Re: Airplay question
Hi, I'm sorry I did not give enough information. I have a 2013 Mac Pro, so my monitor is separate. I have a spare (HDMI) port on the monitor, so I can connect that to the HDMI port on the 2013 MacBook Pro. My monitor can switch between inputs, though it involves several menu selections to go back and forth. I just thought that clicking on an entry in the Airplay menu icon would be simpler and easier, if that were possible. I was hoping that Airplay would allow one mac to mirror its screen on a second mac, but apparently Airplay only allows a mac to mirror its screen on a TV or monitor connected to an Apple TV. Is that correct? As for screen sharing, since both the laptop (with the smaller screen) and the desktop (with the larger screen) are both on my local network, in theory couldn't I simply use Apple's screen sharing app rather than a third party app such as AnyDesk? In the past, I used Back To My Mac via my iCloud account and it worked great. However, Apple recently did away with Back To My Mac, and the systems people at work got a lot stricter about screen sharing. If I connect to work using VPN, I can share the screen of the iMac at work with the MacBook Pro at home. The iMac's screen is what I really want to share on my personal Mac Pro (with the large monitor). However, screen sharing between a work computer and a personal computer is not allowed, and I cannot VPN to work from my personal computer. Anyway, I was just thinking that if I could enlarge my laptop's screen by mirroring it on the Mac Pro's monitor via Airplay, that would help. However, it sounds as if that is not possible, so I will probably just go back to the HDMI cable or continue to squint at the tiny shared screen of the iMac on the laptop. I should probably invest in a thunderbolt dock, which I assume would allow me to share the mouse and keyboard as well as the monitor. I was just hoping to avoid spending hundreds of dollars on a thunderbolt dock and thunderbolt cables if I could somehow use what I already have. Thanks, Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We Date: Friday, May 15, 2020 at 6:43 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: X Talk Subject: Re: Airplay question Throughout all of this explanation, you never really give us an idea of whether your desktop monitor is a separate unit, as you would have in a Mini, or an integrated unit, as you would have in an iMac. I have a mini with a separate screen, and an HDMI switch so that I can do the whole job with just a single thunderbolt cable. But I gather that won't satisfy you. The only alternative I can think of is for you to install a remote service screen sharing program such as AnyDesk on both of your machines, and then have your home machine screen-share your laptop. It's clunky, and there will probably be some lag, but it's the only thing I can think of that would serve the wireless requirement. > On May 15, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm sure this is a dumb question, but here goes. I know that Airplay can be > used to send video from any of my Macs to my TV via my Apple TV. For > example, I use this setup to watch live streaming concerts, as it provides a > larger screen and better audio. > > Can I do something similar to show my relatively small laptop screen on my > relatively large desktop monitor? > > The reason I ask is that I can only connect to my employer's network via the > laptop that they supply. For some work tasks, it would be much nicer to see > things on the larger screen, especially since I am already screen sharing > from my computer at work to my laptop at home, so a lot of things are too > small for my old eyes. I can connect the laptop to the desktop's monitor > with an HDMI cable, but I'd rather not mess around with extra cables and > toggling back and forth. Is there an easy way to do this wirelessly (i.e., > view my laptop's screen on my desktop's monitor), such as with Airplay? > > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Airplay question
Hi, I'm sure this is a dumb question, but here goes. I know that Airplay can be used to send video from any of my Macs to my TV via my Apple TV. For example, I use this setup to watch live streaming concerts, as it provides a larger screen and better audio. Can I do something similar to show my relatively small laptop screen on my relatively large desktop monitor? The reason I ask is that I can only connect to my employer's network via the laptop that they supply. For some work tasks, it would be much nicer to see things on the larger screen, especially since I am already screen sharing from my computer at work to my laptop at home, so a lot of things are too small for my old eyes. I can connect the laptop to the desktop's monitor with an HDMI cable, but I'd rather not mess around with extra cables and toggling back and forth. Is there an easy way to do this wirelessly (i.e., view my laptop's screen on my desktop's monitor), such as with Airplay? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: problem with Calculator app
I think you are onto something. I have now tried this on 3 macs that are running Mojave and all give Not a number. I then tried this on 3 other macs that are all running Sierra and all give the correct numeric answer. So it certainly looks possible that some bug was introduced in High Sierra and continued in Mojave. A friend just told me that it works on his Catalina mac, so perhaps they fixed it in the latest OS. I do not have any Catalina machines, so I can't check that. From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 9:29 PM To: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: X Talk mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app This is fascinating. My mid-2015 MBP on High Sierra and my Mini 2018 on Mojave both give Not a Number. My mid-2011 Mini and 2017 MBA, both on Sierra, give a numeric answer, as do both our iPhones. So because I'm now fascinated by this bug, I rebooted my MBP onto Sierra and… got a numeric answer. It's looking a lot like a bug introduced in High Sierra. I wonder what release the guy in the Apple store was running… maybe they fixed it in Catalina. On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: I guess it's sounding more like a software problem than a hardware problem... From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 8:26 PM To: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app I get Not a Number using either your keystrokes or mine. This is weird. On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: My problem machine is at the office. I'm at home now and the Calculator app works fine on that mac. I guess there are multiple ways to calculate exp(-1). What I have been doing is the following. I open the Calculator app and set View/Scientific. I click on 1, then the +/- key, and then the eˣ key. At home, the results field shows 1, and then -1, and then 0.367879... as I click those 3 keys. At the office, I got 1 and then -1 and then "Not a number". As you noted, another way to calculate exp(-1) is to click the minus sign, then 1, then the equals sign, and then the eˣ key. This gives the correct response at home, but I did not try that at the office. In any event, both should function properly and at least one does not give the correct answer on my iMac at the office. Over the next day or two, I will boot my iMac at the office from an external disk with a version of the OS for which the Calculator app works fine when booting at home. Hopefully this will help me figure out if it's a hardware or software problem. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 7:48 PM To: C D Tavares mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Cc: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>>, "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app The ironic part is that I just tried the sequence myself: - 1 = eˣ and got "Not a Number."😳 (High Sierra, MBP 2015) On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> wrote: On the other hand, if it's clearly your hardware, you may have a much easier time of wangling a free repair or replacement from Apple. On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I should be able to do this, but probably not today. I never even thought about the hardware being the problem. That is upsetting. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 at 3:40 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app What's scary about this is that the response "not a number" is often a response directly from the hardware. If, like me, you are lucky enough to have on hand an external drive with relatively virgin copies of various Apple operating systems, you could boot one of them and see if you get the same result. It's possible that you will get this result no matter which operating system you boot on that hardware, whereas if you take the same drive and boot someone else's Mac with it, you may get proper results. That would pretty definitively show that the problem is your chip. On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>
Re: problem with Calculator app
I guess it's sounding more like a software problem than a hardware problem... From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 8:26 PM To: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app I get Not a Number using either your keystrokes or mine. This is weird. On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: My problem machine is at the office. I'm at home now and the Calculator app works fine on that mac. I guess there are multiple ways to calculate exp(-1). What I have been doing is the following. I open the Calculator app and set View/Scientific. I click on 1, then the +/- key, and then the eˣ key. At home, the results field shows 1, and then -1, and then 0.367879... as I click those 3 keys. At the office, I got 1 and then -1 and then "Not a number". As you noted, another way to calculate exp(-1) is to click the minus sign, then 1, then the equals sign, and then the eˣ key. This gives the correct response at home, but I did not try that at the office. In any event, both should function properly and at least one does not give the correct answer on my iMac at the office. Over the next day or two, I will boot my iMac at the office from an external disk with a version of the OS for which the Calculator app works fine when booting at home. Hopefully this will help me figure out if it's a hardware or software problem. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 7:48 PM To: C D Tavares mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Cc: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>>, "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app The ironic part is that I just tried the sequence myself: - 1 = eˣ and got "Not a Number."😳 (High Sierra, MBP 2015) On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> wrote: On the other hand, if it's clearly your hardware, you may have a much easier time of wangling a free repair or replacement from Apple. On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I should be able to do this, but probably not today. I never even thought about the hardware being the problem. That is upsetting. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 at 3:40 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app What's scary about this is that the response "not a number" is often a response directly from the hardware. If, like me, you are lucky enough to have on hand an external drive with relatively virgin copies of various Apple operating systems, you could boot one of them and see if you get the same result. It's possible that you will get this result no matter which operating system you boot on that hardware, whereas if you take the same drive and boot someone else's Mac with it, you may get proper results. That would pretty definitively show that the problem is your chip. On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Hi, I am running the latest version of Mojave (10.14.6) on a fairly new iMac. Using the Scientific view in the Calculator app, I tried to evaluate exp(-1) and it said "Not a number". I tried several other negative values and none worked, even though they certainly should. When I tried taking 10 to the -1 power, I got the correct result (0.1), but for some reason it has a problem raising "e" (the base for natural logarithms) to a negative power. I tried quitting the app, but that did not help. I tried rebooting my mac, but that did not help. I contacted our support group and they said the only thing they could do is to reinstall the operating system, which seems like a drastic step. And exp(-1) worked just fine on the support person's mac. Is there anything else that someone can suggest, short of reinstalling the OS? The support person said that we could not simply replace the Calculator app because it was part of the OS. Any thoughts? Thanks, Gregg -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com<http://macsrwe.com/> -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: problem with Calculator app
My problem machine is at the office. I'm at home now and the Calculator app works fine on that mac. I guess there are multiple ways to calculate exp(-1). What I have been doing is the following. I open the Calculator app and set View/Scientific. I click on 1, then the +/- key, and then the eˣ key. At home, the results field shows 1, and then -1, and then 0.367879... as I click those 3 keys. At the office, I got 1 and then -1 and then "Not a number". As you noted, another way to calculate exp(-1) is to click the minus sign, then 1, then the equals sign, and then the eˣ key. This gives the correct response at home, but I did not try that at the office. In any event, both should function properly and at least one does not give the correct answer on my iMac at the office. Over the next day or two, I will boot my iMac at the office from an external disk with a version of the OS for which the Calculator app works fine when booting at home. Hopefully this will help me figure out if it's a hardware or software problem. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 7:48 PM To: C D Tavares mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Cc: Gregg Dinse mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>>, "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app The ironic part is that I just tried the sequence myself: - 1 = eˣ and got "Not a Number."😳 (High Sierra, MBP 2015) On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> wrote: On the other hand, if it's clearly your hardware, you may have a much easier time of wangling a free repair or replacement from Apple. On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I should be able to do this, but probably not today. I never even thought about the hardware being the problem. That is upsetting. Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 at 3:40 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app What's scary about this is that the response "not a number" is often a response directly from the hardware. If, like me, you are lucky enough to have on hand an external drive with relatively virgin copies of various Apple operating systems, you could boot one of them and see if you get the same result. It's possible that you will get this result no matter which operating system you boot on that hardware, whereas if you take the same drive and boot someone else's Mac with it, you may get proper results. That would pretty definitively show that the problem is your chip. On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Hi, I am running the latest version of Mojave (10.14.6) on a fairly new iMac. Using the Scientific view in the Calculator app, I tried to evaluate exp(-1) and it said "Not a number". I tried several other negative values and none worked, even though they certainly should. When I tried taking 10 to the -1 power, I got the correct result (0.1), but for some reason it has a problem raising "e" (the base for natural logarithms) to a negative power. I tried quitting the app, but that did not help. I tried rebooting my mac, but that did not help. I contacted our support group and they said the only thing they could do is to reinstall the operating system, which seems like a drastic step. And exp(-1) worked just fine on the support person's mac. Is there anything else that someone can suggest, short of reinstalling the OS? The support person said that we could not simply replace the Calculator app because it was part of the OS. Any thoughts? Thanks, Gregg -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: problem with Calculator app
Thanks for the suggestion. I should be able to do this, but probably not today. I never even thought about the hardware being the problem. That is upsetting. Gregg From: Macs R We Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 at 3:40 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: "MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: problem with Calculator app What's scary about this is that the response "not a number" is often a response directly from the hardware. If, like me, you are lucky enough to have on hand an external drive with relatively virgin copies of various Apple operating systems, you could boot one of them and see if you get the same result. It's possible that you will get this result no matter which operating system you boot on that hardware, whereas if you take the same drive and boot someone else's Mac with it, you may get proper results. That would pretty definitively show that the problem is your chip. On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: Hi, I am running the latest version of Mojave (10.14.6) on a fairly new iMac. Using the Scientific view in the Calculator app, I tried to evaluate exp(-1) and it said "Not a number". I tried several other negative values and none worked, even though they certainly should. When I tried taking 10 to the -1 power, I got the correct result (0.1), but for some reason it has a problem raising "e" (the base for natural logarithms) to a negative power. I tried quitting the app, but that did not help. I tried rebooting my mac, but that did not help. I contacted our support group and they said the only thing they could do is to reinstall the operating system, which seems like a drastic step. And exp(-1) worked just fine on the support person's mac. Is there anything else that someone can suggest, short of reinstalling the OS? The support person said that we could not simply replace the Calculator app because it was part of the OS. Any thoughts? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
problem with Calculator app
Hi, I am running the latest version of Mojave (10.14.6) on a fairly new iMac. Using the Scientific view in the Calculator app, I tried to evaluate exp(-1) and it said "Not a number". I tried several other negative values and none worked, even though they certainly should. When I tried taking 10 to the -1 power, I got the correct result (0.1), but for some reason it has a problem raising "e" (the base for natural logarithms) to a negative power. I tried quitting the app, but that did not help. I tried rebooting my mac, but that did not help. I contacted our support group and they said the only thing they could do is to reinstall the operating system, which seems like a drastic step. And exp(-1) worked just fine on the support person's mac. Is there anything else that someone can suggest, short of reinstalling the OS? The support person said that we could not simply replace the Calculator app because it was part of the OS. Any thoughts? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com https://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: good color inkjet printer for mac?
Just to follow-up on my request for printer recommendations, I would like to thank everyone who responded. I really appreciate your help. I ended up buying a Canon Pixma TS9120 all-in-one, which supposedly lists for $200 but was on sale for $50. [Interestingly, there are 3 color choices -- the gold and the red versions were still $200, but the black version was only $50 at Amazon and my local BestBuy matched that. It's still only $70 at both Amazon and BestBuy the last time I looked.] I have not used it much yet, but it was easy to set up and seems to work fine. It can connect via ethernet, WiFi, Bluetooth, and USB. It's very compact and has a simple flat top (no document feeder, which is fine with me). I don't usually care for touch pads, but it has a large 5" screen that works well. It powers off after a set period of time and powers on when a print job is submitted. I wish the paper tray held more sheets of paper (only 100), but so far that is my only complaint, and since we do not print in color very often, the small tray should not be a problem. I do not know how quickly it will go through ink, so that may end up being a negative, but otherwise I am happy with it so far. Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. Gregg From: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Date: Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 4:29 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Cc: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Subject: good color inkjet printer for mac? Hi, Can someone please recommend a color inkjet printer that works well with a mac? Currently all of my macs are running Sierra (10.12.6), though I plan to upgrade to High Sierra soon. I think my first priority is that it is reliable and works well with a mac. Mainly I print on good quality 8.5x11 sheets of paper, though 4x6 photo printing (from a separate tray) would be good. An ethernet connection in addition to USB and WiFi would be nice, though not mandatory. Inexpensive OEM ink refills would be great, or else one that works well with inexpensive third-party ink cartridges. All I really need is a printer, since I already have a laser printer that also scans, though if the inkjet you recommend is an all-in-one unit, that's fine (just not necessary). If it is an all-in-one, I don't care about a document feeder, though having one is OK, and a flat top would be good, so that it can easily scan portions of a long or over-sized document. In the past, I liked HP, but lately they do not seem as good as some others (at least in my limited experience). I have a really old HP C7280 all-in-one that has worked well, but now all forms of communication have failed (first ethernet, then WiFi, and now USB). I have a newer HP C410, but it has never worked well (the color printing is terrible, and I've had two of these). I have a Brother HL-2280DW laser printer that works very well and uses cheap third-party toner cartridges, but I do not know if Brother makes a good color inkjet. I have never had a Canon or Epson (or any other brand). So, if you can recommend a good color inkjet printer that works well with a mac, I'd really appreciate hearing about it. Thanks! Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
good color inkjet printer for mac?
