Re: [Emc-developers] Odd eBay Ad.

2017-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2017 08:50 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 April 2017 at 02:27, andy pugh wrote: >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191916464359 >> >> This bothers me. > On Amazon too. is this legitimate? > > Well, we don't have a copyright on the material, do we? I notice "by the LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-developers] won't start on line 310 (run from here)

2017-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/05/2017 03:56 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, Debian Wheezy latest linuxcnc release - installed today - but the last release did the same thing Axis interface Kasuga 3 axis mill when starting (run from here) on line 310 I get the error "length of cutter compensation entry move is

Re: [Emc-developers] open-ness of PathPilot ?

2017-09-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/12/2017 11:37 PM, Kurt Jacobson wrote: Hello Jon, It is certainly possible to used PathPilot on non Tormach machines and with hardware other than mesa. In fact, it is quite strait forward to do so, and that is coming from a Linux and LinuxCNC newby. As far as I can tell PathPilot is

[Emc-developers] open-ness of PathPilot ?

2017-09-12 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, A guy contacted me and said he wanted to use PathPilot with Pico Systems hardware, rather than Mesa. He says that this is not possible, and that PathPilot will not run with stock LinuxCNC, and required Mesa hardware to "unlock" it. This is all news to me. Does anyone have any

[Emc-developers] snubber power dissipation

2017-08-23 Thread Jon Elson
Wow, I have made a big screw-up. My PWM servo amps have RC snubber networks on the junction between the high-side source and low-side drains (output terminals) of the half-bridges. The current values are 10 Ohms and 4700 pF. I have a guy who wanted to run 160 V DC supply. All the parts are

Re: [Emc-developers] snubber power dissipation

2017-08-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/24/2017 07:33 AM, Petr Ledvina wrote: It was meant for current PCB, placing 2 resistors instead of one (one end of resistors SMD pad, second connected 'in air') .. My pick and place machine doesn't know how to do this. I will be replacing some of the resistors by hand, for the

Re: [Emc-developers] snubber power dissipation

2017-08-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/23/2017 01:01 PM, Petr Ledvina wrote: John, One way to improve power dissipation a bit is to mount two resistors in series instead of one, forming inverted V ... It's not that ugly and will add some margin to available power dissipation.. I might do that for the next PCB revision. Right

Re: [Emc-developers] snubber power dissipation

2017-08-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/23/2017 09:09 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 08/23/2017 01:27 PM, John Kasunich wrote: Numerical integration is unnecessary. Energy stored in a cap is 1/2*C*V^2, for 160V and 4700pF that is 60uJ. Times 100K events per second is 6W. Thanks so much for the analytical solution

[Emc-developers] time issues (a bit OT)

2017-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I have an everything-server here that runs an old version of Ubuntu LinuxCNC, mostly for historical (hysterical??) reasons. Kernel is 2.6.32-122-rtai I just had to replace the hardware due to the old one getting flaky. The new one is a Dell Optiplex 980 with an Intel i5 CPU,

Re: [Emc-developers] time issues (a bit OT)

2017-11-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/29/2017 09:58 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And this is from a *buntu repo? Worth a squawk on the *buntu mailing list IMO. Well, it is Ubuntu 10.08, and I think they have shut the repos down (or moved them to someplace else with archive in the name.) Early boards were pretty bad, if you

Re: [Emc-developers] time issues (a bit OT)

2017-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/29/2017 05:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But there is still, in my wheezy listings, adjtimex, Thanks! This looks interesting, but the Ubuntu software installer says it is from an untrusted source, and will not install it. I did not find any way to override that squawk, you click OK and

Re: [Emc-developers] FlipFlop

2017-11-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/16/2017 09:08 AM, andy pugh wrote: Someone on the forum has noticed that the output pin of the Flipflop component is of IO type This seems slightly odd. (It is a compnent that has had very little attention)

Re: [Emc-developers] linuxcnc VCP Discussions

2017-11-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/21/2017 07:44 PM, andy pugh wrote: The Glade editor is far from stable, I will agree, but the panels seem solid to me. I've found Glade to work well for creating a new panel/screen/whatever. But, it doesn't work well at ALL when going back in and making major changes. Possibly I just

