The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 111 : "text" Format

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  Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
  Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
  Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
  Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
  Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
  Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
  BMW PDC (Park Distance Control)
  Shop in San Deigo.....
  Re: Shop in San Deigo.....
  <E30> Gas tank emptying
  Re: <E30> Gas tank emptying
  Re: <E30> Gas tank emptying
  <E36> Al Radiator
  Re: <E36> Al Radiator
  Re: <E36> Al Radiator

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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:13:56 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One reads about bullshit cases like this and can only wonder...... 
What would it take for the manufacturers to simply pull out of the state.

Imagine a pact between the "Big 3", or more, to pull out of the state of 
Washington.  Thousands unemployed. Citizens unable to purchase cheap 
cars. Lost taxes, wages, etc.

If only it could actually happen......

Brett Anderson
KMS



Clarence wrote:
> No BMW involved, but thought this would be of interest.  Two guys bought 
> a Viper in 2003.  The first diff went out 71 miles after the 500 mile 
> break in.  Four more diffs went out in the next 6 months.  Manufacturer 
> refused to pay for the 6th diff!  These guys won in court even though 
> they admitted running it at the dragstrip.  It would be interesting to 
> read the actual case.
> 
> http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=412192

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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:45:50 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That $385K doesn't make a wart on the ass of the pension and incentive 
packages for the management of the big 3 . . .

What kind of crap differential do they use in a Viper, anyway?

Ed

KMS- Brett Anderson wrote:

> One reads about bullshit cases like this and can only wonder...... What 
> would it take for the manufacturers to simply pull out of the state.

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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:56:40 -0700
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Car company must pay $385,000 for lemon
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Waukesha is in Wisconsin.  But the sentiment remains...

> Brett Anderson wrote:
> Imagine a pact between the "Big 3", or more, to pull out of the state of 
> Washington...


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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:20:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     In the late seventies a new GM shop manual for my first car cost 
$12. using the coupon that came in the owner's manual.
     If BMW parts and service info were available from the legitimate 
channels for a reasonable price then I would have bought my TIS/ ETK/ 
ETM/ etc. set through them.  Else I'm fine with my copied set.
     For a the cost of a new BMW now, the service info ought to be 
included, or made available free online, same as Microsoft and many 
computer industry companies do.  For advance info, do charge, as in 
Technet/ MSDN subscriptions.  For what a common consumer might want, it 
should be available free.
Barry

Bob Sutterfield wrote:

>Dave Meyer wrote:
>  
>
>>Are these products available for sale somewhere at a reasonable price - 
>>BMW dealer, Ebay, Central Letter Shop in Fairfield NJ?
>>Yuri Yulaev wrote:
>>    
>>
>>You can get the gray market CDs on ebay and such.
>>Note - they are basically "back up copies"...
>>I bought mine from a dude in UK at ebay.uk.
>>Ebay is really going after these sales, though,
>>Nothing gray about it:  Those are copyright violations.  Please respect the
>>rights of the owner, by using legitimate channels like the dealer, Central
>>Letter Shop, and Bentley.
>>    
>>

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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:50:46 -0700
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 12:20 AM 4/3/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>     In the late seventies a new GM shop manual for my first car 
> cost $12. using the coupon that came in the owner's manual.
>     If BMW parts and service info were available from the 
> legitimate channels for a reasonable price then I would have bought 
> my TIS/ ETK/ ETM/ etc. set through them.  Else I'm fine with my copied set.
>     For a the cost of a new BMW now, the service info ought to be 
> included, or made available free online, same as Microsoft and many 
> computer industry companies do.  For advance info, do charge, as in 
> Technet/ MSDN subscriptions.  For what a common consumer might 
> want, it should be available free.
>Barry

I agree that BMW holding back all of this information is a poor move 
on their part, and that I, too, would pay a reasonable cost for legit 
copies of TIS/ETK/WDS (nee ETM).  I do applaud them for the Mobile 
Traditions TIS CDs despite their technical problems (won't run on PCs 
with >512Mb RAM), and the EBA CD is available at the parts counter for <$10.

There IS www.BMWTIS.com available as a subscription service, and my 
understanding is that you can buy a cable to connect your PC to your 
car to do certain "programming" functions as well.  I've seen folks 
pull up wiring information up from it, so I assume it includes WDS 
information as well.  I can't vouch for how user-friendly it is, however.

 From my E46 experience, at least, Bentley manuals are at least as 
good, if not often better than TIS (which has a lot of 
box-with-special-procedure-number-that's-not-always-in-the-TIS 
stuff).  And I've even found realoem.com to be useful in a pinch.

