Pzomby... I will well concede that I am a bottomless fool to begin with, so feel free to laugh heartily at me, in the good ole Homeric fashion.....
but, you say consciousness as objectified and determinate entity, as a hypothesized first mover, creates or causes movement through imagined intentions..... but is it something called consciousness that is using intentions to produce sounds and their corresponding images and various powers and movements of the body..... the question is, what is doing this.... mind, "the intellectual principle", "consciousness"..... or something else, or something indeterminate.... and what is the causal mechanism, what is the connection.... this is the mind body problem..... the buddhists talk of "action without an agent"... and laugh at the fact that they are forced to posit such an absurd sounding conclusion..... consciousness may not have an objective existence and may not be the "prime mover" or doer.... it seems to me that consciousness is a concept that only makes sense via its negation... in other words we understand consciousness through our conception of non-consciousness or unconsciousness.... such as being hit unconscious, or dreamless sleep etc..... so that we define consciousness through our conception of the absence thereof.... consciousness is only the non-absence of something... rather then something positive apprehended in and of itself..... consciousness is just the fact that there is no unconsciousness.... it is kind of a ridiculous concept. On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Pzomby <htra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps if I restate my opinion as: > > In my opinion, yes, if in simple terms it is logically correct to > state: A property of “human embodied’ consciousness is….the capacity > and ability of individual ‘human embodied’ consciousness to create > intentionally desired physical and mental effects. > > > On Jul 2, 12:25 pm, B Soroud <bsor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > furthermore you seem to conceive of a consciousness apart from its > > properties... you are making the erroneous distinction of attribute and > > essence.... you sound much like Descartes. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