Re: [Emc-developers] FlipFlop

2017-11-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/16/2017 10:58 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: At the risk of showing my age, I think you could do this on some early (RTL) hardware flip flops... Yes, any FF that pre-dates the master-slave FF will be able to be set or cleared by jamming the output. Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] INI edit from inside gui

2017-11-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/02/2017 07:42 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: I do a lot of upgrades to Chinese routers from their controller to Mach3. I have been using an Atom type mother board for the last five years together with a detuned Windows XP installation. It is always a parallel port driver installation. I

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/09/2018 08:06 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, A really strange problem has just been reported in the hal_ppmc.c driver. Let me set the stage a bit, first. A few users run multiple Universal Stepper Controllers or Universal PWM Controllers on one parallel port. The boards have

[Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-09 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, A really strange problem has just been reported in the hal_ppmc.c driver. Let me set the stage a bit, first. A few users run multiple Universal Stepper Controllers or Universal PWM Controllers on one parallel port. The boards have a "daisy-chain" option where the 2nd board can

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/09/2018 09:28 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 08:06:02PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Can somebody give me some instructions so I can find exactly what changes were made between the 2.7.8 release and the 2.7.9 release? The git history REALLY doesn't show any other changes. git

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2018 06:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 10 May 2018 at 04:55, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote: I can't match this commit with your 1b7feb83 That commit shows up as de7bbf4 in github. 1b7feb83 is https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
Wow, thanks, guys for locating the source of the trouble! Geez, I have two variables with the SAME name! I can't imagine how this bug hasn't come up for a whole year! I wish I could just say I was drunk when I coded that, but I wasn't. How embarrassing. Of course, as long as you only have

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-05-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/11/2018 09:20 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 09:11:17PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Wow, thanks, guys for locating the source of the trouble! Geez, I have two variables with the SAME name! I can't imagine how this bug hasn't come up for a whole year! I wish I could just say I

Re: [Emc-developers] Instability in current 2.8.pre1

2018-05-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/28/2018 10:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: At that point it was locked, but did after several seconds, clear a spot at the bottom right like it was preparing to write a few jillion "can't do that" messages, But it never got even the first character written to the screen. Hmmm, that sounds a

Re: [Emc-developers] and now how to push?

2018-06-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/24/2018 08:52 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I think I have the stupid error in hal_ppmc.c fixed, now I'm trying to push the commit back to the master repo. So, I have pushed this fix to master. Is there anything I (or somebody else) needs to do to get it in line for the next 2.7 release, also

Re: [Emc-developers] debian wheezy parport issues

2018-06-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/25/2018 08:47 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 06/25/2018 12:57 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 June 2018 at 17:07, Jon Elson wrote: On 2.8.0~pre1 (I think I get this on 2.7.14 also) any config that accesses the parallel port produces an error message on the Axis screen: Using the hal_parport

Re: [Emc-developers] debian wheezy parport issues

2018-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 2.8.0~pre1 (I think I get this on 2.7.14 also) any config that accesses the parallel port produces an error message on the Axis screen: linux parallel port @57360 not found 57360 decimal does equal 0xe010, which is my parport address so it is just printing it as decimal, but why does it

Re: [Emc-developers] debian wheezy parport issues

2018-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/25/2018 12:57 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 June 2018 at 17:07, Jon Elson wrote: On 2.8.0~pre1 (I think I get this on 2.7.14 also) any config that accesses the parallel port produces an error message on the Axis screen: Using the hal_parport driver or using the ppmc driver? It does

[Emc-developers] debian wheezy parport issues

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
I have installed Debian Wheezy following the instructions in : http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html This shows as LinuxCNC 2.7.14 And then tried to get the basic software stepper config working, from by_interface/parport/stepper and I set the parport

[Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-22 Thread Jon Elson
Finally have the decks cleared so I can work on the horrible mess I made in hal_ppmc.c So, I have a new computer with PCIe slots, so I can demonstrate the problem, and I did a fresh install of LinuxCNC, and then cloned the git repository. Now, I think this is just a plain source checkout, not

Re: [Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/23/2018 04:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 23 June 2018 at 05:03, Jon Elson wrote: Can somebody give me the steps to make a developer checkout so I can commit the fix back when I get it right? I know some of the git stuff has changed. https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url

