The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 120 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: CD changer question
  Re: CD changer question
  Re: CD changer question
  OT - Hardware Engineer
  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
  e34 OBC display reading a bunch of garbage
  E46 M3 wheel fitment
  E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
  Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
  PF5
  Re: <E36> climate control cuts out

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Date: 1 Apr 2004 10:54:25 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD changer question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here?: <http://www.soundgate.com/products/cd/bmw-mini.htm>

More info here:
<http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e34/stereo/e34_cd_changer.html>
and here:
<http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/stereo/all_cd_changer_info.html>

Does anyone know where to buy a new CDX_M30?

Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii
Oakland, CA


Brett wrote:

> Does anyone know of a source for a CD changer adapter cable for a 92 E34
> 525i?
> 
> Need to connect one of these two changers to the factory Pioneer head unit:
> changer 1 - pioneer CDX-M30
> changer 2 - pioneer CDX-M61
> 
> If anyone has a source for an adapter set, please let me know.  Crutchfields
> no longer has them available.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS

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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:29:50 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD changer question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://peripheralelectronics.com/2002/cd_changer/bmw.asp

http://www.autosoundgear.com/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jnpmrml4

http://www.blitzsafe.com/blitz_catalog/blitz_interfaces/blitz_interface_list/blitz_bmw/blitz_bmw.html

Looks like the BMW/PIO V.1 would work.

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black

> > Does anyone know of a source for a CD changer adapter cable for a 92 E34
> > 525i?
> >
> > Need to connect one of these two changers to the factory Pioneer head unit:
> > changer 1 - pioneer CDX-M30
> > changer 2 - pioneer CDX-M61
> >
> > If anyone has a source for an adapter set, please let me 
> know.  Crutchfields
> > no longer has them available.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Brett Anderson
> > KMS
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>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
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>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:08:56 -0500
From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD changer question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I doubt you will find a new one, but there appears to be 3 for sale on Ebay.  Search 
for CDX M30.

-Tom

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 01:54PM >>>
Here?: <http://www.soundgate.com/products/cd/bmw-mini.htm>

More info here:
<http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e34/stereo/e34_cd_changer.html>
and here:
<http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/stereo/all_cd_changer_info.html>

Does anyone know where to buy a new CDX_M30?

Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii
Oakland, CA


Brett wrote:

> Does anyone know of a source for a CD changer adapter cable for a 92 E34
> 525i?
> 
> Need to connect one of these two changers to the factory Pioneer head unit:
> changer 1 - pioneer CDX-M30
> changer 2 - pioneer CDX-M61
> 
> If anyone has a source for an adapter set, please let me know.  Crutchfields
> no longer has them available.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:47:22 -0700
From: Peter B Du Bois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT - Hardware Engineer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






I seem to recall from a previous posting that there is an unemployed
hardware engineer on the list.

If there is, please contact me off-list.

Thanks,


Peter B. du Bois
520.545.9371
520.489.5960 pager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:52:33 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Don't waste your time with the extraction kit.  You'll break it off and be
totally screwed.  They don't work in scenarios like this unless you can get
heat on to the area, and even then, the heat usually screws up the extractor
and, while it doesn't break, it also doesn't work....

Skip the agrivation and strong possibility of f*cking up the cover beyond
repair, and just drill it out.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks for all the advice guys.  Last night I went in to try one
> last time to get the broken stud out without drilling.  I soaked
> PB blaster on there for an hour.  Then I came back in and tried
> to vice-grip it out.  I was able to get enough grip to spin the
> remaining 1/4 inch of the stud off.  The good news to this is the
> stud is now flush with the timing chain cover so drilling will be
> easier.  So my next question is how do you drill and tap this?  I
> have never done it before but I will be assisted by a decent
> mechanic.  He has done it many times but says he hates doing it.
> I just wanted some background info.  I read up on it on Google
> and it seems pretty straight forward.  I found out that I need a
> 5mm drill bit and such.   Is there any other info I should have a
> heads up on.  I plan on working on it this weekend. Of course I
> am going to try and use the extraction kit first since I have to
> drill anyway.

