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Volume 2 : Issue 121 : "text" Format

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  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
  Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
  (no subject)
  CarFax Request
  Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
  Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
  Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:41:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Roy T. Collins wrote:
> The stud is on the timing chain cover.  I assume it does not go all the
> way back to the block. It is only a 30mm stud and about 1/2 of it sticks
> out normally. The problem is the stud is broken off flush with the cover
> so drilling is the only option.  Basically everyone on the list said
> that the extraction tool will not work and will only make things worse.  
> So I am going to just dril it out and be done with it.  Which brings me
> to my next question. How difficult is it to remove the timing chain
> cover. I am going to look it over in the Bently tonight but if anyone
> has any heads up please let me know.

My only advice on this is to take the time to be sure that the hole you 
drill is in the center of the bolt.  Center punch it, use a smaller bit to 
drill the first hole (3/16" or so?).  Then drill it out sucessively 
bigger.  By the time you get to the inside edge of the threads in the 
cover, hopefully you can use a pick and knock out the remaining pieces.  
I've done this on some stuff sucessfully, leaving the original threads 
essentially untouched.

I've also, when I rushed something, gotten the inital hole off center and 
then proceeded to call myself an idiot for the entire rest of the job.  
:-)

If at all possible, get the cover (I think it was) off the car and use a 
drill press for drilling.  The extra time removing and replacing the part 
will likely be more than made up for in the reduction of time needed to 
perform the drilling and less chance of botching it all up.

Mark


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:33:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Neil Maller wrote:
> It should always be "look" first whether mirror or head turn. Otherwise
> you're signaling intent before you have information about the surrounding
> environment.

I look at it a different way --- the best way to be safe is to be
predictable to the drivers around you.  By signalling first, you are
saying that you are thinking of changing lanes, and informing everyone
around you of your possible intention. 

> Example: you want to change lanes, and there happens to be a car coming up
> behind you in the lane you plan to occupy. You signal but you don't look
> first, so you don't know he's there. Now what's he supposed to do? What do
> you do? There's no right answer.

In an ideal world he passes you because he knows you see him.  In an
unideal world, you have to use your best judgment and do what's safest for
the situation.  If I look and then signal, there will be a period of
uncertainty between when you've looked and signal, because someone who
wasn't going to be occupying the space may decide to occupy the space
after you've looked, and before you've signaled.

--Andre


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:50:27 -0800
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:33:51AM -0800, Andre Yew wrote:

> I look at it a different way --- the best way to be safe is to be
> predictable to the drivers around you.  By signalling first, you are
> saying that you are thinking of changing lanes, and informing everyone
> around you of your possible intention. 

 By signalling first, you are saying "I am WEAK" and giving the other 
guy a chance to close the gap.  He worked hard to get as far ahead in 
traffic as he did, and he'll be damned if he's going to let someone get 
in line ahead.  For all he knows, you'll be polite enough to let someone 
ELSE in front of YOU!

;-)

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:02:42 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The trouble with signalling first (in some case) is that the aggressive
drivers will cut off your opening. This can be really bad in rush hour. You
want to change lanes and if you put on the signal then the other lane
"closes ranks" to keep you from getting over in front of them.  Of course,
there ARE nice drivers who will honk or flash and let you over as well.

I usually check first, then signal, re-check, and go. I also will always
look over my shoulder and not just in the mirrors.

Dennis

At 11:33 AM 04/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Neil Maller wrote:
> > It should always be "look" first whether mirror or head turn. Otherwise
> > you're signaling intent before you have information about the surrounding
> > environment.
>
>I look at it a different way --- the best way to be safe is to be
>predictable to the drivers around you.  By signalling first, you are
>saying that you are thinking of changing lanes, and informing everyone
>around you of your possible intention.
>
> > Example: you want to change lanes, and there happens to be a car coming up
> > behind you in the lane you plan to occupy. You signal but you don't look
> > first, so you don't know he's there. Now what's he supposed to do? What do
> > you do? There's no right answer.
>
>In an ideal world he passes you because he knows you see him.  In an
>unideal world, you have to use your best judgment and do what's safest for
>the situation.  If I look and then signal, there will be a period of
>uncertainty between when you've looked and signal, because someone who
>wasn't going to be occupying the space may decide to occupy the space
>after you've looked, and before you've signaled.
>
>--Andre
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:43:12 -0800
From: Bora Akyol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Usually not a problem if you are driving an M-car or a high
performance car from another brand (Evo 8).
In fact I think the wing on the Evo gets respect on the freeway
of the sort (Don't mess with that guy :-)

Bora
89 M3 race car
03 Evo street car
04 excursion tow car

On Friday, Apr 2, 2004, at 12:02 US/Pacific, Dennis Wynne wrote:

> The trouble with signalling first (in some case) is that the aggressive
> drivers will cut off your opening. This can be really bad in rush 
> hour. You
> want to change lanes and if you put on the signal then the other lane
> "closes ranks" to keep you from getting over in front of them.  Of 
> course,
> there ARE nice drivers who will honk or flash and let you over as well.
>
> I usually check first, then signal, re-check, and go. I also will 
> always
> look over my shoulder and not just in the mirrors.
>
> Dennis
>


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:55:42 -0500 
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My M3 usually just disappears into the sea of SUVs anyway.....it's usually
my job to see that they don't hit me.  I had no idea that a car with 3"
fender flares & a flowmaster exhaust would cloak into traffic so well.

