The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 317 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering Re: 'Knob's' Re: 'Knob's' Re: 'Knob's' Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: E30 clutch hydraulics Re: airbag waiver letters/ was steering wheel diameter <E36> diff rebuild
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:00:59 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Gary. These were new pads and new rotors. If one re-reads my original post in this thread, I did "bed" the brakes (I did a few slow stops to get some heat into the brakes, then six 80mph-to-10mph stops to boil off the volatiles. Then I drove about four miles without touching the brakes, to cool them off. The car stopped fine, but for the spongy brakes. It did get worse at the end of the six stops, perhaps some minor fading, exacerbated by the air in the system? I guess I should have phrased my question better - when I asked how long does it take to for brakes to bed, I was referring to Marco's comment about how the brakes would feel soft until they had fully bedded-in. Since I had not encountered that before when changing pads/rotors, I wanted (and still do, I guess) just how long it would take until the pedal firms up again (I've never had a pedal just "firm up" by itself; either it's firm after bleeding, or it's soft and doesn't get better until I bleed again). Bottom line, I guess my query is - aside from bleeding, is there anything I can do to help cure a spongy pedal, likely caused by introducing air into the system when the piston popped out? This is assuming that I'm not being oversensitive to the amount of sponginess in the brake that's supposed to be there.... vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? There are two aspects to bedding brakes, one is to get the pad to conform to the waves in the rotor. This is especially important when new pads are installed on old rotors. The second aspect is baking out the volatiles to prevent outgassing and fade. Part one should be done at low temperature, part two requires high temperature. There is a large variability in brake size and engine power so there is a large variability in how hot the brakes get when performing x stops from y speed. Get them hot to the point of fade. I get on the freeway, shift to 3rd rear and run from 50 to 80 mph at full throttle, then brake hard while maintaining full throttle. At 50 I let up and accelerate back to 80. Gary Derian > > How long does it take for the brakes to "bed"? I've > never encountered that > before. > > vty, > > --Dennis Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:10:42 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One thing to consider is that you should bleed all 4 corners properly after the screw up if you haven't already. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Liu Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Thanks, Gary. These were new pads and new rotors. If one re-reads my original post in this thread, I did "bed" the brakes (I did a few slow stops to get some heat into the brakes, then six 80mph-to-10mph stops to boil off the volatiles. Then I drove about four miles without touching the brakes, to cool them off. The car stopped fine, but for the spongy brakes. It did get worse at the end of the six stops, perhaps some minor fading, exacerbated by the air in the system? I guess I should have phrased my question better - when I asked how long does it take to for brakes to bed, I was referring to Marco's comment about how the brakes would feel soft until they had fully bedded-in. Since I had not encountered that before when changing pads/rotors, I wanted (and still do, I guess) just how long it would take until the pedal firms up again (I've never had a pedal just "firm up" by itself; either it's firm after bleeding, or it's soft and doesn't get better until I bleed again). Bottom line, I guess my query is - aside from bleeding, is there anything I can do to help cure a spongy pedal, likely caused by introducing air into the system when the piston popped out? This is assuming that I'm not being oversensitive to the amount of sponginess in the brake that's supposed to be there.... vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? There are two aspects to bedding brakes, one is to get the pad to conform to the waves in the rotor. This is especially important when new pads are installed on old rotors. The second aspect is baking out the volatiles to prevent outgassing and fade. Part one should be done at low temperature, part two requires high temperature. There is a large variability in brake size and engine power so there is a large variability in how hot the brakes get when performing x stops from y speed. Get them hot to the point of fade. I get on the freeway, shift to 3rd rear and run from 50 to 80 mph at full throttle, then brake hard while maintaining full throttle. At 50 I let up and accelerate back to 80. Gary Derian > > How long does it take for the brakes to "bed"? I've > never encountered that > before. > > vty, > > --Dennis Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:24:18 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah, did that after the test drive to bed in the brakes - went back and bled all four corners. A few bubbles came out of the RF caliper at the very beginning, but not as many as I expected. Dunno if that's good or bad! :-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marco Romani Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? One thing to consider is that you should bleed all 4 corners properly after the screw up if you haven't already. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Liu Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Thanks, Gary. These were new pads and new rotors. If one re-reads my original post in this thread, I did "bed" the brakes (I did a few slow stops to get some heat into the brakes, then six 80mph-to-10mph stops to boil off the volatiles. Then I drove about four miles without touching the brakes, to cool them off. The car stopped fine, but for the spongy brakes. It did get worse at the end of the six stops, perhaps some minor fading, exacerbated by the air in the system? I guess I should have phrased my question better - when I asked how long does it take to for brakes to bed, I was referring to Marco's comment about how the brakes would feel soft until they had fully bedded-in. Since I had not encountered that before when changing pads/rotors, I wanted (and still do, I guess) just how long it would take until the pedal firms up again (I've never had a pedal just "firm up" by itself; either it's firm after bleeding, or it's soft and doesn't get better until I bleed again). Bottom line, I guess my query is - aside from bleeding, is there anything I can do to help cure a spongy pedal, likely caused by introducing air into the system