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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:00:34 -0500
From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brett,
Is the stud on the valve cover, or through the valve cover to the block?
I was thinking (danger, danger) the stud is through the cover, in which case removing 
the cover gets access to stud and a stud insert/removal tool would do the trick.  I've 
got a stud tool purchased years ago at Sears when I put headers on my 2002.....

Steve Stoner

Brett wrote
<Don't waste your time with the extraction kit.  You'll break it off and be
<totally screwed.  They don't work in scenarios like this unless you can get
<heat on to the area, and even then, the heat usually screws up the extractor
<and, while it doesn't break, it also doesn't work....
<
<Skip the agrivation and strong possibility of f*cking up the cover beyond
<repair, and just drill it out.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks for all the advice guys.  Last night I went in to try one
> last time to get the broken stud out without drilling.  I soaked
> PB blaster on there for an hour.  Then I came back in and tried
> to vice-grip it out.  I was able to get enough grip to spin the
> remaining 1/4 inch of the stud off.  The good news to this is the
> stud is now flush with the timing chain cover so drilling will be
> easier.  So my next question is how do you drill and tap this?  I
> have never done it before but I will be assisted by a decent
> mechanic.  He has done it many times but says he hates doing it.
> I just wanted some background info.  I read up on it on Google
> and it seems pretty straight forward.  I found out that I need a
> 5mm drill bit and such.   Is there any other info I should have a
> heads up on.  I plan on working on it this weekend. Of course I
> am going to try and use the extraction kit first since I have to
> drill anyway.

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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:41:28 -0600
From: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The stud is on the timing chain cover.  I assume it does not go all the way back to 
the block. It is only a 30mm stud and about 1/2 of it sticks out normally. The problem 
is the stud is broken off flush with the cover so drilling is the only option.  
Basically everyone on the list said that the extraction tool will not work and will 
only make things worse.  So I am going to just dril it out and be done with it.  Which 
brings me to my next question. How difficult is it to remove the timing chain cover. I 
am going to look it over in the Bently tonight but if anyone has any heads up please 
let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Stoner
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] water pump mounting bolts....continued


Brett,
Is the stud on the valve cover, or through the valve cover to the block?
I was thinking (danger, danger) the stud is through the cover, in which case removing 
the cover gets access to stud and a stud insert/removal tool would do the trick.  I've 
got a stud tool purchased years ago at Sears when I put headers on my 2002.....

Steve Stoner

Brett wrote
<Don't waste your time with the extraction kit.  You'll break it off and be
<totally screwed.  They don't work in scenarios like this unless you can get
<heat on to the area, and even then, the heat usually screws up the extractor
<and, while it doesn't break, it also doesn't work....
<
<Skip the agrivation and strong possibility of f*cking up the cover beyond
<repair, and just drill it out.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks for all the advice guys.  Last night I went in to try one
> last time to get the broken stud out without drilling.  I soaked
> PB blaster on there for an hour.  Then I came back in and tried
> to vice-grip it out.  I was able to get enough grip to spin the
> remaining 1/4 inch of the stud off.  The good news to this is the
> stud is now flush with the timing chain cover so drilling will be
> easier.  So my next question is how do you drill and tap this?  I
> have never done it before but I will be assisted by a decent
> mechanic.  He has done it many times but says he hates doing it.
> I just wanted some background info.  I read up on it on Google
> and it seems pretty straight forward.  I found out that I need a
> 5mm drill bit and such.   Is there any other info I should have a
> heads up on.  I plan on working on it this weekend. Of course I
> am going to try and use the extraction kit first since I have to
> drill anyway.

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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:53:25 -0500 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Roy,

You can try to cut a slot in the end of the stud with a Dremel and back it
out with a screwdriver, or get yourself a left hand drill bit--as you run
the drill in reverse it will bite into the stud and back it out.

Marc '95 325is a few mods.

