The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 100 : "text" Format

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  Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  Re: Power steering pump
  [bmw] Power steering pump
  Oil Changes
  Re: Oil Changes
  Re: Oil Changes
  Re: Oil Changes
  Re: Oil Changes
  Re: Oil Changes

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:28:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings all,

I was wondering how involved it is to change the power
steering pump on a 95 325i.  I do have a Bentley but
it is in Orange county and I am in San Diego for the
week.  Is this a relatively easy job or do I need any
special tools or lift to do this?  I’m a back yard
wrench and only have jack stands and the basic tools. 
Would there be anything else I should change while I’m
in the area?  I’ll be changing my serpentine just as
preventive measures.  Any advice is greatly
appreciated!  TIA!

Manuel Paredes
95 325i 230K!!!!
L.A. BMWCCA


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:30:02 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Clean the crap out of the system, a failed pump usually fills the rack with 
trash.
Gary Derian

> Greetings all,
>
> I was wondering how involved it is to change the power
> steering pump on a 95 325i.  I do have a Bentley but
> it is in Orange county and I am in San Diego for the
> week.  Is this a relatively easy job or do I need any
> special tools or lift to do this?  I'm a back yard
> wrench and only have jack stands and the basic tools.
> Would there be anything else I should change while I'm
> in the area?  I'll be changing my serpentine just as
> preventive measures.  Any advice is greatly
> appreciated!  TIA!
>
> Manuel Paredes
> 95 325i 230K!!!!
> L.A. BMWCCA


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:05:04 -0500
From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

can't help with the pump, but you might as well change the PS reservoir while 
you have the systems open.  Also check all pulleys while you have the main belt 
off.

Good luck.  Or you could just drive fast on the way home to keep the steering 
light enough 8^ D

Marc Plante
1993 325i 230k SOLD
1997 M3/4 69k
Vienna, VA


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
> Subject: [UUC]  Power steering pump
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:28:31 -0800 (PST)
> 
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> I was wondering how involved it is to change the power
> steering pump on a 95 325i.  I do have a Bentley but
> it is in Orange county and I am in San Diego for the
> week.  Is this a relatively easy job or do I need any
> special tools or lift to do this?  I’m a back yard
> wrench and only have jack stands and the basic tools.
> Would there be anything else I should change while I’m
> in the area?  I’ll be changing my serpentine just as
> preventive measures.  Any advice is greatly
> appreciated!  TIA!
> 
> Manuel Paredes
> 95 325i 230K!!!!
> L.A. BMWCCA
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:35:38 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Gang,

I would also replace the PS resivoir since there is a built-in filter inside 
of it. 

And while we are on the subject....   what kind of fluid should you use in 
the PS system?  Simple ATF Dextron-III (3).  Or does Bmw use something a little 
more exotic? 

bye
David
97 323i e36

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:50:55 -0500
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Don't forget to file the flash off the ends of the nipples of your new resevior 
if you get one (to keep it from leaking...)

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi sport "Daisy"


> I would also replace the PS resivoir since there is a built-in filter inside 
> of it. 
> 
> And while we are on the subject....   what kind of fluid should you use in 
> the PS system?  Simple ATF Dextron-III (3).  Or does Bmw use something a 
> little more exotic? 



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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:27 -0800
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 02:35 PM 3/20/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi Gang,
>
>I would also replace the PS resivoir since there is a built-in filter inside
>of it.
>
>And while we are on the subject....   what kind of fluid should you use in
>the PS system?  Simple ATF Dextron-III (3).  Or does Bmw use 
>something a little
>more exotic?

I believe this varies between Dexron II/III and one of the Pentosin 
formulations depending on year/model.  Both of mine happen to use ATF.



Kazuto Okayasu  Manager, Desktop Support Services
Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, March 20, 2006 2:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> And while we are on the subject....   what kind of fluid should you use in
> the PS system?  Simple ATF Dextron-III (3).  Or does Bmw use something a
> little
> more exotic?

Simple ATF (should be mentioned in your owner's manual :-)).

Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:51:16 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: [bmw] Power steering pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, March 20, 2006 10:29 am, bmw-digest said:
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:28:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [bmw] Power steering pump
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I was wondering how involved it is to change the power
> steering pump on a 95 325i.  I do have a Bentley but
> it is in Orange county and I am in San Diego for the
> week.  Is this a relatively easy job or do I need any
> special tools or lift to do this?  Im a back yard
> wrench and only have jack stands and the basic tools.
> Would there be anything else I should change while Im
> in the area?  Ill be changing my serpentine just as
> preventive measures.  Any advice is greatly
> appreciated!  TIA!

It's fairly straight-forward, I just did this on the '98 M3.

Jack stands for the front of the car are fine, no lift needed. I found
that disconnecting the sway bar brackets from the front subframe made
access a bit easier.

Disconnect both hoses from the pump and let the fluid drain. There's 2
bolts  for the pump at the front and a mounting bracket at the rear of the
pump. If you are planning on re-using the pulley, loosen it's bolts BEFORE
removing the belt - the tension of the belt will help hold everything in
place making it easier to loosen the pulley bolts.