Re: [Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/23/2018 12:19 AM, Kurt Jacobson wrote: Jon, A git clone is a git clone. Since you copied your SSH keys over you should be good to go, assuming your SSH pub keys have been added to github. I don't think you have commited for about a year, i.e. since the transition to MS github, so maybe

Re: [Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
Well, I don't know what I am doing wrong, but there definitely is something. This is a Dell Optiplex 7010 system with Intel i3 CPU. I just reloaded the whole system with the iso file I downloaded in April. It shows the kernel as : 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 3.4.55 LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
OK, followed the directions here : http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html section 7.1 (Installing on Debian Wheezy) one small nit, when you do step 8 : sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://linuxcnc.org/ wheezy base 2.7-uspace" You get command not found. I had to

Re: [Emc-developers] debian wheezy parport issues

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
OK, further info. On this Wheezy-preempt system, kernel messages from RT components do NOT show up in dmesg! But, if you run LinuxCNC from the command line, these messages from RT components/drivers do show up in the standard output. So, although I get the par port not found error, the ppmc

[Emc-developers] and now how to push?

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
I think I have the stupid error in hal_ppmc.c fixed, now I'm trying to push the commit back to the master repo. It asks for username for https://github.com, and I THINK I'm entering the right username (jmelson) and taking a guess at the password, but I get fatal: Authentication failed Do I

Re: [Emc-developers] need to set up new developer checkout

2018-06-23 Thread Jon Elson
Ugh, things are not going well. So far, this is a stock build from source (plus the default binary load from the .iso download.) So, when I run the binary version 2.7.14 with a NetMos PCIe parport card, it does not communicate properly, as expected. If I put in the epp_dir=1 option on the

Re: [Emc-developers] and now how to push?

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/24/2018 09:58 PM, Kurt Jacobson wrote: Jon, That should work, but I think your password may be wrong. IIRC if you try to push to a repo you don't have push access to it gives a permission denied error instead of an authentication error. You could try logging into your account at

Re: [Emc-developers] strange problem in the hal_ppmc.c driver

2018-06-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/11/2018 09:20 AM, Chris Radek wrote: Yay! I'm glad you got it. I recommend putting the fix on the 2.7 branch. That way it will be in the next bugfix release, and also get merged into master. Well, I ended up pushing the fix to master. Can you tell me how to put it on the 2.7

Re: [Emc-developers] new build on stretch

2018-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/06/2018 07:37 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 7 January 2018 at 01:32, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote: Does anybody have a list of packages and any other helpful info for building LinuxCNC on stretch? I'm OK with building from source. I tend to do this:(dpkg-checkbuilddeps)

[Emc-developers] new build on stretch

2018-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
So, I am setting up a new server, to comply with requirements to update TLS encryption, among other things. I want to start with a modern kernel, so I don't have to do this too often. So, I have installed debian stretch with the rt-preempt kernel. I thought I saw a list somewhere on LinuxCNC

[Emc-developers] 64 bit LinuxCNC possible

2018-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
I have built a system running a 64-bit Debian 8 (Jessie), and have the preempt RT kernel running. Is it possible to put LinuxCNC (non-simulation) on this? Is there a pre-compiled binary, or would it have to be compiled from source? This machine sits right next to my test bench, so it would

Re: [Emc-developers] Probe result parameters (5061-5069)

2018-07-27 Thread Jon Elson
Here's a routine I use that probes the "lower left" corner of a part. So, the probe is on the -X -Y corner. It backs away a little in -X and then quickly probes in the +X direction, then backs off and repeats at a much slower speed, and then sets #1001 to the offset between the probed position

Re: [Emc-developers] Removing myself from the LinuxCNC decision-making process

2018-08-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/27/2018 08:02 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I have to correct this wrong date: And, of course, John Kasunich's development of HAL completely broke the stasis that EMC was stuck in around ** 2005 ** Jon -- Check out

Re: [Emc-developers] Removing myself from the LinuxCNC decision-making process

2018-08-27 Thread Jon Elson
r instance, I fondly remember two events in particular from the CNC Workshops I attended in Galesburg: 1) We're all sitting at the pizza place, and Jon Elson and John Kasunich are both trying to out-do the other with stories about mishaps with power electronics. I've still got nothing on even the tame

Re: [Emc-developers] TYPO in export hal parameter name in ppmc driver

2018-09-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/06/2018 11:13 AM, Les Newell wrote: An option would be to have both ppmc.0.dout.03-invert and ppmc.0.dout.03.invert with a note in the docs that ppmc.0.dout.03-invert is deprecated and will be removed in the future. Code wise it's ugly but you won't end up breaking anyone's configs.

