Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:22, Roger Searle wrote: Hi, now that I have a wireless router at work and home (both are 802.11b g), I need a pcmcia card for my laptop. Plenty of them about of course, but I want to make sure it will work under linux. Any advice on which ones are better / easier to get going under linux / reliability / range etc would be appreciated. For a cheap high power (longer range) 802.11b card I'd recommend the SMC SMC2532W-B it's a 200mw card with external antenna connectors based on the Prism chipset, similar to the popular Senao cards. The driver for this is in the kernel and it will work out of the box with most all distributions. If you are looking for a 802.11g card try one based on the Atheros chipset[1] or the Prisim54 chipset[2] The prism54 driver is in the kernel although you will need the firmware for the card from prism54.org. The madwifi drivers are still 'beta' but they are stable, they are included in Ubuntu although I'm unsure of any other distro. They are as easy as pie to install anyway. I've used all of the above and they all worked great. Although it's slower I quite like the SMC card for it's longer range, I guess it depends how much bandwidth you need. [1]http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=compatibility_list [2]http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php HTH hads -- Lead pencils have no lead in themonly graphite.
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:22, Roger Searle wrote: Hi, now that I have a wireless router at work and home (both are 802.11b g), I need a pcmcia card for my laptop. Plenty of them about of course, but I want to make sure it will work under linux. Any advice on which ones are better / easier to get going under linux / reliability / range etc would be appreciated. For example while this one from DSE mentions specifically linux support http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/43278a92043fc6f8273fc0a87f99073 0/Product/View/XH6828 quote This product is only available to personal shoppers at the Retail Stores listed below. Retail Stores: (with stock available) Store Locations New Lynn, Henderson, Takapuna, Hamilton, Rotorua, Vivian Street, Lower Hutt. /quote Looks as if you are SOL whith that one. it is quite a lot more expensive than others that do not such as http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/43278a92043fc6f8273fc0a87f99073 0/Product/View/XH8345 which does not. Similar. Nearest stock is Rangiora, but it can be backordered. While I do not have to pay for it myself, I don't have an unlimited budget and so can't just buy anything I want. I have no idea whether the 2.6 kernel translates into all cards will go and can get away with a cheap genius card or or whether I need to be pretty careful about what I get. From personal experience I know that the Intel ipw2100 and ipw220 mini-pci cards work perfectly. Linus has not put them in the official kernel yet, because, as I understand it, the cards will auto associate to an access point. Linus feels this is a breach of security. Others feel that it is a wonderful convenience. Matter of opinion I 'spose. Anyway they both install and work for me. -- CS
Re: OT: (Sort of) riser.
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:19, Steve Holdoway wrote: Does anyone know where I can get a PCI riser card - single slot, 5cm long? Molten Media might well be able to help. http://www.molten.org.nz/ Take care. -- CS
Re: wireless laptop card advice
The madwifi drivers are still 'beta' but they are stable, they are included in Ubuntu although I'm unsure of any other distro. SuSE ships everything they're legally allowed to out of the box. Yast support seems to be very good too (obviously I can't test it all ;). Atheros seems to be the best bet, followed by Prism54. The 10,000,000 question still stands: where do you get cards with these chipsets? Be aware that manufacturers change chipsets without changing card model numbers. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: CLUG toolbox
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:46, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: That's sensible. If we get a large enough box then the tea/coffee/supper things can go in it too. Today's Mitre 10 flier has a 480mm toolbox in it for 9.XX. Not sure whether it's a totally good idea to pack the food with the electronics, but if you're organised and pack the food up sensibly the RJ45 sockets will be thankful. You can rest assured that I will ensure that they are suitably fed, watered and caffeinated during the 30 day stand-down periods. They won't starve. -- CS
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:24 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: The madwifi drivers are still 'beta' but they are stable, they are included in Ubuntu although I'm unsure of any other distro. SuSE ships everything they're legally allowed to out of the box. Yast support seems to be very good too (obviously I can't test it all ;). Atheros seems to be the best bet, followed by Prism54. The 10,000,000 question still stands: where do you get cards with these chipsets? Be aware that manufacturers change chipsets without changing card model numbers. One could always go to the dse site that was pointed to, download the linux driver that they offer, and note that it is the madwifi driver, and therefore its gonna have the atheros chipset :-) [1] Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) [1] DSE do have a habit of providing a fixed version of linux drivers, and do not update their downloadable. IMHO they would be better to provide some simple info like this card works with the madwifi driver, and if that driver is not provided by your distribution you can download it from madwifi.sf.net or this card works with the airo driver which is included in the linux kernel, the module is named airo_cs or this card has no linux drivers but you can use it in linux in conjunction with the ndiswrapper driver... etc Volker -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless laptop card advice
Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. [1] DSE do have a habit of providing a fixed version of linux drivers, and do not update their downloadable. IMHO they would be better to provide some simple info like this card works with the madwifi driver, and if that driver is not provided by your distribution you can download it from madwifi.sf.net or this card works with the airo driver which is included in the linux kernel, the module is named airo_cs or this card has no linux drivers but you can use it in linux in conjunction with the ndiswrapper driver... etc Ack ack, that would *really* help, but I guess someone has to put the effort into making sure the info is correct, or there's liability trouble. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:02 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [1] DSE do have a habit of providing a fixed version of linux drivers, and do not update their downloadable. IMHO they would be better to provide some simple info like this card works with the madwifi driver, and if that driver is not provided by your distribution you can download it from madwifi.sf.net or this card works with the airo driver which is included in the linux kernel, the module is named airo_cs or this card has no linux drivers but you can use it in linux in conjunction with the ndiswrapper driver... etc Ack ack, that would *really* help, but I guess someone has to put the effort into making sure the info is correct, or there's liability trouble. They disclaim liability all over the show anyway, at present they provide a (soon outdated) driver for download, and they obviously test that. I am just thinking a pointer to the driver's web page or other information about where to get the driver is likely to be a better service, in that you can get the latest. Their current approach is like putting the sources for kernel 2.0.0 on your site and saying we mirror linux. You are far better to point to http://www.kernel.org. Given: 1. the disclaimers; and 2. the swap out money back guarantees that they offer in any event I see no downside for DSE in providing a pointer to the latest and greatest driver website, instead of stuff that ages quickly. After all, isn't that one of the reasons why that smart fella invented the www? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:02, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. On pricespy[1] there are some Cameo cards listed which advertise the Atheros chipset in their description. I've never heard of them before today. Also, does anyone know of any other chipsets that do the Turbo 108Mbps as far as I can tell at the moment most of the cards that advertise this seem to be based on the Atheros chipset which could be semi-helpful in determining which particular chipset a card uses. [1]http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_4779.html hads -- God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and the Devil runs them by quantum theory on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. -- William Bragg
Re: wireless laptop card advice
The d-link dwl-650 ( I think - I'll check tomorrow ) works fine with madwifi drivers if ou're after a PCI solution. And they're well under $70. Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 9:44 pm, Hadley Rich wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:02, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. On pricespy[1] there are some Cameo cards listed which advertise the Atheros chipset in their description. I've never heard of them before today. Also, does anyone know of any other chipsets that do the Turbo 108Mbps as far as I can tell at the moment most of the cards that advertise this seem to be based on the Atheros chipset which could be semi-helpful in determining which particular chipset a card uses. [1]http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_4779.html hads -- God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and the Devil runs them by quantum theory on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. -- William Bragg -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Re: wireless laptop card advice
I have a cameo usb wireless device which stopped going, went back for repair, it's replacement doesn't work either. Possibly flakey drivers, though I don't know for sure... I certainly can't get it going in more than one (windows) machine. It's going back tomorrow for credit on something else. Seemed like a good idea at the time to get it. The particular store didn't have a pcmcia card that day and I was impatient. I won't be buying anything of that brand again... Roger Hadley Rich wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:02, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. On pricespy[1] there are some Cameo cards listed which advertise the Atheros chipset in their description. I've never heard of them before today. Also, does anyone know of any other chipsets that do the Turbo 108Mbps as far as I can tell at the moment most of the cards that advertise this seem to be based on the Atheros chipset which could be semi-helpful in determining which particular chipset a card uses. [1]http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_4779.html hads
Re: wireless laptop card advice
For my application I specifically need pcmcia, it's the only slot my laptop has. Or reliable USB. But my experience with the stupid cameo thing has left me weary of that option. And definitely support for g. The comments on chipsets and power ratings etc are very helpful. Further consideration and investigation is needed on my part, I'm glad I asked the question. Thanks for all the replies. Cheers, Roger Steve Holdoway wrote: The d-link dwl-650 ( I think - I'll check tomorrow ) works fine with madwifi drivers if ou're after a PCI solution. And they're well under $70. Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 9:44 pm, Hadley Rich wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:02, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. On pricespy[1] there are some Cameo cards listed which advertise the Atheros chipset in their description. I've never heard of them before today. Also, does anyone know of any other chipsets that do the Turbo 108Mbps as far as I can tell at the moment most of the cards that advertise this seem to be based on the Atheros chipset which could be semi-helpful in determining which particular chipset a card uses. [1]http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_4779.html hads -- God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and the Devil runs them by quantum theory on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. -- William Bragg
Re: CLUG toolbox
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:46, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: That's sensible. If we get a large enough box then the tea/coffee/supper things can go in it too. Today's Mitre 10 flier has a 480mm toolbox in it for 9.XX. Not sure whether it's a totally good idea to pack the food with the electronics, Ah! Electrolyte bikkies! (You can see I've read far, far, far too much Stanislaw Lem! Cyberiad pleads guilty. ;) Wesley Parish but if you're organised and pack the food up sensibly the RJ45 sockets will be thankful. Volker -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: CLUG toolbox
