Damien,
Is there a Pharo-web link? Apologies if I'm missing the obvious.
Thanks!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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:16 AM
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
wrote:
Is there a Pharo-web link? Apologies if I'm missing the obvious.
I'm not generating pharo-web images because nobody asked as far as I
remember. Do you want one? (that won't cost much don't worry :-))
--
Damien
gripes
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 17:58, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
I suppose I could suggest replacing some of the button bars with more
compact iconic toolbars. Things like debugging over, into, etc. lend
themselves well to that. The world menu will not make much sense if we
Damien,
I am not seeing that, but I am probably not using the right VM anyway:
bi...@ubuntu-9905:~$ squeak -version
3.9-8 #5 Tue Oct 10 11:56:09 PDT 2006 gcc 4.0.3
Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686
) 392-7029
damien.cas...@gmail.com 02/10/09 9:23 AM
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
wrote:
If it is really not a problem, I would like to try it.
I can't because of bug
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=520
--
Damien Cassou
http
Gary,
I need to play more later, but that appears to make a significant difference.
Bill
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Stef,
Re Dolphin, class categories have long been of marginal use; I'll speak for
myself on that but suspect others would agree. Packages are of course
extremely useful. Method categories are also quite useful, and Dolphin allows
multiple categories to be assigned to a given method. Dolphin
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On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 17:58, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
I suppose I could suggest replacing some of the button bars with more compact
Gary,
I suppose I could suggest replacing some of the button bars with more compact
iconic toolbars. Things like debugging over, into, etc. lend themselves well
to that. The world menu will not make much sense if we ever get one window per
shell.
The biggest concern I have right now is
Others can correct/amend as appropriate, but a few answers:
Mailing lists have long been used for Squeak, and it is part of the
culture. One good thing is that they are archived and searchable, IF
you know where to look. If you can tolerate some link-rot, you can
start here:
Lukas,
I had pretty much resigned to going without this - not sure why given
how much I grip about other stuff :) There are indeed efficiency
considerations, but it's also a big step in compatibility.
THANKS!!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of
Stef,
My first reaction is why is it not Smalltalk? Not the name, but the language
itself. Is there something I missed/should read to understand it?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email:
Stef,
I suspect that Object Arts would favor #printOn:delimiter:. They would
also probably have a #displayOn:delimeter: method. Their approach is
that one 'displays' for users and 'prints' for developers; they
generally don't much like #as* methods, with the exception of true
conversion methods
the printString of
the contained element ) does not make
too much sense to me.
stef
On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Stef,
I suspect that Object Arts would favor #printOn:delimiter:. They
would
also probably have a #displayOn:delimeter: method. Their approach
is
that one
Alexandre,
I think it makes sense for a workspace (the shell/tool type) to warn
before going away, but I agree that being prompted for every inspector
that I want to close is a pain.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL
Stef,
There is nothing to stop us and others from having fun on top of a
clean system with a user interface that can meet the expectations of
users, paying and otherwise. The cleanup is long overdue and very much
starting to show.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Gary,
No argument here. I find Watery a little bright for my taste, but
suspect that will ease off when I set the background colors to my
preference. There are aspects of Vistary that I like, though at least
in the older versions that I have used more extensively, there is a
little bit of a
:-)
Regards, Gary
--
From: Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 4:16:55 AM
Subject: [Pharo-project] GUI editor, etc.
Hello all,
There was some
FWIW, Dolphin has an interesting approach to this kind problem. As the
image loads, it creates a session manager. There is a hierarchy of such
classes for GUI and headless systems. GUI session managers take care of
creating and showing the app's main window.
I asked a similar question not long
Michael,
It might be nice to involve the cryptography maintainers; their work
could probably just add onto the structure you create.
Bill
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m.rue...@acm.org 01/08/09 2:01 PM
Bill Schwab wrote:
Michael,
It might be nice to involve the cryptography maintainers; their work
could probably just add onto the structure you create.
Great suggestion!
Will do
Michael
Hello all,
There was some recent mention of GUI frameworks and/or an editor. For
fear of losing the idea, I will just throw this out now while I am
thinking of it.
