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Volume 2 : Issue 321 : "text" Format

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  E46 323Cic Window problem 
  Re: E46 323Cic Window problem 
  Re: Wheel Fitment question - aargh
  Re: E46 323Cic Window problem
  Re: E46 323Cic Window problem
  Re: E30 M3 turbo video
  Re: E30 M3 turbo video
  Re: Vin stickers
  Re: Vin stickers
  Re: Vin stickers
  Re: Vin stickers
  Re: Vin stickers
  Re: Vin stickers
  vin stickers
  Re: Wheel Fitment question

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:00:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick Ortwein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E46 323Cic Window problem 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My passenger window on my 2000 323Cic is not working. 
I was rolling it up and I heard a somewhat loud
popping sound.  Tried to roll it up after that and it
goes up about half way and makes some kind of a
grinding noise.  If I push on the window when its half
way up it falls down.

My warranty just expired 2 weeks ago...ugh!, Any
suggestions?  Not planning on fixing myself (unless is
really easy) just don't wanted to get the shaft from
the local repair shop.  

Thanks in advance for your replies,

Nick Ortwein
2000 323Cic





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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:10:09 -0600
From: "John Riganati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Nick Ortwein'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 323Cic Window problem 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Nick,

This happened on my 2000 328i a couple of months ago (rear passenger
window).  Sounds like the window lifter broke.  In my case, the plastic that
holds the cable ends in place broke.  There's no easy way to fix the plastic
holder, and the lifter is a complete unit, so you have to replace the entire
part.  Should cost around $75-$100 (I paid $75 with BMWCCA discount at local
dealer).

It is not a difficult repair, but you do have to take the door panel off in
order to get to it.  Took me maybe an hour total.

Regards,
John Riganati


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Ortwein
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] E46 323Cic Window problem 

My passenger window on my 2000 323Cic is not working. 
I was rolling it up and I heard a somewhat loud popping sound.  Tried to
roll it up after that and it goes up about half way and makes some kind of a
grinding noise.  If I push on the window when its half way up it falls down.

My warranty just expired 2 weeks ago...ugh!, Any suggestions?  Not planning
on fixing myself (unless is really easy) just don't wanted to get the shaft
from the local repair shop.  

Thanks in advance for your replies,

Nick Ortwein
2000 323Cic




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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:05:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wheel Fitment question - aargh
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


aaargh.  I wrote up a response to John's initial note which
never made it thru for some reason.

then, realizing that it hadn't made it thru, I forwarded what I
thought was the response.  given my luck, I didn't completely
read thru what I was forwarding from the "sent" folder in my
webmail & I was actually forwarded the first note I sent this
morning, which doesn't do anyone any good.

I screwed up the first bit about less offset meaning closer to
the strut, but the rest of the stuff in my note made sense.



Ben
really not this confused most of the time...

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:19:19 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 323Cic Window problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I haven't heard of this happening on an E46, but it is a common problem on E36 models. 
The plastic sliders crack, and the arms pop out, causing the exact problem you 
describe. 
Hate to hear you are seeing the same problem in an E46. The good news, if it is the 
same problem, repair is cheap, if you do it yourself. Parts are under $20 for a set of 
sliders. 
See http://www.understeer.com/ for a pretty good step by step repair.

Rick
E36M3


> 
> From: Nick Ortwein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/08/16 Mon PM 03:00:46 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UUC]  E46 323Cic Window problem
> 
> My passenger window on my 2000 323Cic is not working. 
> I was rolling it up and I heard a somewhat loud
> popping sound.  Tried to roll it up after that and it
> goes up about half way and makes some kind of a
> grinding noise.  If I push on the window when its half
> way up it falls down.
> 
> My warranty just expired 2 weeks ago...ugh!, Any
> suggestions?  Not planning on fixing myself (unless is
> really easy) just don't wanted to get the shaft from
> the local repair shop.  
> 
> Thanks in advance for your replies,
> 
> Nick Ortwein
> 2000 323Cic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:37:05 -0600
From: "John Riganati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 323Cic Window problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From looking at the pictures on the site mentioned below, it appears that
the regulators (lifters) are different between the E46 and the E36.  For a
benchmark though, the "difficulty" is about the same as the outlined
procedure.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] E46 323Cic Window problem

I haven't heard of this happening on an E46, but it is a common problem on
E36 models. The plastic sliders crack, and the arms pop out, causing the
exact problem you describe. 
Hate to hear you are seeing the same problem in an E46. The good news, if it
is the same problem, repair is cheap, if you do it yourself. Parts are under
$20 for a set of sliders. 
See http://www.understeer.com/ for a pretty good step by step repair.

