I know I did one hour later when I realized my question was foolish,
at least foolish to ask that before trying exactly what you wrote...
let's say I was too tired, ok? ;)
Too much World of Warcraft I suppose ...
2007/1/29, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:31:11AM
Mmm I might program just that but it will not come before a time and
would be specific to Pentax (at first, at least).
BTW anybody knows where to find EXIF specifications ?
2007/1/28, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone know of an EXIF editor that will allow you to insert/edit *all*
the
On 28/01/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know of an EXIF editor that will allow you to insert/edit *all*
the EXIF tags? I'm looking for something to do this and everything that
I've tried so far (admittedly not much) only permits editing of a few
things like dates. I want to
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:31:11AM +0100, Thibouille wrote:
Mmm I might program just that but it will not come before a time and
would be specific to Pentax (at first, at least).
BTW anybody knows where to find EXIF specifications ?
Well, the two most obvious things to do would be:
1) Try
I will resume C++ as being a layer over C but half-broken due tu
compatibility reason with C whoch is itself ASM with a layer supposed
to let it look like a normal language but really is only ASM.
Well that's how I see it. But C++ is not that difficult to read, if
you rememer you read a sort of
I will resume C++ as being a layer over C but half-broken due tu
compatibility reason with C whoch is itself ASM with a layer supposed
to let it look like a normal language but really is only ASM.
Speaking of unparseable... :)
-Cory
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Cory, you definitely did not read Leo Tolstoy in original form. Half a
page of printed text being a single sentence is not uncommon. Compared
to that, everything else is just three word sentence ;-).
On 1/28/07, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will resume C++ as being a layer over C
Thibouille wrote:
I have to produce a software as a final evaluation of my computer
sciences studies.
Exif/ipct collecting from files?
How about a full Exif for pentax cameras, including maker's marks?
I've not seen anything like that before. Might be suitable for an
undergrad kind of
Tolstoy has nothing on Victor Hugo!
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Subject: Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Cory, you
Do you read French??? I thought you were from that island, what is its
name again? ;-)
On 1/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Do you read French??? I thought you were from that island, what is
its
name again? ;-)
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Tolstoy has nothing on Victor Hugo!
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Anyone know of an EXIF editor that will allow you to insert/edit *all*
the EXIF tags? I'm looking for something to do this and everything that
I've tried so far (admittedly not much) only permits editing of a few
things like dates. I want to be able to change camera data, ISO,
everything.
The
ExifTool.
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/index.html
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:35:16PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
Anyone know of an EXIF editor that will allow you to insert/edit *all*
the EXIF tags? I'm looking for something to do this and everything that
I've tried so
ExifTool.
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/index.html
Beat me to it. Exiftool will pretty much let you read/write
whatever you want... of course if the tags are unknown and/or proprietary
you'll have to do it as raw data. For normal things like ISO, etc it
should be
In case anyone's interested, here's one example (check the EXIF data):
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d501705.jpg
Mark Roberts wrote:
The reason for this weird request is that I'm currently sending
material so a soon-to-be-public online photo gallery and their image
submission system checks
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:13:02PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Well, my hat's off to both you and Boris.
C++ is simply impenetrable to me. I find it a seriously damaged,
bloated language with too much overloaded stuff added to support high
level features . . .
I'd agree with that.
Mark,
Anyone know of an EXIF editor that will allow you to insert/edit *all*
the EXIF tags? I'm looking for something to do this and everything that
I've tried so far (admittedly not much) only permits editing of a few
things like dates. I want to be able to change camera data, ISO,
have done so.
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Peter,
P. J. Alling wrote:
IIRC
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:59:05 -0500, John Francis wrote:
Writing a utility that can perform wildcard and/or directory tree
operations in a cross-platform manner will be difficult enough.
If he will be using 'C' I can supply a generic wildcard/treewalk
function that uses a callback function that
Lisp is truly beautiful, you have to try to see its beauty. The concept
of a program that can write itself at run-time and then be evaluated
(executed) is truly brilliant. Given the time when it was envisioned...
I've never coded it, but I've seen it. They syntax makes it
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I don't code much, and when I do it's generally low-level
hardware-in-the-loop, realtime stuff. For that, C is about perfect
IMO... all the power and flexibility of assembly, with the ease of use
of... assembly.
C is assembly in a whore's outfit. That's what
I don't code much, and when I do it's generally low-level
hardware-in-the-loop, realtime stuff. For that, C is about perfect
IMO... all the power and flexibility of assembly, with the ease of use
of... assembly.
C is assembly in a whore's outfit. That's what I love about it. ;-)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't care about beauty, I
care about readability and understandability.
I find well written, well formatted Lisp to be quite readable. Same
for C, Pascal, BASIC, and even FORTRAN up to a point. Even good
assembly language can be readable.
C++ gives
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:22AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't care about beauty, I
care about readability and understandability.
I find well written, well formatted Lisp to be quite readable. Same
for C, Pascal, BASIC, and even FORTRAN up
On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:08 AM, John Francis wrote:
... Mind you, the important qualifier there is well-written. ...
Aside from the fact that I think you're the *only* person who ever
said to me that they found C++ easy to read, I agree with this part
100%. That said, it's easy to make a mess
think even Turing may have done so.
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Bob
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Subject: Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Peter
On 1/27/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:22AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't care about beauty, I
care about readability and understandability.
I find well written, well formatted Lisp to be quite
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:22:24PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:08 AM, John Francis wrote:
... Mind you, the important qualifier there is well-written. ...
Aside from the fact that I think you're the *only* person who ever
said to me that they found C++ easy to
Godfrey, it seems I haven't raised my hand here So here I am - one
hand up - yes C++ is easy to read if a person who wrote it *knew * what
they was writing and they *knew* they were writing for a another person,
not the compiler ;-).
Boris
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 27, 2007, at
Well, my hat's off to both you and Boris.
I was writing OO code in the early-middle 1980s, taught several
classes on the subject, and was an OOPSLA conferree. I won several
citations for code style at various times with both linear and OO
projects.
C++ is simply impenetrable to me. I find
Godfrey,
LOL ...
My personal predilections come into play. I'd much rather write
straightforward C code than any kind of Java or C++ ... mostly
because I'm much more familiar with it and it has always proved to be
far more portable and easier to compile and link on any system if I
Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually.
As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or
less just that.
I accept your opinion about software engineering here. My proposal about
Java was directed more or less towards the same goal.
Boris
Gonz
Thibouille, I have a proposal but indeed it requires an approval of
another club member.
Perhaps you could pair with John Francis and come up with nice GUI and
may be handful of extensions for his program that analyzes Pentax RAW
file headers. Ultimately, this could becomes an open source
On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
... Well, you're older than me, aren't you? ;-)
Based on the self portrait you posted recently, yes. By a bit...
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On 1/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually.
Sounds interesting, I'll check into it.
As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or
less just that.
The statistics part I suggested was more or
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually.
Sounds interesting, I'll check into it.
As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested -
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant
roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it
introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other
On 1/23/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, choice of programming language and envrionment will be harder.
I have no experience in Java (but it looks like it should be doable).
I'm more C++/Delphi. Graphical library for the GUI part will also be
tricky.
Any recommendation for a
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant
roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it
introduced and
On 1/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant
roots. The data =
Robert, this time I am totally on your side.
Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant
roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant
roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the
On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Ok, geeky trivia time ... which came first, LISP or FORTRAN? And no
peeking at google.com... ;-)
Godders, every progra-toddler knows that Fortran was the first
symbolic
programming language after machine code and assembly. Lisp came in
IIRC LISP came first. I find it's notation annoying at best and
impenetrable at worst.
C and C++ were elegant, until such things a Templates, (with their
particularly un-C like syntax), were grafted onto the language.
Now ForTran that was man's language.
Scott Loveless wrote:
On 1/26/07,
Damn, should have looked it up.
Boris Liberman wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of the truly unique and
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Scott Loveless wrote:
On 1/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language.
Its IMO one of
Personally I always preferred the bumper-sticker slogan:
Real Programmers can write FORTRAN in any language
(sometimes seen with assembly code instead of FORTRAN)
there's a lot of truth in that. If you can program in one procedural
language, you can program in them all. Similarly, if
I worked with them both, sorta, in 1965-66 timeframe. My sense is that
FORTRAN was the new kid on the block...
On Jan 26, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote:
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only a Lisp bigot would call it
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:13:06AM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:
Thibouille, I have a proposal but indeed it requires an approval of
another club member.
Perhaps you could pair with John Francis and come up with nice GUI and
may be handful of extensions for his program that analyzes Pentax
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IIRC LISP came first. I find it's notation annoying at best and
impenetrable at worst.
Its one of those you get it, or you dont type of languages. In our
first semester of Computer Science, when we were introduced, there
were lots of people in
On 26/01/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, as much as most hate it, I rather like FORTRAN. If you can't do
it in Fortran, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it in
assembly language, it isn't worth doing. Please see:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
Well, you're obviously right.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Ok, geeky trivia time ... which came first, LISP or FORTRAN? And no
peeking at google.com... ;-)
Godders, every progra-toddler knows that Fortran was the first
symbolic
programming
Peter,
P. J. Alling wrote:
IIRC LISP came first. I find it's notation annoying at best and
impenetrable at worst.
C and C++ were elegant, until such things a Templates, (with their
particularly un-C like syntax), were grafted onto the language.
Now ForTran that was man's language.
I will repsond to a couple points..
* It is indeed academic: it is a final evaluation of a bachelor which
means 3 years studies (precision because those things tends to change
quite much from country to country).
* The usual software student do provide (because in line with the
school program so
This isn't a suggestion, but I'd love a colour manged web browser for Windows.
Cheers,
Dave
On 1/24/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to produce a software as a final evaluation of my computer
sciences studies.
Of course, nothing like a RAW converter etc. but maybe there a
Java is an interesting solution to cross platform implementation
language, but a can of worms in many ways. Java language interpreters
installed on client systems seems to be all over the map version-
wise, which affects compatibility, features, portability, etc.
Writing and testing Java
Godfrey, my point being that Java can be used in order to create
*reasonably* portable and *reasonably* cross platform code. After all
we're talking educational project here, not fully blown industrial
development effort.
I agree with your analysis, but in order for Thibouille to concentrate
You didnt specify what level of effort you are talking about. 3 man
months, 6 man months, a man year? Also the expectations. Is this a
single course project, Bachelor's thesis, Masters?
With all due respect to others who have gotten into a discussion of the
merits of portability, language
LOL ...
My personal predilections come into play. I'd much rather write
straightforward C code than any kind of Java or C++ ... mostly
because I'm much more familiar with it and it has always proved to be
far more portable and easier to compile and link on any system if I
was rigorous
I have to produce a software as a final evaluation of my computer
sciences studies.
Of course, nothing like a RAW converter etc. but maybe there a couple
things which would be handy to have in a little software?
Conversions? (focal length, DOF...)
Inventory? (lenses, bodies, film, memory cards,
How about a database to automatically catalog digital photo files on the
computer using the embedded info with the only manual input being an
optional caption?
-graywolf
Thibouille wrote:
I have to produce a software as a final evaluation of my computer
sciences studies.
Of course, nothing
An excellent computer science study exercise would be to write
something that will digest a large volume of digital capture images'
EXIF data. I'd like a utility like this to
- store the significant bits of EXIF and IPTC data coordinated with
file name and location for easy accessibility
-
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
An excellent computer science study exercise would be to write
something that will digest a large volume of digital capture
images' EXIF data. I'd like a utility like this to
- store the significant bits of EXIF and IPTC data coordinated with
file name and
On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
An excellent computer science study exercise would be to write
something that will digest a large volume of digital capture
images' EXIF data. I'd like a utility like this to
- store the significant bits of EXIF and
List weirdness I got your response to Godfrey message, got followinf
Godfrey message but notthe first one to which your reponded... :|
All those are pretty interesting idea I have to admit :)
Now, choice of programming language and envrionment will be harder.
I have no experience in Java (but it
On Jan 23, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Thibouille wrote:
List weirdness I got your response to Godfrey message, got followinf
Godfrey message but notthe first one to which your reponded... :|
All those are pretty interesting idea I have to admit :)
Now, choice of programming language and
Hi!
Here is a something I planned to do sometime, but never got the time to
actually implement:
- Feed the software a bunch of DNG files (or other RAW format, but
preferably DNG ;-) )
- It will scan each file, and based on lens identifier, focal length,
approximate focusing distance, and
get to use it afterwards to keep
track of your images...
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Subject: Interest in developing a software around photograhy
Thibouille, if you want easy way of this burden, you may want to learn
Java. If you know C++/Delphi, it will not be much of a problem. Then you
can write your GUI and interface with OS low level in Java which
theoretically should be cross platform.
Otherwise, if you want to stick to C++, then
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