2012/8/31 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> > > > On Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:55:35 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> On 8/30/2012 6:35 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:16:14 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: >>> >>> Hi Craig, >>> >>> Umm, ever hear of the concept of "Heaven"? It sounds very much like >>> a "a future society with a perfect anything or that morals were >>> unnecessary". >>> >> >> Sure, but when does the Left Wing ever talk about Heaven? >> >> Craig >> >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> Umm, the Marxists have an analogue... " >> classless<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_society>, >> moneyless, and stateless <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society> >> social order <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_order> >> structured<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_and_superstructure> >> upon common ownership <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ownership> of >> the means of production<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production>, >> as well as a social <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social>, >> political<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political> >> and econom**ic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy> ideology that >> aims at the establishment of this social order". >> > > When does the Left Wing ever talk about Marxism? Does Dennis Kucinich talk > about a stateless social order? Even self described socialists like Bernie > Sanders or activists like Michael Moore don't say "we must get rid of money > and class!". All I have ever heard from progressives is "We should pay > teachers more and useless businessmen less." and "We should stop paying > private contractors so much to imprison more and more people on meaningless > drug charges". I have hung out with many anarchists, feminists, hippies, > and rabid left wing ideologues socially throughout my life and have never - > ever - heard anyone mention communism or Marxism in any kind of political > context at all. Most of what I know about Marxism has come from > Libertarians and Republicans holding up its ghost in effigy. >
Well you're not living in the right country then... And an anarchist who would not talk about about a classless goal... well cannot be an "anarchist" which means "without hierarchy/authority" not without rules, that is anomie. Quentin > > Craig > > > -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> http://webpages.charter.net/**stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html >> <http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/-We2MSfPkrkJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