Re: [Emc-developers] Breakout of HAL/ machinekits's HAL

2018-09-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/08/2018 07:27 PM, Chris Morley wrote: Jon I'm not sure where they are at with replacing NML, but that is not what I was talking of. They have split the cnc stack from the HAL stack HAL is what I am talking of, which would include the realtime code I suppose. Anybody, NOW, can download

Re: [Emc-developers] Breakout of HAL/ machinekits's HAL

2018-09-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/08/2018 02:05 PM, Chris Morley wrote: There are very smart and hard working people on both projects, it would be nice to benefit both projects. I _THINK_ that the biggest thing they have done is to replace NML with 0mq. While I don't know the details at all, NML ships the

Re: [Emc-developers] Breakout of HAL/ machinekits's HAL

2018-09-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/09/2018 12:23 AM, Chris Morley wrote: The possibility of moving our realtime system with the modern trends seems important to at least consider. Well, the ability to interconnect multiple instances of LinuxCNC seems like it could be useful in a lot of special applications,

[Emc-developers] TYPO in export hal parameter name in ppmc driver

2018-09-06 Thread Jon Elson
OUCH, I just found a typo in the hal_ppmc.c driver, most likely it has been there since John Kasunich wrote it in 2005. Now, I have to decide how to fix it. So, for the PPMC DIO (the specific analog interface) and for the Universal Stepper and PWM controller extra digital outputs, the

Re: [Emc-developers] problems with stretch/uspace install

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/04/2018 02:58 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 4 July 2018 at 20:16, Jon Elson wrote: dpkg-checkbuilddeps asks for unmet build dependencies rtai-modules-4.9.0-5-rt-686-pae If it is asking for RTAI modules on a preempt-rt kernel then I suspect that your pre-build configuration was wrong. I

Re: [Emc-developers] problems with stretch/uspace install

2018-07-05 Thread Jon Elson
Are there up-to-date release notes for LinuxCNC? There is a release notes file in the Wiki, but the last entry is February 2016 (2.7.4)! There seems to be some incompatibility with my configs files sets and the 2.8 release, and I need to make whatever changes are required. I see a lot of

Re: [Emc-developers] problems with stretch/uspace install

2018-07-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/05/2018 12:32 PM, Dewey Garrett wrote: In <5b3e4726.5080...@pico-systems.com> Jon Elson writes: Any suggestions? docs section on updating 2.7 to master (2.8~pre): http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html Thanks, this is what I was looking for

Re: [Emc-developers] Is there a jessie install for x86 stuff in the near future?

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/04/2018 04:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 3 July 2018 at 23:41, Gene Heskett wrote: Since wheezy has been EOL'd back on June 30, I am wondering when we'll have a jessie install respin available? Are you aware of the Debian Stretch (Preempt-rt) install ISO?

[Emc-developers] problems with stretch/uspace install

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
I made a DVD and the latency was amazing, 3 us with abuse (glxgears, obscuring/revealing windows, etc.) Then, I installed to the hard drive, and the latency was 10 us with the same level of abuse. That was unexpected, but still not too bad. So, then I got the source for master, and went

[Emc-developers] Hardinge CHNC retrofit

2018-03-14 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, A friend locally has arranged to buy a Hardinge CHNC-I for a manufacturing project. I know a few people here have retrofitted these machines. This one has a General Numerics control, but it seems to have Parker servo amps and MTS brushless motors. I'm guessing these may not be

Re: [Emc-developers] Hardinge CHNC retrofit

2018-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/15/2018 08:54 AM, Ed wrote: On 03/14/2018 08:16 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, A friend locally has arranged to buy a Hardinge CHNC-I for a manufacturing project. I know a few people here have retrofitted these machines. This one has a General Numerics control, but it seems to have

[Emc-developers] in halshow, what are the units of the time display ?