I submit that one needs both a drag/drop graphical tool, and a
programmatic capability. The graphical approach works well for
Gwenael,
Is the plan to do this for 1.0? Have you considered a flag for _
assignment? It seems like something that would be most useful on
file-in, unless you think you can make it all work at the same time.
Shortly after m17n gained acceptance, I re-raised the question of
whether _ really
Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de
Subject: Re: 3.9 underscore still there?
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general
Date: 2006-10-30 20:18:13 GMT (2 years, 9 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours and 46
minutes ago)
Bill Schwab wrote:
My preference would be for ANSI compatibility. With that said, having
I saw some similar goofiness at one point, but do not recall whether it
was related to cryptography. I am interested in it and the SSL classes.
I managed to install same at one point, but it is no longer clear how I
did it. Mining the change log of the most recent image where it works
(I have
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mrg...@gmail.com 1/5/2009 7:25:25 AM
On Sunday 04 January 2009 17:41:21 Bill Schwab wrote:
Gwenael,
Stef mentioned that you are working on a parser, in part to address
problems with $_. At the risk of appearing
Stef,
It was not until I re-read this that I took note of just who had all this great
insight into computing. I fully agree about the debugging benefits of
immutable arguments. The same argument leads me to want to avoid name
collisions between temporary and instance variables.
Please tell
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stephane.duca...@inria.fr 12/22/08 3:15 AM
Send the code.
Stef
On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Sounds good. And in that case (OB Tools at the end of the list), I
urge
serious attention to having a notifier. Learning from history, and
all
that.
Bill
, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Bill Schwab
bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Sounds good. And in that case (OB Tools at the end of the list),
I urge
serious attention to having a notifier. Learning from history,
and all
that.
Hi Bill,
I decided to load OB-Tools (a reimplementation of some
It makes a lot of sense to use MC, universes, etc. rather than re-write
them; no argument there. Would it help to roll ScriptLoader into
Installer? Installer _looks_ to me as though it tries to be a
much-needed facade over the various options for sharing code. The
problem is complex, so must be
than try to fix it
because the benefits were so large and I was too busy/lazy/etc.
-david
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
wrote:
Stef,
One nice thing about the new browser is the RB integration. Given my
general aversion to having it rewrite my code (showing
understand them.
Stef
On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
It makes a lot of sense to use MC, universes, etc. rather than re-
write
them; no argument there. Would it help to roll ScriptLoader into
Installer? Installer _looks_ to me as though it tries to be a
much-needed facade
Lukas,
You are correct to question what is Pharo? We cannot hope to ensure
that everything anyone ever does with Pharo will work - those kinds of
promises are made only during political campaigns :) But, note the
recent discussion of package integrity. It should be as easy as
possible to
[1])
Pharo is the image that will be officially shipped (packaged as a
one-click image). Pharo-Core on the other hand will be important for
deployment as it has a low memory footprint.
Cheers,
Adrian
[1] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Packages
On Dec 21, 2008, at 15:46 , Bill Schwab
stephane.duca...@inria.fr 12/20/08 2:59 AM
Bill
report any problem to load packages and we willcheck what we can do?
Do you have something that we can repeat.
And indeed we prefer MC as package format.
Stef
On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:04 AM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Damien,
Thanks for making the new image
, at 01:04 , Bill Schwab wrote:
Damien,
Thanks for making the new image. Is there a way to tell the image to
display walkbacks instead of going straight into the debugger?
The new image seemed a nice excuse to play catch-up, which means
getting a few things loaded.
Seaside - I recalled
Stef,
This looks great, but I think it underscores something that has bothered
me for a while: the various packages should not be prompting on
installation. The updated Seaside installation is vastly improved, but
it still comes to a dead halt over user-name/password for the
configuration
Hello all,
One change I do not like is that errors bring up a debugger vs. starting
with a notifier. Beyond a we fear change g reaction, it can get
expensive if things are bad enough to create errors in rapid succession.
Is there a preference I can set to get the previous behavior?
Bill
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
From my side this is not something intentional so may be this a
preference somewhere.
On Dec 20, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Hello all,
One change I do not like is that errors bring up a debugger
, Bill Schwab wrote:
Hello all,
One change I do not like is that errors bring up a debugger vs.
starting
with a notifier. Beyond a we fear change g reaction, it can get
:)
expensive if things are bad enough to create errors in rapid
succession.
