Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-23 Thread P.J. Alling
Forget it Bob, it's the internet. On 3/23/2015 12:10 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT! WHO'S A RAVING LUNATIC. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com wrote: it's interesting how these internet forums and anonymity bring out the worst in those with

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT! WHO'S A RAVING LUNATIC. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com wrote: it's interesting how these internet forums and anonymity bring out the worst in those with personality disorders. These people seem normal (based on the fact that they're

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
: -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I don't recall the exact year, but I was around for Shel

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 22 March 2015 16:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I stumbled into the pdml, probably thru the Pentax website. There was some overlap with 'the who' (who I

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: I stumbled into the pdml, probably thru the Pentax website. There was some overlap with 'the who' (who I never understood) and many flame wars, which I participated in and even prolonged in many cases. Bill Robb became a special friend as he refused

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread Tom Reese
it's interesting how these internet forums and anonymity bring out the worst in those with personality disorders. These people seem normal (based on the fact that they're apparently still running around loose) but they turn into raving lunatics when they get behind a keyboard. On Sun, Mar 22,

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com wrote: it's interesting how these internet forums and anonymity bring out the worst in those with personality disorders. And Canadians, its maple syrup season people. Dave These people seem normal (based on the fact that

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-22 Thread Bill
On 22/03/2015 4:27 PM, Tom Reese wrote: it's interesting how these internet forums and anonymity bring out the worst in those with personality disorders. These people seem normal (based on the fact that they're apparently still running around loose) but they turn into raving lunatics when they

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Malcolm Smith
Steve Harley wrote: it's not private, it's just that the archives are not well-positioned for search engines, but i get hits on them sometimes http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/ and there is also a non-official archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/ ...and I wonder

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread John
Google buying the archive didn't kill UseNet, but combining it with Gmail their own non-Usenet Google Groups didn't help. I think what may have really done it was the difficulty of creating a killfile that would work with the web interface. It was my own ISP's decision to no longer provide

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 19, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: The PDML may not be as active as it used to be, but it still is a wonderful place and let's all hope it is here to stay for a long time. Ralf I just did five cartwheels and a reverse triple twist pointy toe back

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: It's the Hotel California of mail lists. All we need to do is wave the warm smell of Colitas and the promise of a dark desert highway in front of them and they will see our shimmering light. And then, they are ours.

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Christine Aguila
I must have heard about it on the Pentax web site—or maybe I did a search and found it—not sure exactly. I probably subscripted around late 2007 or early 2008, but I lurked for a bit. I might have started participating in late 2008ish. I just did a search: pentax cameras, pentax forums,

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: On 19/03/15 14:39, Rick Womer wrote: I found the list on the Pentax web site when Pentax owned it. Then in 1994 we went on sabbatical, and I could only get it through expensive trans-Atlantic dial-up, so I unsubscribed. I

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Attila Boros
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: So, in five years, active members are down by half, and the number of posts is down by 3/4. Interesting statistics, it would seem the remaining members are trying to make up for it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Attila Boros
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? Strange of you to ask :) I was searching on the interwebs and found this page with some useful links: http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm -- PDML

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 3/21/2015 09:45, Christine Aguila wrote: On Mar 19, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: The PDML may not be as active as it used to be, but it still is a wonderful place and let's all hope it is here to stay for a long time. Ralf I just did five cartwheels

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Toralf Lund
On 21/03/15 14:56, Christine Aguila wrote: On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: On 19/03/15 14:39, Rick Womer wrote: I found the list on the Pentax web site when Pentax owned it. Then in 1994 we went on sabbatical, and I could only get it through expensive

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone* would even learn

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I don't recall the exact year, but I

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv: On 20/3/15, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, here it is: http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.htm If anyone cares to update the link in 'Cotty's Hat' section, here you go: http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html Anyone?

