The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 97 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System. Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Re: Bright Computer Lights - e34 Re: Tires for One Lap of America Re: Tires for One Lap of America Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System. New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Re: New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Re: New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:55:31 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did you bed them in? Gary Derian > Don't know about Akebono pads but I can tell you never use Mintex Redbox > for any high heat applications. I was "advised" to toss a set in my track > box as backup pads for a lapping day. Oi...not a good decision on my > part. Resins failed under the heat and the material chunked off. > > BTW, EBC Redstuff did the same. > > Maybe it's something to do with red pads? hmmmm > > Jeff > 90 535i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:33:11 -0800 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I recall the answer being yes (normally always bed in pads) but can't guarantee it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] <misc> Mintex red box dust? > Did you bed them in? > Gary Derian > >> Don't know about Akebono pads but I can tell you never use Mintex Redbox >> for any high heat applications. I was "advised" to toss a set in my >> track box as backup pads for a lapping day. Oi...not a good decision on >> my part. Resins failed under the heat and the material chunked off. >> >> BTW, EBC Redstuff did the same. >> >> Maybe it's something to do with red pads? hmmmm >> >> Jeff >> 90 535i > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:42:28 -0800 From: Jim Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had the system from Tire Rack installed on my M Coupe. I found the pressure/temperature reliability to be poor, I had several low pressure alarms when the pressures were fine. I really dislike warning systems that give false alarms, especially when they are loud and distracting. The second problem is that when you change tires, the sensors stick out enough so that they inevitably break. I've had them broken at two different shops, despite telling them to be careful. I thought that a valve stem based solution would be a better way to go, but after hearing your experience I guess not. Jim Bill Graves wrote: > Neil - > > This may be too late, but I can offer some (unfortunately, negative) > buying information. I put an Intellivalve system in my E46 M3 in the > summer of 2004. This one has the senders in the valve stems and comes > complete with pressure and temperature monitoring/alarms on the > digital readout. The original unit never functioned well. One wheel > would take 10 minutes or more to register - and then wouldn't always > do it. You have to send all four sensors back when this happens, so > that was 4 extra tire removals/reinstalls (they did NOT offer to > reimburse me for them but they did readily exchange the defective > unit). The next set worked well. Good information that seemed to > match various gauges and the temps seemed in line too. Quite > fascinating to watch pressures vary with temps. > Unfortunately one wheel went dead after about a year. (I assume from > a dead battery, but...) Not being willing to take all 4 tires off > again I left it alone. Then this winter the fronts (almost > exclusively) would lose pressure rapidly at 60+mph in sub-freezing > temps before the tires warmed up. As soon as the tire temp hit the > 50s (or so - I can't actually tell you for sure ) all would be fine > and they would hold any pressure with no problem. The system was > good in that it told me about these leaks very quickly so there was > time to react! Unfortunately the system appears to have been the > problem. Exhausting all other options I finally pulled the two fronts > out (more $$$) and then when the rears had to be replaced pulled those > two senders too and have had no more leaking troubles since. > > I know that Tire Rack sells one that has the sender mounted to the > inside of the wheel (so you don't have to worry about its impact on > your valve stems), but I have no experience with it and you have to > pay extra for a digital readout. IF I were to do this again I > certainly would NOT buy the Intellivalve system again. As always, > your mileage may vary. It is definitely recommended for folks who are > prone to tire problems or who do not check their tires regularly or > who are information junkies. > > As always, YMMV and this is a survey sample of 1! > > - Bill > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:46:59 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been toying around with putting these in the racecar. I like the formfactor. http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=354/cat egory_id=251/home_id=59/mode=prod/prd354.htm anyone heard of them? Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Patterson Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire Pressure Monitoring System. I had the system from Tire Rack installed on my M Coupe. I found the pressure/temperature reliability to be poor, I had several low pressure alarms when the pressures were fine. I really dislike warning systems that give false alarms, especially when they are loud and distracting. The second problem is that when you change tires, the sensors stick out enough so that they inevitably break. I've had them broken at two different shops, despite telling them to be careful. I thought that a valve stem based solution would be a better way to go, but after hearing your experience I guess not. Jim Bill Graves wrote: > Neil - > > This may be too late, but I can offer some (unfortunately, negative) > buying information. I put an Intellivalve system in my E46 M3 in the > summer of 2004. This