On 7 January 2014 10:27, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1/6/2014 12:58 PM, LizR wrote: > > I know of only one CPT violation, and if we assume no-collapse then > everything else in the universe appears to be either a (rather unlikely) > knock-on effect of kaon decay or a statistical result of the entropy > gradient, which is in turn derived (most likely) from universal boundary > conditions like the cosmological expansion. > > PS It *would *have been nice if you'd started what you said "And" rather > than "But" just to show that you were agreeing with me :( > > > AND there is no known CPT violation. Neutral kaon decay violates CP and > by inference T. :-) >
So no known CPT violation. OK, my mistake. But, apart from that, I believe what I said was correct - and what you said which supported it was also correct. Therefore, we can restate the position as follows... Bell made 4 assumptions: 1) High School algebra and trigonometry work. 2) Things are local (in the sense of no FTL). 3) Things are realistic (in the sense of having well-defined values at all times). 4) Time is fundamentally asymmetric. As Brent has eventually agreed, albeit in a manner akin to having his teeth pulled, most of the interactions in particles physics are time symmetric at the quantum level, and in particular, the ones involved in EPR experiments are time-symmetric. Hence, if we assume no-collapse, Bell's 4th assumption is very likely invalid. Hence it is quite possible that the universe actually is both local and realistic. (And it's at least suggestive that John Bell himself was aware of and agreed with all the above reasoning, once it had been pointed out to him by Huw Price.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

