Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry Christmas/Happy...

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Merry Christmas to All and  A Very Happy New Year full of Busted Brick 
Walls...
 
 
AVA from Sunny Auburn, CA
Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira  Grande, Sao Miguel  Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial Island  

 
In a message dated 12/24/2016 8:18:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
pj...@comcast.net writes:

 
Merry Christmas to all of you and i wish you  the best in finding records 
on your family


 

From:  "Joanne Mercier" 
To:  azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016  9:06:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero  Ano Novo (Merry 
Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread


Feliz  Natal, Primos e Primas! Thanks for all your help this past year and 
may we all  continue our searches in good health and happiness in the New 
Year!


Joanne  Grota Mercier




On December 24, 2016 at 9:02:30 AM, Cathy Bourgeois (_cathybourgeois1218@gma
il.com_ (mailto:cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com) )  wrote: 
 



Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my friends in this  group and 
thank you for all your research help during this year!

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Cheri Mello <_gfscherim@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) >  wrote:


 
 
Feliz Natal (Merry Christmas) and Prospero Ano Novo (Happy New  Year)!


If you would like to send greetings to the list, use  this thread ONLY. 
Just hit reply to this thread and respond. Do NOT start  a new thread.


Please post your greetings by 11:59 pm YOUR  TIME on Dec. 25th. If it's 
12:01 your time on Dec. 26th, you are too  late.



 
 
 
 
 
 
Cheri Mello
Listowner,  Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas,  Achada








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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Updating your DNA page at Family Tree DNA

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Cheri - - 
What a great idea.  If  and when Pat and I locate one of our only two 
Anselmo Males, we will keep this  in mind.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial  Island  

 
In a message dated 6/26/2016 5:42:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
(Cross posted to Azores, IslandRoutes)


For those of you who  have tested with Family Tree DNA, please do me a 
favor.


Log into  your kit(s), go to Manage Personal Information, click on the 
Genealogy tab,  then go to Surnames.


Now see the attached screen shot. In the  surname field, please put what 
island your ancestors are from. In location,  put Azores. 


I am telling your DNA matches to log into their kits  and go to their 
Family Finder matches, and where it says Ancestral Surnames to  type Azores. 


This helps those with mid-1800s emigration from the  Azores with very 
little paper trail. Some don't have an island. If they type  in Azores and see 
8 
people from Sao Jorge island, for example, they will start  to have an idea 
where in the Azores they came from.

Thanks! Cheri  Mello

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Beautiful Reunion Story

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Laura - Thank you for  sharing your efforts of their story.  My cousins are 
working to  find  a Grandfather, and I'd like to share your story with 
them, to give them  hope.  
 
Cheri is so right, about  more needing to take DNA tests.  One of the Kits 
that I manage, had a match  in 2012 at 38. Centimorgans on Family Finder.  
There was a common surname,  but totally wrong area where they were living 
and where they came from.   Move forward 3years to 2015.  Ah, the Holiday 
Sale.  My cousins joined  cash and offered Kits to some of our 85yrs + cousins, 
with the hope that their  DNA would have more percentage of our family's 
ancestors Centimorgans.   Result:  8 out of 10 cousins matches to that Kit from 
2012 with 75  Centimorgans or lower.   What we are looking for now, is that 
are the  two ancestors brothers or cousins.  Time will tell, but what a 
great lead  that would not even have been considered if not for DNA.
 
Thank you Laura for  sharing, and thank you Cheri for encouraging us to 
have more cousins continue  testing.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial  Island  

 
In a message dated 2/24/2016 11:00:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
lauraann0...@gmail.com writes:

 
I wanted to take a moment and share with all of you, my Portuguese  
genealogy family, a heartwarming beautiful story that I was blessed to be  
involved 
in over the past few days.  As many of you know, I am adopted,  and I have 
been searching for my biological father for many years now.  5  years ago, 
my husband bought me the Ancestry dna test.  I then tested  with FTDna and 
with 23andme, hoping to find dna cousins who would share their  lineage with 
me.  I learned to read Portuguese, and began researching on  the Azorean 
gov't website to build a large tree with all the genealogy of  my Portuguese 
cousins, looking for common ancestors between them.  I have  created a Master 
DNA tree which now contains over 10,000 people, and I have  indeed found 
common ancestors.  I am waiting the results of a dna test  for a woman I 
believe 
is my aunt or 2nd cousin.  Expected date of  discovery:  March 21st!  Along 
this journey, I have been richly  blessed me with so many new friends and 
Portuguese cousins.  I have  learned much about my ancestors, the Island of 
Sao Miguel, from which they  came, and the struggles my ancestors endured, 
making my life possible.   


About 3 years ago, I was working off a list of all of the men  who bore my 
biological father's name, Robert Moniz, and lived in the Fall  River area at 
the time of my birth.  One man in particular had a son,  Cory, that I 
located on Facebook.  I messaged him there, with my story,  and he agreed to 
take 
the Ancestry DNA test for me.  As it turns out, we  are only 5th to 8th 
cousins.  Not close enough to provide any clues, but  I added his family lines 
to my DNA Cousin Tree anyhow, thinking sometime in  the future, it may be 
helpful.  I also added his mother's lines, even  though she was French 
Canadian.  That was about 2 years  ago.  My search continues and I have not 
really 
looked at this family in  quite some time.


Saturday morning I received a benign message from a 70 year old woman on  
Ancestry.  Her husband had purchased the test kit for her as a Christmas  
gift.  She had received her results and was showing a 3rd to 4th  cousin match 
to Cory and was reaching out to me because I am the administrator  of his 
dna profile.  She was given up for adoption in 1945 in NY, and has  been 
searching for her biological family for 50 years.  Her husband had  bought her 
the Ancestry DNA test kit for Christmas.  She  wondered  if I had some small 
piece of information that could help her learn  something about her family.   
Due to her age, she suspected her  parents would have passed away by now.  
The only thing she knew about her  birth parents is that she had been told 
her mom was 17 when she was born, and  she believed her father may have been 
a married man. I responded and  explained that the test she was matching did 
not belong to me, but if she  would share her dna results with me, I would 
take a look, as I did have quite  a bit of information on Cory's family.


Then the whirlwind began.  It was readily apparent to me that this  adoptee 
was related to Cory through his mother.  I could see this due to  the 
common matches they shared.  I started to identify common ancestors  between 
her 
dna matches.  And I just couldn't stop.  I traced the  lines down and then 
found yet another common ancestor between unrelated 3rd  cousins, and again 
started to trace that line down and bang I found a  marriage between the 
two lines 5 dna cousins connecting to the wife and 6  unrelated dna 
cousins connecting to the husband.  I had identified this  adoptees 
grandparents!  I nearly fell off my chair.  This couple had  14 children.. 
which one 
was her parent?  Upon 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

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Hi Donna -
Please write me off lie  regarding your Wood line.
Thank You,
 
AVA   _netadosAcores@aol.com_ (mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  
Vieira Anselmo  of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel  Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial Island  

 
In a message dated 1/2/2016 4:23:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
azores@googlegroups.com writes:

Bella,
My grandfather was from Faial and came to Jamestown, Rhode Island when he  
was 13 years old.   His name was Manuel Furtado Dutra.Just curious to 
see if you have any Furtado, Dutra members in your family  tree.
Thanks,
Donna Dutra Wood
 
 
 
-Original  Message-
From: Bellla 
To: Azores  Genealogy 
Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2016 1:41  pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

The  'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after 
showing up on  a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in 
testing 
or genealogy  to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. 
Three grandparents  are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth 
grandparent is from the  continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with 
relatives in Mass and RI  and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and 
Calif growing up. I am  presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just 
let me know! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese in California Documentary

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Thank you MaryAnn
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 7/14/2015 2:41:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
m...@nyu.edu writes:

Thought those of you in California would find this interesting.  

http://portuguese-american-journal.com/community-portuguese-in-california-sc
reened-to-azorean-audiences-azores/



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mary Vieira Silva

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So Happy for You  !!!
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 4/12/2015 4:47:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
pamsanto...@gmail.com writes:

That is great news!!! 

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Liz Migliori _lizmig52@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lizmi...@gmail.com)  wrote:


Great news. Gives us hope 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci _rcapodc@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rcap...@gmail.com)  wrote:



 
 
 
Hi  all, 


Just had  to share my great find while in SLC! 
I have  been searching for my Grandmother coming to the USA for 30 years or 
more.  She always said she came in through the Port of NY  in Sept 1914 and 
 on her Alien Registration Papers she listed that her name as Maria Vieira  
da Silva when she arrived. That is what I've searched for, Maria Vieira da  
Silva coming on that date. Now, the Angra passports have now come online  
and I thought that I would search for EVERY Maria I saw on that list from  
August to the end of Sept 1914 and see what I could see because I've never  
been able to find her on the dates she gave under the name she gave. So,  when 
I had time between teaching classes and helping the other  researchers, I 
searched. On Thursday, right before lunch, I found her! She  came under the 
surname of her mother, Azevedo!! Sure enough, it said Maria  d'Azevedo, 17 
years, single from Norte Grande, daughter of Francisco  Vieira da Silva and 
Maria d'Azevedo! I'm sure everyone in Basement 1 heard  me, I was so excited! 
But the moral of the story for all Portuguese  researchers is, don't give up 
on the search and don't believe everything  your Grandparents said or 
wrote!! LOL 
From this  info I found her on the ship Patria and feel wonderful that I've 
finally  found my Va!! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rosemarie 
_rcapodc@gmail.com_ (mailto:rcap...@gmail.com) 
Researching Sao Jorge,  Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine,  Sant' Elia,  Sicily












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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pinheiro born 1884 on Faial to Providence, Rhode Islan...

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Mr. Gil -
 
My Grandmother,  Maria Pine, of Pleasanton, CA was born Maria Pinheiro in 
Praia do Almoxarife, Faial, in  1867.  In reviewing my notes I'm not finding 
any of my Pinheiro relatives  in Cedros.
 
Maria had a brother,  Manuel, who was a whaler in the Mass. area before 
moving to Pleasanton/Hayward,  CA.   Others of her family arrived on the East 
Coast in the early  1900's.I will send you what I have. 
 
I will write you off  line.  My e-mail address is _netadosacores@aol.com_ 
(mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  
 
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 4/3/2015 9:54:38 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
mgilfilia...@gmail.com writes:

My great grandfather was Joseph Pine, he was born Jose DA Rosa  Pinheiro in 
1893, Cedros, Faial. Worked as a servant for a family in  Providence Rhode 
Island as a teen. Married in 1917, had 2 sons, my grandpa for  one. They 
lived in South Dartmouth with gggrandpa, Joseph worked at the  Gosnold textile 
mill, his WWI draft reg lists a throat affliction and he died  very very 
early so possibly throat cancer something of the sort. That's where  the story 
ends though I can't find a death certificate that's it so I'm  stuck.
Mike 
Mr. Gil 
On Apr 2, 2015 1:35 AM, Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com)  wrote:

Repost for Joe Pine, jpine1947 at _gmail.com_ (http://gmail.com/) 

My name is Joe  Pine and a new member of this site. I am currently living 
in Gilbert,AZ. I  grew up and lived until 10 years ago in Falmouth, MA. I am 
beginning to  research my family tree on my fathers side. My paternal 
grandfather was born  in Faial in 1884. I found a passenger list with his name, 
Salvador Pinheiro,  that showed him landing in Providence, RI on Nov/24/1912. 
It also listed a  Manuel Pinheiro as a contact person who was living in 
Taunton. I'm not sure  if Manuel was a brother or another relative. I was 
wondering if the family  name ( Pinheiro  or  Pine ) is familiar? I would 
appreciate any  info you might have.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA question

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Thank you Cheri - that  extended explanation helps so much more in my 
understanding, or at least trying  to understand.
 
Both of the 1928 cousins  have tested a few years ago.  So tonight when I 
upgrade the 1921 cousin's  kit to Family Finder we are all hoping for a 
Lucky 7 year breakthrough at  finding more information as he is 4 generations 
away from Our Common Ancestor,  and the rest of the cousins are 5/6 
generations away and have less of the DNA  markers that we are looking for.
 
It's all so fascinating and  frustrating at the same time.
 
Thank you  again,
 
Ally
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 12/30/2014 1:44:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
Ally,

That's me saying that.  FTDNA says back to the 2  greats, which is within 
some statistical confidence level.


So my  dad is born in the 1930s, so his DNA should go back to the 1730s.  
It  does, I've found matches from the 1740s and 1730s.  However, my dad has a 
 match on his American side to an American ancestor born in 1696.  I have  
the exact same block or segment in my DNA too!  That's closer to 250  years 
back!  Same start and stop location, same amount of cenitMorgans  (cMs - a 
genetic unit of measure).  What that means is my dad has a  sticky segment.  
It won't split in half.  It's an all or nothing  deal.  He got that whole 
block from his mom.  He passed that whole  block onto me.  Did it get passed 
on to my sister?  Don't know,  she'd have to take a DNA test.  And if she got 
it too, did her kids get  it?  Maybe, maybe not.  Does everyone who 
descends from the 1696 man  have that segment or block in their DNA?  Nope.  
Some 
do and some  don't.


There's no crystal ball here.  If luck is on your  side (and if these 2 
cousins are related on this common ancestor), I'd test  both the 1921 and 1928 
people.  Heck, I'd test both of them anyways, just  to get the DNA.  It's 
stored for at least 25 years.  Who knows what  advances will be made by then.  
Sadly the people who are born in the  1920s probably won't be with us in 25 
years.  They are leaving their  legacy behind by testing their DNA.

Cheri Mello
Listowner,  Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira  das 
Tainhas, Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA question

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Cheri -
 
Family Finder goes back  200 years from the testee's  birth.
So if my cousin was born in  1928, minus the 200 years, then he would 
possibly match with anyone born after  1728.  
 
If we are trying to match  with anyone born before 1728 then we would have 
to keep digging in the  trenches.
 
If I were to upgrade  another cousin, who was born in 1921, there would be 
a slim chance that a match  would be found with in those additional 7 years, 
but worth the  upgrade to possibly narrow down the search years.
 
Did I understand, and write  that clearly?
 
Ally
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of  Faial  

 
In a message dated 12/30/2014 8:30:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Al,


Which Eric?  I have a  few in the DNA project and several on this list  :)


You can order the Family Finder (regularly  $99, on sale for $89, and I can 
get you at least a $10 off, but SH is  $9.95).  That test  will cover all 
your lines back about 200 years from your birth.   If you have a living 
parent test them first because they have DNA back about  200 years from their 
birth.


Over time you will  make matches on your known lines and then you'll slowly 
start to figure out  those incognitos.


If you have a straight line  male descendant from the pai incognito (the 
son of the son of the son), you  could test his YDNA and isolate that one 
line. Eventually, someone with a  paper trail will test and you could figure 
out 
that line as  well.


Order here: http://goo.gl/51Nwwm   Well, let me check for a coupon first 
and email that code directly to  you.

Cheri

 
 
 
 
 
 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca,  Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Link to New DNA study done in mainland Portugal

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Nicely Said.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of  Faial
 

 
In a message dated 11/27/2014 6:41:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
j...@venturas.org writes:

I find it revolting that work that clearly is supported by the  Portuguese 
tax-payers is not available to them for free (I'm a German  tax-payer, so in 
theory I should also get free access, since I end up paying,  but I digress 
:) ).  


All this work is done by researchers in the  Institute of  Molecular 
Pathology and Immunology of the University of Porto (IPATIMUP), and  none of 
their 
work is available from their website.. I hate the fact that  science 
publishers make money every other way: the science is paid by the  
institutions, 
when an article is accepted the authors need to pay several  thousand euros 
to have it published, the peer reviewers all work for free, and  in the end 
the subscription to the journal costs a small fortune. In that  sense, the 
recent statement by the Bill Gates foundation that all work  sponsored by them 
should be freely available, should be followed by the  Portuguese Goverment.


João C. Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en
 

On Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:53:37 UTC+1, A Faria wrote:  
It really is too bad that they charge $31.50 to have online  access to the 
full text for 24 hours. I would love to read the findings but  that price is 
a bit steep. 

A.Faria 

On Saturday, November 22,  2014 1:42:46 PM UTC-8, A Faria wrote:  
Hi

This is an Abstract on Portuguese mitochondrial DNA  genetic diversity just 
came out within the last week or so.

