Re: Down time

2003-02-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
This is a really good explanation, except that the stepping on other applications address space has not been a problem since Windows 3.1 (which is to say it was fixed in Win95, and NT). Most of the system freezes seen these days seem to be due to storage leeks in the OS, although I traced one

Re: eWeek Article: Microsoft Warns SEC of Open-Source Threat

2003-02-05 Thread Phil Payne
To the extent the open source model gains increasing market acceptance, sales of the company's products may decline, the company may have to reduce the prices it charges for its products, and revenues and operating margins may consequently decline, it said. The threat is threefold: a) Lower

ComputerWorld articles

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Short
If you can get hold of CW for 02/03/2003 there are two relatively good articles: On page 23 Moving into Mainframe LINUX On page 35 When Yanking the Mainframe is not an Option

Re: Down time

2003-02-05 Thread Dennis Hamrick
I've been working on/with Mainframes for 27 years, 30 if you count college, 32 if you count High School. Dennis Hamrick KUB Ronald Wells RWells@agfinan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ce.com cc: Sent

Re: Debian install problem

2003-02-05 Thread Maciej Ksiezycki
Adam, Mark Post and Jochen - thank you for your replies. For my unsuccesful attempts I used a .ins file created by myself and I didn't know that the filenames might not be too long. When I used the original .ins file from the Debian CD and changed the filenames according to it, the installation

Re: Microsoft gets an 'F'

2003-02-05 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, John Alvord wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:32:29 +, Dougie G Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the prerequisite is a user community for the OS that demands that security holes be fixed, and a developer who is committed to fixing the holes. IBM isn't

Re: VG to Mdisk mapping ?

2003-02-05 Thread Phil Tully
Neale Thanks, PVSCAN provides the first bit of info. Would pvscan help? It would tell you the device path name and the volume group to which it belongs. linxken:~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/dasda1 200M 87M 113M 44% / /dev/vg3/tmp

FORGET LINUX, GET A PINK SLIP

2003-02-05 Thread Colman Fink
It used to be: nobody got fired buying IBM, then it was Microsoft. Now it is: if you don't buy Linux, you just as good as fired. Talk about taking it one notch up! ~Colman --- FORGET LINUX, GET A PINK SLIP eWeek's editorial board has decided that for IT

CIO Today Article: The State of Samba

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
This was sent to me by a co-worker. It's a fairly generic article about Samba, until it gets to the end, when they quote Jeremy Allison about some of the things that are going to be included in Samba 3.x: The most exciting new feature in version 3.0, according to Allison, is Net RPC Vampire.

Re: Yet Another Systems Programmer Trying to Install Linux390

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Kenny, Having been through this before myself with an LPAR install, the path of least resistance here would be to use the Ethernet adapter to get the system installed and running, and then compile the CLAW driver and start using it. That will involve the least amount of hair loss during the

Re: Guest LAN using Virtual Hipersockets...again

2003-02-05 Thread Ketchens, LeMarr T. (RyTull)
ryn-zvmlnx:~ # uname -a uname -a Linux ryn-zvmlnx 2.4.7-timer-SMP #1 SMP Tue May 21 12:58:16 GMT 2002 s390 unknown -Original Message- From: Eddie Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guest LAN using Virtual

Re: Power of Open Source - Microsoft Warns SEC of Open-Source Threat

2003-02-05 Thread John Ford
Maybe they think that if they use open source software as part of their proprietary software that they would have to make their software open. AFAIK, it doesn't matter unless you distribute your software with the OSS stuff embedded (and thus no longer open). If I'm wrong... straighten me out...

Re: Debian install problem

2003-02-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:39:40PM +0100, Maciej Ksiezycki wrote: Is it so because I didn't load the oco.bin file ? I tried to find it on the net but it was nowhere to be found.My distribution doesn't have it either... In the Debian CVS repository, there is a script by Stefan Gybas which will

Re: VG to Mdisk mapping ?