2018-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, When displaying the time used by peal rime tasks, what are the units? Are they ns, or timer ticks? Some of the numbers for this time seem to be much too high, for example, using up 908000 on a 1 ms thread. I'd expect that to make the system very unstable and the GUI terribly

[Emc-developers] Axis limits Fnn to two digits in MDI ?

2018-03-16 Thread Jon Elson
One of my users says he has run into an issue with Axis, that he can only enter a value up to 99 when entering the feedrate in MDI mode. This seems like this might be a big issue for metric users, I've never run into it as my machine tops out at 72 IPM. After fixing some other things in the

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/11/2018 07:54 AM, andy pugh wrote: It looks like PyGTK is dead. (pygtk.org forwards to pygobject) Last release was 7 years ago. This might explain why no support or help is available. Should we start to deprecate GladeVCP? Arrgh! Well, we certainly need a replacement for it if it

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: About GoObject and other the language structure is pretty similar to c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all other languages? GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided

Re: [Emc-developers] [jbi...@debian.org: Update on removing obsolete GNOME libraries & gtk2 MBF]

2018-11-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/28/2018 07:23 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: .. which is likely, in turn, to affect LinuxCNC. Those interested should look at modernizing the parts of LinuxCNC that still use gtk2. I know this still includes halscope and halmeter. it would be a real pity to lose halscope to CADTs^Wthe

Re: [Emc-developers] Breakout of HAL/ machinekits's HAL

2018-09-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/12/2018 03:34 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: What is wrong with NML? If it doesn't have some needed process is it not able to be extended? The problem, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, is that NML treats the entire real time state of the system as one atomic block. Works fine on any system with one

Re: [Emc-developers] raspberry/arduino driver - include in LinuxCNC?

2019-02-26 Thread Jon Elson
at the moment, the raspberry can drive 5-6kHz with an unpatched and 10-12kHz with a patched stepgen. (and I think, much more is possible) I want a cheap and easy to get and easy to handle IO-device. not only for mills and other machines. for education this also may be interesting. Not really

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-02-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/28/2019 05:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Impressively made but I expect the pricing is well plus of a renishaw. The one I bought was $68. Well, in fact I paid $69 for mine, without the IR transceiver and controller board that must have been left in the machine. I got it from a pawn shop

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-02-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/27/2019 07:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: But repeated measurements require I add about 2 counts to the scale value for every repeated measurement done that way, and I've added around 20 counts trying to catch up. In a 16750 count, 20 is not that much. This is not a MATH problem. I'm

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-02-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/28/2019 05:04 PM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: I have a cheap ebay $100 probe. I had doubts about the accuracy, so I perfomed a test probing a precision disc from all orientations. (The disc came from a 1"-2" micrometer - it is used to "zero" the micrometer). The results were pretty poor,

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-03-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/28/2019 10:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Jon, have you considered setting a digital caliper to say .2500" and locking it, then clamping it down well enough it won't slip while you probe its gap. I homemade a ring with a pretty good inside bore, but it is not as good as a real inside mike

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-03-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/01/2019 05:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just hooked mine up, pretty bad, and so eccentric, around .125" of wobble at the ball Doesn't it have some screws to center it? Mine has 4 radial setscrews that center the probe body on the arbor. I tweaked them until I got a consistent reading

Re: [Emc-developers] got math problem I can't check in backplot

2019-02-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/27/2019 08:57 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Every Renishaw probe I have used has had to have the spindle oriented when probing. Otherwise I could not trust the results. Try the probe. It will measure much better than .005. Yes, the docs from Blum for their probe have a comparison between

Re: [Emc-developers] raspberry/arduino driver - include in LinuxCNC?

