Re: [CTRL] $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

I had a friend in Viet Nam, a pilot; he did not return.  The last time I
saw him he looked haggard and worn, and had aged rapidly...he had a
strange feeling he would not return, and he did not return, nor was his
body every found...MIA.

The North Vietnamese put a $30,000 price on the head of a pilot; the
south Vietnamese, they put their heads on a stake.  They figured a pilot
had more intelligence than the foot soldiers of Viet Nam.   So much for
living in fame, or going down in flames.

Today we are dealing with a little more civilized population; and with
all our wealth and power, you need might and right to win any war and
one does not pull punches to prolong the expense of he battle - that is
unless they want a costly war in lives and money - and who profits..

Had the pilot in question used the full force of the US power, he could
have blown the entire debate out of this world.

We cannot win this battle because ; there is no war.  There is no honor
in this spectaclelook how America turned its back on the veterans of
the Viet Nam warlook at the Veterans returning from the Gulf War,
many of whom were stricken with what appears to be the effects of some
type of nerve gashow much did the government spend ignoring their
pleas for assistance.  All the congressmen now are in the closed door
session discussions deciding how much of a raise they want.will will
no doubt be added to the bottom of another bill and railroaded thorugh.

Wlhen Madam Albright came to Columbus, Ohio she was nearly hissed and
booed off the stage; the kids saw right through her.years ago, I was
walking down the street, and suddenly I was marching with a group of
dismal looking Iraniansthey seemed in a hypnotic state and were
carrying signs "Death to the Ayatollah".now this Ayatollah wore a
Black Turban, which means he descends from Muhammeddo you believe
these were really Moslems.death to the descendent of Mohammed?  Or
ws the Ayatollah really Howard Hughes in disguise.

American flags now with swatstikas printed over the stars and stripes;
and did you ever note how many of the people interviewed over there  all
speak English?

And then, look at the faces of the people who have lost what little they
have...children crying, old people barely able to walk bombed out of
their homescities burningand a 20 billion dollar plane is
brought down with a pilot who would rather be home defending our
country, than serving as a mercenary.

Does any of this make sense?  Bill Clinton should be sued off the face
of the earth when he leaves office, and no doubt he will be.and if
the remarks made about the Secret Service being "pigs " is true,  keep
in mind the men in this service are prepared to use their bodies as
shields to preserve the life of the president, no matter how rotten he
seems to be.

Goodbye Clinton, and good riddance; and if Al Gore has the guts to run,
well - its goodbye Al Gore...he will be elected "in a pigs eye", or
whatever that phrse it.

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[CTRL] AR: Online Campaigns Make Gains For White House Hopefuls

[A.C. Szul]

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Vol. 5, No. 1036  -  The American Reporter  -  March 29, 1999
http://www.american-reporter.com

OPINION: ONLINE CAMPAIGNS MAKE GAINS
FOR WHITE HOUSE HOPEFULS
by Andy C. Szul Jr.
American Reporter Correspondent
Washington, D.C.

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Supporters and critics of the two major
Democrat presidential candidates for the Year 2000 are online in
growing numbers.
With their own Web sites, newsgroups and bulletin boards, former New

Jersey Senator Bill Bradley http://billbradley.com and Vice
President
Al Gore http://www.gore2000.com/ have hit the ground running.
"The Internet will be to the 2000 campaign what television was to
the
1960 campaign," said a spokesperson for GOP presidential hopeful
John Kasich, in a recent interview. At the same time, candidates
from
both parties are recognizing the importance of online campaign
efforts.
Offering both the good, bad and neutrality on various candidates,
many
predict the Internet will play an important role in helping organize

effective grassroots support for the upcoming 2000 presidential
elections.
While candidate supporters have erected favorable Web sites, there
are
still other sites that offer various Gore gaffes
http://gargaro.com/algore.html, as well as offbeat satires found
at
http://www.washingtonpest.com/quiz_no_JS.html.
According to Paul Westmoreland of Austin, Tex., who moderates an
online George Bush 2000 discussion group, the Internet is likely to
play
an key role in the upcoming elections.
"[The Internet] could certainly make the difference in a close
election,
which means it must be used well," he said. "It will certainly be
used to
damage campaigns that do not take it seriously."
..sniip.

For entire article SEE http://www.american-reporter.com/

-snip
fyi

Regards,
-A
http://www.erols.com/mack97
"The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous

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Re: [CTRL] Map A Nuclear Blast

[Colleen Jones]

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now don't you go worrying about that; our leaders have built underground
shelters to preserve their lives, stuffed full of food and medical
supplies.that is so life can go on, and like clones they can
reproduce themselves, and we will have a country full of more idiots.

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Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist

[Colleen Jones]

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There is something in the Russian Constitution, as I recall, that
actually states "if ou don't work, you don't eat"
and that term is right out of the bible..

Who are the biggest welfare state recipients in this country; our
Congress and Senate..they have provided for their common welfare -
Congress shouse hve limited terms, taken out of the pension plans, put
on Social Security, and then mayb they would work for a living rather
than sit back and pass laws.don't we have enough laws already.

No more new laws; lets just break the ones we got.

Have you noticed now how MSBC and CNN referrs to the American citizens
as the "working class"today you see princes walking, and pigs riding
horseback.

Or holding public office.

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[CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

[Don Allen]

From ZDNN

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2233931,00.html

Melissa creator may be uncovered

Thanks to a controversial serial ID number, researchers seem to have
found 
the virus writer.

By Robert Lemos, ZDNN
March 29, 1999 5:49 PM PT 


Two software engineers have extracted information from the Melissa virus

that appears to lead to an account on America Online Inc. and a Web site

that, if matched with a person, could lead law enforcement officials to
the 
author of the prolific virus.

The key is a controversial serial number, called the Global Unique 
Identifier or GUID, which is included in files created with Microsoft

Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT) Office, as well as some other applications,
including 
Visual Basic. The serial number raised the concern of privacy advocates
just 
a few weeks ago for its ability to be used to trace certain documents
back 
to their creator. 

That's exactly what two software engineers have done. Using the unique

number, Richard M. Smith, president of software tools developer Phar Lap

Software Inc., and Fredrik Bjorck, a Swedish PhD student at Stockholm

University's Department of Computer and System Sciences, have tracked
down 
the virus writer to at least one specific Web site.

We can't be one hundred percent sure, said Smith. There
is a possibility 
that (the Web site author) was framed. There is a possibility of little

green men coming from Mars, too. 

In other words, the electronic fingerprints on the Melissa
virus inserted 
in the Word macro and those on the documents posted on the Web site are
the 
same. The electronic fingerprint, called the media access control (MAC)

address, is a unique serial number for a PC's Ethernet card.

The Web site belongs to a malicious hacker, and a writer of virus tools,

known by several handles, including VicodinES, Sky Roket, John Holmes,
and 
Johnny One Leg Johnson, among others, according to
Smith.

Posted on alt.sex

Sky Roket is the name of an America Online user, and is also the name on
the 
original e-mail that posted Melissa to the alt.sex newsgroup. But Smith

believes that Sky Roket is being used to camouflage the activities of

VicodinES. America Online (NYSE:AOL) would not comment on whether that

particular user was being investigated by the FBI. The FBI also declined
to 
comment on any potential investigation.

However, whoever controls Sky Roket has a history of posting viruses.
Under 
the same handle, at least three viruses were posted in late 1997 in
exactly 
the same manner (1, 2, and 3). All were attributed to VicodinES's
authorship. 

According to Phar Lap's Smith, the MAC address derived from the Word

document's GUID and the one derived from the documents on Web sites

registered to VicodinES and Sky Roket match. The connection was first

pointed out by Bjorck in Sweden.

ZDNN has independently confirmed that documents accompanying an Office
2000 
macro virus on VicodinES's Web site, created by the person using the
Vicodin 
handle, include the same electronic fingerprint as the Melissa virus.

Another one of VicodinES's files is stored on Skyroket's personal site on
AOL.

This could be a costly mistake for the writer. The FBI is looking to

prosecute the writer with a fine of $350,000 and five to 10 years,
according 
to statements made by Michael Vatis, director of the National
Infrastructure 
Protection Center.

Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

[Amelia Kay Edgeman]

 -Caveat Lector-

I thought the incident had just happened on their (Hillary  Chelsea)
current trip abroad!!  Yeah, I can believe that. I remember when it was
in Time/Newsweek/US News (don't remember which but it was one of those
three or all of them) that the Cintons were laughing about how they were
oing to make Military Officers serve cocktails, etc. at their parties
and generally act as waiters while in uniform.  Open contempt for the
military including air craft flying overhead at inaugural ceremonies.
Amelia

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Re: [CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Uh huh  does this seem like it's just a tad too convienient
to anyone else . First the internet community  puts out up a roar
in response to the inherent privacy invasion of all these
tracking devices popping up and suddenly the virus of all viruses
comes along , warranting FBI notifications for the first time
ever . Then we are all saved from sure destruction of our beloved
e-mail capabilities by the very chips we all so despise , thereby
proving the error of our ways as these ID's are our friends .

Just a thought .
Divine ~

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--- Don Allen  wrote:




 From ZDNN

 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2233931,00.html

 Melissa creator may be uncovered

 Thanks to a controversial serial ID number, researchers seem
to
 have found
 the virus writer.

 By Robert Lemos, ZDNN
 March 29, 1999 5:49 PM PT


 Two software engineers have extracted information from the
 Melissa virus
 that appears to lead to an account on America Online Inc. and
a
 Web site
 that, if matched with a person, could lead law enforcement
 officials to the
 author of the prolific virus.

 The key is a controversial serial number, called the Global
 Unique
 Identifier or GUID, which is included in files created with
 Microsoft
 Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT) Office, as well as some other
 applications, including
 Visual Basic. The serial number raised the concern of privacy
 advocates just
 a few weeks ago for its ability to be used to trace certain
 documents back
 to their creator.

 That's exactly what two software engineers have done. Using
the
 unique
 number, Richard M. Smith, president of software tools
developer
 Phar Lap
 Software Inc., and Fredrik Bjorck, a Swedish PhD student at
 Stockholm
 University's Department of Computer and System Sciences, have
 tracked down
 the virus writer to at least one specific Web site.

 "We can't be one hundred percent sure," said Smith. "There is
a
 possibility
 that (the Web site author) was framed. There is a possibility
 of little
 green men coming from Mars, too."

 In other words, the electronic "fingerprints" on the Melissa
 virus inserted
 in the Word macro and those on the documents posted on the Web
 site are the
 same. The electronic fingerprint, called the media access
 control (MAC)
 address, is a unique serial number for a PC's Ethernet card.

 The Web site belongs to a malicious hacker, and a writer of
 virus tools,
 known by several handles, including VicodinES, Sky Roket, John
 Holmes, and
 Johnny "One Leg" Johnson, among others, according to Smith.

 Posted on alt.sex

 Sky Roket is the name of an America Online user, and is also
 the name on the
 original e-mail that posted Melissa to the alt.sex newsgroup.
 But Smith
 believes that Sky Roket is being used to camouflage the
 activities of
 VicodinES. America Online (NYSE:AOL) would not comment on
 whether that
 particular user was being investigated by the FBI. The FBI
also
 declined to
 comment on any potential investigation.

 However, whoever controls Sky Roket has a history of posting
 viruses. Under
 the same handle, at least three viruses were posted in late
 1997 in exactly
 the same manner (1, 2, and 3). All were attributed to
 VicodinES's authorship.

 According to Phar Lap's Smith, the MAC address derived from
the
 Word
 document's GUID and the one derived from the documents on Web
 sites
 registered to VicodinES and Sky Roket match. The connection
was
 first
 pointed out by Bjorck in Sweden.

 ZDNN has independently confirmed that documents accompanying
an
 Office 2000
 macro virus on VicodinES's Web site, created by the person
 using the Vicodin
 handle, include the same electronic fingerprint as the Melissa
 virus.
 Another one of VicodinES's files is stored on Skyroket's
 personal site on AOL.

 This could be a costly mistake for the writer. The FBI is
 looking to
 prosecute the writer with a fine of $350,000 and five to 10
 years, according
 to statements made by Michael Vatis, director of the National
 Infrastructure
 Protection Center.




