Re: [Finale] Message which didn't make it to the list

2002-04-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:18 PM 4/16/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: what we need and what almost everyone in music needs is a program that produces professional looking copy right out of the box in an intuitive manner that anyone can quickly learn. No tweaking. No default file fiddling around. [...] John, If

Re: [Finale] ot, was Re: Thoughts on Mac-Sibelius 2.0

2002-04-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:08 PM 4/16/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: The Eudora Light version I'm using is from 1995, so I guess that's what you would call very old. Yup. I still have it on my 1997-vintage laptop. But no need to upgrade! In 1.5.4, Shift+Reply toggles to Reply and Reply to All. :) Hopefully, the new

Re: [Finale] Word and Finale? Possible?

2002-04-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:17 AM 4/16/02 -0700, Harold Owen wrote: The way I have done it: In Finale choose the Graphics Tool, in Page View, double-click and drag a box around the music you want to import into Word. Choose Export Selection from the menu. In the dialog box that appears, choose EPS from the

Re: [Finale] filter out those hude digests!

2002-04-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:36 PM 4/17/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: I hate to keep harping on my email reader My only reason for suggesting the use of an interface like mail2web.com is that it obviates the need to change email clients for a temporary situation like this one. I have mail in Eudora mailboxes since

Re: [Finale] TAN: Mac OS question

2002-05-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:39 AM 5/19/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Virtual Memory means that some of what the computer keeps in it's RAM is temporarily stored on your hard disk to make room for more applications. This way the memory that your computer can address can be extended. OS 9 is not very good in doing

Re: [Finale] Finale Porn

2002-05-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:19 PM 5/19/02 -0500, Doug Auwarter wrote: Yep, I got it too. And this was the first time anyone had invaded any of my list/serves. I have no idea how to prevent it, though. Anyone? They've been coming through on all my active lists (AlgoComp, CECDiscuss, Coco, etc.). Solutions: 1. Close

Re: [Finale] Finale Porn (fwd)

2002-05-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:42 PM 5/20/02 -0400, warren heck wrote: For dealing with spam I have set up an account with spamcop.net.. Please do not use spamcop. They are a vigilante group with no policing over them. I almost had my account canceled because spamcop does not pursue the validity of claims, and it was a

Re: [Finale] TAN - Help with class curricula

2002-05-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:44 PM 5/23/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Mr. Orwell, there's a package from Mr. Burns and Mr. Marsalis for you at the front desk. George Orwell to the front counter, please. Indeed. I thought I was the only one who felt the Burns series had a gaping hole in its contemporary

[Finale] F2K3: beaming across barlines?

2002-05-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, I looked at the features for beaming across barlines. Is it still a workaround? Anybody know? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Beaming across barlines problem

2002-06-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:36 PM 6/2/02 -0700, you wrote: One of these days Coda will give us simpler ways of accomplishing this - or maybe one of our plug-in artists will provide one that will accomplish it for us. Please, a plug-in of some kind. I have been asking for this since Finale 2.2, and that's just about

Re: [Finale] Beaming across barlines problem

2002-06-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:14 PM 6/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: what I did was turn the quarter note before and the one after into and eighth as a tuplet (ie, one 8th in the time of two 8ths). That gives me a beam to work with, then I used the beam extension tool to move the beams over. Note that with this method

Re: [Finale] Beaming across barlines problem

2002-06-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:36 PM 6/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: The method that I used (and described in the earlier post) works across a system break, and makes no difference to the playback. Didn't you say you used a portion of a tuplet and hid the rest? Wouldn't that leave you with a sonic gap, especially if

Re: [Finale] Back to basics.

2002-06-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:36 PM 6/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: A new feature that I *don't* like is that typing a number when the cursor is on a note that is already of that value will add a note to the chord. Yes, this is absolutely maddening. When creating tuplets, I might skip the CTRL feature because I'm

Re: [Finale] Beam Over Barline

2002-06-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:20 PM 6/3/02 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Okay you beamers, the beta version of Beam Over Barline is at my website. It currently has no settings, so what you see is what you get. You don't know, you just don't know. You can't know. Even the system breaks work. One little thing to

Re: [Finale] Back to basics.

