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Volume 2 : Issue 355 : "text" Format

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  <E36> Raising the ride height?
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  Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
  Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(8 messages)
  NY/NJ/CT -  BMW NA Vehicle Processing Center Tour Sept 18
  E36 backlight repair
  Re: E36 backlight repair
  Re: E36 backlight repair
  audio experts:  component speaker q's
  Re: audio experts:  component speaker q's
  Re: stereo
  BMW 2000 CS rear light for sale on ebay.de

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 11:54:33 +0200
From: Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I recently installed complete new suspension package (springs, struts,
shocks) on my E36, and the ride is a little too low for my practical
needs. I got it 2nd hand, and it's not precisely what I expected but
I'm still very happy with it - massive grin factor :)

The handling is great and I wouldn't like to mess with it but apart
scraping I'm also concerned whether the excess camber can be corrected
without aftermarket camber plates.

I have the option to get a set of urethane spring spacers made to my
requirements. Is there anything inherently bad with this approach? The
alternative is to get a set of Eibach Pro-Kit springs. I'm still
waiting for pricing of the spacers, but I'm sure it will be cheaper
than a new set of springs.

Any suggestions?

Best regards,
Pavel

'94 320i.

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Search the archives for the heat treating discussion
on shortening springs from a few weeks ago.  I'm sure
the same methods can be used to stretch a heated,
spring, right Gary?

Actually, depending on how much raising you need, you
can get thicker stock spring pads, top and bottom, I
believe.  If that doesn't do it, you can always remove
a couple of hundred pounds of weight from the car, in
the form of seats, carpet, spare tire, etc.  

:-)


Neil
--- Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently installed complete new suspension package
> (springs, struts,
> shocks) on my E36, and the ride is a little too low
> for my practical
> needs. I got it 2nd hand, and it's not precisely
> what I expected but
> I'm still very happy with it - massive grin factor
> :)
> 
> The handling is great and I wouldn't like to mess
> with it but apart
> scraping I'm also concerned whether the excess
> camber can be corrected
> without aftermarket camber plates.
> 
> I have the option to get a set of urethane spring
> spacers made to my
> requirements. Is there anything inherently bad with
> this approach? The
> alternative is to get a set of Eibach Pro-Kit
> springs. I'm still
> waiting for pricing of the spacers, but I'm sure it
> will be cheaper
> than a new set of springs.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Best regards,
> Pavel
> 
> '94 320i.
> Search the
>
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>
__________________________________________________________________________
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> founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and
> home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:25:29 +0200
From: Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It's only the front I want to raise, actually, I'm perfectly happy
with the rear. It's just that I had two sets of rear springs to choose
from, but only one set of fronts. The rear is dropped about an inch.
The front - more like one and a half. I want to raise the front by
about half an inch.

BMW makes rear pads in different thicknesses, but I only found one
type of front pads in the ETK. Looking at the pads on the struts that
came off, they're not adding more than 1/4 inch. The urethane spacers
go in the strut, between the original pad and the strut itself.

P.


On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), Neil N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Search the archives for the heat treating discussion
> on shortening springs from a few weeks ago.  I'm sure
> the same methods can be used to stretch a heated,
> spring, right Gary?
> 
> Actually, depending on how much raising you need, you
> can get thicker stock spring pads, top and bottom, I
> believe.  If that doesn't do it, you can always remove
> a couple of hundred pounds of weight from the car, in
> the form of seats, carpet, spare tire, etc.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> --- Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I recently installed complete new suspension package
> > (springs, struts,
> > shocks) on my E36, and the ride is a little too low
> > for my practical
> > needs. I got it 2nd hand, and it's not precisely
> > what I expected but
> > I'm still very happy with it - massive grin factor
> > :)
> >
> > The handling is great and I wouldn't like to mess
> > with it but apart
> > scraping I'm also concerned whether the excess
> > camber can be corrected
> > without aftermarket camber plates.
> >
> > I have the option to get a set of urethane spring
> > spacers made to my
> > requirements. Is there anything inherently bad with
> > this approach? The
> > alternative is to get a set of Eibach Pro-Kit
> > springs. I'm still
> > waiting for pricing of the spacers, but I'm sure it
> > will be cheaper
> > than a new set of springs.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Pavel
> >
> > '94 320i.
> > Search the
> >
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast,
> > founder of the BMW CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and
> > home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> >
> 
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:57:31 -0700
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

All,

Are you serious? Can you heat and stretch a spring without impacting its 
characteristics (ie, spring rating). I think springs are made to exact 
specifications and heating them would alter the performance of the spring.

Regarding Thicker Pads:BMW only makes one pad for the 5-Series at least per 
my dealer. Are there aftermarket pads out there?

I've got the same issue with my H&R springs on my 540i. I like everything 
about them (and Konis) except that the front is about .5" too low for me. If 
there is a safe and proven  procedure I'd "stretch" my springs in a 
heartbeat.

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S1
(+hi-flow manifold, 18" RK2s)
'01 525iTa: w/ 540i wheels
Portland, OR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> Raising the ride height?


Search the archives for the heat treating discussion
on shortening springs from a few weeks ago.  I'm sure
the same methods can be used to stretch a heated,
spring, right Gary?