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[CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #3

[ric carter]

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990329c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Copycat virus follows quickly on Melissa's heels. (CNN) Network Associates
has discovered an e-mail virus similar to the Melissa virus that company of-
ficials said they believe is even more dangerous than its predecessor. Dub-
bed Papa, the new virus is an Excel virus that sends itself in the same man-
ner as Melissa, but sends itself to the first 60 people in a user's address
book compared to 50 with Melissa. In addition, Papa sends an e-mail out eve-
ry time the virus is activated. Melissa only sends the message the first
time it is opened. www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9903/29/melissa.copycat.idg/

# Insurgency on the Internet: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/
@ Command Antivirus - Melissa information
  http://www.commandcom.com/html/virus/melissa.html
@ McAfee/Network Associates - Melissa information
  http://www.avertlabs.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/melissa.asp
@ Norton AntiVirus Research Center - Melissa information
  http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/mailissa.html
@ Trend Micro - Melissa information
  http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/alerts_melissa.htm

: Have you ever been attacked by a computer virus, an alien abduction team,
CIA mind-control rays? Which is worse? Have you ever created a virus? Which?
Were Melissa and/or Papa created by the Clinton administration, Bulgarian
hackers, makers of anti-virus software, Bill Gates, Melissa Etheridge, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

*** Lepers sue Japan over segregation. TOKYO (AP) 83 former leprosy patients
are suing Japanese gov't for violating their rights by segregating them
from society. Japan didn't stop placing sufferers of Hansen's Disease, also
known as leprosy, into remote colonies until 1996. The gov't apologized that
year for its belated action to bring leprosy sufferers back into society.
See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558982172-69f

: What medical conditions require segregation from society? If your fingers
fall off, your brain smokes, your implant misfires, would you leave quietly?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mad Cow Mystery Solved - Disease Travels from Food to Brain. WASHINGTON
(AP) - Researchers said they had documented how the agent that causes mad
cow disease gets from food into the brain. It travels from the digestive
tract into the lymphatic system and from there into the brain - see
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/madcow990329.html

: Have prions attacked your brain yet? Did you contract CJD/BSE from eating
cattle, sheep, chickens, human brains? Didn't you microwave the meat first?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

*** Mars probe deploys antenna. PASADENA, CA. (AP) The Mars Global Surveyor
has successfully unfolded its high-gain antenna that had been retracted
against the spacecraft's body since it was launched in November 1996. "The
antenna is deployed and we just got telemetry - everything looks like it's
working perfectly," a JPL spokeswoman said. In the deployed position, the
dish-shaped antenna can move on gimbals to transmit data to Earth and
receive commands while the spacecraft's instruments continuously map the
planet. See www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558979867-9ee
and http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9903/29/mars.snow.ap/index.html

: What planets would you like to monitor/map? Do you have a reliable mental
map of your own planet in your head? Who put it there? Does it change? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Fusion on a Table Top. (ABC) Blasting atoms with lasers to fuse them
together has been hugely expensive. Now, for a mere $1 million, you can do
fusion on a table top. But all you get is neutrons, not limitless energy.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/tablefusion990324.html

: How small would the ideal fusion reactor be? Should/do you have one in
your body, to power your peripherals, implants, exoskeleton? Do you glow?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# DID RUSSIANS GET WHITEHOUSE.GOV?
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/18787.html
# WHEN SECRECY STOPS SCIENCE:
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/18740.html
# CLOSING THE WINDOW ON THE WAR:
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/18780.html
@ Balkans flashpoint - military hardware guide:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/nato_strikes/default.stm

@ THE FREE SITE - Web Freebies: http://www.thefreesite.com
@ GET THE FAQS - nicely indexed: http://www.faqs.org

# A Free Press for a Free People: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
@ Museum of science, art, human perception: http://www.exploratorium.edu/
# NASA SPACE SCIENCE NEWS: http://science.nasa.gov/
@ THE SOURCEBOOK PROJECT: www.knowledge.co.uk/frontiers/sourcebk.htm
@ DOGPILE - The Friendly Multi-Engine searcher: 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

[Amelia Kay Edgeman]

 -Caveat Lector-

I was diagnosed in 1996 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome then a year later
with fibromyalgia, a painful tendon/ligament kind of thing.
Fortunately, I am mch, much better.  I have the routine information on
this but new things like this I would really like to have.  I fear it
will come back one day and it was awful.  I have thought about flu
vaccines as a possilbe cause or maybe even gamma globulin.  I think I am
OK now but t was devastating and probably had a great deal to do with my
marriage falling apart at that time.  I know several people who did not
recover. Some never do.  Cher, Roblert Blake and several Hollywood types
have had it.  Cher recovered, RB didn't.

Anyway, send me anything NEW you run across.  I want to help anybody who
still has it.
Amelia

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Re: [CTRL] New Fast-Spreading Virus Takes Internet by Storm

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Has anyone on the list actually seen this virus ... or even know
anyone who has ?

Divine~

=

Only the paranoid survive

=


--- Steve Wingate  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 New Fast-Spreading Virus Takes Internet by Storm

 By MATT RICHTEL
 The New York Times

 SAN FRANCISCO -- A rapidly spreading computer virus forced
 several
 large corporations to shut down their e-mail servers on Friday
 night as
 it rode the Internet on a global rampage, several leading
 network security
 companies reported Saturday.

 The security companies said early reports of the virus, which
 is carried by e-
 mail, led them to believe that tens of thousands of home and
 business computers had been infected on Friday alone. The
virus
 reproduces itself exponentially, they said, trying to use each
 infected
 message to send 50 more infected messages.

 "This is the fastest-spreading virus we've seen," said Srivats
 Sampath,
 general manager for the McAfee Software division of Network
 Associates, a Santa Clara company that makes anti-virus
 software.

 Network security experts said that the virus appeared to do no
 harm to the
 machines it infected and that individuals could easily disable
 it. But
 they said its purpose is to interrupt networks by replicating
 itself so rapidly
 that it overwhelms networks and e-mail servers, the electronic
 post
 offices that direct message traffic.

 E-mail infected with the virus, which its creators call
 Melissa, has a topic
 line that begins, "Important Message From." Next is the
 sender's
 name, which is often the name of a friend, fellow worker or
 someone else
 known to the recipient.

 The message within the e-mail is short and innocuous: "Here is
 that
 document you asked for ... don't show anyone else ;-)"
Attached
 to it is a
 40,000-byte, or 40K, Microsoft Word document named list.doc.

 When the recipient opens list.doc, the Melissa virus
 automatically searches
 for an e-mail address book. It then sends a copy of itself --
 the
 message and attachment -- from the recipient to the first 50
 names it finds
 in the recipient's address book, which accounts for the rapid
 acceleration across the Internet.

 The virus is known to spread rapidly with two popular e-mail
 programs,
 Microsoft Outlook and a slimmed-down version of the same
 program,
 Microsoft Outlook Express, which is part of the Windows 98
 operating
 system and is often installed with Windows 95.

 Network security administrators said they had seen no evidence
 that
 Melissa was able to open and use the address books in other
 e-mail
 programs, but they did not rule out the possibility that it
 could and would do
 so.

 Several anti-virus software makers posted software on their
Web
 sites that
 their customers can download to detect the virus-encoded
 message and refuse it.

 A fix for the general public was available on
www.sendmail.com,
 the Web
 site of Sendmail, the Emeryville company whose post-office
 software
 is often used to direct mail on the Internet.

 Eric Allman, a co-founder of Sendmail, said he was concerned
 that the
 problem would worsen on Monday morning when employees find
 these
 messages in their e-mail in-boxes. "This will get into a lot
of
 mail boxes and
 lay dormant," he said. "When employees come in at 8 a.m. and
 read these messages, it will cause an explosive growth of the
 virus."

 Allman characterized the virus' virulence as "not the worst
I'd
 seen, but it's
 pretty bad." He added, however, that it appeared to be the
 fastest-replicating virus he had seen.

 Individuals can avoid contracting or spreading the virus
simply
 by not
 opening the attachment that accompanies the e-mail. Opening
the
 message alone will not cause the virus to copy the address
list
 and send
 itself out.

 Alternatively, users can disarm the virus by disabling the
type
 of program
 that contains it -- "macros," which are small applications
used
 to
 automate tasks in Microsoft Word documents. Disabling macros
in
 Microsoft Word will render the virus ineffective.

 Officials from Microsoft said they were not certain of the
 magnitude of the
 virus and emphasized that it could be easily disarmed. Adam
 Sohn, a
 company spokesman, said, "If folks are careful about what runs
 on their
 machine, they'll always be fine."

 The virus overwhelmed employees on Friday at GCI Group, a
 public
 relations firm with offices throughout the United States.

 One contract employee, who exchanges mail with a number of
 company
 employees, said she received more than 500 messages during the
 day.

 "It hosed my entire day," said the employee, Leigh Anne
Varney.
 "You can't
 print the words I used. I've never had this happen before."
 This
 hardly is the first virus to attack and spread automatically
 via e-mail, but it is
 the first to move from being a controlled, essentially
 experimental
 form 

Re: [CTRL] New Fast-Spreading Virus Takes Internet by Storm

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Divinewill wrote:

 Has anyone on the list actually seen this virus ... or even know
 anyone who has ?

It hit one of the lists I'm on (no, not alt.sex...).

A copy of the virus itself is at http://www.root.org/melissa_virus.txt

Tim

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[Divinewill]

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Thanks Tim ,

   Now I at least know it exists , thanks too for the tech
lesson though I am aware that they are different things I
inadvertantly used the word chips to describe them in bulk .
Please forgive as its 3am and my postings have acquired an air of
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Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

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  I just want to respond to the remarks made by Chelsea and Hillary Clinton
  regarding the what FBI or Secret Service areto them.
 " TRAINED PIGS "


 What is the source of this quote? Thanks.
 Rick 

I wondered about that too.  But then I thought, 'Maybe it's just John Scozik.'

Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: OPPT-Newsbreak Monday, 29 March 1999

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

OPPT NEWSBREAKMonday 29 March, 1999

Today's "Toxic News for the Net"
  Brought to you by the OPPTS Chemical Library
http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/oppt_nb.txt

  NEWS

"Credits to Emit Sulfur Dioxide Fetch Record $53 Million at
Annual EPA Sale."  Wall Street Journal, 29 March 99, B5A.
 The Chicago Board of Trade said sulfur dioxide emission
 allowances sold for a record $53 million at EPA's annual
 auction.  A total of 150,010 spot allowances, which can be
 used immediately, were sold at an average price of $207.03.
 The auction is held as part of EPA's plan to reduce
 emissions of sulfur dioxide by permitting utilities that cut
 their emissions below the number of allowances they hold to
 trade or sell the allowances.  Each allowance permits the
 utility to emit one ton of sulfur dioxide.  Utilities can
 reduce emissions of sulfur dioxide beyond allowable limits
 by installing scrubbers on their boiler smokestacks at a
 cost of $200 to $400 per ton of sulfur dioxide removed.

"Makeshift Pharmacies Are Dispensing Death."  New York Times,  29
March 99, A19.
 Special task forces have been set up in Los Angeles County
 and Orange County, Calif., to deal with the problem of
 makeshift pharmacies and clinics, many of which are located
 in neighborhoods with uninsured immigrant populations.  The
 task forces are working to find and shut down the back-room
 clinics and to educate the public about the dangers and the
 alternatives to such clinics.  Two toddlers in Orange County
 died after receiving injections at back-room clinics.  Since
 last June, authorities in Los Angeles County have raided
 nearly 160 pharmacies, seized over $2 million in illegally
 imported prescription medications, and arrested more than 50
 people.

"Warner-Lambert Drug Avoids Disaster Before FDA Panel but Sales
May Suffer."  Wall Street Journal, 29 March 99, B6.
 A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel decided that
 the benefits of Warner-Lambert Co.'s diabetes drug Rezulin
 outweighed its potential to cause deadly liver damage.  The
 panel also said that the drug should not be used as a
 stand-alone therapy and that new, plain-language warnings
 for patients need to be included with prescriptions.  The
 FDA is not required to follow the panel's recommendations.

"Researchers Focus on Stubborn Earaches That Torment Kids [Health
Journal]."  Wall Street Journal, 29 March 99, B1.
 This week's health column reports that pediatricians are
 seeing more  and  more  earaches  that  are  caused  by
 drug-resistant bacteria.  In an effort to curb the growth of
 these strains of bacteria, the Centers for Disease Control
 is recommending that doctors treat middle ear infections, or
 otitis media, with simple antibiotics in higher doses and
 avoid using "new designer antibiotics that widen resistance
 to the drugs."

EDITORIALS  COMMENTARY

"A Quality of Life Law [Op-Ed]."  Washington Times, 29 March 99,
A19.
 Jack Evans, the Ward 2 representative on the D.C. Council,
 explains why Bill 13-58, the Motor Vehicle Excessive Idling
 Fine Increase Act of 1999 is needed to improve the quality
 of life in neighborhoods like Southwest--to control noise
 and air pollution.

