In case some Americans might wonder why Canada is reluctant to
back US imperialism.
Paul Phillips
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Ambassador to Canada, Paul Cellucci, it is wor
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In light of recent remarks made by
you know Louis, that tenure and job security protects
incompetence and laziness among the few. But it also protects
those of us who chose to attack the orthodoxy and the mainstream
crap. Take away that protection and you destroy us. I have spent
my life writing and researching in support of
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DU
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DEPLETED URANIUM
It's dirty, and it's deadly.
When
As a footnote to Ken's post, at the time the Europeans invaded
North America the total aboriginal population in what is now
Canada is estimated at approximately 500,000. If that figure is
close to correct, then there are now three times or more aboriginals
in Canada than there were 500 years
Actually, Doug, I don't think you are right. We are in the middle of
negotiating new treaties and settling land claims that date from
this period and our (European) treatment of the Aboriginals at this
time is one of the major factors in the determination of Aboriginal
rights. It is, very
For those who us who come from the Christian tradition, the
obsenity of Bush is that he claims murder, torture and humane
degration is part of the Christian tradition. He is obviously of the
anti-christ tradition. It is easy for us with a Christian upbringing to
criticize, yet understand,
Michael,
Our University has anti-virus software that scrubs all incoming and
outgoing e-mail for viruses. It notified me that it had intercepted
'your' message and scrubbed the virus though in this case the
program said it was a 'worm' (not sure of the difference). The only
thing one can
Ken's response on Canadians' reaction to cuts and proposed
privatizations of medicare, while I agree with what he said, leaves a
lot more unsaid. Let me summarize as briefly as I can.
1. In the early 1990's the federal government cut a lot out of the
transfers to the provinces to finance
Found Poetry from the great leader!
Your laugh for today.
This is a poem made up entirely of actual quotations from
George W Bush. They have been rearranged purely for
aesthetic purposes, by Washington Post writer Richard Thompson.
MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W
Apprapo of Michael's post:
Paul
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Globe and Mail October 30, 2002
For-profit U.S. schools sell off their textbooks
By DOUG SAUNDERS
Students already have to
Zimmerman was the US embassador to Yugoslavia at the time of
the breakup of the country. The various parties met at Lisbon in
Portugal to devise a formula for cantonization of Bosnia on the
Swiss model. This was agreed to. Zimmerman, on behalf of the
US informed/advised the Muslims
I think I understand a little of what Sabri is getting at -- the
intellectual and accepting way we look at the statistics -- seeing
them as economic factorum and not as poor, suffering people.
What I think he is saying, certainly what I am saying, is ONE is
too many. When we remember that
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Paul, can you name
Did I say that you were insensitive and did not concern yourself
with the context of the unemployment rate? -- a rate which I use
every day in my labour and economic problems classes, btw. Nor
was I responding to either Doug or Jim's posts but to Sabri's
lament. Every month when the U rate
But Jim,
As my last post pointed out, when I responded to Sabri's original
post your whole discussion about the problems and additions to
the U rate was not being considered. My original post was in
response to someone (not you) suggesting that because the
figures on registered unemployment
There are some minor differences in the definition/determination of the rate of unemployment in the various western, industrial countries. Canada's definition (I'm not sure exactly what the difference is) results in a rate that is slightly higher than the US definition, but most conform to
Several times in recent days Ian and other have posted articles
about the abject failure of the EU to deal with its economic
problems (and also similar articles about Japan). Many of the
posted articles end up referring to the failure of Europe -- and
particularly Germany -- to deal with
Subject: job in Labour and Workplace Studies
The Labour and Workplace Studies Program, Faculty of Arts, at the
University of Manitoba invites applications for a full-time
tenure-track appointment in Labour and Workplace Studies at the rank
of Assistant Professor. Core fields: Labour
Indeed, a rare voice of sanity from Prime Minister Chretien.
Paul
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Yes in thunder, Prime Minister Chrétien. What a rare voice of sanity among
world leaders.