Is there a preference I can set to get
Stef,
Under ordinary circumstances, it's ok, but OA tried this and then
quickly decided it was a bad idea. Imagine a budding recursive chain of
errors; the extra load of opening the debugger can prevent a rescue that
might be possible given a lightweight notifier.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab,
...@gmail.com 12/20/08 4:52 PM
So only open one and recognize eecursive UHE and do something clever.
Opening an infinite # of any kind of window sucks.
-david
On Dec 20, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Bill Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
wrote:
Stef,
Under ordinary circumstances, it's ok, but OA tried
.
On Dec 19, 2008, at 4:11 AM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Stef,
If you a saying that assignment will be :=, I can _easily_ live with
that.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
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Email: bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
Tel
FWIW, I frequently have had troubles like that with graphical systems
that were mixing current cursor position with positions from the
events.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
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Email: bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
Damien,
Thanks for making the new image. Is there a way to tell the image to
display walkbacks instead of going straight into the debugger?
The new image seemed a nice excuse to play catch-up, which means
getting a few things loaded.
Seaside - I recalled discussion of it, and quckly stumbled
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keith_hod...@yahoo.co.uk 12/19/2008 9:00:28 PM
Bill Schwab wrote:
Damien,
Thanks for making the new image. Is there a way to tell the image
to
display walkbacks instead of going straight into the debugger?
The new image seemed a nice excuse to play
Stef,
FWIW, my biggest priority is to be able to use underscores in class and
method names (very useful when talking to the outside world - I don't
care if it's ugly, it worksg). Pharo will help me reduce Microsoft's
influence over my future, but while one source of underscores goes away,
things
+1.
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reng...@gmail.com 12/18/08 12:34 PM
I've discussed with Stephane and may be we can fix all the
...@inria.fr 12/18/08 1:52 PM
Gwenael is improving the parser/scanner
after if people wants to grab the code this is their problem
Our goal is not to end in endless squeaking discussions to build a
better system.
Stef
On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
Bill Schwab wrote:
Stef
Please consider that it's not just your development environment - it is
(or probably should be) the framework for my future users' desktop
applications. Sounds are a part of life; the default can certainly be
null, void and quiet.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
FWIW, I found that recent Pharo images did not work on XP until I
grabbed a recent VM. I was using something quite old (3.7??) and
switched to the 3.10 VM and suddenly everthing worked. I have _no_ idea
where the cutoff is, nor can I say what the best choice would be.
Bill
Wilhelm K.
Norbert,
Sounds good.
Bill
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norb...@hartl.name 12/12/08 7:10 PM
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 08:57 -0500, Bill
Hello all,
Watery 2 is starting to grow on me. My own quirks include a tendency to
mess with fonts (I find mono-spaced is best for code, and I use the
smallest font that is comfortable for me), and background colors
(reducing contrast and hence eye strain). As long as those changes
work,
Gary,
Some time ago, Object Arts added opening events to Dolphin's tools, and
I wrote a simple example that I really like: it plays a random sound
clip on opening a debugger. As you said, the clips themselves are an IP
nightmare, but it would be a nice thing to be able to do w/o hacking
into the
Norbert,
Not to start an argument or anything, where do we disagree? I assume I
am a bit more jaded about the usefulness of _most_ canned components,
but freely admit that the odd thing here or there can be a life saver.
The need for C is quite obvious. It is the best accepted macro
assembler
Alexandre,
C has a fairly unique place among languages. We could debate how far
that goes and the reasons for it, but a few that come to mind are: it
arrived a long time ago; it was widely adopted; *nix lives by it. Pharo
has to speak it.
In most situations where I have used Dolphin's COM
Damien,
I have a quick question for you as a scripting fan: can you recommend a
good example to follow? It would not have to be much; I am simply
trying to figure out how I am going to manage code. It could be as
simple as look at the build Pharo from scratch link - whatever you
think gives a
This sounds familiar on a couple of levels. In short, the ODBC package should
probably define #printSqlOn: and/or #sqlString rather than altering the way
everything else prints a time stamp. It even gets worse, because the DBMS
sometimes affects what has to be written.