  ACROSS THE USA, From USA Today

"Hazelwood Apology [Nationline]."  USA Today, 29 March 99, 7A.
 The captain of the Exxon Valdez has issued an apology to
 Alaskans.  "I do apologize for what's happened," and he
 acknowledged that no effort to apologize "would be enough."
 Later this summer, his sentence begins.  It is to spend
 1,000 hours picking up garbage along Anchorage-area
 highways.

"Nuke Shipment [Nationline]."  USA Today, 29 March 99, 7A.
 The first shipment of radioactive trash to the Waste
 Isolation Pilot Plant was postponed due to thick fog.  The
 truck from Los Alamos National Lab, containing contaminated
 clothes, tools and other debris, will depart late Thursday
 for WIPP, the $1.8 billion, first underground storage site
 for nuclear waste.  Although WIPP opponents failed to stop
 the transport in court they will stage protests along the
 356 mile route.  The radioactive rubbish will be stored in
 salt beds 2,150 feet below ground.

"Sacramento, California [Across the USA]."  USA Today, 29 March
99, 7A.
 The state Department of Transportation and county agencies
 have been accused by Californians for Alternatives to Toxics
 of spraying roadside weeds with more than 132,000 gallons of
 liquid and 93,000 pounds of chemical herbicides during the
 past year.  The group says that the chemicals may cause
 cancer and birth defects.

"Evansville, Indiana [Across the USA]."  USA Today, 29 March 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hawaiian Wealth

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 3/29/99 6:19:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  "The revenue from 337,000 acres of Hawaii land -- and investments that
 include 10 percent of the Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs  Co. -- is used
 'solely' to finance one  elite campus for Hawaiian students.  But it also
pays
 more than $840,000 a year in commissions to EACH of six politically powerful
 trustees ..." 


The financing of the school for Hawaiian students was the "will" of the
princess.  It just appears that the school could do with something a little
better for their trustees who do no seem to be trustworthy.  Why is it, that
with the millions of honest, sincere people in the world who can be trusted
with other people's money, the only ones who ever get their hands on "other
people's money" is the kind of geeks described here.  It happens everywhere.
Do they make a pact with the devil?  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: L.A. Times column, 3/29/99

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

Friends,

Below is my Los Angeles Times column for today, Monday, March 29,
1999. As always, please feel free to pass this on, but please retain
the copyright notice.

Hope everyone is enjoying the lovely spring. We've got bluebonnets
here, finally, and they're beautiful. I'm told that National
Geographic features the Texas Hill Country this month, which makes us
proud but also wary, as we're hoping people will come to visit but
also go home!  :-)

Many thanks to Phil Agre of UCLA for sending out so much information
on the heart-rending situation in Kosovo and Serbia. For those who
want first-rate information about the world of the Internet,
including this latest crisis, subscribe to Phil's incomparable Red
Rock Eaters listserv. Info can be found at
http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html. Phil is my number
one hero of information dissemination, clear thinking, and
humanitarian conscience.

Best,

-- Gary

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DIGITAL NATION

For Entertainment Firms, the Choice May Be to Adapt to the Internet or Die

By Gary Chapman

Copyright 1999, The Los Angeles Times, All Rights Reserved

Leaders of the two most famous and prominent industries in Los
Angeles -- music recording and film -- don't quite know what to make
of the Internet.

On the one hand, they're watching a whole new generation of Internet
entrepreneurs strike it rich with new online ventures. The
billion-dollar stock portfolios of twenty- and thirtysomethings
running Internet-related companies are bound to get your attention.

On the other hand, the Internet threatens to shake the foundations of
both the music and film industries. It's not uncommon these days to
hear young e-commerce pioneers predict the imminent death of big
music companies and film studios.

Mark Cuban, co-founder and president of Broadcast.com, a Dallas
company that specializes in streaming video broadcasts on the
Internet, told an audience just this in his keynote speech at the
Multimedia.com convention in San Jose two weeks ago. Cuban said the
six companies that control film distribution and the five companies
that dominate music recording will either die or be totally
unrecognizable within five years.

That prospect has led to some signs of panic among movie and music
moguls, especially those in the music business. The focus of their
concern is currently on protection of intellectual property rights,
or controlling the way artists and their production, distribution and
marketing companies are compensated. But that fight may be masking
deeper alarm over whether the Internet will restructure the
entertainment industry and throw slow-moving companies into history's
dumpster.

The leading edge of a fight that may determine the character of the
$40-billion-a-year music recording industry is a bitter controversy
over a technology that most people over 40 have never heard of: MP3.
This is the term for a compression algorithm used to squeeze digital
audio by a ratio of 12 to 1. It is now widely used to compress music
so the audio file can be sent via the Internet or stored on a hard
disk. Music compressed in MP3 can be expanded and played by an MP3
player with near-CD quality sound, yet the files are small enough to
be attached to an e-mail message.

MP3 has been the rage among young people over the last year. They
search the Internet for MP3-encoded music and create archives of
songs that can be played on a PC like a jukebox. "MP3" is now the
second-most widely used search term on the Internet after "sex," and
the search engine Lycos features links to more than half a million
MP3 songs. There are new and hot MP3 music sites on the Web such as
http://www.MP3.com and Goodnoise (http://www.goodnoise.com/). New MP3
devices are popping up nearly every day, such as the Diamond
Multimedia Rio player, which looks like a Sony Walkman; new home
audio players that plug into stereos; and even MP3 players for the
car. An MP3 car player from Empeg (http://www.empeg.com) promises to
hold 35 hours of CD-quality music.

The use of MP3 has drawn the wrath of the Recording Industry Assn. of
America, a trade group that fiercely 

Re: [CTRL] White House Sends Melissa Virus? (fwd)

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 3/29/99 8:52:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 (CNNS, 03/29/99) --  According  to  Sherman Skolnick, chairman of
 the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to  Clean
 Up  the  Courts,  the  Clinton  White House is behind the current
 "Melissa  Virus."   The  computer  virus  is  wreaking  havoc  on
 Internet communications 

It might be good to remember here that Mr. Skolnick has the Clinton White
House behind every negative issue that has surfaced since about l960.  It can
be confusing.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

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In a message dated 3/29/99 9:27:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Hi,
 If they said that, they should not be given protection.  Could you
 please state your source?  This is a disgrace.  I hope it isn't true.
 Can anyone confirm? I may have to write to the Wite House again.  I
 wonder how many lists I am on so far and if the FBI keeps records of
 those who disapprove.  Paranoid, I know but I was  audited last year.
 Amelia 

I have written the White House many times, and contacted my Congressman so
often that his secretary can identify me by my voice.  I haven't yet been
audited.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)

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 walking down the street, and suddenly I was marching with a group of
 dismal looking Iraniansthey seemed in a hypnotic state and were
 carrying signs "Death to the Ayatollah".now this Ayatollah wore a
 Black Turban, which means he descends from Muhammeddo you believe
 these were really Moslems.death to the descendent of Mohammed?  Or
 ws the Ayatollah really Howard Hughes in disguise. 

Many people are descended from Muhammed.  I believe Queen Elizabeth is one of
the Quresh.   All Moslems do not favor all holy men.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

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weve discussed fibromyalgia on the abinfo list too, amelia---they may have
some good info for u
liz

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[CTRL] Washington: US prepares to mobilise troops

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Tuesday 30 March 1999
Washington: US prepares to mobilise troops
By Hugo Gurdon in Washington

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000271261842766rtmo=0XrrG0eqatmo=999
9pg=/et/99/3/30/wwar230.html)


Nato set to intensify attacks
WASHINGTON inched closer yesterday toward sending ground troops to
intervene in Kosovo, a possibility deemed "unthinkable" only a week ago and
opposed by most Americans.

President Clinton and his security staff say they do not plan to send
infantry to the Balkans, except as peacekeepers. But a Defence Department
official said: "We are great 'what if?' people here," and the Pentagon is
preparing for a change of tack. The official, however, dismissed one report
that "ground troops already have begun receiving orders to ship out to
Kosovo".

Three-fifths of Americans support the bombing campaign, but with deep
misgivings - 62 per cent say air strikes will not be enough, 59 per cent
expect bombing to lead to long-term US military commitment, 47 per cent
support using infantry and 74 per cent say Kosovo is not worth the
sacrifice of American lives.

The smell of nervousness seeped out of the White House as officials
acknowledged that events were moving quickly in Kosovo. Aides claimed, to
the astonishment of many in the capital, that they had not anticipated that
the Serbs would step up ethnic cleansing so quickly after the bombing
began, and that it had presented the allies with an instant humanitarian
disaster to which a response was needed.

Administration officials are unintentionally fuelling fears that America
has plunged so deeply into Kosovo affairs that it must go even deeper
before it can withdraw. They say carefully that there is no plan to send
infantry, but they do not say this cannot change. The White House is not
drawing a firm line at air strikes.

Mr Clinton flew back to the capital from Camp David, the presidential
retreat in Maryland, and met his national security advisers. Joe Lockhart,
presidential spokesman, said: "We feel that we can meet our military
objectives through the Nato air campaign and we have no intention of
introducing ground forces unless and until there is a peaceful political
settlement."

Congress is increasing pressure for new fronts to be opened against the
Serbs, including sending £15 million of arms to the Kosovar guerrillas.
Jesse Helms, the hawkish chairman of the Senate foreign relations
committee, has asked the President to make the removal of Slobodan
Milosevic official American policy.

With capitulation or escalation the only apparent alternatives if, as the
majority expect, bombing fails to end Serb ethnic cleansing, pressure is
building on Mr Clinton to intervene rather than withdraw. The general
public is mainly quiescent and willing, for now, to accept White House and
Nato assurances that the air campaign is proceeding methodically and
according to plan.

Anti-war demonstrations are small. The biggest have been mainly by
Serb-Americans rallying to support their ethnic brethren. Some 1,000
protesters marched in Los Angeles at the weekend, shouting about American
aggression and denouncing Nato as the "New American Terrorist Organisation".

In Chicago, which has the highest concentration of ethnic Serbs in America,
a rowdy but non-violent rally of some 1,500 people likened Mr Clinton to
Adolf Hitler. There have been other marches of between several hundred and
two thousand people in Milwaukee, Boston and New York. But there is no mass
disquiet. No one is yet chaining themselves to the White House railings.

Most of the anger is as yet directed against the Serbs rather than the
President. Some 68 per cent in surveys say Mr Clinton has made a good case
for striking at the Serbs and there is broad agreement that it was
difficult for America to ignore Milosevic's outrages against the ethnic
Albanians. Nevertheless, the President knows he is on thinner ice than he
has been in any other foreign military venture.

His personal approval ratings have slipped six points to 57 per cent since
before the bombing began, alarming news for an administration driven by
polls, and if American soldiers start being killed, current unease can be
expected to deepen and darken into full-blown opposition.

29 March 1999: Stealth crash worries US chiefs
27 March 1999: Clinton tries to win over a sceptical America


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[CTRL] Divine and the Dry Quote

[J. Hoffa]

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In a message dated Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:45:32 -0800,
Divinewill [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Though this is quite cute , I do believe the original quote was " a million monkeys 
at a million
keyboards for a million years could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare " , 
none the less I
guess it's a mute point since Shakespeare has already been produced ..  and 
is on the web
.

Divine~


Hello? Hello? Is there any intelligent life out there?

My original message consisted of the following quote:

 "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could
 produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the
 Internet, we know this is not true."

  --Robert Wilensky

First of all, the quote begins "We've heard that..."   Then it continues by
giving the entire original quote (which you repeat in your reply). Why
do you have to point out the original quote to us again as if I somehow
made a mistake and quoted it wrong? Hello? Hello? It was an
obvious, humorous play on the old, familiar, original quote.

This is the first example which proves my point. Monkeys (or the
majority of the frantic masses on A.O.L., if you prefer the simpler,
literal translation) don't write Shakespeare (a figurative reference to all
great literature and art of the past, present, and future; this doesn't just
refer to Shakespeare's plays, which may or may not be on the internet;
Hello?). Here's the proof of my point just in case you couldn't glean it
from what I've written so far: If someone cannot understand such a
simple literary convention as parody without trying to impose a very
mundane, banal, overly-simplistic  interpretation upon it, how can they
write anything akin to the  true artistry, quality, and true-to-life spirit of
the classics? In other, more figurative,  words, monkeys don't write
Shakespeare. Hello?