2002-06-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:31 PM 6/3/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: Speaking of which, how about that business whereby when you move too far into the ledger lines the staff gets displaced vertically and *stays that way*? As far as I can tell, *everyone* hates that. Is that deliberate or related to the bug where the

Re: [Finale] Back to basics.

2002-06-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:08 AM 6/5/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: Unfortunately, when I send it to Coda, they say they can't reproduce it on any of their systems and it must have something to do with my computer being so old. Ah. My system is an optimized DAW with 1.4GHz Athon and 512MB memory running Win98SE, and

Re: [Finale] It's here!

2002-06-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:17 PM 6/7/02 -0400, you wrote: I've never received this sort of e-mail from Finale, and I've been upgrading since 3.7 I have. I know since I packrat everything. :) For example, here's my auto-email from Finale 2K2: Your Order has been processed and shipped via FDX Order Date: 10/25/2001

Re: [Finale] File formats - security anyone - copying or not

2002-06-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:38 AM 6/18/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: I don't know how copyright laws work in your country, but you can expressly place the music in the public domain in the United States by placing a statement to that effect in place of the normal copyright notice. Can you cite the law on this?

Re: [Finale] File formats - security anyone - copying or not

2002-06-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:55 PM 6/18/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 18.06.2002 12:31 Uhr, Paul Delcour wrote No one should be obliged to give their music away for free. That is indeed my choice. I do not expect anyone to be prepared to pay for it. But current laws state that copyright remains after death

Re: [Finale] Recording/web sites(long). was pdf etc.

2002-06-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:41 PM 6/18/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: I may be wrong, but I think work for hire as applied to composition and performances is unique to the USA. It certainly doesn't exist in that form in Canada. One actually has to specifically give up one's rights to the employer in written

Re: [Finale] Macro program for Finale (with Windows 95).

2002-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:14 AM 6/23/02 +1000, Michael Edwards wrote: Well, it's Windows 95, actually. My laptop is about 4 years old (I.B.M. ThinkPad 770 ED), so it would seem from something David Fenton said that there was little point in upgrading Windows while still using an older computer - but I could do

Re: [Finale] OT LONG: help with adult student

2002-06-24 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:00 AM 6/22/02 -0700, Linda Worsley wrote: So here's my question: (at last) Faced with this daunting task, what would you do? I've been following this for a few days, because I had a student exactly like this -- very successful in another field (law), motivated, self-starter, etc -- with

RE: [Finale] Patterson website

2002-06-26 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:08 AM 6/26/02 -0500, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: Please offer an alternative payment plan through a more trustworthy system than PayPal (like Kagi or Digital River). PayPal gives me the heebie jeebies and I want nothing to do with anything associated with eBay. Eh? I've used them all, but

Re: [Finale] 3 against 4 TAN

2002-06-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:34 PM 6/30/02 -0400, you wrote: Tap one hand on syllables 1, 2, 4, and 6; tap the other hand on syllables 1, 5, and 6. Instant 3 against 4. Pass the goddamn butter is irregular the way I say it (quarter-eighth triplet, two quarters, two eighths) unless you add a rest at the end and

Re: [Finale] Re: 3 against 4 TAN

2002-07-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:38 PM 7/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: Maybe it's different on the East Coast. Prolly. Mathmattix. Like Phadelphia. I said em both. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: 3 against 4 TAN

2002-07-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:34 AM 7/3/02 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: Maybe it's different on the East Coast. Prolly. Mathmattix. Like Phadelphia. I said em both. As one who lives there, I can assure you it's Fluffya. Ah, you see, I lived in Trenton (Tren) from 1969-78 (across the street from Sylvester Stallone's

Re: [Finale] EPS Export Question

2002-07-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:10 PM 7/4/02 -0400, you wrote: The platform is PC for Finale and Word, where the documents to go to the PROFESSIONAL GRAPHIC DESIGNER are produced. I don't used EPS anymore, because I prefer to use PDF, and most print houses are fine with that these days. But I have produced EPS when

Re: [Finale] EPS Export Question

2002-07-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:10 PM 7/4/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: the PostScript that Finale produces being non-portable unless you do special tweaks. I assumed that the problems with the PS export would also be present in the EPS production (perhaps wrongly). In re-reading, I see you are using the term

Re: [Finale] EPS Export Question

2002-07-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:19 PM 7/4/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Where does the OwnPS=0 option go? Finale.ini? What section should I put it in? Settings. In any event, the user in question has a post-2000 version of Finale (I'm not sure which), so WinFin97 is really only my issue on my personal setup, not

Re: [Finale] Tie end in second ending

2002-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:01 PM 7/5/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Can someone remind me how to add a tie end to the first note of a second ending (ie the it is only attached to the second ending note, not to the last note of the first ending). I use the add slur and drag it backwards kluge. Maybe there's a

Re: [Finale] EPS Export Question

2002-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:42 PM 7/5/02 +0200, Patrick Hubers wrote: If you're printing directly from Finale only, there's no reason to prefer a PS printer, no. However, if you need to print proofs of material that will eventually be rendered by a high resolution typesetter, like a DTP document with embedded

Re: [Finale] Booklet Page Procession

2002-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:43 PM 7/5/02 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Hmmm. According to my math, 72 pages = 18 sheets (each sheet is two pages front back), which results in creep of 0.04 per sheet. But perhaps I have misunderstood what you meant. 72 pages to the *center* of the publication when it's open, without

Re: [Finale] The S word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:44 PM 7/9/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: Anybody else want to deal with their piracy-prevention scheme? Not me! No matter what the price! Absolutely never. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] The S word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:30 AM 7/10/02 +0900, Richard Walker wrote: What's the big deal? You go to their web page, input your information and get the magic number that opens up the program. It's not that onerous, and it's not nearly as ugly, say, as the dongle that Logic makes you attach before it will work. In

Re: [Finale] The S word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:07 AM 7/10/02 +0900, you wrote: My impression is that they are very easy to work with. And when they are out of business? They will be, of course. Then where will your years of work be? And, as I said, what about your archivists, correspondents, or clients? You're a composer; I'm a

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:12 PM 7/9/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: In any event, quadrupling the number of metatool keys isn't exactly user- friendly, since how in the world could one keep track of so many different shortcuts? My own solution is to use only the tools I need for a given score. The ones that are

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:41 AM 7/10/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Very well, but it nonetheless requires multiple instances of a single expression. The Sibelius method of understanding what arco means after a pizzicato and automatically switching to the appropriate patch seems so obviously superior that I

Re: [Finale] The S word again

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
generous? It's your money! Yi yi yi! Maybe you and many other software customers are just used to being treated that way, and have forgotten what it's like not to be a victim. From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have always been philosophically opposed to protection because it treats me

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
All, Thanks to everyone for a *very* illuminating discussion on how Midi is used within scoring. I learned a great deal about different styles. Being an old event list guy, I find everything else ambiguous or hard to remember. But it's refreshing to learn how many different techniques have

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:16 AM 7/11/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: What I really hate, however, is that certain punctuation characters which were available to me in Mac filenames are off limits in Windows filenames! I think this is in keeping with the long tradition of reserved characters. That's why some Mac

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:22 AM 7/11/02 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: OK, I've entered flutes, obs, clars. The General Midi clarinet is TOO LOUD, so, per advice, I go to the MIDI tool, select the staff, choose Continuous Data from the Midi menu and enter controller 7: volume, click OK, choose Percent Alter from

Re: [Finale] Misconceptions about File Names in URIs [ot; Was: The S Word]

2002-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:17 PM 7/11/02 +0200, Peter Castine wrote: Or what are you trying to say? That Mac URLs are often presented with reserved characters -- spaces (for example) instead of %20. That could be the page creator's fault, but there you have it. You shouldn't splutter so much, Peter. You'll have me

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:17 PM 7/11/02 -0700, Philip Aker wrote: I hope Coda has finally decided to stop discriminating against it's long time Macintosh user base in this regard. We Windows users had to slog through *four* versions of Finale to get one that didn't act like a Mac-port stepchild. Even today,

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:35 AM 7/12/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: Is there a way I can remove the My Computer and Neighborhood Network icons from the Desktop. I figured out how to get rid of My Documents, even though I could trash it directly, but the same trick isn't working for these other two. Search for a

Re: [Finale] orchestral efficiency

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:23 PM 7/11/02 -0700, Alain Mayrand wrote: has an unusual format since it has four horn lines, 3 trumpet and trombone lines and, well, you get the picture. Yes. This is one of the great failures of all notation programs ... someone correct me if I'm wrong and this has changed, but I do not

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale] Misconceptions about File Names in URIs [ot]

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:36 PM 7/12/02 +0200, Peter Castine wrote: Windoze file names never contain spaces? Windoze Web Weenies never write broken URIs? I don't know, because the only broken URLs I've encountered have been Mac-originated. Of course that's not even close to definitive. But it might be for a few

Re: [Finale] orchestral efficiency

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:30 AM 7/12/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Oo, TG Tools will solve all your problems. I read the documentation for this feature, and it still doesn't actually solve the issue of tagging a part as a part -- which is, I suppose, an ambiguity deep inside Finale that the plugin can't

Re: [Finale] RE: Orchestral efficiency

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:38 AM 7/12/02 -0700, Linda Worsley wrote: Sure, it would be great if the machines could read our minds or automatically, somehow, understand that the flutes 1 and 2 part should be made into two individual pages, with the correct instrument label, all the a2s and solos etc. intact,

RE: [Finale] RE: Orchestral efficiency

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:13 PM 7/12/02 -0700, Lee Actor wrote: The way I handle this is to make a group out of all staves (divisi, soli, etc.) pertaining to a single part, while instrument changes and the like are handled by staff styles. I think you may already have the tools to accomplish what you want. Yes,

Re: [Finale] The S Word [was: Orchestra MIDI]

2002-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:38 PM 7/12/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: My current problem is that something is turning the auto-arrange back on. I think maybe it's related to a system freeze up I'm getting from one of my other applications. It seems like it's only after I reboot that the icons have re-aligned

Re: [Finale] Wish List

2002-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:06 PM 7/12/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: I'm scared of any application that will actually open up another file on my hard drive and change it without me asking for it. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems like you're just asking for trouble with that. I'd like to see this particular one if it

Re: [Finale] Metatools/type in score (long)

2002-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:26 PM 7/13/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 13.07.2002 12:27 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote Yes, I have used a browser with auto-complete, but I can't recall ever having a list with two identical items on it. What happens when you get to the end of the name and both items are still there?

Re: [Finale] Metatools/type in score (long)

2002-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:04 AM 7/12/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm no MIDI whiz, and have never worked with an expensive string module, so I've never seen a synthesizer that had distinct violin, viola and cello pizzicato patches. General MIDI doesn't have them, it has only the one orchestral pizzicato

Re: [Finale] Metatools/type in score (long)

2002-07-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:53 PM 7/13/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 13 Jul 2002, at 10:27, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:04 AM 7/12/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm no MIDI whiz, and have never worked with an expensive string module, so I've never seen a synthesizer that had distinct violin

Re: [Finale] Wish List

2002-07-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:42 AM 7/14/02 -0400, you wrote: I'm not quite sure what you mean by journalled undo but Finale has the capability to allow undo past save and I believe it also allows you to set the number of undo levels, so that you can conceivably undo everything back to a blank staff that you began a

Re: [Finale] Metatools/type in score (long)

2002-07-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:59 PM 7/14/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: The GM specification has patch 46 for pizzicato strings. I see nothing defective or inadequate in the default interpretation for typing pizz into the scoring being a switch to that patch. It's a step backwards, a dumb-down. Now is the time to

Re: [Finale] Wish List

2002-07-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:59 PM 7/14/02 -0400, you wrote: I think the idea of separate files connected back to the score file is a complete non-starter. I don't. The database can be the master file, and all the other files draw from it or add to it to produce their reports. Putting everything in one file is a

Re: [Finale] Flipped marcato?

2002-07-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:47 AM 7/15/02 -0700, Linda Worsley wrote: By the way, am I hallucinating or are marcato markings like that unusual in piano music? After half a century of looking at piano music, I don't remember seeing those Schoenberg Op 25, measure 1. Dennis

Re: [Finale] Finale wish list

2002-07-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On 15.07.2002 17:26 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote In this situation, I create a set of lyrics in the music font, and adjust the baseline. Dennis I don't understand this, can you explain? I create a line of lyrics in the default notation font (rather than a text font) at 24 point

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI [more more]

2002-07-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
I appreciate all the comments about this ... I know that I fought against Midi implementation 10 years ago, but I've changed my mind entirely. More than entirely. At 10:18 AM 7/16/02 -0700, Linda Worsley wrote: Don't ANY of you remember what it was like to make scores with ink and Ozalid?

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI [more more]

2002-07-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:14 AM 7/17/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: The faint note is probably there, and it is most likely a sum tone, which only are audible in the proper key when the instruments are playing in tune - which is to say NOT in equal temperament as most synths and pianos. Getting the tuning

Re: [Finale] Temporary Pitch Change Indication

2002-07-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:41 PM 7/18/02 +1000, Rodney Waterman wrote: Is there a standard way of indicating the consistent 20 bars of semitone pitch drop? Among the many options, I would choose from these two: 1. If there is only one passage like this, redundantly indicate with a text expression and a dashed line,

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Freakout

2002-09-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:58 PM 9/18/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: If it seems like I'm defensive of the system, it's because I'm a little miffed to see a person who, by his own admission, a week ago had no idea how lyrics work, and by the evidence of his posts still doesn't really understand it, nevertheless has the

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Freakout

2002-09-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:42 AM 9/19/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: OK, but couldn't the same be said about pretty much any feature? Couldn't you say, for example, that speedy entry is an awkward and counterintuitive system and the fact that you and I get good results out of it is evidence only our our flexibility?

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Freakout

2002-09-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:06 PM 9/19/02 -0800, you wrote: - I assume type-in-score still exists. (And if it doesn't, I'm sure many will object.) When you use type-in-score to create a lyric, how does Finale decide where in the text to create the new syllable? Does it add it to the end of the text, or does it insert

Re: [Finale] Printing at a lot of dpi.

2002-09-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:38 PM 9/19/02 -0400, ÉQ==ric Dussault wrote: It makes me laugh when I see 2400 x 2400 inkjet printer. The paper WILL absorb the ink and you will never have the level of details of, let say a HP Laserjet 5000. The latter is generally true, but if you're printing high-quality inkjet images

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Freakout

2002-09-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
it -- and he *does* use lyrics for most of his compositions. He's just not a computer guy, and the current Finale lyrics thing is computerese to him. At 12:08 AM 9/20/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: At 12:19 AM 09/20/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: A hyphen or space would just be a marker processed

Re: [Finale] Help with Soundfonts (TAN)

2002-09-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:23 PM 9/20/02 +0100, Michael Lawlor wrote: Is there a good (step by step) source of information for someone using soundfonts for the very first time, in particular within Finale, if that makes a difference? I have found the help on soundfonts that came with the software (Creative Wave

Re: [Finale] Eps fonts

2002-09-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:28 PM 9/20/02 +0200, d. collins wrote: I still don't understand why TT fonts couldn't be used in an EPS file. I just tried a couple of times in Finale, and Finale simply crashes. I use EPS with TTF. But I use Acrobat Distiller for that, as I never have luck with Finale doing anything by

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Freakout

2002-09-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:10 PM 9/20/02 -0400, you wrote: What was the best thing *before* sliced bread? Semantically speaking, these two blocks of text are equivalent: [snip] Too much redundant text. You don't need it. The whole text pool is: Kyrie eleison Christe eleison (The second eleison is not really

Re: [Finale] Eps fonts

2002-09-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:34 PM 9/21/02 +0200, you wrote: I try this but it's not working for me? Do you change this values on acrobat distiller in printer folder or in acrobat distiller software? There are printer options and job options. I am using Distiller 5, which allows you to save job options -- that's very

Re: pRE: [Finale] Finale Dealers

2002-09-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:17 AM 9/22/02 +0200, Julian Besset wrote: logically the phrase 'brick-and-mortars store' should read 'bricks-and-mortar', or am I wrong ? Logically you're right. But the phrase in commerce is brick-and-mortar store. I've written articles regularly in retail tech trade (at least before the