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
cat /proc/dasd/devices | grep dasdb1 Mark Post -Original Message- From: Phil Tully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VG to Mdisk mapping ? -snip- How do map /dev/dasdb1 to mdisk 101? Phil

Re: Debian install problem

2003-02-05 Thread Jochen Röhrig
Maciek, When I used the original .ins file from the Debian CD and changed the filenames according to it, the installation went smoothly until the first IPL. After the IPL I get a message from modprobe: can't locate module eth0. I am using OSA-2. Is it so because I didn't load the oco.bin

Re: FORGET LINUX, GET A PINK SLIP

2003-02-05 Thread Phil Payne
It used to be: nobody got fired buying IBM, then it was Microsoft. Now it is: if you don't buy Linux, you just as good as fired. Which is pretty well how my storage opinion piece for Computer Weekly starts: Followers of Fashion Fashion often seems to rule the IT world - sometimes beneficially.

An Intel Slackware question about the 2.4.x kernels

2003-02-05 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Most of you know, by now, that my primary Linux box, is an Intel one, who runs Slackware Linux, in this case 8.0. It also is an UMSDOS machine. That is it sits on the regular FAT32 partition, who uses the 2.2.19 kernel, because of the assertion by the folks at Slackware

Re: Power of Open Source - Microsoft Warns SEC of Open-Source Threat

2003-02-05 Thread Joe Poole
I was leaning toward a reference to tailored SAP, Peoplesoft, and the millions of lines of COBOL code that define our business rules, and that we wrote ourselves over the past 30 years. (Much of which is probably running every night!). Open source software can't replace that, but still has a

Suse 7 kernet 2.4 Packages

2003-02-05 Thread Ken Vance
Hi, I have 2 questions: 1.) I added new DASD today to our Suse 7 system, kernel 2.4. I edited /etc/zipl.conf and added the new DASD, and then I issued a zipl. Is this the correct way to add DASD? 2.) One of our testers wants the kernel source, so I perfomed the following steps: - Yast -

OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?

2003-02-05 Thread Beinert, William
There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could benefit from this. Can anyone refresh my memory? thanks Bill Beinert

Re: VG to Mdisk mapping ?

2003-02-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Would pvscan help? It would tell you the device path name and the volume group to which it belongs. -Original Message- Hello all, We are trying to develop procedure for other support organizations to monitor our Linux/Z environments. One of the problems that has popped up was how to

Re: Root almost filled on 3390-3

2003-02-05 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Werner, I'm glad I was able to help you find your storage problem. I remember when sonmeone showed me the du command about a year and a half ago how useful it was to me. As far as LVM is concerned, there are others on this list who are more qualified to speak about LVM than I am. I'm sure

Re: Suse 7 kernet 2.4 Packages

2003-02-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
-Original Message- 1.) I added new DASD today to our Suse 7 system, kernel 2.4. I edited /etc/zipl.conf and added the new DASD, and then I issued a zipl. Is this the correct way to add DASD? The disks aren't available until you re-boot, or use echo add device=xxx /proc/dasd/devices.

Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?

2003-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:23:33PM -0500, Beinert, William wrote: There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could benefit

Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?

2003-02-05 Thread Coffin Michael C
You are referring to the SuSE Live Evaluation CD. You can find it here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/ Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-3123 [EMAIL

Re: System administration facility/dirmaint

2003-02-05 Thread David Boyes
Hi all, somebody knows whats the diferences between the System Administration Facility and DirMaint? SAF was intended to be a black box VM management solution for Linux guests that involved no knowledge of CMS or CMS functions, similar to the approach taken by the mercifully short-lived VIF

Re: Suse 7 kernet 2.4 Packages

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Ken, 1. That's the way you make sure that what ever DASD you add will be recognized at the next IPL. To make them available now, do an: echo -n add device range=addr1[-addr2] /proc/dasd/devices If you're only adding one volume, only specify one address. If you're adding multiple

Re: lvm

2003-02-05 Thread Scott Chapman
You're probably looking for lvdisplay, vgdisplay, pvscan, and/or pvdisplay... linux142:/etc/modutils# lvdisplay /dev/vg0/lv03 --- Logical volume --- LV Name/dev/vg0/lv03 VG Namevg0 LV Write Accessread/write LV Status available

Future of LVM, was RE: Root almost filled on 3390-3

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Gordon, Most likely, they were referring to EVMS, IBM's Enterprise Volume Management System. And actually, they were 180 degrees off. LVM2 has been decided upon as the direction for the (immediate) future. The IBM team that develops EVMS has decided to drop their kernel extensions, and

