-discuss] New GUI for OOo/Libreoffice....

2010-10-02 Thread RGB ES
RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com Hello all! I would love to see a new toolbar that works as quick style selector/style status. Right now you can only see the paragraph style on one place (format toolbar) and the page style on other (status bar) and it is not possible to know which character style