Hi, Can someone please recommend a color inkjet printer that works well with a mac? Currently all of my macs are running Sierra (10.12.6), though I plan to upgrade to High Sierra soon. I think my first priority is that it is reliable and works well with a mac. Mainly I print on good quality 8.5x11 sheets of paper, though 4x6 photo printing (from a separate tray) would be good. An ethernet connection in addition to USB and WiFi would be nice, though not mandatory. Inexpensive OEM ink refills would be great, or else one that works well with inexpensive third-party ink cartridges. All I really need is a printer, since I already have a laser printer that also scans, though if the inkjet you recommend is an all-in-one unit, that's fine (just not necessary). If it is an all-in-one, I don't care about a document feeder, though having one is OK, and a flat top would be good, so that it can easily scan portions of a long or over-sized document. In the past, I liked HP, but lately they do not seem as good as some others (at least in my limited experience). I have a really old HP C7280 all-in-one that has worked well, but now all forms of communication have failed (first ethernet, then WiFi, and now USB). I have a newer HP C410, but it has never worked well (the color printing is terrible, and I've had two of these). I have a Brother HL-2280DW laser printer that works very well and uses cheap third-party toner cartridges, but I do not know if Brother makes a good color inkjet. I have never had a Canon or Epson (or any other brand). So, if you can recommend a good color inkjet printer that works well with a mac, I'd really appreciate hearing about it. Thanks! Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: unable to partition external SSD
Yes, I also like the "old" Disk Utility better than the new one. Gregg From: Carl Hoefs Date: Friday, December 21, 2018 at 11:44 AM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: Macs R We , "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: unable to partition external SSD Gregg, Post-Sierra Disk Utility adds support for APFS, which is incompatible with everything previous. It also adds the concept of "containers" to volumes. I keep a Snow Leopard (10.6.8) system around for just such purposes. Its Disk Utility is very reliable, whereas the new Disk Utility has failed many times to do The Right Thing™️. -Carl On Dec 21, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: I did not even think of that (APFS). Is there an option to choose either APFS or HFS+? This was on a laptop running High Sierra. Of course, I never even got to the point where I could start the partitioning process, much less choose the file system, since the Partition button was gray. Thanks, Gregg From: Macs R We mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>> Date: Friday, December 21, 2018 at 11:09 AM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>> Subject: Re: unable to partition external SSD You didn't say what OS you are on. If you re on Mojave (or possibly HIgh Sierra), it may have decided to format your drive as APFS, under which partitioning is quite a different animal. Specifying HFS+ in the terminal command would have reformatted it. On Dec 20, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Hello again, I found an answer to my question. I googled and found the following command, which seems to have worked: diskutil partitionDisk disk2 1 GPT HFS+ newdisk R I ran this in a Terminal window, where my SSD is "disk2" (as seen in Disk Utility) and "newdisk" is the name I gave to the single resulting partition. Now when I go into Disk Utility, the Partition button is no longer gray, so I assume that I can now create multiple partitions. Gregg From: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Date: Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>> Cc: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Subject: unable to partition external SSD Hi, I just bought a 500-GB external SSD (Samsung T5). It was originally in EX-FAT format, but I used Disk Utility to reformat as MacOS. I would like to partition this SSD, but the partition button in Disk Utility is gray. The other buttons (First Aid, Erase, Restore, Unmount) are all available, but not the Partition button. How can I create multiple partitions on this SSD? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: unable to partition external SSD
I did not even think of that (APFS). Is there an option to choose either APFS or HFS+? This was on a laptop running High Sierra. Of course, I never even got to the point where I could start the partitioning process, much less choose the file system, since the Partition button was gray. Thanks, Gregg From: Macs R We Date: Friday, December 21, 2018 at 11:09 AM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: unable to partition external SSD You didn't say what OS you are on. If you re on Mojave (or possibly HIgh Sierra), it may have decided to format your drive as APFS, under which partitioning is quite a different animal. Specifying HFS+ in the terminal command would have reformatted it. On Dec 20, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Hello again, I found an answer to my question. I googled and found the following command, which seems to have worked: diskutil partitionDisk disk2 1 GPT HFS+ newdisk R I ran this in a Terminal window, where my SSD is "disk2" (as seen in Disk Utility) and "newdisk" is the name I gave to the single resulting partition. Now when I go into Disk Utility, the Partition button is no longer gray, so I assume that I can now create multiple partitions. Gregg From: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Date: Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>" mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>> Cc: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Subject: unable to partition external SSD Hi, I just bought a 500-GB external SSD (Samsung T5). It was originally in EX-FAT format, but I used Disk Utility to reformat as MacOS. I would like to partition this SSD, but the partition button in Disk Utility is gray. The other buttons (First Aid, Erase, Restore, Unmount) are all available, but not the Partition button. How can I create multiple partitions on this SSD? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: unable to partition external SSD
Hello again, I found an answer to my question. I googled and found the following command, which seems to have worked: diskutil partitionDisk disk2 1 GPT HFS+ newdisk R I ran this in a Terminal window, where my SSD is "disk2" (as seen in Disk Utility) and "newdisk" is the name I gave to the single resulting partition. Now when I go into Disk Utility, the Partition button is no longer gray, so I assume that I can now create multiple partitions. Gregg From: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Date: Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Cc: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Subject: unable to partition external SSD Hi, I just bought a 500-GB external SSD (Samsung T5). It was originally in EX-FAT format, but I used Disk Utility to reformat as MacOS. I would like to partition this SSD, but the partition button in Disk Utility is gray. The other buttons (First Aid, Erase, Restore, Unmount) are all available, but not the Partition button. How can I create multiple partitions on this SSD? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
unable to partition external SSD
Hi, I just bought a 500-GB external SSD (Samsung T5). It was originally in EX-FAT format, but I used Disk Utility to reformat as MacOS. I would like to partition this SSD, but the partition button in Disk Utility is gray. The other buttons (First Aid, Erase, Restore, Unmount) are all available, but not the Partition button. How can I create multiple partitions on this SSD? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: clicking on URLs in Finder crashes Finder
Hi David, When I double-click on the icon on the desktop, Safari opens to the correct web page. However, if I navigate to that same file in the Finder (in ~/Desktop), the Finder crashes as soon as I click once on the file (and then the Finder restarts by itself). So, yes, I see different behaviors for the same file. Gregg On 11/12/2018, 8:27 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: > On Nov 12, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> Lately, this works fine from the desktop, but not from the Finder If you locate the originally created Internet Location file in ~/Desktop (the folder, not the desktop representation of that folder's contents) does it also crash? In other words, do you see different behavior from the same file, between in the folder (Command+Shift+D) and on the desktop spatial representation of that folder? -david >> Hi, >> >> I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 and using Safari (12.0.1) as my main web >> browser. I always keep a Finder window open (in column view). >> >> If I want to save a link to the current web page, I often drag the URL to my >> desktop. In some cases, I later drag the URL icon from the desktop to a >> folder in the Finder. Until recently, I could double-click on the URL, >> either in the Finder or on the desktop, and the appropriate web page would >> open. Lately, this works fine from the desktop, but not from the Finder -- >> the Finder window disappears as if the Finder crashed as soon as I >> single-click on the URL. The Finder window then opens again, but not the >> web page. This started a month or two ago and happens consistently, on four >> different Macs. >> >> Is this a well-known problem? If not, has anyone else experienced it or >> heard of it? Does anyone know of a solution? >> >> Since it happens on multiple Macs, it seems unlikely to be a hardware issue. >> I'm wondering if some recent update to Safari or MacOSX introduced this. >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
clicking on URLs in Finder crashes Finder
Hi, I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 and using Safari (12.0.1) as my main web browser. I always keep a Finder window open (in column view). If I want to save a link to the current web page, I often drag the URL to my desktop. In some cases, I later drag the URL icon from the desktop to a folder in the Finder. Until recently, I could double-click on the URL, either in the Finder or on the desktop, and the appropriate web page would open. Lately, this works fine from the desktop, but not from the Finder -- the Finder window disappears as if the Finder crashed as soon as I single-click on the URL. The Finder window then opens again, but not the web page. This started a month or two ago and happens consistently, on four different Macs. Is this a well-known problem? If not, has anyone else experienced it or heard of it? Does anyone know of a solution? Since it happens on multiple Macs, it seems unlikely to be a hardware issue. I'm wondering if some recent update to Safari or MacOSX introduced this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Local Items keychain asking for password
Hi David, Thanks for all of the information. I have had an account at work for about 35 years, so I am definitely an old timer. It's about time to change my password, so (as you suggested) maybe that will solve my problem. Thanks, Gregg -Original Message- From: David Schwartz Date: Friday, March 30, 2018 at 10:04 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: Local Items keychain asking for password So here's what I've experienced: On a Macintosh bound to an Active Directory server _and_ with an MDM profile that requires a passphrase that confirms to a particular recipe. The user(s) had been in this enterprise for a long time; over time the security team had tightened the requirements for new passphrases but allowed existing passphrases to remain valid. When the machines were updated to Sierra, the MDM profile requiring the new, stronger passphrases prevented the Keychain from being satisfied with the older, less secure passphrase. Might have been a bug with the MDM vendor, I don't know. The solution I used was to have the users change their passphrase to conform to the new security recipe. After that the machines behaved normally without keychain prompts. If your enterprise has an online form to change your directory passphrase, you might be able to test the theory by entering your existing passphrase in the "new passphrase" field and see if it's accepted (again, depending on the systems you have in place; a well designed system will give a failure message when you tab out of the field). Or you can just change your directory password to something that satisfies current enterprise policies and see if that solves your issue. The newer you are in your employment the less valid this theory, but that's none of my business. -david > On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > At the bottom of the Login Options panel, there is a line that I don't > remember seeing before. It says "Network Account Server" with an entry for > NIH and a green dot, so I'm guessing that my machine is bound to a directory > server, as you suggested. > > Is this requirement to provide a password just the cost of doing business > this way? I doubt that I am allowed to change this. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > On 03/30/2018, 1:59 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: > > Yes there is. > > System Preferences->Users & Groups->Login Options. > > If you don’t use the same login and password to log into other Enterprise > resources (servers, web apps, etc) then it’s probably not. > >> On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> It certainly could be, but I do not know how to check. Is there a simple >> way to check this? >> >> On 03/30/2018, 1:53 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: >> >> Is your machine bound to a directory server? >> >>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 (Sierra) on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I >>> recently upgraded from 10.10 to 10.12 and my problem started about that >>> same time, though this is on my machine at work, so I don't know if this is >>> related to the OS upgrade or some other change that the IT folks may have >>> implemented. >>> >>> Now when I start up Safari, I often get a panel that pops up and says >>> "Safari wants to use the Local Items keychain" and requires me to enter a >>> password. This never happened until recently. It's not a big deal to >>> enter a password, but I'm curious about why this is now happening and I >>> would prefer to not have to enter a password (about half of the time I >>> start up Safari). Does anyone know what is going on and how to fix this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Local Items keychain asking for password
At the bottom of the Login Options panel, there is a line that I don't remember seeing before. It says "Network Account Server" with an entry for NIH and a green dot, so I'm guessing that my machine is bound to a directory server, as you suggested. Is this requirement to provide a password just the cost of doing business this way? I doubt that I am allowed to change this. Thanks, Gregg On 03/30/2018, 1:59 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: Yes there is. System Preferences->Users & Groups->Login Options. If you don’t use the same login and password to log into other Enterprise resources (servers, web apps, etc) then it’s probably not. > On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > It certainly could be, but I do not know how to check. Is there a simple way > to check this? > > On 03/30/2018, 1:53 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: > > Is your machine bound to a directory server? > >> On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 (Sierra) on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I >> recently upgraded from 10.10 to 10.12 and my problem started about that same >> time, though this is on my machine at work, so I don't know if this is >> related to the OS upgrade or some other change that the IT folks may have >> implemented. >> >> Now when I start up Safari, I often get a panel that pops up and says >> "Safari wants to use the Local Items keychain" and requires me to enter a >> password. This never happened until recently. It's not a big deal to enter >> a password, but I'm curious about why this is now happening and I would >> prefer to not have to enter a password (about half of the time I start up >> Safari). Does anyone know what is going on and how to fix this? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Local Items keychain asking for password
It certainly could be, but I do not know how to check. Is there a simple way to check this? On 03/30/2018, 1:53 PM, "David Schwartz" wrote: Is your machine bound to a directory server? > On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 (Sierra) on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I recently > upgraded from 10.10 to 10.12 and my problem started about that same time, > though this is on my machine at work, so I don't know if this is related to > the OS upgrade or some other change that the IT folks may have implemented. > > Now when I start up Safari, I often get a panel that pops up and says "Safari > wants to use the Local Items keychain" and requires me to enter a password. > This never happened until recently. It's not a big deal to enter a password, > but I'm curious about why this is now happening and I would prefer to not > have to enter a password (about half of the time I start up Safari). Does > anyone know what is going on and how to fix this? > > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Local Items keychain asking for password
Hi, I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 (Sierra) on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I recently upgraded from 10.10 to 10.12 and my problem started about that same time, though this is on my machine at work, so I don't know if this is related to the OS upgrade or some other change that the IT folks may have implemented. Now when I start up Safari, I often get a panel that pops up and says "Safari wants to use the Local Items keychain" and requires me to enter a password. This never happened until recently. It's not a big deal to enter a password, but I'm curious about why this is now happening and I would prefer to not have to enter a password (about half of the time I start up Safari). Does anyone know what is going on and how to fix this? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine duplicates
No, I do not do mobile backups with Time Machine. When I first wrote about this odd behavior, there was an appearance of pairs of "simultaneous" backups through the day, but when I looked more recently, only the latest hourly backup had a duplicate entry. If this does not extend throughout the entire backup list, then I guess I won't worry about it, though I still find it curious. Thanks, Gregg On 03/06/2018, 12:01 AM, "Michael" wrote: On 2018-03-05, at 12:43 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > That's a good idea. I just checked and, based on the names of the folders, there appears to be only one per hour. So, this suggests that the listing within the Time Machine app is reporting two backups per hour when in fact only one is being performed (or at least only one is being kept in the usual location). Do you have mobile backups? > > Gregg > > On 03/05/2018, 12:55 PM, "Macs R We" wrote: > >Why not examine the folder hierarchy on your backup drive and inspect the individual folder names, which will tell you when each backup set was actually taken. Then at least you will know which end of the process is misbehaving. > >> On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I just upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra, so that may be related. >> >> I installed a "new" hard drive and dedicated it to Time Machine. It's only been running for about a day. I opened the Time Machine app today and, as usual, there are the tick marks along the right side of the screen that show when the various backups were performed (when the mouse hovers over a given tick mark). Ideally the backups are about an hour apart. In my case, there are pairs of tick marks with the same time listed. That is, the last two tick marks show exactly the same time, the next two tick marks also show the exact same time (though an hour earlier), and so on. I don't know if two backups are being performed each hour, or if the listing is just messed up. Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know how to fix it? Is there some preference file somewhere that is messed up? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can give me, >> >> Gregg > > > ___ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk --- Entertaining minecraft videos http://YouTube.com/keybounce ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine duplicates
That's a good idea. I just checked and, based on the names of the folders, there appears to be only one per hour. So, this suggests that the listing within the Time Machine app is reporting two backups per hour when in fact only one is being performed (or at least only one is being kept in the usual location). Gregg On 03/05/2018, 12:55 PM, "Macs R We" wrote: Why not examine the folder hierarchy on your backup drive and inspect the individual folder names, which will tell you when each backup set was actually taken. Then at least you will know which end of the process is misbehaving. > On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > > Hi, > > I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I just upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra, so that may be related. > > I installed a "new" hard drive and dedicated it to Time Machine. It's only been running for about a day. I opened the Time Machine app today and, as usual, there are the tick marks along the right side of the screen that show when the various backups were performed (when the mouse hovers over a given tick mark). Ideally the backups are about an hour apart. In my case, there are pairs of tick marks with the same time listed. That is, the last two tick marks show exactly the same time, the next two tick marks also show the exact same time (though an hour earlier), and so on. I don't know if two backups are being performed each hour, or if the listing is just messed up. Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know how to fix it? Is there some preference file somewhere that is messed up? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Time Machine duplicates
Hi, I am running MacOSX 10.12.6 on a mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I just upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra, so that may be related. I installed a "new" hard drive and dedicated it to Time Machine. It's only been running for about a day. I opened the Time Machine app today and, as usual, there are the tick marks along the right side of the screen that show when the various backups were performed (when the mouse hovers over a given tick mark). Ideally the backups are about an hour apart. In my case, there are pairs of tick marks with the same time listed. That is, the last two tick marks show exactly the same time, the next two tick marks also show the exact same time (though an hour earlier), and so on. I don't know if two backups are being performed each hour, or if the listing is just messed up. Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know how to fix it? Is there some preference file somewhere that is messed up? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: 2 bootcamp questions
Hi, Thanks for responding. From you and a few others, I have learned several things about bootcamp. 1. It sounds like bootcamp is only meant to be installed on the primary boot drive. 2. It sounds like only 2 partitions are allowed -- one for MacOSX and one for Windows. 3. If possible, a virtual Windows setup is preferred. In case it matters, the computer in question is a "mid 2012" Mac Pro tower running 10.10.5 (Yosemite). Due to my ignorance, I installed bootcamp on a secondary drive. My primary drive is an SSD with a single partition (for Yosemite). In addition to the SSD, I have several hard drives, one of which I used for bootcamp (and Windows 7). I believe that when I installed bootcamp many months ago, I tried to install it on one of several partitions and failed, though I do not recall the details. I think my next step (no pun intended) was to allocate the entire secondary drive to bootcamp and it worked, sort of. I say "sort of" because there was at least one problem. Once booted into Windows 7, things seemed to work (though I do not know much about Windows). However, if I tried to reboot into Windows, it would hang just before the login screen. The only way I found to successfully reboot into Windows was to first boot into MacOSX (using the option key) and then go into System Preferences and change the boot drive from Windows to MacOSX and then back to Windows again. Perhaps the reason for this problem is related to bootcamp not being installed on the second of two partitions on my primary boot drive. I did not realize that I was not supposed to install bootcamp on a secondary (internal) drive, though it's interesting that it "sort of" worked. In fairness, I did originally try to use Parallels 11, but I could not accomplish what I set out to do. I believe this all started because I wanted to run some low-level disk formatting software that was Windows only (Western Digital's Data LifeGuard and Seagate's SeaTools). I tried doing this via Parallels, but I was unsuccessful, though again I do not remember the details. Maybe I will start fresh, this time with Parallels 11 and Windows 10, and see if it works now. I would like to thank everyone for their help. I really appreciate it. Gregg -Original Message- From: "@lbutlr" Date: Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 2:10 AM To: Mac OS X-Talk Subject: Re: 2 bootcamp questions On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:27, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov> wrote: > > Hi, > > 1. Does bootcamp require its own separate hard drive, or can it be installed > on one partition of a drive with several partitions? It is only supported as a second partition on the boot drive. I don't think you are allowed to further partition, but that might have changed with APFS. > 2. If partitions work, can I install bootcamp with Windows 7 on one partition > and bootcamp with Windows 10 on a second partition? Or is only one bootcamp > setup allowed? Only one per boot drive, as I recall. > I don't really plan to use Windows of any flavor very often, but if I'm going > to the trouble of installing bootcamp and Windows, I thought I might as well > try to install both Windows 7 and Windows 10. If you aren't going to use Windows much, why install it in bootcamp? Use WINE, most things work, and you don't lose tens of GB to it. Short of that, VirtualBox is cheap (as in free) and you can offload the virtual drives to other storage rather than eating your boot drive. In nearly all cases when someone thinks they want to run Bootcamp, they're wrong. Nearly. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
