The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 67 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Alternator Cooling Duct filters E34 M5 Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? OT: Land Rover parts/forums/digests Re: OT: Land Rover parts/forums/digests Re: Alternator Ducting Filter Re: parts advice..... Re: parts advice.....
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:36:49 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Alternator Cooling Duct filters E34 M5 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, On my 750, the alternator cooling duct didn't have a filter but rather a screen to keep out stones and most larger debri. I've not heard of a filter which without a large negative pressure at the alternator might impede good flow and cooling. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bullet Performance: no 1 on 1 experience, but they broke off all the sealing tabs on my DME when the PO had a Dinan chip installed, then they just taped it all up with packing tape. (I know it was them because they wrote "Bullet Performace" in permanent marker on the top cover of the DME) Now when I change the chip, I have to hold it all together with tape too, blah. Cheap or crappy work like that just pisses me off, but I guess it's not such a huge thing. Just makes me feel like they don't take care not to break things on their customer's cars. Brian 95 M3 --- Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:20 AM 2/14/2006, Scott & Charlotte Miller > wrote: > > I can't personally vouch for their work, but many > locals, including > people I know, like Bullet Performance in Costa > Mesa. I do know > they're quote a busy shop, so sometimes it helps to > call ahead. > > >A friend's brother's friend's son has taken the > family 5 series > >(possibly an '89 E34, no details) to college with > him. They're > >looking for recommendations for an independent > service shop in the > >Irvine/Costa Mesa area. Please let me know if you > have suggestions. > > > >TIA, > > > >Scott Miller > >GGC BMW CCA > > > > > > > >Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services > Administrative Computing Services, University of > California, Irvine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:08:11 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> those tabs pretty much break off after a few times of prying them back to pull out the chip. I use red racers tape on my DME to hold the two halves together ;-) Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Ruiz Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:12 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Bullet Performance: no 1 on 1 experience, but they broke off all the sealing tabs on my DME when the PO had a Dinan chip installed, then they just taped it all up with packing tape. (I know it was them because they wrote "Bullet Performace" in permanent marker on the top cover of the DME) Now when I change the chip, I have to hold it all together with tape too, blah. Cheap or crappy work like that just pisses me off, but I guess it's not such a huge thing. Just makes me feel like they don't take care not to break things on their customer's cars. Brian 95 M3 --- Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:20 AM 2/14/2006, Scott & Charlotte Miller > wrote: > > I can't personally vouch for their work, but many > locals, including > people I know, like Bullet Performance in Costa > Mesa. I do know > they're quote a busy shop, so sometimes it helps to > call ahead. > > >A friend's brother's friend's son has taken the > family 5 series > >(possibly an '89 E34, no details) to college with > him. They're > >looking for recommendations for an independent > service shop in the > >Irvine/Costa Mesa area. Please let me know if you > have suggestions. > > > >TIA, > > > >Scott Miller > >GGC BMW CCA > > > > > > > >Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services > Administrative Computing Services, University of > California, Irvine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:38:42 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's good for a few horsepower I hear, more if it has the Type R logo on it somewhere... :-) Regards, Rich - more of a zip tie kind of guy. --- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > those tabs pretty much break off after a few times of prying them back to > pull out the chip. I use red racers tape on my DME to hold the two halves > together ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:44:13 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You do know that the tabs on the DME cover are nearly impossible to bend more than once without breaking right? As careful as I have been with mine, they want to break if they are flexed more than once. Regards, Rich --- Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bullet Performance: no 1 on 1 experience, but they > broke off all the sealing tabs on my DME when the PO > had a Dinan chip installed, then they just taped it > all up with packing tape. (I know it was them because > they wrote "Bullet Performace" in permanent marker on > the top cover of the DME) Now when I change the chip, > I have to hold it all together with tape too, blah. > Cheap or crappy work like that just pisses me off, but > I guess it's not such a huge thing. Just makes me > feel like they don't take care not to break things on > their customer's cars. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Rich wrote: > You do know that the tabs on the DME cover are > nearly impossible to bend more than once without > breaking right? > > As careful as I have been with mine, they want to > break if they are flexed more than once. Well, I never got the chance to experience that myself, so I don't *know* that per se, but I guess it's not too hard to realize that thin aluminum tabs would break fairly easily. :) Like I said, I have no 1 on 1 experience, but I just wanted to note what I said in case it was indicative of something to anybody else as well. Brian 95 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:08:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, February 14, 2006 11:12 am, Brian Ruiz said: > I guess it's not such a huge thing. Especially since repeated openings of the DME will cause the tabs to break off, just like wiggling a paper clip back-n-forth. > Just makes me > feel like they don't take care not to break things on > their customer's cars. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't care and *tried* to break it. Sometime sh*t happens. Not really a critical part of the car, IMO. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - DME opened only once 1993 325is #44 JP - DME opened several times, held closed with tabs AND tape :-) P.S. The Bullet guys are one of several groups of folks who have provided "at track" support for me and many West Coast Club Racers. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:31:23 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian, It would not have mattered where the PO took it, after a few times they break off. Also you dont know how many times the PO might have changed chips etc. Dont know the shop but dont blame them on that one. I believe BMW designed the ECU like that for a reason. Thats the first thing they checked on both of M3's when doing warranty work. Thanks to a local dealer here in Atlanta, they also voided my warranty for a brief period because of those broken tabs. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bmwuucdigest- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ruiz> > Bullet Performance: no 1 on 1 experience, but they > broke off all the sealing tabs on my DME when the PO > had a Dinan chip installed, then they just taped it > all up with packing tape. > Cheap or crappy work like that just pisses me off, but > I guess it's not such a huge thing. Just makes me > feel like they don't take care not to break things on > their customer's cars. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: 2/13/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:14:28 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mine have been bent once, to the open position where they remained through many chip changes. Gary Derian > Bullet Performance: no 1 on 1 experience, but they > broke off all the sealing tabs on my DME when the PO > had a Dinan chip installed, then they just taped it > all up with packing tape. (I know it was them because > they wrote "Bullet Performace" in permanent marker on > the top cover of the DME) Now when I change the chip, > I have to hold it all together with tape too, blah. > Cheap or crappy work like that just pisses me off, but > I guess it's not such a huge thing. Just makes me > feel like they don't take care not to break things on > their customer's cars. > > Brian > 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:56:05 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW Independent in Irvine/Costa Mesa? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmmm, so your tabs serve the same utility as ones that have broken off... :-) Regards, Rich --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine have been bent once, to the open position where they remained through > many chip changes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:06:19 -0600 From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: OT: Land Rover parts/forums/digests Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiance just got a Disco XD, and I am trying to prepare myself for upcoming events with places to buy parts and get technical advice/help. Anyone here have any experience with places in the US for that, or places online with manuals and tech support? Any help always appreciated! Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:31:02 -0500 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT: Land Rover parts/forums/digests Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a list who I cannot find at this second. Just remember to load up the back of the XD with buckets of cash. They make Porsche and BMW parts seem cheap ($48 flipping dollars for wiper blades five years ago). Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fiance just got a Disco XD, and I am trying to prepare myself for > upcoming events with places to buy parts and get technical advice/help. > > Anyone here have any experience with places in the US for that, or places > online with manuals and tech support? > > > Any help always appreciated! > > Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:33:34 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kjk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Alternator Ducting Filter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The M5 scoop already has a dirt trap built-in. Not a filter but the air flow takes a turn and the dirt and water goes straight. Its not perfect obviously as I've cleaned leaves out of the back of my alternator. Say, perhaps they acted as a filter. I'd think one needs more cooling when stuck in traffic than screaming down the autobahn. Gary Derian > Brett Anderson wrote: > > "I've never seen or heard of such an animal. Most of > the failures I see are from crud blocking the duct. > In most cases, you'd actually be better off removing > the duct. It's there to cool the alternator during > extended 5K rpm runs down the Autobahn." > > I can see your point. With the part of the housing > just pointing straight down maybe there would be less > of a chance of stuff getting in there vs. the ram air > effect of factory ducting. However, I would at least > put some kind of screen over the opening. In fact, I > may just do that at the front opening to prevent stuff > from getting in there. > > Kevin Kelly > '91 M5 (240k, 80k on a rebuild) > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:41:16 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: parts advice..... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ATE rotors are known to be slightly warped right out of the box, before you even mount them on the car. I recommend Balo rotors if you can find them - never any issues with Balo. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:41:15 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: parts advice..... >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <snip> > >One Question I have is: Does the brakes rotors seem to warp out after hard >autobahn use. Seems like every year I need to replace the rotors do to warping >issues. The brake rotors is one thing I have bought aftermarket and I am >wondering if the factory parts might be better option. Its just that the BMW dealer >wants $130 per rotor while as my local OEM supplier wants $40 each for top >names like: Lucas, ATE, or Brembo. So far I have tried Lukas and ATE, both seem >to have the warping issues. Any thought? At first I thought maybe it was my >fualt since I didn't use a torque wrench when install the road wheels, but now >I have/use one. I just think it is a wear part. I have always heard the >brakes warp out on Bmws. > >Thanks all for the Tips. > >David Jalali 98 323i e36 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:14:04 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: parts advice..... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Guys, Well.... I have to say a set of rotors seem to last me about 28K kilometers. The first set was Lucas rotors and pads. The place where I bought them was nice enough to warranty them for free. But I still had to pay for new pads. No big deal. On the second set I went with ATE pads and rotors. I my opion the Lucas parts were better made I feel. But the ATE rotors and pads warpped on me after about 8K Kms. I am an agressve driver buy not THAT hard of brakes. Bot times I had plenty of pad material left on the backing plates. I do know how to bed brake pads in.... as with my two previous cars both 944 Turbos. The problem I am having is with brake pedal (and steering) vibration after a while of driving with the new brakes. 10K of Kms. Once the vibration starts it is there for good. The rotor surface looks good but feels slight warped to my fingers. Note - my front suspension is all new and tight so its not the control arm rear bushings. When I talked to my local Bmw dealer they said that is typical of non-Bmw parts. They said that is why the ATE/Lucas/Brembos cost 30 euros each while the Bmw dealer parts cost 93 euros each!!! At first I thought this was BS but now I am not so sure. They have been alot of help to me in thepast and I trust thier comments. One thing you have to know is driving over here is not like US driving. YOu use the brakes HARD when your getting into the top end of the car. YOu have to think of it as almost the same type of wear and tear as one gets when doing a DE event in the USA. Try doing 140mph and then some guy(in a 55PS VW Polo) pulls out infront of you trying toout drag that 56 PS Fiat!!! That is not fun. And its hard on the brakes. One can plan ahead somewhat.... but its a roller-coaster type event driving at high speed on the Autobahn. Topend out, then full braking, then back up to speed. The only thing that determines your pace is your wallet (gas costs $6 a gallon)and the driving conditions. Typically I can cruise the autobahn between 160kph and 190 kph and still get about 25mpg (or about 10Liters per 100Kph) average. Thats not bad. But if I drive slow (under 70MPH) I can get about 30mpg!!!. Btw the fastest I have seen on my 170 PS 323i (1997 model, e36) 5sp is just a tick above 243Kph. The cars registration papers says the car is only good for 227 kph. My only mods are a slightly lower ride height(about two inches from say a US ride height) and I knocked the baffle/muffler out of the airbox intake. Thanks for all the input. David ............................ In a message dated 14.02.2006 15:16:33 Westeuropäische Normalzeit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dennis' link to the page about "warping" brakes is a good reference. it's possible to get rotors which are slightly out of round or balance which can get worse over time, probably excerbated by the pad mat'l transfer issue described in the article. I'd try to source Balo rotors, which I don't recall hearing people having had issues with. I've heard of bad sets of ATE & Brembo rotors. you may actually be killing them with repeated stops from high speed on the autobahn as well, esp if you have brakes pads which are able to get a lot of heat into them. race-track specific brake pads are incredible when they're hot, but you can end up with stress cracks & other issues with the rotors if they're not large enough/cooled enough. don't think you're using track pads on a street car tho, right ? ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