The second example proving my point is contained in a line of your
reply:

guess it's a mute point since Shakespeare has already been produced...

Shakespeare may have already been produced, but if  you want to
produce anything comparable, it seems you may need a good
proof-reader. I can excuse incorrect spellings; after all, we all make careless
mistakes. However, one should not try to use words with which they are
unfamiliar. Anyone out there remember Norm Crosby? The word MUTE is
most  often defined as: the inability or lack of desire to speak. The word I
think you meant to use was MOOT, most often defined as:  open for discussion
or debate, as in a moot point. The old spell checker wouldn't catch that one.
It required the gray matter grammatic/syntactic checker. An acute awareness
of word use, conventions, multiple meanings both literal and figurative, and
placement within the context of a sentence and/or paragraph in order to
construct the desired meaning plays a significant role in the production of great 
literature. Alternate meanings, puns, allusions, etc. all add depth to writing,
allowing a reader to skim as shallowly or plunge as deeply as they may desire.
Once again, we see the point of Mr. Wilensky's quote proven: if you try to dive in
to a lot of what you read on the internet, you're bound to hit your head on a rocky, 
shallow bottom sooner or later (this, however, is not typical of most of the fine
writings found at CTRL).
And now, I will be MUTE on the suject.


The No Longer Kind, Gentle
HOFFA

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Re: [CTRL] White House Sends Melissa Virus? (fwd)

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Of more immediate concern is the fact that the Geneva Convention,
ratified during the  1920s,  does  not  apparently cover military
personnel operating under the auspices of  the  *ex  post  facto*
NATO.   Since  NATO  did  not exist during the 1920s, pilots shot
down  over  Yugoslavia  may  not   be  sheltered  by  the  Geneva
Convention.  In such a case, they could be subject to torture and
execution by the Serbs.  According to some of Skolnick's sources,
one of these  NATO  pilots  has  already  been  executed  by  the
Yugoslav  armed  forces.   And  European  sources  contend,  says
Skolnick, that 8 or more NATO aircraft  have  already  been  shot
down in Yugoslavia.


As you know, the American allied news agencies can tell you everything. They
often tell you lies. They try to protect Clinton. This intervention in
Yugoslavia is a failure. More then 50 cruise missiles down, over 30 NATO
planes down, one F-117 down. Every day the numbers increase. How is paying
for it? You, american citizens by taxes. They say that F-117 pilot was
succesfully returned to base. How? He fell in the middle of Serbia, called
Woodland. No one can find him but serbs. Do you think he's still alive? I
don't. Like other NATO pilots that crashed these days. The pilot awarded by
Clinton for bravery. What a lie! Probably fake one. That's it for now.
Regards from Serbia!

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[CTRL] Rudyard Kipling

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Dane-Geld
It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say: --
"We invaded you last night -- we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away.

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane.


It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: --
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay ANY one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost,
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!"

Rudyard Kipling



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[CTRL] More viruses (amusement only)

[Taylor, John (JH)]

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On a lighter note (for a joke a day beats going to the doctor),
observations on the e-virus that has everyone in an uproar from a
dusted-off joke-list:

BOBBIT VIRUS: Removes a vital part of your hard disk then re -attaches
it. (But that part will never work again.)

YUGOSLAVIA VIRUS: Almost immediately fragments into several autonomous
parts.  Then it violently tries to reassemble itself for the next 150
years.

POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS: Never calls itself a "virus", but instead
refers to itself as an "electronic microorganism."

RIGHT TO LIFE VIRUS: Won't allow you to delete a file, regardless of how
old it is. If you attempt to erase a file, it requires you to first see a
counselor about possible alternatives.

ROSS PEROT VIRUS: Activates every component in your system, just before
the whole damn thing quits.

TED TURNER VIRUS: Colorizes your monochrome monitor.

DAN QUAYLE VIRUS: Goes into your spellchecker and updates the word "Potatoe"

GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS: Nothing works, but all your diagnostic
software says everything is fine.

FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS: Divides your hard disk into hundreds of little
units, each of which does practically nothing, but all of which claim to
be the most important part of your computer.

GALLUP VIRUS: Sixty percent of the PCs infected will lose 38 percent of
their data 14 percent of the time. (plus or minus a 3.5 percent margin of
error.)

TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file.

ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple of bytes out of your Apple.

AIRLINE VIRUS: You're in Dallas, but your data are in Singapore.

FREUDIAN VIRUS: Your computer becomes obsessed with marrying its own
motherboard.

PBS VIRUS: Your programs stop every few minutes to ask for money.

ELVIS VIRUS: Your computer gets fat, slow and lazy, then self destructs;
only to resurface at shopping malls and service stations across rural
America.

OLLIE NORTH VIRUS: Causes your printer to become a paper shredder.

IMELDA MARCOS VIRUS: Sings you a song (slightly off key) on boot up, then
subtracts money from your Quicken account and spends it all on expensive
shoes it purchases through Prodigy.

HEALTH CARE VIRUS: Tests your system for a day, finds nothing wrong, and
sends you a bill for $4,500.

NYPD VIRUS: It claims it feels threatened by the other files on your PC
and erases them in "self defense".

CHICAGO CUBS VIRUS: Your PC makes frequent mistakes and comes in last in
the reviews, but you still love it.

ORAL ROBERTS VIRUS: Claims that if you don't send it a million dollars,
it's programmer will take it back.

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

[Colleen Jones]

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Go back to Legionnaires Diseaseremember the "Swine Flu Shots' and
something wrong with serum.  My son had a new strain of meningitus, and
I did plenty of research.  This was 1974; however, as mentioned
previously anthrax and meningitus...Pathology of Disease (well that was
the book at the hospital) when you looked up meningitus, it said "See
Anthrax"...and my doctor came in thelibrary and took the book from me.

At that point in time I had information then from Federal Government
which stated (and I am going from memory here and spelling is off) that
some of the polio shots, etc., which are alleged to be MANDATORY cause
the menges of the brain to become swollen, and other stuff happens.

So as our blood supply, was some of this serum used poisoned or not fit
for use. Gerald Ford had to take the shot with picture in paper about
this time, promoting the "swine flu" innoculation which also carried
with it the Victoria innoculation; now the term swine flu is insulting
enough, is it not?

My name is Legion; for we are many - the disease enters into the swine,
who in turn PANIC and run to the sea, and die - like a bunch of
lemmings.now, tis is innocent enough, but when you have in your
possession a calendar - a bible code calendar - keyed date wise to
above, it looks very suspect.

The outbreaks of the meningitus then, were primarily at two different
air bases; when I sat in the hospital with my two year old, a man from
the USAF came into my room, and stood and looked at him - I must add,
then members of an outlaw gang of motorcyclists were also placed beside
my son, and the women would come in like a bunch of banshees and knock
the IV around, and harass me - their son had "cat fever", they said.
Security took care of this problem...but I always wanted to know more
about tis group

So you see, with some of this germ warfare comes further surveillance
even into a two year old's hospital room.

What was going on then; and what is going on now.  And remember, Aquired
Immune Deficiency began with the Blood Banks.and now, blame on the
homosexual community for its spread.

Now why do you suppose over 20 years later certain members of the
military are refusing to be innoculated against anthrax, which is a form
of meningitus.

Who murdered Angola.who is murdering the children over the world in
the name of humanitywho created the genocide - and the census is
coming up.

I have my own religion - and I do know that I can see the endoften
anything in between is a wastebetter wake up and defend your rights
now.

Has Clinton been backed into a corner; or as Yeltsin  - he sobered up
and lost his kingdom; Clinton wised up too late, and lost the respect of
a nation...what more is there we do not knowandn is e being
blackmailed?

Hiliary Clinton for Senate - you got to be kidding.  The secret service
would go on strike with that one.

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Re: [CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

[Epona]

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On this theme, does anyone know why we are redirected to other sites when we
type in urls or other search criteria?

Thanks.

Edwina

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

[Epona]

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www.immed.org  You will find many articles on the connection between CFIDS
and Gulf War illnesses at Dr. Nicolson's site.   Also, George Hylack of the
Cooley Law School has done a lot of work, and written a long paper on
mycoplasmas in the civilian population.  This should get you started.

Edwina

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Re: [CTRL] More viruses (amusement only)

[Colleen Jones]

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Well this Melissa Virusisn''t it like a chain letter that keeps
getting bigger and biggerI had somehting like that, but it did not
hurt me on the web, but I thought I would never get to the end and
realized, thre ws no end.

In essense, doesn't this just overload your files to the point where
they merge out of necessity in the only place for itwhere there is
some space left?

I had a ms once in a computer, and the computer would not let me copy,
etc.  so, I deleted half of it, went on new page - and the deletion
copied on order.

So, aren't these viruses just looking for space = or room to lodge.

Can't you check how many bytes, or whatever you call that, before you
get into that stuff.  I cannot with this, but I sure know when to fold.

colleen

I know very little about computers, only when you get to know your own
computer, you should be able to recognize any symptom of an illness or
pending doom.

So, always keep a few empty files so the stuff will go there?   HOw does
that work, and I know that stuff has to go somewhere.

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Re: [CTRL] Rudyard Kipling

[Colleen Jones]

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Remember too, the poem "Oh its Tommy this, and Tommy that".when a
young soldier goes to warbut let him come home to a nation who does
not appreciate his services, or if he needs helpwho the hell cares
about Tommy.

For instance the boys who went to Viet Nam, no GI bill waiting for them;
or Korea and now, what about this war tht is not a warwill they be
proud - and will they be honored for doing and obeyiing orders.

Kipling, by the way, was a High Degre Mason and saw a lot of truth, as
an old soldierhe also knew a lot about evil secret societies and
assassins...

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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--
 From: Amelia Kay Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]
 Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 2:09 AM

  -Caveat Lector-

 I was diagnosed in 1996 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome then a year later
 with fibromyalgia, a painful tendon/ligament kind of thing.
 Fortunately, I am mch, much better.  I have the routine information on
 this but new things like this I would really like to have.  I fear it
 will come back one day and it was awful.  I have thought about flu
 vaccines as a possilbe cause or maybe even gamma globulin.  I think I am
 OK now but t was devastating and probably had a great deal to do with my
 marriage falling apart at that time.  I know several people who did not
 recover. Some never do.  Cher, Roblert Blake and several Hollywood types
 have had it.  Cher recovered, RB didn't.

 Anyway, send me anything NEW you run across.  I want to help anybody who
 still has it.
 Amelia

Amelia,

My step mother has fibromyalgia and has chronic pain.  If you have come
across any methods that have helped you with the pain I would love to pass
them onto her.

Thanks,

Hilary

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[CTRL] Follow-up to Russia to Suck U.S.Taxpayer Again!(Important)

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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Sorry Folks, but I overlooked adding to my parenthetical comment the
following:

There is NO Budget Surplus!  To cover up war expenditures, the thug LBJ
added the Social Security receipts to the General Budget.  Since the SS
receipts are reported as being in excess of SS disbursements, the excess has
brought the "combined budget" to a disguised Surplus.  Only when the SS is
removed from the General Budget will we truly know the extent to which
"they", the thugs, are ripping us off.  This Accounts for the fact that the
National Debt continues to increase, rather than decrease as would be
expected if we had a true Surplus.  LOL
(Hope you'll understand this nonsense of the thugs playing games with OUR
"fiat-money".)

IMPORTANT:  Also, in case you didn't know, the top priority of Designate
Livingston for House Speaker and the first Bill he was going to introduce
was to be the exclusion of Social Security from the General Budget.
(Seems to me this was a very good reason for Klintoon to go after
Livingston.)

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 Interfax news agency reported that sources close to the
 negotiations say the
 IMF plans to lend $4.8bn to Russia, exactly the amount the
 country is due to
 repay to the IMF this year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/the_economy/newsid_306000/306913.s
tm

(Folks, In case you didn't know, the dollars sucked from us by the IRS goes
directly to pay the Interest on the Increasing National Debt.  Above means
more "money?" has to be printed.)

Bard

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[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: U.S. Tack: Demonize Enemy, Tightly Control Information

[Kris Millegan]

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U.S. Tack: Demonize Enemy, Tightly Control Information

By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, March 26, 1999; Page A13

Across the airwaves yesterday, Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright
continued the rhetorical assault on Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic,
telling ABC's "Good Morning America" that he "does not care about his own
people" and is responsible for a "humanitarian catastrophe."

"He does not care about the Serbian people" and is responsible for "these
very dreadful massacres," Albright said on NBC's "Today."

"He was killing ethnic Albanians, having people slit their throats, murder
innocent civilians," she said on "CBS This Morning."