_http://www.fsigenetics.com/http://www.fsigenetics.chttp://www.fsigene_ 
(http://www.fsigenetics.com/article/S1872-4973(14)00220-8/abstract) 

Antonio  Faria







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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

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From my Tree on Sao Miguel,  Azores
 
Manuel dos Reis
b. (before 1771 ish )  em Ribeira  Seca, RG Sao Miguel
 
son:  Antonio dos Reis
b.  23 Sept 1791   Ribeira  Seca, RG  Sao Miguel
d.  03  Sept  1873   Ribeira Seca, RG  Sao Miguel
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 5/11/2014 11:24:08 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
eliseuman...@gmail.com writes:

 
3.12.1906  J 
Eliseu  Pacheco da Silva 
Researching  Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo 
(  http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel  ) 
 
 
De:  azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Enviada:  domingo, 11 de Maio de 2014 03:37
Para:  Azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy]  help

 
Hello everyone.  I am  looking for birth date for Manuel dos  Reis.  Sorry 
but year, dates and months are hard for me.  I  also have a question about 
the parents for Manuel,  Base on what I can  see father is Felicio and mother 
is Esther, would this be  correct.
 
Thank you as always for your  help
 

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904
-1911/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911_item1/P82.html
 

 

Thank  you
Bob  Camacho
Researching  the Island of Terceira for
da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco,  Ferriera
Researching  the Island of Graciosa for
Reis
Researching  the Island of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching  Brazil for
Evangelho
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

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Happy Birthday  !!!
 
... and your  secret to a long and happy life is being active in the Azores 
Community, and  what else ?
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 4/2/2014 3:18:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
lionelholme...@gmail.com writes:

 
Thank  you!


Lionel




On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM, _Seekgene@aol.com_ 
(mailto:seekg...@aol.com)  wrote:


Happy birthday, Lionel!
 
 

 
In a message dated 4/2/2014 2:02:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
_pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com)  writes:

I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the  oldest 
of our list members.


It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still  going 
strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We  already 
had a big party on Sunday.



Happy Birthday, Dad!



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico  Terceira  Genealogist
_916-550-1618_ (tel:916-550-1618) 
_www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] SWA Flights

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Southwest  Airlines
 
 
From  Salt Lake City, UT _back to  top_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/html/promotions/nationwide-sale.html?src=wbmd1n2p3y4natus5aol6s7d8p9n10s11_140318#)
  
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(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestinati
onAirport=DEN)   
*   _To Las Vegas, NV starting at $89 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestin
ationAirport=LAS)   
*   _To Los Angeles, CA starting at $117 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDes
tinationAirport=LAX)   
*   _To Oakland, CA starting at $136 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestina
tionAirport=OAK)   
*   _To Phoenix, AZ starting at $134 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestina
tionAirport=PHX)   
*   _To Portland, OR starting at $131 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestin
ationAirport=PDX)   
*   _To Seattle/Tacoma, WA starting at $132 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFare
DestinationAirport=SEA) 
 
AVA
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Pinheiro/Nunes of  Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A True Portuguese Success Story - How Proud We All Sho...

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WOW !! Thanks  for sharing   ; )
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 3/14/2014 2:30:24 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

 
Fellow Listers,


Please read the attached.  It will warm your hearts and make you  feel 
proud of your Portuguese heritage and the success of this wonderful  
individual. 
 


http://www.allgov.com/usa/ca/news/appointments-and-resignations/director-of-
the-department-of-rehabilitation-who-is-joe-xavier-140314?news=852677


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy Conference and Research Trip, Hotel D...

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Southwest  Airlines has a special that ends today, March 10, 2014.
 
Even though it  list From: Salt Lake City, UT   To:  Various Cities 
the price  is the same from that City to SLC
 
 Salt Lake City, UT _back to  top_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/html/promotions/click-n-save-sale.html?RR_NUMBER=a263e37ffe53082bc5a2b8c9c11e5f46f58cd845R
MID=L_140303_CNS_ARRID=c2FjY2hhY29uQGFvbC5jb20.src=MAILCNSMONDCNSNP0140303
A#)
*   _To Denver, CO starting at $83 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestinati
onAirport=DEN)  
*   _To Las Vegas, NV starting at $89 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestin
ationAirport=LAS)  
*   _To Los Angeles, CA starting at $117 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDes
tinationAirport=LAX)  
*   _To Oakland, CA starting at $136 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestina
tionAirport=OAK)  
*   _To Phoenix, AZ starting at $146 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestina
tionAirport=PHX)  
*   _To Portland, OR starting at $137 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFareDestin
ationAirport=PDX)  
*   _To Seattle/Tacoma, WA starting at $132 one-way_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/flight/shortcut/low-fare-search.html?lowFareOriginAirport=SLClowFare
DestinationAirport=SEA) 

 
 
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
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gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
For those thinking of coming to our Genealogy Conference and Research  Trip 
in Salt Lake City, Utah, from April 15-18th, 2014, our first deadline is  
fast approaching.


You need to have your hotel room booked by  Friday, March 14th!

Salt Lake Plaza Hotel (800) 366-3684.  Say  you are with the Azores 
Conference.


After the 14th, any remaining  rooms in our block will be released for the 
general public.  After all,  the hotel is in the business of selling as many 
rooms as they  can.


For more information on the conference, visit the Azores  GenWeb here:
_goo.gl/E9FHvV_ (http://goo.gl/E9FHvV) 


Yes, Madeirans and  Cape Verdean reseachers are welcome.  Although we don't 
have a specific  class to teach about Madeira's ARM, we will still be able 
to help.   


The order of the classes has changed due to scheduling conflicts  with the 
Family History Library.  You will have the corrected copy given  to you at 
the conference.


If you have a non-Portuguese genealogy  friend that wants to come along to 
get the group rate (stay 3 nights and get  the 4th free), they are welcome 
to attend.  They can call the hotel and  say Azores conference.  Just email 
me and let me know so I won't wonder  why I have a John Smith in our group!

The next deadline will be April  1st, when the money is due.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

-- 
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila  Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada  











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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A brick wall smashed - my own genealogy success story

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Congratulations  ~ nothing better in our research than to give, or receive 
a helping hand and  have a brick wall tumble down.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 12/26/2013 8:18:20 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
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I'll try to keep this short, but from time to time I love reading  a good 
happy ending genealogy story, and since I am new to this group, I  thought 
mine might be a story worth sharing with all of you. ...  


I have been researching for 40 years. I remember paying someone  travelling 
to the Azores to find a single record for me - it was the only way  back 
then. I then went to the islands myself three times to do the research  
myself, in the original records, for the first time. Handling the original  
volumes with my ancestors' names is an unforgettable experience.


In the early 1980s my wife and I went to Sao Miguel and while researching  
in the Archivo, met the man from the Mormon church who was in the process of 
 microfilming the records. He took us to the little building near the 
Archivo  where he was set up and he showed us the process. What a blessing - I 
rejoiced  at the thought that in a few years I would be able to examine 
microfilms in an  LDS family history center a few miles from home ... and I 
have 
spent many  years and many hundreds of dollars renting and researching those  
microfilms!


Through these several different efforts I have had the good fortune of  
finding 7 of my 8 great-grandparents, all born in Sao Miguel, and have traced  
their lines back for anywhere from decades to centuries, depending on the  
line. The 8th ggp, Maria Ricarda Gonzales, has eluded me because I only knew  
her birth date and that she was born on Sao Jorge, but had no idea what  
village. Her parents were circus performers in a small circus that traveled  
through the Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands, Spain, and France. Her father  
(Agustin Ribero Gonzales) was from somewhere in the Canary Islands and her  
mother (Maria Ricarda Martins) was from Ponta Delgada (and yes, I had their  
names as well). That was all I knew of her origin for 40 years. It was 
ironic  that I knew nothing about her birth because she was also the only great 
 
grandparent I ever knew personally (she died when I was just a young  kid).


In October 2012 I had the opportunity to make a short visit to my home  
area of New Bedford for a family wedding. I wrote ahead to the local LDS  FHC 
librarian because I knew they had a lot of Azorean microfilms; I wanted to  
know what Sao Jorge villages they had (figured it would save me a bunch in  
rental fees if I could at least go through those while I was there). I told  
her only the first name of my ggm (Maria), her birth date, and  that she was 
born on Sao Jorge (I wasn't expecting anyone to do research; I  just wanted 
to give her a better idea of what I hoped to accomplish when I got  up 
there). 


That was all: Maria + birth date + island.


Then the big surprise came: a few days later, while sitting in the car  
outside of a Garden Ridge store down here in south Texas, hoping my wife would  
soon stop shopping (!), I felt my phone vibrate; a message had come in from 
 that FHC director. In that little text message she explained she had given 
the  information I provided to one of her patrons who specialized in 
Azorean  research and he knew about a website that I had never heard of (the 
CCA  
website). He told her to let me know he had looked at one village  (Calheta; 
how he picked that one at random, I'll never know), and he had found  a 
birth of a Maria for that birth date, just in case I might be interested.  
There she was in my little cell phone window: my great grandmother! I was able  
to instantly identify her by her parent's names (which I had not  provided 
to the FHC director): the names of her father and mother which  were in the 
record along with the fact that her father was from the Canary  Islands ... 
not only that, but specifically the village of Santa  Brigida on the island 
of Gran Canaria! I had no idea what island or town my  great-great 
grandfather was from until that moment! My wife has  never seen such a look on 
my face 
after she has gone shopping  before! :)


In the year that has passed, I have (exclusively through the help of a  now 
dear friend in Gran Canaria) been able to discover many dozens of  
ancestors in four of the Canary Islands, going back the same number of  
centuries as 
my Azorean ancestral lines. There will always be more ancestors,  more 
finds, and more exciting moments, but having a brick wall completely  destroyed 
- because someone I have never met instantly pulled the needle out  of the 
haystack - still stuns me to this day. May all your Maria's also be  found in 
2014!


--Andy Rapoza


A quick postscript: When I am done with this post, I will go to the CCA  
website and do my research from the comfort and convenience of my 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research for Hire

[netadosAcores]

My cousin, Patsy  (CNSPORT), and I, have used João over the passed two  
years.
 
Patsy is pretty  good at reading Portuguese, and found my Grand Father's 
christening  record.  However, she could not find her own Grand Father's  
record.
 
What João found for us, was that at the time of my Grand Father's  
christening, the family changed their name.  From Vieira to Vieira Anselmo,  in 
order to keep track of which Vieira family was which.  João, also found  where 
the Anselmo name came from, it was another ancestor's first  name.
 
What I like  about working with João, is that he takes the time to answers 
my questions when  I'm not understanding something.  He keeps what he has 
researched, so if  for some reason you loose your copies, he can resend them.  
And no, I was  not the one who lost my copies.
 
Another group  member, gave João copies of letters that her family was 
corresponding  with from relatives living in the Azores.  He was able to do the 
 
translations for her, and she was able to have a better understanding of  
her Azorean relative's life on the island.
 
João ~  looking forward to working with you  again.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of  Faial
 

 
In a message dated 12/19/2013 6:26:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
ro...@lightspeed.net writes:

I agree.  He does a very professional job.  The information provided is 
accurate  and he gets the work done quickly.  He is very reasonable priced too. 
 :)
Doreen Caetano-Jungk

-Original  Message- 
From: Karen Huffman 
Sent: Dec  19, 2013 10:52 AM 
To: Azores Google Group  
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research for  Hire 


 
Listers,

Anyone skeptical about Joao don't be. I have used him  and he is wonderful!!


Karen Medeiros-Huffman



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:10 AM, joao ventura _heroi99@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:hero...@yahoo.com)  wrote:


 
Dear Listers,
 
For  those that don't have the time, the patience, or just because they 
don't  want to do their genealogy research, you can contact me to do  it!
 
 I am based in the Azores and cover all the islands. I  research documents 
and provide copies, transcriptions and  translations of the documents.
 
For further information, please contact me privatly at: _heroi99@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:hero...@yahoo.com) 
 
João Ventura 
Terceira


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Pyramid Puzzle - Inhabited Earlier Than Thought.

[netadosAcores]

Thank you for  sharing ~
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
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bellema...@gmail.com writes:

 
This is REAL interesting.
 
http://www.algarveresident.com/0-54889/algarve/azores-pyramids-puzzle
 
E
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Family

[netadosAcores]

This is what I  have on my side tree ~ from the NEPS site.  None of this 
information has  been confirmed, and that is why I call it a side tree.
 
The second page  has the children of an  Antonio Silveira and Maria 
Delfina.  I was told  that if the  names have a ? next to them, it is because 
there is no  information after their birth, and that they most likely left the 
island.   Hear say ~ I know.
 
You will have to  confirm if this is your person or not.
 
AVA
Ally Vieira  Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes  of Faial
 
 
In a message dated 7/7/2013 10:26:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
hughes1...@dodo.com.au writes:

Hi,

I know I can't offer much information but if anyone has  an Antonio Manuel 
Silveira born between  1790 and 1815 in Faial or  Flores, Azores I would be 
very grateful for any  information.

Joy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Festival: New York celebrates the best of Portuga...

[netadosAcores]

Does anyone know  the dates that these similar events will be held in San  
Francisco?
 
AVA
 
 
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bellema...@gmail.com writes:

FYI if your lucky enough to be in New York on these dates. 
E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alien Registration Forms -- Speedy return!

[netadosAcores]

Kathy  ~
 
Please write me  at _netadosacores@aol.com_ (mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com) 
 
Curious about  your Reis connection, and what island was he from?
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2013 7:31:12 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
rcap...@redshift.com writes:

 
 
Wow Kathy, that’s so great! It just goes to prove that you need to check  
every document you can find on your ancestors. I will be in Merced today  
talking about Portuguese Research and I will be sure to tell everyone about  
your great find! 
 
Rosemarie 
 
 
 

 
From: _Kathy Cardoza_ (mailto:kmacard...@me.com)  
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:32 AM
To: _Azores Google Group_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com)  
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alien Registration Forms -- Speedy  return!


 

If  you aren't aware of the importance of Alien Registration Forms to your  
research, you should know what a wonderful resource they can be!   Briefly, 
ARs began to be required in 1940 as a way to identify all  non-citizens 
living in the United States. They registered at their local Post  Office. For 
more information on this great resource, go to the Azores  GenWeb:  
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/alienreg.html   

 
Recently I sent for the AR of my husband's great grandfather, Ignacio  
Augusto Reis. First, I requested an index search online (links are on the  
Azores GenWeb) on April 21. I received the results of the search on April 26,  
via snail mail. With those results, I requested the actual forms on April 26,  
online. Yesterday, May 17, I received the AR form in the mail, less than a  
month from the start of the whole process!
 
It cost me $20 for the index search and $20 for the form. I'm glad I  
requested it! I've searched for this man, Ignacio Augusto Reis, aka Enos Reis,  
for a long time but never found his immigration info. This form gave me the  
ship, port, and exact date. Even with that I had a hard time finding him on  
passenger lists. Finally, I located him on the _EllisIsland.org_ 
(http://ellisisland.org/)  site  but he was  listed under the butchered name 
Jgnacia 
Augusto Reys Lima Lima was his  father's surname which he never used 
any other time and I never would have  thought to check that. A good lesson 
for all researchers.
 
I was amazed at how fast I got results back on this! The time frame is  
much improved over the old method used, except that now, it's no longer free.  
Oh, and the results will be sent to you from the Department of Homeland  
Security! That gave my son quite a start when he went up to get our mail,  LOL.
 