The biggest problem I have with an E30 M3 is a ricer wanting to street race
about every 30 seconds.  Well, that & having every cop on the road stare me
down or turn around & follow me for a bit.

Actually, it's sad as the reasons above contribute to me hardly ever driving
a car that I really love to drive......Sucks that it's the first week of
April & my track budget for the year is shot......That seems to be the only
time I can drive the ever-living whizz out of that car & not have to worry
about anything.

Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bora Akyol
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 15:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] How to change lanes (was Misguided R&D: Blind
> 
> 
> Usually not a problem if you are driving an M-car or a high
> performance car from another brand (Evo 8).
> In fact I think the wing on the Evo gets respect on the freeway
> of the sort (Don't mess with that guy :-)
> 
> Bora
> 89 M3 race car
> 03 Evo street car
> 04 excursion tow car
> 
> On Friday, Apr 2, 2004, at 12:02 US/Pacific, Dennis Wynne wrote:
> 
> > The trouble with signalling first (in some case) is that 
> the aggressive
> > drivers will cut off your opening. This can be really bad in rush 
> > hour. You
> > want to change lanes and if you put on the signal then the 
> other lane
> > "closes ranks" to keep you from getting over in front of them.  Of 
> > course,
> > there ARE nice drivers who will honk or flash and let you 
> over as well.
> >
> > I usually check first, then signal, re-check, and go. I also will 
> > always
> > look over my shoulder and not just in the mirrors.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> 
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> ____________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of 
> the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:09:29 -0500 
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I find that EVERY time I am weak & let someone into traffic or change lanes
in front of me, I am rewarded with colossal stupidity.....hence why I drive
like an a----hole......I guess I'm apparently the ONLY PERSON in a hurry to
get home every afternoon.

My pappy's even worse, he'll leave just enough space to fit into, but it's
small enough that 99.999999999% of drivers aren't confident enough to pull
into & then wave them in.  This way, he's a good guy for trying to let them
in, it's their fault they don't know how to drive.    :)

Lee->Friday afternoon's taking us way off topic.......is it o' beer 30 yet?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Bolhuis
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 14:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] How to change lanes (was Misguided R&D: Blind Spot
> Detector)<non-BMW>
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:33:51AM -0800, Andre Yew wrote:
> 
> > I look at it a different way --- the best way to be safe is to be
> > predictable to the drivers around you.  By signalling first, you are
> > saying that you are thinking of changing lanes, and 
> informing everyone
> > around you of your possible intention. 
> 
>  By signalling first, you are saying "I am WEAK" and giving the other 
> guy a chance to close the gap.  He worked hard to get as far ahead in 
> traffic as he did, and he'll be damned if he's going to let 
> someone get 
> in line ahead.  For all he knows, you'll be polite enough to 
> let someone 
> ELSE in front of YOU!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> -- 
>  "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
>    -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> ____________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of 
> the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:32:25 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Step 1:  Acquire or create a vehicle that's obviously been sideswiped
(both sides) and rear-ended.

Step 2:  Change lanes using any method that lands your car between the
desired lines on the road.  People will probably get out of your way,
and if they don't, it won't greatly reduce the value of your daily driver...

If your car still has mirrors and signals, you might consider using them.

-Jay
...sure to let you in if you use the above methods... at least until I
get around to following my own advice!



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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:03:13 -0500 
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm trying to sell my 01 Saab & get some sh!t-junker that runs well & looks
nice inside for this very reason.  Besides, I can think of absolutely no
reason to have any kind of nice car at all for rush-hour.

I noticed this with my old, beat-to-hell red car.  Doesn't matter how big an
SUV is, if you have something that looks like a serious POS, nobody will get
in your way!!!!!  I mean, I'm talking, this car looked like the kind of
thing that other motorists looked at & thought, "damn, prolly the best thing
that ever happened to that guy would be me hitting him."

That car was super clean & nice inside & ran like a top......I'm still
trying to figure out what I was thinking buying a new car.

Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 15:32
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] How to change lanes (was Misguided R&D: 
> Blind Spot D
> 
> 
> Step 1:  Acquire or create a vehicle that's obviously been sideswiped
> (both sides) and rear-ended.
> 
> Step 2:  Change lanes using any method that lands your car between the
> desired lines on the road.  People will probably get out of your way,
> and if they don't, it won't greatly reduce the value of your 
> daily driver...
> 
> If your car still has mirrors and signals, you might consider 
> using them.
> 
> -Jay
> ...sure to let you in if you use the above methods... at least until I
> get around to following my own advice!
> 
> 
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> ____________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of 
> the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 

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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:11:12 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change lanes (was Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector)<non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

John wrote:

>By signalling first, you are saying "I am WEAK" and giving the other guy a 
>chance to close the gap.  He worked hard to get as far ahead in traffic as 
>he did, and he'll be damned if he's going to let someone get in line ahead. 
>  For all he knows, you'll be polite enough to let someone ELSE in front of 
>YOU!