Re: [Finale] Another thing that's wrong with EDIT LYRICS

2002-09-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:34 PM 9/22/02 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: The PAGE DOWN key doesn't move the cursor! All it does is drive the scrollbar, and this is one of the reasons why I was having so much difficulty losing my place in the EDIT LYRICS window. The implementation of some of the standard Windows

Re: [Finale] TAN: real live users

2002-09-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:59 PM 9/23/02 +1000, One of the McKays wrote: I have been using Finale since 1995, but have never met a person who uses the program *at home.* I have met a few people who use it in schools, though. I'm an independent composer who works at home, in my home office. I've worked in my home

Re: [Finale] Another thing that's wrong with EDIT LYRICS

2002-09-24 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:13 PM 9/24/02 -0700, somebody wrote: Shift, Control, Alt and AltGr (the Alt key on the right) And the Windows and Context Menu keys. Windows+Break, for example, brings up the system properties dialog. The Context Menu key, for now, just does Context Menus as far as I know. The F1-F12

Re: [Finale] Another thing that's wrong with EDIT LYRICS

2002-09-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:49 AM 9/25/02 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: Word processors used to ship with a plastic keyboard slip-over for the function key strip with the English names of the keys. My old WordPerfect for DOS one is sitting here on the shelf as kind of a collectible. It has all 48 versions of F1-F12 in

Re: [Finale] Another thing that's wrong with EDIT LYRICS

2002-09-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:03 AM 9/25/02 -0500, Richard Yates wrote: Like the Gateway tech yesterday who told me that the intermittent flicker on my monitor was caused by the incandescent light near the computer even though the problem occurs whether the light is on or off! G. Ya gotta stop chewing those Penguin

Re: [Finale] I Think My Monitor Just Broke

2002-09-26 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:35 PM 9/26/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: Okay, suddenly and for no apparent reason, my CRT monitor just turned purple. Greens now display as black, so I can only assume that the green electron beam is no longer firing. This is bad, I think. Is my monitor kaput, then? Maybe. There

Re: [Finale] I Think My Monitor Just Broke

2002-09-26 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:44 PM 9/26/02 -0500, Richard Yates wrote: Mine has developed an intermittent flicker/ghosting. Are there any consistent symptoms that distinguish a failing video card from a failing monitor? Nope. And that symptom could be card, cable or monitor. If it's consistent, card is least likely,

Re: [Finale] Measure number regions

2002-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:13 PM 9/27/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: we should coin a new syndrome: Fenton Syndrome -- the syndrome of thinking that your way is the only way and all who don't agree are sick. Sorry, it's taken. That's the Bathory-Kitsz syndrome of which you speak. Of course. What else could it

Re: [Finale] Playback bar number FinWin2003

2002-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:03 AM 10/2/02 +0800, Peter Younghusband wrote: How do you type a number into the bar number box when using playback? One of the obscure bits in the interface. Click on the speaker icon to get those choices. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:06 PM 10/2/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. jeez, how do you deal with paper scores!? 8^) I look forward

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:03 PM 10/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: The real leader in this field is FreeHand Systems. It's still in the early stages, but they have actual products along the lines of what you describe. Hasn't this been in the early stages for, like, years? :) Seriously, I seem to recall an ad with

Re: [Finale] TAN: Joshua Fineberg Article

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:39 PM 10/2/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: Classical music: Why bother? Already getting started on the Gimik list and the CECDiscuss list. :) Should have interesting responses. I don't know the guy -- supposedly he's here in New England -- but that's not unusual. There are a lot of

Re: [Finale] Extracting only some parts

2002-10-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:38 AM 10/3/02 -0400, Crystal Premo wrote: I would like to extract only *some* instruments into a sort of piano-conductor score, and cannot find the way to select, e.g. the top staff, one two staves down, and the one two staves below that. On PC, CTL-click is the default Windows behavior

Re: [Finale] Speed of Mac Finale 2003

2002-10-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:00 AM 10/4/02 +1000, Matthew Hindson wrote: What seemed most useful, however, was an apparent increase in screen redrawing speed when dealing with large files. Has anyone else come across this yet? Or is it just my imagination? Is screen redrawing still an issue? What's the speed of your