2 bootcamp questions
Hi, 1. Does bootcamp require its own separate hard drive, or can it be installed on one partition of a drive with several partitions? I think I tried using one of several partitions in the past and it did not work, though my memory is fuzzy. If it is possible to use a partition, the previous failure may have been user error, since I am not very experienced with this. 2. If partitions work, can I install bootcamp with Windows 7 on one partition and bootcamp with Windows 10 on a second partition? Or is only one bootcamp setup allowed? I don't really plan to use Windows of any flavor very often, but if I'm going to the trouble of installing bootcamp and Windows, I thought I might as well try to install both Windows 7 and Windows 10. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: BootCamp troubles
Hi, Just to follow up, I did try zapping the PRAM, but that did not help. If the boot disk is set to Windows, I can only successfully boot one time; all subsequent reboots fail. The only work around that I have found is to use the option key to boot into MacOSX, switch the boot disk from Windows to MacOSX, and then switch the boot disk back to Windows. Then I can successfully boot into Windows (but only once before having to do the work around again). As you suggested, it is certainly possible that there is a problem with my installation of Windows. And, if there is, it may well be something that I messed up. However, once booted into Windows, all seems fine (as far as this Windows newbie can tell). I had been using Windows 7, but yesterday I bought Windows 10, so I might try re-installing Bootcamp and Windows 10. Thanks for the help. Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We Date: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 1:37 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: Mac OS X-Talk Subject: Re: BootCamp troubles > On Jan 2, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > My complaint is that although the MacPro tries to boot into Windows, it seems > to get stuck before Windows finishes booting. At that point, I power down and > use the option key to boot into MacOS. The only way I found to successfully > boot into Windows is to first boot into MacOS and then switch the boot disk > to Windows. And this only works for one boot cycle -- if I try to reboot into > Windows again, it hangs. At the risk of committing a Redmond Heresy, consider that the problem may be in your installation of Windows. But I would try zapping the pram first. > Maybe I'll try zapping the PRAM. Is that still command-option-P-R? What do I > lose by doing this? Do I lose a lot of settings and/or preferences? I’ve never lost anything that I noticed losing, other than the stored boot device, which in this case is the point. In the old days it would lose your clock setting until you manually reset it, and it still resets that, but today it’s all set over the network anyway, so you don’t even notice that. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: BootCamp troubles
Thanks for the information. To answer your question, I first got my MacPro to boot into Windows by changing the boot disk in System Preferences. I agree with you that the expected behavior is to keep booting into Windows until the boot disk in System Preferences is changed. My complaint is that although the MacPro tries to boot into Windows, it seems to get stuck before Windows finishes booting. At that point, I power down and use the option key to boot into MacOS. The only way I found to successfully boot into Windows is to first boot into MacOS and then switch the boot disk to Windows. And this only works for one boot cycle -- if I try to reboot into Windows again, it hangs. Maybe I'll try zapping the PRAM. Is that still command-option-P-R? What do I lose by doing this? Do I lose a lot of settings and/or preferences? Thanks, Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We Date: Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:53 PM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: "@lbutlr" , Mac OS X-Talk Subject: Re: BootCamp troubles The question here is, how did you get it to boot into Windows in the first place? If you did it by changing the boot disk in System Preferences, then your first sentence is entirely proper operation. If you did it "temporarily" via the option key, then it shouldn't have gotten set permanently to Windows in System Preferences and it should be automatically booting into MacOS. All this stuff is stored in the PRAM, so maybe you can get rid of this misbehavior just by zapping the PRAM. It isn't a problem everybody else is seeing. > On Jan 1, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > I have only used Bootcamp a little, but I can confirm similar problems. > > In my case, after booting back into MacOS with the option key, if I restart > my Mac, it will try to boot into Windows again, unless I remember to go into > the Preferences app and change the boot disk to my MacOS disk. I say "try to > boot into Windows again" because it always seems to hang when trying to start > Windows after the first time. The only way that I have found to boot into > Windows (after once getting out of Windows) is to set the boot disk to my > MacOS disk, boot into MacOS, and then go back and change the boot disk to > Bootcamp. Only then will it successfully boot into Windows. > > I hardly ever do anything in Windows, but although it's a pain to > successfully boot into Windows, it seems to work fine (as far as I can tell) > after Windows boots. > > Gregg > > -Original Message- > From: "@lbutlr" > Date: Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 11:54 AM > To: Mac OS X-Talk > Subject: BootCamp troubles > > What is the "correct" way to switch from macOS to Windows using Bootcamp? > > If I set the startup disk in macOS to Windows and reboot, I get Windows as > expected. If I then use the bootcamp tray icon to "reboot to MacOS" I get > Windows again. The only way I see to get back to MacOS is to use the > option-boot to select the Mac partition. > > Option-boot does work, but it appears the BootCamp boot option in windows > doesn't do anything, so I suspect I am missing something? ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: BootCamp troubles
I have only used Bootcamp a little, but I can confirm similar problems. In my case, after booting back into MacOS with the option key, if I restart my Mac, it will try to boot into Windows again, unless I remember to go into the Preferences app and change the boot disk to my MacOS disk. I say "try to boot into Windows again" because it always seems to hang when trying to start Windows after the first time. The only way that I have found to boot into Windows (after once getting out of Windows) is to set the boot disk to my MacOS disk, boot into MacOS, and then go back and change the boot disk to Bootcamp. Only then will it successfully boot into Windows. I hardly ever do anything in Windows, but although it's a pain to successfully boot into Windows, it seems to work fine (as far as I can tell) after Windows boots. Gregg -Original Message- From: "@lbutlr" Date: Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 11:54 AM To: Mac OS X-Talk Subject: BootCamp troubles What is the "correct" way to switch from macOS to Windows using Bootcamp? If I set the startup disk in macOS to Windows and reboot, I get Windows as expected. If I then use the bootcamp tray icon to "reboot to MacOS" I get Windows again. The only way I see to get back to MacOS is to use the option-boot to select the Mac partition. Option-boot does work, but it appears the BootCamp boot option in windows doesn't do anything, so I suspect I am missing something? ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
TLER: Time Limited Error Recovery
Hi, Does anyone know of a program that will allow me to check whether Time Limited Error Recovery (TLER) is enabled on my hard drives? I guess it would be nice if it also allowed me to change the setting from enabled to disabled, or vice versa. I'm a bit over my head here, but I heard that having TLER enabled is a good thing for drives in a RAID configuration. Also, I read that having TLER enabled and not using the drive in a RAID is fine, but I have not heard anything about the reverse. Is there a big downside to setting up a RAID with drives that do not have TLER enabled? The reason I ask is that Best Buy often sells the Western Digital EasyStore 8-TB external drive fairly cheaply (today it's on sale for $149). The first one I bought contained a Red drive, which is often recommended for RAID setups and supposedly has TLER enabled. I bought several more, but they contained a Western Digital drive with a white label. The model is slightly different (EMAZ versus EFAX) and I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not it is the same as a Red drive (and I don't know if TLER is enabled on the white label drive). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine stops backing up
Just to follow-up, I never found a solution to this problem, though I appreciate the help that various people offered. In addition to the suggestions in my original message below, I also tried the following: 1. I turned off Power Nap, but that did not help. 2. I disconnected the USB cable that allows my UPS to communicate with my Mac, but that did not help. 3. I checked the links that David Schwartz mentioned -- they addressed why I'm having problems but not how to fix them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please let me know. Thanks again, Gregg -Original Message- From: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Date: Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 4:40 PM To: "'macosx-talk@omnigroup.com'" Cc: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Subject: Time Machine stops backing up Hi, About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded from Yosemite (10.10.5) to Sierra (10.12.6). I believe that this is when my trouble started. Until recently, whenever I looked at the Time Machine panel in Preferences.app, it would show times for the latest backup and the next backup that were roughly an hour apart, as expected. Now when I look, it has often been several hour (maybe even 12 or more) since the last backup. If I tell it to backup now, it backs up. However, an hour from then, the next backup time often jumps by an hour but the latest backup time stays the same. In some cases, I think it performs a backup eventually, but certainly not every hour. I don't recall if it has gone for days without a backup, but I think it has. Does anyone know how to fix this? My disk has plenty of space left. I have tried several suggestions that I found online, but so far none have helped. I unchecked and then rechecked the Back Up Automatically button. I deselected and then reselected the drive used for Time Machine backups. I rebooted many times. I ran the following command from Terminal: sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine RequiresACPower 0 Supposedly all of these "fixes" have helped some people with this problem, but they have not worked for me. In case something was corrupt in the 10.12.6 combo update, I ran that again. Things seemed to work for a few days, so I thought that fixed it, but now the problem is back again. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine stops backing up
Hi David, Thanks for the response and the interesting links. The Time Machine problem described in the first link you posted sounds very much like what I am experiencing. Unfortunately, it does not sound like there is a fix for those of us who do not put our disks to sleep or shutdown our macs each night. Hopefully, Apple will fix this soon, but I guess I won't hold my breath. Thanks, Gregg From: David Schwartz Date: Monday, July 31, 2017 at 5:35 PM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up On Jul 31, 2017, 7:38 AM -0700, wrote: Allow me to join the chorus of people who think Sierra's Console is a useless abomination Sierra’s Console application does not yet take good advantage of the new logging system in Sierra. The new logging system in Sierra rocks. A very good place to learn about Apple’s current “log” program is also the place to learn why your Time Machine backups are wonky: https://eclecticlight.co/2017/07/30/sierra-10-12-6-doesnt-fix-the-time-machine-bug-but-changes-it/ While you’re there, download the latest beta version of his “Consolation” app, and read his "Primer on Predicates” (https://eclecticlight.co/2016/10/17/log-a-primer-on-predicates/). There’s a lot to love about where Apple is going with logging; right new it’s new and in transition and kinda sucky if you expect it to behave the way it used to behave. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine stops backing up
Hi Matt, Thanks for your response. I do use SuperDuper. I run it each night to clone my system SSD to an external hard drive. However, I run SuperDuper in the middle of the night (and it only runs for 10-15 minutes), while the skipped backups in Time Machine often happen in the middle of the day, way after SuperDuper has finished. Also, I have been doing this for years, and this Time Machine problem only started recently, maybe the last few weeks, which coincides with when I upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra. I have looked at the Console app, but I did not see much of anything (Time Machine related or otherwise). I wondered about file system corruption, which is why I re-ran the 10.12.6 combo updater. Since it ran, rather than saying I was already up to date, I assumed it found something to change. This seemed to solve my problem for a few days, but then the problem came back again. I don't have Disk Warrior. Would that work better than re-running the combo updater? Thanks, Gregg From: Matt Penna Date: Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:39 AM To: "macosx-talk@omnigroup.com" Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up This is admittedly a long shot, but do you use SuperDuper? I use that to clone my Time Machine drive for redundant backups, and while the clone is running, Time Machine does not attempt to backup. I recall that on the rare occasion when SuperDuper didn't exit gracefully, I had Time Machine issues afterwards, but these were always temporary. Are you using any kind of disk cloning or backup software that might cause similar behavior? Are there any clues in Console as to whether Time Machine is attempting to back up and running into an error? (Though good luck finding such information. Allow me to join the chorus of people who think Sierra's Console is a useless abomination.) Could there be file system corruption in play? If you have DiskWarrior, perhaps try running that on all source and Time Machine target disks just to eliminate the possibility. -Matt On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: Well, I'm not sure whether being connected to a UPS has anything to do with my problem, but my Mac Pro knows it's connected to a UPS. There is a USB cable running between the two, so that must explain it. The USB cable allows the UPS to tell the Mac to shutdown gracefully if it's been on battery power for a specified amount of time. As confirmation, when I look at the Energy Saver panel in Preferences.app on my Mac Pro (which is connected to the UPS), there are 2 tabs -- one for Power and one for UPS. On another mac that is not connected to a UPS, there is only a single tab that says Power. Again, I don't know if that is related to my problem. Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We [mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com<mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:05 PM To: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> Cc: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com> Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up I can't imagine how your Mac could even detect that it was plugged into a UPS (or a surge protector, or a gas generator) as opposed to a wall socket, so I really doubt the usefulness of that avenue of inquiry. Given the novelty of Power Nap, it's possible that the effective semantics of "com.apple.TimeMachine RequiresACPower" have changed from they were previously, and may now possibly be insufficient for your purpose. > On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> wrote: > > Thanks for the tip. I'll keep TimeMachine Editor in mind as a third party > fix if I don't find a solution. > > Do you think Power Nap is causing this problem? I suppose I could turn it > off and see if that solves my problem. Supposedly Time Machine keeps running > with Power Nap on IF THE MAC IS PLUGGED INTO AN OUTLET. My mac (a 2013 Mac > Pro) is plugged into a UPS, which is plugged into an outlet. One of the > things I found earlier had to do with macs not being directly plugged into an > outlet, so maybe that is the problem. Supposedly the command I listed below > fixes that problem, but I'll try turning off Power Nap and see if that works. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > -----Original Message- > From: Macs R We [mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com<mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com>] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:38 PM > To: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > mailto:di...@niehs.nih.gov>> > Cc: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com<mailto:macosx-talk@omnigroup.com> > Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up > > Try TimeMachine Editor (free) to impose a "manual" schedule outside Time > Machine. It won't technically &quo
RE: Time Machine stops backing up
Well, I'm not sure whether being connected to a UPS has anything to do with my problem, but my Mac Pro knows it's connected to a UPS. There is a USB cable running between the two, so that must explain it. The USB cable allows the UPS to tell the Mac to shutdown gracefully if it's been on battery power for a specified amount of time. As confirmation, when I look at the Energy Saver panel in Preferences.app on my Mac Pro (which is connected to the UPS), there are 2 tabs -- one for Power and one for UPS. On another mac that is not connected to a UPS, there is only a single tab that says Power. Again, I don't know if that is related to my problem. Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We [mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:05 PM To: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] Cc: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up I can't imagine how your Mac could even detect that it was plugged into a UPS (or a surge protector, or a gas generator) as opposed to a wall socket, so I really doubt the usefulness of that avenue of inquiry. Given the novelty of Power Nap, it's possible that the effective semantics of "com.apple.TimeMachine RequiresACPower" have changed from they were previously, and may now possibly be insufficient for your purpose. > On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Thanks for the tip. I'll keep TimeMachine Editor in mind as a third party > fix if I don't find a solution. > > Do you think Power Nap is causing this problem? I suppose I could turn it > off and see if that solves my problem. Supposedly Time Machine keeps running > with Power Nap on IF THE MAC IS PLUGGED INTO AN OUTLET. My mac (a 2013 Mac > Pro) is plugged into a UPS, which is plugged into an outlet. One of the > things I found earlier had to do with macs not being directly plugged into an > outlet, so maybe that is the problem. Supposedly the command I listed below > fixes that problem, but I'll try turning off Power Nap and see if that works. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > -Original Message----- > From: Macs R We [mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:38 PM > To: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > Cc: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up > > Try TimeMachine Editor (free) to impose a "manual" schedule outside Time > Machine. It won't technically "fix" your problem with native Time Machine, > but it might force your way around it. At the minimum, you may get a more > informative error message if it also fails. > >> On Jul 30, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded from Yosemite (10.10.5) to Sierra (10.12.6). I >> believe that this is when my trouble started. >> >> Until recently, whenever I looked at the Time Machine panel in >> Preferences.app, it would show times for the latest backup and the next >> backup that were roughly an hour apart, as expected. Now when I look, it >> has often been several hour (maybe even 12 or more) since the last backup. >> If I tell it to backup now, it backs up. However, an hour from then, the >> next backup time often jumps by an hour but the latest backup time stays the >> same. In some cases, I think it performs a backup eventually, but certainly >> not every hour. I don't recall if it has gone for days without a backup, >> but I think it has. >> >> Does anyone know how to fix this? My disk has plenty of space left. >> >> I have tried several suggestions that I found online, but so far none have >> helped. I unchecked and then rechecked the Back Up Automatically button. I >> deselected and then reselected the drive used for Time Machine backups. I >> rebooted many times. I ran the following command from Terminal: >> >> sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine >> RequiresACPower 0 >> >> Supposedly all of these "fixes" have helped some people with this problem, >> but they have not worked for me. >> >> In case something was corrupt in the 10.12.6 combo update, I ran that again. >> Things seemed to work for a few days, so I thought that fixed it, but now >> the problem is back again. Does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg > ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
RE: Time Machine stops backing up
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep TimeMachine Editor in mind as a third party fix if I don't find a solution. Do you think Power Nap is causing this problem? I suppose I could turn it off and see if that solves my problem. Supposedly Time Machine keeps running with Power Nap on IF THE MAC IS PLUGGED INTO AN OUTLET. My mac (a 2013 Mac Pro) is plugged into a UPS, which is plugged into an outlet. One of the things I found earlier had to do with macs not being directly plugged into an outlet, so maybe that is the problem. Supposedly the command I listed below fixes that problem, but I'll try turning off Power Nap and see if that works. Thanks, Gregg -Original Message- From: Macs R We [mailto:macs...@macsrwe.com] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:38 PM To: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] Cc: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Time Machine stops backing up Try TimeMachine Editor (free) to impose a "manual" schedule outside Time Machine. It won't technically "fix" your problem with native Time Machine, but it might force your way around it. At the minimum, you may get a more informative error message if it also fails. > On Jul 30, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded from Yosemite (10.10.5) to Sierra (10.12.6). I > believe that this is when my trouble started. > > Until recently, whenever I looked at the Time Machine panel in > Preferences.app, it would show times for the latest backup and the next > backup that were roughly an hour apart, as expected. Now when I look, it has > often been several hour (maybe even 12 or more) since the last backup. If I > tell it to backup now, it backs up. However, an hour from then, the next > backup time often jumps by an hour but the latest backup time stays the same. > In some cases, I think it performs a backup eventually, but certainly not > every hour. I don't recall if it has gone for days without a backup, but I > think it has. > > Does anyone know how to fix this? My disk has plenty of space left. > > I have tried several suggestions that I found online, but so far none have > helped. I unchecked and then rechecked the Back Up Automatically button. I > deselected and then reselected the drive used for Time Machine backups. I > rebooted many times. I ran the following command from Terminal: > > sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine > RequiresACPower 0 > > Supposedly all of these "fixes" have helped some people with this problem, > but they have not worked for me. > > In case something was corrupt in the 10.12.6 combo update, I ran that again. > Things seemed to work for a few days, so I thought that fixed it, but now the > problem is back again. Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Time Machine stops backing up
Hi, About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded from Yosemite (10.10.5) to Sierra (10.12.6). I believe that this is when my trouble started. Until recently, whenever I looked at the Time Machine panel in Preferences.app, it would show times for the latest backup and the next backup that were roughly an hour apart, as expected. Now when I look, it has often been several hour (maybe even 12 or more) since the last backup. If I tell it to backup now, it backs up. However, an hour from then, the next backup time often jumps by an hour but the latest backup time stays the same. In some cases, I think it performs a backup eventually, but certainly not every hour. I don't recall if it has gone for days without a backup, but I think it has. Does anyone know how to fix this? My disk has plenty of space left. I have tried several suggestions that I found online, but so far none have helped. I unchecked and then rechecked the Back Up Automatically button. I deselected and then reselected the drive used for Time Machine backups. I rebooted many times. I ran the following command from Terminal: sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine RequiresACPower 0 Supposedly all of these "fixes" have helped some people with this problem, but they have not worked for me. In case something was corrupt in the 10.12.6 combo update, I ran that again. Things seemed to work for a few days, so I thought that fixed it, but now the problem is back again. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?
Hi Michael, Thanks for your input. I realize that most people probably think 970 MB is nothing, but my entire system is only 279 GB and only 86 GB is being considered for backup. I hate to admit it, but my Time Machine drive is only 320 GB. This has not been a problem in the past, since the original backup only took about 86 GB and subsequent backups were fairly small (before Outlook). If I backup a GB each hour, that's about 25 GB per day, which would exhaust my 320 GB drive before too long. I realize that I could simply buy a larger drive, but it just seems inefficient to backup the entire Outlook database every time a single new email is added. Gregg -Original Message- From: Michael Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:37 AM To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" Cc: MacOSX-Talk Talk , "@lbutlr" Subject: Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately? On 2017-04-19, at 7:58 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for responding. > > It seems that you agree that there is some file that Outlook keeps updating, > which then repeatedly gets backed up by Time Machine. This file is not as > large as the Parallels file, but it's large enough to be a nuisance. I just > got to work and Time Machine is trying to backup 970 MB of something (also, > it says it will take 7 hours -- I don't know why it's so slow). I was not > even at work doing anything and it still found nearly a GB to backup. Maybe > that sounds small, but if it does this every hour, it won't take long to fill > my backup drive. 970 MB is nothing. For me, Firefox routinely triggers several hundred GB, and at least once a day Backblaze triggers a 1.2 GB backup. Time Machine stores at most 24 + 1/day of those backups. So even if it is backing up a GB every time, you wind up with 24 GB + 1 GB/day up to a month, then that's about 55 GB, and then it's 1 GB per week. Even if your backup drive is only 1 TB, we're talking about 5% after a month. Now, 7 hours? ... That's a problem. Is that all the time, or once that one long backup ran, did future backups go at a normal time? > I looked in ~/Documents/Microsoft User Data/ and in ~/Library/Application > Support/, but neither was anywhere near 970 MB. The first folder was 289 MB > and the second folder was 198 MB (for all apps, not just Outlook or > Microsoft). So, neither seems to explain the 970 MB. > > Any other suggestions? Is there an easy way to get a list of files, ordered > by file size, so that I can see which files are largest? Back in the NeXT > days, I think there was a program called Dark Forest, or something like that. You want "Grand Perspective". In particular, try to find an older version that was made specifically for Time Machine ("Time Machine Perspective", I think it was called), that stopped looking at duplicated files/directories. This let it look at a TM backup and only show you what had changed. >> Currently I only backup part of my main system drive. I exclude >> /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications. Essentially I >> just backup my user files. GAD, NO. If you must exclude system files, then click the button that excludes what Apple ships. I would give 75% odds that you have important stuff in /Library that was put there by programs you installed, and you probably have something in /Applications that you would have a problem replacing. And frankly, being able to boot from a TM drive in an emergency is a good thing. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > -Original Message- > From: "@lbutlr" > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 7:23 AM > To: MacOSX-Talk Talk > Subject: Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately? > > On 2017-04-18 (09:00 MDT), "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have been using Time Machine for many years, but lately the backups seem >> to be much larger than usual (i.e., hundreds of MB rather than just a few >> MB), even when I have not done anything. >> >> This problem > > I wouldn’t say it’s a problem. > >> 1. We were forced to switch to Outlook (I had always used Apple Mail before). > > That would explain it right there. > >> 2. Citrix was installed, so that I could access my work email in Outlook >> from home. >> >> Is there some large file > > Large? No. Large if you are thinking floppies? Yes. > >> (e.g., a database) associated with Outlook that keeps getting updated and >> thus backed up again and again? > > Yes. > >> If so, what is it called and where is it located? > > It used to be in ~/Documents/Outlook but that was years ago. It *SHOULD* be
Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?
Hi, Thanks for responding. It seems that you agree that there is some file that Outlook keeps updating, which then repeatedly gets backed up by Time Machine. This file is not as large as the Parallels file, but it's large enough to be a nuisance. I just got to work and Time Machine is trying to backup 970 MB of something (also, it says it will take 7 hours -- I don't know why it's so slow). I was not even at work doing anything and it still found nearly a GB to backup. Maybe that sounds small, but if it does this every hour, it won't take long to fill my backup drive. I looked in ~/Documents/Microsoft User Data/ and in ~/Library/Application Support/, but neither was anywhere near 970 MB. The first folder was 289 MB and the second folder was 198 MB (for all apps, not just Outlook or Microsoft). So, neither seems to explain the 970 MB. Any other suggestions? Is there an easy way to get a list of files, ordered by file size, so that I can see which files are largest? Back in the NeXT days, I think there was a program called Dark Forest, or something like that. Thanks, Gregg -Original Message- From: "@lbutlr" Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 7:23 AM To: MacOSX-Talk Talk Subject: Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately? On 2017-04-18 (09:00 MDT), "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been using Time Machine for many years, but lately the backups seem to > be much larger than usual (i.e., hundreds of MB rather than just a few MB), > even when I have not done anything. > > This problem I wouldn’t say it’s a problem. > 1. We were forced to switch to Outlook (I had always used Apple Mail before). That would explain it right there. > 2. Citrix was installed, so that I could access my work email in Outlook from > home. > > Is there some large file Large? No. Large if you are thinking floppies? Yes. > (e.g., a database) associated with Outlook that keeps getting updated and > thus backed up again and again? Yes. > If so, what is it called and where is it located? It used to be in ~/Documents/Outlook but that was years ago. It *SHOULD* be in ~/Library/Application Support/ > This reminds me of the time when I used Parallels, which kept the virtual > Windows machine in a large file and every time something changed in Windows, > even something small, the entire large Parallels file would get backed up > again in Time Machine. Eventually I excluded that file from my backups. By difference between a tens-of-gigabytes file and a db that is a couple hundred megs. > Currently I only backup part of my main system drive. I exclude > /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications. Essentially I > just backup my user files. Backing up Library and System is pretty much a one-time event and makes it much easier to restore your computer. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
why are Time Machine backups so large lately?
Hi, I have been using Time Machine for many years, but lately the backups seem to be much larger than usual (i.e., hundreds of MB rather than just a few MB), even when I have not done anything. This problem is on my Mac at work, where the only things that have changed lately (that I recall) are: 1. We were forced to switch to Outlook (I had always used Apple Mail before). 2. Citrix was installed, so that I could access my work email in Outlook from home. Is there some large file (e.g., a database) associated with Outlook that keeps getting updated and thus backed up again and again? If so, what is it called and where is it located? This reminds me of the time when I used Parallels, which kept the virtual Windows machine in a large file and every time something changed in Windows, even something small, the entire large Parallels file would get backed up again in Time Machine. Eventually I excluded that file from my backups. Currently I only backup part of my main system drive. I exclude /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications. Essentially I just backup my user files. Does anyone have any thoughts about what might be causing my Time Machine backups to be so much larger lately? It seems like it might be related to me being forced to start using Outlook, since the timing is right. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Apple Mail keeps crashing -- SOLUTION
Hi, I would like to follow-up by reporting what solved my problem and thanking everyone who offered suggestions. In my case, Apple Mail would crash as soon as I tried to start it up. I could not use any options within Apple Mail because it would crash before I could do anything. I tried deleting some .plist files, but that did not help. The solution for my problem was to delete (or move to the Desktop) the following 3 files: Envelope Index, Envelope Index-shm, and Envelope Index-wal (and let Apple Mail recreate them). [Thanks Andy]. I am running Yosemite (10.10.5) and those 3 files are located in: /Users/my-user-name/Library/Mail/V2/MailData Apparently these files may be located elsewhere in other versions of MacOSX. For example, I believe that in Sierra they are located in: /Users/your-user-name/Library/Mail/V4/ After removing these files, I started Apple Mail and it did not crash! Instead, it gave me some sort of Welcome to Mail panel, such as when one uses Apple Mail for the first time. It offered to import my mail (and mailboxes). It did not even ask where to look. I said yes and it imported all of my email, which probably took about 20 to 30 minutes (over 120,000 files). When it finished, things seemed to be back to normal. I believe that this procedure essentially rebuilds the mail database. There are probably commands to accomplish this (or something similar) from the command line (in Terminal). I'm not sure what caused my original problem. I know that when I was copying mailboxes, the process would stop (but not crash) when encountering an old bounce notice (i.e., an email message that the address to which I tried to send an email was not valid). I don't know why that would be a problem, since the bounce notice would show up fine in the original mailbox, but for some reason it did not like being copied to another mailbox. Also, I have no idea why I kept some of these old bounce messages! In other cases, the copying would get stuck and Apple Mail would hang (but not crash). I'm not sure when this would happen, but perhaps a severe case of this is what caused my endless crashing problem. In any event, things seem to be working again now. I just wanted to pass along the solution for my particular problem, in hopes that it will help someone else in the future. I also wanted to thank everyone who offered suggestions and helped me out. Thanks! Gregg > On Apr 6, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > Every time I try to open Apple Mail, it crashes. My wild guess is that the > issue is related to a corrupted file. > > I had been copying mailboxes from the "On My Mac" section to a new folder in > the Inbox section. The copying was going fine for a while and then stopped > part way through one of the mailboxes. At some point, I forced Apple Mail to > quit because it was stuck. Now when I try to open Apple Mail, it begins the > start up process and then shows a panel that says "Ignore" or "Report" or > "Reopen". If I click "Ignore" and then try again, I get the same panel. If > I click "Report" and send information to Apple, the Mail app remains closed. > If I click "Reopen", then I get the same panel. So, no choice allows me to > open Apple Mail. When it begins the start up process, I can see the Mail > window for a second (before Mail quits) and the "problem" mailbox is > highlighted. > > I tried logging out and rebooting, but neither helped. I tried removing the > 4 mail .plist files in my Library/Mail/Preferences folder, but that did not > help. I even deleted the mailbox that I think may be the culprit, but that > did not help. > > Is there a file I can delete so that Apple Mail does not "remember" to start > by opening that mailbox, and instead points to some default like the Inbox? > > Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Apple Mail keeps crashing
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am running Yosemite (10.10.5). Are you running a newer or older version of MacOSX? Maybe the shift key trick does not work in 10.10.5. Gregg On 04/07/2017, 10:29 AM, "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" wrote: I tried what you suggested, but it did not work. I held down the shift key while trying to start Apple Mail, but I got the same panel with the choices of Ignore, Report, or Reopen. I still can't get Mail to start. I tried deleting the offending submailbox and even the mailbox, but that did not help. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks, Gregg On 04/06/2017, 7:03 PM, "Macs R We" wrote: When I've seen this behavior before, it's because I had Mail open to a piece of HTML mail which was so malformatted that it broke Mail's renderer. The way out is as follows: Quit Mail. Relaunch Mail with the shift key down. That will cause it not to automatically select the same piece of mail. Find the piece of mail that's breaking Mail's brain. This will probably require you to walk into the same trap, so when it happens, just remember which one it was and then start over. Find the dimple on the pane separator that separates the message list from the message text. Drag it to entirely close the message text area leaving only the list. This will keep the renderer from running. Now that you know which piece of mail is the culprit, select that mailbox, but NOT the message. Select the message before the bad one; hold down shift; then select the message after it. Trash all three. That keeps Mail from even trying to inspect the bogey. Now go into the Trash mailbox and undelete the two good messages. Return to the mailbox and re-reveal the text area. > On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > > Hi, > > Every time I try to open Apple Mail, it crashes. My wild guess is that the issue is related to a corrupted file. > > I had been copying mailboxes from the "On My Mac" section to a new folder in the Inbox section. The copying was going fine for a while and then stopped part way through one of the mailboxes. At some point, I forced Apple Mail to quit because it was stuck. Now when I try to open Apple Mail, it begins the start up process and then shows a panel that says "Ignore" or "Report" or "Reopen". If I click "Ignore" and then try again, I get the same panel. If I click "Report" and send information to Apple, the Mail app remains closed. If I click "Reopen", then I get the same panel. So, no choice allows me to open Apple Mail. When it begins the start up process, I can see the Mail window for a second (before Mail quits) and the "problem" mailbox is highlighted. > > I tried logging out and rebooting, but neither helped. I tried removing the 4 mail .plist files in my Library/Mail/Preferences folder, but that did not help. I even deleted the mailbox that I think may be the culprit, but that did not help. > > Is there a file I can delete so that Apple Mail does not "remember" to start by opening that mailbox, and instead points to some default like the Inbox? > > Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Apple Mail keeps crashing
I tried what you suggested, but it did not work. I held down the shift key while trying to start Apple Mail, but I got the same panel with the choices of Ignore, Report, or Reopen. I still can't get Mail to start. I tried deleting the offending submailbox and even the mailbox, but that did not help. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks, Gregg On 04/06/2017, 7:03 PM, "Macs R We" wrote: When I've seen this behavior before, it's because I had Mail open to a piece of HTML mail which was so malformatted that it broke Mail's renderer. The way out is as follows: Quit Mail. Relaunch Mail with the shift key down. That will cause it not to automatically select the same piece of mail. Find the piece of mail that's breaking Mail's brain. This will probably require you to walk into the same trap, so when it happens, just remember which one it was and then start over. Find the dimple on the pane separator that separates the message list from the message text. Drag it to entirely close the message text area leaving only the list. This will keep the renderer from running. Now that you know which piece of mail is the culprit, select that mailbox, but NOT the message. Select the message before the bad one; hold down shift; then select the message after it. Trash all three. That keeps Mail from even trying to inspect the bogey. Now go into the Trash mailbox and undelete the two good messages. Return to the mailbox and re-reveal the text area. > On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > > Hi, > > Every time I try to open Apple Mail, it crashes. My wild guess is that the issue is related to a corrupted file. > > I had been copying mailboxes from the "On My Mac" section to a new folder in the Inbox section. The copying was going fine for a while and then stopped part way through one of the mailboxes. At some point, I forced Apple Mail to quit because it was stuck. Now when I try to open Apple Mail, it begins the start up process and then shows a panel that says "Ignore" or "Report" or "Reopen". If I click "Ignore" and then try again, I get the same panel. If I click "Report" and send information to Apple, the Mail app remains closed. If I click "Reopen", then I get the same panel. So, no choice allows me to open Apple Mail. When it begins the start up process, I can see the Mail window for a second (before Mail quits) and the "problem" mailbox is highlighted. > > I tried logging out and rebooting, but neither helped. I tried removing the 4 mail .plist files in my Library/Mail/Preferences folder, but that did not help. I even deleted the mailbox that I think may be the culprit, but that did not help. > > Is there a file I can delete so that Apple Mail does not "remember" to start by opening that mailbox, and instead points to some default like the Inbox? > > Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Apple Mail keeps crashing
Thank you very much. I really appreciate the help (and so quickly). I will try this when I get to work tomorrow. Gregg > On Apr 6, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Macs R We wrote: > > When I've seen this behavior before, it's because I had Mail open to a piece > of HTML mail which was so malformatted that it broke Mail's renderer. > > The way out is as follows: > > Quit Mail. Relaunch Mail with the shift key down. That will cause it not to > automatically select the same piece of mail. > > Find the piece of mail that's breaking Mail's brain. This will probably > require you to walk into the same trap, so when it happens, just remember > which one it was and then start over. > > Find the dimple on the pane separator that separates the message list from > the message text. Drag it to entirely close the message text area leaving > only the list. This will keep the renderer from running. > > Now that you know which piece of mail is the culprit, select that mailbox, > but NOT the message. > > Select the message before the bad one; hold down shift; then select the > message after it. Trash all three. That keeps Mail from even trying to > inspect the bogey. > > Now go into the Trash mailbox and undelete the two good messages. > > Return to the mailbox and re-reveal the text area. > >> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Every time I try to open Apple Mail, it crashes. My wild guess is that the >> issue is related to a corrupted file. >> >> I had been copying mailboxes from the "On My Mac" section to a new folder in >> the Inbox section. The copying was going fine for a while and then stopped >> part way through one of the mailboxes. At some point, I forced Apple Mail >> to quit because it was stuck. Now when I try to open Apple Mail, it begins >> the start up process and then shows a panel that says "Ignore" or "Report" >> or "Reopen". If I click "Ignore" and then try again, I get the same panel. >> If I click "Report" and send information to Apple, the Mail app remains >> closed. If I click "Reopen", then I get the same panel. So, no choice >> allows me to open Apple Mail. When it begins the start up process, I can >> see the Mail window for a second (before Mail quits) and the "problem" >> mailbox is highlighted. >> >> I tried logging out and rebooting, but neither helped. I tried removing the >> 4 mail .plist files in my Library/Mail/Preferences folder, but that did not >> help. I even deleted the mailbox that I think may be the culprit, but that >> did not help. >> >> Is there a file I can delete so that Apple Mail does not "remember" to start >> by opening that mailbox, and instead points to some default like the Inbox? >> >> Does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Apple Mail keeps crashing
Hi, Every time I try to open Apple Mail, it crashes. My wild guess is that the issue is related to a corrupted file. I had been copying mailboxes from the "On My Mac" section to a new folder in the Inbox section. The copying was going fine for a while and then stopped part way through one of the mailboxes. At some point, I forced Apple Mail to quit because it was stuck. Now when I try to open Apple Mail, it begins the start up process and then shows a panel that says "Ignore" or "Report" or "Reopen". If I click "Ignore" and then try again, I get the same panel. If I click "Report" and send information to Apple, the Mail app remains closed. If I click "Reopen", then I get the same panel. So, no choice allows me to open Apple Mail. When it begins the start up process, I can see the Mail window for a second (before Mail quits) and the "problem" mailbox is highlighted. I tried logging out and rebooting, but neither helped. I tried removing the 4 mail .plist files in my Library/Mail/Preferences folder, but that did not help. I even deleted the mailbox that I think may be the culprit, but that did not help. Is there a file I can delete so that Apple Mail does not "remember" to start by opening that mailbox, and instead points to some default like the Inbox? Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance for any help. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Printer coma issue
I second the recommendation for a Brother printer. I had HP printers for years, so I resisted changing brands, but recently (maybe about 2 years ago) I bought a Brother printer and it has been no problem at all. > On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:35 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > >> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:08 AM, Macs R We wrote: >> >> Here's a puzzler. >> >> I have a client who purchased a problematic Epson > > Isn’t that redundant? > >> the client's Mac was reporting that the printer was unavailable. > > Right. If it’s not responding it’s unavailable. > >> I browsed pretty much the entire suite of configuration pages, and found >> nothing bizarre or unexpected. Yet later on that day, the printer went >> deaf, dumb, and blind again. > > Sounds about right. > >> The new printer behaves exactly the same way the first one did. > > Not surprising. > >> This client has run WiFi printers before on this exact network without this >> problem. > > The problem is not the Wifi. The problem is not even the printer hardware, > probably. The problem is Epson writes shitty software. > >> Does anybody have any provocative ideas? > > I’ve had a Brother WiFI printer for … 2 years? It’s never once gone offline. > My previous printer was another Brother Wifi printer, but it was connected to > my computers via HandyPrint. That one did go offline on occasions (every few > months), but resting HandyPrint would fix it. We had that printer for 5 years > or so. > > The only thing that I could suggest is to see if Epson has some newer > drivers, however be aware that the last time I dealt with an Epson printer it > came with a shocking pile of crapware. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: is Apple Mail unsafe?
On Aug 2, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Macs R We wrote: > >> On Aug 2, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: > >> I just checked my Apple Mail preferences. Under the Viewing tab, I see that >> I have the box checked for "Load remote content in message". Is sounds like >> I should uncheck that box, right? If I do uncheck it, will I see a bunch of >> generic icons for any content, and will I then have an option to view the >> content if I believe it's from a trusted source? > > Yes, precisely. > > I ran that way for some months, then decided it was too much of a pain in the > butt to continue, security or no security, But try it out for yourself. > > All you do with that setting is avoid triggering "web bugs." They can't load > malware, or do anything other than tell the mail sender that your email > address is live. Since most of my email addresses are business addresses > that are publicly advertised on websites to begin with, I couldn't see the > upside. Thanks. I might try it for a while and see how painful it is. The way you describe it, having the "load remote content" box checked does not sound so bad -- if all it does is notify the mail sender that my email address is live. But does it also load images? I thought that malware, or at least undesirable things of some sort, could be embedded in images. Is that not true? I guess I am really showing my ignorance here. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: is Apple Mail unsafe?
On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:54 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2016, at 08:17, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> He seemed to say that Apple Mail tries to pre-load emails (or things/links >> in emails), which is similar to the user clicking on a link. > > This is not true. If you allow images to be loaded, that content will be > fetched, of course. That's the case in any mail client. But that should not > be confused with clicking links. > > That said, it is better to not have mail load images automatically anyway. I may have misunderstood what the sysadmin said. I just checked my Apple Mail preferences. Under the Viewing tab, I see that I have the box checked for "Load remote content in message". Is sounds like I should uncheck that box, right? If I do uncheck it, will I see a bunch of generic icons for any content, and will I then have an option to view the content if I believe it's from a trusted source? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
is Apple Mail unsafe?
Hi, I have always used Apple Mail, both at home and at work. Yesterday I got a message from a sysadmin at work saying that I had clicked on a link in a phishing email. I contacted him to say that I had not clicked on anything in that email. He seemed to say that Apple Mail tries to pre-load emails (or things/links in emails), which is similar to the user clicking on a link. I may not have the details quite right, but that is the essence of what I believe he was saying. They use Microsoft Exchange servers at work, so this may be in the context of using Apple Mail with an Exchange server. In this case, he said that the malicious link/web site had already been blocked, so this did not create a problem. However, it left me wondering if this is a shortcoming with Apple Mail that I should be concerned about. I also use Apple Mail at home, and at home I do not have a team of sysadmins who might block these phishing emails (though perhaps my ISP does, but I doubt it). Can anyone shed additional light on this? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: How do I see what Time Machine just backed up?
I changed the exclusion to only the TechTool subdirectory within the Application Support directory. Thanks for this suggestion. Gregg > On Jun 13, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Michael wrote: > >> I compared two snapshot paths and I believe I found the culprit. I have >> TechTool software installed. I did not realize it, but apparently it was >> doing a Directory Backup to save "valuable directory structure information" >> every 4 hours. Time Machine was backing up the TechTool Protection >> directory in /Library/Application Support, which apparently involved over >> 2-GB of changes. >> >> I have now excluded the /Library/Application Support directory, so hopefully >> that will solve my problem. I hope this does not create any new problems by >> not backing up the /Library/Application Support directory. > > That wil cause you trouble. > Only eliminate the *ONE* directory in Application Support that is causing > trouble. > Otherwise, every other app may have problems on restore. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: How do I see what Time Machine just backed up?
Hi Arno, Thank you very much. This is exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping there was a fairly simple command line tool that I could use. I compared two snapshot paths and I believe I found the culprit. I have TechTool software installed. I did not realize it, but apparently it was doing a Directory Backup to save "valuable directory structure information" every 4 hours. Time Machine was backing up the TechTool Protection directory in /Library/Application Support, which apparently involved over 2-GB of changes. I have now excluded the /Library/Application Support directory, so hopefully that will solve my problem. I hope this does not create any new problems by not backing up the /Library/Application Support directory. Thanks for the help, Gregg > On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Arno Hautala wrote: > > You can also use the command line "tmutil compare". Provide either two > snapshot paths to compare or it'll compare the drive to the latest > snapshot. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:12 AM, David Schwartz wrote: >> On Jun 12, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> asked: >>> >>> Is there a (simple) way to see what was recently backed up in Time Machine? >>> I'm curious. >> >> http://www.soma-zone.com/BackupLoupe/ >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gregg > > -- > arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
How do I see what Time Machine just backed up?
Hi, I was looking at the Time Machine panel in System Preferences and it was time for a backup, so I left it open and watched. It had supposedly done a backup just an hour ago and yet it backed up another 2.7 GB of files, even though I don't remember doing anything in the last hour (other than having breakfast). Is there a (simple) way to see what was recently backed up in Time Machine? I'm curious. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: How do I access iMovie projects on external disk?
Well, I think I sorta have it working... I used the menu item: File/Update Projects and Events. I had tried this earlier and it didn't work. It turns out that it will only work if the various iMovie folders on the external disk are at the top level. In my case, they were originally several levels deep. I moved them to the top level of the external disk and tried the Update command again and this time it worked. Also, I found that once I did the update, I could move the various iMovie folders back where they were and things still seemed OK. There were a few other hassles along the way. I think things would have worked better if I had known about the top level requirement from the beginning. However, I had already "updated" my iMovie events -- I read somewhere that I could just double click on iMovie Library and it would update/convert the iMovie events. This seemed to work for the events, but I did not know how to update/convert my projects. I hope this helps someone else. Gregg > On May 8, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have not used iMovie for a while. In the mean time, I have switched macs > and upgraded MacOSX. My iMovie files and folders are on an external > thunderbolt drive. When I started iMovie today, it could not find any of my > old files. I went into iMovie Preferences, but I did not see a way to point > to a different location for my iMovie Library or iMovie Projects or iMovie > Events. In fact, the Preferences panel seemed pretty useless. > > I found some instructions online for using an iMovie Library on an external > disk. Basically, I deleted the iMovie Library that is automatically created > in my home directory on the internal disk and then I double clicked on the > iMovie Library located on the external disk. This allowed iMovie (version > 10.1.1) to see the events in my iMovie Events folder (on the external disk). > The events are now listed in the bar along the left side of the main window > and all looks fine. > > How do I access my iMovie Projects folder on the external disk? I found > stuff online about how to move the iMovie Projects folder from an internal > disk to an external disk, but I did not find anything about how to point > iMovie to a Projects folder on an external disk when there is no Projects > folder on the internal disk. > > When I click on Projects from within iMovie, I see place holders for my 11 > projects. The names are correct, but there is a generic icon for each, with > a question mark and the phrase "Missing File". When I right click and choose > play, the between-clip transitions that I added are still there, but the main > clips (imported from a camcorder) have question marks and it says something > like "clip missing -- try importing again from original source material". I > doubt that I even have most of the original clips. I do have all of the > material in an iMovie Projects directory on my external drive. > > Can someone tell me how to point iMovie to this new location? Or, in other > words, how can I access my iMovie Projects that are located on an external > disk, which were probably not properly moved to that external disk? > > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
How do I access iMovie projects on external disk?
Hi, I have not used iMovie for a while. In the mean time, I have switched macs and upgraded MacOSX. My iMovie files and folders are on an external thunderbolt drive. When I started iMovie today, it could not find any of my old files. I went into iMovie Preferences, but I did not see a way to point to a different location for my iMovie Library or iMovie Projects or iMovie Events. In fact, the Preferences panel seemed pretty useless. I found some instructions online for using an iMovie Library on an external disk. Basically, I deleted the iMovie Library that is automatically created in my home directory on the internal disk and then I double clicked on the iMovie Library located on the external disk. This allowed iMovie (version 10.1.1) to see the events in my iMovie Events folder (on the external disk). The events are now listed in the bar along the left side of the main window and all looks fine. How do I access my iMovie Projects folder on the external disk? I found stuff online about how to move the iMovie Projects folder from an internal disk to an external disk, but I did not find anything about how to point iMovie to a Projects folder on an external disk when there is no Projects folder on the internal disk. When I click on Projects from within iMovie, I see place holders for my 11 projects. The names are correct, but there is a generic icon for each, with a question mark and the phrase "Missing File". When I right click and choose play, the between-clip transitions that I added are still there, but the main clips (imported from a camcorder) have question marks and it says something like "clip missing -- try importing again from original source material". I doubt that I even have most of the original clips. I do have all of the material in an iMovie Projects directory on my external drive. Can someone tell me how to point iMovie to this new location? Or, in other words, how can I access my iMovie Projects that are located on an external disk, which were probably not properly moved to that external disk? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Time Machine problem after switching cable modems
Thanks for the help! I really appreciate it. Years ago, I read through a lot of the stuff from the Pondini website. I guess it's time to sort through it again. In fact, the old link I had still appears to work: http://pondini.org/OSX/Home.html I recently bought a new external drive, so I plan to start doing Time Machine backups to a drive that is directly connected to my main mac. Nevertheless, I was still curious about what happened with my old network backups. You have answered most of those questions. Also, I wouldn't mind retrieving the old Time Machine backups and starting incrementally from there, as opposed to starting from scratch. Hopefully I will find something on the Pondini website that might help with that. It looks like the very bottom part of this page might be relevant: http://pondini.org/TM/18.html Thanks again to both you and Matt for all the help. Gregg > On Apr 9, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Macs R We wrote: > > I forgot to answer one question: > >> On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: > >> What happens when someone wants to upgrade to a new Time Machine disk? >> Isn't there a way to set up a new disk, copy the old Time Machine backups to >> the new disk, and then have Time Machine do incremental backups from there? >> If so, is there some way to use that same methodology in my current >> situation? > > By and large, Time Machine doesn't handle this. The strategy we use is to > safestore the old drive in a vault against later retrievals, and start new > backup for everybody. Time Machine is a product designed with infinite > no-brainer use features, but regretfully, is extremely short on no-brainer > administration features. As long as everything foes smoothly, it chugs along > pretty well, but as soon as there is a complication (or you introduce one, > like unexpected network operation), things can devolve pretty fast into a > puddle of goo. > > Again, let me recommend the Pondini website. I know for a fact that he has > an incantation for reanimating transplanted backup volumes; it's just tedious > and overly complicated (Apple's fault, not his) and not guaranteed to work > because who can tell what changes Apple has made since Pondini left us? On Apr 9, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Macs R We wrote: Yeah, I think I've seen what is this precise problem before. Time Machine uses the Backups.backupdb repository for backups from the computer to which the drive is directly attached. For backups done over networks, it uses the sparseimage repositories. Don't ask me why the distinction I think it was introduced to accommodate the Time Capsule product, which was entirely networked backup. Anyway, if you set up the strategy where you backup your machine to a drive attached to a networked device that isn't a Time Capsule, although it mostly works, you can get into a state where the backup side of Time Machine is convinced that your data is supposed to go in one of these repositories (I forget one), whereas the restoral side of Time Machine is convinced that your data is supposed to reside in the other one, and there isn't any. Again, don't ask me why. (In one of my client's cases, it saw the data, but it was really old data — apparently the backup side had changed its mind about which of the two repositories it needed to be using about a year previously.) If you have a crucial need to restore files from this drive, you can sometimes accomplish this by moving the drive to be directly connected to the machine in question. If your data is actually in the backupsdb repository, tell Time Machine to use this new backup drive directly. If your data is actually in one of the sparseimages, mount the sparseimage on your machine first, then tell Time Machine to use it as a backup drive. The other thing to do is to look up Pondini's old website and see if there is some magical Terminal incantation you can invoke to tell Time Machine "my backups are HERE, dammit." i gave up trying to do networked Time Machine backups on the cheap because there were just too many things that didn't work — this was one of them, and another was that the host machine would keep a counter of how many other devices were attached to the backup drive and refuse you if there were more than some small number (which we dubbed the "buy Server, you deadbeat" message), but an OS bug caused the number of attached users not to be decremented when a user eventually detached, meaning I would have to reboot the host regularly to keep backups working. I broke down and bought Server to run on the host machine, and it's worked so much better since. > On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi Matt, >
Re: Time Machine problem after switching cable modems
Hi Matt, Thanks for your response and for offering to help. I am still having this problem, and I will try to provide the details you requested. Both systems are wired (connected directly to my router). You asked how I am sharing things for Time Machine. I am not running OSX Server. I have both computers set up to share files (i.e., the File Sharing option in the Sharing module of the Preferences app). The remote Time Machine computer shows up in the Shared section in the left column of the Finder on the main computer. I click on that entry, which connects to the backup computer. I click on the Time Machine disk, which I guess mounts that remote disk on my main computer. Then I go into the Time Machine module of the Preferences app on my main computer and click on the Select Disk button. The Time Machine disk on the remote computer shows up in the list and I select it. That remote disk is identified as being on the backup computer. It shows the correct amount of total space and remaining space, but it also says "None" for both the Oldest backup and the Latest backup. If I go to the backup computer and click on the Time Machine disk in the Finder, I see 2 entries. I assume these are for the 2 computers. One is a folder called Backups.backupdb, which I assume is for the local backups on the Time Machine computer. Within that folder is a single folder with the name of the backup computer, and that folder contains a bunch of folders with names that look like dates plus other ID numbers. The second of the 2 entries on the Time Machine disk is a Sparse Disk Image Bundle with the name of the main computer (i.e., the one I want to backup). If I right click on that bundle and Show Package Contents, there are 8 entries. There is a folder called bands and 7 files with the following names: com.apple.TimeMachine.MachineID.bckup com.apple.TimeMachine.MachineID.plist com.apple.TimeMachine.Results.plist com.apple.TimeMachine.SnapshotHistory.plist Info.bckup Info.plist token The bands folder has 270,565 files in it, with names that are a mix of letters and numbers (but they do not look like dates, as in the other backup folder). I have not tried removing the cable modem while doing this. What happens when someone wants to upgrade to a new Time Machine disk? Isn't there a way to set up a new disk, copy the old Time Machine backups to the new disk, and then have Time Machine do incremental backups from there? If so, is there some way to use that same methodology in my current situation? Thanks again for the help, Gregg > On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Matt Penna wrote: > > Hi Gregg, > > If you’re still having this problem, can you provide more details? Are both > systems wired or wireless? How is the drive on the remote computer being > shared such that Time Machine can see it—OS X Server, or some other method? > > Have you tried removing the cable modem from the mix just for > troubleshooting? E.g., connecting the systems via a wired Ethernet switch? > > Matt > >> On Apr 2, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I backup my main computer to a disk located inside a second (locally >> networked) computer. >> >> Today I upgraded to a new cable modem. Right after the upgrade, Time >> Machine does not recognize the old backups for my main computer. >> >> Within the System Preference app on my main computer, the Time Machine >> preference panel shows the correct name for the remote Time Machine disk and >> it shows the correct amount of space available on that disk, but it says >> "None" for both the Oldest Backup and the Latest Backup. >> >> I turned off Time Machine right away because I was afraid it would start >> from scratch and try to backup my entire machine rather than only what >> changed from an hour ago. >> >> I also use Time Machine to backup files on the second computer. That is, >> the second computer does Time Machine backups of its own (internal) system >> disk as well as the (remote) system disk on my main computer. Time Machine >> seems to work normally when backing up its own internal system disk, so the >> problem seems to be related to remote backups. >> >> Are remote backups somehow labeled in a way that would change with a new >> cable modem? It seems like that is what is happening, in the sense that the >> old backups are still there, but Time Machine seems to want to start from >> scratch, as if I am trying to backup a third (new and different) computer. >> >> Can someone tell me how to re-associate my main computer with its remote >> Time Machine backups so that it only does an incremental backup when I turn >> Time Machine on? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Time Machine problem after switching cable modems
Hi, I backup my main computer to a disk located inside a second (locally networked) computer. Today I upgraded to a new cable modem. Right after the upgrade, Time Machine does not recognize the old backups for my main computer. Within the System Preference app on my main computer, the Time Machine preference panel shows the correct name for the remote Time Machine disk and it shows the correct amount of space available on that disk, but it says "None" for both the Oldest Backup and the Latest Backup. I turned off Time Machine right away because I was afraid it would start from scratch and try to backup my entire machine rather than only what changed from an hour ago. I also use Time Machine to backup files on the second computer. That is, the second computer does Time Machine backups of its own (internal) system disk as well as the (remote) system disk on my main computer. Time Machine seems to work normally when backing up its own internal system disk, so the problem seems to be related to remote backups. Are remote backups somehow labeled in a way that would change with a new cable modem? It seems like that is what is happening, in the sense that the old backups are still there, but Time Machine seems to want to start from scratch, as if I am trying to backup a third (new and different) computer. Can someone tell me how to re-associate my main computer with its remote Time Machine backups so that it only does an incremental backup when I turn Time Machine on? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: how do I create folders in Mail?
Hi Andrew, Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the quick and helpful response. Gregg > On Dec 27, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: > > On 27 déc. 2015, at 17:18, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> I can still create a single new mailbox in the On My Mac section of the Mail >> sidebar, but how do I create a new folder? > > Does a mailbox not become a folder when you slide another mailbox into it? > > AB ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: how do I create folders in Mail? -- SOLVED
I solved my own problem -- sorry about the noise. Although the "old" way did not work, I found a new way, which now seems fairly obvious. First I create a new mailbox (called NewFolder) by clicking the plus sign at the bottom left. I found instructions that said I could then create a second new mailbox within that first new mailbox (folder) by clicking on the first one and again clicking on the plus sign, but the first new mailbox is greyed out in the pop-up menu and cannot be selected. However, if I simply create a second new mailbox (called NewBox), then both NewFolder and NewBox appear at the first level under On My Mac. I can then drag NewBox onto NewFolder and the former becomes a mailbox within the latter (i.e., goes to the second level), as I wanted. I should have investigated more before asking. Thanks, Gregg > On Dec 27, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > > Hi, > > In the Apple Mail app, I can click the plus sign in the lower left corner of > the main window to create a new mailbox. For example, I can add a new > mailbox called "NewBox" by entering that text. > > Not too long ago, I could add a new folder and a new mailbox by entering > "NewFolder/NewBox". This would create a folder called "NewFolder" with a > triangle to the left of it. If I clicked the triangle, I would see a mailbox > called "NewBox" within that folder. > > Now under Yosemite (10.10.5), and I assume under El Capitan, entering > "NewFolder/NewBox" does nothing. It does not create a new folder containing > a new mailbox, nor does it even create a new mailbox. > > I can still create a single new mailbox in the On My Mac section of the Mail > sidebar, but how do I create a new folder? > > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
how do I create folders in Mail?
Hi, In the Apple Mail app, I can click the plus sign in the lower left corner of the main window to create a new mailbox. For example, I can add a new mailbox called "NewBox" by entering that text. Not too long ago, I could add a new folder and a new mailbox by entering "NewFolder/NewBox". This would create a folder called "NewFolder" with a triangle to the left of it. If I clicked the triangle, I would see a mailbox called "NewBox" within that folder. Now under Yosemite (10.10.5), and I assume under El Capitan, entering "NewFolder/NewBox" does nothing. It does not create a new folder containing a new mailbox, nor does it even create a new mailbox. I can still create a single new mailbox in the On My Mac section of the Mail sidebar, but how do I create a new folder? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
new entries in Calendar often revert to "new event"
Hi, In the last month or two, many of my new entries in Calendar revert back to "new event" and lose any information that I entered. In some cases this happens right away and in other cases it happens a day or two later. It does not happen with every new entry, but it happens enough to be very annoying. It happens across multiple MacOSX computers linked to my iCloud account, so I am guessing that it is an iCloud problem or a software problem rather than a hardware problem. I do not share my calendars with any other users. I am running Mail 7.3 and Mavericks (10.9.5). I googled and found that others are having similar problems. Does anyone know of a solution? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: can't lock TimeMachine in System Preferences
Hi Bob, Thanks for checking your system. I wonder if some recent system update broke this. Gregg On 8 May 2015, at 11:26 AM, Bob Nugent wrote: > Mine too. > > -Original Message- > From: MacOSX-talk [mailto:macosx-talk-boun...@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of > Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:08 AM > To: macosx-talk@omnigroup.com Talk > Cc: Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > Subject: can't lock TimeMachine in System Preferences > > Hi, > > I use a non-admin account on my Mac Pro, which is running 10.9.5. In the > System Preferences app, I keep things locked and then I click on the little > lock icon in the lower left corner (and authenticate) when I want to change > something. > > Today I noticed that the Time Machine preference panel was unlocked, so I > clicked on the icon to lock it, but nothing happened. I tried some other > panels and I could still lock and unlock those. > > I rebooted into recovery mode and ran Disk Utility to repair the disk and > the permissions, but that did not help. I tried logging in as Admin, but > then there is no little lock icon in the Time Preferences app. I logged in > as Guest User and again I could not lock the Time Machine preferences, > though I could lock and unlock others. I deleted the plist for TimeMachine > in /Library/Preferences (and let it be recreated), but that did not help. > > Does anyone know what might be wrong and how I can fix this? > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > ___ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
can't lock TimeMachine in System Preferences
Hi, I use a non-admin account on my Mac Pro, which is running 10.9.5. In the System Preferences app, I keep things locked and then I click on the little lock icon in the lower left corner (and authenticate) when I want to change something. Today I noticed that the Time Machine preference panel was unlocked, so I clicked on the icon to lock it, but nothing happened. I tried some other panels and I could still lock and unlock those. I rebooted into recovery mode and ran Disk Utility to repair the disk and the permissions, but that did not help. I tried logging in as Admin, but then there is no little lock icon in the Time Preferences app. I logged in as Guest User and again I could not lock the Time Machine preferences, though I could lock and unlock others. I deleted the plist for TimeMachine in /Library/Preferences (and let it be recreated), but that did not help. Does anyone know what might be wrong and how I can fix this? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: how to get a list of authorized devices
On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > On Mar 17, 2015, at 13:28, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> When I try to update apps from my newest computer, I get a message that says >> something about not being allowed because I already have 5 devices >> activated. Overall, I have more than 5 MacOSX and iOS devices >> combined, so I guess I will need to use 2 different accounts. > > That is not the issue. You are authorized for apps and DRM content on up to > five *Macs*, Chances are you have some older Mac (or previous OS install on > an existing Mac) that is authorized. You can “Reauthorize All” on the iTunes > Store and then reauthorize the current computer. > > I’ve heard there is a 10 device limit for iOS, but I have never hit it, and I > have a lo more than 10 iOS devices. Thanks. At first I was not sure how to "Reauthorize All" or "Deauthorize All". The only choices I saw in the Store menu of iTunes were "Authorize This Computer" and "Deauthorize This Computer". But then I clicked on "View" my account and there I found an option to Deauthorize All. So I did that, and now I will add back the ones I want. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
how to get a list of authorized devices
Hi, When I try to update apps from my newest computer, I get a message that says something about not being allowed because I already have 5 devices activated. Overall, I have more than 5 MacOSX and iOS devices combined, so I guess I will need to use 2 different accounts. How can I get a list of all devices activated under my account(s)? Can I deactivate an old device that is no longer in my possession? How do I deactivate a device? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
Hi, The App Store icon shows that I have an update to install, but when I click on it, the main window says: "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable" What does that mean and how do I fix it? I don't know if this is related, but when I signed out of the App Store and tried to sign in again, I got an error message saying "plist parsing error". What is that and how do I fix it? By the way, this is on a Mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running Yosemite (10.10.2). This computer always worked great until I upgraded to Yosemite. Now it has had a lot of problems. Thanks in advance for any help. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
And I forgot to mention, since I thought it was unrelated, but I can't connect to work via Back-To-My-Mac, so hopefully that will clear up as well, after Apple's servers are fixed. On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > Hi Carl, > > Oh, OK. Thanks. I did not realize that Apple was having problems. I just > assumed it was my machine. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Carl Hoefs > wrote: > >> It’s not your machine. Apple’s servers are having some fits today. Everyone >> is affected. All one can do is to wait it out... >> -Carl >> >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The App Store icon shows that I have an update to install, but when I click >>> on it, the main window says: >>> >>> "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable" >>> >>> What does that mean and how do I fix it? >>> >>> I don't know if this is related, but when I signed out of the App Store and >>> tried to sign in again, I got an error message saying "plist parsing >>> error". What is that and how do I fix it? >>> >>> By the way, this is on a Mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running Yosemite (10.10.2). >>> This computer always worked great until I upgraded to Yosemite. Now it has >>> had a lot of problems. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help. >>> >>> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
Hi Carl, Oh, OK. Thanks. I did not realize that Apple was having problems. I just assumed it was my machine. Thanks, Gregg On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Carl Hoefs wrote: > It’s not your machine. Apple’s servers are having some fits today. Everyone > is affected. All one can do is to wait it out... > -Carl > > On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The App Store icon shows that I have an update to install, but when I click >> on it, the main window says: >> >> "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable" >> >> What does that mean and how do I fix it? >> >> I don't know if this is related, but when I signed out of the App Store and >> tried to sign in again, I got an error message saying "plist parsing error". >> What is that and how do I fix it? >> >> By the way, this is on a Mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running Yosemite (10.10.2). >> This computer always worked great until I upgraded to Yosemite. Now it has >> had a lot of problems. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: how do I create a DVD Audio disc?
Hi Jay, This looks promising. A quick glance at their web site shows that it mentions 5.1 surround sound. I'll check it out more carefully later. Thanks! Gregg On 9 Feb 2015, at 5:35 PM, Jay Lavelle wrote: > Look at DVD Audio Extractor -- runs on OSX and does a lot. > > http://www.dvdae.com > > Jay > > On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > >> On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:57 AM, LuKreme wrote: >> >>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >>> wrote: >>>> Is there any OSX software that would allow me to create my own DVD Audio >>>> disc from one of my concert DVDs? I own the concert DVDs, so hopefully >>>> this is legal, though I never know these days with all the DRM fuss. >>> >>> Maybe >>> >>> <http://www.mireth.com/wt/mpme-burn-dvd-audio-mac.html> >> >> Thanks for the link, but I'm not optimistic. I did not see any mention of >> 5.1 or surround sound. In fact, I saw something that said stereo was >> converted to mono so that the user could listen with an ear bud in just one >> ear. The site mentions DVD Audio, but I have a feeling it's a way to get >> more music on a disc (DVD versus CD) rather than a way to preserve 5.1 >> surround sound. >> >> Again, my goal is to create a disc that can play 5.1 surround sound. DVD >> Audio is such a format, though apparently one that did not catch on. I was >> wondering if there is a tool that would allow me to transfer 5.1 audio from >> a concert DVD to an audio-only 5.1 disc in the DVD Audio format. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: how do I create a DVD Audio disc?
On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:57 AM, LuKreme wrote: > On Feb 8, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> Is there any OSX software that would allow me to create my own DVD Audio >> disc from one of my concert DVDs? I own the concert DVDs, so hopefully this >> is legal, though I never know these days with all the DRM fuss. > > Maybe > > <http://www.mireth.com/wt/mpme-burn-dvd-audio-mac.html> Thanks for the link, but I'm not optimistic. I did not see any mention of 5.1 or surround sound. In fact, I saw something that said stereo was converted to mono so that the user could listen with an ear bud in just one ear. The site mentions DVD Audio, but I have a feeling it's a way to get more music on a disc (DVD versus CD) rather than a way to preserve 5.1 surround sound. Again, my goal is to create a disc that can play 5.1 surround sound. DVD Audio is such a format, though apparently one that did not catch on. I was wondering if there is a tool that would allow me to transfer 5.1 audio from a concert DVD to an audio-only 5.1 disc in the DVD Audio format. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
how do I create a DVD Audio disc?
Hi, I have a car with a 5.1 sound system that plays DVD-A (or DVD Audio) discs, which are music discs that look like CDs but provide 5.1 audio rather than simply stereo. Unfortunately, DVD-A discs are very expensive. Even used ones on ebay seem to cost at least $20, if not $50 or more. I have a couple dozen concert DVDs, by which I mean DVD video discs with 5.1 audio, though I have no idea whether the audio format is the same as on DVD Audio discs. Is there any OSX software that would allow me to create my own DVD Audio disc from one of my concert DVDs? I own the concert DVDs, so hopefully this is legal, though I never know these days with all the DRM fuss. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: can't uncheck box in Finder Preferences
Here are 2 follow-up points regarding my original post: 1. As for not being able to uncheck certain boxes in Finder Preferences, it does indeed look like some sysadmin pushed some changes. I have not yet spoken to anyone who comfirmed this push, but I did verify the same behavior with a few other mac users at work. So at least it was not a bug or a corrupt file that affected only me. One box that now cannot be unchecked is the one that nags you about whether you really want to empty the trash. I assume this was done to protect users from themselves. The other boxes that cannot be unchecked are the ones that control what icons show up on the desktop. For whatever reason, I don't like to have my 4 hard disk icons on my desktop, but now I can't prevent that. I'm not sure why the sysadmins care whether or not hard drive icons are on the desktop! 2. As for the seemingly automatic security update, I found a preference box checked which said that the system would automatically install system data files and security updates (in the App Store panel of System Preferences). I'm wondering if a recent update made this the default. I was able to uncheck this one, but I left it checked, since I think this is probably a good idea. I just don't remember *not* being asked in the past, so perhaps this is new default behavior. Gregg On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:18 AM, LuKreme wrote: > On 03 Jan 2015, at 19:22 , Macs R We wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >>> I do remember all of my computers recently having a message panel pop up >>> that said something about a security update. This was the first time that >>> I recall thinking that the update had been performed without asking for my >>> permission. >> >> Yup, everybody saw this, and indeed it was the first time. Not a good >> precedent. > > Why would you say that? It was a remote code-execution with privilege > elevation bug against a service that is running on the majority of OS X > machines. It doe not get any more critical than that. > > Machines with an patched ntp were, quite literally, 100% exploitable. > >>> Are you saying that perhaps the update produced this behavior? I suppose >>> it's possible, though only one of my computers is having this problem. >>> Could the bug be hardware-specific? >> >> I guess it’s a possibility that the update had something to do with the >> behavior, > > I seriously doubt it. > >> but my money is on some different cause. Unfortunately, I can’t say what >> that cause might me. > > He mentioned an “admin” so maybe someone pushed out some settings? ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: can't uncheck box in Finder Preferences
Now that I think about it, the only computer that is having this problem is the one still running Mountain Lion. The others are all running Mavericks or Yosemite, so maybe the OS version has something to do with the problem. Gregg On Jan 3, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Macs R We wrote: > On Jan 3, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> I do remember all of my computers recently having a message panel pop up >> that said something about a security update. This was the first time that I >> recall thinking that the update had been performed without asking for my >> permission. > > Yup, everybody saw this, and indeed it was the first time. Not a good > precedent. > >> Are you saying that perhaps the update produced this behavior? I suppose >> it's possible, though only one of my computers is having this problem. >> Could the bug be hardware-specific? > > I guess it’s a possibility that the update had something to do with the > behavior, but my money is on some different cause. Unfortunately, I can’t > say what that cause might me. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: can't uncheck box in Finder Preferences
I do remember all of my computers recently having a message panel pop up that said something about a security update. This was the first time that I recall thinking that the update had been performed without asking for my permission. Are you saying that perhaps the update produced this behavior? I suppose it's possible, though only one of my computers is having this problem. Could the bug be hardware-specific? Thanks, Gregg On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, George N. White III wrote: > Some systems are reported to be getting automatic updates of ntp. It > wouldn't be a big surprise to find that the automatic updater is buggy as > this may be the first time Apple has used it for large scale updating. > > On Fri Jan 02 2015 at 3:11:10 PM Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Mac Pro tower that is running Mountain Lion (10.8.5). When I came > to work this morning, some settings on my machine had changed. My computer > seemed to be in a deep sleep, though I had previously set it to never sleep. > Sure enough, the Energy Saver setting (in System Preferences) had been reset > to "Put hard disks to sleep when possible." Maybe a sysadmin adjusted some > of my settings, but that seems strange. > > I also noticed that all of the internal hard drives had icons on the desktop, > even though I had previously had the Hard disks box unchecked in the General > tab of Finder Preferences. When I looked, the box was now checked, so that > explains why the disk icons are on my desktop. But when I try to uncheck > that box, nothing happens. I seem to be able to check and uncheck other > boxes in Finder Preferences, but not any of the 4 that control which items > show on the desktop. > > Does this mean that my system or hard drive has somehow been corrupted? I > rebooted in Recovery Mode and ran Disk Utility to repair the boot drive and > to repair permissions, but that did not help. Is there a command line option > to control what is shown on the desktop? Is there some plist file that I > should delete? > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > P.S. Probably this is a sign that I should upgrade to Mavericks. :) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
can't uncheck box in Finder Preferences
Hi, I have a Mac Pro tower that is running Mountain Lion (10.8.5). When I came to work this morning, some settings on my machine had changed. My computer seemed to be in a deep sleep, though I had previously set it to never sleep. Sure enough, the Energy Saver setting (in System Preferences) had been reset to "Put hard disks to sleep when possible." Maybe a sysadmin adjusted some of my settings, but that seems strange. I also noticed that all of the internal hard drives had icons on the desktop, even though I had previously had the Hard disks box unchecked in the General tab of Finder Preferences. When I looked, the box was now checked, so that explains why the disk icons are on my desktop. But when I try to uncheck that box, nothing happens. I seem to be able to check and uncheck other boxes in Finder Preferences, but not any of the 4 that control which items show on the desktop. Does this mean that my system or hard drive has somehow been corrupted? I rebooted in Recovery Mode and ran Disk Utility to repair the boot drive and to repair permissions, but that did not help. Is there a command line option to control what is shown on the desktop? Is there some plist file that I should delete? Thanks, Gregg P.S. Probably this is a sign that I should upgrade to Mavericks. :) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
iTunes sharing
Hi, I have a 2012 Mac Pro (tower style) and a 2013 Mac Pro (new cylinder design), where the latter is now my main computer. A few weeks ago, I asked how to allow the new Mac Pro to share the optical drive on the old Mac Pro to import music from CDs into iTunes. The eventual answer was that it's not possible, probably due to DRM issues. I can share the optical drive for data, but not music from commercial CDs (unless I reboot into Target Disk Mode each time I want to import a CD, which I would rather not do). I could also buy an external optical drive and attach it to the new Mac Pro, but I would rather use my current optical drive and avoid unnecessary clutter (and expense). So now my thinking is that perhaps I could use the old Mac Pro to hold my iTunes music and then share its iTunes library with the new Mac Pro. This seems to mostly work, but there is one glitch. I am running iTunes 12.0.1.26 and OSX 10.9.5 on both machines. With iTunes sharing turned on, I see a little house icon with a musical note symbol in the upper left corner of the iTunes window. When I click on it, I see 2 menu items. The first item is "This Computer" and the second points to the name of my iTunes library. When I choose the second item, it connects me to the iTunes library on the old Mac Pro (via my local network), which is what I want. I also have to click on Artists in the upper right corner, since I prefer this view and the default view seems to be Albums. The glitch is that every time I quit iTunes and restart it (on the new Mac Pro), I have to go through this 2-step selection again. Is there any way to make my preferences stick? I renamed my iTunes Media folder on the new Mac Pro, but that did not work. Each time I start iTunes, I have to switch from "This Computer" to the remote iTunes library and I have to switch from Albums to Artists. How can I get my choices to stick? I did not try deleting (rather than renaming) the iTunes Media folder on the new Mac Pro, since I like having "backups" of important material. I thought that moving or renaming the folder would be enough, but perhaps it's not. I guess I will try that next, unless someone has a simpler solution. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
On 15 Dec 2014, at 12:35 PM, Carl Hoefs wrote: > Curious — have you tried using Target Disk Mode TDM on the old Mac Pro with > the optical drive? > -Carl Hi Carl, Someone else suggested that as well, and I have not yet tried it, but I was hoping for a more convenient solution. I don't really want to reboot (in Target Disk Mode) every time I want to import a CD (that I own!) into iTunes. On 15 Dec 2014, at 1:03 PM, Macs R We wrote: > That's guaranteed to work. I've done that myself. Only it won't help him if > he has to access a networked machine at a physical distance. Damn DRM laws > strike again. In my case, although the 2 macs are networked, they are both in the same room, so I could use Target Disk Mode if I wanted, but I was really hoping for something more convenient (via screen sharing and optical disk sharing). Why does DRM allow me to import songs to a mac that has an optical drive built-in, but not to a mac that has been set up to share the other one's drive? Both are authorized in iTunes, so that should show that both are my macs. With the new Mac Pros (and MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs and Mac Minis) not having an optical drive, is this a way to force folks like me to buy an external optical drive that can be connected directly? I can do that, but among other things, it adds clutter. Thanks, Gregg > On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, LuKreme wrote: >> >>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >>> wrote: >>>> One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and >>>> not with audio CDs. >>> >>> <http://support.apple.com/en-us/ht5287> >>> >>> Note: These types of discs or activities are not supported by DVD or CD >>> sharing: >>> >>> • DVD movies. >>> • Audio CDs. >>> • Copy protected discs such as game discs. >>> • Install discs for an operating system such as Microsoft Windows (for >>> use with Boot Camp), or Mac OS X. >>> • Burn a CD or DVD >> >> Yes, that's the article I saw. So why aren't audio CDs supported? Is it a >> DRM thing? I own the audio CD and both computers. Why should I be allowed >> to import the songs on the CD to one Mac, but not to the other Mac that is >> sharing the drive? Both computers are authorized in iTunes. >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and >> not with audio CDs. > > <http://support.apple.com/en-us/ht5287> > > Note: These types of discs or activities are not supported by DVD or CD > sharing: > > • DVD movies. > • Audio CDs. > • Copy protected discs such as game discs. > • Install discs for an operating system such as Microsoft Windows (for > use with Boot Camp), or Mac OS X. > • Burn a CD or DVD Yes, that's the article I saw. So why aren't audio CDs supported? Is it a DRM thing? I own the audio CD and both computers. Why should I be allowed to import the songs on the CD to one Mac, but not to the other Mac that is sharing the drive? Both computers are authorized in iTunes. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
import to iTunes from remote CD?