Carl
There are, of course, Croats and other nationalities who live in
Serbia and have for generations (also, the Albanians, not only in
Kosovo but in Serbia proper.) Last census data I have is that just
over 2 per cent of the Serbia population were ethnic Croats. Over 7
per cent of the Vojvodina
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Devine, James wrote:
Can anyone off the top of their head give me the quote from Marx
referring to British exploitation of India, (about the 'whitened bones'
or something to that effect) and where that quote appears?
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
Universityof Manitoba
Thanks Carrol,
Thats the quote I want but I don't have a copy of _Capital_ handy.
I'm away from my office where my (condensed) copy is. Anyone
have a copy handy?
Paul
??? Sorry I know no bones except
It's in _Capital_ I someplace -- he is speaking of the replacement of
I have resisted several times mentioning Rodrik but his analysis of
the impact of globalism (international economic integration) is in
many ways far more 'radical' than is Stiglitz's. See his Rodrik
trilemma on his web page -- a stimulating and provocative analysis.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
From today's Globe and Mail, a poem by Johnn Allemang.
Economics for Dummies
Too bad he drank his way through school --
He might not look like such a fool,
As business titans crash and burn
And all Geoge Bush can do is turn
The Clock back to that fateful day
When his worst foe was not Ken
How much is that in miles?
Gene
michael wrote:
I heard someone refer to 401k's as 201k's, now that they are revalued
251 amd 126 miles
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Michael,
I am not sure I agree with you. Appended is an article about the attempt (by the US) to 'Stalinize' Milosevic.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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I am a little disappointed by the whole debate over the Article
posted by Louis of Shiva's speech. First of all, like Michael, I
thought most of it made a lot of sense. Anyone who has followed
the experience of the 'green revolution' (sic) knows about the
problems that it has produced and
It is a triumph of
the vision of people like Jean Monnet that markets should be regulated and
answerable to the democratic will of the people, and that negotiation and
cooperation between capitalist enterprises under this degree of social
foresight is progressive.
Chris Burford
Michael,
I can't give you the contribution to wage income, but I can give
some perspective on how important it was to overall income vis a
vis Jugoslavia's overall external financial commitment.
Ratios of Worker Remittances to Interest Payments in Yugoslavia's
Current Account
Year
Some time ago someone asked for information on Tinbergen's
articles on shipbuilding. I forwarded the request to my colleague
who was on sabbatical in the Netherlands and, as he explains, I
just got back his response. If this is what was requested, whoever
asked for it could let me know
Gar in a recent post on Market Socialism and inequality (I
accidently erased the wrong post) made the statement that
inequality under market socialism would be worse than under
planning and used Jugoslavia as an example. Unfortunately for his
argument, this is not in accord with the facts.
I would agree with Jim. While Michael may feel that the issue has
been debated sufficiently, I am somewhat disturbed by the
superficial analysis of market socialism that passes for critical
thought on this list. As someone who has worked for the past 15
years in Jugoslavia and, most
Just a couple of thoughts.
Akerlof and Yellen have a gift-exchange model of efficiency wages
(Was this one of the ideas he got the pseudo Nobel for?) which is
very useful in the institutional analysis of labour markets.
What interests me more is the idea (from Polanyi) of 'generalized
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I wrote:
at some point,
The American Law on takings is a Frankinsteinian abortion of
distorted thinking that is spreading its tentacles beyond the US
into other countries by the extraterritoriality of US law. The idea
that property rights extends to the incorporation of expected profits
in perpetuity is a US
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Yea, there is a lot of superficial truth in this account, at least as
relative to Canada. But there is also a lot of overgeneralization
and
obfuscation in this account also. Since I have already published
several
hundreds of pages and articles on this subject
Michael,
I don't know enough about Argentina to do a proper comparison,
but a few points on Canada -- since the break with British
colonialism in Canada's case was initiated by Britain over the
opposition of the ruling elite in Canada.