I think you have that backwards. Here in NJ... Signalling first means "I am 
taking that space and there ain't a damn thing you are gonna do about it!" 
Or something to that effect. It is more like "You are weak and I'm taking 
your space." Because we all know the weak drivers on the Parkway are the 
drivers who leave more than one car length in 75mph traffic.

On a related note... I recently read some findings from a study done of NJ 
drivers. The study put people in front of video screen that depicted traffic 
as if the subject was behind the wheel. Traffic that met the national 
standard for "D" (think like school grades) was most often deemed 'light' by 
NJ drivers in the study. It then went on to say that NJ drivers are used to 
congestion and that to them what is light would be "D" traffic elsewhere 
etc.

OBMWC: Within the last six months I installed the wide angle glass for the 
driver's side of my E46. If something doesn't show on that mirror; it isn't 
there. Too bad the wide angle is probably illegal in the US. (At least 
without the "objects appear..." warning.) Haven't had to bring it to 
inspection yet.

Gilbert
born NJ driver

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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:04:04 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Marc Plante
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:10:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CarFax Request
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Can someone run me a carfax for the following VIN

        WBAAA1317LEC67669

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 21:24:51 -0500
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joe,

Are you employed at WPI?  How long have you been there?  An alum?

Stan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Stan Jackson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem


> -- Joe
> 
> --
> Joseph M. Krzeszewski             Network Operations
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 21:36:31 -0500
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

As per Joe's advice:

OK, so the pump on the passenger side DOES have power.  Bang on the floor,
and the pump will even run for a bit.  Car now starts, but won't stay
running long.  Seems clear that the pump is near dead.

What about the pump on the driver's side?  At least it looks like another
in-tank pump??  It does NOT have power when jumpering the fuel pump relay.

I have a 1989 (1-pump?) parts car -- I suppose that it will NOT be an
appropriate donor for a fuel pump to a 1988 (2-pump?) car ...

Thanks!

Stan


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Stan Jackson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem


> From Stan Jackson Jr.
> >
> >I am hoping to a get a quick and dirty answer here.
> >
> >Question:
> >Chilton says to jumper the fuel pump relay sockets #30 and #87 to run
> >the pump even with the ignition off.  This did NOT work on the
> >non-running 1988 325iX.  It DID work on my running 1989 325iX.  Now, I
> >know that there was a fuel system change from 1988 to 1989, but I don't
> >recall the exact details (went from one pump to two?).  Can someone
> >confirm for me that the test above works on the 1988 system?  In which
> >case I have a failed pump.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Stan
> >
>
> I have personal experience here around Christmas with my '87 325i.
Bypassing
> that relay should cause the pump to run. In 88 (89?) they changed from the
two
> pump setup to the single pump setup. To the best of my knowledge, that was
> the extent of the change.
>
> If jumpering the relay doesn't work, cut to the chase and pop the rear
seat.
> Pull the access cover to the pump and stick a volt meter on the pump
> connector. If you get 12v it is a bad pump. If not, then you get to do
some
> more trouble shooting.
>
> Make sure you have voltage to the relay (terminal 30, I think) and that
the
> fuse is good (#21 I think). There is nothing else in this circuit, so if
you
> have power up front, but not at the back, there is a break in the wire. In
> my case, this was the problem. There is a factory splice under the back
seat
> on the driver's side of the car. Mine rotted off and disconnected both my
> pumps. If you only have one pump, then you may not have the splice. In my
> car the wire in question was a green wire with a purple stripe.
>
> >Background (if you need it):
> >My 1988 325iX died very suddenly last winter while driving.  Without any
> >warning or symptoms I simply lost fuel pressure and the car would not
> >run.  I was able to re-start it once or twice for 30 seconds or a
> >minute.  At the time, I thought perhaps ice in the tank had broken free
> >and clogged the fuel filter.  After getting it home, I tried warming the
> >fuel filter and waiting for warmer weather.  A few days after it died, I
> >was able to get it running.  It stayed running for close to 10 minutes.
> >It then died again and has not started since.  As I seem to "collect"
> >iXs, I put a different one on the road.
>
> Mine did the same intermitent thing for over a month while I replaced the
> pumps one at a time, each time thinking I had fixed the problem. It wasn't
> until the coldest week of the winter that it decided to quit entirely. In
my
> case, the mix of corrosion, dirt, and moisture made a situation where
there
> was no power going to the pumps, but 2A going through the fuse. It didn't
> really fail in a meaningful way until I poked at it and it fell apart.
>
> Luckily for you, you only have the in tank pump. That takes about 30
minutes
> to replace and you don't even have to crawl under the car.
>
> -- Joe
>
> --
> Joseph M. Krzeszewski             Network Operations
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:27:26 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The tank style changed in 9/87.
Gary Derian

> 
> I have a 1989 (1-pump?) parts car -- I suppose that it will NOT be an
> appropriate donor for a fuel pump to a 1988 (2-pump?) car ...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Stan



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