Actually, depending on how much raising you need, you
can get thicker stock spring pads, top and bottom, I
believe.  If that doesn't do it, you can always remove
a couple of hundred pounds of weight from the car, in
the form of seats, carpet, spare tire, etc.

:-)


Neil
--- Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently installed complete new suspension package
> (springs, struts,
> shocks) on my E36, and the ride is a little too low
> for my practical
> needs. I got it 2nd hand, and it's not precisely
> what I expected but
> I'm still very happy with it - massive grin factor
> :)
>
> The handling is great and I wouldn't like to mess
> with it but apart
> scraping I'm also concerned whether the excess
> camber can be corrected
> without aftermarket camber plates.
>
> I have the option to get a set of urethane spring
> spacers made to my
> requirements. Is there anything inherently bad with
> this approach? The
> alternative is to get a set of Eibach Pro-Kit
> springs. I'm still
> waiting for pricing of the spacers, but I'm sure it
> will be cheaper
> than a new set of springs.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best regards,
> Pavel
>
> '94 320i.
> Search the
>
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
__________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast,
> founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and
> home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>




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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:01:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

All steel starts out as a liquid.
Gary Derian

--- John Kjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All,
> 
> Are you serious? Can you heat and stretch a spring
> without impacting its 
> characteristics (ie, spring rating). I think springs
> are made to exact 
> specifications and heating them would alter the
> performance of the spring.



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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:24:46 -0700
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Raising the ride height?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My Friend Gary,

AND......you forgot the rest, please continue..."All steel starts out as a 
liquid_________________________________________________"

I'm anxious to hear some expert opinions about this. I've even given some 
thought to putting the stock springs back in the car. Can you 
imagine....stock anything.

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S1
(+hi-flow manifold, 18" RK2s)
'01 525iTa: w/ 540i wheels
Portland, OR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> Raising the ride height?


All steel starts out as a liquid.
Gary Derian

--- John Kjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All,
>
> Are you serious? Can you heat and stretch a spring
> without impacting its
> characteristics (ie, spring rating). I think springs
> are made to exact
> specifications and heating them would alter the
> performance of the spring.


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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 05:06:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(8 messages)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cool, thanks Phil.
J

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:16:48 -0400
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rolex Vintage Festival
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That's Peter Nettesheim, also a CCA NY Chapter 
member. See him here:
http://www.libmwrc.com/articles.cfm?newsletterID=21




                
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:22:41 -0400
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NY/NJ/CT -  BMW NA Vehicle Processing Center Tour Sept 18
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

BMW NA Vehicle Processing Center
Saturday, September 18, 2004
Destination: Auto Marine Terminal, Jersey City, NJ

National Capital Chapter will be hosting a tour to the BMW NA Vehicle 
Processing Center at the Auto Marine Terminal, Jersey City, NJ, on 
Saturday, September 18. The left coast chapters have toured the 
Oxnard facility in California, but we will be the first to tour our 
East Coast facility. Several club members have had a preliminary tour 
a few weeks ago and were very impressed with the operation. Two to 
three thousand BMWs roll off the boat and are processed in only a few 
days. From clean up, to body work, to software upgrades, this 
facility does it all, and very efficiently. Rolls Royce and the MINI 
are also prepped for delivery at this location.

Tours will be from 10:00 to 12:00, with a German lunch being served 
from 12:00 to 1:30. BMW NA will provide knowledgeable speakers to 
address a variety of current topics. 1:30 to 2:30 are additional 
tours or Q&A sessions with BMW NA.

We need the final head count by 9/11 so make your decision NOW.
I'd like to limit this to CCA members only. Consider it a member benefit.

Cost is $15/person to cover lunch and must be prepaid.

Signup form and details are at
http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?id=8,189,0,0,1,0
-- 
...steven
2006 BMW M2 <wishful thinking>
2003 Mini Cooper S
1996 BMW 328ti
1990 Mazda MX6 +200800 miles

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E36 backlight repair
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

The backlight for my clock on my E36 OBC has burnt
out, I've found some write-ups about it, but they're
all for E30s, can anyone verify that it's basically
the same procedure to replace the E36 bulb as the E30?
or if anyone has a link to a E36 procedure that would
help too.

here are the pages I've found as reference:

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html

http://www.bmwe30.net/cgi-bin/datacgi/database.cgi?file=articles&report=view&ID=00052&Section=02

thanks,

Paul


                
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:54:54 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 backlight repair
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Much easier, no tools required, cheaper bulbs.

You push out the unit with your fingers from below, overcoming little 
plastic fingers that are holding the unit into the dash. Bulbs quarter 
turn out. Replacement bulbs are color coded, so long as the base is the 
same color as yours are, you have the correct bulb. Press carefully back 
into place.

Ed

Paul T wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The backlight for my clock on my E36 OBC has burnt
>out, I've found some write-ups about it, but they're
>all for E30s, can anyone verify that it's basically
>the same procedure to replace the E36 bulb as the E30?
>or if anyone has a link to a E36 procedure that would
>help too.
>  
>


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:22:56 -0500
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E36 backlight repair
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What about the Radio?
My radio requires a few "slaps upside da head" to light up.
Is it the bulbs or the illumination circuit?