Get new crush washers for the banjo bolts for the hoses into the pump (2
per bolt).

Other than that, it's just a messy job :-)

Good luck,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:51:16 -0600
From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW" <[email protected]>
Subject: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil changed? I have in the 
past, or is it ok to go to one of those places that do the point checking? I 
just wanted to run in, and run out. The guy that works on my car doesn't 
change oil. Thanks in advance.



Best Regards,
    Celisa
  '99 328is 


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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Celisa,

There will be several contrasting opinions about this,
but I would probably say that it is okay, AS LONG AS A
FEW KEY POINTS ARE VERIFIED:

1) What sort of filter does your intended quick lube
shop use?  Is it a generic one or a factory/OEM brand?
 Most of the people here on the list would probably
tend to lean toward the OEM Mahle brand of oil
filters.  See if they can get one if they don't use
the car's OEM filter brand, or buy one yourself and
bring it to them to use.

2) What sort of selection of oils do they have/use?
Do they only have all standard oil or a choice of
regular and synthetic?

3) What type (regular or synthetic) of oil and what
weight oil is your car currently using?  How can you
ensure that they use the same?

4) Probably most important: what liability do they
carry in the event they make a mistake?  I have heard
a few horror stories about the quick lube shops, and
not just second hand.  A coworker of mine had the oil
changed in his 2003 Honda Accord about 4 or 5 months
ago, and the lube shop must have not screwed the oil
filter on tight enough, as he came out the next day to
come in to the office and found a puddle of oil under
his car.  If he was none the wiser, he could have done
serious damage to his car, and possibly been out for a
new engine.  Will the lube shop cover repairs to that
extent for that sort of thing?

Granted that is an extreme case, but obviously, you
want to be sure you go to a reputable and quality
shop.  Determining what is reputable is pretty much up
to you.  Generally speaking, although there will be
many exceptions, a well known lube shop like Jiffy
Lube will probably do a good job, but that would most
likely vary from location to location.  See if you can
find information from local enthusiasts about quality
of lube shops in the area.

HTH,
Brian
95 M3


--- Celisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil
> changed? I have in the 
> past, or is it ok to go to one of those places that
> do the point checking? I 
> just wanted to run in, and run out. The guy that
> works on my car doesn't 
> change oil. Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
>     Celisa
>   '99 328is

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:24:33 -0800
From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Celisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Celisa,

Many quick-lube places offer name brand synthetics at an additional  
charge.  If the thought of going to the dealer for an oil change is  
not your first choice, and you're concerned about using a national  
chain like Jiffy Lube, I would try to locate a reputable independent  
shop and schedule an appointment to have the service done while you  
wait.  I did that recently with a shop close to my house (Valley  
Motorwerks in Rancho Cordova, CA).  I scheduled it for first thing in  
the morning and I was out in less than 30 minutes.

Good Luck!

Sincerely,

Mark Gold
Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On 20-Mar-06, at 3:48 PM, Brian Ruiz wrote:

> Celisa,
>
> There will be several contrasting opinions about this,
> but I would probably say that it is okay, AS LONG AS A
> FEW KEY POINTS ARE VERIFIED:
>
> 1) What sort of filter does your intended quick lube
> shop use?  Is it a generic one or a factory/OEM brand?
>  Most of the people here on the list would probably
> tend to lean toward the OEM Mahle brand of oil
> filters.  See if they can get one if they don't use
> the car's OEM filter brand, or buy one yourself and
> bring it to them to use.
>
> 2) What sort of selection of oils do they have/use?
> Do they only have all standard oil or a choice of
> regular and synthetic?
>
> 3) What type (regular or synthetic) of oil and what
> weight oil is your car currently using?  How can you
> ensure that they use the same?
>
> 4) Probably most important: what liability do they
> carry in the event they make a mistake?  I have heard
> a few horror stories about the quick lube shops, and
> not just second hand.  A coworker of mine had the oil
> changed in his 2003 Honda Accord about 4 or 5 months
> ago, and the lube shop must have not screwed the oil
> filter on tight enough, as he came out the next day to
> come in to the office and found a puddle of oil under
> his car.  If he was none the wiser, he could have done
> serious damage to his car, and possibly been out for a
> new engine.  Will the lube shop cover repairs to that
> extent for that sort of thing?
>
> Granted that is an extreme case, but obviously, you
> want to be sure you go to a reputable and quality
> shop.  Determining what is reputable is pretty much up
> to you.  Generally speaking, although there will be
> many exceptions, a well known lube shop like Jiffy
> Lube will probably do a good job, but that would most
> likely vary from location to location.  See if you can
> find information from local enthusiasts about quality
> of lube shops in the area.
>
> HTH,
> Brian
> 95 M3
>
>
> --- Celisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil
>> changed? I have in the
>> past, or is it ok to go to one of those places that
>> do the point checking? I
>> just wanted to run in, and run out. The guy that
>> works on my car doesn't
>> change oil. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>     Celisa
>>   '99 328is
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:10:40 -0600
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Brian Ruiz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



An often overlooked place to get oil changed is your local Walmart (go
ahead and boo now ..then keep reading !) .
 I can buy my 5 qt containers of Mobil 1 in-store  for under $25, carry
my factory filter with it out the side door of Walmart into the
auto-service area where one of the three women out there will install it
and dispose of the old oil properly. They have two or three 'levels' of
oil change service ..the highest of which is about $29.00 including
their oil and filter and them inspecting all your fluid levels, hoses
and belts etc  . Taking your own stuff in takes around $10 off  and as
the workers know you care enough to bring a decent filter they put a
little extra vigilance into their inspections .