Kathy
 
 
 
~~~
Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
 
Climb my Family Tree:
http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists

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Cheri ~
 
Good info. thank for sharing.  Went on a number of my 1880 census  records, 
and not a one had the name of who said it.  Darn!  That  would have been 
very useful, as my Grt Grand Parents ages very between 1870 and  1920 by 15 
yrs.
 
Ally
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2013 3:49:44 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
Jo Anne said:
I don't know how much of the census records are  correct.  Info seems to 
change from census to census...The census  records have many mistakes by 
way of transcription.  The latest, `1940  census, shows my parents listed as  
MillsSheesh!


The census records are  really only primary evidence for residence only.  
Any other info gleaned from them is secondary evidence.  Census takers had to 
be able to write.  They didn't have to spell  correctly.  And in Hawaii you 
have the special problem of  many cultures coming together.  So if the 
census taker was born in  China and was sent to a Portuguese  household, you 
can 
imagine 2 different accents trying to communicate in English. At any rate, 
whoever was home would answer the  census taker's question.  And if that 
meant the 10 year old, the 10 year  old answered.  The 1940 census had the 
census takers put an  X by the name of the person who answered the questions.  
None of the  other censuses did that.  If you do a lot of  census work, you 
can sometimes tell who answered the questions  by following the family 
through the census  years.


The transcribed indices are a whole different problem.  Human error can be 
introduced,  especially with someone transcribing  who is not familiar with 
Portuguese names.  At Ancestry, you can submit a  correction.  I was told 
Ancestry outsourced the indexing to China, Sri Lanka, India, or high school 
students.  I don't know which  story is true, if any.  I do know that their 
training of  paleography is subpar.  I've seen Turner transcribed incorrectly! 
 And that's a real  easy  name!

 


Jo Anne continued:
I have  info from the 1900 Hawaiian census that shows a Manuel Mello,  
B/D 1868 in Portugal immigrated to HI in 1887! married to Mary in 1889 - now  
do I take that as gospel? ...  Dates seem to float up and down.  Geez when 
they interviewed these people don't they know their own  birthdate?  Why do 
they keep changing, if, in fact, they are the same  people?


The only thing you can take as gospel is a primary source.  A primary 
source is something that was issued at the time of the event. A birth  
certificate is a primary source for a birth.  A death  certificate is a primary 
source 
for the death.  You can take the birth  date off of the death certificate, 
but that fact  is a secondary source.  Secondary sources are something that 
was issued AFTER the time of the  event.


Most of our ancestors were illiterate.  They did  not celebrate birthdays 
like we do now with a cake and  whatnot.  They weren't asked for their 
birthdate like we are when we fill out  credit applications, banking forms, 
Dept 
of Motor Vehicle stuff, employment applications, etc.  And  some of our 
ancestors used their baptism date as their birth  date  instead.


When I started doing genealogy 21 years ago, I initially signed up for a 
basic genealogy  class at my local adult school.  One of the  things we were 
taught  was:

1) Who said  it?

2) When did they say  it?

3) How did  they  know?


Take a look at this 1880 census (if you have a  subscription to Ancestry):  
_goo.gl/9jNb7_ (http://goo.gl/9jNb7) 

If you are researching the John  Bedford family (lines 9-15) in the 1880 
census, you will know the answer to  question 2 above.  It was stated in 1880. 
 But if you know that the  husband and wife are about 15 years apart in 
age, and their kids are William,  ELIZABETH, Annie, LOLA, and Joseph, you will 
be completely baffled that the  census shows the husband and wife as only 5 
years apart and that their kids  are William, MARY,  Annie, LOUISA, and 
Joseph.  And the kids' ages  are way off.  Scroll way over to the right.  The 
answer to question  number 1 is there.  I lucked out on that! (for those 
without a  subscription to Ancestry, it says Obtained from a neighbor.  Could 
learn  no more.  And then you look at all their neighbors (for those who 
can't  view it, many are from Portugal, China, Russia, and Canada).  I 
therefore 
 have my answer to question 3: They neighbors really didn't know.  They  
took their best guess.


You'll have to collect every piece  of paper you can find on your 
ancestors.  Hawaii is tougher because you  are dealing with a U.S. territory 
and a 
kingdom.  So things are a little  different with Hawaiian research.  And if 
you can't find stuff on the  husband, chase the wife around.  And ALL their 
kids.  Not just your  ancestor.  The information you need may be on a 
different kids'  record.


Hope this answers a couple of your questions.
Cheri  Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Family Bible Story

[netadosAcores]

Karen  ~
 
Thank you,  Scotts Valley is the name of the town that I was trying to 
remember.  I've  been away from CA too long!  Miss the ocean and sea breeze, 
miss the  mountains and pine trees, oh yea, miss the grandkids too!
 
Ally
 
I am pretty sure the town she is referring to is Scotts Valley. Good Luck  
and congratulations!!  


Karen Medeiros-Huffman

 
 
In a message dated 4/19/2013 7:23:04 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
netadosaco...@aol.com writes:

E
 
Do you live in  California?  There used to be a woman in a small town 
outside of Santa  Cruz ( before you get to Santa Cruz ) Scottflat?  Anyway, my 
friend took  some old Bibles to be restored.  These Bibles had broken bindings 
and  sloppy covers.  Once restored, they looked like  new.
 
Not sure what  the name is, I will try and contact my friend for the Name 
and possibly the  address of this company.
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 4/19/2013 2:21:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

 
Today in the mail, we received my husband's Sharp family bible.   It was 
given to his great grandmother by her father in 1825.  She was  born in 1812.  
So we're assuming for her 13th birthday. My  husband's brother inherited 
the bible from their father and his  daughter, my husband's niece who we have 
a great relationship with  just sent it to us.  We have wanted this bible 
for a long time as  my brother in law had only daughters and we have male 
Sharp descendants that  we want to pass it along to.  There are some huge 
pressed leaves,  and what looks like ribbons from wedding flowers and then some 
dried flowers  also.  I guess it could also be funeral flowers.  A postcard 
and  some pictures of women cut out of the newspaper.  
 
Anyhow just wanted to say you never know what you will inherit  someday.  
We are very thankful to have it even though its condition is  not the best.  
Not sure what we can do to try and have it restored it  but will look into 
it.
 
E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

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That is exactly  what I do, because what comes up to research is more than 
when you are  researching with just a name, and that person family info in 
the search  catagory.
 
AVA
 
 
In a message dated 4/1/2013 10:28:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
djperr...@sbcglobal.net writes:

I have the same frustration and I think the reason folks don't respond is  
that they are amateurs who see the ads on TV, jump at the introductory 
offer,  find a few common names, swipe them to their tree and then lose  
interest.  When they don't pay to stay on Ancestry, they're long gone  though 
their 
incorrect information is there for eternity.  The only thing  we can do is 
put comments on their tree regarding the incorrect information  but if their 
tree is private we're out of luck.  One Ancestry  member distantly related 
to me has only a dozen or so names on his tree at any  one time - the names 
he's researching using the Ancestry sources.  Once  he has everything he 
can get, he deletes these folks and ads new names to  research.
David

On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:10:30 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote:

Was wondering how many have public trees? I am a little  perplexed because 
I do not, but had someone invited to my tree on my mothers  side and made 
that info public. I went on the ancestry and there are random  children added 
to my couple and  a date of death which is not correct.  I emailed the 
people and I hope they fix it, other wise others will copy  what they have and 
its not correct.  


I also emailed 8 people informing them they had the wrong parents for a  
person who married my Antone Louis Medeiros (Bisho) So far only one  
responded. I only emailed them because they would have been researching the  
wrong 
parents. ( I am not even related to her) I would hope they would fix  it so 
others don't make the same mistake.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Books On Line

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For those who  are lucky enough to have a Family History line that has been 
written about, you  can now go to the LDS web site  familysearch.org.  
Click on Books  .  Many books have been digitized or are in the process of 
being digitized  and you can read them at home, scrolling through the  pages.
 
The bad thing  is, that before you would go to the book section, and all 
the Family books were  in alphabetical order.  Now you enter the Family name, 
and anything with  that Name will come up, either by author, or county, 
whatever.  So while it  is convenient to do your research at home, it is going 
to be painfully  slow.  However, if you know the name of the book, you hit 
the  jackpot!
 
AVA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Women traveling from Acores

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Sounds like a good romance novel ~
 
 
 
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djve...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
My grandmother traveled alone to New York and then by train to Hanford,  
CA. She was going to her cousin (Joaquin Valine) who owned the California  
Saloon. She was sponsored by him or maybe one of her two brothers who were  
already here. Upon arrival in Hanford she went right to the saloon which  was 
very near the train station. She walked right in the front door. Her  cousin 
was very happy to see her, but he told her Virginia, you never come in  the 
front door of a saloon. Ladies don't do that! She didn't know. Her cousin  
had told her he knew a nice man for her to marry and had told my 
grandfather  that he had a nice girl coming that he might like to marry. And 
they did 
marry  the next year. Virginia Garcia Serpa and Jose Teixeira Bettencourt.  
Dolores Vener 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

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When our family left the Azores, they came over in three groups, by way of  
the Hawaiian Kingdom.  In the first group were my  Great Grandparents  and 
the older boys, leaving two of the younger boys with relatives.  In the  
second group, were my Great Grandfather's older brother and his family and one  
of the younger sons.  Finally when the 3rd small group traveled, the  
youngest son, now a year older, was chaparoned by my Great  Grandfather's 
sister 
in-laws, sister, and finally reunited with his  family.
 
The sacrifices they made.
 
AVA
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2013 9:42:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
pamsanto...@gmail.com writes:

My ex  husbands gggreat aunt came with her kids, her husband already passed 
and her  nephew my ex husbands ggrandfather came with her and hid in the 
mattress she  had on the ship.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, janet laytham _jwlaytham@msn.com_ 
(mailto:jwlayt...@msn.com)  wrote:

My great aunt came to the USA with her 6  year old brother in tow.  She was 
13 years old:  her parents and  other siblings (including my grandmother) 
stayed behind.  


Janet  
 



On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Mike _mgilfilian95@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:mgilfilia...@gmail.com)  wrote:


When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come  to the USA, is there any 
typical situation that would bring them over?  coming with parents? coming 
with husband? would they have traveled over  with an older or younger 
brother? Would she have traveled over alone if  another family member already 
here?
I'm trying to find a clue to  connect my great aunt Francisca to my great 
grandfather Jose to maybe  narrow down some of the search results for 
traveling into the  USA
Mike



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Dabneys: A Bostonian Family in the Azores 1806-1871

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Thanks E, that looks like something I would like to have in my  library.  
 
AVA
Vieira~Anselmo of San Miguel
Pinheiro, Nunes of Faial
 
 
In a message dated 1/28/2013 1:10:17 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

This book might be of interest to some:
 
_http://whalingmuseumblog.org/2013/01/28/ambassador-of-portugal-visits-feb-1
6/_ 
(http://whalingmuseumblog.org/2013/01/28/ambassador-of-portugal-visits-feb-16/) 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip

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Thank You Celeste  ~
 
I enjoyed your e-mail and will save it in my bucket list !
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2013 11:35:08 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
ccgran...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Lorraine, if you live in California, there are direct  flights every summer 
(May through September) from Oakland to Terceira.   These are the flights I 
have flown the last few times I visited the  Azores.  
   From Terceira, I have flown to Sao Miguel and have a  great taxi driver 
I use there.  Carlos Rego speaks English; is  enthusiastic about looking for 
the places ancestors lived and visiting anyone  in the villages that might 
have more information about the family you  seek.  
   In Terceira, I have relied on Joao Ventura to direct  me to taxi drivers 
that help me visit the villages where my ancestors lived;  to find 
information in the churches where they lived; to see the sights they  saw, etc.
   In Faial, I have found taxi drivers (some better than  others) that 
drive around the island to see the sights and also to visit the  villages where 
my ancestors lived.
   I visited Sao Jorge only one time and did, after some  searching, find a 
taxi driver that spoke English and understood what I wanted  to see on this 
island.  
   The only place I took a tour was on the Mainland in  Lisbon.  Since I 
had no ancestors from this area in Portugal, I was  interested in just seeing 
the sights.
   If you need additional information about any of the  Islands I mention, 
feel free to contact me privately and I can share my  findings with you.
   Celeste  
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


 
 

From: Lorraine Price  designther...@cox.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:38  AM
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip


  
 
 
We’re  planning a trip to the Azores in May.  Does anyone know of any 
planned  trips, good deals, air fares, hotels?  I’m guessing the main airport 
is  
in San Miguel.  We’ll want to travel to Graciosa (my family’s birthplace)  
and probably Terciera, by boat? plane?.  Any other suggestions?   What 
about a driver/tour guide?  Thanks  much!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to contact your DNA Matches and get a better respo...

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Great Idea Cheri ~ and it is an easy fix!
 
AVA
Vieira~Anselmo: Sao Miguel
Pinhiero, Nunes: Faial
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2013 4:39:03 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
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Here's a  suggestion (or a work around) that's I've come up with to solve 
one problem of  contacting your DNA matches.

Attached is a screen shot titled Match  George.  This is Altino Demelo's 
Family Finder matches.  You can  see that Altino matches George Mello, 
Shirley Allegre, Cheri Mello, Gail  Elizares, and Nicolau Silva.  So if you 
were 
Altino and you got your DNA  results back, you would think that if you 
emailed George, Shirley, Cheri,  Gail, and Nicolau, that you would be reaching 
George, Shirley, Cheri, Gail and  Nicolau.  You're not.  The reason I know 
this is because I'm the  project admin and I can tell you that two of the 
matches have proxies (kits  handled by other people).  You would not know this 
if 
you are  Altino.  Now, if you are Altino, and you write me an email that 
says, Hi  there, You are matching me on our Family Finder page, I won't know 
what you  mean.  Are you really matching me, Cheri?  Or my dad George? Or 
my  mom?  Or any of the other kits I handle?

So I came up with this  work around.  See the screen shot titled Match 
George But Cheri.   Now, if you are Altino, you now know that you won't be 
talking to  George.  You are talking to Cheri.  So your email could say, Hi  
Cheri, I see George Mello is matching me on the Family Finder  test.

However, if you are a proxy too, your email needs to say, Hi  Cheri, 
George Mello is matching my cousin, Jane Doe, on the Family Finder  test.

Or something along those lines.

To change the kit to read  First Name - Last Name (contact is ), do 
this:
1) Log into your FTDNA  account
2) On the blue navigation bar, point at My Account, and choose  Contact 
Information.
3) In the LAST NAME field, put (contact is _)  and fill in your name. 
(My dad's last name is: Mello, Jr (contact is  Cheri).

The more people that do this, then Family Tree DNA  will have their 
customer service reps suggest this.

Cheri  Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin
Azores DNA Project
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...

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Wish I knew that years ago, would have saved so much anxiety.
 
Ally
 
 
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edward.s.rodrig...@att.net writes:

My  understanding is if you are the original person that took the picture 
you have  the copy right.  I believe if you posted the photo first and it 
belongs  to you unless its someone else photo.  
I know that they have a way that you can place a lable over the top of  the 
photo. I see it on photos for sale on e-bay all the time. But I don't know  
how to do it. Maybe someone on the list know how.
You can view the photo but it has writing over the top so its worthless  if 
you try to make a copy of it.
Edward


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Thank you for posting this Edward ~ I hope using it will be helpful for  
others in the future.
 
Questions ~ do you have to copy write your pictures before posting  them, 
and if so how?  
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
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Cheri ~
 
Okay - I just remembered using google, typing in my surname, and  the 
conversation from our group came up.  So, I scare easy.just  call me 
chicken BIG
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2012 11:40:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
_gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com)  writes:

Ally said:
And before anyone confesses too much,  remember we are on a web site, and 
everything that is said on  the web ~ STAYS ON THE WEB ~ FOREVER.

Ally, please don't scare people.  This is not a Web site.  Azores  GenWeb 
is a Web site.  Ancestry and FamilySearch  are Web sites (albeit dynamic Web 
sites).

This is a list serv.  It has an email list which most  people use.  It also 
has a forum or  web board or archive where messages are stored and can  be 
read by anybody. Google searches can crawl the  board/forum.  I can remove 
messages  and I do.  These are usually sent out  in error (someone wanted to 
email Aunt Ann and the Azores email addy pops up and it goes out to the 
whole  list).  I also have the ability to delete the  entire thing if I want 
to. 
 So  even the forum/board/archive may not  stay forever.

Even when using the Internet  Archive or Wayback Machine, I can't always  
get pages to display.  It doesn't work on dynamic  webpages.  I'm talking 
about the  static ones.  And you have to have the 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...

[netadosAcores]

Thank you for posting this Edward ~ I hope using it will be helpful for  
others in the future.
 
Questions ~ do you have to copy write your pictures before posting them,  
and if so how?  
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
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Cheri ~
 
Okay - I just remembered using google, typing in my surname, and the  
conversation from our group came up.  So, I scare easy.just call me  
chicken BIG
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2012 11:40:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
_gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com)  writes:

Ally  said:
And before anyone confesses too much, remember we are on  a web site, and 
everything that is said on the web ~ STAYS ON THE WEB ~  FOREVER.

Ally, please don't  scare people.  This is not a Web  site.  Azores GenWeb 
is a Web site.  Ancestry and  FamilySearch are Web sites (albeit dynamic Web 
 sites).

This is a list serv.  It has an email  list which most people use.  It also 
has a forum or web board or archive where messages are stored and can be 
read by anybody. Google searches can crawl the board/forum.  I can  remove 
messages and I do.  These are  usually sent out in error (someone wanted to 
email Aunt Ann  and the Azores email addy pops up and it goes out to the  whole 
list).  I also have the ability to delete the  entire thing if I want to.  
So  even the forum/board/archive may not stay forever.

Even when using the Internet Archive or Wayback Machine, I can't always get 
pages to  display.  It doesn't work on dynamic webpages.  I'm talking about 
the static ones.  And you have to have the URL from way back  when as well. 
 

I can't imagine that anyone on this list wouldn't want info about  their 
ancestors out there.  I've had messages where people have had  to hunt me down 
(I used to have AOL) and I find a new  cousin!  

The purpose of this list is to help  people research their genealogy and 
make connections.  As the list grows, I really have to adhere more and  more 
to our purpose.  So don't be surprised when I ask  for certain non-genealogy 
topics to stop being posted.  I used to say  we average 10-15 messages a 
day.  I just ran the stats and we are  averaging 14.73 messages a day.  Only 
twice this year did we have  less than 400 messages that month.  Guess I need 
to change the group  description to 15-20 messages a  day.   This is a lot 
of messages, especially for those who are still in the work  force.  So the 
focus needs to remain on genealogy.  And with 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...

[netadosAcores]

There is a helpful thing on Ancestry, when you first log on ~ where it  
shows others who may be searching the ancestor that you are looking for, what  
they have added to their tree, be it pictures, docs, or census records.  If  
you want to click on their tree to see what was added you can.  Some of  
these tree owners I have never heard of before, so it's not someone who I have 
 spoken with in the passed.
 
Ancestry is there to make money, and the more hints that they are able to  
share with you, the happier the world on Ancestry can be.  Except when you  
are dealing with people who want to collect as many relatives as possible.  
 
I wonder if anyone from Ancestry monitors trees for validity.
 
And before anyone confesses too much, remember we are on a web site, and  
everything that is said on the web ~ STAYS ON THE WEB ~ FOREVER.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/16/2012 10:17:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

About  the pictures...Most pictures you can right click your mouse button 
and choose  Save Picture As.. and capture the photo that way.  I've had my 
pictures  from Find A Grave show up on Ancestry.  No one ever asks.  I 
always  ask, unless there's a disclaimer already there that says to go ahead 
and 
use  the photo.  Besides, asking probably means I'm talking to a cousin.   
Heck, I even asked JR for one of his scenic pictures to use on the cover of  
one of our scores in band.  His name is credited as the photographer,  even 
though only only future band directors will see it.

The only place  my tree can be found is on Family Tree DNA and the only 
people who can see it  are those who have taken a DNA test and are matches.  
However, I've  always kind of wondered about being a bit devious (if I had the 
time) and  putting a tree out there...complete with Ozzie and Harriet 
Nelson, Ward and  June Cleaver, George and Martha Washington, and Fred and 
Wilma 
Flintstone as  my relatives.  I wondered how many people who would blindly 
copy  it.  Heck for that matter, if I attach a picture of Barbara Billingsley 
 (actress who played June Cleaver) to my grandmother, I wonder how many 
people  would copy that!

Hope I just made someone's Friday brighter! 
Cheri  Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...

[netadosAcores]

Cheri ~
 
Okay - I just remembered using google, typing in my surname, and the  
conversation from our group came up.  So, I scare easy.just call me  
chicken BIG
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2012 11:40:36 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Ally  said:
And before anyone confesses too much, remember we are on a  web site, and 
everything that is said on the web ~ STAYS ON THE WEB ~  FOREVER.

Ally, please don't scare  people.  This is not a Web site.  Azores  GenWeb 
is a Web site.  Ancestry and FamilySearch are Web  sites (albeit dynamic Web 
sites).

This is a  list serv.  It has an email list which most people use.  It also 
has a forum or web board or archive where  messages are stored and can be 
read by anybody. Google  searches can crawl the board/forum.  I can remove 
messages and I do.   These are usually sent out in error (someone  wanted to 
email Aunt Ann and the Azores email addy  pops up and it goes out to the 
whole list).  I also have the ability to delete the entire thing if I want  to. 
 
So even the forum/board/archive may not stay forever.

Even when  using the Internet Archive or Wayback Machine, I  can't always 
get pages to display.  It doesn't work on  dynamic webpages.  I'm talking 
about the  static ones.  And you have to have the URL from way back when as 
well.  

I can't imagine  that anyone on this list wouldn't want info about  their 
ancestors out there.  I've had messages where people have had to  hunt me 
down (I used to have AOL) and I find a new cousin!   

The purpose of this list is to help people research  their genealogy and 
make connections.  As the list grows, I  really have to adhere more and more 
to our purpose.  So don't be surprised when I ask for certain  non-genealogy 
topics to stop being posted.  I used to say we average  10-15 messages a 
day.  I just ran the stats and we are averaging 14.73  messages a day.  Only 
twice this year did we have less than 400 messages  that month.  Guess I need 
to change the group description to 15-20  messages a  day.   This is a lot 
of messages, especially for those who are still in the work  force.  So the 
focus needs to remain on genealogy.  And with that  many messages, you can 
see why a good subject/topic in the email is needed  entice as many people to 
read your email as you can.

Hope this clears  up what a list-serv is and some of the things we do here.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...

[netadosAcores]

Terri ~
 
Patsy and I had the same situation, where someone turned a branch and  
replanted it on their tree.  It wasn't so much that the names were now  
attached 
to the wrong tree, but we felt so violated that both  our  Grandfather's 
pictures were stolen.  This idiot could not even attached the  info correctly. 
 My Father was now married to his sister.
 
Both of us wrote her.   Patsy, being a kind person, even went so  far as to 
research out their proper line and show how the two families were NOT  
related.
 
But the fact that the pictures were not being removed was wrong.
 
Besides posting a comment at the bottom of the page, there is also an area  
below the picture to write a comment.
 
I am not a program writer, so I don't know the difficulty for Ancestry to  
have a program that would allow others to read the information, or see a  
picture, but have to write for permission of the tree owner to share that  
information.  Wishful thinking.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2012 11:13:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
terr...@rogers.com writes:

Thanks everyoneYes I did leave a comment back on October  12th. Your 
right...if someone looks up their tree , hopefully they'll see  my comment and 
think twice before  linking themselves to this persons  info. And Mary, 
like youI think what bothers me most is that  they are also using my 
Grandfathers picture as their own and there isn't  anything I can do about 
that. 
 
Terri Santos
 

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:12:25 PM UTC-5, Terri wrote:

I had the opportunity a while ago, to go on Ancestory.com thanks  to a 
cousin of mine who has a subscription.  Looking at her tree and  the 'hint' 
leaves that are flashing...i got curious to see what else they  may have online 
about him.  Someone unknown to us is using my  grandfathers picture, his 
name and my grandmothers name on their own  tree.  This person on Ancestory has 
my grandfather being buried in  California when he's actually buried here 
in Canada.  They also have  him married to a second woman and that just is 
WRONG!!! I've already wrote  to this person twice but they've never replied.  
Any suggestions on  what else I could do to make sure the wrong info isn't 
out there about my  family?
Thanks,
Terri Santos
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Eric,
 
You are right, Godparents are usually a relative or close  friend.  In this 
case, Maria Furtado, was a close friend, not married  to any of the Anselmo 
brothers (8), or Pine (Pinheiro) brother.  My Father  never referred to her 
as his Aunt.   He also, never mentioned who  his God Father was.  It is 
possible that he didn't have a God Father,  possible but not likely.  
 
The only time she was mentioned is when he gave me her picture.  So if  I 
learn the name of the God Father, I would know if it was Maria's  husband, or 
one of the uncle's.  If the God Father was Maria's  husband, it would be 
easier to identify her family, living in Pleasanton, or  Eden Township, etc.  
The church has the name of the God Father, if only  they will share that 
info.
 
Since my Father was born in 1912, I don't know how any Anselmo or Pine  
(Pinheiro)  information would be of value when researching for a non  relative, 
Furtado.
 
My original inquiry was if any member may have an ancestor  whose name  was 
Maria Furtado, so that I would be able to share her picture with them.
 
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/1/2012 11:49:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
noblankt...@gmail.com writes:

Ally,   


St Augustine's is where all my children are baptized, communion etc. On  
their records there is nothing more than a first and last name of the  
godparents. I don't think it's likely that the records from 100 years ago are  
any 
different. 


The records for the Diocese of Oakland are kept at St Patricks Seminary  in 
Menlo Park. You can make appointments to research there. It could be a lot  
of effort to find the same thing you already know. 



I'd try a different approach. Godparents are usually the  parents  family 
members or close family friends. Look at all the parents siblings,  
grandparents etc


The most important information for this search is missing. You never  
stated you father's name, or his parents names, where they came from or when  
they arrived in the US.


Eric Edgar

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:19 PM, _netadosAcores@aol.com_ 
(mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  wrote:


Eric,
 
Funny you should mention that.  The information came from my  Father.
 
Do you recall the old adobe home on Foothill Road?  We drove by it  all the 
time when I was a child, and my Father always said that it was  the 
Alamo.  I got into an argument with my 4th grade  teacher, I thought he was 
the 
stupidest person alive, to think that the  Alamo was fought in Texas!  My 
Father had a unique since of  humor.
 
As soon as the church answers my letter, maybe we will know more.   And 
that will depend on if it was her husband who was his God Father.
 
Ally
 
 



 
In a message dated 11/1/2012 1:46:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
_noblanktree@gmail.com_ (mailto:noblankt...@gmail.com)  writes:

I'll add  that it is possible that  Maria Furtado did not live in 
Pleasanton.  It's not a requirement for a godparent. Do you have any other 
records or 
 stories that tie her to Pleasanton. None of my childrens godparents live  
in the county.  


Eric Edgar 

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Robin Borba  Besotes 
_besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net)  wrote:

Ally,
 
Keep me posted if you find any information from the church.   My 2nd great 
grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married  in San Mateo County 
and other than that information I have no other  connections to her Furtado's. 
 It wasn't until I met a cousin  online who lives Texas who happened to 
additional information from her  grandmother about our mutual 2nd great 
grandmother and provided me with  her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. 
 
Once I had this,  everything fell into place.
 
As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back  as I 
can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores.  The only place I  currently have 
a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to  the time she 
married.  

Good luck on your search,
 
Robin Borba Besotes
 


On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally  wrote:

 
Robin ~
 
Sorry to answer you so late.  We had carpet laid and I had  to empty two 
rooms of pure junk collection!  I'm having a field  day tossing, sorting, and 
donating.and then I found this  picture.
 
The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she  was my 
Father's Godmother.  So, that would be her married  name.  The picture is WWII 
era, maybe 1942.  She would be at  least 30 years older than my Father.  By 
looking at the picture  she is in her 60's or 70's.
 
My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton.  So I'm guessing  that his 
christening was soon after his birth.
 
I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton.   There  is a Mary, but she 
would be way too young to fit this picture.
 
The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in  
Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960.  So far no luck.  But I  have written the 
Catholic 
Church in Pleasanton and 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Eric,
 
Funny you should mention that.  The information came from my  Father.
 
Do you recall the old adobe home on Foothill Road?  We drove by it all  the 
time when I was a child, and my Father always said that it was  the 
Alamo.  I got into an argument with my 4th grade  teacher, I thought he was 
the 
stupidest person alive, to think that the  Alamo was fought in Texas!  My 
Father had a unique since of  humor.
 
As soon as the church answers my letter, maybe we will know more.  And  
that will depend on if it was her husband who was his God Father.
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/1/2012 1:46:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
noblankt...@gmail.com writes:

I'll add  that it is possible that  Maria Furtado did not live in 
Pleasanton. It's  not a requirement for a godparent. Do you have any other 
records or 
stories  that tie her to Pleasanton. None of my childrens godparents live 
in the  county.  


Eric Edgar 

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Robin Borba Besotes  
_besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net)  wrote:

Ally,
 
Keep me posted if you find any information from the church.   My 2nd great 
grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in  San Mateo County 
and other than that information I have no other connections  to her Furtado's. 
 It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives  Texas who happened to 
additional information from her grandmother about our  mutual 2nd great 
grandmother and provided me with her full last name of  Furtado Jorge do Souto. 
 
Once I had this, everything fell into  place.
 
As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as  I 
can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores.  The only place I  currently have 
a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the  time she 
married.  

Good luck on your search,
 
Robin Borba Besotes
 


On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote:

 
Robin ~
 
Sorry to answer you so late.  We had carpet laid and I had to  empty two 
rooms of pure junk collection!  I'm having a field day  tossing, sorting, and 
donating.and then I found this  picture.
 
The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was  my 
Father's Godmother.  So, that would be her married name.  The  picture is WWII 
era, maybe 1942.  She would be at least 30 years  older than my Father.  By 
looking at the picture she is in her 60's  or 70's.
 
My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton.  So I'm guessing that  his 
christening was soon after his birth.
 
I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton.   There is a  Mary, but she 
would be way too young to fit this picture.
 
The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in  
Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960.  So far no luck.  But I have  written the 
Catholic 
Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his  name.
 
I'll let you know what I find.
 
Ally




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Rick ~
 
No Saint Augustine's.  I had wrote to them a few years ago, and  the church 
clerk called me back and said that they no longer look up  ancestors for 
people.  She said that the Pope put a stop to information  being given out 
without the written permission of ones Bishop.
 
This has been a headache for the last two years.
 
One of the items on my bucket list is to meet with my Bishop's clerk, who  
at the moment is on vacation.  So once he returns, I will make an  
appointment and he will write another letter, and maybe this time, Patsy and I  
will 
get our long awaited copies.  One can only hope.
 
Ally
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2012 1:16:27 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net writes:

 
I would think the  church records would give the full names of the god  
parents. 
 
Rick 
Richard Francis  Pimentel 
Spring,  TX 
Formerly of  Epping, New Hampshire  
Researching,  Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
Ponta  Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
From:  azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of  netadosaco...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:42  PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton,  CA

 
Robin  ~
 

 
Sorry  to answer you so late.  We had carpet laid and I had to empty two 
rooms  of pure junk collection!  I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and  
donating.and then I found this picture.
 

 
The  only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my 
Father's  Godmother.  So, that would be her married name.  The picture is WWII 
 era, maybe 1942.  She would be at least 30 years older than my  Father.  
By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or  70's.
 

 
My  Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton.  So I'm guessing that his  
christening was soon after his birth.
 

 
I'm  not finding anything of her in Pleasanton.   There is a Mary, but  she 
would be way too young to fit this picture.
 

 
The  Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in 
Pleasanton  between 1900 and 1960.  So far no luck.  But I have written the  
Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his  name.
 

 
I'll  let you know what I find.
 

 
Ally
 

 
 
In a  message dated 10/2/2012 9:41:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time (Me, 
_besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net)   writes:

 
Ally,
 

 
Could  you provide me additional information on your Furtado's in 
Pleasanton?   

My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto of Salao,  Faial, 
Azores, born 10 Jun 1864 married Jose de Rocha Borba in Half Moon  Bay, CA in 
1884.  They resided in San Jose, CA until her death in 1937.  
 

 
I've  recently traced this line back to 1687 to Ana Furtado Inacia and her  
husband Manuel Pereira Prede.  I would be happy to check my records to  see 
if there maybe a connection to our  Furtado's.
 

 
Robin Borba  Besotes 
Researching:   Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge,  Souto 
Islands:   Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores 
California  Towns:   Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, 
Hollister,  Watsonville, Half Moon Bay 
 (http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes) 
 

On  Monday, October 1, 2012 6:44:11 PM UTC-7, Ally  wrote:

 
 
Leanne  ~
 

 
Thank  you for researching her on Ancestry.   That was very kind of you  to 
do the research.
 

 
I  have a picture of my Father with this person.  I wrote Saint  Augustine 
Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would  please give me 
the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton  Museum and I could 
identify her in the  picture.
 

 
They  were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the woman in 
the  picture.  I was hoping that someone in the group was a Furtado whose  
Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early 1900's.   
 

 
Anyway,  thank you again, for your time and assistance.  I will add the 
info  that you shared with the picture.
 

 

 

 
Ally
Vieira  Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel
Pinheiro  Nunes ~  Faial


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Thanks Eric,
 
The Mary that was born in 1905, is too young to be the Mary/Godmother to my 
 Father.  The picture that I have, she is at least 30 years older than he  
is, if not 40 years older. Also, she immigrated in 1921.  My  Father was 
born in 1912, and was baptized soon after.
 
I'm going to write to St. Augustine again, and ask if they will give the  
name of the godfather.  The only reason that they gave me her name, is that  
I sent them a copy of the picture and copied Judy at the Pleasanton Museum, 
as  proof it was for Pleasanton Historical records and not for anything else.
 
I did write Judy, at the PT Museum, just in case she happens to know or  
have info on the Furtado family.   In doing the research with her at  the 
museum, we found out that her Father and mine, attended Amador High at the  
same 
time, as they were in many pictures together.  We are having fun,  
exchanging notes and as I am sorting through my years of mess, I am sending her 
 
pictures for the museum.
 
Thank you for your help ~  I'll be in town the week before Mother's  Day 
2013.  Maybe we can visit before you go on your shift.
 
Ally
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/30/2012 7:11:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
noblankt...@gmail.com writes:

Ally,   


According to the 1957 Pleasanton phone book , there are no Furtado  
families listed. The 1940 census also lists no  Furtado in town. The 1930  
shows 
Manuel and Mary Furtado, children Mary born in 1926 in Rhode Island,  Edward, 
b. 1929, and John b. 1930 in California. It says Mary was born 1905,  
Azores, and immigrated in 1921.


Saw your note at work, maybe next trip.




Eric Edgar

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, _netadosAcores@aol.com_ 
(mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  wrote:


Robin ~
 
Sorry to answer you so late.  We had carpet laid and I had to  empty two 
rooms of pure junk collection!  I'm having a field day  tossing, sorting, and 
donating.and then I found this picture.
 
The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my  
Father's Godmother.  So, that would be her married name.  The  picture is WWII 
era, maybe 1942.  She would be at least 30 years older  than my Father.  By 
looking at the picture she is in her 60's or  70's.
 
My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton.  So I'm guessing that  his 
christening was soon after his birth.
 
I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton.   There is a  Mary, but she 
would be way too young to fit this picture.
 
The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in  
Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960.  So far no luck.  But I have  written the 
Catholic 
Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his  name.
 
I'll let you know what I find.
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 10/2/2012 9:41:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time (Me,  
_besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net)  writes:

Ally,
 
Could you provide me additional information on your Furtado's in  
Pleasanton?  

My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do  Souto of Salao, Faial, 
Azores, born 10 Jun 1864 married Jose de Rocha  Borba in Half Moon Bay, CA in 
1884.  They resided in San Jose, CA  until her death in 1937. 
 
I've recently traced this line back to 1687 to Ana Furtado  Inacia and her 
husband Manuel Pereira Prede.  I would be happy  to check my records to see 
if there maybe a connection to our  Furtado's.
 
 
Robin Borba  Besotes 
Researching:   Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge,  Souto 
Islands:   Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial,  Flores 
California  Towns:   Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, 
Hollister,  Watsonville, Half Moon  Bay 
 (http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes) 

On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:44:11 PM UTC-7, Ally wrote:

 
Leanne ~
 
Thank you for researching her on Ancestry.   That was  very kind of you to 
do the research.
 
I have a picture of my Father with this person.  I wrote Saint  Augustine 
Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would  please give me 
the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton  Museum and I could 
identify her in the picture.
 
They were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the  woman in 
the picture.  I was hoping that someone in the group was a  Furtado whose 
Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early  1900's.  
 
Anyway, thank you again, for your time and assistance.  I will  add the 
info that you shared with the picture.
 
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao  Miguel
Pinheiro  Nunes ~  Faial


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Robin ~
 
Sorry to answer you so late.  We had carpet laid and I had to empty  two 
rooms of pure junk collection!  I'm having a field day tossing,  sorting, and 
donating.and then I found this picture.
 
The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my  
Father's Godmother.  So, that would be her married name.  The picture  is WWII 
era, maybe 1942.  She would be at least 30 years older than my  Father.  By 
looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's.
 
My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton.  So I'm guessing that his  
christening was soon after his birth.
 
I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton.   There is a Mary,  but she 
would be way too young to fit this picture.
 
The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in  
Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960.  So far no luck.  But I have written  the 
Catholic 
Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name.
 
I'll let you know what I find.
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 10/2/2012 9:41:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time (Me,  
beso...@succeed.net writes:

Ally,
 
Could you provide me additional information on your Furtado's in  
Pleasanton?  

My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto  of Salao, Faial, 
Azores, born 10 Jun 1864 married Jose de Rocha Borba in Half  Moon Bay, CA in 
1884.  They resided in San Jose, CA until her death in  1937. 
 
I've recently traced this line back to 1687 to Ana Furtado  Inacia and her 
husband Manuel Pereira Prede.  I would be happy to  check my records to see 
if there maybe a connection to our Furtado's.
 
 
Robin Borba  Besotes 
Researching:  Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa,  Jacinto, Jorge, Souto 
Islands:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial,  Flores 
California  Towns:  Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose,  Milpitas, Tres Pinos, 
Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon  Bay 
 (http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes) 

On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:44:11 PM UTC-7, Ally wrote:

 
Leanne ~
 
Thank you for researching her on Ancestry.   That was very  kind of you to 
do the research.
 
I have a picture of my Father with this person.  I wrote Saint  Augustine 
Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would please  give me 
the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton Museum and I  could 
identify her in the picture.
 
They were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the woman in  
the picture.  I was hoping that someone in the group was a Furtado  whose 
Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early 1900's.  
 
Anyway, thank you again, for your time and assistance.  I will add  the 
info that you shared with the picture.
 
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao  Miguel
Pinheiro  Nunes ~ Faial


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Opportunity Saudade

[netadosAcores]

Thank you for posting the article ~ I enjoyed reading it.
 
Ally
Sao Miguel
 
 
In a message dated 10/27/2012 5:06:57 P.M. Mountain Standard Time (M,  
felicia.via...@gmail.com writes:

A friend pointed me to this group. Thanks very much for all the kind  words 
about my paper. I appreciate the feedback, especially from those of you  
with immigrant relatives. It is incredible to me when I hear strangers'  
stories about their own Azorean immigrant heritage, and I see there are so  
many 
parallels to mine. Alzira in this work is my own grandmother, and there  
are others in the research who I knew well. That made the project especially  
rewarding, but also very challenging because I wanted to be sure I  
represented, as best as I possibly could, the Azorean immigrant experience  
broadly. I wanted to be sure that the research honored not just the history of  
my 
family, but the histories of so many California Azorean families. I hope  
I've done that for those of you who took the time to read it. 


Thanks again. 


Do meu coração, 
Felicia 


On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:32:38 AM UTC-7,  Steve Peters wrote:  
Felicia Angeja Viator has written a very good paper about  Azorean 
immigrants in California after WW II, published in Hindsight, a  publication of 
the 
History Dept. at Fresno State. Gives a lot of insight  into the Azorean 
immigrant experience at the time, especially for women.  It's a 28-page PDF:

_http://www.fresnostate.edu/http://www.fresnostate.edu/http://www.fresnostat
e.ehttp://www.fres_ 
(http://www.fresnostate.edu/socialsciences/historydept/organizations/hindsight/spring2012.html)
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

Leanne ~
 
Thank you for researching her on Ancestry.   That was very kind  of you to 
do the research.
 
I have a picture of my Father with this person.  I wrote Saint  Augustine 
Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would please give  me 
the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton Museum and I could  
identify her in the picture.
 
They were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the woman in the 
 picture.  I was hoping that someone in the group was a Furtado whose  
Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early 1900's.  
 
Anyway, thank you again, for your time and assistance.  I will add the  
info that you shared with the picture.
 
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel
Pinheiro  Nunes ~  Faial

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado in Pleasanton, CA

[netadosAcores]

According  to our records her name is Mary I. Furtado
 
Does anyone have this person in their family tree?  She would  be living in 
Pleasanton, CA during 1910 - 1940.
 
Thanks
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel
Pinheiro  Nunes ~  Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim Francisco Avila

[netadosAcores]

No, they are from Praia  do Almoxarife, mostly.  
 
Going  further back I've found a group of Furtados, in Pedro Miguel.  This 
group  of Ancestors is from the NEPS site, and I have not documented them 
yet.   Maybe next year.
 
 
Ally 
Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel 
Pinheiro  Nunes ~ Faial
 
 
 

 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2012 2:07:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Me,  
shir...@digitalpath.net writes:

Ally:  My husband has PINHEIRO ancestors from Feteira, Faial.
 
Are your Pinheiros from Feteira?
 
Shirley in CA
 
 
om: _netadosAcores@aol.com_ (mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  

To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com)  
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:33  AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim  Francisco Avila


Celeste,
 
Thank you, it's a reality check for all of us.  Patsy and I remind  
ourselves often, what we owe our Great Grandparents for their struggle to  pay 
the 
family passage from Sao Miguel, working in Hawaii and settle in  CA.  We 
have received the blessings of their sacrifices. 
 
Including the friendships of this group.
 
Ally 
Vieira Anselmo  ~ Sao Miguel 
Pinheiro  Nunes ~ Faial
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2012 11:44:17 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time (M,  
ccgran...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Fred, from my first trip to the continent in 1989 until my last  trip to 
the Azores in 2009, I have not found any relatives that give 2  hoots about 
the dead ancestors.  I have felt I am looked upon as  strange to be digging up 
the dead, as my mother used to say.
 
Having  said that, my connection to a genealogy researcher in the Azores 
has been  a blessing.  He has met me in Porto, driven to the village where my  
grandfather was born, and onto the archives.  He has traced this  branch of 
the family back to the beginning of the records and even found  the father 
of someone whose baptismal records recorded the father as,  unknown.  This 
happened because he was searching for records of  those who wanted to 
become priests and they had to prove they were  catholic.  This does not 
happen 
very often; however, in my case it  gave me more information than I would 
have been able to find.
 
On  one of my visits, I was even asked why I was spending time and money  
looking for ancestors.  The look that accompanied this question told  me 
that, in most cases, the day to day struggle to feed the family, make a  living 
and deal with many things we take for granted does not leave much  time for 
even thinking of long ago family.  
 
The  immediate living family I found to be very important.  I thought  
about this and realized when I visited cemeteries that, in most  cases, there 
were not even grave markers beyond about the  1980's.  People lived, people 
died, those that live now are just  struggling to keep on living.
 
Hope  this helps.  Celeste, Hayward, CA
 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


 
 

From: Frederick Souza  fsouz...@comcast.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com  
Sent: Thursday,  September 20, 2012 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]  Joaquim Francisco Avila



Hi all,  


I have been getting and reading the many emails that come in through  this 
site for the past couple of months and it has occurred to me that  most of 
the communities in the Azores are quite small and everyone knows  everyone 
else (indeed may be related at some level).  I have only  been over there once 
and only met a small part of the family members who  are there because as 
it was explained to me most of them live in a  different town than where my 
grandparents grew up having moved there after  Salazar left power when things 
vastly improved.


My question is whether or not some of you who have been at this  genealogy 
business for long time have found that the family members who  are over 
there are in the least bit interested in tracing their roots.  Does one reach a 
point where you can get to a town where those who  came to the US originated 
from and then find someone who has worked on the  lineage back to the great 
great and further level?  Just wondering  what to expect if I am ever able 
to get anywhere with this side of the  pond because it would seem to make 
sense to somehow connect with a living  human being on that end who has some 
info.


Thoughts and suggestions greatly appreciated...
Fred Souza

On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Robert Ross wrote:


Hello Linda,  
I have some some coincidences in my searches to yours  (though there are 
stumbling blocks, too):
   Both of my maternal grandparents were born on Pico.  Adelaide Caroline 
Costa, my grandmother, came to the U.S. in 1910 and  was from Bandeiras. 
Antonio Inacio de Brum, my grandfather came in 1892  and was from Lages do 
Pico. 
His last name was Americanized [and  misspelled] from Inacio to Enas. 
   My grandfather's maternal grandmother was a Maria  Macedo. I only have a 
date for her death, 1893. Trouble is that I have a  Antonio Louis 
Bettencourt as her spouse, not Joaquim Francisco Avila. If  your Maria 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim Francisco Avila

[netadosAcores]

Celeste,
 
Thank you, it's a reality check for all of us.  Patsy and I remind  
ourselves often, what we owe our Great Grandparents for their struggle to pay  
the 
family passage from Sao Miguel, working in Hawaii and settle in CA.  We  
have received the blessings of their sacrifices. 
 
Including the friendships of this group.
 
Ally 
Vieira Anselmo  ~ Sao Miguel 
Pinheiro  Nunes ~ Faial
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2012 11:44:17 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time (M,  
ccgran...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Fred, from my first trip to the continent in 1989 until my last  trip to 
the Azores in 2009, I have not found any relatives that give 2 hoots  about 
the dead ancestors.  I have felt I am looked upon as strange to be  digging up 
the dead, as my mother used to say.
 
Having  said that, my connection to a genealogy researcher in the Azores 
has been a  blessing.  He has met me in Porto, driven to the village where my  
grandfather was born, and onto the archives.  He has traced this branch  of 
the family back to the beginning of the records and even found the father  
of someone whose baptismal records recorded the father as, unknown.   This 
happened because he was searching for records of those who wanted to  
become priests and they had to prove they were catholic.  This does not  
happen 
very often; however, in my case it gave me more information than I  would 
have been able to find.
 
On  one of my visits, I was even asked why I was spending time and money 
looking  for ancestors.  The look that accompanied this question told me that, 
in  most cases, the day to day struggle to feed the family, make a living 
and deal  with many things we take for granted does not leave much time for 
even  thinking of long ago family.  
 
The  immediate living family I found to be very important.  I thought about 
 this and realized when I visited cemeteries that, in most cases, there  
were not even grave markers beyond about the 1980's.  People lived,  people 
died, those that live now are just struggling to keep on  living.
 
Hope  this helps.  Celeste, Hayward, CA
 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


 
 

From: Frederick Souza  fsouz...@comcast.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:01  AM
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim Francisco Avila



Hi all,  


I have been getting and reading the many emails that come in through this  
site for the past couple of months and it has occurred to me that most of 
the  communities in the Azores are quite small and everyone knows everyone 
else  (indeed may be related at some level).  I have only been over there once  
and only met a small part of the family members who are there because as it 
 was explained to me most of them live in a different town than where my  
grandparents grew up having moved there after Salazar left power when things  
vastly improved.


My question is whether or not some of you who have been at this genealogy  
business for long time have found that the family members who are over there 
 are in the least bit interested in tracing their roots.  Does one reach a  
point where you can get to a town where those who came to the US originated 
 from and then find someone who has worked on the lineage back to the great 
 great and further level?  Just wondering what to expect if I am ever able  
to get anywhere with this side of the pond because it would seem to make 
sense  to somehow connect with a living human being on that end who has some  
info.


Thoughts and suggestions greatly appreciated...
Fred Souza

On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Robert Ross wrote:


Hello Linda,  
I have some some coincidences in my searches to yours  (though there are 
stumbling blocks, too):
   Both of my maternal grandparents were born on Pico.  Adelaide Caroline 
Costa, my grandmother, came to the U.S. in 1910 and was  from Bandeiras. 
Antonio Inacio de Brum, my grandfather came in 1892 and was  from Lages do 
Pico. 
His last name was Americanized [and misspelled] from  Inacio to Enas. 
   My grandfather's maternal grandmother was a Maria Macedo.  I only have a 
date for her death, 1893. Trouble is that I have a Antonio  Louis 
Bettencourt as her spouse, not Joaquim Francisco Avila. If your Maria  and my 
Maria 
were similar in age, my Maria could have been biologically able  to give 
birth to a daughter (also named Maria) who gave birth to my  grandfather in 
1879. (maybe?) 
Anyway, everyone in my grandfather's family was from  Lages do Pico and 
I only know of his sister moving to the U.S. Antonio's  family (Enas) 
settled in Visalia, California. Antonio's sister (Mrs. Joseph  Pedro), settled 
in 
Pendleton, Oregon. 
Good Luck on your search. I've found there are popular  names that seem 
to be used over again for different reasons. Lages seems  like a small 
place with dozens and dozens of cousins.   Bob Ross  
_bob.ross682@gmail.com_ (mailto:bob.ross...@gmail.com) 

On Sep 1, 2012, at 12:46 AM, David Leitz wrote:


Does 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Writing the family history

[netadosAcores]

Len ~
 
This is very personal, and each of us has to make that same decision  
regarding some of our ancestors. 
 
What I decided, was how do I want each of these ancestors  remembered?
 
Some of my memories are not from the passed generation.   Where  stories 
are being retold, with a possible twist in the telling.  The  Ancestor of 
yesterday, obviously being gone, is not able to refute the charges  or tell 
their side of the story.  And like any accident, if you have 3  witnesses, you 
have 3 different versions of the same accident plus the accounts  of the two 
involved.  That's 5 different accounts.
 
What I have chosen to do, especially with a few of my flawed relatives, was 
 to just make a few notes about their better qualities that I would want 
them to  be remembered by.
 
On the other hand, if there was criminal activity, I would include that  
story along with any source that provided those facts.
 
It's your family history, and you can write about your interactions with  
the people as they affected you.  Now if you want to write what others had  
to say, you can always use their words and their name as  your source, but 
be sure you have their written permission first.
 
 AVA
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/10/2012 1:52:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Me,  
lensi...@lenstudio.com writes:

I have  been researching my grandfather in the hopes of writing a history 
for the  coming generations  and to satisfy the curiosity of my family about 
their  heritage.

After some research, I find that the kindly old man that I  knew as a child 
may not have been all that nice.  Stories are starting to  arise of abuse, 
excessive drinking, and estrangement of his  children.

My father was a product of his second marriage and cared a  lot for his 
parents.  Vovoo was an old man of 75 when I was born, and I  only knew a sweet, 
kind old man who loved me.  Now, I am finding that the  children of his 
first marriage did not hold him in such high  esteem.

So, my question for the group is:  If you were putting  together a family 
history for the generations to come, how would you handle  this?

Most of the stories are hearsay as there is no one alive with  direct 
knowledge, but there must be something to them.

I am inclined to  be very honest in relating family stories, but I wonder 
how some of you might  handle this.

Thanks for your input,

Len
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vargas of Eden Canyon, Castro Valley, CA

[netadosAcores]

I knew John Vierra, whose family lived at the beginning of  Palomares 
Canyon.   Was that the Palomares school next to their  home?
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2012 7:30:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Mex,  
pamsanto...@gmail.com writes:

I know  there are Viera's in Palomares Canyon my inlaws live there. Their 
children  went to school with mine.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Palomares School

[netadosAcores]

Pam,
 
I have an early print of the school house.  I want to say that they  only 
printed 100 copies.  h wonder where it is.
 
Ally

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Vargas of Eden Canyon, Castro Valley, CA

[netadosAcores]

Was someone asking about Vargas or Davilla in Eden Canyon, Castro Valley,  
CA?

When chatting with Madeline (another lister) about  Transfiguration Church, 
I brought out my book Our First 25 Years ~ 1961 -  1986. Madeline said 
that someone from the group was asking about a Vargas  from Eden Canyon. 

Godmother wrote about the first Mass, April 16,  1961. Those in attendance 
Frank and Anna Davilla. 
Madeline thinks that Anna  was Daniel Vargas' daughter.

If you live in CA, you might want to call  the Parish and ask to look at 
their book. If they don't have a copy, I will be  in Castro Valley at the end 
of the month and could bring my book, for you to  look over and see if 
there are any pictures of you family. 

Write me  off line @ _netadosacores@aol.com_ (mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1890 Hawaiian Residence Directory

[netadosAcores]

OOPS!  minor detail.
 
I was on Ancestry.com.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/30/2012 11:10:27 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time (M,  
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net writes:

 
That only shows  the first page. Do you have the link where you found it? 
That might let  everyone look at the rest of the book. 
 
Rick 
Richard Francis  Pimentel 
Spring,  TX 
Formerly of  Epping, New Hampshire  
Researching,  Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,  
Bretanha,  Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
From:  azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of  netadosaco...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:36  AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]  1890 Hawaiian Residence Directory

 
Group,
 

 
Found  this by accident.  Had no idea that the Hawaiian Kingdom had any 
type of  Residential Directory back then, especially of  laborers.
 

 
Don't  know if viewing this link will let you turn pages or not.  So maybe 
if  you choose a name and go onto Ancestry.com the page will come up again, 
and  then you can turn the pages at the top of the  form.
 

 
If  you want to do a search to get here on what I as  using:
 

 
Jacintho  Vieira Anselmo
 

 
b:   1840
 

 
Soa  Miguel, Azores
 

 
Lived  in:  Mass  ( this isn't where my Jacintho lived, but this is the  
info that came up with possibilities )
 

 
AVA
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[AZORES-Genealogy] (no subject)

[netadosAcores]

Dear Listers,
 
After searching for years for Patsy's Grand Father's birth/baptism record  
we hired João Ventura.  Those of you who attended the conference in SLC,  UT 
or San Jose, CA would have met him.
 
 João  researched all 10 of the siblings.  As it turns out,  the first 3 
were referenced as Vieira only.  It wasn't until #4, my Grand  Father, that 
the name Anselmo was added, making the last name Vieira  Anselmo.
 
João explained to us that many times when there are multiple names of  
people in a village that one of the families will add a given name from one 
of 
 their ancestors that will distinguish their family from the other.  In our 
 case they added the given name of Anselmo, which João said was a very  
strong name.
 
João Ventura is wonderful, without this info we would still be  looking.
 
AVA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial

[netadosAcores]

Adele,
 
Did you leave a post back in 2008 on the Faial web page?
 
AVA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry - FREE ACCESS to select records - July 3-8, 2...

[netadosAcores]

and to add:
 
You have to give a  credit card number to get the FREE 14 day, or what  
ever days are free.  So Dick Eastman advises, unless you CANCEL your FREE  
subscription and really do not want to pay.  Purchase a prepaid credit  card, 
sign up for the FREE days on Ancestry, and then use your prepaid credit  card 
on groceries, or whatever, so that if you forget to Cancel before the last  
Free day, there is NO Value left on the prepaid card and you won't be  
charged for a new subscription.
 
I did just thathad a Verizon Rebate credit card, and used it for a  new 
Fold 3 account, which was on sale at 50% off for one year.  Now I  don't 
have to remember in one year to cancel my subscription before the renewal  
date.
 
AVA
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/3/2012 8:49:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Mex,  
mori...@cts.com writes:

 
FYI...Ancestry.com is having a free  access period related to the 13 
original colonies, plus other patriot records.  Thought those that are not 
members 
might be  interested.



_http://www.ancestry.com/t25967/rd.ashx_ 
(http://www.ancestry.com/t25967/rd.ashx) 
 
Happy hunting  I hope everyone has a wonderful 4th  of July!
 
Michelle
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of the Azores

[netadosAcores]

Thanks Celeste,
 
I will try and find those two books, and I too, would like to learn more  
about the life of our ancestors on the islands.
 
AVA
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/3/2012 1:21:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Mex,  
ccgran...@yahoo.com writes:

 
I have just finished  reading Dark Stones by Dias de Melo.  I am 
currently reading Home is  an Island by Alfred Lewis and both of these books 
have 
given me more  understanding of what life was like for those that lived in 
the Azore Islands  at the time my grandparents (and before their time) came to 
the  USA.
   Because I  lived in their home and listened to the stores told about 
their life before  they immigrated, I thought I had a pretty clear picture of 
what that life was  like.  In 1989, I visited the continent where my 
grandfather was  born and the village where was born where they received 
electricity 
in  1980.  I saw things I had no idea existed; and, things were more 
modern  than when my grandfather lived there.  
   Although  Terceira is more updated (I think the airbase has made for 
that change), from  my first trip to Porto Judeu where my grandmother was born 
in 1999 and  subsequent visits until 2009, I still saw bread being baked in 
what looked  like a fireplace behind a house and stayed in hotels that had 
no heat in the  rooms.  In the winter of 2003, I thought I would freeze.  The 
 temperature was about what we have here in Hayward; however, with no heat 
in  the room, tile floors, and cement walls, I truly got a feel for what my  
ancestors felt in their little villages with few things we take for  
granted.
   These 2 books  have given me a sense of what the poor had to put up 
with.  I got the  feeling that if one person had 2 trees in a certain orchard, 
they felt  superior to someone who had no trees.  If a child learned to read, 
he was  looked upon as someone who was showing off; and, there have 
always been  bullies who taunted those who tried to better themselves.  
Celeste, Hayward,  CA

 Celeste Perry  ccgran...@yahoo.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder DNA results are starting to trickle in

[netadosAcores]

Cheryl,
 
My cousin mailed her kit out the last part of May.  She just received  
notice about 4 days ago that her kit has been received.
 
AVA
Vieira  Anselmo, Sao Miguel
Pinheiro, Nunes, Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA

[netadosAcores]

Question about our answer below..My Mother had her mtDNA tested.   So 
would it be beneficial to do the Family Finder on her?  Would that be an  
upgrade to the DNA already on file or would she need to complete a new  test?
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/2/2012 4:56:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Mex,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Here are some more good questions I'm getting about Family Finder, a DNA  
test from Family Tree DNA. 
Q: I tested my Y-DNA and my mtDNA. How does Family Finder compare?
A: It  doesn't. They are 3 different tests that can be run on your DNA. 
Just like if  you are hungry, you can have a choice of apples, bananas, or 
oranges. Y-DNA is  your father's father's father's line only. mtDNA is your 
mother's mother's  mother's line only. Family Finder covers all your lines. 
It's 
not a straight  shot like Y or mtDNA. It's a tangled web of all your lines. 
Some people have  enough DNA in them that it detects ancestors born 175 
years before. My dad has  matches with people whose common ancestor was born in 
the mid 1700s. My dad  was born in 1934.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA

[netadosacores]

Cheri,

Thank youI have a coupon from when my Mother did her original test last 
summer.

Should I pay the upgrade for her later, or, should I use the coupon on me, and 
test the portuguese side?

I guess what I should ask is what is the cost of the upgrade for my Mother vs 
the cost of dong me?

Ally



-Original Message-
From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:52 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA


Ally, yes Family Finder would be good. Your Mom's samples are stored for 25 
years. They will pull the vials and run Family Finder on them. So no need for 
new cheek swabs. Let me know if you decide to go ahead with this so I can get 
you a coupon. Cheri
On Jun 5, 2012 3:45 AM, netadosaco...@aol.com wrote:


Question about our answer below..My Mother had her mtDNA tested.  So would 
it be beneficial to do the Family Finder on her?  Would that be an upgrade to 
the DNA already on file or would she need to complete a new test?
 
 
 

In a message dated 6/2/2012 4:56:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Mex, 
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Here are some more good questions I'm getting about Family Finder, a DNA test 
from Family Tree DNA.
Q: I tested my Y-DNA and my mtDNA. How does Family Finder compare?
A: It doesn't. They are 3 different tests that can be run on your DNA. Just 
like if you are hungry, you can have a choice of apples, bananas, or oranges. 
Y-DNA is your father's father's father's line only. mtDNA is your mother's 
mother's mother's line only. Family Finder covers all your lines. It's not a 
straight shot like Y or mtDNA. It's a tangled web of all your lines. Some 
people have enough DNA in them that it detects ancestors born 175 years before. 
My dad has matches with people whose common ancestor was born in the mid 1700s. 
My dad was born in 1934.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA

[netadosAcores]

OH NO!!!  LOL  She is all southern charm.her family of  generations  
are tracing back to England, and earlier to Scotland and  Ireland.
 
Thanks for the advice..
 
 
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gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Ally,

I thought your mother was Portuguese.

Test the  older generation.  You have 25% of your grandparents DNA. Your 
mom has  50% of that DNA (at least on your maternal grands side).  

The  cost of upgrading your mom vs. testing you is the same.

Cheri  Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frank Edward Ray (Reis), Hero of the 1976 Chowchilla S...

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My husband, was on the Alameda County Sheriffs Dept. investigation  team.  
Small world.
 
AVA
Anselmo  Sao Miguel,
Pinheiro/Nunes  Fiail
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2012 2:05:54 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time (Me,  
gfsjo...@gmail.com writes:

The  obituary of Frank Edward Ray 1921-2012 appeared in today's LA Times. 
In July  of 1976, the school bus he was driving was hijacked. On board were 
Ray and 28  children ages 5-14. They were held in a moving van truck body 
buried in an old  quarry near Livermore Ca. Ray and two of the older boys were 
able to dig their  way out within a few hours and go for help.The kidnappers 
were 3- 20 something  sons of prominant SF Bay Pennsula area families. They 
were sentenced to  life terms and have been denied  parole despite several 
appeals. In 1993,  Ray was portrayed by Karl Malden in a TV movie They've 
Taken Our Children:  The Chowchilla Kidnaping.

Ray,  whose birth name was Reis was  born in Merced County. His father 
(as I recall)  was a half-brother of my  Uncle Jose Reis  from Lomba Flores 
and married to my father's sister  Angelina.
John Vasconcelos


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City Trip

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E amd Will,

Family first always.  My prayers our with you all.  Enjoy your visit with your 
sister and her family.

AVA


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From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com
To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 8:23 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City Trip


Hi All,
 
Unfortunately, we will not be joining the rest of the group going to SLC.  We 
waited until the last minute to make this decision hoping things would change 
for the better.  My sis (almost 90) is not doing well and my nieces think it 
best if we plan a trip South to see her as she always seems to rally when we 
visit with her and we are hoping it is so this time. Luckily, as usual, we 
booked with Southwest and they will give us a credit on our SLC airfare for 
future use and hotel told me earlier I can cancel with no problem.  
 
Have lots and lots of fun digging and prodding for your ancestors and I am sure 
you will enjoy Salt Lake City and the people who are so friendly there, not to 
mention the wonderful people from this group.
 
Have a Blessed Easter.
 
E and Will

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] new website

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Enjoyed your site.
 
Ava  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

 
 
In a message dated 4/2/2012 9:45:56 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bretanha1...@gmail.com writes:

_www.georgepacheco.com  

_ (http://www.georgepacheco.com) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1940 Census

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Was on at 10 MT and had no trouble.
 
Been on most of tonight, and not a single bump in the activity.
 
AVA
 
 
In a message dated 4/1/2012 5:32:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
rcap...@redshift.com writes:

Just a  reminder that the 1940 Census is out tomorrow at 9am EDT! You may
go to  1940Census.archives.gov and then eventually (don't know the exact
date for  these) but www.archive.com/1940census, FamilySearch.org and
Ancestry.com. I  hope all of the genealogists don't crash the  government
site!!

Rosemarie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1

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Ditto
 
AVA
 
 
In a message dated 3/21/2012 6:02:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
geliza...@hawaii.rr.com writes:

 
Thank  you so much will be calling tomorrow. 
Gail 
 
 
From:  azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of  John Raposo
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:37  PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro  1

 
 
Father  Joe's address is:
 

 
Rev.  Joseph Viveiros, Pastor
 
St.  Dominic Parish Church
 
1277  Grand Army of the Republic Highway
 
PO Box  205
 
Swansea, MA 02777
 
508-675-7206
 

 
I  suggest calling the rectory between 9AM to 3PM (Eastern Daylight Saving  
Times), M-F
 

 
Having  all this data in a ged com is a real treasure and will save endless 
of hours  of eye strain, magnifying glass in hand, as well as trying to 
decipher the  abreviations in the original (if one could get one's hands on a 
photocopy of  the original manuscript!)
 

 
Good  luck!
 

 
John  Miranda Raposo
 

 
 
 
From:  Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) 
To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com)   
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1
 
Since  John wrote that in 2004, Fr. Joe Viveiros has completed the entire 
600  pages.  If you did not order them from the mid-2000s, then to get the  
whole deal now is $50 or $60, I think.  It's in Gedcom format.  I  know 
George Pacheco was burning the CDs for Fr. Joe, but I don't know if you  mail 
the 
money to George for Fr. Joe or to Fr. Joe and he'll George to make  the CD. 
 Either George or John will let the list know.
Cheri  Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Success Lesson Learned

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Cheri,
 
Thank you for this heads up..Patsy and I have a MALE  cousin, one of 
two left that are a direct line with the Vieira-Anselmo  line.  He has agreed 
to do the DNA during the next sale.   Our  family started out with 9 
brothers from Sao Miguel, and now we are down to only  2 remaining male 
grandsons. 
 Of course, there are plenty of  females!
 
Needless to say, we were anxiously waiting for the next sale.
 
This is great news for us.
 
 

Ava  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge
 
 
 

 
 
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gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

P.S. I  asked FTDNA for a door prize for the conference.  The conference is 
 around DNA Day.  Last year, they had a 48 hour sale in honor of DNA  
Day. I don't know if they plan on doing a sale for DNA Day this  year.

Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Success Lesson Learned

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Rick

I too, have had much luck with the 3-5 cousin match.  One such lead, I found 
the Carpenter line was the Faulkner/Fortner daughter. This daughter was the 
sister of my  3XG GrandFather.  I had a question mark as to who my 4XG 
GrandFather would be.  The lead had other info to confirm this.  Needless to 
say, I was thrilled.and the tree continues to grows

Ava



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From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
To: Azores Azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 9:18 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Success Lesson Learned



Hi All,
 
I received this from another Family Tree DNA admin and thought I would share it.
 
While the matches in this message do not relate to Azorean Genealogy the 
message is interesting and for those who have taken the Family Finder DNA test 
may find it of interest. What I find interesting is the Y-DNA and MtDNA test 
had not provided obvious matches where the Family Finder test opened the 
connections.
 
Rick
 
 








My husband Sam did YDNA and mtDNA tests at FTDNA 6 years ago. Currently he has 
1,469 HVR1  HVR2 matches for his mtDNA (H3) and none for his YDNA. It’s been 
discouraging. So we decided to take advantage of the recent Family Finder sale 
at FTDNA. 

He had many 3-5 generation matches. Some of the names were interesting, but I 
thought, oh --- too far out on the branch to be helpful. And I was busy with 
other things, so didn’t get in touch with any of these people. BUT, one of them 
got in touch with me! Sue asked if Sam’s great grandmother had ever been in 
Lithuania? YES, she had! An intense exchange of emails ensued. I was familiar 
with Sue from FindAGrave and she was VERY familiar with Sam’s family. She gave 
me the vitals for many people. Because of this I was able to find others, and 
we were able to confirm that Sue and Sam are 4th cousins. Sam has another 
cousin Jane in this line who we’ve known for years, but no one knew exactly 
what the relationship was – or had not pursued any research. This prompted Sam 
to email Jane, and armed with our updated tree, they figured out that Jane and 
Sam are 3rd cousins! BTW - Sue had been in touch with Jane years earlier! Who 
Knew!

Lessons Learned (and these are all very obvious, but frequently forgotten): 1. 
Sometimes information provided by family members is incorrect or incomplete. My 
mother-in-law had told me that her grandmother was from Odessa. She couldn’t 
say how she knew this and there was no proof. 2. It is helpful to include as 
much detail as possible when filling in the little boxes at FTDNA. In addition 
to Odessa, I should have indicated that great grandmother ALSO lived in 
Lithuania. 3. Don’t get discouraged or overwhelmed, and DO pay attention to 
relevant Names + Locations of 3-5 matches. 


















 
 
 
 
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,  Sao 
Miguel, Acores
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Success Lesson Learned

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Pam,
 
My success has all been on my Mother's mtDNA.
 
Ava
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2012 9:13:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
pamsanto...@gmail.com writes:

I keep  hearing about this Family Tree Finder is it something new?  I had 
paid  for someone to do a Y dna test first 12, then upgrade to 37, only 
problem the  people who match when you contact them don't respond.  I am also 
thinking  of doing a Maternal one, my question is would it be worth it? Have 
others done  their maternal side or normally just the males?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Richard Francis  Pimentel 
_Rfrancispimentel@comcast.net_ (mailto:rfrancispimen...@comcast.net)   wrote:


 
Hi  All, 
I received this  from another Family Tree DNA admin and thought I would 
share  it. 
While the  matches in this message do not relate to Azorean Genealogy the 
message is  interesting and for those who have taken the Family Finder DNA 
test may find  it of interest. What I find interesting is the Y-DNA and MtDNA 
test had not  provided obvious matches where the Family Finder test opened 
the  connections. 
Rick 
My  husband Sam did YDNA and mtDNA tests at FTDNA 6  years ago. Currently 
he has 1,469 HVR1  HVR2  matches for his mtDNA (H3) and none for his YDNA.  
It’s been discouraging. So we decided to take  advantage of the recent 
Family Finder sale at FTDNA.  

He had many 3-5 generation matches. Some of  the names were interesting, 
but I thought, oh ---  too far out on the branch to be helpful. And I was  
busy with other things, so didn’t get in touch with  any of these people. BUT, 
one of them got in touch  with me! Sue asked if Sam’s great grandmother 
had  ever been in Lithuania? YES, she had! An intense  exchange of emails 
ensued. I was familiar with Sue  from FindAGrave and she was VERY familiar with 
Sam’s  family. She gave me the vitals for many people.  Because of this I 
was able to find others, and we  were able to confirm that Sue and Sam are 4th 
 cousins. Sam has another cousin Jane in this line  who we’ve known for 
years, but no one knew exactly  what the relationship was – or had not 
pursued any  research. This prompted Sam to email Jane, and armed  with our 
updated tree, they figured out that Jane  and Sam are 3rd cousins! BTW - Sue 
had 
been in touch  with Jane years earlier! Who Knew!

Lessons  Learned (and these are all very obvious, but  frequently 
forgotten): 1. Sometimes information  provided by family members is incorrect 
or  
incomplete. My mother-in-law had told me that her  grandmother was from Odessa. 
She couldn’t say how  she knew this and there was no proof. 2. It is  
helpful to include as much detail as possible when  filling in the little boxes 
at FTDNA. In addition to  Odessa, I should have indicated that great  
grandmother ALSO lived in Lithuania. 3. Don’t get  discouraged or overwhelmed, 
and 
DO pay attention to  relevant Names + Locations of 3-5 matches.  
  
   
  
Rick 
Richard Francis  Pimentel 
Spring,  TX 
Formerly of  Epping, New Hampshire  
Researching,  Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,  
Sao  Miguel, Acores 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage help - Not Azorean

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E
 
Glad you found your information and know more family.
 
I had been researching the Vieira-Anselmo line off and on since  197Xish.  
I am grateful to have met my Great Aunt before she passed.   Patsy posted a 
note on Ancestry in 2001.  I didn't read it until  2007.  Of the 10 children 
that first settled in Pleasanton, CA, two died  without children, and we 
have made contact 7 families of which 6 responded and  we remain in contact 
with them.
 
Thank goodness we don't have to travel, and live in the computer age to do  
our research.  Can't imagine if any of the results would have been so  
successful.  And now with more participating with DNA testing, the results  are 
having much more success, or at least for some.
 
 
Ava  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge
 
 
 

 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2012 12:03:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Thank  you all for your replies. Someone did send me the marriage record. 
Not the  date I was looking for but maybe she was his 2nd wifeI have been 
searching  Ancestry trees, etc. and have finally tied into other family 
members. Many of  the records I have tried to obtain were burned with the 
courthouse. Some  courthouses in the South burned 3 times or more! My 
husband's 
cousin (same  surname) did do a DNA study for us and he matches someone who 
we contacted and  he replied but he did not furnish any genealogy and has 
since been silent but  I was finally able to find his family and I now know 
my husband's mother  shares the same gggrandparents (not sure of their 
names). She is from the  brother James and he is from the brother John. My 
husband's cousin matched  this same person on 12, 25 and 37 markers so we know 
they 
are from the same  family. Will still keep searching but I am content in 
knowing we finally know  we have found our family - only took over 7 
years!!! 

E  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage help - Not Azorean

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E
 
When I'm researching a brick wall I:
 
1.  On Ancestry review Public Members Trees and if something looks  good, 
I write the Tree Owner.  Out of 10 messages sent, I received 8.   Of the 8, 
4 were solid.  And 3 shared with me more info than I ever  thought I would 
learn from one person.
 
2.  Since I'm not traveling to any southern states, I can write to the  
church in the area that my family lived.  If the church is no longer  standing, 
many of the church records were sent to the county for safe  keeping.   I 
was lucky to know the faith of my Mother's family, so  writing to the church 
wasn't so hard, once I was able to get the address.
 
 
Ava  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

 
In a message dated 2/29/2012 12:30:39 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Hi All,  

This is off topic but I am hoping someone on this list can give me  some 
guidance. I found the following on Ancestry: 

U.S. and  International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 
Name: Eliza Jarratt 
Spouse  Name: James Mcneal 
Number Pages: 1 
Source Citation: Source number:  273.000; Source type: Electronic Database; 
Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code:  JWJ. 
Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage  
Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations  
Inc, 2004. 
Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted  from a 
variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic  databases. 
Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials  including 
pedigree charts, family history articles, querie. Description: This  database 
contains marriage record information for approximately 1,400,000  
individuals from across all 50 United States and 32 different countries around  
the 
world between 1560 and 1900. These records, which include information on  over 
500 years of marriages, were extracted from family group sheets,  
electronic databases, biographies, wills, and other sources. 

My  husband's gggrandfather was James McNeil/McNeal b. abt. 1799 SC or GA. 
We know  his wife's name is Eliza from census records. We are trying to find 
out if  this Eliza Jarratt could be her but Ancestry only give the above 
info. How do  I find out where to find out more on this marriage? 

Thank you. 
E   
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hayward (CA) City Directories

[netadosAcores]

Celeste,
 
What kind of info can one get from a Mortuary?
 
Just who lived in the area from an old  Directories?
 
My husband's God Mother lives above a Mortuary in the Bay Area.   Her 
daughter married into the family business.  When we come to town we  visit with 
her there.  She is loaded with info on Sam's side of the  family.  
 
It's kind of weird though, we go into the Mortuary, all happy and  excited 
to visit with Auntie, wondering what story she will share with us  today, 
all the while trying to contain our happiness with respect to others  who are 
there grieving.
 
On my next visit I'll have to check out the old directories,  if they have 
any.
 
Ava   
 
 
I'll have to ask and find out if they kept their old Directories.  
 
In a message dated 2/27/2012 5:37:38 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
ccgran...@yahoo.com writes:

Hi Carol,
   I know that the Hayward Historical Society has many  Hayward City 
Directories.  They are in the process of moving so I  don't know if contacting 
them would have someone on staff to look at the  directories for you.  I can't 
remember what years they have.
   I also know that when I was researching for a friend,  I went to the 
then Sorenson Brothers Mortuary and they had even more  Hayward City 
Directories than the Historical Society.  Sorenson  advertised in the 
Directories so 
they probably received a free copy each  year.  
   Sorenson's was taken over by the Diocese of Oakland  and is now called 
something else; Sorenson Holy Angels or Holy  Angels Sorenson, can't remember 
which it is.  In the 2011 Hayward  phone  book, it is still llisted as 
Sorenson Bros. Mortuary.   
Celeste, Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry  ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From:  Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Hayward (CA) City Directories
To: azores  azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012,  1:23 PM

I am currently trying to find any library or FHC  that might have Polk City 
Directories for Hayward (Alameda County) CA  for the time period of 
1925-1927.  The Family History Library in  
Salt Lake City has Polk Directories for 1930-32  1934 (which  does not 
help), the Boston Public Library supposedly has it on  microfiche as does the 
Indianapolis Public Library. 
I have tried  the Hayward Public Library and the Hayward FHC (both online). 
 I  have also tried the Southern CA Genealogical Society's Library online  
catalog, the San Diego Genealogical Society's Library online catalog,  the 
Los Angelles Public Library's online catalog and last but not  least I tried 
the Sutro Library in South San Francisco.  Does  anyone have any suggestions 
as to where else I can search.   

All I know is that the family moved from Gloucester MA to  Hayward in 
either 1925 or 1926, lived there until summer of 1927 and  that they lived on 
Orchard Street near the elementary school.  Unfortunately, my mother and all 
of her siblings are deceased.   Does anyone have any suggestions of places 
that might these records  within California or does anyone have access to the 
Boston Public  Library?  

Thank you to all for all your help.  

Carol Silva Warnock 
Researching:  Madruga (Lajes do  Pico) (This is my mother's paternal line) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Site Change

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No E,  you are just more polite than I, to call it ..  confusing  
 
Ava 
 
 
In a message dated 2/17/2012 9:44:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

I received another match for a family member today on FTDNAimagine my  
surprise.they have changed the site.I am completely lost.  I did  
manage to find this match but what is going on with all this stuff.  It  
used to be so easy, and being a person who does not like change very  
much...probably a product of my age...I find this a little difficult to  
follow.  
 
Am I the only one confused by all of this?
 
E
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[AZORES-Genealogy] SW Airlines

[netadosAcores]

FYI
 
Those planning on attending the SLC Seminar, check out the prices on line  
today through Feb. 20, while seats are available for $110. each way, from  
Oakland, CA  to Salt Lake City, UT.
 
That is a great price for travel.
 
Price is good for travel until June 9, so that fits the seminar  schedule.
 
There are non stops available.  Yeah!!!
 
 
Ava

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place

[netadosAcores]

Also, try looking up records of the Tri Valley Cattlemen's and Cattle  
Women's organizations. I think there was a Falk or two that belonged to  them.
 
 
AVA
Vieira  Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia do  Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

 
In a message dated 2/11/2012 8:06:18 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
greg4...@gmail.com writes:

Hello,
His wife that was my grandmother was named Elsie Falk,  she was full 
Portuguese but was born in California. His next wife was Pauline.  You may see 
the 
census records it shiws several children. Alvin was my  father..
He had several relatives near Oakland, San Leandro,Livermore. Some  of 
thier last names were Serpa and Moura. .

This was 50 years ago!  
Thanks for the support ..
Sea you on Faial  !

bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

Greg,

What was  Manuel's wife's name? Pauline? Mary? How about his children? By  
 
the way, he could have come to the US via MA and by train to  CA.

E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1935-1945 Beta Test Directories on Ancestry

[netadosAcores]

Thanks E
 
I'm just impatient, I want it now!!!
 

 
 
 
 
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bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Ava,  

I think they are still adding to these directories so keep checking  back. 
And I think they will probably add more States. 

E  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] MagiCensus

[netadosAcores]

Has anyone used this program?
 
How is the tracking better than doing it by hand?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1935-1945 Beta Test Directories on Ancestry

[netadosAcores]

Patsy,
 
I saw those, but I was refering about my Grandfather's family  who were 
still living in Pleasanton.  I found my Mother's family, her  Mother and 
Grandmother who were all in Oakland.
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2012 3:50:15 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
cnsp...@aol.com writes:

Ally,
 
I don't see Pleasanton yet but found some of our Anselmo's in Oakland and  
William(WV) in Hayward.
 
Hopefully Pleasanton will make it yet.
 
Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome




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Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 9:22  am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1935-1945 Beta Test Directories on  Ancestry


Thanks E
 
I tried this link and had a little luck with my southern roots, but Zero  
with the Anselmo's  from Pleasanton, CA
 
Ava 
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca,  Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel,  Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao Jorge

 
 
 
In a message dated 2/5/2012 3:58:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
_bellemarco@gmail.com_ (mailto:bellema...@gmail.com)  writes:

_http://search.ancestry.com/search/grouplist.aspx?group=1940census_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/search/grouplist.aspx?group=1940census)   

E



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guest Speaker at Azores Genealogy Conference in Salt L...

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Check in hand...can't wait 
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2012 9:10:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

(Cross  posted to Azores on Google Groups and IslandRoutes on Google Groups)

It  is with great pleasure to announce that one of our guest speakers in 
Salt Lake  will be Joao Ventura, all the way from Terceira!  He will be 
presenting a  few of our lectures as well as being available after dinner for 
guided or  one-on-one research.

The conference schedule will be published this  weekend.  The registration 
fee will be $75 for early bird (mailed in  Jan/Feb), $85 for March, and $100 
at the door.  Watch your inbox for more  info this weekend!

Cheri Mello  Rosemarie  Capodicci

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia

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Gail,
 
There was a family at our school and all 3 girls were Maria, so they went  
by Maria Jose, Maria G. and Maria ?.  There last name was Gomez.
 
Many times when a family lost a child, they would repeat the name.   One of 
my uncles had 2 Manuel's.
 
In my Grandmother's fmily it looks like the first Maria had died and they  
renamed their next girl Maria.
 
It was the custom of Portuguese families to name their first born son  
Emanuel or Manuel  to honor our Lord, and the first girl Maria in honor  of 
our Holy Mother.
 
Ava
 
 
In a message dated 12/28/2011 11:04:28 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
geliza...@hawaii.rr.com writes:

 
Ava, 
This  is so cool, finding about your family.  Remember the saying you don’t 
 know who you are related too?  It’s going to take some time for me to  
find out where my grandparents came from.  On the de Souza family his  first 
name doesn’t even show up on the ships list.  I don’t know if he  went by 
another name.  I don’t know if he was married in Portugal or in  Hawaii. His 
immigration was in 1883 and his marriage.  It shows 2 girls  by the name of 
Maria, one born in 1882 and one in 1883.  I don’t know if  they are the same 
in one person or different.  It showed my grandmother  had 8 children and 6 
was living but what I had is 7 if I include the 2 Marias.  If they had two 
Maria’s one could have died. I think there youngest child  either died or 
moved with someone else.  He was 4 years old in the 1900  census and doesn’t 
appear  in the 1910 census.  A lot of groundwork  on this one.  I just wish I 
could spend more time with it.  Pretty  soon I’m going to be really busy and 
won’t be able to do anything. I’m trying  to find out as much as I can 
using whatever resources I have and probably make  the trip to Honolulu to find 
the rest. 
Gail 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village  or freguesia

 
Gail
 

 
Patsy  found our family's record of deportation from the FHS tape.  There 
was a  Passport of Appeals.  On that record it said what city in Sao Miguel 
they  lived.
 

 
Also,  she went through the Birth / Christening tape of the prox year that 
our  grandfather's were to have been born and found my Grandfather's record. 
  That was great as it confirmed who are great grandparents were and where 
they  lived.  
 

 
AVA  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues  in Sao Jorge

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia

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Gail
 
Patsy found our family's record of deportation from the FHS tape.   There 
was a Passport of Appeals.  On that record it said what city in Sao  Miguel 
they lived.
 
Also, she went through the Birth / Christening tape of the prox year that  
our grandfather's were to have been born and found my Grandfather's  record. 
 That was great as it confirmed who are great grandparents were and  where 
they lived.  

AVA  
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in  Sao Jorge

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal

[netadosAcores]

To all,
 
Not sure if the rest of you have made any journal entries about  today.
 
I found myself so involved with what happened years ago, documenting every  
event, and making today special for my family that I realized that I 
haven't  made journal entries about the great fun my family is having or what 
fun 
I had  as a child with the holidays at Grandma's and all the cousins around 
us.   Oh, I have the pictures, but have not written down the stories of 
those long ago  events.
 
So as we enjoy this special time, maybe write down a few thoughts along the 
 way for our grandchildren to read and reflect.
 
Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to everyone and especially a Healthy  New 
Year to all.
 




Ally ~   making friends along the way
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel  Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro  Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Explanation of cousins being removed

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Thanks Cheri, again  : )
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2011 9:14:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Dick  Eastman wrote cousins and being removed:  _http://goo.gl/C3MwX_ 
(http://goo.gl/C3MwX) 

Cheri  Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 11 Message s in 3...

[netadosAcores]

Do you mean familysearch.com  ?
 
 
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apr...@juno.com writes:

Hi Cheri
 
Does anyone know what happened to Family History Systems? Their e-mail  
address is no longer
 
Active. I would like to update but cannot get anyone on line.
 
Thank You
 
Al Ramos



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: People named Foster in the United States: Of Portu...

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Steve,
 
Thank you for sharing this site.  I have spent the better part of the  day 
reading through the information and picturing my Grt. Grandparents and their 
 children as they worked the land of Soa Miguel, deciding to leave and 
traveling  to Hawaii, finally settling in Pleasanton, California.
 
Thanks for the journey.
 
Ava
Vieira  Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia  do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish Cemetery in Ponta Delgada

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Helen
 
Thank you for sharing, I enjoyed these stories and articles.
 
Ally
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2011 6:47:26 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
hker...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 

A few sites for those of you interested in the Jewish community and  Jewish 
cemeteries in the Azores.
 
If not interested, just delete
 
_http://www.isjm.org/Links/azores.htm_ 
(http://www.isjm.org/Links/azores.htm) 
 
_http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Azores.html_ 
(http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Azores.html) 
 
_http://www.travel-watch.com/azores2.htm_ 
(http://www.travel-watch.com/azores2.htm) 
 
_http://www.saudades.org/delmer.html_ (http://www.saudades.org/delmer.html) 
 
helen cunha kerner
researching santa maria



 

 From: Katharine  katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com
To: Azores Genealogy  azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 30, 2011 7:34:59  PM
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish Cemetery in Ponta Delgada

Thanks  for the lead.  Is the Jewish cemetery on Faial in or near
Horta?   Is it for Jews who came after 1830 (e.g., the Bensaúde family)
-- or for  Hidden (or Crypto-) Jews whose roots trace back in Portugal
to before the  Inquisition (1496)?  Katharine.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] It is the 1st of the month - back up your genealogy fi...

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Done !!!  : )
 
 
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gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

It is  the first of the month.  Genealogy files need to be backed up 
regularly  and at the bare minimum, once a month.  Since it is the first, let's 
back  up our genealogy files.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Dias/Dyers family Grasciosa

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Liz,
 
Thanks for recommending this site on annunciation.  I put in some  
Portuguese family names and had to replay them several times to be able to hear 
 how 
they were pronounced.  Patsy, we pronounce our name incorrectly, LOL. 
 
Also, what I found interesting was that when writing Vieira or Anselmo  
alone nothing was listed under the names.  But when I wrote the  names 
together, Vieira Anselmo, Translate from: _Finnish_ (javascript:void(0)) , 
appeared  under the names.  The annunciation stayed the same.
 
 
Ava
Vieira  Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia do  Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge
 
 
 

In a message dated 9/28/2011 9:32:10 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
lizcar...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi,

The name Jaime is Portuguese.  We have  a friend of the family whose name 
is Jaime and he was born in the  Acores.  I asked my dad who was born in Pico 
and he is in  his 80's and says it's an old name.

I attached the google  translator so if you hit the little speaker button 
in the box that says  Jaime you can actually hear the way it is sounds said 
in  Portuguese.   The minho site also has people named Jaime (Pico,  Faial, 
Sao Jorge - only islands that are on).  The Lisbon page also  had a Jaime. 

_http://translate.google.com/#en|pt|jaime_ 
(http://translate.google.com/#en|pt|jaime) 

You  can also wikipedia the name James and scroll down and see all the 
variations  for the languages.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_(name_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_(name) )

Hope  this helps.

 
Liz  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] San Francisco, California Online records

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When did the Hayward Daily Review begin? or the Oakland Tribune?
 
A
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2011 3:56:15 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
cdwarn...@gmail.com writes:

Anything  like that for Hayward CA that includes the years 1925 to 1928?

Carol  Silva Warnock 

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:40 AM, sdarosa _suzanne.darosa@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:suzanne.dar...@gmail.com)   wrote:

I wanted to remind everyone who has relatives that lived  in San
Francisco area from the 1850's forward, the SF Genealogy site has  a
wealth of free, online data including The San Francisco Call  Newspaper
indexes by Jim Faulkinbury, a collection of SF City directories  1850 -
1982 - that are searchable online as well as downloadable to pdfs  or
kindle.

There is much much more available at this  address:
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: San Francisco, California Online records

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Thanks for the infoI was a teen reporter for the Hayward Daily  
Review.don't ask how many years ago that wasyou'd need a calculator to  
figure that one out  LOL  : )
 
 

Ava
Vieira  Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in 
Praia do  Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial

 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2011 8:07:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com writes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Tribune

Inter  alia:

The Tribune was founded February 21, 1874

The final  edition of the newspaper under the name The Oakland Tribune
is scheduled to  be published on November 1, 2011. The following day,
subscribers of the  paper and those of the Alameda Times-Star, Hayward
Daily Review, Fremont  Argus and West County Times are to receive
copies of a new East Bay  Tribune.

Katharine.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Google

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Listers,
 
Just finished reading Dick Eastman's letter for Plus Members.Went on 
Google to do some research, typed in my info Antone Vieira Anselmo  and 
started reading over the results.
 
Somewhere on the 3rd page was our groups postings from back in January  
where I posted a picture of a group of men outside Phoebe A, Hearst  home, 
now called Castlewood Country Club.  My original posting  along with the 
picture and about 13 responses between others in our group  were all there.
 
I'm sure if I were to go on again this posting will be there also, as I am  
sure if someone was looking up Castlewood Country Club these postings would 
be  there too.
 
The good thing is that if someone is researching Antone Vieira Anselmo  or 
another combo of the name then they would eventually read these  
e-mails.but I was surprised and naive to find our discussions open to the  
public 
on google.  I guess it goes to the saying that NOTHING on the  Internet is 
confidential or secure.
 
So take note, and only give personal info (like phone numbers and  
addresses) when off the group site in private e-mails.
 
Learning more everyday : )
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes,  Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Google

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Cheri,
 
I get it now.and it all makes since.  I just didn't realize how  the 
Internet is intertwined and so very public.
 
I will be more careful in the future, I don't think I've posted anything  
too personal in the past.  Seeing our conversations on google just caught  me 
by surprise.
 
But I am going by Ava in the future : )
 
 
Ava  :  )
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in  
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

 
 
In a message dated 8/16/2011 12:22:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

Ally,

I have 2 choices for settings on this list.   Private or public.  If this 
list was private, I wouldn't have over 860  researchers who have discovered 
us.  So it is public.  The Rootsweb  lists are public.  Many Yahoo ones are 
too (that are genealogy  related).

I realize there are new people to the Internet and list-servs  every day.  
So if someone publicly posts their address or phone, I remove  it from the 
archive.  It does not disappear from the entire Internet for  a couple of 
weeks, though.

However, since this is a public list, and  because most genealogists want 
to connect with others, I leave it  public.  It's up to the user to post what 
they want out  there.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Google

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Margaret,
 
You made my day!  And yes, thank you Cheri for taking care of us :  )
 
Ava
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2nd set of eyes needed on this marriage from Holy Rosa...

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Mary,
 
We had absolutely no luck trying to get copies of records in a Pleasanton,  
CA church.  I wrote ahead of time with our list, made a donation first, and 
 was told that they NO longer give information out on relatives.  Only  
parents can get copies of their children.I was told that the  practice was 
changed by the Pope's order to prevent baptizing of the  dead.I was 
told that they would only make copies if I had my  Bishop write to them.  I 
sent the info to a priest of the diocese.   Still no records have been sent.
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes,  Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues  in Sao Jorge

 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2011 1:11:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
m_k...@comcast.net writes:

Thanks  Karen,  
I'll check back with the Diocese office. I'm only looking for records  
before 1930.  


Mary


On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Karen Hillman wrote:


Mary, 
I had the same thing happen to me  at a Catholic church in Visalia when I 
was doing a survey of Church Records  for a class I was taking.  I was 
allowed to only see my daughters  (1977) record.  However, when I asked the 
person 
helping me about other  records, I was told that anything after 1930 was at 
the parish and  restricted but older records were archived in the Diocese 
office and were  available. You just had to request from them. You might 
check to see if that  works where you are.  I agree with Cheri, making a 
donation can never  hurt. 
Karen  Silva Hillman 
Researching  Luiz, Silveira, Sousa on 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: JOSEPH DUARTS OR DUARTE DOB 1885 AND WIFE MARY DOB...

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Cheri,
 
With the DNA test, would that tell if the Duarte family was from Acores or  
Madera Islands or just from the Portugal area itself?
 
Ally
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2011 8:18:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
cdsnu...@yahoo.com writes:

That is  the problem I have no real place to stat.  My grandmother
herself was  born in california but her father Joseph Duarte or Duarts
was born in  Portugal and I dont know where .  I do not have any one
that can tell  me those answers.  I want to sao Sao Miguel Just because
is sounds  familiar. But thats just a gues..  I am going to do the DNA
testing  would that help with this kind of search?

On Jun 8, 4:16 pm, Cheri  Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi CD,

 You've  got names and dates (although you might want to repeat that info 
in
  your postings).  All you need is a place and then you can start  finding
 information on their ancestors.

 Go out to the  Azores GenWeb and look at the Finding Your Portuguese 
Roots
 booklet.  It is full of ideas of where to look to find your island and
  freguesia  (town).http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: JOSEPH DUARTS OR DUARTE DOB 1885 AND WIFE MARY DOB...

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Thanks Cheri, 
 
For keeping me strait  : )
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2011 1:06:09 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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Ally said:
Cheri,
With the DNA test, would that tell if the Duarte family  was from Acores or 
Madera Islands or just from the Portugal area  itself?
Ally

DNA tests don't point to countries.  They can only point to regions  of the 
world.  They can say if you are European, African, Asian, or  Middle 
Eastern.  They have a few subdivisions under that, but nothing on  a country 
level. Since countries are a political thing, DNA will probably  never 
pin-point 
a country.
 
The current reference populations used can be found here (this is part of  
Family Tree DNA's Family Finder test): _http://goo.gl/27qPh_ 
(http://goo.gl/27qPh) 

Cheri  Mello
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Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Life is changing : )

[netadosAcores]

I bought a book, many, many years ago when I first thought about  
researching my family lines back through the generations.  I tucked it away  
and 
thought when I have all my information I would write it ever so nicely in  the 
book.  Now that I have pealed  away and in the middle of dejunking  the spare 
room I have once again discovered this book.
 
The Book is called  Our Family Tree .  It is one of those books you  
would write all the info in if you did not have a computer.  It's copyright  is 
1977 and I did not have a computer at that time.  It has all what you  would 
expect a genealogy book to have, Mom's line, Dad's line, family stories,  
places where they lives, etc.
 
As we traveled back to CA I pulled out the book and was looking through the 
 pages and thinking how far I have come with now having a computer and how 
I can  arrange the pages to my own format.  I will use the book to teach my 
10  year old granddaughter how to be a genealogist.  
 
What I found interesting is the research area in the back of the book  
helpful hints.  where to write to, bookstores which specialize  in 
genealogical material, which listed Eastman's Online Genealogy  Newsletter 
_www.eogn.com_ (http://www.eogn.com)   : )  
 
Way back when I thought about doing all this, the computer address sites  
were like reading greek and I was terrified of a computer. 
 
Now, I am so impressed with myself as I venture forward.  And, thanks  to 
Cheri, will be doing DNA testig with my Mother.
 
Ally
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] San Francisco Newspaper for 1945

[netadosAcores]

Cheri,
 
Did you try the San Francisco Examiner, San Francisco Chronicle, and what  
was William R. Hearst paper that he published way back then???  
 
There was the San Francisco Morning Call.  I went to ask.com and a lot  of 
sites came up.
 
Ally in route to CA
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:54:07 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

What is  the name (or names) of a San Francisco newspaper from 1945?

I searched  Newspaper Archives (their S.Fran. papers don't go to 1945) and 
I only found 1  on Ancestry (Alta California something, which didn't go to 
1945 either).

Thanks,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching:  Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Victor Silva Notable Shipbuilder Sacramento Area

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E
 
Thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed the article.
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes,  Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues  in Sao Jorge

 
 
In a message dated 7/20/2011 8:43:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Interesting article.  A few other surnames included in  article.
 
_http://www.valcomnews.com/?p=4963_ (http://www.valcomnews.com/?p=4963) 
 
E
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] More Family Finder DNA results are in

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Cheri
 
Thank you,  even though I haven't done this as yet...and not related  that 
I know of to anyone but Patsy, I found your letter so fascinating.   Thank 
you for sharing all the details.
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel
Pinheiro,  Nunes, Silveira in Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro  Miguel, Faial
Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao  Jorge

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Romeiros - Azorean History

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E
 
Thank you for sharing.  I am learning so much about our heritage from  the 
Sao Miguel area, and those that settled in Fall River.  I feel that I  have 
missed so much of the island customs having been raised on the West  Coast.  
Yes we have the Holy Ghost parade and most of the foods that all of  you 
have shared recipes for, but I am always learning of more customs.   Please 
keep sharing.
 
Happy Easter to all,
 
Ally
 
 
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Here are a couple of interesting articles about the Romeiros and how the  
tradition is carried on today:
 
_http://www.heraldnews.com/lifestyle/faith/x1146472591/Romeiros-seek-the-hel
p-of-God-in-Fall-River-procession_ 
(http://www.heraldnews.com/lifestyle/faith/x1146472591/Romeiros-seek-the-help-of-God-in-Fall-River-procession)
 
 
 
_http://www.heraldnews.com/community/x128428820/Romeiros-procession-a-living
-piece-of-Azorean-history_ 
(http://www.heraldnews.com/community/x128428820/Romeiros-procession-a-living-piece-of-Azorean-history)
 
 
E
Happy Easter Friends.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Romeiros - Azorean History

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Thanks John,
 
Between your explanation and E's two sites I now have four articles on  
the Good Friday Processions.
 
Ava
 
 
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I am attaching an up-dated  article that I wrote some years ago explaining 
the tradition and its  contemporary application.
 
John



 

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To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:35  AM
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Romeiros - Azorean History


E
 
Thank you for sharing.  I am learning so much about our heritage  from the 
Sao Miguel area, and those that settled in Fall River.  I feel  that I have 
missed so much of the island customs having been raised on the  West Coast.  
Yes we have the Holy Ghost parade and most of the foods that  all of you 
have shared recipes for, but I am always learning of more  customs.  Please 
keep sharing.
 
Happy Easter to all,
 
Ally
 
 
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bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Here are a couple of interesting articles about the Romeiros and how  the 
tradition is carried on today:
 
http://www.heraldnews.com/lifestyle/faith/x1146472591/Romeiros-seek-the-help
-of-God-in-Fall-River-procession
 
 
http://www.heraldnews.com/community/x128428820/Romeiros-procession-a-living-
piece-of-Azorean-history
 
E
Happy Easter Friends.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FYI 1940 Census

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Thank you,
 
Will be interesting to research these records.
 
 
Ally
Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes,  Silveira in 
Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial
Silveira,  Rodrigues in Sao Jorge

 
In a message dated 4/21/2011 8:59:19 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bellema...@gmail.com writes:

Check it out
 
_http://www.archives.gov/research/census/1940/index.html_ 
(http://www.archives.gov/research/census/1940/index.html) 
 
April 2, 2012.347 more days..then you will have more genealogy  
questions answered.
 
E
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