I'll be going that way tomorrow. You want I should drop by and pick it up? Wesley Parish On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:37, Steve Holdoway wrote: I've got a straight through cable made up that's at least 10m long. You'll need a big box for it, though. I can bring it into the CBD, but I travel by bus, so am a bit stuck delivering it any further. I'll bring it in tomorrow. Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 5:36 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:00, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Throw it all into a $9.95 toolbox from the Junkhouse or Bunnings or Placemakers or Idontcare. Stick a list of the inventory to the inside of the lid... and label all items with a big black pen. That's sensible. If we get a large enough box then the tea/coffee/supper things can go in it too. I'd like to get all these things properly organized before the next meeting, so could the volunteers please come up with their donations without delay. -- CS -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:11, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:02 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [1] DSE do have a habit of providing a fixed version of linux drivers, and do not update their downloadable. IMHO they would be better to provide some simple info like this card works with the madwifi driver, and if that driver is not provided by your distribution you can download it from madwifi.sf.net or this card works with the airo driver which is included in the linux kernel, the module is named airo_cs or this card has no linux drivers but you can use it in linux in conjunction with the ndiswrapper driver... etc Ack ack, that would *really* help, but I guess someone has to put the effort into making sure the info is correct, or there's liability trouble. They disclaim liability all over the show anyway, at present they provide a (soon outdated) driver for download, and they obviously test that. I am just thinking a pointer to the driver's web page or other information about where to get the driver is likely to be a better service, in that you can get the latest. Their current approach is like putting the sources for kernel 2.0.0 on your site and saying we mirror linux. You are far better to point to http://www.kernel.org. Given: 1. the disclaimers; and 2. the swap out money back guarantees that they offer in any event I see no downside for DSE in providing a pointer to the latest and greatest driver website, instead of stuff that ages quickly. After all, isn't that one of the reasons why that smart fella invented the www? Indeed! While at the moment while DSE are trying pretty hard to provide Linux compatible gear, I fear that they simply don't 'grok it' properly. What, imho, DSE need to do is to make sure that the actual chip sets used in the interfaces are correctly identified in the documentation which comes with the pieces of gear. A reference to the web-site of the firm who made the chip would be a great help. For example it took me several hours futzing around to get their single channel USB - serial converter ( XH8290 ) to work when it should have been the work of a moment falling off the proverbial log. All the doco really needs to say in this case is something like:- The chip used in this device is made by Future Technology Devices International Ltd. http://www.ftdichip.com/ The driver required for this device is in the 2.6 kernel. Install the ftdi_sio.c driver as a module. You will find the configuration flag in the kernel make menuconfig system at:- Device Drivers - USB support - Support for Host-side USB - USB Serial Converter support - USB Serial Converter support Install the driver as a module. M You can test the converter using either the 'minicom' terminal emulator or the traditional unix utility named 'cu' which is part of the 'uucp' package. Ignore the fact that this driver is marked 'experimental', because it works perfectly. If you need more support to install kernel modules then you will in all probably find quality help available from one of the Linux User Groups. There you go DSE, word perfect for your support page for the XH8290 USB - serial converter. Please feel free to use it. If DSE did this sort of thing it would make using their peripherals with Linux a sensible possibility instead of the rather hit or miss affair it is at the moment. I suspect that their main problem is that they don't know where to turn to find a person with both competent authoring and Linux skills at a reasonable price. I wonder if DSE are reading the list? Would they care to make a comment? -- CS
Re: wireless laptop card advice
If DSE did this sort of thing it would make using their peripherals with Linux a sensible possibility instead of the rather hit or miss affair it is at the moment. I'm afraid I have to agree. I suspect that their main problem is that they don't know where to turn to find a person with both competent authoring and Linux skills at a reasonable price. One of their staff reads NZLUG and occsionally posts when it's on topic for him. He's extremely helpful and never stroke me as incompetent, but lacks time. You should forward your email to him as a suggestion - Ross Hamblin, first.last at the DSE domain. He does listen, that's his job. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: wireless laptop card advice
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 00:17 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
(Chris Sawtell wrote)
I suspect that their main problem is that they don't know where to
turn to
find a person with both competent authoring and Linux skills at a
reasonable
price.
One of their staff reads NZLUG and occsionally posts when it's on
topic
for him. He's extremely helpful and never stroke me as incompetent,
but
lacks time.
You should forward your email to him as a suggestion - Ross Hamblin,
first.last at the DSE domain. He does listen, that's his job.
Yeah Chris, thats pretty unfair.
DSE are very open to suggestions. You might notice that they often
publish vendor id and product id on their web page. (see for example on
the XH8290 page you referred to.) They did so as a result of a polite
email exchange with a linux enthusiast a couple of years ago.
Frankly Chris if you futzed around for hours getting that device going
its more a reflection of you not using the info that DSE and the device
itself gave you. The device has been in the kernel for ages and ages.