There's usually someone on Ebay selling groups of factory OEM filters
(search your model  number and the word filter) ...MANN, Mahle,
Purolator ...so if you intend to keep the car through a period where
you'll use them all (they tend  to come in groups of 6 or 12 ) you can
get them delivered to your door ...then do the Walmart waltz ... 

PS You should see those same ladies doing tire mounts ....dont
armwrestle any of 'em !! 

This works here in south Tenn , your Walmart manager may have different
rules and profit motives.. 

Bill Proud.36yrs messing with BMWs 




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:49 PM
To: UUC Digest
Subject: Re: [UUC] Oil Changes


Celisa,

There will be several contrasting opinions about this,
but I would probably say that it is okay, AS LONG AS A
FEW KEY POINTS ARE VERIFIED:

1) What sort of filter does your intended quick lube
shop use?  Is it a generic one or a factory/OEM brand?
 Most of the people here on the list would probably
tend to lean toward the OEM Mahle brand of oil
filters.  See if they can get one if they don't use
the car's OEM filter brand, or buy one yourself and
bring it to them to use.

2) What sort of selection of oils do they have/use?
Do they only have all standard oil or a choice of
regular and synthetic?

3) What type (regular or synthetic) of oil and what
weight oil is your car currently using?  How can you
ensure that they use the same?

4) Probably most important: what liability do they
carry in the event they make a mistake?  I have heard
a few horror stories about the quick lube shops, and
not just second hand.  A coworker of mine had the oil
changed in his 2003 Honda Accord about 4 or 5 months
ago, and the lube shop must have not screwed the oil
filter on tight enough, as he came out the next day to
come in to the office and found a puddle of oil under
his car.  If he was none the wiser, he could have done
serious damage to his car, and possibly been out for a
new engine.  Will the lube shop cover repairs to that
extent for that sort of thing?

Granted that is an extreme case, but obviously, you
want to be sure you go to a reputable and quality
shop.  Determining what is reputable is pretty much up
to you.  Generally speaking, although there will be
many exceptions, a well known lube shop like Jiffy
Lube will probably do a good job, but that would most
likely vary from location to location.  See if you can
find information from local enthusiasts about quality
of lube shops in the area.

HTH,
Brian
95 M3


--- Celisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil
> changed? I have in the
> past, or is it ok to go to one of those places that
> do the point checking? I 
> just wanted to run in, and run out. The guy that
> works on my car doesn't 
> change oil. Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
>     Celisa
>   '99 328is

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:00:19 -0800
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Celisa wrote:
> Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil changed?

No.

> or is it ok to go to one of those places that do the point checking?
> I just wanted to run in, and run out.

You mean a quicky lube or jiffy lube type place?  You're better off avoiding
that sort.

> The guy that works on my car doesn't change oil.

Check your chapter's newsletter, it's chock full of ads for independent BMW
specialist shops offering services like this.  They might bill themselves as
a race shop but their bread and butter is mundane maintenance service.  When
you make the appointment, thank them for supporting BMW CCA with their ad,
and inquire whether they offer a member discount.  Most do.
--
Bob Sutterfield
'86 E30 325e  bronzitbeige-met
'91 E30 318iS alpinweiß
'83 E21 320i  opalgrün-met (RIP, parting out)
'93 T4 EV MV Weekender Arktisches Weiß
BMWCCA #169277 GGC/RMC



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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:35:25 -0500
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oil Changes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Or check the numerous replies people have sent you over the last couple
years when you asked about a independent shop.  I am sure one of them does
oil changes.   

This is what the 3rd or 4th time you have asked in 3-4 years?   

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bmwuucdigest-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sutterfield
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Oil Changes
> 
> Celisa wrote:
> > Is it necessary to go to the dealer to get your oil changed?
> 
> No.
> 
> > or is it ok to go to one of those places that do the point checking?
> > I just wanted to run in, and run out.
> 
> You mean a quicky lube or jiffy lube type place?  You're better off
> avoiding
> that sort.
> 
> > The guy that works on my car doesn't change oil.
> 
> Check your chapter's newsletter, it's chock full of ads for independent
> BMW
> specialist shops offering services like this.  They might bill themselves
> as
> a race shop but their bread and butter is mundane maintenance service.
> When
> you make the appointment, thank them for supporting BMW CCA with their ad,
> and inquire whether they offer a member discount.  Most do.
> --
> Bob Sutterfield
> '86 E30 325e  bronzitbeige-met
> '91 E30 318iS alpinweiß
> '83 E21 320i  opalgrün-met (RIP, parting out)
> '93 T4 EV MV Weekender Arktisches Weiß
> BMWCCA #169277 GGC/RMC
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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