Re: System administration facility/dirmaint

2003-02-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 02/03/2003 at 11:37 CST, Alex Leyva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, somebody knows whats the diferences between the System Administration Facility and DirMaint? The situation is that the people from IBM told us that they will install it after install zvm, i have never heard about

Re: Down time

2003-02-05 Thread Ronald Wells
not unfair -- just a reality check, as for raid having cleaner interfaces ??? think your grabbing at straws . point is PC's or the platform of choice of today is and does have a way to grow , and when it does over the next some odd years , it too will then have a mainframe tag ... and yes you too

Re: Root almost filled on 3390-3

2003-02-05 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Wolfe, thanks for your reply. The du command was a great help in finding the culprit. There were two files in /tmp from the installation of a DB2 fixpack which used up a lot of space. Now we are at 40% and 870MB. However, I'd still like to know which directories can be moved to LVM managed space

Re: Debian install problem

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Maciek, I haven't gone through a Debian/390 install with OCO modules, but I would think that at some point you would need to copy the OCO module from the ramdisk to your /lib/modules tree so that the installed system could access it after the IPL. You should just be able to re-IPL the starter

Re: Power of Open Source - Microsoft Warns SEC of Open-Source Threat

2003-02-05 Thread Daniel Casey
I could certainly understand a company not choosing Linux because most of their currently running software/applications are not yet available on Linux. I though that was what the quote was talking about. |-+ | | John Ford| |

Re: Debian install problem

2003-02-05 Thread Stefan Gybas
Post, Mark K wrote: I haven't gone through a Debian/390 install with OCO modules, but I would think that at some point you would need to copy the OCO module from the ramdisk to your /lib/modules tree so that the installed system could access it after the IPL. This is done by Debian's installer

Re: Root almost filled on 3390-3

2003-02-05 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Sorry, it should have been Gordon, Werner Kuehnel wrote: Wolfe, -- Werner Kuehnel IMD GmbH (Mannheimer Versicherung) Mannheim - Germany

Re: VG to Mdisk mapping ?

2003-02-05 Thread Ronald Van Der Laan
Phil, Try a 'cat /proc/dasd/devices' to see the device_name to mdisk_address mapping. For further mapping info of how are those logical volumes mapped onto your physical volumes, try 'pvdata -av /dev/dasdb1'. Ronald van der Laan

Re: lvm

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Ralph, A couple of different ways: cat /proc/lvm pvscan Mark Post -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lvm how do you tell what volumes make up an LVM like my lvm has 6g what volumes

Re: lvm

2003-02-05 Thread Phil Tully
Well now I can answer that (Thanks to Neill) pvscan. linxken:~ # pvscan pvscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...) pvscan -- ACTIVE PV /dev/dasdb1 of VG vg1 [904 MB / 0 free] pvscan -- ACTIVE PV /dev/dasdc1 of VG vg2 [300 MB / 0 free] pvscan -- ACTIVE PV /dev/dasdd1

Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?

2003-02-05 Thread Rod Furey
CD based SuSE Live Eval - as mentioned in Michael's post DemoLinux - www.demolinux.org Knoppix - www.knoppix.org There are various projects around the net that are working on this sort of thing as well. There are others that you can boot off floppies but these tend to be fairly small systems

IBM's Newest Enterprise Storage Server Drives Open Standards

2003-02-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
See: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-02-05-011-26-NW-HE-SV; IBM today announced the delivery of the first industry standard interface for the IBM Enterprise Storage Server (codenamed 'Shark') based on 'Bluefin,' a specification designed to help customers more easily manage

Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?

2003-02-05 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:23:33PM -0500, Beinert, William wrote: There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but

Re: Guest LAN using Virtual Hipersockets...again

2003-02-05 Thread Eddie Chen
Did you apply the may-2002 patches form SuSE7 and update the /etc/modules ??? |+- || Ketchens, LeMarr T. | || (RyTull) | || LeMarr.Ketchens@ryerso| || ntull.com

Re: Utilizing Linked minidisk in a reiser LVM environment

2003-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Two things to check. Make sure /etc/fstab specifies that the file system is to be mounted readonly. Also, in your parmfile where you specify DASD device numbers, make sure that you specify 107(ro). So, for example, you would have: 100-105,107(ro),191 Mark Post -Original Message- From: