Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Did it start as part of Hey, there is a network card, lets use it? I believe the default configuration auto-starts network devices if any are found. There is something not right here. It appears that openrc or whatever is not working the way it should. The funniest part about this, it worked fine the other day and it works just fine from a console. It just doesn't work right when passed from grub. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Try disabling auto-starting services? :) -- Joost It's been a while since I rebooted. Built a new kernel so here we go again. Round two. Disabled that, still started the network and a WHOLE lot of other things. This is what is in the nonetwork runlevel: root@fireball / # ls -al /etc/runlevels/nonetwork/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 72 Nov 17 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 200 May 10 18:19 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 9 05:12 local - /etc/init.d/local root@fireball / # I'm going to create a runlevel myself and let it mirror the boot runlevel. Let's see what that does. I'll post results here shortly. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Dale wrote: I'm going to create a runlevel myself and let it mirror the boot runlevel. Let's see what that does. I'll post results here shortly. Dale :-) :-) Same thing as nonetwork. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Did it start as part of Hey, there is a network card, lets use it? I believe the default configuration auto-starts network devices if any are found. There is something not right here. It appears that openrc or whatever is not working the way it should. The funniest part about this, it worked fine the other day and it works just fine from a console. It just doesn't work right when passed from grub. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Try disabling auto-starting services? :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 02:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 02:48:54 Dale wrote: The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. I changed that and will test later on today. I'm trying to get some work done in my garden while it is dry. Sort of funny in a way. The Mississippi river is flooding on the other side of the state and I'm dry here on this side. I actually live less than a mile from a different river. Weather is so weird sometimes. I don't want to think about the folks North and South of me. Tornadoes a couple weeks ago. I live in a valley next to a hill, I'm not complaining tho. It keeps the BAD winds away. o_O If anyone saw it on the news, I'm about 40 miles or so South of Smithville MS. It's gone. I saw what was left with my own eyes. Houses are piles of rubbish. I haven't seen Tuscaloosa yet but it is about 60 miles East of me. Sounds bad and looks bad on TV. :-( Back on topic, I'll reboot and test this in a while. I had this setting before but missed it during the upgrade. Still can't figure out why it doesn't work from grub like it used to. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 14:56:59 Dale wrote: The Mississippi river is flooding on the other side of the state and I'm dry here on this side. I actually live less than a mile from a different river. Weather is so weird sometimes. I don't want to think about the folks North and South of me. Tornadoes a couple weeks ago. I live in a valley next to a hill, I'm not complaining tho. It keeps the BAD winds away. o_O If anyone saw it on the news, I'm about 40 miles or so South of Smithville MS. It's gone. I saw what was left with my own eyes. Houses are piles of rubbish. I haven't seen Tuscaloosa yet but it is about 60 miles East of me. Sounds bad and looks bad on TV. :-( Eek! I remember the two years I spent in Minneapolis, when we remarked that over there we had real weather. Back on topic, I'll reboot and test this in a while. I had this setting before but missed it during the upgrade. Still can't figure out why it doesn't work from grub like it used to. My setup works just fine with run-levels that I set up years ago. I have one for no-x, which as well as not starting X also omits services that are only useful in X. I also use the nonetwork run-level for major emerges such as wholesale upgrades of KDE. The only thing I can think of at the moment that annoys me about open-rc is the loss of alphabetical ordering in the output from rc-update -s -v; everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Peter Humphrey wrote: My setup works just fine with run-levels that I set up years ago. I have one for no-x, which as well as not starting X also omits services that are only useful in X. I also use the nonetwork run-level for major emerges such as wholesale upgrades of KDE. The only thing I can think of at the moment that annoys me about open-rc is the loss of alphabetical ordering in the output from rc-update -s -v; everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). I came in for a break. I'm disabled so I just do a little then take a breather. Whew!! Anyway, I think it is something on my rig that is not right. I'm hoping to test my old x86 rig soon. It is a really old install with some really old config files. If it works there, then I know it is just this install be it something specific to amd86 or just a setting I have that others don't. Could the kernel affect this somehow? Will try to reboot this rig later on. I'll have to get a monitor and stuff hooked to my old x86 rig to test it. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: SNIP everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). -- Rgds Peter What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 06:40:02PM +0200, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: SNIP everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that hardly counts). What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that I recognize on any of my machines. Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