Thanks for complaining
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As Pharo 1.0 takes shape, what is the plan for getting packages loaded
the way each of us wants? Is Installer the preferred route? Would I
be
expected to script it (I find myself hoping so - load
Hello all,
I grabbed 10183, hacked it into a one-click image on my Ubuntu box at
home, and found the Polymorph is indeed in the image. Frankly, I
suspect I might have missed it once before, possibly mistaking the
watery theme for the default look. It's great to see it included.
As Pharo 1.0
/24 Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I agree: it would be useful to control host windows in some way,
whether
as described below, or via Wx, etc. The native windows/controls
have
their uses, though they are not (IMHO) the panacea that many believe
them to be. So, it would be very nice to be able
I agree: it would be useful to control host windows in some way, whether
as described below, or via Wx, etc. The native windows/controls have
their uses, though they are not (IMHO) the panacea that many believe
them to be. So, it would be very nice to be able to mix native and
emulated GUI
Francois,
Welcome to the list! +1 on the naming scheme.
Bill
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During
Lukas, all,
Serial ports are a must for me. Whether or not that means they need to
be in the base is another question; I vote yes. USB would be of more
use if the consortium would spend less time telling us what they are
not, and focus on telling us what they are and how to do what we want.
Damien,
Is the Linux VM dated? It did not prompt to save before quitting. IIRC, an
earlier one-click had that feature.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the Linux VM dated? It did not prompt to save before quitting. IIRC, an
earlier one-click had that feature.
I didn't change anything from Marcus' one-click from
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
Hello all,
Please feel free to say that's going in the wrong direction, but it
might be nice to have FFI, or at least the plugins, lurking in the
one-click file structure.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
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-0400, Bill Schwab wrote:
Colin,
Among many useful things in Dolphin is an ability to assign multiple
categories to any given method; Squeak and Pharo allow only one
category, and it promptly gets chewed up by PackageInfo. Multiple
categories would be a nice addition to Squeak and Pharo
Dolphin has been running on Wine for a while, so get a community edition
copy and give it a try.
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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[EMAIL
Hello all,
After a few days of getting mostly nothing from an evolving
Seaside+Apache setup, I got it running. A lot suddenly happened on two
machines, and there is no telling what I might have done to cause
trouble on my own. Anyway, two things deserve mention. Sorry to throw
these at you,
Sorry gang, I meant to send this to the seaside list. Your opinions are
welcome too!
Bill
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in frameworks, where
you
may get nil instead of an empty collection passed to you.
-david
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Stef,
I suspect your mood is appropriate. Most likely, it masks a failure
to
initialize something to a collection. Unless
but this is quite cool. Check
TEmptyTest. It is applied to
OrderedCollection, Basg, Set, Array, Interval (and could be to
others
too).
Yesterday I got a really nice presentation of Miro by alain plantec
and he is also using traits.
Stef
On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Stef
to
conduct such experiment.
We are therefore left to our intuition that using traits is better
than not using them. But a large crowd (and not only in the research
community) has the same intuition.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2008, at 16:07, Bill Schwab wrote:
Stef, Alexandre,
I will grant
Strings, eh??? Now this makes more sense. I have defined some methods named
#isNonTrivial that I use in some defensive situations (ok, a few are quite
simly cowardlyg), all the way up to decisions about how to represent chunks
of medical records. Most senders are of the latter type.
Stef,
I suspect your mood is appropriate. Most likely, it masks a failure to
initialize something to a collection. Unless there is a performance
argument (e.g. many are created, few are actually used, or something
like that??), then it probably should go.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
Stef,
Dumb question: are traits essential to it, or simply a way of achieving
it? Just curious, as I am still trying to put traits in perspective.
They strike me (so far, right or wrong) as a form of multiple
inheritance, which I have assumed (right or wrong) is often not needed
with clever
Hello all,
As part of some catch-up work from a couple of weeks ago, I'm using my
1.8 GHz/500MB Ubuntu box and a remote desktop client to do some
configuration on a win2k3 VM running on a blade server on campus. By
many standards, I am using a pig-slow machine jumping through lots of
hoops to
I will confess to being in a similar situation. I have been grabbing
new images and looking at them, but am hoping to wait for the
integration before moving my code from my very old (in Pharo time)
image to a more recent one.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of
of Anesthesiology
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/1/2008 3:50 PM
Bill Schwab writes:
Hello,
I would like to tell you all the incredible things I did to get SIF
going - truth is, it loaded and just
Damien, Stef,
I would argue for #trimBlanks (very useful), #trimLineBreak (I do not recall
needing this one, but clearl you do, so go for it), and keeping
#withoutTrailing: as a separate entry point; write the others in terms of it.