Paul A. Garnier
Systems Integration
FastNetworking



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed MacVaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 backlight repair


Much easier, no tools required, cheaper bulbs.

You push out the unit with your fingers from below, overcoming little 
plastic fingers that are holding the unit into the dash. Bulbs quarter 
turn out. Replacement bulbs are color coded, so long as the base is the 
same color as yours are, you have the correct bulb. Press carefully back

into place.

Ed

Paul T wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The backlight for my clock on my E36 OBC has burnt
>out, I've found some write-ups about it, but they're
>all for E30s, can anyone verify that it's basically
>the same procedure to replace the E36 bulb as the E30?
>or if anyone has a link to a E36 procedure that would
>help too.
>  
>

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________________________________________________________________________
__
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 .
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:27:09 -0500
From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uuc (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: audio experts:  component speaker q's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I recently installed component Boston Acoustic Rally speakers (5.25 mids + 1" 
tweeters), front and rear in my 525iA.  No factory wiring was used.  BA indicates they 
do not supply passive crossovers but divider networks; not sure of the difference.  
The amp driving the rear speakers died.  So, since the front amp is a Pioneer 60W x 2 
channel rated for 2 ohms, I added the rear speakers in series to the front.  Now it 
seems that the sound level of the front mids have decreased.  

Is there something wrong with connecting the front and rear in series?  For 
clarification, the + (pos) amp output was connected to the rear + (pos) divider input 
and the rear - (neg) divider output was connected to the + (pos) front divider input 
and the front - (neg) output was connected to the - (neg) amp input.  Is the divider 
output filtered in some way, affecting the next divider?

I'm guessing the rear speakers will have to go silent until EBay yields up a treasure. 
 (Me likey a/d/s or Extant.)

Cheers,

Roland


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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:52:58 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: audio experts:  component speaker q's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am no expert (nor did I sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night), but
putting the speakers in SERIES doubles the amount of ohms presented to the
amp. So 2 x 4 ohm speakers in series = an 8 ohm load. Putting the speakers
in parallel would result in a load of 2 ohms (if the speakers are 4 ohms) or
4 ohms (if the speakers are 8 ohms).

In any case, there is no free lunch. You are asking the amp to do twice
the work so you will not get as much out of the first pair of speakers as
you did before you added the second pair (for a given volume level).

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black


At 01:27 PM 09/08/2004 -0500, Beaudette, Roland wrote:
>I recently installed component Boston Acoustic Rally speakers (5.25 mids + 
>1" tweeters), front and rear in my 525iA.  No factory wiring was used.  BA 
>indicates they do not supply passive crossovers but divider networks; not 
>sure of the difference.  The amp driving the rear speakers died.  So, 
>since the front amp is a Pioneer 60W x 2 channel rated for 2 ohms, I added 
>the rear speakers in series to the front.  Now it seems that the sound 
>level of the front mids have decreased.
>
>Is there something wrong with connecting the front and rear in 
>series?  For clarification, the + (pos) amp output was connected to the 
>rear + (pos) divider input and the rear - (neg) divider output was 
>connected to the + (pos) front divider input and the front - (neg) output 
>was connected to the - (neg) amp input.  Is the divider output filtered in 
>some way, affecting the next divider?
>
>I'm guessing the rear speakers will have to go silent until EBay yields up 
>a treasure.  (Me likey a/d/s or Extant.)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Roland
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:15:12 -0500
From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uuc (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stereo
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marc,

Thanks for the advice.  BTW, Circuit City provided a 6" Bazooka tube prior to Xmas for 
the "real" bass.  I'm mostly confused that the front mids alone sound funny.  
Although, Dennis pointed out why working from memory is a bad idea.  Series resistance 
is added, parallel resistance is the sum of the inverse.  That would explain why the 
overall volume level is down.  Doh!

Cheers,

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Beaudette, Roland
Subject: stereo


Not sure ahout your wiring issue, but the Eclipse amplifiers are pretty nice too, you 
can get a 4x50 amp that puts out solid sound levels for $150. (ea3422).  Also, 
consider using the back to generate bass and keeping the front as a stereo sound 
stage.  Not sure aboutthe 5 series, but 8" free air subwoofers fit nicely in the back 
area of a 3 series.  I'm not talking boom boom sound, just rich bass to complement the 
fine imaging you've paid for up front.  5 1/4 drivers really can't cut it properly.

http://scorpion.makes.it/  gives you a sense of baffles that could be used for the 
conversion.  again, not sure about 5 series interoperability.

Marc Plante
E36 M3/4
a/d/s 345is spekers waiting for install up front as soon as I get a new Eclipse 
headunit, amp and some time...




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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:57:30 +0000
From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BMW 2000 CS rear light for sale on ebay.de
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No one I know, endorse, am paid to represent, etc.

Just passing on helpful info.  See ebay.de auction 2488580600, left (used) 
complete tail light from a 2000 CS.  Appears that it may include the rear 
fog light but I'll leave this for the CS gurus to deal with.


Gregory in Geneva



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