Rick
E36M3


> 
> From: Nick Ortwein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/08/16 Mon PM 03:00:46 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UUC]  E46 323Cic Window problem
> 
> My passenger window on my 2000 323Cic is not working. 
> I was rolling it up and I heard a somewhat loud popping sound.  Tried 
> to roll it up after that and it goes up about half way and makes some 
> kind of a grinding noise.  If I push on the window when its half way 
> up it falls down.
> 
> My warranty just expired 2 weeks ago...ugh!, Any suggestions?  Not 
> planning on fixing myself (unless is really easy) just don't wanted to 
> get the shaft from the local repair shop.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your replies,
> 
> Nick Ortwein
> 2000 323Cic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> ____ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the 
> BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate 
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 

Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short
Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 M3 turbo video
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ummmmmmm... what video?

Neil

--- Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In watching this video, it looks like the driver
> turns
> the wheel sharply left and right as he takes off
> from
> the line.  Is this to counteract fishtailing from
> the
> torque, or am I mistaken in what I see?
> 
> Brian
> 93 325
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> home of the Ultimate
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:58:41 -0400
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 M3 turbo video
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The one somebody posted a link to about a week ago.   It shows a 
turbocharged E30 M3 running a 9.46 quarter mile at 218.89 kph.
To answer Brian's question, it's hard to tell from the clip.  The rear 
end appears to kick out slightly to the right and you see the driver's 
left arm come up as he turns right to correct.

Brian
'94 325ic
'94 Cobra - been to the drag strip on more than a few occasions. 

Neil N. wrote:

>Ummmmmmm... what video?
>
>Neil
>
>--- Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>In watching this video, it looks like the driver
>>turns
>>the wheel sharply left and right as he takes off
>>from
>>the line.  Is this to counteract fishtailing from
>>the
>>torque, or am I mistaken in what I see?
>>
>>Brian
>>93 325
>>
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:28:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In looking at used E30's we made sure that the door, trunk and fender Vins
matched with the dash Vin (from a past thread on the Digest). But we found
on two of the cars that the driver side Vin sticker was "DOT R". Is this an
indication of a replacement part?

-Kevin



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:41:38 -0500
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You betcha. The DOT sticker means it has been replaced per an accident.

Alex Cagann
http://www.autoconsortium.com

> In looking at used E30's we made sure that the door, trunk and fender Vins
> matched with the dash Vin (from a past thread on the Digest). But we found
> on two of the cars that the driver side Vin sticker was "DOT R".
> Is this an
> indication of a replacement part?
>
> -Kevin




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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:52:22 -0400
From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Alex said
> You betcha. The DOT sticker means it has been replaced per an accident.
>

or just replaced because the original rusted out

my E30 (and most around here) have had front fenders replaced because the
originals rusted through (mostly at the lower section right behind the front
wheel)

another quick way to see if the front fenders have been replaced is to look
for the join between the front fender panel and the sheetmetal across the
front of the car below the grill.. from the factory the joint comes leaded
and painted.. when you replace the fender most people just paint again but
don't join the panels with lead so you see a crack where they meet


chris pawlowicz
'89 325i
'99 Z3 2.8


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:48:41 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes, but more importantly, it says it was replaced with a factory BMW part,
not aftermarket junk.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----

> In looking at used E30's we made sure that the door, trunk and fender Vins
> matched with the dash Vin (from a past thread on the Digest). But we found
> on two of the cars that the driver side Vin sticker was "DOT R". Is this an
> indication of a replacement part?
>
> -Kevin
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:40:47 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Exactly, that was a new replacement panel (as opposed to a used one
off another car showing a different VIN).

- Rob


---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC]  Vin stickers

>In looking at used E30's we made sure that the door, trunk and fender
>Vins
>matched with the dash Vin (from a past thread on the Digest). But we
>found
>on two of the cars that the driver side Vin sticker was "DOT R". Is
>this an
>indication of a replacement part?
>
>-Kevin




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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:43:08 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 05:28 PM 8/16/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] talked about:

>In looking at used E30's we made sure that the door, trunk and fender Vins
>matched with the dash Vin (from a past thread on the Digest). But we found
>on two of the cars that the driver side Vin sticker was "DOT R". Is this an
>indication of a replacement part?

Yes.

Jim Bassett

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:04:58 -0500
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vin stickers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes, I apologize. Most certainly it 'could have' been replaced from being
rusted. In my experience in the midwest, I've seen barely any E30's with
panel replacement from rust (at least, the trunk, front fenders). These
R-Dot panels are factory replacements. It could have also been a small
parking lot accident or the like. Obviously, depending on how cautious a
buyer you are, the only way to tell for certain is to have it inspected on a
lift or jig to look for frame damage. IMO, just because an older BMW has a
DOT panel definitely doesn't remove it from consideration of purchase. If
the car is right and the price is right, mechanicals, etc...don't pass it up
just because of this. I've seen plenty of nice pieces that were in the wrong
place at the wrong time at once....so to speak :-)

Alex Cagann
http://www.autoconsortium.com



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:17:41 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wheel Fitment question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ben has now been demoted to "wheel whore"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 I shall strip him of wheel pimp status for that one.  :-)
> 
> Carlos.


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