Albright and Defense Secretary William S. Cohen, who blitzed the networks
Thursday, are doing more than pressing the administration's line in time of
war. They are demonizing the opposition and carefully controlling the flow
of information as part of the all-important battle for public opinion. And
they are doing so in a relative news vacuum created by the Serbian
expulsion of most Western journalists and the lack of television pictures
from the Balkans war zone.

"It's been effective in the short term," said Marlin Fitzwater, the Bush
White House spokesman during the Persian Gulf War. "The problem is they
didn't start the communications until the bombs started falling. That's not
enough time to convince the nation of a course of action. But it's helpful
because it convinces people to give the government the benefit of the doubt."

War is "easier for people to understand if there's a face to the enemy,"
Fitzwater added, invoking such leaders as "Hitler, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam
Hussein, Milosevic."

But retired Gen. Perry Smith, a military analyst for NBC News and CBS
radio, said the administration's rhetoric "is frankly overdone a bit. 'If
we don't stop them now we'll have war with Greece' -- that sounds like the
Vietnam domino theory. . . . Whenever we go to war, we tend to turn it into
a moral crusade."

Jim Miklaszewski, NBC's Pentagon correspondent, put it bluntly: "Everyone
has tried to get the message out: Milosevic is the bad guy, we're the good
guys."

As for the choice of spokesmen, Albright and Cohen "have a high degree of
credibility" because most Americans don't believe they would "do this for
political reasons," said Tom Rosenstiel, director of the Project for
Excellence in Journalism. He said President Clinton,

by contrast, is still "radioactive" because of Monica S. Lewinsky and the
impeachment trial.

During the 1991 Gulf War, the Bush administration conducted three briefings
a day with such telegenic figures as Gen. Colin L. Powell and Gen. H.
Norman Schwarzkopf. Powell issued a famous threat against the Iraqi army --
"first we're going to cut it off, and then we're going to kill it" -- that
he later admitted had been carefully rehearsed.

The campaign worked. Days before the war began, Fitzwater recalled, ABC
interviewed a group of Kansans around a kitchen table and "every answer at
that table reflected one of the reasons we had given for going in."

For a nation accustomed to live battlefield reports from Vietnam and
Kuwait, the lack of real-time footage from Yugoslavia and Kosovo has
rendered this a more abstract war. Pictures have largely been limited to
long-range shots of fires in areas hit by NATO warplanes and a mob storming
the U.S. Embassy in Macedonia. (There were tentative signs yesterday that
Western reporters might be allowed back into Belgrade.)

Yugoslav officials have made occasional attempts to press their case on
television. Foreign Minister Zivadin Jovanovic told CNN yesterday that the
NATO attacks are responsible for "a real humanitarian catastrophe in
Yugoslavia. . . . They destroy schools, hospitals, roads. . . . What kind
of military targets are hospitals?"

Several Pentagon reporters expressed frustration at the paucity of
information, noting that briefings by NATO and British officials have been
more specific. At a briefing yesterday, Defense Department spokesman
Kenneth Bacon was asked about the use of attack aircraft. "I'm not going to
get into details," he said. What was the target? "It was a target of
opportunity." Could he elaborate on NATO's progress? "I don't think I'll
get into the grading business at this stage."


Cohen, asked Thursday about the impact of the bombings, told "Today": "We
are satisfied that we are progressing as we had planned."

David Martin, CBS's Pentagon correspondent, said that "the rationale for
not telling you what's going to happen is hard to quarrel with. But they
are getting more and more uptight about telling you what has happened."

Initially, said NBC's Miklaszewski, "I don't fault them one bit for
withholding specific target lists or bomb damage assessments." But if that
stance continues for many days, he said, "there's a real credibility problem."

Bacon said in an interview that "we are taking a very conservative
approach. The 

Re: [CTRL] White House Sends Melissa Virus? (fwd)

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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 From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] White House Sends "Melissa Virus"? (fwd)
 Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 5:29 AM

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 3/29/99 8:52:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

  (CNNS, 03/29/99) --  According  to  Sherman Skolnick, chairman of
  the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to  Clean
  Up  the  Courts,  the  Clinton  White House is behind the current
  "Melissa  Virus."   The  computer  virus  is  wreaking  havoc  on
  Internet communications 

 It might be good to remember here that Mr. Skolnick has the Clinton White
 House behind every negative issue that has surfaced since about l960.  It
can
 be confusing.  Prudy

Yes, keeping track of all of Clinton's bad behavior can be confusing! :)

Hilary

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[CTRL] Fwd: WHITE HOUSE HITS SOFTWAR CRUISE MISSILE WEB

[Kris Millegan]

From the 03/29/99 web access list for www.softwar.net
http://www.softwar.net/access

198.137.241.100  GOV.EOP = EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

gatekeeper.eop.gov

 11:41:44 /bgm109.html
 11:42:01 /agm86.html

This time the White House seems to be interested in
SOFTWAR's work on cruise missiles - in particular the ALCM
and Tomahawk missile specifications.

Each of the items listed above:

bgm109 = Tomahawk Cruise Missile
agm86  = USAF Air Launched Cruise Missile ALCM



http://www.softwar.net/xf117a.html

USAF warplanners are worried that they will soon run out of Air
Launched Cruise Missiles (ALCM).  The remaining inventory of the
Boeing air launched missile is reported to be under 200 after
the firing of 40 to 50 ALCMs during NATO strikes inside Serbia.
Boeing no longer manufactures the ALCM.

The low ALCM inventory is one reason being circulated for the
the early combat deployment of the stealth bombers into heavily
defended Serbian airspace.  The downing of a F-117A Nighthawk by
Serbian air defenses clearly shows that manned aircraft are
vulnerable.

Robot missiles such as the Boeing ALCM are used in areas where
manned fighters would be exposed to dangerous air defenses.
Boeing ALCMs are currently launched by the aging B-52 bombers,
flying safely outside of enemy airspace.

The B-2, F-117A and other stealth manned aircraft are expensive
assets to risk in some heavily defended areas.  The recently
downed F-117A fighter-bomber has punctured the invulnerability of
stealth aircraft and nearly cost the Air Force a pilot.

The F-117A stealth bomber carries special 2,000 pound bombs,
designed to knock out installations buried in deep rock tunnels
such as the Serbian military command and control network.  The
F-117A was thought to be invisible to even the most advanced
Serbian air defense systems such as the SA-10 "Grumble" surface
to air missile (SAM) or the MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter.

The other stealth bomber, the USAF B-2, has been plagued by
extra-ordinary costs, a single base and by rain clouds that
frequently shroud Yugoslavia.  The limited number of the billion
dollar planes, and the bad eastern european weather has forced
planners to use no more than handful of big bombers per day.
The long 14 hour flight time from the single U.S. airbase also
forces B-2 planners to limit attacks to fixed targets on a
scheduled basis.

In contrast, NATO stealth forces in theatre provide direct fire
on very short notice.  F-117A jets from nearby NATO bases in
Italy are minutes from their targets in Yugoslavia.  The NATO
reliance on the F-117A pits these tactical aircraft against the
teeth of Serbian Army mobile air defenses such as the SA-6
"Gainful" and the SA-10 "Grumble."

President Clinton is being criticized in Congress and the
Pentagon for being "bomb" happy.  Clinton's policy of bombing
with high-tech weapons is rapidly using up U.S. inventories.
The shortages, according to DOD officials, can be laid directly
to President Clinton's Defense budget shortfalls for the hard
pressed U.S. military.

According to Defense planners, the most critical shortfall is in
air launched cruise missiles.  In late 1998, Boeing was
contracted by the USAF to convert the final remaining 130
nuclear tipped AGM-86B missiles into conventional "Bunker
Buster" ALCMs with 2,000 pound warheads.  After the last AGM-86
is converted no further missiles will be available.

The USAF has no missile that can replace the long range ALCM.
The original USAF replacement for the ALCM, the JASSM (Joint
Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile), does not have the range nor
the heavy one ton payload of the AGM-86B "Bunker Buster"
missile.  The stealthy JASSM is currently being manufactured by
Lockheed/Martin and is reported to have only a 1,000 pound
warhead and a range of 300 miles.

Late last year the Air Force chief of staff, General Michael
Ryan, told his staff to begin planning for a new missile to
replace the AGM-86.  Ryan told his staff to consider all
possibilities, including a heavy version of JASSM with a 1,000
mile range.

In March 1999, General Ryan told the Senate Armed Forces
Committee that JASSM cannot be considered a replacement for the
AGM-86.  General Ryan described the JASSM as a "complementary"
weapon with a lighter 1,000 pound warhead.

The Air Force has spent over $3.4 billion and a decade
developing the JASSM stealth cruise missile.  Not a single JASSM
has been manufactured for operational production.  The
requirement for a new, long range, version could delay the JASSM
project.  USAF and Lockheed/Martin officials are anxious to
complete the stealth missile before taking on any modifications
or a new missile design.

Ironically, the USAF answer may lie in a troubled Navy missile
project and Russia.  One reported Boeing follow on for the ALCM

under consideration is a ramjet powered, hypersonic, cruise
missile.  Such a high speed missile could strike targets at

[CTRL] I.M.F. Relents on Aid to Russia, but U.S. Talks Tougher

[Carl Amedio]

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I.M.F. Relents on Aid to Russia, but U.S. Talks Tougher

The International Monetary Fund said it agreed on "a broad
framework" to resume financial aid to Russia, but American
officials immediately warned that they would permit only
enough support to keep Moscow from defaulting on
international loans.

http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/world/russia-imf.html
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Re: [CTRL] Divine and the Dry Quote

[Colleen Jones]

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Hey you two fine gentlemen:

Did you ever read Shakespeare's "Lousey Lucy".written to the man who
had him put in the slammer?

And the language in those days would make one blush; Shakespere was a
literary genius, of course; but there are still those amongst us who say
"what did he say".

I always liked the line from Romeo and Juliet, when a druggist is bribed
for poison"My pride says no, but my poverty says yes"didn't
Shakespeare know the psychology of man.and like the 7 Stages of Man,
did he not portray why a President must be at leas 45 is it, before he
can run for president.

Shakespeare sinks in like religion; if you do not like religion, read
Shakespeare and read all about itupdate it, and you will find no
extras on the streets today

The Bard was usually on the lam from the fuzz of the day anywayhe
was no angel, he weren't dead yet

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[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: SCLP Critical of Drug Dealer Liability Act

[Kris Millegan]

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From the South Carolina Libertarian Party (SCLP)
Post Office Box 50643
http://www.awod.com/sclp


For Immediate Release: 03-29-99

SCLP Mourns the Death of Personal Responsibility

The SCLP mourns the impending death of personal responsibility. The Drug
Dealer Liability Act S.102 is following the trail blazed by recent tobacco and
firearms lawsuits. Sadly, it too is a recipe for failure rife with unintended
consequences.

No single set of laws has had a more damaging effect on United States'
criminal courts and penal systems than the War on Drugs declared by Richard
Nixon in 1972. Criminal court dockets are clogged with drug cases. Millions of
Americans bear the scarlet "D" of a drug conviction and minorities account for
a disproportionate number of the incarcerated.

The Drug Dealer Liability Act (the "Act") proposes to do the same to the civil
courts while exacerbating the conditions in the criminal system. The Act's
stated purpose is "... to provide a civil remedy for damages to persons in a
community injured by an individual's use of illegal Controlled 1 substances."
The Act also provides "... an incentive for individual users to identify
illegal drug marketers and recover from them the costs of their own drug
treatment."

It takes little imagination to foresee the abuses that will come from such a
system. Dealers unhappy with their competitors will use the law to attack
their competition. Individuals dissatisfied with their purchases will use the
law to reap monetary rewards from their suppliers. Like ambulance-chasing
lawyers and their corrupt expert physicians in today's accident cases, the Act
will no doubt create a new wave of victims seeking cash compensation for their
suffering and a civil court to hear their tragic tale of pain.

Libertarians urge a tough-love approach to drug use. We should abolish all
existing laws which serve to place the responsibility on a substance or other
people rather than the individual who chooses to use drugs.