You had the device and the vendor/product id's - both the DSE web site
and the device itself (lsusb, usbview, grep
Vendor /proc/bus/usb/devices) tell you that. At the very worst grep on
the kernel sources gives a very strong clue as to the right driver.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux-2.6.13-gentoo/drivers/usb $ grep -i 0b39 * -r
media/dabfirmware.h:{ 13, 0x0b39, 0, \
{0x90,0x7f,0x98,0x74,0x20,0xf0,0xc0,0x02,0xc0,0x04,0xc0,0x05,0x12} },
net/pegasus.h:#define VENDOR_OCT 0x0b39
serial/ftdi_sio.h:#define OCT_VID 0x0B39 /* OCT\
vendor ID */
(sorry about the line breaks)
so the vendor ID produces three hits, one of which is
serial/ftdi_sio.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux-2.6.13-gentoo/drivers/usb $ grep -i 0421 * -r
misc/emi62_fw_s.h::10421600907619E064017035907687E0FFD3942D8F
misc/emi62_fw_m.h::10421F00907619E064017035907687E0FFD3942D86
serial/ftdi_sio.h:#define OCT_US101_PID 0x0421 /* OCT US101 USB
to RS-232 */
the product ID confirms it .
If you have the vendor and product ID you can establish whether the
product is likely to work in linux in advance of purchase.
--
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My screw up
If you're on Mandrake 10 official, try this: System - Configuration - KDE - System - Login Manager You'll be asked for your root password. Click on the User tab, and then untick root in the Hidden Users box. Logout, and voila! you should have root on the login screen. Of course, I'm assuming you're using KDE desktop. If this doesn't work, I shall sit quietly till I come up with another smartass idea to annoy the list. Cheers, Edwin From: Ross Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/14 Wed PM 03:13:08 GMT+12:00 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: My screw up Um no. One of the oddities of Mandrake 10, Kelvin's distro, is that it does not have file manager super user mode One of my previous posts to the list details a work around for this deficiency. Go to; http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0505/msg00255.html Cheers Ross Drummond On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:09, Roger Searle wrote: If you are needing to browse through the directory structure as a root user, you will have File Manager - Super User Mode somewhere on your menu. (On my suse laptop, I go System File Manager. I'm not sure where it is in Mandrake but I'm sure it is there and similar) Roger
Re: wireless laptop card advice
Sorry, was a dwl-g520 card. Also, my acer lappie works fine with an intel wireless 2200BG minipci card installed. There's a project on sf to support that as well. Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 9:52 pm, Steve Holdoway wrote: The d-link dwl-650 ( I think - I'll check tomorrow ) works fine with madwifi drivers if ou're after a PCI solution. And they're well under $70. Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 9:44 pm, Hadley Rich wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:02, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course this _is_ the more expensive of the two cards on offer (XH6828) Bloody expensive. And DSE don't have anything in PCI. On pricespy[1] there are some Cameo cards listed which advertise the Atheros chipset in their description. I've never heard of them before today. Also, does anyone know of any other chipsets that do the Turbo 108Mbps as far as I can tell at the moment most of the cards that advertise this seem to be based on the Atheros chipset which could be semi-helpful in determining which particular chipset a card uses. [1]http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_4779.html hads -- God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and the Devil runs them by quantum theory on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. -- William Bragg -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice)
I've recently acquired an acer laptop, with built-in intel 2200BG. It works fine when it works, but after 30-60minutes the connection will just disappear. No combination of arcane incantations seem to bring it back up. A reboot will, though. I've googled without much success. Using Ubuntu hoary. On 15/09/05, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, was a dwl-g520 card. Also, my acer lappie works fine with an intel wireless 2200BG minipci card installed. There's a project on sf to support that as well.
[OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
I want to get a new CV/Resume written, and being a bit of a geek I'm not being that good at self-promotion ;-) , so I'd like a little help doing this. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies that produce good 'technical' CV's for IT personnel (programmers in particular) ? Many thanks, David -- Falcon was her name and she was quite the bird of prey, sashaying past her adolescent admirers from one anchor store to another, past the kiosks where earrings longed to lie upon her lobes and sunglasses hoped to nestle on her nose, seemingly the beginning of a beautiful friendship with whomsoever caught the eye of the mall tease, Falcon.
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
My advice: Bite the bullet, and do it yourself. Google for CV's and copy and paste the good bits for yours (as long as they are appropriate!). I know it's not easy saying how wonderful you are, but it's worthwhile learning to do it for your CV. Good CV consulting is expensive. or, equally: Cheap CV consulting is not good. Cheers, Carl. On 15/09/05, david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to get a new CV/Resume written, and being a bit of a geek I'm not being that good at self-promotion ;-) , so I'd like a little help doing this. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies that produce good 'technical' CV's for IT personnel (programmers in particular) ?
Re: Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice)
I set this up a while ago, but it's working and solid. I'm using ipw-firmware version 2.3, software version ipw2200-1.0.4, and wireless tools version 28. Config in /etc/network/interfaces: # Wireless netork auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp pre-up iwconfig eth1 essid * pre-up iwconfig eth1 mode managed pre-up iwconfig eth1 channel 6 pre-up iwconfig eth1 key open ** And that's about it! Installed on debian, so the config files shouldn't be too different. Sounds like your hardware might be suspect? Cheers, Steve On Thu, September 15, 2005 9:40 am, Carl Cerecke wrote: I've recently acquired an acer laptop, with built-in intel 2200BG. It works fine when it works, but after 30-60minutes the connection will just disappear. No combination of arcane incantations seem to bring it back up. A reboot will, though. I've googled without much success. Using Ubuntu hoary. On 15/09/05, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, was a dwl-g520 card. Also, my acer lappie works fine with an intel wireless 2200BG minipci card installed. There's a project on sf to support that as well. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, david merriman wrote: I want to get a new CV/Resume written, and being a bit of a geek I'm not being that good at self-promotion ;-) , so I'd like a little help doing this. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies that produce good 'technical' CV's for IT personnel (programmers in particular) ? You need to change your self image for awhile. Your self image is that of Geek, but when you haven't got a job, have have got a job. Salesman. You're a salesman of a single, big ticket item. Yourself. So for now lose the Geek self image and think of yourself as a Salesman for a rather pricey item. As a Geek you would never say, I can't do tech X, you would say I would love to learn to do tech X. I'm going to sit down and work at it until I can. So you've got a job. Get to it. Sit down and get to work and learn to sell yourself. Once you have sold yourself, you can shuck off that skin and get back to being a comfortable Geek. On the other hand, keep some of the old Salesman personality around, you never know when you are going to need him again to sell your great idea to management, convince a big customer that your tech is best, John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand Carter's Clarification of Murphy's Law. Things only ever go right so that they may go more spectacularly wrong later. From this principle, all of life and physics may be deduced.
Re: My screw up
Tried to do things the Ross way: http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0505/msg00255.html but I couldnt get things to happen for me. Then tried the Edwin way: ** System - Configuration - KDE - System - Login Manager You'll be asked for your root password. Click on the User tab, and then untick root in the Hidden Users box. Logout, and voila! you should have root on the login screen. ** Cheers Edwin, that worked a treat. Now its back to the post by Ross to see what I can do. Regards Kelvyn
Re: My screw up
Please don't log in to X as root. It is a bad practice. Take the earlier advice and use an xterm in kelvyn's login and use su to become root. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:18:36 +1200 motivated wrote: Tried to do things the Ross way: http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0505/msg00255.html but I couldnt get things to happen for me. Then tried the Edwin way: ** System - Configuration - KDE - System - Login Manager You'll be asked for your root password. Click on the User tab, and then untick root in the Hidden Users box. Logout, and voila! you should have root on the login screen. ** Cheers Edwin, that worked a treat. Now its back to the post by Ross to see what I can do. Regards Kelvyn -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My screw up
From Nick: Please don't log in to X as root. It is a bad practice. Take the earlier advice and use an xterm in kelvyn's login and use su to become root. Nick I tried that and I do believe I followed the advice to the 'T', but I still couldnt open half of the directories. What I will do, if it is s bad, is go back to the link Ross gave and post my problems from there. I do not fear working as root, I'm not going to delete anything, and all I'm changing is httpd.conf, possibly my php.ini later, but its only the php, apache, mysql stuff I need access to. Best to learn the correct way of doing things, I guess. Regards Kelvyn.
Re: My screw up
Nick, It is bad/good practice to login as root. If you have multiple things to setup install yast etc then logging in as root is great - saves you typing the root password in all the time. If you want to write files etc in your account, surf the net, join chat rooms, etc (as root) it is bad practice It is one of the steps to learning - you need to make a few mistakes to find things out for yourself. == To become root, it is better to use an xterm and do ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] cause then you can open the graphical tools and do things. You do not have those pesky messages about no permission to open X window type message. Simply doing su - and entering the root password on a suse 9.2 box will mean you cannot open a graphical tool. And, lets face it, there are many times when you do want to open a graphical tools as root on the box (such as ethereal to monitor network traffic). Derek. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Nick Rout wrote: Please don't log in to X as root. It is a bad practice. Take the earlier advice and use an xterm in kelvyn's login and use su to become root. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. Any fool can write code that IndraNet Technologies Ltd.a computer can understand. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good programmers write code ph +64 3 365 6485 that humans can understand. Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/Martin Fowler
Re: My screw up
To become root, it is better to use an xterm and do ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] is more efficient. However, for this to work, you need a correctly configured ssh daemon running on your workstation. This is not always the case in a default install. Specifically, once the sshd software is installed, the sshd_config file ( usually in /etc/ssh ) must contain the line PermitRootLogin yes otherwise it won't work. ( daemon restart is necessary if this change needs to be made ) Steve -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
RE: (Sort of) riser.
www.procase.co.nz is good for that kind of thing. -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2005 5:20 p.m. To: CLUG Subject: OT: (Sort of) riser. Does anyone know where I can get a PCI riser card - single slot, 5cm long? Cheers, Steve -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:44, david merriman wrote: I want to get a new CV/Resume written, and being a bit of a geek I'm not being that good at self-promotion ;-) , so I'd like a little help doing this. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies that produce good 'technical' CV's for IT personnel (programmers in particular) ? Don't forget that your CV will be in a pile of hundreds so you need to make it both stand out from the horde and say 'Buy Me'. Put an 'Executive Summary' on the first page which summarises all the salient facts about you, and then then you can flesh out your life in the following pages. Don't put too much detail, after all you want to whet their curiosity so they call you in for an interview. Also too many details take too long to read and the reader will get bored and flip on to the next candidate. Don't worry about either Gramer or Speeling over much. While a few employers might want to see a work of literature, most would not recognise such a thing even if it slapped them across the face. It's more important to get the message across that you will fit happily into the team, rather than how fantastic your academic qualifications are, because appearing even slightly 'over qualified' will lose you any opportunity to even sniff the air of the interview room. Witness all the superbly qualified professional people who have ended up driving taxis, or running restaurants, etc. etc. -- CS
G cards was RE: wireless laptop card advice
My main problem with 802.11g is there are no good high-power PCMCIA cards with an aerial socket. Anyone can prove me wrong? Most of the miniPCI cards have an aerial socket. -Original Message- From: Hadley Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2005 6:15 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: wireless laptop card advice For a cheap high power (longer range) 802.11b card I'd recommend the SMC SMC2532W-B it's a 200mw card with external antenna connectors based on the Prism chipset, similar to the popular Senao cards.
RE: Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice)
What encryption are you using? If WPA (which you should be) then how do you start wpa_supplicant ? I've had issues with wpa_supplicant where it doesn't hand off from one access point to another for minutes, or doesn't change from work to home or back reliably. And the stupid MS DHCP server at work that only allows one lease value for all reservations :-\ -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:09 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice) I set this up a while ago, but it's working and solid. I'm using ipw-firmware version 2.3, software version ipw2200-1.0.4, and wireless tools version 28. Config in /etc/network/interfaces: # Wireless netork auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp pre-up iwconfig eth1 essid * pre-up iwconfig eth1 mode managed pre-up iwconfig eth1 channel 6 pre-up iwconfig eth1 key open ** And that's about it! Installed on debian, so the config files shouldn't be too different. Sounds like your hardware might be suspect? Cheers, Steve On Thu, September 15, 2005 9:40 am, Carl Cerecke wrote: I've recently acquired an acer laptop, with built-in intel 2200BG. It works fine when it works, but after 30-60minutes the connection will just disappear. No combination of arcane incantations seem to bring it back up. A reboot will, though. I've googled without much success. Using Ubuntu hoary. On 15/09/05, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, was a dwl-g520 card. Also, my acer lappie works fine with an intel wireless 2200BG minipci card installed. There's a project on sf to support that as well. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Re: My screw up
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:54:26 +1200 (NZST) Derek Smithies wrote: To become root, it is better to use an xterm and do ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] cause then you can open the graphical tools and do things. You do not have those pesky messages about no permission to open X window type message. Simply doing su - and entering the root password on a suse 9.2 box will mean you cannot open a graphical tool. And, lets face it, there are many times when you do want to open a graphical tools as root on the box (such as ethereal to monitor network traffic). sux - will give you the ability to run X apps. However i thought that all kelvyn wanted to do was edit httpd.conf. You don't need any X tools to do that. Thats why i suggested using su. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
I beg to differ... if theres a grammer or spelling mistake in a CV here it gets lowered in value, which could be the difference between a shortlist and not shortlisted. Maybe that's different in business though. The purpose of a CV is to get you an interview. -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:37 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers Don't worry about either Gramer or Speeling over much. While a few employers might want to see a work of literature, most would not recognise such a thing even if it slapped them across the face.
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:45, Craig FALCONER wrote: grammer The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide] grammer \grammer\ (gr[a^]mm[~e]r) n. Grammar; -- a common misspelling. [Misspelling] [PJC] :-) My point precisely I think. -- CS
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
I thoroughly agree (with Craig). Most employers are of a generation where spelling and grammar are still valued, I am talking people over, say, 40. (Generalisations abound I'm afraid). While I can tolerate spelling mistakes in open source documentation written as an afterthought at 3.00 am by a Czechoslovakian or American, I wouldn't expect a spelling error in a CV, even from the same programmer. I regularly receive CV's from Germans looking to spend their three month elective working in a law office in NZ. Their spelling and grammar are usually perfect. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:45:23 +1200 Craig FALCONER wrote: I beg to differ... if theres a grammer or spelling mistake in a CV here it gets lowered in value, which could be the difference between a shortlist and not shortlisted. Maybe that's different in business though. The purpose of a CV is to get you an interview. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LOL slashdot, second item onthe rss list: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/14/194218from=rss On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:01:40 +1200 Nick Rout wrote: Grammar blah blah Spelling blah blah
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
I regularly receive CV's from Germans looking to spend their threemonth elective working in a law office in NZ. Their spelling and grammar are usually perfect. Having attended an English class at a German school I don't find that surprising. I attended the equivalent of a 7th from level class and they all spoke better English than I number of people* I know in New Zealandand were studying a book, which I can't remember the name of, of which all I remember is that guaranteed every 10 words would contain at least 1 I'd never heard of before, and they were reading it fine. :S Along the lines of this tho I understand it is not uncommon in certain areas to come across txt shorthand in CVs (ie 'hope 2 hear from U soon') and I'm going to suggest it's an unwise idea should you be tempted. ;P --Slosh* Needless to say I mean people who speak English as a first language.
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:01, Nick Rout wrote: I regularly receive CV's from Germans looking to spend their three month elective working in a law office in NZ. Their spelling and grammar are usually perfect. Ah. But they are actually taught the grammar of the English Language in all it's glorious detail as part of of their curriculum. It just doesn't happen in most of the English speaking world. e.g. who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up. -- CS
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On 9/15/05, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah. But they are actually taught the grammar of the English Language in all it's glorious detail as part of of their curriculum. It just doesn't happen in most of the English speaking world. Perhaps the curriculum should be extended so that it does then? This is one of my arguments when I'm trying to tell someone they should learn a foreign language, particularly if it's one of the indo-european branch. e.g. who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up. It looks _really_ familiar.. it involves verbs right? --Slosh
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:32:56 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: . who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up. Given the identity of the poser of the question, I thought it might have come from the same root as geriatric, ;-) looking it up proved otherwise. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 12:32 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Ah. But they are actually taught the grammar of the English Language in all it's glorious detail as part of of their curriculum. It just doesn't happen in most of the English speaking world. e.g. who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up. I have found that people, regardless their age, are often confused about grammar. Many are not aware of the difference between three full-stops and ellipsis, the different uses of commas, and the different types of dashes. The GNOME Documentation Style Guide (to go slightly on-topic) explicitly forbids apostrophes because they are commonly used incorrectly! My favourite grammar question annoys many wingers: what is a person from Canterbury called? -- Michael JasonSmithhttp://ldots.org/
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who over 30 can? i sure can't... Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:01, Nick Rout wrote: I regularly receive CV's from Germans looking to spend their three month elective working in a law office in NZ. Their spelling and grammar are usually perfect. Ah. But they are actually taught the grammar of the English Language in all it's glorious detail as part of of their curriculum. It just doesn't happen in most of the English speaking world. e.g. who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up.
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:54:49 +1200 Michael JasonSmith wrote: My favourite grammar question annoys many wingers: what is a person from Canterbury called? One-eyed? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice)
Ah. None. Hangs head in shame Haven't got encryption to work yet. Although I do restrict connections by MAC address (better than nothing, I guess). Cheers, Carl. On 15/09/05, Craig FALCONER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What encryption are you using? If WPA (which you should be) then how do you start wpa_supplicant ? I've had issues with wpa_supplicant where it doesn't hand off from one access point to another for minutes, or doesn't change from work to home or back reliably. And the stupid MS DHCP server at work that only allows one lease value for all reservations :-\ -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:09 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Intel 2200bg dropping connection ( was Re: wireless laptop card advice) I set this up a while ago, but it's working and solid. I'm using ipw-firmware version 2.3, software version ipw2200-1.0.4, and wireless tools version 28. Config in /etc/network/interfaces: # Wireless netork auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp pre-up iwconfig eth1 essid * pre-up iwconfig eth1 mode managed pre-up iwconfig eth1 channel 6 pre-up iwconfig eth1 key open ** And that's about it! Installed on debian, so the config files shouldn't be too different. Sounds like your hardware might be suspect? Cheers, Steve On Thu, September 15, 2005 9:40 am, Carl Cerecke wrote: I've recently acquired an acer laptop, with built-in intel 2200BG. It works fine when it works, but after 30-60minutes the connection will just disappear. No combination of arcane incantations seem to bring it back up. A reboot will, though. I've googled without much success. Using Ubuntu hoary. On 15/09/05, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, was a dwl-g520 card. Also, my acer lappie works fine with an intel wireless 2200BG minipci card installed. There's a project on sf to support that as well. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
Re: G cards was RE: wireless laptop card advice
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:34, Craig FALCONER wrote: My main problem with 802.11g is there are no good high-power PCMCIA cards with an aerial socket. Anyone can prove me wrong? Most of the miniPCI cards have an aerial socket. Nope, I can't prove you wrong. I've been searching for a good high power g card too. Senao do some 200mW g cards[1] but none of them have external aerial connectors and I haven't seen any available in NZ. My dream card at the moment would be a 200mW g card with a built in antenna and external connector(s) much like the SMC b card I have now except g [1]http://www.senao.com/english/product/product_wireless01_outdoor.asp?pgtl=Wirelesstp1id=02tp2id=07 hads -- It's a classic Pinzer maneuver; it can't fail against a bunch of ten-year-olds! -- Herman in Bart the General
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:54:49 +1200 Michael JasonSmith wrote: y favourite grammar question annoys many wingers: what is a person from Canterbury called? One-eyed? He tangata o Waitaha. And if you can't accept an Official Language, go to hell. C/C++ -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
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I have had hundreds of interviews this year, so I've become quite the expert at getting to the top of the list (just don't ask me how to have a successful interview). The most important thing is not the CV, it's the covering letter (often the contents of the email, with the Word/PDF CV attached). Some people don't even look at your CV! The art of the covering letter is to make your skills and experience match what was asked for in the advertisement. Perfectly. Don't lie, just be positive! I think my problem is that I'm great at making myself look wonderful on paper, then my social ineptitudes make me fail at the interview stage (I become shy and reserved and curl up into my shell). Perhaps I should drink more caffeine before interviews? Gareth.
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Join a toastmasters club. I'm serious. I joined one this year, and have found it very useful to work on the sort of social ineptitudes common to geeks. The club I go to, Woolston toasmasters club, meets on Monday evenings, but there's about 20 or more around Christchurch if the time/venue don't suit. Check out www.toastmasters.org.nz for more details. Perhaps if we get some geeks along to a toastmasters club we can have more (and better quality) presentations at CLUG meetings. Cheers, Carl. On 15/09/05, Gareth Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had hundreds of interviews this year, so I've become quite the expert at getting to the top of the list (just don't ask me how to have a successful interview). The most important thing is not the CV, it's the covering letter (often the contents of the email, with the Word/PDF CV attached). Some people don't even look at your CV! The art of the covering letter is to make your skills and experience match what was asked for in the advertisement. Perfectly. Don't lie, just be positive! I think my problem is that I'm great at making myself look wonderful on paper, then my social ineptitudes make me fail at the interview stage (I become shy and reserved and curl up into my shell). Perhaps I should drink more caffeine before interviews? Gareth.
Re: My screw up
Hi, sux - will give you the ability to run X apps. However i thought that all kelvyn wanted to do was edit httpd.conf. You don't need any X tools to do that. Thats why i suggested using su. Agreed - he does not need to run X tools for what he wants. But not quite. many people feel more comfortable running gui editors than ones like vi/emacs/pine etc. Agreed also that ssh may not work cause there is no ssh server running. However, one is always aware that people will read our answers, and attempt to apply them to their problem (which will be different to Kelvyn's problem.) Derek. == -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. Any fool can write code that IndraNet Technologies Ltd.a computer can understand. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good programmers write code ph +64 3 365 6485 that humans can understand. Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/Martin Fowler
Re: My screw up
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:46, motivated wrote: From Nick: Please don't log in to X as root. It is a bad practice. Whilst that was without doubt true in the past X-11 has improved markedly in recent times, so much so that I am happy to use X-11 as root for specific tasks. I don't do it often though. Take the earlier advice and use an xterm in kelvyn's login and use su to become root. Nick I tried that and I do believe I followed the advice to the 'T', but I still couldnt open half of the directories. You can't be the root user then. Is the character at the end of the bash prompt a # or a $ ? What do the commands:- whoami who am i or even the simple 'id' command have to say on the matter? I don't know which distro. you are using and to what extent they have altered the standard KDE menus, but there are sometimes entries for Konqueror and Konsole to run as the root user. You have to input the root password to activate them. I find them both useful, I expect you would too. Try K - System - More Applications. You might find them in there. -- CS
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e.g. who under the age of 30 on this list can tell us what a gerund is -- without looking it up. I can. :) grave action=dig owner=self You might want to investigate the use of apostrophies between the letters it and s... ;) /grave Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 15:49 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: grave action=dig owner=self You might want to investigate the use of apostrophies between the letters it and s... ;) /grave boot position=shaky Starting a sentence with a conjunctive, rather than a conjunct, is often frowned on, too. /boot [I will stop now, as I am not holier than thou!] -- Michael JasonSmithhttp://ldots.org/
RE: G cards was RE: wireless laptop card advice
There exist 400 mW mini PCI cards - maybe a good time to get a laptop upgrade. Acer sempron (god thats a dodgy name) for $1099 with a $100 rebate. Sub-$1k notebook. -Original Message- From: Hadley Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2005 1:12 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: G cards was RE: wireless laptop card advice On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:34, Craig FALCONER wrote: My main problem with 802.11g is there are no good high-power PCMCIA cards with an aerial socket. Anyone can prove me wrong? Most of the miniPCI cards have an aerial socket. Nope, I can't prove you wrong. I've been searching for a good high power g card too. Senao do some 200mW g cards[1] but none of them have external aerial connectors and I haven't seen any available in NZ. My dream card at the moment would be a 200mW g card with a built in antenna and external connector(s) much like the SMC b card I have now except g [1]http://www.senao.com/english/product/product_wireless01_outdoor.asp?pgtl= Wirelesstp1id=02tp2id=07 hads -- It's a classic Pinzer maneuver; it can't fail against a bunch of ten-year-olds! -- Herman in Bart the General