Re: [Finale] Speed of Mac Finale 2003

2002-10-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:03 AM 10/4/02 -0400, Tim wrote: Second post--I had misread Matthew's post. Like Éric, I noticed more sluggishness, especially when using on my PowerBook 400 (to Dennis: which isn't quite as easy to upgrade video-wise as a desktop box). Same problem with PC laptops. I was just

Re: [Finale] Speed of Mac Finale 2003

2002-10-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:50 AM 10/4/02 +0200, Jari wrote: How do you run MacOS on the Athlon processor? Switch! :) Seriously, as I just mentioned in the post responding to Tim Thompson, you can constantly jack up speed and peripherals cheaply with PCs to keep up with increasing CPU and storage demands -- while

Re: [Finale] Speed of Mac Finale 2003

2002-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:35 PM 10/4/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: $500 is dirt cheap? That's some fancy dirt. Sure, compared to what I paid for 32K of memory for my first computer in 1977! Seriously, building one high-end system that will last 18 months is $1 a day. I work in front of my machine 8-plus hours a

[Finale] Change all note durations?

2002-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Maybe I'm very tired and I can't find this tool... I need to take a section of a score and change all the note values by a simple multiple. I'm working up some algorithmic stuff, and the generation algorirthm is providing the raw material with (say) eighth, quarter, and half notes at

Re: [Finale] Change all note durations? = THANKS

2002-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:03 PM 10/6/02 -0500, Richard Yates and Harold Owen wrote: Mass Mover / Mass Edit / Note Durations... I was tired. Thanks! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Transposed vs. concert pitch.

2002-10-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:10 PM 10/13/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: Are you suggesting that orchestral clarinetists don't have both A and Bb clarinets? Or that violists try to play their parts on violins? Or ... or what? A least four real-life examples that have happened to me (in performance): Right on #1!

Re: [Finale] One Buck Forty or Die

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:53 AM 10/14/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: By John C. Dvorak - Opinion from PC Magazine Man this pisses me off! My comments to follow. Don't stress. Dvorak's been around a long time, and I think his reputation is all that's carrying him now. Like a lot of computer geeks washing up

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:39 PM 10/14/02 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: At 10/14/2002 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a contra-alto clarinet? Is it what we call a contrabass clarinet? No. A Contra-alto is an octave below a alto clarinet. Also called Eb bass clarinet. Dennis

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:59 PM 10/14/02 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the two instruments (possibly erroneously) as a contrabass in Eb and contrabass in Bb. Here are the spoken names for the Eb/Bb clarinets as I learned them in the US: Eb Bb Eb alto Bb bass Eb bass Bb contrabass Eb contrabass To me,

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:33 PM 10/14/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: Are you saying there's an EEb contrabass even lower? Are you sure? Big, metal, heavy, and with its own floor peg. I finally saw one in real life at a concert at the Stedelijk in Amsterdam about 10 years ago -- it was the Louis Andriessen piece Hout,

RE: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:31 PM 10/14/02 -0400, Ronald M. Krentzman wrote: As a professional clarinetist in a large regional orchestra for more than 16 years, I never have heard of an Eb Bass Clarinet. I'll take your correction. I learned of an Eb contrabass being part of the family, but never saw one. And after a

Re: [Finale] Remove all accidentals

2002-10-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:56 AM 10/18/02 +0100, Colin Broom wrote: From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] A tool to hide all accidentals in one pass. Yes? No? Plug-insCanonic UtilitiesHide all Accidentals Thanks, Colin. What in the world is it doing there? That's demonic! Dennis

Re: [Finale] Transposed vs. concert pitch.

2002-10-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:09 PM 10/13/02 +1000, helgesen wrote: Do advocates of non-transposed scores enjoy 6 or 7 leger lines in Picc, Glock, Bass Tuba, or ContraBassoon? are these 'acceptable' exceptions? All my scores since 1968 are only at concert pitch, except for octave-transposing instruments (which are so

Re: [Finale] Transposed vs. concert pitch.

2002-10-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:16 PM 10/13/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Just imagine the nightmare in the orchestra pit, when the conductor asks are you playing a B flat or a B natural there, and the clarinetist starts trying to work out what the hell the conductor is talking about, do you mean that C - (it is a C

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