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Volume 2 : Issue 118 : "text" Format

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  Re: R-4 > PF9x > Blue > HT-10
  Re: Exhaust hardware
  Re: Exhaust hardware
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: <WTB> roundels for early BMW 3 series rims
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Another gizmo to go with the Blind spot
  Saw a good deal on V700
  Blind Spot Detector
  CD changer question

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:23:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: M Kittock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: R-4 > PF9x > Blue > HT-10
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I had two DE events last year about a month apart, left the Pagid Orange on in between 
(this is also my daily driver for work, groceries, etc) and except for being a bit 
squeaky perfromed just fine for me also.  And they are verrry popular with my P-car 
friends in PCA DE and club racing.

Mark Kittock

-----Original Message-----

My car is still street legal and is driven on the street once a week.

You should try the pagid oranges and then let me know.

Bora
> 
> Bora wrote:
> 
>> For an all around pad, look no further than Pagid Orange.
>> You can drive it on the street without thrashing your rotors
>> and then drive it in a race and feel confident every time
>> you go for the pedal.
>> 
>> This is what I run on my 89 M3 race car.
> 
> huh ?  you tout the Orange as a good compromise
> street/track pad & then note that you drive it on
> your trailered race car ?  wouldn't you sacrifice
> street-ability for a better performing track pad ?
> 
> am I missing something ?   :-)
> 
> IIRC the Oranges are what the 993 big red guys
> were running.

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:31:36 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Exhaust hardware
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Guys,

What is the preferred hardware (bolts/nuts) to use in the exhaust section
flanges? These are the sections post converter. Is stainless appropriate?

-Kevin




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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:53:30 -0500
From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Exhaust hardware
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Kevin asks
> What is the preferred hardware (bolts/nuts) to use in the exhaust section
> flanges? These are the sections post converter. Is stainless appropriate?

you can use the bmw bolts + copper locknuts, they work great, can still be
removed undamaged for a while after, but expect them to break/fall apart if
you're removing them after 5+ years

with the flange design in bmw's, you typically don't want to tighten the
heck out of the joint, you just need to snug it up - which means the
lock-nut design is a very good thing

(if you just use a regular nut/bolt, it will come loose over time.. or you
make it really tight and bend the flanges and compromise the seal)

stainless steel bolts + nuts work great also and can be easily removed many
years later- if you use slightly longer bolts and double-nut them, then you
won't need to squish the flanges too much but you won't have to worry about
them coming loose


chris pawlowicz


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:18:43 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greg, I have a question about the passenger side mirror.  Is the curvature
the same as the US mirror?

Gary Derian
>
> Actually I have the euro mirrors on both sides of my car, and they help
> a lot. And they don't have the "Objects in Mirror" wording on the
> passenger side, FWIW.
>
> - Greg



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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:11:52 -0800
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gary - I was told at the time that they are the same curvature and the
euro one just doesn't have the lettering. That seems to be the case
according to my untrained eye 8^).

- Greg

Gary Derian said the following on 3/31/2004 2:18 PM:

> Greg, I have a question about the passenger side mirror.  Is the curvature
> the same as the US mirror?
> 
> Gary Derian
> 
>>Actually I have the euro mirrors on both sides of my car, and they help
>>a lot. And they don't have the "Objects in Mirror" wording on the
>>passenger side, FWIW.
>>
>>- Greg
> 
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 

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Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:21:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm pretty sure the lettering is just a US DOT requirement in the spirit of the labels 
on hairdryers that says "Don't use in the bathtub" or lawnmowers that say "Don't put 
hands or feet under the mower while it's running."  I'd hope the DOT wouldn't mandate 
a curvature other than what the engineers decide provides the best visibility, but 
then it wouldn't surprise me either...

Brian 
'94 325ic
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mar 31, 2004 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC]  Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>

Gary - I was told at the time that they are the same curvature and the
euro one just doesn't have the lettering. That seems to be the case
according to my untrained eye 8^).

- Greg

Gary Derian said the following on 3/31/2004 2:18 PM:

> Greg, I have a question about the passenger side mirror.  Is the curvature
> the same as the US mirror?
> 
> Gary Derian
> 
>>Actually I have the euro mirrors on both sides of my car, and they help
>>a lot. And they don't have the "Objects in Mirror" wording on the
>>passenger side, FWIW.
>>
>>- Greg
> 
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 

-- 
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com
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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com




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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:38:52 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Objects in mirror should be paid attention to instead of being
distracted from by text engraved on the mirror."

Someone needs to tattoo that backwards on the forehead of the DOT
employee who thought up the original warning message.