Hi, How do I import music into iTunes on a new Mac Pro (without an optical drive) from a CD in the optical drive of an old Mac Pro? On my old Mac Pro with a built-in optical drive, I set up "DVD or CD Sharing" in System Preferences and I did not check the box to have it ask me before allowing others to use it. On the new Mac Pro, I can click on "Remote Disc" in the Sidebar of the Finder and see an entry for "Audio CD", but clicking on it does not display the contents. Similarly, from within iTunes on the new Mac Pro, I can click on "Add to Library" and navigate to the shared "Audio CD", but the "Open" button remains gray and I cannot click on it. In both cases, there is a "Connect As" button in the navigation panel, but clicking on it simply makes it blink once and nothing else happens. What else do I need to do to gain access to the CD in the remote optical drive? I googled and did not find much. A few articles made it sound easy, doing just what I did. One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and not with audio CDs. Why is that? I own the CD and both Mac Pros. They are both running Mavericks and are connected via ethernet to the same LAN. Is this not possible? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: failing disk in RAID10 array
On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:32 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> For now, I ended up putting the failing drive back in the enclosure. Do you >> have any other ideas about how to rebuild my RAID? I noticed that there was >> an option to automatically rebuild. It was a box that I could have checked >> when I first set up the RAID. Perhaps I should have selected that option. >> It looked like I could still check the box, but I did not want to mess >> things up further, so for now I left it unchecked. > > Hmm, I don’t have any suggestions other than backup. recreate the raid, and > restore. Yes, apparently that is the solution. :( I had a very unfortunate experience with AppleCare related to this. I was "helped" by a senior superviser, who supposedly knew something about RAID via Disk Utility. To make a long (2-hour) story short, within a screen-sharing session, he told me to click the "Delete" button, which destroyed the RAID structure and then he later realized that it could not be rebuilt. He checked with other sources and then told me that I would have to setup the RAID again and copy my files to it. He never once expressed uncertainty about what he was telling me to do, so I trusted him. He never once told me to backup my files, nor did he ask if I had a backup. After following his instructions, all of my files were unreachable. He apologized and said he understood my frustration, but that did not help get my data back. Luckily, I had most of my files backed up, but it seems very irresponsible for a senior superviser at Apple to not even mention a backup before telling me to do something that essentially destroyed all of my files. I asked why there was a button (though grayed out) that said "Rebuild" if it was not possible to rebuild the RAID? He said it was a legacy option for the older Mac Pros. It seems like he should have consulted his other sources and found this out earlier, before telling me to delete the RAID components. This experience certainly reinforced my feeling that backups are critical. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: failing disk in RAID10 array
Hi LuKreme, I tried to follow your instructions for rebuilding my RAID, but I had problems. I replaced the failing drive with an identical one and powered up the enclosure. I opened Disk Utility, and chose the missing drive, but I could not find anything about "Demote". There was an option for "Delete" and I chose that, but I was unable to drag the new disk to the RAID set. And the "Rebuild" option was grayed out. Here are a few things that may complicate things: 1. This was a RAID10 configuration, in which I first created 2 pairs of mirrors and then striped them. Perhaps that configuration does not allow one to demote a drive or rebuild the RAID. 2. Before I created the RAID10, I partitioned each of the 4 drives into a big partition and a small partition. I created the RAID10 from the 4 large partitions. Perhaps your suggestion does not apply when partitions rather than entire disks are used to create the RAID. For now, I ended up putting the failing drive back in the enclosure. Do you have any other ideas about how to rebuild my RAID? I noticed that there was an option to automatically rebuild. It was a box that I could have checked when I first set up the RAID. Perhaps I should have selected that option. It looked like I could still check the box, but I did not want to mess things up further, so for now I left it unchecked. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions. Thanks, Gregg On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:12 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> What is the best way to "fix" the RAID10 array? > > Unmount the RAID, Turn off the enclosure. Remove the failing drive, replace > it with an identical drive, turn on the enclosure. > > Open up Disk Utility. Choose the missing drive on the left and then “Demote”. > > Drag the new disk into the raid set and chose “Rebuild”. > > You can also do it from the command line: > > sudo diskutil list > sudo diskutil appleraid list > sudo diskutil appleraid add member > > where disk4 is the new disk you just added and UUID is the UUID of the RAID > set. > > Note the UUID of the failed disk (listed in the appleraid list above) and > then: > > diskutil appleraid remove DISK-UUID RAID-UUID > > There is no need to turn off the computer. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: failing disk in RAID10 array
Hi LuKreme, Thank you very much for the detailed instructions. I see that I left out a few steps in my plan (e.g., "Demote" and "Rebuild"). I figured there were a few things like that, but I was not sure what they were. Thanks! Gregg > On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:12 PM, LuKreme wrote: > > >> On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> What is the best way to "fix" the RAID10 array? > > Unmount the RAID, Turn off the enclosure. Remove the failing drive, replace > it with an identical drive, turn on the enclosure. > > Open up Disk Utility. Choose the missing drive on the left and then “Demote”. > > Drag the new disk into the raid set and chose “Rebuild”. > > You can also do it from the command line: > > sudo diskutil list > sudo diskutil appleraid list > sudo diskutil appleraid add member > > where disk4 is the new disk you just added and UUID is the UUID of the RAID > set. > > Note the UUID of the failed disk (listed in the appleraid list above) and > then: > > diskutil appleraid remove DISK-UUID RAID-UUID > > There is no need to turn off the computer. > > -- > He'd never asked for an exciting life. What he really liked, what he > sought on every occasion, was boredom. The trouble was that boredom > tended to explode in your face. Just when he thought he'd found it he'd > be suddenly involved in what he supposed other people - thoughtless, > feckless people - would call an adventure. And he'd be forced to visit > many strange lands and meet exotic and colourful people, although not > for very long because usually he'd be running. He'd seen the creation of > the universe, although not from a good seat, and had visited Hell and > the afterlife. He'd been captured, imprisoned, rescued, lost and > marooned. Sometimes it had all happened on the same day. > > ___ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
failing disk in RAID10 array
Hi, I recently set up a RAID10 array by using Disk Utility in Mavericks (10.9.5) to create a stripe of two pairs of mirrored drives. According to SMART Utility, one of the disks is failing. What is the best way to "fix" the RAID10 array? The 4 disks are in an external enclosure, which is connected via thunderbolt to my new Mac Pro. Do I simply power down my Mac and the disk array, replace the failing disk with a different disk, and then power up my Mac and the disk array? Will the new disk be automatically incorporated into the RAID10 array? Do I need to do anything in Disk Utility or elsewhere? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: HELP -- I think I messed up 2 hard drives
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read the article that you linked. Although "user error" is always my first guess, it seems unlikely that twice in a row I mistakenly clicked on a button other than the one I intended, especially after messing up once. And if I clicked on the button I intended, then I'm still confused because I'm sure I have done this many times before without a problem, though I suppose something in the OS could have changed recently. Thanks again for responding. Maybe the article you cited will provide the answer, though I have not had time to read it yet. I really appreciate your willingness to help. Gregg On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Macs R We wrote: > From the symptoms, it sounds to me like you accidentally did something that > started the RAID (or other logical volume) process on that device. Now it’s > waiting to be combined with other devices to make up a logical volume. > > You may have to break out Terminal and dick with the “diskutil coreStorage” > suite in order to tell the system you want to revert it to an independent > volume. As long as you don’t accidentally target the wrong drive with any of > the commands, it’s not dangerous. I had to do this myself to roll my own > Fusion drive… and then unroll it again when the experiment failed miserably > ("Could not mount disk16 with name (null) after erase,” whatever the > that means). > > This article may give you a basic power-user's understanding of how Logical > Volume Groups are structured, at least enough for you to do the task ahead of > you. > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When I want to re-use a hard drive for a new purpose, I open Disk Utility >> and click the Partition tab. Then I choose how many partitions I want, >> their sizes, and their names. I don't know how I got into the habit of >> doing this next step, but next I click on the Erase tab and give the same >> disk name. Today I did this and had problems, even though it has always >> worked fine in the past. I am running 10.9.5 and the disks are inside a >> 2012 Mac Pro. >> >> Typically in Disk Utility, each disk has a primary entry on the left of the >> main window, which gives the total size of the disk, the brand, and the >> model, such as "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". And then each partition has its >> own line, which shows the name of the partition. And lots of useful >> information is given at the bottom of the window. >> >> Earlier today, I re-created a single partition on a 3-TB drive and gave it >> the name "Disk_1". Then I erased the disk and gave it the same name >> (Disk_1). This is when the trouble started. At this point, both the main >> line and the indented line showed the same name (Disk_1), rather than the >> primary line showing something like "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". >> >> Also, when the primary line is selected, the bottom of the window shows 0 >> Bytes available and 3 TB used, even though that is not the case. If I click >> on the indented line, it says 2.99 TB available and 10 GB used, which sounds >> right. Also, when I click on the primary line, the Type is listed as >> Logical Volume Group rather than something like SATA Internal. >> >> I have tried to repair the disk, but this does not help. I don't see any >> errors, though the listing is longer than usual. When I select the primary >> line, I only get 2 tabs (First Aid and Partition) rather than the usual 5 >> tabs (First Aid, Erase, Partition, RAID, Restore). And if I click on >> Partition, everything is greyed out -- I can't choose a new partition >> layout, or name, or size, nor can I click on the Options button or the >> Revert button. >> >> I do not think the disk itself is bad (or at least not before I started >> mucking with it), so I tried a second disk and had even worse results. I >> wondered if the name "Disk_1" was a bad choice, since perhaps it is reserved >> for use by the system (though if so, I would hope the system would warn me >> not to use that name). So I called this one HD_2. This time, when things >> looked to be going bad in the same way, I clicked on a Cancel button, hoping >> to prevent the same problem. But this must have made a worse mess. Now I >> only have a main entry, and again it says "HD_2" rather than something like >> "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". Also, it again says "Logical Volume Group" >> rather than SATA Internal. And there is no second, indented li
HELP -- I think I messed up 2 hard drives
Hi, When I want to re-use a hard drive for a new purpose, I open Disk Utility and click the Partition tab. Then I choose how many partitions I want, their sizes, and their names. I don't know how I got into the habit of doing this next step, but next I click on the Erase tab and give the same disk name. Today I did this and had problems, even though it has always worked fine in the past. I am running 10.9.5 and the disks are inside a 2012 Mac Pro. Typically in Disk Utility, each disk has a primary entry on the left of the main window, which gives the total size of the disk, the brand, and the model, such as "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". And then each partition has its own line, which shows the name of the partition. And lots of useful information is given at the bottom of the window. Earlier today, I re-created a single partition on a 3-TB drive and gave it the name "Disk_1". Then I erased the disk and gave it the same name (Disk_1). This is when the trouble started. At this point, both the main line and the indented line showed the same name (Disk_1), rather than the primary line showing something like "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". Also, when the primary line is selected, the bottom of the window shows 0 Bytes available and 3 TB used, even though that is not the case. If I click on the indented line, it says 2.99 TB available and 10 GB used, which sounds right. Also, when I click on the primary line, the Type is listed as Logical Volume Group rather than something like SATA Internal. I have tried to repair the disk, but this does not help. I don't see any errors, though the listing is longer than usual. When I select the primary line, I only get 2 tabs (First Aid and Partition) rather than the usual 5 tabs (First Aid, Erase, Partition, RAID, Restore). And if I click on Partition, everything is greyed out -- I can't choose a new partition layout, or name, or size, nor can I click on the Options button or the Revert button. I do not think the disk itself is bad (or at least not before I started mucking with it), so I tried a second disk and had even worse results. I wondered if the name "Disk_1" was a bad choice, since perhaps it is reserved for use by the system (though if so, I would hope the system would warn me not to use that name). So I called this one HD_2. This time, when things looked to be going bad in the same way, I clicked on a Cancel button, hoping to prevent the same problem. But this must have made a worse mess. Now I only have a main entry, and again it says "HD_2" rather than something like "3 TB Seagate ST33000651AS". Also, it again says "Logical Volume Group" rather than SATA Internal. And there is no second, indented line! As before, there are only 2 tabs rather than 5. And if I click on the Partition tab, everything is greyed out, so I can't do anything. What have I done? Is there some way to fix my disks? I tried copying a large file to Disk_1 and it seemed to work. But something sure seems messed up. And I don't know how to rename or repartition these disks. I sure don't trust them in their current state. By the way, somewhere in this process I remember seeing a message about an encrypted disk, but I did not intentially do anything with encryption (now or ever). I don't know if that is related. Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: TimeMachine backups to networked mac? -- SOLVED
Hi, Thank you to everyone who offered me help with this problem. I think that things are now working. There were at least 2 things that I was probably doing wrong: 1. My old mac pro has 4 internal hard drives and one of them was already set up as a TimeMachine disk to back up the other internal drives, but I had never done any network backups. I had simply tried pointing TimeMachine on the new mac pro to this existing TimeMachine disk (after sharing it). A few minutes ago, I decided to erase a different disk and make it (temporarily) the TimeMachine disk on the old mac pro. 2. I had not previously mounted the old mac pro's TimeMachine disk in the Finder of the new mac pro, at least not at the same time that I was trying to set up TimeMachine backups. After doing both of these things, the old mac pro's TimeMachine disk showed up as a possible target for Time Machine on the new mac pro. I chose it and tried doing a quick backup, which seemed to work. I then unmounted the old mac pro's TimeMachine disk in the Finder of the new mac pro and did a second quick backup. That also seemed to work. Thanks to all of you who offered help, and especially those who mentioned these steps that I had not tried earlier. I still may end up buying OS X Server, but for now I think this will work without it. Gregg On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: >> >> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: >>> >>> The first time any device on your network downloads something cacheable, it >>> will then be cached. Any other devices that need the same update will >>> automatically pull from the caching server. >> >> So…I don’t need to download the updates from the machine running Server? I >> can download them on my laptop and they get automatically posted up to the >> Server? What do I need to do for my other machines and iDevices to find the >> updates once they are on the caching Server. >> >> This will be a great boon to me…we live full time in an RV and bandwidth is >> both limited and expensive…so downloading once would be great. I already do >> this manually for OS X updates but being able to do it for iOS would be >> great. > > All you need to do for your other devices to find the updates is run Software > Update. That's it. Literally. > > http://help.apple.com/serverapp/mac/4.0/#/apd74DDE89F-08D2-4E0A-A5CD-155E345EFB83 > > I should stipulate that this is the Caching service. There used to be a > Software Update service in older versions of OS X Server (referenced in the > above documentation) that was less flexible and more complicated. > > -Andy ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: TimeMachine backups to networked mac?
Hi, I don't mind spending $20 for OS X server, though I was wondering how difficult it would be to set up what I want. I'm certain no expert. In your opinion, is it fairly easy for a non-expert to set up the remote TimeMachine backups with OX X server? Thanks for your help, Gregg On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Macs R We wrote: > I did this for years by manually mounting the remote volume, running the > initial backup, and then dismounting. Turn out that Time Machine is smart > enough to mount the remote volume by itself after that. > > However, I ran into this pernicious bug where the machine hosting the drive > would begin losing the count of network detachments from file sharing, while > keeping scrupulous count of the network attachments. After a while, it would > decide that more than 10 users were simultaneously filesharing from it, and > refuse to allow any more. I would have to turn off File Sharing on that > machine for 30 seconds to flush the counter, then turn it back on. It got to > the point where I was doing this every day or two, and the bug survived > several major OSes. So I took the plunge and ordered the Server version of > the OS. (That was back in Snow Leopard — now the Server is more of an > additional application package you install on the standard OS.) > > The bad news is that this reduced the problem, but didn’t eliminate it, at > least in Snow Leopard. The better news is that since Mountain Lion or so, I > haven’t seen that particular problem. Since then, I’ve found other value to > running Server, including preserving the ability for my family to continue to > use shared calendars (after Apple killed Sync Services in Lion) without being > forced to blow all the details of our lives out to “the cloud,” and the > ability to suck down system updates only once instead of once for every > machine we own. So in my opinion, for the minor price of the package, if > you’re going to run a machine as “a server,” run Server. > > On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a new Mac Pro (cylinder style) and an old Mac Pro (tower style), both >> running the latest Mavericks. I would like to set up a disk on the old mac >> pro that can be used for TimeMachine backups of the new mac pro. How do I >> do this? >> >> Both macs are connected via gigabit ethernet to the same router. I can >> successfully do screen sharing and file sharing. I thought perhaps I just >> needed to share my TimeMachine disk on the old mac (via the File Sharing >> panel in System Preferences), but when I tried this, I could not see that >> disk when choosing a TimeMachine disk on the new mac. I could only see >> disks that are directly attached to the new mac. >> >> Is it possible to do TimeMachine backups of one mac to a disk on another mac >> via ethernet? If so, what do I need to do? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: TimeMachine backups to networked mac?
Hi Arno, Under File Sharing in System Preferences, I have the box checked for AFP (under Options). I will tinker some more -- I haven't spent much time on it yet. If necessary, I can try your command line solution. Thanks for the help. Gregg On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Arno Hautala wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: >> >> 2. Open Terminal on the new Mac Pro and type this (or copy/paste): >> defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1 >> >> Time Machine will only back up to "supported" volumes. The only way to do >> that over a network like you want is with OS X Server. But you certainly can >> use unsupported volumes as in No. 2 above. I've done that for years without >> incident, but beware, it is a little bit of a "hack." > > AFP shares are "supported" volumes (it's how they're mounted from > TimeCapsules), so there shouldn't be any need to use the defaults > write command. It would be required for other share types like SMB. > > How is the "old Mac" being shared? Is it via AFP? I know Apple is > deprecating AFP, but it's still there specifically for TimeMachine so > I would think you should be able to share the "old Mac" this way. > > Was the "old Mac" mounted on the "new Mac" when you tried to set up > TimeMachine? This may be required. > > If you still can't get the "old Mac" to show as a TimeMachine target, > you can try manually specifying the TimeMachine target on the command > line: > >> sudo tmutil setdestination -p afp://gregg@oldMac/timeMachineShare > > "-p" means you'll be prompted for the password rather than including > it in the destination address (afp://greg:password@...) > > More info here: > https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/Manpages/man8/tmutil.8.html > > -- > arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu > > pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: TimeMachine backups to networked mac?