one has the senders in the valve stems and comes > complete with pressure and temperature monitoring/alarms on the > digital readout. The original unit never functioned well. One wheel > would take 10 minutes or more to register - and then wouldn't always > do it. You have to send all four sensors back when this happens, so > that was 4 extra tire removals/reinstalls (they did NOT offer to > reimburse me for them but they did readily exchange the defective > unit). The next set worked well. Good information that seemed to > match various gauges and the temps seemed in line too. Quite > fascinating to watch pressures vary with temps. > Unfortunately one wheel went dead after about a year. (I assume from > a dead battery, but...) Not being willing to take all 4 tires off > again I left it alone. Then this winter the fronts (almost > exclusively) would lose pressure rapidly at 60+mph in sub-freezing > temps before the tires warmed up. As soon as the tire temp hit the > 50s (or so - I can't actually tell you for sure ) all would be fine > and they would hold any pressure with no problem. The system was > good in that it told me about these leaks very quickly so there was > time to react! Unfortunately the system appears to have been the > problem. Exhausting all other options I finally pulled the two fronts > out (more $$$) and then when the rears had to be replaced pulled those > two senders too and have had no more leaking troubles since. > > I know that Tire Rack sells one that has the sender mounted to the > inside of the wheel (so you don't have to worry about its impact on > your valve stems), but I have no experience with it and you have to > pay extra for a digital readout. IF I were to do this again I > certainly would NOT buy the Intellivalve system again. As always, > your mileage may vary. It is definitely recommended for folks who are > prone to tire problems or who do not check their tires regularly or > who are information junkies. > > As always, YMMV and this is a survey sample of 1! > > - Bill > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:50:37 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mar 16, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Marco Romani wrote: > I've been toying around with putting these in the racecar. I like the > formfactor. > > http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/ > product_id=354/cat > egory_id=251/home_id=59/mode=prod/prd354.htm > > anyone heard of them? 4 vehicle tires plus 2 or 4 trailer tires? Hell, I want this for the truck and trailer. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:45:43 -0500 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> what experience do people have with the factory BMW TPMS systems ? I have a bunch of the parts which I've picked up randomly here & there but will have to get the antennas & some sort of interface to read the outputs from the wheel sensors I guess. the sensors are pretty robust looking as long as you don't get medieval when you're mounting tires. I know they've been putting various valve-based systems onto lots of cars lately, so the tire shops should be experienced with them by this point. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:08:21 +0100 (CET) From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dinty44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Bright Computer Lights - e34 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, dinty44 wrote: > Dealer computer system shows the wrong bulb for the application > (high wattage) so it's MUCH brighter.... [They] have a light green > plastic base and are about $5.00ea.... A light green base, you say? I believe those would be 2W units if they are like the small, Osram bulb I am staring at with a plastic, hexagonal base. I had been looking all over for those bulbs for an application and eventually found some a block away at the local Audi/VW dealer. The ones I bought were significantly less expensivie, however, so I may have gotten something else. Yow. I may have found your bulb in the ETK for backlighting an E34 analog clock. Would 62 11 1 375 774 be the part number of the bright bulb that is going back? -John '96 318is ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:57:52 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tires for One Lap of America Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary and other tirexperts - Woody Hair and I preparing my car for 4th One Lap and rules have been changed to allow us to run last year's tires (Michelin Pilot Sport 2s). I can imagine that they'll be quicker since approx. 1/2 tread worn off so there will be much less squirm. On other hand, they are one year old. Any advice/comment re: trade-offs between tread depth and age of rubber? TIA. Neil Simon 99 M Coupe DC tags MDORPHN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:35:30 -0500 From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tires for One Lap of America Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If the tires have been stored in bags as opposed to on the car,they may still have the softness you want for high speed handling.If left on the street,they will handle better with less tread,but will be definitely harder than when new.It's a trade-off you will have to decide on,as opposed to new rubber. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] Tires for One Lap of America >Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:57:52 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from host.bard.net ([208.186.130.196]) by >bay0-mc4-f15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, >17 Mar 2006 06:04:07 -0800 >Received: from uucdigest.com (host.bard.net [127.0.0.1])by host.bard.net >(8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k2HE7P09014383;Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:07:26 >-0800 >Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35])by >host.bard.