2019-02-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/26/2019 10:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 14:24, wrote: the driver works (with both devices). but is not ready and not optimized. at the moment, the raspberry can drive 5-6kHz with an unpatched and 10-12kHz with a patched stepgen. (and I think, much more is possible) If

Re: [Emc-developers] removal of gedit as default editor

2019-03-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/17/2019 09:15 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 at 13:51, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Do not know if I like emacs but it seems to stick forever. Emacs is a "heavyweight" editor. It pulls in so many language support libraries that it takes a long time to load. It used to take a

Re: [Emc-developers] removal of gedit as default editor

2019-03-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/17/2019 12:49 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Or maybe upon first use in LinuxCNC a box would pop up to allow the choice of available editors. Yup, as long as that is a once-only script that replaces itself once a selection is made, that would be very good! Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] removal of gedit as default editor

2019-03-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/17/2019 11:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 17 March 2019 11:39:05 Jon Elson wrote: On 03/17/2019 09:15 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 at 13:51, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Do not know if I like emacs but it seems to stick forever. Emacs is a "heavyweight&qu

Re: [Emc-developers] backups

2019-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/21/2019 09:59 AM, Moses McKnight wrote: I don't have it doing rotations over a number of days but just a simple backup right now. I do need to look at amanda or something and get something a little better set up in case I delete something and decide I need it 3 days later! A simple

Re: [Emc-developers] removal of gedit as default editor

2019-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/20/2019 12:40 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gedit scrambled a few files for me a few years ago. The next update seemed to have fixed it and I have had no problems for a while. I did start working on a copy only. That kept Murphy at bay. Good and frequent backups are a GOOD thing! Even if

Re: [Emc-developers] probably an un-answerable question

2019-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/20/2019 08:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: The little 8 oz plastic coke bottle can handle how many psi? I'm thinking of poking 2 holes in the lid, one to let the pressure in from the air valve, and one to get the coolant back out of the bottle. The pressure could easily be 30+ psi in the coke

Re: [Emc-developers] need a manpage for boot.comp

2019-02-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/08/2019 03:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings Jon; I need a man page for the boot module. And an example piece of hal showing how its used. Well, I didn't write it, I think I saw the code a long time ago, maybe I got it from another user and sent it to you. (I assume you are

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Release planning

2019-05-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/30/2019 10:47 AM, Moses McKnight wrote: I'm thinking we should give a couple of weeks (depending of course on if we can get the work done) to get the initial stuff done and then make an rc1 release candidate. Then wait a couple of weeks or so to see if anything critical turns up. If

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC 2.8 branch created: important info for developers

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/02/2019 10:01 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: In general, changes that don't break existing configurations and don't risk destabilizing working setups can go in stable branches. OK, so what should I do for adding comments in the .hal files? These would be applicable to all 2.7

Re: [Emc-developers] trying to make a buildbot out of my sheldon's pi3b

2019-06-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2019 04:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: fatal: fsync error on '/media/slash/buildbot/linuxcnc-dev/.git/objects/pack/tmp_pack_dREvWb': Input/output error Yikes, that may indicate a bad memory device. Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] trying to make a buildbot out of my sheldon's pi3b

2019-06-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2019 09:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 10 June 2019 09:43:25 pm Jon Elson wrote: On 06/10/2019 04:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: fatal: fsync error on '/media/slash/buildbot/linuxcnc-dev/.git/objects/pack/tmp_pack_dREvW b': Input/output error Yikes, that may indicate a bad memory

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
If the Wiki is actually going to be abandoned, then I would very much like to get some important pages off it. I have no backup of a number of pages I wrote or contributed to. I assumed the Wiki was being maintained and backed up by . I would again like to emphasize there is a lot of info

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
I found a few references to this error message with instructions on how to fix it. Apparently a known problem. https://github.com/ericvaandering/DocDB/issues/12 https://github.com/kjolley/BIGSdb/issues/288 Thanks, Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/06/2019 09:34 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:00:38PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Thank you! Now, there were some grumblings about the Wiki being outdated and useless. Is that actually the feeling in general? I hope not, but maybe we need to clean up some of the obsolete

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2019 04:30 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 06:49, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: at http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/ Can't locate object method "startform" via package "CGI" at wiki.pl line 1501. Where does the Wiki live? Much of it is so outdated and wrong perhaps it is best not to

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/05/2019 12:15 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 5 May 2019, at 11:42, Gene Heskett wrote: Information I have found extremely useful, please restore it. The error page says to email webmas...@wiki.linuxcnc.org Has anyone tried doing that? ___ Yes,

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] web site error

2019-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/05/2019 03:40 PM, Chris Radek wrote: With Stephen's help I finally got access to the machine and then was able to patch it up. There were several confounding problems due to upgrades at the hosting site, one of which was that my ssh key was in an old format that has been deprecated. I

Re: [Emc-developers] Update to lowpass.comp

2019-08-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/17/2019 03:11 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 17 Aug 2019, at 16:23, Moses McKnight wrote: g. It also adds optional integer inputs and outputs (useful for MPGs) and scaling. There is already ilowpass for MPGs. Not that that necessarily means that adding it to lowpass is a bad idea.