And for those functions requiring access to a MoDiC/GT1, I hope 
BIM-COM will make it out of beta at some point after this loooong 
wait, and be at least as comprehensive and inexpensive as VAG-COM.



Kazuto Okayasu  Manager, Desktop Support Services
Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:22:52 -0700
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: TIS, ETM, ETK, KSD, etc for 99 M coupe?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Barry wrote:
> For a the cost of a new BMW now, the service info ought to be
> included, or made available free online...
> For what a common consumer might want, it should be available free.

I agree with your "ought"s and "should"s.  
But that's not what they chose to do.
The copyright holder gets to decide.
Eventually market forces may drive them differently.


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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:31:24 +0000
From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: BMW PDC (Park Distance Control)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Looking for PDC for my E34 touring (sedans have the same system and all 
parts are the same).  Would anyone have a set from a dead car (or a new BMW 
retrofit kit they haven't used) for sale?

Yes I am following ebay and am checking with some of the BMW recyclers that 
advertise in the Roundel.  Answer me directly.

There is a set for an E39 for sale on ebay.de (German site), auction number 
4627956842.


Gregory in Georgia



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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Shop in San Deigo.....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings everyone,

I need a rear bearing replaced and simply don’t have
the time to do it myself.  Can anyone here recommend a
decent shop in or near Mission Valley in San Diego? 
I’m pretty new to the area and don’t know of any shops
here.  Any tips or advice is greatly appreciated. 
TIA!


Manuel Paredes
95 325i 
L.A. BMWCCA

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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:11:22 -0700
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Shop in San Deigo.....
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 01:17 PM 4/3/2006, Mr wrote:

The best-known BMW shop in SD is probably La Jolla Independent.  The 
PO of my M6 had work done there.

>Greetings everyone,
>
>I need a rear bearing replaced and simply don't have
>the time to do it myself.  Can anyone here recommend a
>decent shop in or near Mission Valley in San Diego?
>I'm pretty new to the area and don't know of any shops
>here.  Any tips or advice is greatly appreciated.
>TIA!
>
>
>Manuel Paredes
>95 325i
>L.A. BMWCCA
>
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Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:39:20 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E30> Gas tank emptying
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


What's the best method for emptying the gas tank?
This is for the parts car and I want to be sure the fuel lines are empty
before pulling the motor.

Tanks all,
-Kevin



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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:19:22 -0400
From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> Gas tank emptying
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lots of track time?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Matt Murray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What's the best method for emptying the gas tank?
> This is for the parts car and I want to be sure the fuel lines are empty
> before pulling the motor.
> 
> Tanks all,
> -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:15:13 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> Gas tank emptying
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Last time I emptied a tank I disconnected the fuel line before the fuel
filter and applied 12 volts to the fuel pump until the tank was dry.  It was
an E36 but I think the same principle applies.

You'll still have some fuel in the fuel rail but it's not a lot.

Marco

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Subject: [UUC] <E30> Gas tank emptying



What's the best method for emptying the gas tank?
This is for the parts car and I want to be sure the fuel lines are empty
before pulling the motor.

Tanks all,
-Kevin



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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:47:02 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Al Radiator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Of the two (are there more?) choices for aluminum radiators which is the
preferred Zionsville or Fluidyne?
This would be for the E36, 328.


-Kevin



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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:37:46 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], uuc Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Al Radiator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Zionsville, in a heartbeat.

We install them all the time.  Perfect fit, as good as or better quality 
and far less expensive.

These units actually fit better than the factory radiators........


Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
(440) 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Of the two (are there more?) choices for aluminum radiators which is the
> preferred Zionsville or Fluidyne?
> This would be for the E36, 328.
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:04:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Al Radiator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am past 90,000 on my 318ti and know I am flurting with failure.  I have yet 
to find an AL radiator that fits the M44 ti, anybody know of any?  Can the 328 
rad be made to fit and work well?

I am planning on replacing rad, pump, thermostat and hoses...any specific 
suggestions on brands and sources will be appreciated.  Richmond can get plenty 
hot and I don't want a mess.

David in Richmond, VA



-----Original Message-----
>From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Apr 3, 2006 10:37 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], uuc Digest <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  <E36> Al Radiator
>
>Zionsville, in a heartbeat.
>
>We install them all the time.  Perfect fit, as good as or better quality 
>and far less expensive.
>
>These units actually fit better than the factory radiators........
>
>
>Brett Anderson
>KMS-Koala Motorsport
>www.bmwdiffs.com
>(440) 564 7574
>9988 Kinsman Rd
>Novelty, OH 44072
>(Near Cleveland)
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Of the two (are there more?) choices for aluminum radiators which is the
>> preferred Zionsville or Fluidyne?
>> This would be for the E36, 328.
>> 
>> 
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
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>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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