- Rob

---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

&gt;I'm pretty sure the lettering is just a US DOT requirement in the
&gt;spirit of the labels on hairdryers that says &quot;Don't use in
the
&gt;bathtub&quot; or lawnmowers that say &quot;Don't put hands or
feet under the
&gt;mower while it's running.&quot;  I'd hope the DOT wouldn't
mandate a
&gt;curvature other than what the engineers decide provides the best
&gt;visibility, but then it wouldn't surprise me either...
&gt;
&gt;Brian 
&gt;'94 325ic



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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:56:32 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My wife suggests that the warning on the passenger side mirror should say:

"Objects in mirror are cleaner than they appear"

But that probably just works for our cars.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:39:47 -0800
>From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<snip>
>Actually I have the euro mirrors on both sides of my car, and they help
>a lot. And they don't have the "Objects in Mirror" wording on the
>passenger side, FWIW.
>
>- Greg



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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:47:33 -0500
From: UUC Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Or you can just cover it up:

http://www.supracentral.com/TX2K4dayoneimages/Every_Supra_Should_Have_One.jpg

At 19:38 3/31/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>"Objects in mirror should be paid attention to instead of being distracted 
>from by text engraved on the mirror."
>
>Someone needs to tattoo that backwards on the forehead of the DOT employee 
>who thought up the original warning message.
>
>- Rob

Michael K Donohue
System Administrator
UUC Digest
http://www.uucdigest.com


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:37:58 -0500
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <WTB> roundels for early BMW 3 series rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

They're just 45mm foil "stickers" basically, and self-adhesive at 
that, as long as you already have the chrome hubcaps. The number used 
to be: 36 13 1 108 346 and they cost about a buck or two from your 
local BMW dealer.

Alex Cagann wrote:
>I am looking for eight of the little roundels for the four bolt spoked rims
>that came on the 320i. The roundel sticks to a small round chrome piece. I
>believe this same size roundel logo was also used for early E30 318's and
>such.
>


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:15:20 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 3/31/04 5:19 PM, Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes:  a useful acronym my (street) driving instructor told me when I was
> learning to drive was "SMOG":  Signal, Mirror (ie. rear view mirror, not
> side mirrors), (look) Over the shoulder, and Go.

Good principle, wrong implementation.

It should always be "look" first whether mirror or head turn. Otherwise
you're signaling intent before you have information about the surrounding
environment.

Example: you want to change lanes, and there happens to be a car coming up
behind you in the lane you plan to occupy. You signal but you don't look
first, so you don't know he's there. Now what's he supposed to do? What do
you do? There's no right answer.

However if you look first, you know he's there. Now *you control* the
sequence of events. You can decide to let him pass first, or you decide
there's time for you to pull out, you change your mind, or whatever.

I was taught: mirror, signal, maneuver. No handy acronym, but makes better
sense.

Neil
96 M3


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:14:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another gizmo to go with the Blind spot
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Commonly known as Bott's Dots, named for their inventor
http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/bottsdots.asp

You won't find them in any locality far enough north to have snowplows...

Brian 
'94 325ic
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mar 31, 2004 2:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC]  Another gizmo to go with the Blind spot detector<non-BMW>

As if the BONK BONK BONK from driving over the
lane-separating reflectors wasn't enough. . .

:-)

Brad Couvillon






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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:21:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Saw a good deal on V700
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ran across this sale on the internet for V700's. 
http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RE&Category_Code=SPEC
Looks like a good deal although it is for only one
tire size and it is "older inventory".  Oh well,
doesn't fit my car anyway.  Just in case anyone else
is interested.

Mike

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:31:47 -0500
From: "Bill Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Blind Spot Detector
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I contacted the manufacture and they do have them for assorted BMW's  such
has

e30 = 6 1/8" wide  X  3 11/16" high, P/N = 24017LH & 24018RH

e36 = 6 1/8" wide  X  3 7/8" high, P/N = 24041LH & 24042RH

We also stock the 2001-UP BMW  M3, P/N = 24039LH & 24040RH

You can contact them thru there web site...

http://www.multivexmirror.com/index.html

No affiliation, promises, kickbacks or payola blah x3

Bill Wade
Bluegrass Bimmers
'88 Henna M3 (soon to be blind spot free)




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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:54:50 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD changer question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know of a source for a CD changer adapter cable for a 92 E34
525i?

Need to connect one of these two changers to the factory Pioneer head unit:
changer 1 - pioneer CDX-M30
changer 2 - pioneer CDX-M61

If anyone has a source for an adapter set, please let me know.  Crutchfields
no longer has them available.

Thanks

Brett Anderson
KMS

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