IIRC, #trimBlanks probably should trim leading as well as
Adrian,
I ran the space tally, and have found, even after
WARegistry clearAllHandlers.
Smalltalk garbageCollect.
that there are still some Seaside entrails present in the image. In
particular, there are 11 instances of WAApplication, and 4 instances of
WADispatcher. There are
I started Smalltalk on an educational discount copy of V-DOS, and then
launched at a discounted copy of V-Win. The latter was particularly
prone to crashing during a save-and-exit. To this day, I save, and then
exit w/o saving. I can't get past it :) Humor aside, I would prefer to
have a way
Before doing something I might regret, I wanted to check with you about
installing OSProcess, VMMaker(?), FFI, etc. Do you have anything to say
try it and report any problems?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL
Hello,
I would like to tell you all the incredible things I did to get SIF
going - truth is, it loaded and just worked. The only gripe I have is
that the Pharo browsers are displaying a large number of LF or other
non-printable characters as boxes in the Pharo browsers. I have seen
Squeak do
PROTECTED] 9/30/2008 2:12 PM
Bill Schwab writes:
Before doing something I might regret, I wanted to check with you
about
installing OSProcess, VMMaker(?), FFI, etc. Do you have anything to
say
try it and report any problems?
I load OSProcess and FFI from universes, it works loading
Hello all,
I am not sure what the system directory means to a cross-platform
tool, but either my knowledge of Squeak/Pharo or its reporting about the
host were a little lacking today. Case in point: win2k uses
win32\system32, xp uses windows\system32, but I did not find a clear way
to make the
I apologize for not paying more attention to this thread. Visual
feedback in the browser is very much appreciated, and you seem to be
doing a very nice job! Had I been paying attention, I'd have said
things like the following:
(1) Red is probably not the best choice to have lurking on the
Damien,
Sounds good.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/28/08 9:16 AM
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Bill Schwab
related to an open-
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2008/9/24 Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands
Damien, Stef,
I _think_ what I would want for a starting point is something like Damien's web
image, followed by a script that gets the latest of a few things, specific
versions of others, and then loads a bunch of .cs or other files for my code.
Damien, I suspect you put a lot of work into
I am working on adapting some basic tools of mine to Pharo, and ran into
a trick that use often: specifically, I use ZLib and Dolphin's ability
to package globals to store compressed text for scripts, empty
document files, etc. Then a small wrapper method uses ZLib to
uncompress the content of
Hello all,
Have a look at:
http://www.object-arts.com/content/news/excitingNews.html
Object Arts and Lesser Software are collaborating on a new version of
Dolphin. They are still sticking to the Windows-only angle, which I
find disappointing. However, even if they hold to that, we are
Now THAT'S a reason for us to remove them!!! :)
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 9:07 AM
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the
mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up
either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a
toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do
the trick.
It includes a Linux VM with the shutdown prompt fix - MUCH appreciated,
not to mention the packages that were the point of demo :)
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: (352)
Markus,
Based on the discussion, I started noting how long it takes my images to
load; a splash screen might be in order; I also fear that by the time VM
loads and the GUI is able to draw itself, it is no longer needed :(
Still, I'd add it to the milestones, but probably late in the process.
Stef,
The class can be more flexible than what is in Pharo, and FWIW, is not
built into the system. Since it does not need to be built-in, that's a
plus in my thinking.
Not much of a difference, I must admit.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
Ok, but only if you allow a choice of which one to use. I am a HUGE fan of
Shout, but I generally do not want a workspace trying to colorize my notes to
myself. If I end up with enough code that the syntax is not clear, it probably
belongs in a class and in a package or change set - at least
I appeared to get a valid download, but something isn't right. Is the
idea to download, unzip (MS seems to make this flakier with every
update???), and then launch Pharo.exe? Are there separate image and
change files? I do not see them, just a LOT of folders/files that are
giving my Java
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