The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 78 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Good GOD! Re: Good GOD! E34 525iA motor stumble Re: E34 525iA motor stumble Re: E34 525iA motor stumble Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Re: Good GOD! Re: Good GOD! Re: <E30> Exxon Valdez goes on Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Carax - can someone run a vin for me?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Good GOD! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> the advent of a production BMW with a blower... not >> sure whether to squeal in delight or moan in pity for >> the beginning of the end of BMW NA... Naturally >> Aspirated, that is. ;) Technically, I believe the MINI Cooper S was the first BMW-marketed blower (supercharger) car. And if you're counting Alpinas to begin with, there's been a long history of turbo Alpinas starting in the 70s. In a more recent development, BMW this week announced a new twin-turbo 300bhp 3.0l L6 that'll likely debut in the new 3er coupe. And the next MINI will debut with a new 4-banger turbo as well. (woohoo!) I think the Europeans are embracing forced induction (via the popularity of diesels) the way the Japanese did in the 80s. > > > BMW History 101 > > Turbocharging has been part of BMW's heritage for many > years, just not greatly represented in the USA. > > - Turbo diesel models (including recent twin-turbo > torque-monsters) have been available almost continuously in > Europe for about 20 years. > > - 2002 Turbos in good shape are quite collectible. > > - The mid 1980's 524td turbo diesel was a US model and is > still coveted for it's high mpg and E28 chassis reliability. > > > - 745i turbo gas 3.2/3.4l was gray-market imported quite > often in the early/mid 1980s. > > - Turbo diesels are currently available in Euro-spec 3er, > 5er, and 7er. The turbodiesel V8 exceeds the E39 M5's > torque output, and the twin-turbo I6 is darn close. > > - One of BMW Motorsport's first really big projects was a > supercar called the "Turbo Car" designed to be powered by a > turbocharged 4-cylinder gas motor. You'd recognize the show > car if you saw one... it became the M1, albeit with NA > power. > > Nothing really changes in the automotive world, not even > BMW... only which generation of M3 owners are getting mad at > the newer generation. ;-) > > - Rob > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > -- Kazuto Okayasu Administrative Computing Services University of California, Irvine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:01:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Good GOD! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> Additionally, it could indicate a change in direction of BMW's view of forced induction... </snip> *AHEM* ...of forced induction for mainstream models. Just wanted to be clear. ;) Brian > Rob, > > I am very aware of BMW's heritage with > turbochargers, > European turbo diesels etc, but of course those cars > are/were hard or impossible to come by in the US, as > most if not all of the US bound turbo models had, > AFAIK, relatively low production volume. > > What I meant by my comment was that because the US > market has had extremely few mainstream production > based forced induction models to choose from over > the > years, this is pretty interesting. AFAIK, the > Alpina > models were specifically that, Alpina. After > modification, they became retitled as an Alpina > brand > car. This time with their journey with Alpina for > the > B7, it looks to me to be more of an attempt at a > mainstream presentation of forced induction into > BMW's > US lineup, and it also seems that BMW will be having > more of a brand presence in this than with previous > Alpina models. > > Additionally, it could indicate a change in > direction > of BMW's view of forced induction. As Kazuto > mentioned, BMW introduced the bi-turbo 3.0L engine, > which seems to support this theory even more. > > In any case, I was just communicating my pride in > BMW > engineering, that they, unlike many other > manufacturers these days, have managed to maintain > an > engineering prestige and stay at the top of their > pack > without resorting to forced induction or any sort of > other setups. This is a something to admire, I > think. > :) I really like that BMW stuck with naturally > aspirated engines for mainstream production models > and > have still been able to get the power out of them > that > they do. I don't recall hearing of too many other > naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines that produced > 200 hp back in 1988, did you? Engineering indeed. > :) > > Brian > 95 M3 > > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > the advent of a production BMW with a blower... > > not > > > sure whether to squeal in delight or moan in > pity > > for > > > the beginning of the end of BMW NA... Naturally > > > Aspirated, that is. ;) > > > > > > BMW History 101 > > > > Turbocharging has been part of