For more information contact: Timothy Moultrie, SCLP Press Secretary
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[CTRL] Fwd: The NSC the Birth of Top 40 Radio

[Kris Millegan]

The National Security Council
 the Birth of Top 40 Radio

by Alex Constantine


In the beginning there was Morris Levy, a soldier of the Genevose
Family. Morris accepted an entry level position in gangland as a juke box
promoter in the 1940s. His brother was gunned down in the early days by
business rivals who mistook the target for Morris, and he lived to become
one of the most feared men in the music business, the owner of the famous
Birdland jazz club in New York City, and a partner, with George Goldner, a
seedy record promoter, in the Rama label (home of Tommy James  the
Shondells), and a subsidiary, Gee Records (Little Anthony  the Imperials,
the Chantels, the Flamingos, etc.).1
Gee Records was founded by Levy and Goldner specifically to draw
Alan Freed, then a rising RB concert promoter in Cleveland (he oversold
one concert there and incited the first rock n' roll riot), to New York.
Freed was hired by Gee Records in the Fall of 1954 to work his promotional
genius. From the start he and Goldner were close chums. Levy did not
entirely trust the new partner, however, and schemed to bring him under
control, eventually arranging a meeting in which Alan Freed - who was drunk
at the time  - was convinced to sell his share of the label to Levy. The
Mafioso now had a controlling interest in the company, one of the first to
enter the rock n' roll market.
John Elroy McCaw, another early kingpin in the hit parade genre,
was also instrumental in bringing Alan Freed to New York. McCaw was a
veteran of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the predecessor of the
CIA.2  After the war, McCaw bought a New York radio station, WINS at Seven
Central Park West, and geared the station's programming to broadcast hocky
and basketball games. In the early1950s, the station pioneered the very
first disk jocky format, twenty-five minutes of Tony Bennett, Perry Como,
Steve Lawrence and other popular crooners of the day, followed by five
minutes of news. It was clear to the programming directors at WINS that the
disk jockey was the radio personality of the future. When Freed arrived in
New York, he was in the historically unprecedented position of determining
not only the music youth would dance to (much of it under Mafia control),
but the medium that delivered it, as well (a station run by a veteran
intelligence officer).
And Freed, at a starting salary of $75,000, was expected to enhance
the ratings, and toward this end he had no use for Perry Como. Rick Sklar,
then an apprentice copywriter and producer, recalls that when Freed arrived
in New York, along with him "came hundreds of 45-rpm singles that he plied
helter-skelter in an old five-shelf supply cabinet in our office. That
chaotic, uncatalogued collection would become the most influential record
library in commercial radio, imitated by stations everywhere, It would
change the sound of popular music in America and the world for
generations."3
The WINS jocks couldn't know that in ten years time the invention
of rock radio would inspire a subculture of anti-war "communards" and
flag-burning  bohemians to "tune in." Dissent inevitably died with a
drugged whimper. Drugs would enter the equation of music plus youth with
the politics of heroin and LSD. Hallucinogens fragged organized resistance
to the war, but they were only one of many dubious contributions the Agency
has made to American culture. Strains of  drugged hedonism found their way
to Top Forty radio with tamborine men peddling "magic swirling trips," kids
wringing their hands at "mother's little helpers" and loping after the
"Magic Bus." The surf wave of Top Forty radio was transformed a swampy
spawning ground of countercultural self-medication, and with the escalation
of the Vietnam War, anti-fascist politics.
Ironically, Top Forty, the pied piper of the rebellion, owes its
very existence to Elroy McCaw, Alan Freed's boss, the entrepreneurial
brains behind "big beat" radio and an old warrior at ease in the closed
chambers of the Washington's national security elite: "Elroy's government
contacts were extensive" per Sklar. "He had maintained many of his OSS
connections after the war and was quite probably still engaged in
government intelligence work during the time that he owned WINS. McCaw
associates tell of saying good-bye to him in New York, with plans to meet
him in Chicago the next day, only to have McCaw call from Cairo and cancel
the meeting He was a member of the National Security Advisory Council
(NSC), placed there, along with other key industry figures, by his old
boss, Air Force General Hap Arnold."4  Elroy McCaw was the "unauthorized
civilian" whose inadvertent admission to an NSC meeting at the White House,
chaired by John F. Kennedy, who had never met the man and thought him an
intruder, caused a press furor in 1961. (The NSC and General Henry H. "Hap"
Arnold, commanding general of U.S. Army Air Forces during WW II, both
played significant 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: SCLP Critical of Drug Dealer Liability Act

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

The feds are slowing usurping the powers of the lower Courts contrary to
law.  All Courts the judges must be elected by the people with the
exception of the Federal Courts.

Here in Ohio, we have a Federal Judge who heads up the system who is
over 90 years old, and the non=eledted Referees run the Court.  One
Federal Judge arrested for a drunk driving charge escaped notice; and
here is the beginning of newspapers controlling the Courts.slowing
taking the lower Courts jurisdiction by passing these lawsand what
is behind this?

Protecting the big drug dealers who remain in the background, reaping in
millionswith their summer homes in Florida in vast estates with
docks, landing stripsand yes, watch the market drop when a big bust
takes place.

You cannot run the lower Courts; the judges are elected.  The Federal
Judges - these are the ones elected for lifeby appointment, not by
ballot.

Watch out here.anyone - give me an application to join the
Militia..I finally see the light.

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[CTRL] Chiquita story far from over in Cincinnati

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/088/living/Chiquita_story_far_from_over_in_C
incinnatiP.shtml
A HREF="http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/088/living/Chiquita_story_far_from_
over_in_CincinnatiP.shtml"Boston Globe Online: Print it!/A
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THE MEDIA
Chiquita story far from over in Cincinnati
By Mark Jurkowitz, Globe Staff, 03/29/99



NINE MONTHS after the Cincinnati Enquirer was forced to offer an
extraordinary public apology for its tough investigative series on the
operations of Chiquita Brands International, the fallout from the
episode has been widespread.



The Enquirer and Chiquita, two of Cincinnati's most powerful
institutions, have been damaged. Careers have been destroyed. And one of
journalism's most sacrosanct principles - the relationship between
reporter and source - appears to be under serious assault.



In June 1998, acknowledging that it had illegally obtained Chiquita
voice-mail messages, the Enquirer fired the reporter who broke into the
system and the paper paid Chiquita at least $10 million in reparations.



Instead of being treated as a dispute between the Enquirer and Chiquita,
however, the purloined voice-mail messages spawned a local criminal
investigation that has cost about $500,000 and is now in the hands of a
reluctant prosecutor from a neighboring county. Several judges recused
themselves from the case because they took campaign contributions from
powerful Chiquita chairman Carl Lindner. The paper's allegations, which
ranged from charges of serious environmental abuse to accusations of a
bribery scheme, reportedly generated a Securities and Exchange
Commission probe of Chiquita. And former Chiquita lawyer George Ventura,
the man who soon faces trial for helping the Enquirer break into the
voice-mail system, and now works in Salt Lake City, says he was betrayed
by reporters who promised to protect him as a confidential source.



''It's been a big black eye,'' said Skip Tate, associate editor of
Cincinnati Magazine and president of the Cincinnati chapter of the
Society of Professional Journalists. ''It's made the Cincinnati Enquirer
look bad. It's made Cincinnati look bad. We spent a half-million dollars
in taxpayer money and what's come out of it? Some guy from [Utah] is on
trial and that's it.''



The impact of banana-gate is most obvious at the Enquirer (circulation
around 200,000). Larry Beaupre, the editor during the investigation, has
moved on to a post with corporate parent Gannett. One of the Chiquita
reporters - Cameron McWhirter - is now at The Detroit News. And then
there is Mike Gallagher, the hard-nosed reporter who was fired after the
Enquirer concluded he was ''involved in the theft'' of the voice-mail
messages.



Last September, Gallagher struck a deal with special prosecutor Perry
Ancona. He pleaded guilty to two felony charges in connection with the
voice-mail thefts and agreed, in return, to cooperate and ''provide a
full, truthful, and complete disclosure as to all `sources' and their
activities.''



That raised the possibility that Gallagher was prepared to abandon one
of journalism's cardinal rules by revealing a confidential source.
(Several years ago, in a case that went all the way up to the Supreme
Court, a source who had been promised anonymity successfully sued two
Minnesota papers who identified him in the story.)



The promise of confidentiality ''is going to be a large issue at some
point,'' said Ventura's lawyer Marc Mezibov. ''What's under attack here
... is how news-gatherers obtain information ... What is the legitimacy
of this notion that sources are protected?''



''Obviously [Gallagher] has his own set of interests to worry about,''
said Jane Kirtley, executive director of the Reporters Committee for
Freedom of the Press. But ''when I and others are out there arguing that
journalists are highly principled people who will go to the block rather
than name a source ... it's not helpful.''



John Fox, editor of Cincinnati's weekly CityBeat newspaper, put it more
bluntly. ''Why would a source ever trust a journalist again if the
journalist is going to rat him out?'' he asked.



''I don't know of any reporter who's [willing] to go to jail for an
indeterminate amount of time,'' countered Gallagher's attorney Patrick
Hanley.



The aggressive legal pursuit of the Enquirer's reporting techniques -
rather than the validity of that reporting - also conjures up memories
of Food Lion's lawsuit against ABC on the grounds that its undercover
reporters committed fraud to get the story. And it dismays media
observers who view this approach as a dangerous deterrent to
investigative journalism.



''You have these huge companies [like Chiquita] flexing their muscles in
this way, basically using public resources to bring what is basically a
private action,'' said Kirtley. A Chiquita spokesman declined to comment
on the case. Enquirer publisher Harry 

[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Special TiM GW Bulletin on Kosovo Crisis: Day 6, Update 1 (Mar. 29; 7:50PM EST)

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HEADLINES

Belgrade:  1. Photos of Damage to Civilian Structures Poster

Belgrade:  2. Serb Air Defense Claims 13 NATO Craft Shot Down, Over
30 Missiles

Washington:  3. Even Establishment Media Fed Up with Disinformation

Belgrade:   4. Serbian Farmers vs. NATO

Toronto: 5. Two Russian Nuclear Power Warships Sail to Cyprus;
Is a Greco-Turkish War Next?

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1. Photos of Damage to Civilian Structures Poster

BELGRADE, Mar. 29 - Since some TiM readers have written back and asked if
we could show them photos of damaged civilian structures in Serbia as a
result of the NATO bombing, we have posted them now at our Web site.  We've
also posted some pictures from yesterday's concert in Belgrade, including
those of kids wearing the TARGET signs.
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2. Serb Air Defense Claims 13 NATO Craft Shot Down, Over 30 Missiles

BELGRADE, Mar. 29 - A spokesman for the Serb Air Defenses wing of the
Yugoslav Army said at a press briefing today in Belgrade that his
organization shot down seven NATO airplanes, three  helicopters, three
pilotless remote controlled aircraft, and more than 30 missiles.  Keep in
mind that that's  ONLY the alleged scorecard for the YU Air Defense.  These
numbers do NOT include any hits scored by the YU Army's ground troops.

If even half of these claims are true, that's quite a few human casualties
which NATO is hiding from the public.  Will the relatives of these American
and other NATO soldiers killed in action have to wait for the YU Army to
tell them the awful news, while our Supreme Traitor-in-Chief and the
warmongers around him "lie and deny" everything?  No wonder even the
establishment press are fed up with them (see the next story).

In a related event, the Yugoslav Army decorated and promoted today to
higher ranks five Air Force pilots and three Air Defense air defense officers.


3. Even Establishment Media Fed Up with Disinformation

WASHINGTON, Mar. 28 - Even the establishment media are fed up with the
disinformation campaign launched by the Clinton administration and NATO.
Check out the story, "U.S. Tack: Demonize Enemy, Tightly Control
Information," in the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-03/27/065l-032799-idx.html



4. Serbian Farmers vs. NATO

BELGRADE, Mar. 29 - Serbian farmers have become a part of the war effort,
as they are harvesting the many radio locators which NATO planes had
dropped in order to mark the targets for future sorties.  Serb TV has shown
what these objects look like, and asked the Serb citizens to help find them
and remove them.  And the harvest is reportedly yielding bountyful results,
even though this is the time the fields should be plowed, not harvested.

The NATO planners have thought of all sorts of high tech star wars, but
they’ve neglected to consider a very basic fact, that "this is a county of
farmers!" as one of our Belgrade sources put it.


5. Two Russian Nuclear Power Warship Sail to Cyprus; ; Is a Greco-Turkish
War Next?

TORONTO, Mar. 29 - As we reported last week, two Russian ships have been
ordered to sea in order to conduct "exercises."  Now, the Toronto-based New
World Order Intelligence Update ( NWOIU) has provided additional details as
to their objective. "Peter the Great", a huge nuclear-power cruiser and the
aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov," will be transporting the S-300
missiles to the Greek military in Cyprus (for more background on this,
search our Web site for appropriate keywords).

John Whitley, a Canadian Vietnam veteran who publishes this report, sees a
good possibility that NATO's attack on Serbia may escalate into a war
between two NATO countries - Greece and Turkey.  If this were to happen, it
would bear out this writer's prediction made last summer (see "A Bear in
Sheep's Clothing," a column in the CHRONICLES magazine, available at our
Web site).

The heavily-armed, 823-foot long "Peter the Great", along with three other
warships of its class, was designed to smash U.S. aircraft carrier battle
groups, the New World Order Intelligence Update says. It carries a
formidable range of weaponry on a six-deck superstructure, including 20
SS-N-19 anti-ship surface-to-surface missiles.

Its consort on this maiden voyage to Cyprus, the "Admiral Kuznetzov",
carries 36 of the feared and deadly fourth-generation Sukhoi-27 fighters,
which in our opinion easily out-perform, out-range, and out-manoevre their
U.S. 

[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Know Your Banker too

[Kris Millegan]

[this article includes a fairly detailed description of current monitoring and
surveillance practices]


http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18821.html

 Know Your (Customer) Rights
 by Declan McCullagh

 3:00 a.m.  30.Mar.99.PST
 When federal regulators said last week
 they were abandoning a controversial
 plan to expand bank surveillance of
 customers, privacy advocates were
 hopping mad.

 The not-so-obvious reason? Banks
 already are required to monitor customers
 for "suspicious" deposits and withdrawals.
 And last week's decision to nix the formal
 "Know Your Customer" proposal didn't
 change that a bit.

 Over 88 percent of US banks had Know
 Your Customer policies in place as of
 January 1999, according to an American
 Bankers Association survey.

 To privacy advocates, it's a stark
 example of government meddling in
 personal lives.

 Groups as far apart on the political
 spectrum as the ACLU and the Libertarian
 Party have reacted in unison, launching
 campaigns that urge Americans to
 investigate their bank's current practices
 and, if necessary, to complain.

 The ACLU's online campaign, called "Know
 Your Banker," is scheduled to begin
 Tuesday.

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socialism (so´she-lîz´em) noun
  1. a. A social system in which the means of producing and
distributing goods are owned collectively and
political power is exercised by the whole community.
 b. The theory or practice of those who support such a
social system.
  2. The building of the material base for communism under
 the dictatorship of the proletariat in Marxist-Leninist
 theory.

personally, i'd go for 1
someone once said during the first world war that if it was up to the
people, the war would be over in a week. kinda unrelated, but there you go.
i believe that the system should be run by the people, when you fail to
trust the people, then you start the gradual decline form democracy into
dictatorship.

failing to trust the people is that mistake people like Castro and the
Soviets made. look what happened there.

capitalism (kàp´î-tl-îz´em) noun
   An economic system in which the means of production and
   distribution are privately or corporately owned and
   development is proportionate to the accumulation and
   reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

it's rather difficult to define something like capitalism, it's been with
us for thousands of years in so many different forms. socialism is kinda new.

As such Capitalism requires a separation of the State and
business in much the SAME capacity as Church-State separation.

but i think that government should get involved, because factory owners are
accountable to no-one but the shareholders. they have power over people's
lives without ever having been democratically elected. true (very important
word if you want to understand my argument) socialism and democracy are
inseperable. if control of the industry is centralised under an
undemocratic regime, then things get much, much worse. as it was in the USSR.

*My* definition of Statist (socialist, nazi-ist, fascist,
communist) would be anything other than providing ALL
individuals with a RIGHT to their own life.

as i say, socialism and capitalism are outside of these particular systems,
the nazis called themselves the national socialists, yet naziism (or
state-led racism of any kind) can exist in any monetary system. the
government always controls the police and army after all.

socialism as i believe in it (very loosely mind, my opinions are constantly
changing) is for the destruction of _social_ power, not personal power.
social power is defined as the power to control society, or a number of
members of society, which is in capitalist society, owned by corporations,
government, and the like. social power is most often used to take away
personal power.
personal power is defined as the right for the individual to control his or
her own life, and no-one elses. personal power is in control of no-one
elses personal power and therefore is a threat only to those who would seek
to control society, or certain members of society (did anyone mention the
government?)

socialism is not a perfect system, for it to truly work requires an immense
amount of hard-work and cleverness by a large number of extremely unselfish
people, and it often fails to live up to expectations. but capitalism is
riddled with problems as well, such as the abuse of the poor by the rich
(something which i believe the founders of america wanted to end.). Think
on this fact: america was populated mainly by the oppressed, the poor,
those escaping religious bigotry and the like (this is something i know
about, a massive number of the population of scotland and ireland left for
america after the irish famine and the highland clearances), america was
'concieved in liberty' (and it was). i don't know my american history too
well, but it seems to me that you originally tried to mix the best bits of
capitalism (economic freedom) with the best parts of socialism (protection
of personal rights, i'm sure you'll disagree with me on that.).

it seems to me not that socialism is taking over america, but that rather
something else, which is neither socialism or capitalism, but a mix of the
worst of both systems, the government AND industry seem to tread on and
abuse the poor,

from all reliable info, i personally would not like to live in america (no
offence to americans, i just don't like the american system of government).
you seem to live in an increasingly violent society (i've heard many tales
of kids shooting kids in high school in america, the sort of thing that
when it happened here prompted a widely supported drive to ban handguns).
violence seems to be an integral part of your society, people do not feel
safe in america, they feel as if they are under constant attack, why else
do people carry guns? someone who is assured of his safety doesn't go and
buy a gun. i'm not advocating gun-control here, because that doesn't solve
anything, it just pisses off the people who want to keep guns. if the
policy makers were to attack the disease rather than the sympoms of the
disease, then it'd 

[CTRL] Implications of an SA-3 Shoot Down of Stealth

[Kris Millegan]

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Implications of an SA-3 Shoot Down of Stealth
29 March 99 - 0736 GMT

The U.S. Defense Department has thus far refused to comment on how the
F-117 Stealth Fighter might have been shot down over Serbia, however,
speculation has centered around Yugoslavia's SA-3 surface to air missile
batteries. The F-117 wing being shown on Serbian television is peppered
with irregularly sized and spaced holes, suggesting the aircraft was
brought down by shrapnel from a large proximity fuzed warhead. While
this could have resulted from either an air to air missile or large
caliber anti-aircraft artillery, Serb attempts at interception have thus
far ended up as one way trips to the ground and AAA in the
concentrations the Serbs can employ would have had to be very good or
very lucky to bring down the Stealth. This leaves SAMs, and particularly
the SA-3.

The SA-3 is a low to medium altitude SAM, fired from a static launcher.
It has a maximum effective horizontal range of 22-25km and a maximum
effective altitude of 12-18km, depending on the missile variant. Initial
targeting comes from separate, van-mounted long-range radar, which feeds
information to a trailer mounted fire control radar. The missile itself
has a doppler radar proximity fuze. If an SA-3 did down the F-117, it
would indicate that, for the right high-value target, the Serbs are now
willing to utilize the anti-air assets they have until now been
withholding. With three separate radars, the SA-3 in action makes a
bright shiny target for any SEAD mission operating in support of the
F-117 bombing mission.

More interesting than the willingness of the Serbs to use the SA-3 at
this time is the apparent fact that the missile’s fixed launch site was
not previously identified by NATO reconnaissance and destroyed. Of
course, the most interesting feature of this incident is the fact that,
unless a lucky altitude or time-fuzed AAA round or an infrared AAM
downed the F-117, the supposedly radar stealthy aircraft was apparently
destroyed by an active radar guided weapon. There are three possible
explanations of this. First, the Stealth is not invisible to radar, it
just produces a very small radar signature. Maybe it was not small
enough. Second, there have been allegations that the Stealth’s
radar-absorbing paint is ineffective or at least less effective in the
rain – something akin to the invisible man walking through paint.
Finally, Russian scientists recently claimed to have developed a radar
that can detect stealth aircraft. If this is true, and played a role in
the shoot-down, it would mean that Russia is not only violating the arms
embargo against Yugoslavia, but is sending the very latest
state-of-the-art equipment to the Serbs.



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Single Currency

Nosedive of Euro Tests Resolve of ECB

Tietmeyer in a wringer

FRANKFURT - The euro slipped to fresh lows Monday, and Hans Tietmeyer,
president of the Bundesbank, expressed concern and vowed that the
European Central Bank would pursue a ''lastingly strong and stable
euro.''
''The euro must try to gain the strength of its predecessors and, above
all, must win confidence and a reputation of its own,'' Mr. Tietmeyer
said Monday night in a speech in the Dutch city of Utrecht, according to
an advance text of the remarks.

The new currency, which the 11-nation euro bloc launched in January, has
cascaded to a succession of new lows since its inception. At its weakest
point Monday, it fell to $1.0680 from its previous record low Friday
just above $1.0800. That is nearly 10 percent under its peak of $1.1837
on Jan. 4, its first day of trading.

At 3 P.M. in New York, the euro was quoted at $1.0737

Some currency market experts note that the main constituent currencies
of the euro - including the Deutsche mark and the French franc - are
still above their levels against the dollar of about a year ago, and
thus the euro itself is not weak by some measures. But others say they
think the euro could be headed for a period of further declines and
prolonged weakness.

A further slump in the euro amounts to a test of nerves for the newly
minted European Central Bank, economists concur. With the credibility of
Europe's most ambitious integration project at stake, the ECB is certain
to find a point where it must draw the line.

''The euro and its institutions are still too green and too short of
credibility for the ECB to ignore such a development,'' said Adolf
Rosenstock, economist in Frankfurt for Nomura International.

Analysts predict the three-month-old currency will slip to $1.05 or
lower, which translates to a dollar rate of 1.86 Deutsche marks - a
level of weakness that the Bundesbank historically defended, said
Gerhard Grebe, analyst in Frankfurt for Bank Julius Baer AG. Mr.
Rosenstock sees the euro headed as low as $1.03

In his speech in Utrecht, Mr. Tietmeyer appeared resigned to the factors
that inflate the dollar's value, such as the ''special international
developments'' in Kosovo and the ''unexpectedly strong economic
performance'' in the United States.

But while he warned against panic, he vowed to monitor the euro's
well-being. ''Composure is appropriate, but disregard is not,'' he said.


''We in the ECB do not pursue an exchange-rate target but we are of
course interested in a lastingly strong and stable euro,'' he said.

And while many say the euro's exchange rate reflects a strong dollar
more than a weak euro, others note that the euro failed to make gains
against the yen following the latest reductions in Japanese interest
rates.

''It is somewhat surprising that the euro has not been stronger than the
yen, given the easing of Japanese monetary policy,'' said Brendan Brown,
economist in London for the Tokyo-Mitsubishi International PLC. ''You
might have expected the euro to do better, but it has not.''

In the view of some economists, the euro's weakening reflects lost faith
over European integration.

Some investors bid the euro lower because of confusion in Europe over
the appropriate combination of economic policies as politicians and
central bankers clash over reasons for high unemployment and tepid
commercial activity. Others note disparities in the economic cycles
among the 11 euro-bloc economies, dashing the notion of economic
cohesion. Germany, the traditional powerhouse economy of Europe,
contracted in the fourth quarter last year while its closest economic
partners like France register brisker growth.

Other pressures on the euro emanate from far-reaching sources.

Fears of an escalating and bloody conflict on Europe's fringe have
prompted investors to channel funds into the dollar under an instinctive
capital flight to a ''safe-haven'' currency.

Markets, meanwhile, increasingly are betting that the ECB will need to
lower interest rates just as the Federal Reserve might need to raise
dollar-denominated lending rates in a move that favors the dollar at the
euro's expense. And the dollar has also drawn strength as European
growth rates slowed this year to a degree that alarms some politicians
while robust U.S. growth rates confound economists with unexpected
vigor.

For many politicians and business executives across Europe, however,
there is another side to the euro coin:

Its slump bolsters European exports by making European products cheaper
on the world market. This in turn provides a stronger, broader and
faster economic elixir than any interest-rate easing, economists say.

Knowing the exchange rates are a powerful economic tool, politicians
have done little to impede the euro's decline.

The French finance minister, Dominique 

[CTRL] Did Russians Get Whitehouse.gov?

[Kris Millegan]

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Did Russians Get Whitehouse.gov?
by Declan McCullagh
3:00 a.m.  29.Mar.99.PST
WASHINGTON -- The official White House Web site was offline all day
Sunday in what appeared to be its most serious outage to date.
A Russian online newspaper reported that anti-NATO crackers were
responsible, but a source close to whitehouse.gov blamed a hardware
failure.

