On Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:55:35 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > On 8/30/2012 6:35 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:16:14 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> Umm, ever hear of the concept of "Heaven"? It sounds very much like a >> "a future society with a perfect anything or that morals were unnecessary". >> > > Sure, but when does the Left Wing ever talk about Heaven? > > Craig > > > Hi Craig, > > Umm, the Marxists have an analogue... " > classless<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_society>, > moneyless, and stateless <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society> > social > order <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_order> > structured<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_and_superstructure> > upon common ownership <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ownership> of > the means of production <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production>, > as well as a social <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social>, > political<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political> > and economic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy> ideology that aims > at the establishment of this social order". >
When does the Left Wing ever talk about Marxism? Does Dennis Kucinich talk about a stateless social order? Even self described socialists like Bernie Sanders or activists like Michael Moore don't say "we must get rid of money and class!". All I have ever heard from progressives is "We should pay teachers more and useless businessmen less." and "We should stop paying private contractors so much to imprison more and more people on meaningless drug charges". I have hung out with many anarchists, feminists, hippies, and rabid left wing ideologues socially throughout my life and have never - ever - heard anyone mention communism or Marxism in any kind of political context at all. Most of what I know about Marxism has come from Libertarians and Republicans holding up its ghost in effigy. Craig -- > Onward! > > Stephen > http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/-We2MSfPkrkJ. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.