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bruce wrote: Man you mentioning Who and Bill mentioning Mafud brings back memories that had been successfully suppressed. Alas, I may not sleep too well tonight. The PDML is a far less volatile place than it once was. I used to wake up, switch on the dial up internet connection and gaze

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/3/15, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, here it is: http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.htm If anyone cares to update the link in 'Cotty's Hat' section, here you go: http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Bruce
: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings. The web-based DP Review Pentax Forums are easy to find for people looking for info on their new cameras and for help with problems. Also PDML has morphed

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Yolanda Rowe
I found PDML in fall 2004. After two years of dealing with the frustrations of a digital PS, I started my search. The catalogs were filled with digiR*b*l information. I was leaning in that direction because it's what was readily available. I decided to check to see if Pentax had an offering. The

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:15:46 +0100 Toralf Lund wrote: On 19/03/15 14:27, Paul Stenquist wrote: Only us oldsters know what Shel-like means.:-) Thought I hadn't been here *that* long, but I think I know. I remember Shel too, joined in the late nineties, still using film (MX and LX). Later I went

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: steve harley wrote: On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote: Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John Coyle
: Where is everyone? On 19/03/2015 6:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a memorable character. I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it goes a bit beyond memorable. There were others, much much worse, whoo shall not be named... Oh come on, let's name them!

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Bill
On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a memorable character. I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it goes a bit beyond memorable. Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark C
On 3/20/2015 8:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a memorable character. I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it goes a bit beyond memorable. I was off list for a year or two in the early

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: There is an info page of sorts - the PDML FAQ. It was put together originally by Graywolf and updated by Scott when he was PUGmeister. I sort of inherited it when I took over the PUG. I tinkered with it a bit and used to post the link from time to time but I've

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/3/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Brad Bobo (am I getting that name right?) Dobo. I like Bobo better though -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark C wrote: Then Norm revealed his true identity and collapsed in a fit of laughter. (Later, some time around 1:00 in the morning, we phoned up Cotty to say hello... and ni!) I think it was closer to 2 am.:-)

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread steve harley
On 2015-03-19 17:41 , Bill wrote: Because it's a private email list, I suspect we would have to involve Doug and see if we can get ourselves on some search engines. it's not private, it's just that the archives are not well-positioned for search engines, but i get hits on them sometimes

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling
On 3/20/2015 8:53 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 20/3/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Brad Bobo (am I getting that name right?) Dobo. I like Bobo better though It's not nice to make fun of the clinically insane, not that I wouldn't do it. -- I don't want to achieve

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling
On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a memorable character. I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it goes a bit beyond memorable. Yeah, lets

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Brian Walters wrote: There is an info page of sorts - the PDML FAQ. It was put together originally by Graywolf and updated by Scott when he was PUGmeister. I sort of inherited it when I took over the PUG. I tinkered with it a bit and used to

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread steve harley
On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote: Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut down their news servers. Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it someday), but doesn't

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John
] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 8:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think I found it in 1997, probably by doing a search for Pentax information on the Web - whether it was Google or not I can't now remember. I stay with the group because: I

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John
On 3/19/2015 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone*

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: steve harley wrote: On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote: Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut down their news

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
steve harley wrote: On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote: Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut down their news servers. Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 19 March 2015 at 23:42, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/03/2015 6:12 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Seriously if I hung out regularly at any of the other Pentax fora or for that matter Nikon or Canon groups I'd have invented a way to teleport bombs through the internet by now.