Re: [Emc-developers] my keyboard problem has returned

2019-08-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/05/2019 11:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Because its handier than bottled beer, right here in front of me, its also the home of my card reader when its in use. The mouse keeps on working, with data from the same usb dongle. There was a fairly common bug some time ago where plugging a USB

Re: [Emc-developers] my keyboard problem has returned

2019-08-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/05/2019 03:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Last evening I lost keyboard response again, but with this keyboard the intergrated mouse, using the same dongle, continued to work. And the fix is simple with this keyboard, unplug the dongle and count to 5, plug it back in. Is this a device that

[Emc-developers] Any way to control Fanuc spindle drive ?

2019-11-13 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, I have a customer that has a Fanuc Alpha 3 spindle motor with Fanuc A06B-6064-H303 spindle drive. Does anyone know how to control these? It seems to have a differential serial interface. (These may actually be fiber optic transceivers.) Thanks for any info that can be provided. Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] Intel graphics and RTAI

2019-12-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/14/2019 02:38 PM, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: Hi everyone, Are people more willing to risk possibly higher latency with RTAI to use Intel integrated graphics to save them the trouble of using FBDEV or VESA drivers? If so, I can re-enable these Kconfig options. If you haven't had

Re: [Emc-developers] Intel graphics and RTAI

2019-12-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/15/2019 04:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Folder indexing doesn't always stop. The beep is not thru the audio, but from the pc's own 2" speaker. I guess thats so its not muted when the rest of the sound is. Cheers, Gene Heskett I'm guessing the motherboard beep driver is not compatible

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.7.15 PID Fix

2020-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/03/2020 09:22 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: No, command-deriv is only used for the FF1 feedforward calculation But, I DO use FF1 in practically all my configs, and it does seem to work. So, the problem is linking a signal to the command-deriv pin, but then NOT feeding it the correct

[Emc-developers] Pico Systems ppmc driver does not show up in some locations of the docs

2020-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
Mostly to John T., I note that there is an entry in the docs under "Hardware Drivers" for "Pico Drivers", but no entries under "HAL component List" where other drivers are listed. I guess it really only needs one line to list that the PPMC driver supports the PPMC (analog servo interface),

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.7.15 PID Fix

2020-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2020 02:14 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 18:07, Peter C. Wallace wrote: I meant the patch that made the command derivative behavior match the feedback derivative behavior (and the manual), that was quite recent. Ah, sorry. I thought you were explaining the statement

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.7.15 PID Fix

2020-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/03/2020 10:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: We are seeing a number of issues reported to the forum where the fix to the PID command-deriv input is causing problems with existing configurations that net that pin to a signal that is not otherwise connected to a source. Should we consider a 2.7.16

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.7.15 PID Fix

2020-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
Looking at the 2.7 docs for the PID component, there is no mention of a pid.n.command-deriv pin. There is a commandD and a commandDD which seem to be outputs available when the debug mode is turned on. Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.7.15 PID Fix

2020-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/03/2020 10:54 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 16:50, Jon Elson wrote: Does anybody have a more specific case of how it is failing? https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/38367-2-7-15?start=0 So, the pid command-deriv was not used in the past? Geez

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 problem

2020-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2020 05:33 AM, andy pugh wrote: Rigid tapping and threading reset at the start of the cycle, so are probably OK. Ahh, but that led to a bunch of confusion years ago, when the 32-bit extended software bits of the 24-bit hardware counter was not properly zeroed out when the index reset

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 problem

2020-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2020 12:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Neither do I, even the big cinci's x shouldn't, but I've got an encoder on the G0704 that could on a long enough job, the scale in low gear is effectively a bit over 14,000/rev in low gear. Question is, would I recognize the blip when it did over

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