on 05/18/2011 08:05 PM Peter Humphrey wrote the following: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. If it doesn't work, try it with www-client/chromium.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:28:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. Openrc defaults to having hotplug disabled # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. So someone must have enabled it. -- Neil Bothwick Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 20:59:59 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:28:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Put rc_hotplug=!net.* into /etc/rc.conf. The system is getting too clever by half; nowadays it starts whatever it can, and only then does it look to see what you've set via rc-update. Openrc defaults to having hotplug disabled # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. So someone must have enabled it. I had mine enabled and that's why (I surmised) that softlevel=nonetwork booted up and started eth0, but did not start up iptables. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:10:02PM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was an update that had made it unwatchable in fullscreen. I've just installed version 10.2.159.1_p201011173. I'll see how that behaves - thanks. The version I have now is 10.3.181.14-r1 (~x86 machine). Never had any luck with fullscreen in the 10.2 series. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 18:22:10 Thanasis wrote: If it doesn't work, try it with www-client/chromium. I've already tried chomium, konqueror and opera. No improvement. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Tue, 17 May 2011 06:58:20 +0100, Mick wrote: I'm beginning to think that openrc goes back to the old Linux way. In other words, it uses the init levels instead of softlevels. Yes, this seems to be the case, although not in a clear way (otherwise why is softlevel=nonetwork working?) man rc describes the built in runlevels and goes on to say You should not call any of these runlevels yourself. So maybe this is a design decision rather than a bug, it would explain why a custom runlevel works. -- Neil Bothwick Atheism is a non-prophet organization. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011 06:58:20 +0100, Mick wrote: I'm beginning to think that openrc goes back to the old Linux way. In other words, it uses the init levels instead of softlevels. Yes, this seems to be the case, although not in a clear way (otherwise why is softlevel=nonetwork working?) man rc describes the built in runlevels and goes on to say You should not call any of these runlevels yourself. So maybe this is a design decision rather than a bug, it would explain why a custom runlevel works. So do I need to create a runlevel called dalesboot and then just put the same stuff in it as is in the normal boot level? I have to say, that is weird. A runlevel should be used by both the system and available to the user as well. Did I mention I can go to a console and use rc boot and it works? It's just when it comes from grub that it doesn't work. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Hi Dale, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:20:52AM -0500, Dale wrote: So do I need to create a runlevel called dalesboot and then just put the same stuff in it as is in the normal boot level? I have to say, that is weird. A runlevel should be used by both the system and available to the user as well. Actually the boot runlevel is not a runlevel in the way you are thinking. It is just a group of services that need to be run once when your system starts. It is run once when you boot right after the sysinit runlevel. It sounds like you might want to use the nonetwork runlevel for what you are trying to do since the only thing in there is the local service. William pgp70JwibvrR7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
William Hubbs wrote: Hi Dale, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:20:52AM -0500, Dale wrote: So do I need to create a runlevel called dalesboot and then just put the same stuff in it as is in the normal boot level? I have to say, that is weird. A runlevel should be used by both the system and available to the user as well. Actually the boot runlevel is not a runlevel in the way you are thinking. It is just a group of services that need to be run once when your system starts. It is run once when you boot right after the sysinit runlevel. It sounds like you might want to use the nonetwork runlevel for what you are trying to do since the only thing in there is the local service. William That may be true but until the openrc upgrade, it worked. I emailed the openrc folks and got a reply. He said it works for him which I assume means he can boot to the boot runlevel. If that is true, I have no reason to think it's not, then why does it not work for me? That was the reason I started this thread to begin with. I would like to know why it is not working anymore especially if it is working for the guy that sent me a email that works on openrc. I think his name was Mike. I'm awful with names. :/ So, back to my original question, why doesn't it work? I think someone else posted that it didn't work for them either. Since I wasn't getting anywhere, I did the catch all, I ran my favorite little script and am re-emerging everything, just to see if that helps. Don't anyone hold their breath now. lol Still open to ideas tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
William Hubbs wrote: Hi Dale, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:20:52AM -0500, Dale wrote: So do I need to create a runlevel called dalesboot and then just put the same stuff in it as is in the normal boot level? I have to say, that is weird. A runlevel should be used by both the system and available to the user as well. Actually the boot runlevel is not a runlevel in the way you are thinking. It is just a group of services that need to be run once when your system starts. It is run once when you boot right after the sysinit runlevel. It sounds like you might want to use the nonetwork runlevel for what you are trying to do since the only thing in there is the local service. William The emerge -e world finished. It still doesn't work like it did a few weeks ago. So, I tried the nonetwork option. That starts about every service except the GUI, my UPS thingy and a couple others. Get this, it even starts the freaking network. Why is it called nonetwork if it starts the network too. Seeing the list of services it started, it didn't miss many. There is something not right here. It appears that openrc or whatever is not working the way it should. The funniest part about this, it worked fine the other day and it works just fine from a console. It just doesn't work right when passed from grub. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Monday 16 May 2011 02:47:31 Dale wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 20:12, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Did you try creating a new runlevel (dale_special) and then booting into it by appending softlevel=dale_special ? That will prove if the Gentoo softlevel mechanism is no longer available. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Updated docs are always good, but I wonder why do you need this. If I need single user I simply press e, edit the line and add single, followed by a b to boot. That is a for maintenance only so I really don't see a need for it at grub menu, same wth the other runlevels, all you gotta do is append nox or use Interactive (again, this is only if something is broken, I can't see myself doing this twice in a week)... I think that nox brings you all the way up to runlevel 3, not runlevel 1. The thing is, I do use them which is why I went to the trouble of setting them up to begin with. I actually use them pretty regular. Just because others don't use them doesn't mean that I don't or shouldn't. I tried to use them is how I figured out it didn't work anymore. That alone shows that I use them for various reasons. This update is less than a week old and I already found out that this doesn't work anymore. I just want to figure out how it works with openrc which it appears no one has a answer and the docs are wrong as well. The definitive answer is that the gentoo single softlevel does not work. The Linux standard single or S or 1 runlevel works fine (but I can't recall if I tried 1 recently). So the question remains what is happening with other softlevels if you care to create them. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Mick wrote: On Monday 16 May 2011 02:47:31 Dale wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 20:12, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Did you try creating a new runlevel (dale_special) and then booting into it by appending softlevel=dale_special ? That will prove if the Gentoo softlevel mechanism is no longer available. I tried some of the other runlevels, nonetwork, single, boot and none of those work except for single by just putting rw single in the boot line. Single doesn't work if I select it by using softlevel=single. That does work if I am in default then switch to single in a console tho. That would be using the rc single command. I used to have another runlevel that I created myself but I removed it a good while back when I got boot set up like I wanted. It appears that openrc has not been told what softlevel is. I do see where it is passed on to the OS from grub during the boot process tho. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Updated docs are always good, but I wonder why do you need this. If I need single user I simply press e, edit the line and add single, followed by a b to boot. That is a for maintenance only so I really don't see a need for it at grub menu, same wth the other runlevels, all you gotta do is append nox or use Interactive (again, this is only if something is broken, I can't see myself doing this twice in a week)... I think that nox brings you all the way up to runlevel 3, not runlevel 1. I have used nox before on a CD. The reason I like to use the ones I already have is that I already know exactly what is running and what is not. When I boot to single by adding rw single to the end of the boot line, I still have to start some services to get where I want to be. Being able to boot to the boot runlevel is much better since I have some things already set to start. Openrc doesn't mount things listed in fstab such as /home/ portage and /var which are separate partitions. The thing is, I do use them which is why I went to the trouble of setting them up to begin with. I actually use them pretty regular. Just because others don't use them doesn't mean that I don't or shouldn't. I tried to use them is how I figured out it didn't work anymore. That alone shows that I use them for various reasons. This update is less than a week old and I already found out that this doesn't work anymore. I just want to figure out how it works with openrc which it appears no one has a answer and the docs are wrong as well. The definitive answer is that the gentoo single softlevel does not work. The Linux standard single or S or 1 runlevel works fine (but I can't recall if I tried 1 recently). So the question remains what is happening with other softlevels if you care to create them. I'm beginning to think that openrc goes back to the old Linux way. In other words, it uses the init levels instead of softlevels. The only thing that makes me think that is not true, init=runlevel doesn't work either. I suspect that init=/bin/bash would work but not tested yet. I have this in inittab: l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l0s:0:wait:/sbin/halt -dhp l1:1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc default l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot l6r:6:wait:/sbin/reboot -dk I assume I could edit that to look like this: l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l0s:0:wait:/sbin/halt -dhp l1:1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc boot l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot l6r:6:wait:/sbin/reboot -dk #z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin The only problem with that is that there are more runlevel options than there are lines there for me to add. Even tho I can sort of get to what I want, I still want to get the new way sorted so that I can get the doc team to update the docs. If this has been overlooked, then it may be that the devs will have to add this feature or make other changes so that this is doable. I also posted on the forums. They are equally stumped. I am beginning to think this was over