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a memorable character. I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:03 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 March 2015 at 23:42, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/03/2015 6:12 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Seriously if I hung out regularly at any of the other Pentax fora or for that matter Nikon or Canon groups

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20 March 2015 at 22:16, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark C wrote: I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:18 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20 March 2015 at 22:16, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Just glanced at this thread. There are 98 posts in it. Whew! Now I know where everyone is: sitting at their computers, smart phones, or tablets… G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Larry Colen
Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone* would even learn of the

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bill
On 19/03/2015 8:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, I got a bit of Shel shock early on, but soon felt the warmth of some fellow posters. Can everyone please just stop mentioning him? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone* would even learn of the PDML's existence these

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread mike wilson
Top up my pension fund for me and I'll post until your eyes bleed. On 19 March 2015 at 02:03, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Lately I've noticed that the volume of PDML posts is way down. So, being off this week and having some spare time, I did some research in the archives. In

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread P.J. Alling
Part of the problem is we're not Pentax Fanboys here. On a lot of the Fora, brand is everything, id doesn't matter what the brand ultimately does to you, and some users will even advocate for changes that will render their previous investment at worst useless. Now that's brand loyalty. I

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings. The web-based DP Review Pentax Forums are easy to find for people looking for info on their new cameras and for help with problems. Also PDML has morphed

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread P.J. Alling
What do you mean starting? On 3/18/2015 11:55 PM, David Mann wrote: I've noticed the same thing. I put it down to the spam filtering issues that have been affecting users of some ISPs lately but maybe it's just that we're starting to smell bad. Cheers, Dave On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:03 pm,

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
The general relationship with the digital age has become more routine. Interest peaks have flattened. Jack - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bill
On 19/03/2015 6:12 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Seriously if I hung out regularly at any of the other Pentax fora or for that matter Nikon or Canon groups I'd have invented a way to teleport bombs through the internet by now. That's a Mark. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread John Coyle
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 8:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think I found it in 1997, probably by doing a search for Pentax information on the Web - whether

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Mark C
I stumbled into the PDML from the official Pentax website as well. The first post I read was by the now keeper of the list regarding shooting an alligator That was a while ago. On 3/19/2015 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:03:42 -0400 Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: How do we keep both new and existing members? i joined sometime late 2006 when i had got myself a k50/1.2 without having a pentax camera and googled for info about the lens and came upon pdml archives. well, one

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bill
On 19/03/2015 6:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone*

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Unhappily, my tastes and the group's tastes don't intersect much anymore… OK, so I mostly do Nature and Scenic shots, with Wildlife

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com: to reduce the slide: remember that rudeness turns people off (not aimed at anyone at all - a general observation from many forums over many years) try to help when people ask for it people participate because the list is informative, entertaining and

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: I was never much of a gear head, and I'm even less so now, so gear chat generally bores me. My chief reason for hanging out in any photography forum is images; both viewing and sharing. Unhappily, my

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Mark C
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings. The web-based DP Review Pentax Forums are easy to find for people looking for info on their new cameras

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bill
On 18/03/2015 8:03 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Lately I've noticed that the volume of PDML posts is way down. So, being off this week and having some spare time, I did some research in the archives. In January 2015, there were 1234 posts from 52 members. In January 2014, there were 2587 posts from 74

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bill
On 19/03/2015 1:18 PM, wendy beard wrote: I bet that's how I found the PDML too. Through Boz's page. I've been on the list for at least 15 years, mostly lurking. I have also met 3 PDMLers. And you were very brave about it too. The boy has settled down a lot, but he is still an ass with

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 19.03.15 um 03:03 schrieb Rick Womer: So, in five years, active members are down by half, and the number of posts is down by 3/4. In the early days of the PDML (don't even remember when I joined), there were very few internet forums. Now, there are dozens. They seem to have more appeal,

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I found the list on the Pentax web site when Pentax owned it. Then in 1994 we went on sabbatical, and I could only get it through expensive trans-Atlantic dial-up, so I unsubscribed. I looked

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
The PDML is like an overnight bus journey with a garrulous drunk. Yeah but the scenery has been pretty interesting ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com Subject: Re: Where is everyone? On 19 Mar

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
I've been reduced to taking cat photos. Yo... MARK ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Subject: Re: Where is everyone? It’s been so cold the last few months I haven’t even wanted to go