when the piston popped out? This is assuming that I'm not being oversensitive to the amount of sponginess in the brake that's supposed to be there.... vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? There are two aspects to bedding brakes, one is to get the pad to conform to the waves in the rotor. This is especially important when new pads are installed on old rotors. The second aspect is baking out the volatiles to prevent outgassing and fade. Part one should be done at low temperature, part two requires high temperature. There is a large variability in brake size and engine power so there is a large variability in how hot the brakes get when performing x stops from y speed. Get them hot to the point of fade. I get on the freeway, shift to 3rd rear and run from 50 to 80 mph at full throttle, then brake hard while maintaining full throttle. At 50 I let up and accelerate back to 80. Gary Derian > > How long does it take for the brakes to "bed"? I've > never encountered that > before. > > vty, > > --Dennis Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:58:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Air can get trapped in the ABS unit. There is a method to purge but it requires factory tools. I've heard of jumpering a relay to get the ABS to purge itself. I know no details. Gary Derian --- Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, did that after the test drive to bed in the > brakes - went back and > bled all four corners. A few bubbles came out of > the RF caliper at the very > beginning, but not as many as I expected. Dunno if > that's good or bad! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:02:17 -0400 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If the E36 is any indication, it seems that air does get trapped in the ABS unit, and the dealer is no better at getting it out than you or I. At least in my case, the dealer bled twice without fixing the problem. And yes, they did perform their fancy computer aided ABS cycling flush. People have reported gradual success by engaging ABS whenever possible and bleeding frequently, getting a tiny bit at a time. This is the situation I am in. I was successful in getting the ABS pump to cycle. It did not seem to help. I don't remember what I jumpered to do it, but found the info via google. Chris B. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Air can get trapped in the ABS unit. There is a method to purge but it requires factory tools. I've heard of jumpering a relay to get the ABS to purge itself. I know no details. Gary Derian --- Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, did that after the test drive to bed in the > brakes - went back and > bled all four corners. A few bubbles came out of > the RF caliper at the very > beginning, but not as many as I expected. Dunno if > that's good or bad! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sometimes, it helps if you tap on the caliper with a soft faced hammer to get some of the air bubbles to dislodge inside that may be trapped. I will tap the caliper while bleeding it. Regards, Rich - have nice firm brake pedal feel in all vehicles...lucky I guess. --- Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, did that after the test drive to bed in the brakes - went back and > bled all four corners. A few bubbles came out of the RF caliper at the very > beginning, but not as many as I expected. Dunno if that's good or bad! :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marco Romani > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 1:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system? > > > One thing to consider is that you should bleed all 4 corners properly after > the screw up if you haven't already. > > Marco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:47:31 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ed MacVaugh > >There are 209 million cars registered in the US. If every one of the >those with an alarm, ABS or airbag fault called their agent, the phone >system across the US would fail. I think you would be misrepresenting >your situation if you renewed your policy without correcting the credit, >but I don't think you need to call the agency when your ABS sensor gets >crudded with road debris. > >If every other policy holder quit lying about the mileage they drive, my >premiums would go down. We've now learned that we no longer have coverage, for the most cases, for "driver education" events that occur at race tracks. Some learn this the hard way and now the language is usually very clear in the policies but it wasn't always that way. The question here is not if a system fails, or if you're running on bald tires in an ice storm but if you deliberately disable a safety system in your car can your insurance carrier deny a claim if they can draw a connection between your claim, the severity of injury, and the likelihood that your "tampering" somehow contributed to the cost of the claim? I've learned the hard way in Virginia that when someone else is obviously at fault, if the insurance company or another involved party can claim that the other party (you!) had even a "1%" involvement in the incident, then both parties share the blame. How this is interpreted seems up to the insurance companies, but certainly if you are hit and 1% of your injury could be from your disabling the airbag, seems like it only helps the insurance company. I still think you should as your insurance company what they'd do if you removed the air bag. Better to ask first than find out later that you've been paying premiums under false pretense. -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:54:36 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now if you could only make morons who don't wear their seatbelts have to pay higher premiums.......I mean, it's good & all that this behavior will lead to less murk in the gene pool, but we have to pay for it...... Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Marx > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 13:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering > > > >Ed MacVaugh > > > >There are 209 million cars registered in the US. If every one of the > >those with an alarm, ABS or airbag fault called their agent, > the phone > >system across the US would fail. I think you would be > misrepresenting > >your situation if you renewed your policy without correcting > the credit, > >but I don't think you need to call the agency when your ABS > sensor gets > >crudded with road debris. > > > >If every other policy holder quit lying about the mileage > they drive, my > >premiums would go down. > > We've now learned that we no longer have coverage, for the most > cases, for "driver education" events that occur at race tracks. Some > learn this the hard way and now the language is usually very clear in > the policies but it wasn't always that way. The question here is not > if a system fails, or if you're running on bald tires in an ice storm > but if you deliberately disable a safety system in your car can your > insurance carrier deny a claim if they can draw a connection between > your claim, the severity of injury, and the likelihood that your > "tampering" somehow contributed to the cost of the claim? > > I've learned the hard way in Virginia that when someone else is > obviously at fault, if the insurance company or another involved > party can claim that the other party (you!) had even a "1%" > involvement in the incident, then both parties share the blame. How > this is interpreted seems up to the insurance companies, but > certainly if you are hit and 1% of your injury could be from your > disabling the airbag, seems like it only helps the insurance company. > > I still think you should as your insurance company what they'd do if > you removed the air bag. Better to ask first than find out later that > you've been paying premiums under false pretense. > > -Phil > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'Knob's' Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I figured you would be speaking better by now. Gary Derian --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you kidding me?!?!? > > Hell, I can't even say youse around here without her > jumping on me.. But hey, > that's my good luck, right? > > Brett Anderson > KMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'Knob's' Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He is, he just isn't quite perfect yet... Later, Rich --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I figured you would be speaking better by now. > Gary Derian > > --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you kidding me?!?!? > > > > Hell, I can't even say youse around here without her > > jumping on me.. But hey, > > that's my good luck, right? > > > > Brett Anderson > > KMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:42:43 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 'Knob's' Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... or likes getting jumped upon, which I thought was the intention all along. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > He is, he just isn't quite perfect yet... > > Later, > > Rich > > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I figured you would be speaking better by now. > > Gary Derian > > > > --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are you kidding me?!?!? > > > > > > Hell, I can't even say youse around here without her > > > jumping on me.. But hey, > > > that's my good luck, right? > > > > > > Brett Anderson > > > KMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:50:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> States could have a law that prohibits removal of safety systems. They don't. When emission standards first came out, there were no laws against their removal either, but now there are. Gary Derian --- Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Anderson wrote: > > >To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that > require you to drive with an > >air bag. Most, if not all, states require that you > wear a seat belt when > >driving, none require you have an active air bag > system while driving. > > > That's because as a practical matter it couldn't be > done unless it > exempted all cars built prior to the requirement for > airbags (in which > case what's the point?) otherwise it would force > virtually all cars > built prior to the early 90's off the road. For > many people that would > deprive them of their only transportation. It > would also kill the > multi-billion dollar industry that caters to car > hobbyists putting > countless companies out of business and their > employees out of work. > Both would have an unacceptable economic impact. > Much like emissions > standards, the expectation is that the vast majority > of > non-airbag-equipped cars will eventually disappear > through natural > attrition. The tiny fraction that will remain won't > be significant. > > Brian > '94 325ic (meets 1994 safety and emissions > standards, but not > necessarily 2004 standards) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:11:37 -0400 From: "Michael Fagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E30 clutch hydraulics Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAAFAqAgy8D0+Ecdom/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to all who responded regarding my questions about installing the clutch master and slave cylinders. The new slave cylinder fixed the problem. However, when I was checking the master cylinder, I found one of the mounting bolts missing and the other almost screwed out fully. I'd suggest that a quick look in your own cars might be in order. Regards, Michael Fagan 1987 325ic 1991 325ica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:17:37 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: airbag waiver letters/ was steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The waiver letter I obtained from NHTSA is what I need to present to a shop for them to legally install an on/off switch. Brett: does the shop have to file anything with NHTSA after they install an on/off switch? Barry Brett Anderson wrote: >The NHTSA waiver is not for vehicle owners, although it is applied for and >filled out by them. >Once you own the car, you can do whatever you want to with the supplemental >restraint systems. Your insurance company may or may not become a problem if >you disable the bags, but that has nothing to do with the Guvinmint, >therefore, the law. >The NHTSA waiver is for the shop. It removes liability from the shop that >disconnects your air bag. >To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive with an >air bag. Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when >driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving. >Brett Anderson >KMS > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <E36> diff rebuild Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group, How much is a decent estimate for a comptent shop to rebuild a differential in my 93 325? Since I had the spare wheel on the rear along with the stock wider sized wheel, the clutch packs for the limited slip have gone far south and aren't ever coming back. It's steadily getting worse and making noise when I make right turns, even with the car in neutral or the clutch fully disengaged. Would anyone even recommend a rebuild or is a new one about the same cost? I am planning in the somewhat distant future (6-8 months or so) to pick up the 6 sp conversion kit from Zionsville, if it's still available at that time. Would the stock diff ratio be a good choice for the different tranny, or would a higher or lower ratio be better? Thanks, Brian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