Hi Andy, Thanks for your quick response. I googled my question and found answers similar to yours. I don't mind spending $20 for OS X server if that is the best way to go, but several people echoed your concern that it was complicated and messy, so I don't relish that. On the other hand, several people warned about using the defaults write command to allow unsupported volumes, so I am hesitant to use that. I'll wait a little longer and see what other replies I get before I decide. Thanks, Gregg On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have a new Mac Pro (cylinder style) and an old Mac Pro (tower style), both >> running the latest Mavericks. I would like to set up a disk on the old mac >> pro that can be used for TimeMachine backups of the new mac pro. How do I >> do this? >> >> Both macs are connected via gigabit ethernet to the same router. I can >> successfully do screen sharing and file sharing. I thought perhaps I just >> needed to share my TimeMachine disk on the old mac (via the File Sharing >> panel in System Preferences), but when I tried this, I could not see that >> disk when choosing a TimeMachine disk on the new mac. I could only see >> disks that are directly attached to the new mac. >> >> Is it possible to do TimeMachine backups of one mac to a disk on another mac >> via ethernet? If so, what do I need to do? > > Two ways. > > 1. Purchase the $19.99 OS X Server package and set that up on the old Mac > Pro, which includes a feature that'll do exactly what you want. > > But OS X Server is somewhat complicated and messy. > > 2. Open Terminal on the new Mac Pro and type this (or copy/paste): > > defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1 > > Time Machine will only back up to "supported" volumes. The only way to do > that over a network like you want is with OS X Server. But you certainly can > use unsupported volumes as in No. 2 above. I've done that for years without > incident, but beware, it is a little bit of a "hack." > > -Andy ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
TimeMachine backups to networked mac?
Hi, I have a new Mac Pro (cylinder style) and an old Mac Pro (tower style), both running the latest Mavericks. I would like to set up a disk on the old mac pro that can be used for TimeMachine backups of the new mac pro. How do I do this? Both macs are connected via gigabit ethernet to the same router. I can successfully do screen sharing and file sharing. I thought perhaps I just needed to share my TimeMachine disk on the old mac (via the File Sharing panel in System Preferences), but when I tried this, I could not see that disk when choosing a TimeMachine disk on the new mac. I could only see disks that are directly attached to the new mac. Is it possible to do TimeMachine backups of one mac to a disk on another mac via ethernet? If so, what do I need to do? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: a few Apple RAID questions
Hi Neil, Thanks for responding and thanks for confirming that the 32K block size should be fine. I think I'll stick with that. As for my RAID partitioning question, I have a feeling that MacOS does it the opposite of how you say Windows does it. When I have a non-RAIDed single disk, there is a tab for partitioning it. When I was creating the RAID set, I believe that the instructions said I could drag either the entire disk/volume to the RAID set or just a partition. But once the RAID set was finalized, there was no longer a partition tab, either when selecting the entire RAID set or the individual components, so it did not appear that the RAID set could be partitioned. Thus, if I am remembering correctly, it sounds like partitions can be RAIDed, but that RAIDs can not be partitioned, at least via Disk Utility in Mavericks. Of course, I'm hoping to be wrong about the latter, so perhaps someone else will chime in. Thanks, Gregg On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > On Oct 26, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> 1. When creating the RAID sets, there was an option to choose the block >> size. The choices were 16K, 32K, 64K, 128K, or 256K. When the panel came >> up, it was set to 32K, which I assume is the default. I left it at 32K, but >> I was just wondering what value others might recommend. I know it depends >> on what I do with my Mac Pro, but I just wanted to make sure that 32K was a >> reasonable choice. I work with large videos once in a while, but rarely. >> Usually I just work with small files. Is 32K a good choice? > > Depends on the size of files your normally write…if lots of small files then > the 32K is better as you’ll have less wasted space as it is only assigned in > full blocks. Writing a 100 byte file uses up one block…be it 16K or 256K. > More blocks is more overhead by a little…but the drive controller will really > only notice it if you are writing really large files…that should be a bit > slower on smaller block size. > > Nothing wrong with 32K AFAIK. >> >> 2. I was thinking that I would create this RAID10 "disk" and then partition >> it, but there is no partition tab in Disk Utility for the RAID set. Is >> there a way to partition the 6-TB array, or do I have to start over and >> partition all 4 individual drives and then combine the various pieces into >> separate RAID sets? That sounds painful. > > I don’t think you can RAID partitions; IIRC the RAID process talks to the > drive at a lower level and uses the whole drive. I’ve never built a RAID on a > Mac…but when I was a Windows sysadmin we RAIDed and then partitioned into > what we needed all the time. > > Once you get the RAID built…did you try looking not on the RAID tab but on > the tab that shows all the drives. At that point (at least under Windows, as > I said I’ve not done it on a Mac) the RAID should show up as a single drive > and if you select the RAID instead of the individual mechanisms you should be > able to assign multiple partitions. > > --- > There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking > stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello. > > neil ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
a few Apple RAID questions
Hi, I just bought a new Mac Pro and a 4-bay thunderbolt hard drive enclosure. I used four 3-TB drives and Apple's Disk Utility to create a 6-TB array, which I believe is the equivalent of a RAID10 set. First I created 2 mirrors (3-TB each), and then I striped those to obtain a 6-TB array. I think that a stripe of mirrors is supposed to be a RAID10 set. I have 2 questions: 1. When creating the RAID sets, there was an option to choose the block size. The choices were 16K, 32K, 64K, 128K, or 256K. When the panel came up, it was set to 32K, which I assume is the default. I left it at 32K, but I was just wondering what value others might recommend. I know it depends on what I do with my Mac Pro, but I just wanted to make sure that 32K was a reasonable choice. I work with large videos once in a while, but rarely. Usually I just work with small files. Is 32K a good choice? 2. I was thinking that I would create this RAID10 "disk" and then partition it, but there is no partition tab in Disk Utility for the RAID set. Is there a way to partition the 6-TB array, or do I have to start over and partition all 4 individual drives and then combine the various pieces into separate RAID sets? That sounds painful. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
can Disk Utility be used to create RAID10?
Hi, I have a 2012 Mac Pro tower (with 4 drive bays), running MacOSX 10.9.4 (the latest version of Mavericks). Can I use Apple's Disk Utility to create a RAID10 disk array? That is, could I put 4 equal-sized hard drives in the Mac Pro tower and then use Disk Utility to create a RAID10 setup, which is a stripe of mirrors? If this is possible, should it be nearly as good as a commercial software RAID solution, as long as I am happy with RAID10 and do not care about RAID5 or RAID6? I know that Disk Utility does RAID0 and RAID1, but I do not know whether it can be used to combine those software RAIDs. For example, suppose my 4 hard drives are named Disk1, Disk2, Disk3, and Disk4. I was wondering if I could use Disk Utility to combine Disk1 and Disk2 (via RAID1) into Mirror1, and likewise combine Disk3 and Disk4 (via RAID1) into Mirror2, and then combine Mirror1 and Mirror2 (via RAID0) into StripedDisk. In particular, if all disks are 3 TB, then I was hoping to end up with a 6-TB RAID10 disk array, which would be a stripe of two 3-TB mirrors. If this is possible, would you trust it? I figure all disks must be the same size, but do they have to be identical? In my case, they would all be Seagates and all have the same nominal sizes and speeds, but the exact models (and therefore exact sizes to the byte) might differ. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: please recommend a laser printer -- FOLLOWUP
Hi, I just wanted to follow-up on my original post. Several people recommended Brother printers, and that is what I ended up getting. I decided to get a mono laser printer rather than a color laser printer. For one thing, I already have a color inkjet printer. Also, it seems that there may be more possibilities for something to go wrong on a color laser printer; the cost of replacing media is pretty high; and the price of a good one is probably a lot higher than for a good mono. Specifically, I bought a Brother HL-2280DW. I looked at the HL-2270DW (just printer), which is very popular and highly rated, but I ended up getting the HL-2280DW (print/copy/scan) for the same price. I did not really want another all-in-one (since I already have an inkjet all-in-one), but the HL-2280DW is really low profile, mainly because it does not have a paper feeder. To me, it appears to have the same specs (and maybe be the same printer) as the HL-2270DW, except for it being a few inches taller because of the scanner (it maybe adds 3" in height, but does not change the footprint). The Brother HL-2280DW has auto-duplex and allows both wired and wireless (and USB) connections -- I think the DW means "duplex" and "wired" (I don't know what HL means). I looked briefly at a few HPs, but I did not like their looks as much, they did not have auto-duplex for those in the same price range, and they appeared more flimsy. If anyone is interested, the list price for the Brother HL-2280DW is $200, but it's on sale for $100 this week at Staples. Other places have them from $130 to $150. It may be discounted because a newer model is probably coming out soon. They just released a new version of the HL-2270DW (I think it's the HL-2360DW), so perhaps the HL-2280DW will also be updated soon. I have used it for 2 days, and so far it seems pretty good. My main complaint is that the output is not as easy to grab as with a plain printer. If you care about the scanner/copier features, this seems like a great deal. If you do not care about those, it might be better to go with the HL-2270DW (or HL-2360DW), since the lack of a scanner allows one to access the output much easier. I will probably stick with the HL-2280DW, but I wanted to point out this one minor inconvenience. It was very easy to set up in Mavericks. It was recognized in the printer module of System Preferences and the drivers were downloaded when I selected it. I also set it up on my wife's iMac running Mountain Lion. This was not as simple, since I had to go to the Brother web site and download drivers (and figure out where to find them when installing the printer manually), but I eventually got it working just fine. Thanks to all who made suggestions. I appreciate your help. Gregg On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:18 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] wrote: > Hi, > > I need to buy a laser printer that works well with the latest MacOSX. Can > you please recommend one (or more)? > > I'm not sure whether I want a color laser printer or a black and white, so > please feel free to give me advice on the pros and cons of each. > > I have a color inkjet, so I don't have to get a color laser printer. My > guess is that the inkjet ink will smear more if wet, but perhaps the color > will look better (at least with photos). On the other hand, I expect that > the clarity of the laser printer text is better. Mostly, I use the color > inkjet for photos and the odd text page with color on it, and I use our old > black and white laser for most text. Unfortunately, I have to replace the > old (and I mean old, HP LaserJet 5M) laser printer. > > In general, are black and white laser printers more reliable than color laser > printers, or are they about equal? > > What about consumables? I assume the color toner cartridges cost more than > the color inkjet cartridges, but they probably also last longer. Is this a > wash, or is one much less expensive to operate than the other in the long run? > > My old laser printer connects via ethernet, but we have WiFi as well. Is > printing faster or more reliable via ethernet? > > Any advice on what to buy, or what to avoid, would be much appreciated. > Thanks, > > Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
what is a "converted" .mov file?
Hi, Yesterday I doubled-clicked on a .mov file and rather than simply opening in QuickTime, it went through a lengthy conversion process. The resulting "converted" file is twice as large. This was an HD video that went from 20 GB to 40 GB, so it could add up if I convert a bunch of these. Does anyone know what this is doing? I did a "get info" on both files. Both are 1920 x 1080 and say "HD (1-1-1)", but under Codecs the original said "Apple Intermediate Codec, Linear PCM" and the converted one said "Apple ProRes 422, Linear PCM". Is the converted one better in some way, or just larger? If not better, is there a way to play the original without converting? Just before clicking the send button, I decided to google my question. I found this Apple support article: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6055?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US Apparently QuickTime in Mavericks automatically converts media files that use older or third-party codecs. I'm pretty sure my original .mov file was created by importing my camcorder's AVCHD (.MTS) files into Apple's own iPhoto, from which I obtained the .mov file. This appears to be new with Mavericks. I don't mind waiting for the conversion, but I don't like the doubling in size. Is there any way around that? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: please recommend a laser printer
Hi Neil, I will look into a few of the Brother printers, probably black and white. Thanks for the help. Gregg On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > On Aug 12, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to buy a laser printer that works well with the latest MacOSX. Can >> you please recommend one (or more)? >> >> I'm not sure whether I want a color laser printer or a black and white, so >> please feel free to give me advice on the pros and cons of each. > > Color Lasers are nice but cost more then B&W. Don’t know if they cost more > than using an inkjet but for printing photos and such the ink jets are > generally better output than a color laser. > > I have a Brother B&W that works wonderfully. It’s an HL-5250DN but pretty > much all the Brother models print the same so it’s just a matter of what > networking, duplex, and speed features you want. >> >> I have a color inkjet, so I don't have to get a color laser printer. My >> guess is that the inkjet ink will smear more if wet, but perhaps the color >> will look better (at least with photos). On the other hand, I expect that >> the clarity of the laser printer text is better. Mostly, I use the color >> inkjet for photos and the odd text page with color on it, and I use our old >> black and white laser for most text. Unfortunately, I have to replace the >> old (and I mean old, HP LaserJet 5M) laser printer. >> >> In general, are black and white laser printers more reliable than color >> laser printers, or are they about equal? > > From my experience with them at work (albeit I retired 2 years ago)…color > ones are more temperamental and have way more moving parts so are a bigger > maintenance issue. >> >> What about consumables? I assume the color toner cartridges cost more than >> the color inkjet cartridges, but they probably also last longer. Is this a >> wash, or is one much less expensive to operate than the other in the long >> run? > Color more expensive but in the long run probably mostly a wash compared to > ink jet models…but I didn’t do any serious research on it. It’s probably 50 > or 60 bucks a year one way or the other…which is in the weeds. > >> My old laser printer connects via ethernet, but we have WiFi as well. Is >> printing faster or more reliable via ethernet? > > Either works fine assuming where you put the printer but I prefer to have > mine hard wired. Most printing jobs are relatively small anyway so it isn’t a > speed issue at all…just personal preference. > > neil ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
please recommend a laser printer
Hi, I need to buy a laser printer that works well with the latest MacOSX. Can you please recommend one (or more)? I'm not sure whether I want a color laser printer or a black and white, so please feel free to give me advice on the pros and cons of each. I have a color inkjet, so I don't have to get a color laser printer. My guess is that the inkjet ink will smear more if wet, but perhaps the color will look better (at least with photos). On the other hand, I expect that the clarity of the laser printer text is better. Mostly, I use the color inkjet for photos and the odd text page with color on it, and I use our old black and white laser for most text. Unfortunately, I have to replace the old (and I mean old, HP LaserJet 5M) laser printer. In general, are black and white laser printers more reliable than color laser printers, or are they about equal? What about consumables? I assume the color toner cartridges cost more than the color inkjet cartridges, but they probably also last longer. Is this a wash, or is one much less expensive to operate than the other in the long run? My old laser printer connects via ethernet, but we have WiFi as well. Is printing faster or more reliable via ethernet? Any advice on what to buy, or what to avoid, would be much appreciated. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: should I expect hard drive trouble?
I'm sure I am worrying needlessly, but I just thought I'd ask. The drives are encased in plastic, but the plastic containers were then placed in over-sized boxes with only a few of those inflatable balloons around it. The drives looks well protected, but the plastic containers looked like they could bounce around a lot in the larger boxes. One box was crumpled on a corner, but there is no visible damage to the drive or its plastic container. I just wondered about having the drives bounce around. I spoke to a friend, though, and he said that as long as the drives are powered off, the heads are parked in a very secure manner, so they should not get damaged. That made me feel much better. I have not even unwrapped the drives yet. I will do that soon and try them out. It sounds like all should be OK, as long as the drives spin up fine initially. The drives were from Tiger Direct. Thanks, Gregg On Aug 6, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Arno Hautala wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] > wrote: >> >> I recently bought a pair of internal 4-TB hard drives from an online vendor. >> It looks like they probably bounced around a lot during shipping. Should I >> expect problems? > > What evedice is there that they bounced around? Damaged external or > internal packaging? How were they package? Bubble wrap? Cardboard > padding? If the drives appear physically damaged I'd be tempted to > just return them outright. > >> That is, if they don't work right from the start, then obviously I should >> get them replaced. But what if they seem to work at first? My guess is >> that it's not a perfect binary situation, where they either are obviously >> bad or obviously fine. Can they be damaged and have the effects of that >> damage show up slowly over time? Is there any simple test (or set of tests) >> that I can do right at the beginning, before I deploy them? > > If they spin up you're probably fine. Regardless, you probably have a > year or two to return them under RMA if anything goes wrong; no > different than if they arrived in seemingly perfect condition. > > Overall, I'd probably just try them. > > Which vendor? > > -- > arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu > > pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
should I expect hard drive trouble?
Hi, I recently bought a pair of internal 4-TB hard drives from an online vendor. It looks like they probably bounced around a lot during shipping. Should I expect problems? That is, if they don't work right from the start, then obviously I should get them replaced. But what if they seem to work at first? My guess is that it's not a perfect binary situation, where they either are obviously bad or obviously fine. Can they be damaged and have the effects of that damage show up slowly over time? Is there any simple test (or set of tests) that I can do right at the beginning, before I deploy them? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: will Seagate ST4000DM000 hard drive work in Mac Pro tower?
Hi Charles, Mike, and LuKreme, Thanks for the quick response. And I'm glad you all agree! :) I had never worried about this before, but for some reason the comments on this drive got me wondering if it would have problems in a Mac Pro. Thanks again, Gregg On Jul 24, 2014, at 11:37 PM, Charles Dyer wrote: > Your Mac should not have any problem. On Jul 25, 2014, at 12:46 AM, mikecap wrote: > I have two in my 2008 Mac Pro and they work fine, all 4TB, no problem. On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:21 AM, LuKreme wrote: > No. >> On 24 Jul 2014, at 21:06 , Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am thinking about buying a 4-TB internal Seagate hard drive, model >> ST4000DM000. >> >> Many of the comments I read online make it sound like Windows machines only >> see 2-TB of this 4-TB drive. I did not see anything about macs. Do I need >> to worry about this on my 2012 Mac Pro tower? >> >> Does anyone have this drive running on their mac, and giving them all 4 TB? >> I'd just like some confirmation before buying one of these. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
will Seagate ST4000DM000 hard drive work in Mac Pro tower?
Hi, I am thinking about buying a 4-TB internal Seagate hard drive, model ST4000DM000. Many of the comments I read online make it sound like Windows machines only see 2-TB of this 4-TB drive. I did not see anything about macs. Do I need to worry about this on my 2012 Mac Pro tower? Does anyone have this drive running on their mac, and giving them all 4 TB? I'd just like some confirmation before buying one of these. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk