RE: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread Brian Leach
When we advise clients on GUI, we always advise a divide and conquer approach. It is amazing just how small a percentage of a system actually needs to be GUItized, once you have partitioned out the business rules, report and (strange) user menus, admin facilities etc. Use a regular report desig

UOJ: Iconv Date Picker Issue

2004-04-19 Thread Morawa, Hans
I'm having a problem input converting a date derived from using the data picker (DTPicker) component, the following code, tmpRecordArray.Value(1, 1) = session.Iconv(DTPicker1.Value, "D4/") returns a status of 1 (the string supplied is invalid). When I display it using the message box (Msgbox DT

[ADMIN] [AD] Passing the Baton

2004-04-19 Thread Clif Oliver
Dear Friends, As previously announced, after about nine years of hosting what has become the u2-users list, I have decided to pass the baton to a new host. I plan to use the time to pursue some other writing projects. One of these is to resume writing my column previously published in Infocus

Re: Iconv Date Picker Issue

2004-04-19 Thread Thomas Sprenger
Hans, I dont know anything about DTPicker, but your date seems to have the format DD/MM/(European format). Therefore you should try to supply the format "D4/E" (or simpler "DE") to your Iconv-function. Maybe thats worth a try. Thomas - Original Message - From: "Morawa, Hans" <[EMAIL

[OT] Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread CWNoah2
Well, let's see... the new car automatically unlocks all the doors when I get in (my wife thinks the carjackers'll love that one), I have to stand on the brake pedal to get it to start, the window decides for itself to go all the way down when I just want it down a crack, and the turning radius

RE: [OT] Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread Les Hewkin
And it was YOU that bought it! m coffee... need more.. Les :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2004 11:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports Well, let's see... the

RE: [OT] Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread Anthony Youngman
And the mirror is designed to detach safely to avoid damage - except putting it back after it's detached itself is one of the easiest ways to break it ... Been there, done that, £30 repair bill coming up to fix my wife's mirror that I walked into by mistake ... And my daughter's car had that fa

Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread Results
Brian, As a graphical programmer, I couldn't agree with you more. As an MV programmer, I couldn't agree with you more. GUI has its place, especially with infrequent users. Green screen has its place, especially with heads-down users. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.Ke

Re: GUI from Mv code - Tools

2004-04-19 Thread Lee Bacall
Will and others, Original point... use them? That's the sticking point. (Will Johnson) > Yes the tools are out there, some of them are truly exceptional, and a few have a short learning curve. We have worked with Pete Schellenbach at Accuterm for many years and found it be a rock-solid product

Re: can we stop with the pointless displays? was Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread Glenn Herbert
I believe I added this option years ago... try using DET.SUP or DET-SUPP. At 06:29 PM 4/17/2004, you wrote: In a message dated 4/17/2004 7:35:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > and had to watch the compiler meticulously display those line-by > line asterisks during compiling.

RE: Iconv Date Picker Issue (Resolved)

2004-04-19 Thread Morawa, Hans
Thomas, That did the trick. Thanks, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Sprenger Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 5:41 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Iconv Date Picker Issue Hans, I dont know anything about DTPicker,

RE: Database decoupling (Was: Future of U2)

2004-04-19 Thread Jon Wells
Sounds a bit like the Coyote Web Server [ http://coyote.easyco.com/ ] This functionality would be a great thing to add to the Maverick project. At 07:41 AM 4/17/2004, you wrote: That's my point. In one sense I see what Will means. There are a lot of U2 shops out there that are happy as can be w

problem with VLIST

2004-04-19 Thread Radosław Ryckowski
Hello ! I'll got very strange thing with VLIST. I have external program which crash with fault 11, so I use VLIST and here is strange thig. Vlist give me information about length , object compilatr etc. but when try to list first line of code crash with fault 11. Layer type is Unknown. Universe

Re: problem with VLIST

2004-04-19 Thread chris
try re-compiling and cataloging the file. Chris Rados?aw Ryckowski wrote: Hello ! I'll got very strange thing with VLIST. I have external program which crash with fault 11, so I use VLIST and here is strange thig. Vlist give me information about length , object compilatr etc. but when try to

RE: problem with VLIST

2004-04-19 Thread Gyle Iverson
>Rados³aw Ryckowski wrote: >I have external program which crash with fault 11, so I use VLIST >and here is strange thig. Vlist give me information about length , >object compilatr etc. but when try to list first line of code >crash with fault 11. Layer type is Unknown. >Universe verison is 9.6.1

Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS

2004-04-19 Thread Joe Walter
Having a strange problem at a client site. There sysadmins upgraded the server running Universe from NT4 to Windows 2003 Small Business Server. Everything seemed OK, until regular domain users tried to login to universe. It seems to accept username/password but then telnet session terminates imm

RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS

2004-04-19 Thread Mike Dallaire
Joe, We have seen similar problems in the past when NT user setups were copied over. We had to re-enter the users on Windows to get them to work. You might try setting up a new user in the user group and see if you can log in. If that works, you probably will need to set up the users from scratch

RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS

2004-04-19 Thread alfkec
Here are the notes that I have been using (for UD): Open AD Users and Computers. Create a Global group Add members to group accordingly, then assign directory rights accordingly. Click Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools and click Domain Controller Security Policy. Double click the Security

[UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread Steve Ferries
HI All, Would someone please point out what I'm doing wrong with the following? I am trying to extract the 'hello' field from the attribute below: 0059 }}}hello|13236|13226|13}E55}12478}}12657 I have tried this: 001 A 002 0 003 LTR NAME 004 005 006 007 008 F;0;(TDLT;X4;;59);X4;(G1\1) 0

RE: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Schasny
001 I 002 FIELD(@RECORD<59,4>,'|',1,1) 003 004 LAST.LTR.NAME 005 12L 006 S -Original Message- From: Steve Ferries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field HI All, Would someone please poi

Re: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread chris
try... 001 I 002 @RECORD<59,4,1> 003 004 LAST.LTR.NAME 005 12L 006 S HTH Chris Steve Ferries wrote: HI All, Would someone please point out what I'm doing wrong with the following? I am trying to extract the 'hello' field from the attribute below: 0059 }}}hello|13236|13226|13}E55}12478}

RE: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Schasny
Oh... were those subvalues or pipes? -Original Message- From: chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:16 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field try... 001 I 002 @RECORD<59,4,1> 003 004 LAST.LTR.NAME 005 12L 006

Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 12:31:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The reason why you need that special view (20L vs 12L) is because you are > constrained by your 132 column printer (or 240 cols). > > As a cube uses the screen as it's canvas, which has a scroll bar, you

Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 12:51:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In truth I have found the fear to be more in the hearts of the IT > person who has tweaked the system over the past 15+ years and is insulted > that their masterpiece is being considered a dinosaur ready f

RE: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread Steve Ferries
HI Jeff, Sub-values. Steve -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:42 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field Oh... were those subvalues or pipes? -Original Message- From:

RE: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread Steve Ferries
Perfect! Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:16 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field try... 001 I 002 @RECORD<59,4,1> 003 004 LAST.LTR.NAME 005 12L 006 S HTH Chris

Re: Drilling cubes was Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 1:34:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Now, would anyone care to post any experiences on performance of > implementing a star schema in a set of normalized U2 files and doing > drill down and roll up strictly with LIST, SORT, and its > option

Re: GUI from Mv code - Tools

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 8:09:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Both GUI and green screen environments within Nucleus are supported with ONE > set of application code, data structures are based on data dictionaries. > The learning path is upward, not tangental and is ba

GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
I haven't gotten through all of the postings in the GUI thread as yet, but am working on the question of how to write a GUI that is as good as a "green screen" from the perspective of folks currently using a green screen application. I saw hints at that, but nothing that tackled it from the standp

Re: [UV] - Dictionary Item for Multi-valued field

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 1:03:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 0059 }}}hello|13236|13226|13}E55}12478}}12657 > > I have tried this: > > 001 A > 002 0 > 003 LTR NAME > 004 > 005 > 006 > 007 > 008 F;0;(TDLT;X4;;59);X4;(G1\1) > 009 R > 010 12 Change G1\1 to G0|

Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
Clarify. Are you talking about *within* the mv environment? Or an outside app? Accuterm has the ability to recognize where a mouse-click is in regards to (col, row). This is the same col, row that PRINT @ uses. Now if your mv programs have a single, standard INPUT subroutine then you can simp

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Mark Johnson
Dawn: Good luck in your search for this holy grail. Lemme know if such a silver bullet is found. I've been hunting for years. Mark Johnson Original Message - From: "Dawn M. Wolthuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: GUI as nice as

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Buffington, Wyatt
We have been using a product called SmarTerm from Esker. It allows us to displays screen close to GUI that is easily configureable by the end user with little to no programming. It allows for HotSpots which appear as a button on the screen which the user can click on. Buttons are a list of things t

RE: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
Does the requirement to have no client-side setup (other than pointing a user to a web page in a std web browser) eliminate accuterm or not? If not, then does this permit drop-down boxes, combo boxes, calendars for date entry and the usual icons one might expect for various features? I'm talking

RE: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy Harkin
FYI, MS has changed the secedit command in 2003. To force a policy refresh, the command is gpupdate. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/p roddocs/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windowsserv/2003/stan dard/proddocs/en-us/RefrGP.asp Regards, T

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
Ah, I should add or modify one of the requirements -- when I indicated that there needs to be no setup on the client, I should put that in the "client tier" and consider citrix servers to be application clients, of sorts. So, for my purposes (though not for everyone), a citrix server is not an opt

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Schasny
My former employer Intuit Eclipse has successfully implemented a Java front end ("Solar Eclipse"... get it, Sun... Java... Solar, Arrgh) for their distribution ERP system. The nice part is that you can use any combibnation of GUI and character interface you like. For example, the guys in the w

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Jon Wells
A friend of ours works for H&R Block. We had some questions regarding taxes and found out that H&R would let her run the figures through their Tax program. I'd sure like to know what its built on as it was one of the best GUI's I've seen. At 01:17 PM 4/19/2004, Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: I haven

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
And as luck would have it, one of my recent clients uses Intuit Eclipse (without the GUI) so I just might get a look at that in the future (not to be confused with the IBM-ish Eclipse IDE & container). Thanks, Jeff. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give s

Re: Performance Degraded running u10.0.0 in Aix 5.2 ML 2

2004-04-19 Thread Karl L Pearson
Hmmm. Are you saying 'Ogres' are like onions? On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 07:05, Scott Richardson wrote: > Performance of UV applications on various Operating Systems > is not rocket science. Perhaps better described as large, nasty > tight onions that need peeling, one layer at a time, and > understand

Re: UOJ: Iconv Date Picker Issue

2004-04-19 Thread Ray Wurlod
Try StringValue rather than Value. - Original Message - From: "Morawa, Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:47:34 +0800 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UOJ: Iconv Date Picker Issue > > I'm having a problem input converting a date derived from using the data > picker (DTPi

RE: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Tony Gravagno
Side comment, this is too interesting a thread, it almost deserves a forum of its own. Dawn asks: >Does the requirement to have no client-side setup (other than >pointing a user to a web page in a std web browser) eliminate >accuterm or not? If not, then does this permit drop-down >boxes, comb

Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports

2004-04-19 Thread astarte00
Which is precisely why I ALWAYS do a project with both ends of the sprectrum being in on the decision process (Management & IT). What good is a system that you bring in house only to have it a technical OR Business Solution misfit? BTW...although sometime the shoe fits...but why is management

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread D Averch
We first tried wIntegrate that created the GUI environment but of course required a client side. It worked pretty well and we still have a client using and asking for modifications to those applications. Several years ago, we found RedBack which runs under Unidata/Universe. Initially we focused on

UniObjects

2004-04-19 Thread Kevin Vezertzis
We are having a UniObject dilemma and wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem and/or resolution. When making a call into Universe, via UniObjects, we are seeing a session limit of 10 sessions. Obviously, this is the 10 spawn max on enterprise or ip-based Universe licenses. We were under

Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Mark Johnson
Isn't that what System Builder did (does) with its sbclient software? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based > Clarify. Are you talking

RE: UniObjects

2004-04-19 Thread James Canale, Jr.
Have a look at the subkey property on the session object. You will need to alter this to be unique (after every 10 connections). HTH. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Vezertzis Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:57 PM To:

[UV] ODBC Account Flavor

2004-04-19 Thread Tom Firl
I'm plowing through a project to setup a standard UV-ODBC table and column definition for our application. Our application database accounts are setup as PICK flavored accounts. For ODBC, we're going to setup a separate account for each application account with file pointers to the DATA port

RE: [UV] ODBC Account Flavor

2004-04-19 Thread Andrew Gissing
We've got some websites accessing pre-existing pick flavoured accounts, and another application accessing a fully compliant SQL Schema in a pick flavoured account - a new account built from scratch with CREATE-SCHEMA etc. Both are working fine - from universe 9.6 through to 10.1. My only .02 is t

Re: Users can't login to UV after upgrade from NT4 to 2003 SBS

2004-04-19 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, IIRC, isn't there a problem with telnet on Micro$oft SBS that gets in the way of what UniVerse expects of telnet? Can't give you a deinitive "fix", other than we were informed yonks ago *not* to use SBS with UniVerse At 02:30 20/04/04, you wrote: Having a strange problem at a c

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Ferris
Dawn, Citrix Server would break DLG (Dawn's Law of GUI) rule 4 anyway, as you would need to pre-install Citrix client software on most platforms. BTW Dawn, do you have a mathematic proof of DLG ? Just wondering, 'cause just like the "Great Date Debate", many may be happy to 'bend' these rules

UV Crash on W2K3

2004-04-19 Thread Sara Burns
After extensive effort, creating an example to send to IBM we believe we have found the problem. One of our files had a trigger. Due to this the big/little endian conversion, using CONVERT.FORMAT did not seem to completely work. However this was not obvious. We thought we had reconverted all fi

RE: [UV] ODBC Account Flavor

2004-04-19 Thread Tom Firl
> My only .02 is that the fully compliant schema seems to > interact better with > odbc SQL clients - probably because using CREATE-TABLE > commands makes the > dictionaries exactly what they should be, and the creation of > things like > UV_TABLES. > We probably won't go so far as to define a

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
Citrix and I don't get along -- too many bad memories trying to set up ODBC so that client machines ... anyway, I know that there are reasons that shops use it, just as there are reasons I hope not to have to touch the product again ;-) And I didn't intend for Java to be the only possible solution

Re: UV Crash on W2K3

2004-04-19 Thread Clifton Oliver
Thanks for the report, Sara. One thing I'd like to verify--is the work-around to this to simply delete the trigger and recreate it? Or did you have to create a whole new file, copy the records, and rename the file? -- Regards, Clif ~~~ W. Clifton Olive

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Results
Dawn, What constitutes an acceptable level of client install? After all, if they are running a Mac, Wintel, Linux box, etc., they have pre-installed software. What about auto-install, auto-config software? that requires nothing of the user, but still requires additional software. - Chuck

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Craig Bennett
Dawn, how blue sky are we talking? I am hugely impressed with wxWidgets (http://www.wxwidgets.org) a C++ GUI framework for developing applications on Windows, X, Mac, OS/2. I also think the world is crying out for a cross platform application browesr (same idea as a web browser, but for running

RE: UV Crash on W2K3

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Ferris
Sounds like a good find Sara - any of that midnight oil left :-) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage – an Evolution in Software Development >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Sara Burns >Sent: Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:23 AM >To: '[EMAIL

What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Ferris
Anyone up for a little "straw poll" ? A recurrent theme that I see played out in this & related forums is the "well, does it run on MAC or Linux on the Desktop" question. Often, when asked, the people that raised the issue don't have either platform in their installation - it is merely a standa

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Ferris
> >I also think the world is crying out for a cross platform application >browesr (same idea as a web browser, but for running applications defined >using XML and downloaded from a server. Not designed for browsing websites >and hence with different security requirements (and permission to do more

Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 11:59:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Does the requirement to have no client-side setup (other than pointing a > user to a web page in a std web browser) eliminate accuterm or not? If not, > then does this permit drop-down boxes, combo boxes

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 6:36:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This does violate your rule about zero install, but I can't think of a real > zero install technology ... once you consider web browser dependencies, java > dependencies, flash player dependencies, citrix

Re: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)

2004-04-19 Thread rjc
> SO, I think to myself, I wonder what the REAL numbers are?. According to http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html Windows 90%+ Mac 4% Linux1% If anything over the last few years windows market share has been increasing as mac which used to be in excess of 5% fades slightly

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Craig Bennett
>You can't really have a zero client footprint. I'd rephrase Dawn's statement >to say that perhaps you are using client software that "the average person >would ALREADY have installed" such as a browser, a jpg viewer, a mp3 player, >etc. As long as its the RIGHT browser, an appropriate version, c

RE: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Ferris
H, That could exclude Java, as I don't think the JVM ships these days with XP, does it ? Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage – an Evolution in Software Development >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday,

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Craig Bennett
>Perhaps you need to look at XAML/Avalon, which will be part of Windows "Longhorn" by the time it >BYTES, the various opensource CLT projects should be up & away, and you may have your path. But Ross, that gives me no more advantages than using IE6 in the context of Dawn's question (although

RE: UV Crash on W2K3

2004-04-19 Thread Andrew Mack
Sara, Did you try a RESIZE on the file? And if so, what was the result? Andrew Mack Deputy Sys Admin NZDF HRMIS 04 2371 914 From: Sara Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: U2 Users Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UV Crash on W2K3 Date: T

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Bruce Nichol
At 15:12 20/04/04, you wrote: just ask WordPerfect and Lotus (or DOS devotees or dumb terminal vendors or Eudora users or Netscape shareholders or vb6 developers). And, just what's wrong with these things?They're still available. And work And are used. Well, perhaps not DOS or dumb termi

MV Data Warehousing with Great Plains

2004-04-19 Thread Mark Johnson
Wow. Thanks to all who have helped me create a proposal for my client to possibly keep their MV system as a Data Warehouse to Great Plains. Especially the Data Cube concept which has been in Results for 24 years. I would like to get some first hand examples if anyone has used a MV system as a Da

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Craig Bennett
>> just ask WordPerfect and Lotus (or DOS devotees or dumb terminal >>vendors or Eudora users or Netscape shareholders or vb6 developers). > >And, just what's wrong with these things?They're still available. And >work And are used. Not a thing Bruce I wasn't suggesting there was. But ther

Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread Christophe Marchal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/19/2004 11:59:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the requirement to have no client-side setup (other than pointing a user to a web page in a std web browser) eliminate accuterm or not? If not, then does this permit drop

Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/19/2004 10:57:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Well, perhaps not DOS or dumb terminal vendors wanna bet ? Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

RE: problem with VLIST

2004-04-19 Thread Radosław Ryckowski
Thats was first thing with I tought but unfortunately dasn't work :( W liście z pon, 19-04-2004, godz. 16:57, Gyle Iverson pisze: > >Rados³aw Ryckowski wrote: > >I have external program which crash with fault 11, so I use VLIST > >and here is strange thig. Vlist give me information about length