The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 69 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: parts advice..... E-46 Modified Suspension/Alignment questions... Re: e46 oil light <E36> heater core lines and fuel lines BMW R&D <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft <E36> M3 bumper covers Re: <E36> M3 bumper covers Re: speedos reading high.....=20 Re: German Police...
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:44:37 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: parts advice..... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where is Joe Walsh when we need him? His Maserati does 185. Scott "I can't complain but sometimes I still do" Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:15:35 -0800 (PST) >From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Steve Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] >Subject: Re: parts advice..... >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >--- Steve Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How does not having a license affect my ability to drive? > >Your words not ours... ;-) > >"I lost my license now I can't drive..." <snip> >-Carlos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:34:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: E-46 Modified Suspension/Alignment questions... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 2001 330Ci that came with the factory sport suspension. I put on the Koni system shocks and struts with Koni springs, this system has adjustable ride height using threaded adjusters. I initially lowered the front and rear 1". I think I will raise it, so that it will be about a 1/2" lower than stock to give me a little extra ground clearance. First question: Do the manufacturers of aftermarket springs drop the front more than the rear for looks only or are there other reasons they don't drop the front and rear equal amounts? Now for the alignment questions: What would be good alignment numbers for this car? I do four or five DE a year, but don't want to kill my tire life for a track only set-up? I saw in a recent Roundel that they did a suspension upgrade on an E-46, and to be able to get proper camber numbers they removed the (aluminum?) ball or nub at the top of the strut towers. Can I carefully drill these out from the top?--I have a M-3 strut brace on there now, so I'm not sure if this is possible. Any other tricks for getting the alignment correct front/rear? (like the "crash" bolts for the E-36). Thanks in advance for your help. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:46:21 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e46 oil light Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Same symptom exactly happened to someone here at work with an E46, 330. I checked the oil level it was way down. After she topped up the light went away. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:27:53 -0500 From: Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> heater core lines and fuel lines Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (hasn't shown up in 24 hours, so I'm sending again. apologies if it ends up being duplicate) I'm in the final stages of dropping a motor into my E36 and I've managed to misplace my notes on which lines go where... I was hoping for a sanity check before I get something misconnected. The vehicle is a US 1994 325is. 1) on the firewall, there are three connections for the heater core. is it correct that the one closest to the pax side of the car is the return (which hooks up to the big octopus return pipe) and the next two connect to the water valve which subsequently is hooked up to the water connection on the back of the head? 2) the fuel lines... there are two hard lines, one feed and one return. They're the same diameter. Is the one closer to the pax side the feed and the one closer to the driver's side the return? I can probably trace these or run the pump to test but if anyone knows offhand it would save me some time. Thanks for the advice. tom philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:49:31 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: BMW R&D Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our local CCA journal had an article regarding the following research being done by BMW: http://bmwheaven.bmwsport.net/content/view/65/3/ http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm?newsid=2051212.002/country/gcf Interesting when combined with the supercapacitor research also being conducted and which the Roundel has touched on at times: http://www.germancarfans.com/print.cfm/ID/2050919.006/lang/eng http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm?NewsID=2030818.002&bmw=1.html/country/gcf Good solid engineering. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:46:17 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apologies for beating a dead horse, but I'm hoping somebody can help me understand something. I had the bushing of a Meyle RSM push up and out of its housing (into the trunk) last weekend. Just replaced each with GC (and is this a nice part, should've bought these in the first place). All shock/RSM designs I've seen for this car hold the shaft in place (and keep it from pushing up through the bushing) with a washer that rests at the lip between the 10mm threaded and 11mm polished portions of the shaft (#6 and #7 in this diagram http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=33_0386&hg=33&fg=45). I realize there isn't much load here -- most of that is carried by the spring -- but still, if there's enough weight to have pushed the bushing out of a Meyle RSM, I can't see how the shaft doesn't push through too. Maybe I'm just a dope... but if somebody could help me understand this, I'd feel better. - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:45:30 -0500 From: Chris Eck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Speaking from experience, the absence of #6 in the diagram will cause the bushing to pop up and out of your fancy new RSM body in a matter of miles. If you're lucky, you'll have a friend in the passenger seat who is willing to play "human shock mount" until you get home. ;-) Chris Eck On 2/15/06, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apologies for beating a dead horse, but I'm hoping somebody can help me > understand something. > > I had the bushing of a Meyle RSM push up and out of its housing (into the > trunk) last weekend. Just replaced each with GC (and is this a nice part, > should've bought these in the first place). All