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:42:32 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: water pump mounting bolts....continued
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Removing the cover is a lot more work than it's worth.  Easier to drill it
out with the cover removed, but the total job time and effort makes it
easier to drill it out with the cover in place.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----

> The stud is on the timing chain cover.  I assume it does not go
> all the way back to the block. It is only a 30mm stud and about
> 1/2 of it sticks out normally. The problem is the stud is broken
> off flush with the cover so drilling is the only option.
> Basically everyone on the list said that the extraction tool will
> not work and will only make things worse.  So I am going to just
> dril it out and be done with it.  Which brings me to my next
> question. How difficult is it to remove the timing chain cover. I
> am going to look it over in the Bently tonight but if anyone has
> any heads up please let me know.

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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:26:29 -0800
From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e34 OBC display reading a bunch of garbage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Group,

I'm familiar with replacing the three bulbs in the OBC when it is dim or
goes, out...But the display in question lights up fine...
The problems is that there are funny looking characters/symbols that show up
in the display.

What is causing this?  If I simply unplug it and plug it back in will it
come back to showing normal alphanumeric characters?

Chris


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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:35:09 -0800
From: "Marvin Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E46 M3 wheel fitment
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Original posting:
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:52:42 -0500
From: Andy Grigor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E46 M3 wheel fitment
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I would like to hear from anyone who has witnessed the
fitment of a BBS RK (one piece) wheel, 18"x8.5" w/ 38mm
offset, on an E46 M3. Obviously, it is the front fitment
that is in question.

BBS literature says it is not a fit, thus Tire Rack says
it is not a fit. However, I know that a BBS RK, 17"x8"
w/ 40mm offset, fits on my 2004 M3 (3mm clearance between
spokes and caliber vs. 5mm clearance on stock 18" wheel).
BBS also has the two-piece 18"x8.5" RK which they say fits.

Trying to make sure this isn't US marketing at work to
make us M3 owners purchase the much more expensive 2-piece
RKs.

- Andy
==============================================
For comparison, the 2003 330i Performance Package front wheels are 18x8.0
with 41mm offset. Tires are 225/40x18.
I tried putting a rear wheel on the front.  It fit statically, but I did not
drive it in that condition.  The rear wheel is 18x8.5 with 50 mm offset and
255/35x18 tire. Note that these were the original factory wheels, not BBS.

Now, another question: What is the biggest tire that will fit on the front
of the 330i PP with the factory wheels and no fender rolling or other
modifications?

Marvin




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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:16:05 -0500
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am hoping to a get a quick and dirty answer here.

Question:
Chilton says to jumper the fuel pump relay sockets #30 and #87 to run
the pump even with the ignition off.  This did NOT work on the
non-running 1988 325iX.  It DID work on my running 1989 325iX.  Now, I
know that there was a fuel system change from 1988 to 1989, but I don't
recall the exact details (went from one pump to two?).  Can someone
confirm for me that the test above works on the 1988 system?  In which
case I have a failed pump.

Thanks,

Stan


Background (if you need it):
My 1988 325iX died very suddenly last winter while driving.  Without any
warning or symptoms I simply lost fuel pressure and the car would not
run.  I was able to re-start it once or twice for 30 seconds or a
minute.  At the time, I thought perhaps ice in the tank had broken free
and clogged the fuel filter.  After getting it home, I tried warming the
fuel filter and waiting for warmer weather.  A few days after it died, I
was able to get it running.  It stayed running for close to 10 minutes.
It then died again and has not started since.  As I seem to "collect"
iXs, I put a different one on the road.

Now I am back to getting this one running, since it obviously was not
ice in the fuel.  Using the Chilton manual (I know it is generally a
poor manual, but I got it free, it covers the AWD stuff, and my brother
has hidden or misplaced his Bentley so I could not use that), I started
troubleshooting.  The fuel pump relay is fine.
Now go back up to the question.