1. The British were losing money on the Canadian
Hmmm.
Yea, there is a lot of superficial truth in this account, at least as
relative to Canada. But there is also a lot of overgeneralization
and obfuscation in this account also. Since I have already
published several hundreds of pages and articles on this subject, I
am not about to
This might be interesting to Pen-l-ers. This came from our
Progressive Economics Forum.
Paul Phillips
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Dear PEF Members and Friends;
Somehow an article based on the research
Ian's posting on Bush's commitment (sic) to free trade and
Krugman's comments about antiglobalism brought to mind the
following comment by Bruce Little, a business columnist in the
Globe and Mail, this past week commenting on the steel and
softwood lumber cases. Please note that Little is a
Pen-l'lers,
I had this following query from one of my undergrad students. Any
good suggestions? Reply off line to
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I was wondering if you have had time to consider an e-mail that I
sent regarding internet sites or sources that I can look for about the
Peter,
The case of Slovenia is, I would suggest, somewhat unique. Since
the economy was already a (managed) market economy, it was
not necessary to establish the institutions of markets, with the
exception of the capital market where the existing capital market
had been replaced by a
Peter,
What are you suggesting here? What kind of restructuring are you
referring to? As someone who has spent the last 10 years studying
and publishing on the Slovenian transition process, I'm mystified at
what you are referring to.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
Universityof Manitoba
2.
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what's kept inflation low in the US has been low oil prices, low raw
material prices in general, and the high dollar.
JDevine
And the excess capacity in manufacturing world wide that has
increased competition and prevented the excercize of monopoly
pricing. No?
Paul Phillips,
Hey, I think this debate is great. I can delete the whole day's
posts without reading them and think of the time I save ;-).
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Doug wrote:
As is always the case with these debates,
I can't resist the urge to ask - so what?
Why is the
Jim,
The question we were discussing, I thought, was what explains the
drop in profits after 1997 (despite rapidly rising labour productivity)
and which subsequently resulted in a fall in investment initiating the
recession. Your data, at least as I read it, questioned whether the
fall in
Jim,
What you suggest here is that the profit rate fell despite a *falling
organic composition of capital*. I don't disagree though I would
again ask is that because of an improper measuring of productivity
growth as I suggested in my earlier post? You suggest this seems
to contradict
Michael,
It is interesting that last week in Winnipeg there was a 'job fair'
where hundreds of American hospitals sent recruiters to entice
Canadian (Manitoban) nurses to the US, Texas and North Carolina
were particularly prominent. We have just re-introduced a two-year
registered nurse
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Doug,
My response was not to your post but to
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By the way, Michael Yates promised to
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This whole
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The Polanyi Institute at Concordia University has announced an upcoming
publication that many of you will find very interesting:
Economy and Society. Money, Capitalism and Transition. Fikret Adaman and
Pat Devine, editors. Black Rose Books, 2001. In
Karl
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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Dave Richardson's daily report notes:
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, JANUARY 7, 2002l
The unemployment rate increased 0.2 percentage point to 5.8 percent in
December, the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced. U.S. payrolls declined
by 124,000 in December and have
I don't know why but every post from Jim Devine, or response from
Jim, spills over such that I can't read it on my e-mail. Can Jim
correct this? (ps. there are several others on pen-l who have this
problem though, since I have not been saving their collections on
other issues, I have not had
Given the somewhat unfocussed response we have had so far to
my suggestion, I am hereby proposing a more directed response.
List members who have a specific article/book to recommend write
a one or two paragraph summary/abstract complete with URL or
bibliographic reference as appropriate.
Michael,
(and others) have been lamenting the failure of Pen-l to look at the
current economic problems etc. I have a practical (?) suggestion.