shock/RSM designs I've seen > for this car hold the shaft in place (and keep it from pushing up through the > bushing) with a washer that rests at the lip between the 10mm threaded and > 11mm polished portions of the shaft (#6 and #7 in this diagram > http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=33_0386&hg=33&fg=45). > I realize there isn't much load here -- most of that is carried by the spring > -- but still, if there's enough weight to have pushed the bushing out of a > Meyle RSM, I can't see how the shaft doesn't push through too. Maybe I'm just > a dope... but if somebody could help me understand this, I'd feel better. > > - Kevin Jay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:27:00 -0800 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:46 AM 2/15/2006, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote: I guess I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Even the GCs should reuse those two parts. I know the RE ones do. >Apologies for beating a dead horse, but I'm hoping somebody can help me >understand something. > >I had the bushing of a Meyle RSM push up and out of its housing (into the >trunk) last weekend. Just replaced each with GC (and is this a nice part, >should've bought these in the first place). All shock/RSM designs I've seen >for this car hold the shaft in place (and keep it from pushing up through the >bushing) with a washer that rests at the lip between the 10mm threaded and >11mm polished portions of the shaft (#6 and #7 in this diagram >http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=33_0386&hg=33&fg=45). > > >I realize there isn't much load here -- most of that is carried by the spring >-- but still, if there's enough weight to have pushed the bushing out of a >Meyle RSM, I can't see how the shaft doesn't push through too. Maybe I'm just >a dope... but if somebody could help me understand this, I'd feel better. > >- Kevin Jay > '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too > '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:30:55 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:46 AM 2/15/2006, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote: > I guess I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Even the GCs > should reuse those two parts. I know the RE ones do. The GC ones come with their own two washers to be used top and bottom. I do however always use the Z3 reinforcement plate even underneath the half moon GC reinforcement. -Carlos 89 325i stock RSMs 88 325is E30 M3 RSMs 98 M3 GC RSMs w/Z3 plates __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:56:23 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Jay \(Mr.Fabulous\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shock compression loads can easily be higher than spring load. It is very hard to push an 11mm rod through a 10mm hole. Its much easier to push rubber through. Gary Derian > > Apologies for beating a dead horse, but I'm hoping somebody can help me > understand something. > > I had the bushing of a Meyle RSM push up and out of its housing (into the > trunk) last weekend. Just replaced each with GC (and is this a nice part, > should've bought these in the first place). All shock/RSM designs I've > seen > for this car hold the shaft in place (and keep it from pushing up through > the > bushing) with a washer that rests at the lip between the 10mm threaded and > 11mm polished portions of the shaft (#6 and #7 in this diagram > http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=33_0386&hg=33&fg=45). > I realize there isn't much load here -- most of that is carried by the > spring > -- but still, if there's enough weight to have pushed the bushing out of a > Meyle RSM, I can't see how the shaft doesn't push through too. Maybe I'm > just > a dope... but if somebody could help me understand this, I'd feel better. > > - Kevin Jay > '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too > '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:14:25 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Jay \(Mr.Fabulous\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> RSM and the shock shaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It isn't about the weight of the vehicle, it is about the force of the shock on the RSM (and shock tower) from the resistance in compression and rebound. Having played a human shock mount once, let me tell you, there is a fair bit of force that the RSM is subjected to in normal operating use. Meyle is junk, just say no to Meyle. Regards, Rich --- "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had the bushing of a Meyle RSM push up and out of its housing (into the > trunk) last weekend. Just replaced each with GC (and is this a nice part, > should've bought these in the first place). All shock/RSM designs I've seen > for this car hold the shaft in place (and keep it from pushing up through the > bushing) with a washer that rests at the lip between the 10mm threaded and > 11mm polished portions of the shaft (#6 and #7 in this diagram > http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=33_0386&hg=33&fg=45). > > I realize there isn't much load here -- most of that is carried by the spring > -- but still, if there's enough weight to have pushed the bushing out of a > Meyle RSM, I can't see how the shaft doesn't push through too. Maybe I'm just > a dope... but if somebody could help me understand this, I'd feel better. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:56:35 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: <E36> M3 bumper covers Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quick q: Do the original front and rear bumper covers have the car's VIN number on them as well? I am interested because the front cover on my car has some sort of dent or something in it that looks like it was partially filled with some sort of plastic filler, then painted over. Whatever it is, it's pretty crappy looking and I want to fix it, in addition to all the trillion and a half paint chips from road debris, but I'm just wondering about originality concerns with the covers. I'm doubting that such a component would be considered very valuable to originality, but I'm just wondering. Thanks all, Brian 95 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:46:18 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 bumper covers Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In a message dated 16.02.2006 07:24:59 Westeuropäische Normalzeit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do the original front and rear bumper covers have the car's VIN number on them as well? ...................... Hi I think since 1993 Model Year (in the US only) every major part of the car has the VIN stamped into it. ie: Doors, hood, trunk lid, fenders, quarter pannels, ect. I do not know if the bumpers were stamped as well. But there is one way to find out! ;) Btw.... there are also a few "Other" secret places that the VIN is tamped. One I know of is where the rear exhaust hanger mounts to the heatshield foil, near the bumper cover. These scret VIN spots are for the police and insurance companies to prevent fraud. bye David Jalali ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:22:15 +0100 (CET) From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: BMW UUC digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: speedos reading high.....