BMW's heritage for > > many > > years, just not greatly represented in the USA. > > > > - Turbo diesel models (including recent twin-turbo > > torque-monsters) have been available almost > > continuously in > > Europe for about 20 years. > > > > - 2002 Turbos in good shape are quite collectible. > > > > - The mid 1980's 524td turbo diesel was a US model > > and is > > still coveted for it's high mpg and E28 chassis > > reliability. > > > > > > - 745i turbo gas 3.2/3.4l was gray-market imported > > quite > > often in the early/mid 1980s. > > > > - Turbo diesels are currently available in > Euro-spec > > 3er, > > 5er, and 7er. The turbodiesel V8 exceeds the E39 > > M5's > > torque output, and the twin-turbo I6 is darn > close. > > > > - One of BMW Motorsport's first really big > projects > > was a > > supercar called the "Turbo Car" designed to be > > powered by a > > turbocharged 4-cylinder gas motor. You'd > recognize > > the show > > car if you saw one... it became the M1, albeit > with > > NA > > power. > > > > Nothing really changes in the automotive world, > not > > even > > BMW... only which generation of M3 owners are > > getting mad at > > the newer generation. ;-) > > > > - Rob > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:10:36 -0500 From: "Beaudette, Roland SIKORSKY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC ([email protected])" <[email protected]> Subject: E34 525iA motor stumble Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My latest issue is with the engine (as if no heat in New England isn't enough!). The engine stumbles from idle to about 3k. It is much less noticeable above that speed. Replaced plugs on Tuesday; one existing plug fouled with carbon (all black). Checked said plug, #2 cylinder, and it is fouled again. When I disconnect the plug wire from any plug but #2, the engine stumbles even more so but no change with #2. I'm wondering if it is a bad injector. Anything else to look at? Cheers, Roland- rail against the dieing of the night, err, E34! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:33:40 -0600 From: "Eric Giles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E34 525iA motor stumble Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Roland- Have you replaced/checked your distributor cap/rotor or plug wires recently? I would look there first. Eric Giles '88 M3 '05 330i ZHP > My latest issue is with the engine (as if no heat in New England isn't > enough!). The engine stumbles from idle to about 3k. It is much less > noticeable above that speed. Replaced plugs on Tuesday; one existing plug > fouled with carbon (all black). Checked said plug, #2 cylinder, and it is > fouled again. When I disconnect the plug wire from any plug but #2, the > engine stumbles even more so but no change with #2. > > I'm wondering if it is a bad injector. Anything else to look at? > > Cheers, > > Roland- rail against the dieing of the night, err, E34! > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jake Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Beaudette, Roland SIKORSKY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC \([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E34 525iA motor stumble Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sounds more like a coil or spark plug wire issue. --- "Beaudette, Roland SIKORSKY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My latest issue is with the engine (as if no heat in > New England isn't > enough!). The engine stumbles from idle to about > 3k. It is much less > noticeable above that speed. Replaced plugs on > Tuesday; one existing plug > fouled with carbon (all black). Checked said plug, > #2 cylinder, and it is > fouled again. When I disconnect the plug wire from > any plug but #2, the > engine stumbles even more so but no change with #2. > > I'm wondering if it is a bad injector. Anything > else to look at? > > Cheers, > > Roland- rail against the dieing of the night, err, > E34! > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:20:16 -0500 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For this discussion, do you consider the S52 a "real ///M" engine? I've been using M1 0W-40 year-round, but will switch to M1 15W-50 (both ACEA A3 rated) in summer if it's the right thing to do. Thanks. Dave Meyer 99 M coupe Stafford VA Gary wrote: >For a "real ///M" engine Use 0W-40 when you have >very cold starts, and 15W-50 when its warm. >For normal engines, the 0W-40 is great all year long. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:31:52 -0800 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Good GOD! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:17 AM 2/25/2006, Mark Gold wrote: >That is a pretty mean looking E30 and a fairly clean install. Edge >Motorworks in Dublin shoehorned a 4.4 into an E36 M3 but their motor >sits slightly tilted in the engine bay. I wonder how much fab work >was required to make the motor sit correctly in the E30. Comparing the Edge Motorworks car to this E30 is really comparing apples to oranges. This E30 looks like a really nice project car, while the Edge car was built as a competitive Solo2 car. Which really means that the Edge car had a whole different set of parameters/constraints/requirements that it had to satisfy. Things like meeting the rules for the class and getting the best possible handling were far more important than esthetics. Just FYI, the engine was tilted for a reason. The rules for the class that the car was built for did not allow modifying the steering column, so the engine was tilted so that the header would clear the column. If this was a show car, or just a fun project car that did not have to follow any rules, it would not have been very difficult to either reroute the steering column, or modify the strut tower to make the engine sit straight. Even easier would have been to mount the engine a little farther forward in the engine bay. None of these options were really seen as either legal, or desirable - just another example of the tradeoffs that you have to make when you approach a project like this... Jim Ochi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:58:24 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Good GOD! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob, I am very aware of BMW's heritage with turbochargers, European turbo diesels etc, but of course those cars are/were hard or impossible to come by in the US, as most if not all of the US bound turbo models had, AFAIK, relatively low production volume. What I meant by my comment was that because the US market has had extremely few mainstream production based forced induction models to choose from over the years, this is pretty interesting. AFAIK, the Alpina models were specifically that, Alpina. After modification, they became retitled as an Alpina brand car. This time with their journey with Alpina for the B7, it looks to me to be more of an attempt at a mainstream presentation of forced induction into BMW's US lineup, and it also seems that BMW will be having more of a brand presence in this than with previous Alpina models. Additionally, it could indicate a change in direction of BMW's view of forced induction. As Kazuto mentioned, BMW introduced the bi-turbo 3.0L engine, which seems to support this theory even more. In any case, I was just communicating my pride in BMW engineering, that they, unlike many other manufacturers these days, have managed to maintain an engineering prestige and stay at the top of their pack without resorting to forced induction or any sort of other setups. This is a something to admire, I think. :) I really like that BMW stuck with naturally aspirated engines for mainstream production models and have still been able to get the power out of them that they do. I don't recall hearing of too many other naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines that produced 200 hp back in 1988, did you? Engineering indeed. :) Brian 95 M3 --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > the advent of a production BMW with a blower... > not > > sure whether to squeal in delight or moan in pity > for > > the beginning of the end of BMW NA... Naturally > > Aspirated, that is. ;) > > > BMW History 101 > > Turbocharging has been part of BMW's heritage for > many > years, just not greatly represented in the USA. > > - Turbo diesel models (including recent twin-turbo > torque-monsters) have been available almost > continuously in > Europe for about 20 years. > > - 2002 Turbos in good shape are quite collectible. > > - The mid 1980's 524td turbo diesel was a US model > and is > still coveted for it's high mpg and E28 chassis > reliability. > > > - 745i turbo gas 3.2/3.4l was gray-market imported > quite > often in the early/mid 1980s. > > - Turbo diesels are currently available in Euro-spec > 3er, > 5er, and 7er. The turbodiesel V8 exceeds the E39 > M5's > torque output, and the twin-turbo I6 is darn close. > > - One of BMW Motorsport's first really big projects > was a > supercar called the "Turbo Car" designed to be > powered by a > turbocharged 4-cylinder gas motor. You'd recognize > the show > car if you saw one... it became the M1, albeit with > NA > power. > > Nothing really changes in the automotive world, not > even > BMW... only which generation of M3 owners are > getting mad at > the newer generation. ;-) > > - Rob > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:48:31 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E30> Exxon Valdez goes on Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:39:45PM -0600, Paul Craven wrote: > Hi all, I am still fighting an oil leak on my 125 kmile 93 325ic. I > cleaned up the bottom of the engine a bit and discovered just about > nothing except that the oil is mostly on the passenger side of my LHD > (US) car. The oil pressure switch seems dry.I also determined that > the engine block is shiny all the way up to the head on the paasenger > side. Is this indicative of a head gasket issue? Is this a commoen > E30 issue? I 'll do further research on the car as it warms up in KS, > but wondered what the collective thought of this. Some years ago when my 1993 e30 325ic was under warranty, the dealer replaced the head gasket for me to get rid of the oil running down the side of the engine. Now it only drips a little out the rear main seal. ..some people demagnetize credit cards, some people cause wristwatches to break or run inaccurately, some people cause random computer errors that technicians can't reproduce. I cause cars to leak oil just a little. My e39 leaks power steering fluid ever so slowly. -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:48:20 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some independent BMW mechanics who have spoken up on the subject say to stick as closely as possible to the manufacturer's recommendations, even with new synthetic oil. And don't forget, this is not just for lubrication, it is also for the proper functioning of the hydraulic lifters. Heck, M50/M52/S50/S52 lifters have been known to get noisy and starved for oil after hard running when using the correct oil! Why tempt fate with thinner oil? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] [bimmerheads] Choice of oil > --- Scott & Charlotte Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the upper end there is some seemingly conflicting info which I'll > > simply report and leave for you to figure out. > > > > 10W-30 is good up to +40 deg f. > > 10W-40 is good up to +50 deg f. > > 10W-50 is good up to +70 deg f. > > 15W-40 is good up to +85-ish deg f. > > 15W-50 is good up to +105-ish deg f. > > 20W-50 is good up to 120+ deg f. > > Smiller, that chart is bunk these days of synth oil and body piercings. > 10W40 good for up to +50 degree weather, AYFKM?? > > -Carlos. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Scott & Charlotte Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Scott & Charlotte Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some independent BMW mechanics who have spoken up on the subject say > to stick as closely as possible to the manufacturer's > recommendations, > even with new synthetic oil. And don't forget, this is not just for > lubrication, it is also for the proper functioning of the hydraulic > lifters. Heck, M50/M52/S50/S52 lifters have been known to get noisy > and starved for oil after hard running when using the correct oil! > Why tempt fate with thinner oil? Bah what do they know? ;-) I run Castrol synthetic 5W50 in my ///Marketing 332is (w/S52) and have no ticking lifters. Not autoxing, track events, or the short 5 lap race that it ran. Previously I was an avid Mobil 1 user but since the car has ran the Castrol all its life I've kept that going. I may switch the '89 to this stuff once it warms up around here. -Carlos 98 M3 on 5W50 89 325i on 10w30 88 325is on 10w40 and it burns it, leaks it, you name it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:32:09 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Carlos Lopez wrote: > I run Castrol synthetic 5W50 in my ///Marketing 332is (w/S52) and have > no ticking lifters. Not autoxing, track events, or the short 5 lap > race that it ran. Previously I was an avid Mobil 1 user but since the > car has ran the Castrol all its life I've kept that going. I may > switch the '89 to this stuff once it warms up around here. When I bought my old E30 M3, it had been a lifetime Castrol Syntec car. When we dropped the oil pan to replace the oil pump, we discovered that all of the engine internals were covered in a chocolate-colored oil sludge. Not pretty. I subsequently mentioned that on the E30 M3 List and a bunch of other people chimed in with "Yeah, I run that oil, and I'm seeing that, too." That's enough for me. - Mark, Mobil 1 user ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:15:18 -0500 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark Dadgar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] Choice of oil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not all Castrol Syntec oils are created equally... :-) Regards, Rich - has a fair bit of German made Castrol Syntec 0W30 in stock > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Dadgar > When I bought my old E30 M3, it had been a lifetime Castrol Syntec > car. When we dropped the oil pan to replace the oil pump, we > discovered that all of the engine internals were covered in a > chocolate-colored oil sludge. Not pretty. > > I subsequently mentioned that on the E30 M3 List and a bunch of other > people chimed in with "Yeah, I run that oil, and I'm seeing that, too." > > That's enough for me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:58:36 -0800 (PST) From: dinty44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Carax - can someone run a vin for me? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carfax - can someone run a vin for me? Email me offline. Thanks in advance, David Moore __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