I teach a course called Canadian Economic Problems and also
am frequently called upon to lecture on free trade and its
implications, etc. What I
I have not contributed to the discussion of the war on Afghanistan or on
the anti-war protests for a very difficult personal reason. I am appalled by
the Taliban oppression of women. I am appalled that the west did
nothing about it until some militants attacked the bastions of American
Manitoba did not have a dust bowl because it never suffered the
drought to the same extent as the 'great American dessert'
including Palliser's Triangle in the Canadian prairies.
It is true that this part of Canada was overpopulated relative to the
long term agricultural sustainability of the
Michael,
But yes, the climate change did not result from a few hundred or
thousand farmers plowing up the soil (though lack of wind breaks
may have had a marginal effect) please give me any plausible
argument that property rights ***caused*** the drought/depression
in agriculture. Any
Michael,
are you arguing that climate change is the result of individual farm
practice? I just don't understand where you are coming from.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
I differ with you on the climate change, but I never supported the
article
in its belief that
Michael,
Could you elaborate a little on what you mean here. What are you
referring to as a stacked economic program?
Most of all, how will a stacked economic program
play if we are going to a deeper recession?
Paul
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba.
ps. The strike
Pen-llers, et al.,
This is to inform you that the faculty at the University of Manitoba
began a strike yesterday morning (Oct 22) following almost of year
of fruitless negotiations with the administration.
The issues are more bread and butter than the last strike 6 years
ago which was over
When western Canada was first surveyed by Europeans for
settlement, the surveyor, Captain Palliser, deemed the northern
extension of the great American desert not fit for settlement.
This area is still known as Palliser's Triangle and is the area
currently hit by drought. (This does not
of the Bush cabal has led to rises in the price of oil which will further eat into
the living standards of struggling workers around the world. The declared war will
lead to deaths and injury of workers. It will also lead to further economic hardship
and pain.
I have a student who wants to
Obviously, Andrew doesn't live on the prairies or deal with
agricultural issues. Pity.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Most of the Great Plains does not need irrigation to produce crops with
enormous yields, year after year. There are many problems such as
overuse of
Well, I just have lived for the past -- well almost 40 years on the
prairies -- rode my horses, lived in my rural communtity, etc.
cultimated my garden, tendered my pasture, etc, etc.
Yea and we had a hell of a time with chemical crop dusters. Yea
and we had a real problem with drought. Yea
Enough Said
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Former Yugoslavia: The name of the game is OIL!
By Karen Talbot
The Bush administration, with its spectacular connections to oil and
energy corporations, is telling the U.S. people they need more oil,
gas and nuclear power
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Bush should pull troops
Carrol,
The closest thing to the CCPA in the US is the EPI.
Paul Phillips
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Ken,
I explicitly said beef packing plants and kill operations. The
Brandon plant and Neepawa are hog operations, no?
Paul
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Ken,
Thanks for posting this. I must admit to being relieved that my 'gut
insticts' were not far amiss. It is hard to keep up with reality in so
many areas these days.
Paul
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Ken may correct me, but I think in the Canadian prairie, cattle have
been more profitable than crop agriculture, particularly grains and
oilseeds. The strongest sector has been pork I believe.
The main reason for rural depopulation in Canada has been the
development of capital
Louis wrote:
It is not only about
African-Americans, it is about American Indians as well. For that matter
the same kind of legalistic flim-flammery would apply to Indians as well.
How can we give land to the Iroquois unless we can prove that they are 100
percent Iroquois? As a rule of
2) Most of these lists are dominated by posters from the first world.
Most posters from the non-english speaking countries are from the first world.
One potential reason is that, despite lack of real democracy, these countries
are not as repressive as the non-first world countries and
(BTW, contrary to Brad's misrepresentation, there are many socialists -- including
some on
pen-l -- who think it's worthwhile to look before leaping, to think about what
socialism
might look like.)