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca wrote: I've been reduced to taking cat photos. Your Auto-Correct must have been off ... I'm privileged to be able to take cat photos. That's better. :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
I'm privileged to be able to take cat photos. Ahem. MARK ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Where is everyone? On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Steve Sharpe d

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Unhappily, my tastes and the group's tastes don't intersect much anymore… OK, so I mostly do Nature and Scenic shots, with Wildlife thrown in. Sometimes the shapes and forms are my focus, sometimes it is the

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Marco Alpert
I think it was Google for me. I’d never owned a Pentax camera, but in early 2005, while deciding what was to be my first DSLR, I met a friend of mine from Japan at a trade how and he’d just bought an *istDS and let me hold it and it just felt “right.” So I got one. I must have found the PDML

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
flattened. Jack - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings. The web-based

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Rick Womer
has become more routine. Interest peaks have flattened. Jack - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think there are several reasons

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bob W-PDML
I googled (or whatever passed for googling in those days - it was through the PDML that I learned about Google's early existence) because the mirror in my LX kept sticking up. I should have let it be. B On 19 Mar 2015, at 12:54, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Serious

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Same here. Found it on the Pentax website. Paul via phone On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
Mark Roberts wrote: I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone* would even learn of the PDML's existence these days. So very long ago, I can't remember. Many folk now seem to like web

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Serious question: How did you find out about the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
source of info/expertise related to Pentax products then. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
I read about the PDML in Tim Bray's blog, back when he was a Pentax user. It was summer 2007, and I had just bought (or was just about to buy) my first DSLR, a K100D Super, and I could see that the level of discourse here was smarter than dpreview et al. I was never much of a gear head, and I'm

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 3/19/2015 08:53, Mark Roberts wrote: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) Piping in seriously... I sold a 300mm Pentax lens I couldn't handhold anymore back in 1999 to a man named Terry in British Columbia.. we chatted a bit -

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
relationship with the digital age has become more routine. Interest peaks have flattened. Jack - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? I think

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 19 Mar 2015, at 13:33, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering how *anyone* would even learn of the PDML's existence these

RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob W wrote: And you'll probably get a long rambling detour through the arcane mysteries of some barely-related side-issue before you even get close to the answer. The PDML is like an overnight bus journey with a garrulous drunk. That was very sneaky. Now we're already off topic :-) Malcolm

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
MARK! On 3/19/2015 06:53, mike wilson wrote: Top up my pension fund for me and I'll post until your eyes bleed. On 19 March 2015 at 02:03, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Lately I've noticed that the volume of PDML posts is way down. So, being off this week and having some spare time,

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
:49 AM Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Only us oldsters know what Shel-like means.:-) Paul via phone On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:51 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still here although my participation has fallen, mostly due to lack of photo drives to generate anything thing to show

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread George Sinos
My photography was going in a direction that wasn't pleasing me. I decided to cut back on interaction with photography sites, the camera club and, in general, photo enthusiast stuff. So much of what is discussed is only of interest to other photography hobbyists and isn't even on the radar for

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Alan C
I found the PDML via Bojidar Dimitrov's k-mount pages. He gives a glowing recommendation. Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
It’s been so cold the last few months I haven’t even wanted to go outside, let alone take any photos Same here. We're up to our eyeballs in snow here in Nova Scotia, too. I've been reduced to taking cat photos. --- Steven Sharpe - The Office Gallery d...@eastlink.ca -- PDML

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread wendy beard
I’ve had difficulty posting for the longest time. 6 months or more - even after I’d switched e-mail addresses for the list subscription. I still can't post from Apple Mail - even with the format set to plain text. It doesn't bounce back, just never appears. I think I found the magic button on the

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread wendy beard
recommendation. Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Where is everyone? Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) I probably found out

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML? (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.) Googling - or more likely, since it was around 2002-3, AltaVista-ing. I must have lurked for a while because my first post wasn't until

Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/3/15, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: breath of fresh air to find a group of photographers who generally knew their aperture from a hole in the ground Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

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