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Monday 16 May 2011 13:10:52 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Did you try creating a new runlevel (dale_special) and then booting into it by appending softlevel=dale_special ? That will prove if the Gentoo softlevel mechanism is no longer available. I tried some of the other runlevels, nonetwork, single, boot and none of those work except for single by just putting rw single in the boot line. Single doesn't work if I select it by using softlevel=single. That does work if I am in default then switch to single in a console tho. That would be using the rc single command. I used to have another runlevel that I created myself but I removed it a good while back when I got boot set up like I wanted. It appears that openrc has not been told what softlevel is. I do see where it is passed on to the OS from grub during the boot process tho. OK, it is clear then that (some?) of the gentoo runlevels called with the softlevel incantation do not work as they used to with baselayout 1. I just tried softlevel=single and it definitely didn't work. Also, softlevel=sysinit, didn't work. However, softlevel=nonetwork *did* work ... well, sort of. It mounted everything, then started devices including my network card (I have enabled rc_hotplugging devices in /etc/rc.conf so this may have something to do with it) and then it stopped before starting things like iptables, local, etc. Sure enough I had an IP address and was able to connect to the world ... albeit without iptables running (not sure I would have a use case for this scenario). I'm not sure if setting rc_hotplug made this messy, but from $ ls -la /etc/runlevels/ total 32 drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 . drwxr-xr-x 88 root root 4096 May 16 21:11 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 15 20:01 default drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 21 2010 nonetwork drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 shutdown drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 21 2010 single drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 sysinit single and sysinit are ignored (runlevel 3 comes up). I think that nox brings you all the way up to runlevel 3, not runlevel 1. I have used nox before on a CD. The reason I like to use the ones I already have is that I already know exactly what is running and what is not. When I boot to single by adding rw single to the end of the boot line, I still have to start some services to get where I want to be. Being able to boot to the boot runlevel is much better since I have some things already set to start. Openrc doesn't mount things listed in fstab such as /home/ portage and /var which are separate partitions. I wouldn't expect it to mount anything other than / under single. The thing is, I do use them which is why I went to the trouble of setting them up to begin with. I actually use them pretty regular. Just because others don't use them doesn't mean that I don't or shouldn't. In that case you probably need runlevel 3, but just with nox? The definitive answer is that the gentoo single softlevel does not work. The Linux standard single or S or 1 runlevel works fine (but I can't recall if I tried 1 recently). So the question remains what is happening with other softlevels if you care to create them. I'm beginning to think that openrc goes back to the old Linux way. In other words, it uses the init levels instead of softlevels. Yes, this seems to be the case, although not in a clear way (otherwise why is softlevel=nonetwork working?) The only thing that makes me think that is not true, init=runlevel doesn't work either. I suspect that init=/bin/bash would work but not tested yet. init=/bin/bash works. You log in as root user without passwd. Only the / fs is mounted as rw. Everything else is a manual job and you must run sync after you make any changes, or your fs may not forgive you. I have this in inittab: l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l0s:0:wait:/sbin/halt -dhp l1:1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc default l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot l6r:6:wait:/sbin/reboot -dk If you append any number from above, like 1, or 2, or 3, etc. to the kernel line it will work. I assume I could edit that to look like this: l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l0s:0:wait:/sbin/halt -dhp l1:1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc boot l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot l6r:6:wait:/sbin/reboot -dk #z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin The only problem with that is that there are more runlevel options than there are lines there for me to add. I am not sure that you are meant to edit this manually. I thought that if you want another runlevel you are meant to add this using rc-update and then add the services via symlinks in /etc/runlevels/my_runlevel_name/ Even tho
[gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sun, 15 May 2011 05:34:07 -0500, Dale wrote: I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Why not rebuild them before you reboot? It's far more convenient. -- Neil Bothwick Where do you think you're going today? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 05:34:07 -0500, Dale wrote: I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Why not rebuild them before you reboot? It's far more convenient. But that doesn't fix the problem I posted. There are times when I need to boot to something besides the default runlevel. Right now, I can't do that so I want to fix it so that I can boot to another runlevel. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sunday 15 May 2011 11:34:07 Dale wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) According to my /etc/inittab: # new-style single-user su0:S:wait:/sbin/rc single su1:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin so softlevel=single should get you there. However, you say it doesn't ... # rc-update show single # Hmm ... nothing there. Sure enough its empty: $ ls -la /etc/runlevels/single/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 21 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 .. So, what you would need to do I think is add the services you want starting at single runlevel there and you should be good to go. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sun, 15 May 2011 05:34:07 -0500, Dale wrote: I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Why not rebuild them before you reboot? It's far more convenient. I do not know about the particular video drivers, but I have used some 'out-of-tree' drivers[1] which only build against the running kernel not the (built but not yet booted) one in /usr/src/linux. [1] The one which immediately comes to mind is for the Digi Etherlite network serial port adaptors.