-- Jim Devine
Actually, contrary to Jim's assertion here, it is Michael who
has been
Sabri,
I concur with Justin that the NCE version of market socialism is
just as flawed as NCE itself and therefore of little use as a model
for a real economy, in particular a socialist real economy. I would
disagree with Justin that there is no role for planning. Obviously,
for instance,
Ken,
Valpy, a regular columnist with the GM, ran for the NDP in the
last federal election. The GM has a few leftish columnists, most
noteably Rick Salutin.
Paul
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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Tim,
This doesn't directly
I think all North American academics should be aware of this
travesty of academic freedom and human rights.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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There have been a number of threads recently on Pen-l which
reflect the super-nationalist navel gazing of Americans.
First, I would ask Brad De Long. If he had a ballot for president
that included Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Ramsey McDonald,
who would he vote for?
Second, I would
Can Bush be any worse for the rest of the world than Clinton/Gore?
If so in what way. Will the civilians of Yugoslavia and Iraq be any
less fearful of their lives? Will the peasants of Columbia be more
fearful for their lives? Will Canadians fear more for the loss of their
jobs, pollution
Yea Doug, a typical American reply. It ain't us, it is all you
foreigners.
I am no apologist for Canadian domestic and foreign policy, indeed
I have a reputation for the opposite as you might surmise, but I
would remind Doug that all these legislative measures were taken
as a result of
Doug,
This is repugnant. You have never heard me defending Canadian
policy on this list. Furthermore, if you knew what I have been
doing, I have been crossing the country speaking and denouncing
Canadian policy in this area.
Paul Phillips
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Doug writes,
A couple of more questions occurred to me while I was in the shower.
Do the 32 million members of the U.S. working class who live in
officially defined poverty deserve their fate? Or worse? How about
the 20-30 million more who live close to poverty? How about the - I'm
Do you really believe this? I guess this is really what I am
complaining about, US intellectual imperialism. Ugh.
Paul Phillips
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Of course you could. But why would Americans since they are the
prime beneficiary. This is the kind of ... agh never mind.
Nevertheless, we can't stop globalization. We can only soften its
impact. The traditional economies are everywhere in decline. Better
that some people have jobs. In
Barkley and Louis,
Just a couple of points. Poland is not the only transitional
economy where GDP is higher now than it was in 1989. For
Slovenia this is also true. Also, Slovenia has relied far less than
Poland on foreign investment.
I would also point to the fact that Slovenia has relied
Charles,
As I thought, private property is not protected under the
constitution but is under common law in Canada. The common law
and, I believe statute law (but not constitutional law), requires
governments to pay compensation at "market value".
Paul Phillips
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Thanks Martin,
I didn't realize Australia had adopted a version of my suggestion.
When was this system introduced? I can see how it can be
abused but it is still better than our present system. I had a
relative teaching in a US university (private) who was told she could
not fail a student
To all those on Pen-l and PKT, I must apologize for misleading
many of you when I posted the job opening in History/political
economy here at Manitoba. It is, at this stage, open only to
Canadians or landed immigrants. If we fail to find a qualified
Canadian, only then can we go to the next
Some time ago I posted this job opening to both Pen-l and PKT
following a discussion about the difficulty of heterodox graduates
finding jobs in major institutions.
The job market closes in a week or two and we have had 0 (zero)
applications. Interesting.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
Max (et at)
The whole purpose of the Swedish investment funds was that
worker profits would go to buy corporate shares that would
ultimately lead to -- ulp! -- worker ownership. This was sufficiently
upsetting to lead to a corporate (class) uprising to squelch any and
all moves to
Yoshie wrote:
I don't know why Paul Barkley Rosser seem to say there is a
possibility of gradual orderly privatization, when Mladjan Dinkic
(the economic advisor to Kostunica now central bank governor) is
calling for _swift_ privatization.
Yoshie, if you read what I wrote, it was
Michael,
I am disappointed in you. Apparently only US politics is
acceptable to this list? We have just had days of multiple posts on
the politics of Milken's jail sentence, the political beliefs of Alan,
the politics of California power, ad nauseum -- nothing about
anything accept
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