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2HE6q09014261for ><[email protected]>; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:06:53 -0800 >Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) >id c.2e9.3721345 (15889) for <[email protected]>; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 >08:57:55 -0500 (EST) >Received: from aol.com (mow-m01.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.129]) by >air-id08.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID84-3e11441ac06228c; Fri, 17 >Mar 2006 08:57:55 -0500 >X-Message-Info: EoYTbT2lH2P4dobeOC/CzoS7tv2y4yUTpTlqTlDaxfk= >X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 >X-AOL-IP: 207.7.223.154 >X-AOL-Language: english >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 >(host.bard.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:07:28 -0800 (PST) >X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 >(host.bard.net [208.186.130.196]); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:06:54 -0800 (PST) >Precedence: bulk >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2006 14:04:07.0799 (UTC) >FILETIME=[A8555070:01C649CB] > >Gary and other tirexperts - > >Woody Hair and I preparing my car for 4th One Lap and rules have been >changed to allow us to run last year's tires (Michelin Pilot Sport 2s). > >I can imagine that they'll be quicker since approx. 1/2 tread worn off so >there will be much less squirm. On other hand, they are one year old. > >Any advice/comment re: trade-offs between tread depth and age of rubber? >TIA. > >Neil Simon >99 M Coupe >DC tags MDORPHN >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:34:48 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <misc> Mintex red box dust? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:23:16PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That is what I bought the Akebono pads for. Ask me after March 26 and I'll > let you know how they were for auto-X. This assumes that our 1st course > design of the year has one or two corners that require hard braking, > otherwise I'll have no clue. At least in the GGC autocrosses, my brakes never got hot. There just isn't enough time or speed. I ran PBR deluxes for years and still managed to place well in my class. (Now that I live in MI, see you at O-fest!) > Akebono has no application for the rear of an E30 318/325. I plan to > continue running the Axxis Ultimates in back for now, or maybe I'll throw > my R4S's on there if time permits. If you're patient with a bench grinder, E36 rear pads can be massaged into E30 rear pad size. I'm not sure I'd bother doing that again though. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:21:32 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are also very handy if you're flat towing your car behind your monstrous RV. Even with your rear-view camera looking down on the car back there, you can't tell if it got a flat. To lessen your investment, buy the tire pressure monitoring head unit, and then find one of those RVs and steal the expensive valve-stem pressure transducers off his toad. (Nah, just kidding, they HATE that.) On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 08:59:12AM -0500, Gary Derian wrote: > The one thing a TPMS can do is catch a puncture while you're driving. That > is a good thing as it may save a tire. I've driven my M5 on a flat and > ruined a tire. > > They are more valuable for clueless consumers driving high profile vehicles > where it can save lives, but do provide a benefit for everyone. > >I'm going to get new tires this weekend and wondered if it would be worth > >getting a tire pressure monitoring system. Not that I've had issues with > >this, but I figured it might be something interesting to check out and get > >for the commuter. Any experiences/recommendations? Thanks! > > > >Neil Deshpande ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:14:32 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My usual sources (Brett's site among them) are not up to date on BMW's codes for their new engines. The only web site I could find said the new 6 cylinder gas engines are degignated R6. Anyone know if this is correct? Or if not, what is/are the correct code(s)? Thanks, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:23:27 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott, Check out: http://www.bmwtechinfo.com/, click on the "Model Map" button. The pop up window lists chassis, model, engine and codes. Pretty cool. E90's all use "N52" engines. There is not an analog site for Euro spec cars that I am aware of. David >My usual sources (Brett's site among them) are not up to date on BMW's >codes for their new engines. The only web site I could find said the new 6 >cylinder gas engines are degignated R6. Anyone know if this is correct? >Or if not, what is/are the correct code(s)? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:28:49 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks David. For a second there I thought I was going to have to buy a subscription to get the data, but the Model Map button works without subscribing. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/2006 01:23 To PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] cc Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [UUC] New 6 Cylinder Gasoline Engine Degnations Scott, Check out: http://www.bmwtechinfo.com/, click on the "Model Map" button. The pop up window lists chassis, model, engine and codes. Pretty cool. E90's all use "N52" engines. There is not an analog site for Euro spec cars that I am aware of. David >My usual sources (Brett's site among them) are not up to date on BMW's >codes for their new engines. The only web site I could find said the new 6 >cylinder gas engines are degignated R6. Anyone know if this is correct? >Or if not, what is/are the correct code(s)? > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