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Mick wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2011 11:34:07 Dale wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) According to my /etc/inittab: # new-style single-user su0:S:wait:/sbin/rc single su1:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin so softlevel=single should get you there. However, you say it doesn't ... # rc-update show single # Hmm ... nothing there. Sure enough its empty: $ ls -la /etc/runlevels/single/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 21 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 .. So, what you would need to do I think is add the services you want starting at single runlevel there and you should be good to go. There never has been anything in my single user runlevel. It worked fine a few weeks ago but after the openrc upgrade, no more worky. The funny thing is, I can go to a console and type in rc single, that works fine. It goes to single user mode with no errors. Well, I did notice top showed the ttys still running. I'm going to test that later. That may be another thread for another day. Sort of beating on one thing at a time. ;-) I just thought maybe it changed from softlevel to something else but if it did, I can't find it documented anywhere and even Google appears to be lost on this. Open to ideas still. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sunday 15 May 2011 16:39:19 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2011 11:34:07 Dale wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) According to my /etc/inittab: # new-style single-user su0:S:wait:/sbin/rc single su1:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin so softlevel=single should get you there. However, you say it doesn't ... # rc-update show single # Hmm ... nothing there. Sure enough its empty: $ ls -la /etc/runlevels/single/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 21 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 May 2 10:54 .. So, what you would need to do I think is add the services you want starting at single runlevel there and you should be good to go. There never has been anything in my single user runlevel. It worked fine a few weeks ago but after the openrc upgrade, no more worky. The funny thing is, I can go to a console and type in rc single, that works fine. It goes to single user mode with no errors. Well, I did notice top showed the ttys still running. I'm going to test that later. That may be another thread for another day. Sort of beating on one thing at a time. ;-) I just thought maybe it changed from softlevel to something else but if it did, I can't find it documented anywhere and even Google appears to be lost on this. Open to ideas still. The so called 'single' softlevel is a Gentoo fix for user specified runlevels with their own selected services. I don't have a pre-OpenRC box to check that it linked to, but I seem to remember that it went to runlevel 3 and adjusted services from there. The standard Linux runlevel called also single (confusing isn't it) stops before runlevel 3 and asks for a root passwd (or Control+D to continue). It can be called by appending 1 or S to the boot line. If you don't want to have to login with a password then I think you need to append 'init=/bin/bash' and mount as rw what fs you need to work on. You'll have to sync and umount before you reboot to be safe. Could also work with 'init=/bin/bb' for busybox - but I'm not sure. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 07:34, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:14 on Sunday 15 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 05:34:07 -0500, Dale wrote: I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Why not rebuild them before you reboot? It's far more convenient. But that doesn't fix the problem I posted. There are times when I need to boot to something besides the default runlevel. Right now, I can't do that so I want to fix it so that I can boot to another runlevel. Like what for instance? I can't remember the last time I needed single user mode. In excess of 4 years methinks. It would appear that you are doing something wrong and taking unneccessary steps to accomplish something. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:36:10 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Why not rebuild them before you reboot? It's far more convenient. I do not know about the particular video drivers, but I have used some 'out-of-tree' drivers[1] which only build against the running kernel not the (built but not yet booted) one in /usr/src/linux. The Nvidia drivers build against /usr/src/linux, or any alternative location you set. -- Neil Bothwick To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). May try that next. I don't need this right now but I do want to figure this out before I do. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 20:12, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Updated docs are always good, but I wonder why do you need this. If I need single user I simply press e, edit the line and add single, followed by a b to boot. That is a for maintenance only so I really don't see a need for it at grub menu, same wth the other runlevels, all you gotta do is append nox or use Interactive (again, this is only if something is broken, I can't see myself doing this twice in a week)... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 20:12, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Updated docs are always good, but I wonder why do you need this. If I need single user I simply press e, edit the line and add single, followed by a b to boot. That is a for maintenance only so I really don't see a need for it at grub menu, same wth the other runlevels, all you gotta do is append nox or use Interactive (again, this is only if something is broken, I can't see myself doing this twice in a week)... -- Daniel da Veiga The thing is, I do use them which is why I went to the trouble of setting them up to begin with. I actually use them pretty regular. Just because others don't use them doesn't mean that I don't or shouldn't. I tried to use them is how I figured out it didn't work anymore. That alone shows that I use them for various reasons. This update is less than a week old and I already found out that this doesn't work anymore. I just want to figure out how it works with openrc which it appears no one has a answer and the docs are wrong as well. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