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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:29:42 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Jackson Jr.)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 325i Fuel Delivery Problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From Stan Jackson Jr.
>
>I am hoping to a get a quick and dirty answer here.
>
>Question:
>Chilton says to jumper the fuel pump relay sockets #30 and #87 to run
>the pump even with the ignition off.  This did NOT work on the
>non-running 1988 325iX.  It DID work on my running 1989 325iX.  Now, I
>know that there was a fuel system change from 1988 to 1989, but I don't
>recall the exact details (went from one pump to two?).  Can someone
>confirm for me that the test above works on the 1988 system?  In which
>case I have a failed pump.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Stan
>

I have personal experience here around Christmas with my '87 325i. Bypassing
that relay should cause the pump to run. In 88 (89?) they changed from the two
pump setup to the single pump setup. To the best of my knowledge, that was
the extent of the change.

If jumpering the relay doesn't work, cut to the chase and pop the rear seat.
Pull the access cover to the pump and stick a volt meter on the pump
connector. If you get 12v it is a bad pump. If not, then you get to do some
more trouble shooting. 

Make sure you have voltage to the relay (terminal 30, I think) and that the 
fuse is good (#21 I think). There is nothing else in this circuit, so if you
have power up front, but not at the back, there is a break in the wire. In
my case, this was the problem. There is a factory splice under the back seat
on the driver's side of the car. Mine rotted off and disconnected both my
pumps. If you only have one pump, then you may not have the splice. In my
car the wire in question was a green wire with a purple stripe. 

>Background (if you need it):
>My 1988 325iX died very suddenly last winter while driving.  Without any
>warning or symptoms I simply lost fuel pressure and the car would not
>run.  I was able to re-start it once or twice for 30 seconds or a
>minute.  At the time, I thought perhaps ice in the tank had broken free
>and clogged the fuel filter.  After getting it home, I tried warming the
>fuel filter and waiting for warmer weather.  A few days after it died, I
>was able to get it running.  It stayed running for close to 10 minutes.
>It then died again and has not started since.  As I seem to "collect"
>iXs, I put a different one on the road.

Mine did the same intermitent thing for over a month while I replaced the
pumps one at a time, each time thinking I had fixed the problem. It wasn't
until the coldest week of the winter that it decided to quit entirely. In my
case, the mix of corrosion, dirt, and moisture made a situation where there
was no power going to the pumps, but 2A going through the fuse. It didn't
really fail in a meaningful way until I poked at it and it fell apart.

Luckily for you, you only have the in tank pump. That takes about 30 minutes
to replace and you don't even have to crawl under the car.

-- Joe

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Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                        Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet


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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:10:29 -0500
From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMWUUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PF5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Duane and all, including Rich - Rick Bebbee to you, according to Duane-
for a great couple of days.  Brett is still grinning ear to ear from both the
Roos cars and the go karts.  We had a great time the whole event, even if we
did miss Christie's (I have a niece in college so I give her my tuition money;
perhaps after she graduates I can turn it back to the lovely student/employees
of Christie's).  I am bruised across my entire body from the Roos cars (both
upper arms from propping up on the chassis for seat changes, and 2nd/4th gear
shifts on the right) and also the karts (bruised ribs and spine) not to
mention the muscle soreness.  Ok, so I'm out of shape.  I also have several
excuses for my performance;  would you like the one about the car(t), the
track or the weather?  ;-)

Kathy
----
Kathryn M. Lyle, CPA, CVA
Lyle & Associates CPA
www.lylecpa.com
Creating Business Value




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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:28:07 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> climate control cuts out
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Many thanks to those who responded to my issue with E36 digital climate
control.  Best I can tell, the problem is where the connector is soddered
to the board.  I touched all of this up... but with no change in behavior.  
Rats.  I give up, ordered a reman unit from The BMW Store (on a tip from
Neil).  $236+ship, $100 less than my local dealer wants for the same reman
unit.  Now I need to carry a slide ruler to convert deg-C to deg-F, but WTF;)

- Kevin Jay
  '96 328is, red/tan, starting to show its age


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