=20 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 15.02.2006 02:19:39 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit,=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > David, modern BMW speedos are notorious for being optimistic. FWIW, my 93= > =20 > 325is is exactly 1mph high. My g/f's 97 328i is 5-6mph high. Interesting. *BMW NA* cars often have speedometers that read high. European BMWs generally have accurate speedometers, like the one in Normalzeit,[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 93==20 325is. Please change your email program to send "plain text". You guys are kind of hard to read. > Actually they make them that way on purpose!! There is this German law th= > at=20 > say the speedo can NOT display a slower speed than actual ie it has to re= > ad=20 > higher or perfectly the actual speed. Nope. That's an American rationalization of an American problem. German law, which is not the cause of the problem, allows accurate speedometers; in Germany, they generally are. > As for my local highway patrol... we have none! That is what $6 a gall= > on=20 > gas prices do. Its just too expensive to have a mass fleet of cars drivin= > g=20 > around. The cops only go out when there is an accident or on the rare cas= > e as an=20 > unmarked autobahn polizei car with hidden cameras to catch bad driving. B= > ut=20 > this is rare. If your friend gets a chance, he might drop by and chat with his local Autobahnpolizei. They are much more active than that. > The German Polizei couldn't care less how fast you drive. They are more=20 > concerned with more important things like tailgating and driving too fast= > for=20 > conditions and checking to see if your can has the right tires on them fo= > r=20 > summer/winter!! Just as it should be. ;)) =20 The German police certainly do care if you drive too fast, but you can drive faster than the limit if you know the rules. I hope your friend doesn't first discover this by having his license yanked for a month for driving 40 km/h (25 mph) over! -John '96 318is ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:18:48 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: German Police... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In a message dated 16.02.2006 12:22:30 Westeuropäische Normalzeit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your friend gets a chance, he might drop by and chat with his local Autobahnpolizei. They are much more active than that. The German police certainly do care if you drive too fast, but you can drive faster than the limit if you know the rules. I hope your friend doesn't first discover this by having his license yanked for a month for driving 40 km/h (25 mph) over! -John '96 318is ......................... Hello, John you misunderstood me. I LIVE in Germany. I also drive over here. ;) I do have the pleasure of having USA Nato tags as oppsoed to German plates. So.... speeding tickets aren't the same with my case. That said I have never recieved one. I have gotten Blitz'd (what the Germans call those photo radar) red flashes when I have had a rental car in the past. Nothing ever came of it. No bill in the mail - nothing. But I guess that would be different if I had a German or EU drivers license. My basic point was that the Polizei do not act like the "raod tax/toll" system in the USA. By issuing tickets to build up thier local police dept arsenal. You never see a German cop behind a tree or bush with his radar gun. You do not see them with on the road radar nailing speeders on the fly. No over here the cops much rather use those electronic boxes - to take you picture and send you a notice in the mail. Yes... there are a few Autobahn Polizei..... But we are only talking about a few cars here and there. It is not the same as in the US where a cop can get a better job thru writting more tickets per month. Over Here The German cops only have a few selected cars equipped with hidden cameras and speed monitors, ie vascar or laser pistols. In the US it seems like most every cop has some radar gun or vascar or laser pistol to do speed enforcement. ie collect money for thier local PD. For instance in the city I live in we have about 75K people. We have four camera cars(unmarked VW vans with photo radar and vascar) and about another ten marked cars I would guess. All those cars patrol a HUGE area!!!! Say about 100 square miles. I think those cop car numbers would be way higher in the USA. By atleast a factor of tweenty. Why is the US cop rational, that by enforcing the speed limit they in turn cut down on everyday small time crime. But over here the German cops are still able to cut down on crime by ONLY pulling over the cars they suspect of wrong doing. I will say the German cops need no reason to pull you over and it seems to me they DO do alot of ratial profiling to get thier bad guys. I know this from what I have seen with my own two eye and what I have seen on German Tv. When something bad happens here they just set up a road block and stop all the cars. Or just stop the ones they deen "interesting". It doesn't happen often but it DOES happen. Germans just do not enjoy the same personal fredoms, we Americans have, or take for granted. My understanding of the German speedo law is that no speedo may show a slower speed than the car is ACUTALLY TRAVELING. Hence the driver must know the car was speeding in the first place. While most speedo(called Tachos) over here do read fairly acurately.... some do read a little high. Gernerally I think they are more acurate at 50 kph and 100kph than on the rest of the scale,ie top end speed. take care David Jalali Bamberg, Germany. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