The site was down until about 10 a.m. EST Monday. Vistors were unable to
connect, although email to and from whitehouse.gov continued to work.

"They have a problem that is not related to an external attack," the
source said Sunday.

The White House is a popular target for cracking attempts, but no
content on the site has ever been altered. Dozens of break-in attempts
happen every day, the source said.

On Sunday, a number of other Web sites found their home pages replaced
with identical protests of US and NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.

"Russian hackers demand to stop terrorist aggression against
Jugoslavia!" said one message on a Web site operated by Orange Coast
College in Costa Mesa, California. Another note on the same page: "To
Adolf Clinton: FUCK OUT, looser!! Go fucks Monica!"

Other sites that boasted the same message included cfmsd.com and
darkarmies.com.

The Moscow-based Gazeta.Ru online newspaper said Russian crackers had
broken into those sites -- and had pulled the plug on whitehouse.gov
too.

"Russian computer crime authorities, contacted by the newspaper,
declared that they would confront these hacking attacks with same
severity as they would have done in any other case of unauthorised
penetration into computer networks (punishable under section 272 of
Russia's Penal Code, 1997).

But the authorities went on to stress, that 'no complaint was filed so
far from the American side, which would be necessary for us to start any
sort of proceedings,'" Anton Nossik, who wrote the article, told Wired
News in an email message.

Security experts said whitehouse.gov was likely offline for one of three
reasons: A compromised router, a hardware failure, or a
denial-of-service attack in which the server is overloaded by attackers.


Peter Shipley, the chief security architect for KPMG, said there's no
easy defense against denial-of-service attacks. Once recognized,
however, they can be dealt with within minutes or hours.

Shipley also said it was unlikely a hardware failure by itself would
bring a site like whitehouse.gov down for a day or more.

"You can bring a router back online rather easily," he said. "It's hard
to believe a router would keep a site down for 24 hours."

PSI.net, which provides the White House's link to the outside world, did
not immediately return phone calls late Sunday. Neither did a White
House spokesman.
Related Wired Links:
Closing the Window on the War
29.Mar.99
Yugoslav Net at the Brink
26.Mar.99
Email Assist for Yugoslavs
26.Mar.99
Net Dispatches from Kosovo's War
26.Mar.99
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26.Mar.99
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[CTRL] Today's Lesson From Assassination Politics/Case Title: Cypherpunks

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Today's Lesson From Assassination Politics

by Jim Bell


This country has learned, in numerous examples subsequent to many wars,
that once the political disputes between leaders has ceased, we
(ordinary citizens) are able to get along pretty well with the citizens
of other countries. Classic examples are post-WWII Germany, Japan, and
Italy, and post-Soviet Russia, the Eastern bloc, Albania, and many
others.

Contrary examples are those in which the political dispute remains, such
as North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba, Red China, and a few others. In all
of these examples, the opposing leadership was NOT defeated, either in
war or in an internal power struggle. Clearly, it is not the PEOPLE who
maintain the dispute, but the leadership.

Consider how history might have changed if we'd been able to "bump off"
Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Kim Il Sung, Ho Chi Minh,
Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Moammar Khadafi, and various others,
along with all of their replacements if necessary, all for a measly few
million dollars, rather than the billions of dollars and millions of
lives that subsequent wars cost.

But that raises an interesting question, with an even more interesting
answer. "If all this is so easy, why hasn't this been done before?" I
mean, wars are destructive, costly, and dangerous, so why hasn't some
smart politician figured out that instead of fighting the entire
country, we could just 'zero' the few bad guys on the top?

The answer is quite revealing, and strikingly "logical": If we can kill
THEIR leaders, they can kill OUR leaders too. That would avoid the war,
but the leadership on both sides would be dead, and guess who is making
the decisions about what to do? That's right, the LEADERS!

And the leaders (both theirs and ours!) would rather see 30,000,000
ordinary people die in WWII than lose their own lives, if they can get
away with it. Same in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, and numerous other
disputes around the globe. You can see that as long as we continue to
allow leaders, both "ours" and "theirs," to decide who should die, they
will ALWAYS choose the ordinary people of each country.
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29 March 1999

See related files: Jim Bell http://jya.com/jdbfiles.htm
Carl Johnson http://jya.com/cejfiles.htm




Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:09:32 +0200 (CEST)
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United States Department of Justice
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1.CASE # 2.DATE OF REPORT   3. REPORTED
   11/25/97BY: Lisa Stephenson
   Deputy U.S. Marshal
4.CASE TITLE:  AT: Tacoma WA
  CYPHERPUNKS

5.OTHER DEPUTIES:

6.TYPE OF REPORT (Check One):  [ ] ARREST
  [ ] REPORT OF ELECTRONIC INTERCEPTION[ ] INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
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   On November 25, 1997, Inspector Jeff GORDAN with the Internal
Revenue Service (IRS) Portland, Oregon, contacted the U.S.
Marshals Service, Tacoma, Washington, regarding an internet
posting he had obtained on this day (see attached).

[http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.97.11.20-97.11.26/msg00274.html]

   On the same date, Deputy U.S. Marshal STEPHENSON contacted
Inspector GORDAN in an attempt obtain further details regarding
the individuals mentioned in the internet posting. Inspector
GORDAN related the following:

   On May 17, 1997, the IRS in Vancouver, Washington, arrested
James Dalton BELL (#26906-086) for threats, assaults,
obstruction, and intimidation of employees and officers of the
IRS. During IRS's initial investigation of BELL, the IRS
discovered that BELL was associated with the Multnomah County
Common Law Court as well as the author of "Assassination
Politics", an essay that describes and advocates the development
and use of a system to reward people who kill selected Government
employees. BELL was also known to transmit his beliefs via
internet services (see W/WA case #CR97-5270FDB).

   Inspector GORDON indicated that since BELL's arrest his office
has been monitoring internet postings by the 

[CTRL] Fwd: Greece/Turkey

[Kris Millegan]

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March 30, 1999

Greco-Turkish Dispute Threatens to Deepen Fissures in NATO

Summary:

Turkey has alleged that Greek air defense radar systems locked on
to a Turkish fighter aircraft earlier this month, nearly causing
an international incident.  Turkey warned Greece that a repeat of
the incident would be answered with a Turkish attack.  While
relations between Turkey and Greece have been contentious for
some time, the timing of this particular incident is cause for
concern, given the current situation in the Balkans.

Analysis:

On March 29, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported an incident
that took place earlier this month between Greece and Turkey.
Turkey claimed that at 0030 GMT on March 19 one of its F-16
fighter aircraft flying in international airspace was illuminated
by Greek radar.  Turkey stated that the radar signal originated
from a missile site on the island of Limnos.  According to the
report in Hurriyet, when the pilot realized the radar was
tracking him he radioed for instructions and was told to return
to base.  Turkey later sent Greece a warning stating that pilots
would be instructed to destroy missile sites in the future if
they were tracked by air defense radar.  The report in Hurriyet
claimed that the two countries had nearly gone to war over the
incident.

Relations between Turkey and Greece have been simmering for some
time now, having been on the verge of armed conflict more than
once in the past few years over the location of their border in
the Aegean Sea.  What makes this latest incident noteworthy is
the timing of the incident in relation to the crisis unfolding in
the Balkans.  While both nations are members of NATO, Turkey has
committed aircraft to the bombing campaign in support of co-
religionists in Kosovo, whereas Greece recently voiced its
opposition to NATO's military action.  On March 26, Greek
government spokesman Yanis Nicolau said, "It is time to return to
political discussions to find a political solution for Kosovo and
to end the bombings." He added that his country indicated its
position to NATO clearly and that "it was not alone in calling
for [a] halt to the air raids."

Another notable opponent to military action against Serbia is
Russia, with whom Greece has become quite friendly.  Russia has
provided training for Greek pilots, and is selling Greece S-300
surface-to-air (SAM) missiles for deployment on behalf of Greek-
dominated Cyprus.  The planned sale of the S-300 missiles to
Cyprus nearly sparked a war between Greece and Turkey, as Ankara
vowed to destroy them before they could be deployed.
Additionally, earlier this year the U.S. accused Greece of having
supplied the Russians with NATO aircraft jamming codes.  These
codes would enable Russia to jam weapons guidance systems on NATO
aircraft.  While this allegation has yet to be proven, the mere
fact that NATO secrets may have been compromised certainly casts
doubt on Greek commitment to the West.

This latest incident between Turkey and Greece exposes what is
perhaps the deepest fracture within NATO.  Although NATO
officials continue to affirm that the organization is of one mind
concerning military action in the Balkans, Stratfor believes this
may not be the case.  Greece is not comfortable with a war on
behalf of a Moslem population to its north -- a potential ally of
the Turks.  Turkey, in turn, has apparently seized on Greek
opposition to NATO action over Kosovo to push for U.S., European,
and NATO support for Turkey's side of the feud.  Publicizing a
Greek action that threatened the stability of NATO just as the
organization was preparing for action against Yugoslavia may be a
Turkish attempt to win points with the West, but it also reminds
Russia of the powerful lever it has against NATO.  Russia has
used that lever before through the Cyprus missile sale, and given
the current state of affairs in Kosovo, Russia and the Serbs will
no doubt want to pry at this fracture in NATO's armor some more.

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[CTRL] Russia's Anger Makes for War Talk

[Bill Richer]

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Russia's Anger Makes for War Talk
 J.R. Nyquist
March 30, 1999

When US and NATO warplanes struck Yugoslavia last week, President Boris
Yeltsin warned of a global war. But Western leaders have seemingly scoffed at
Yeltsin's statement, and those of other Russian leaders.

By ignoring such peril, Western leaders have taken a casual approach to Russia
that may be intensifying Russia's growing animus toward the West.

To date, no high level meetings between Russian and American officials have
been arranged to address Moscow's concerns. The usual anxiety about US-Russian
relations is almost non-existent. At the State Department, James Rubin offered
the belief that "President Yeltsin, Prime Minister Primakov and Foreign
Minister Ivanov see the value of keeping the relationship (between the U.S.
and Russia) on track, and not letting someone like Milosevic derail everything
that's at stake."

Yet the relationship is not on track.

After the air assault on Yugoslavia began last Wednesday the Russians froze
their relationship with NATO. They pulled Russian ground troops out of the
Bosnia Stabilization Force. They also expelled the NATO representative in
Moscow.

Ominously, they discontinued their cooperation on the Y2K problem -- a problem
that could have catastrophic consequences for Russia unless they receive
Western help.

Then, the Russians canceled a planned visit by Pentagon officials to discuss
the dismantling of Russian nuclear weapons. Worse still, according to Russian
news reports, the Kremlin is contemplating the deployment of tactical nuclear
weapons and bombers to Belarus. Belarus is Russia's invasion pathway to
Europe.

An alarm has been sounded throughout Russia.

When NATO bombs began falling on Russia's ally, Yugoslavia, the banner
headline of Kommersant, a business newspaper, simply said: "The Blow."
Segodnya's ominous headline explained: "It's war. The Americans cannot
convince the Serbs, and Russia cannot convince the Americans." Vremya's
headline stated: "NATO planes have attacked Yugoslavia as well as Moscow's
international authority."

On Saturday Russian lawmakers, meeting in emergency session, passed a
resolution 366-4 that called the NATO air assault on Yugoslavia "an act of
aggression that is a gross violation of the UN Charter ..." The four page
resolution further stated: "The aggression against Russia's ally Yugoslavia is
seen as a serious threat to Russian security."

Nikolai Zyubov, an independent political analyst, has stated that due to NATO
air attacks on Serbia: "Russians are far more anti-American today than they
have ever been." But more than this, he pointed out that Russia now feels
threatened.

Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the Russian Communist Party declared: "The
Americans have gone down the path of Hitlerism. The use of force has become
the main argument in their policy, and so have blackmail, bombs and threats."

The liberal Russian newspaper Izvestia called NATO's bombing campaign a "royal
gift" to the Communists in the Russian Duma. "The Party of retrogrades," said
Izvestia, "does not require a new strategy at all, as the NATO alliance has of
its own accord provided proof of the slogans of anti-American propaganda."

Russian outrage has been apparent at the US Embassy in Moscow. Angry Russians
have pelted the US Embassy with eggs. The protestors are often heard shouting
anti-American slogans. One placard said: "NATO go to Hell."

On Sunday the protest almost turned violent when an attempt was made to use a
grenade launcher against the Embassy building. Afterward, one of the Russian
protesters snarled: "I hope the Russian government will understand and take
this unique chance to start a war against the enemies of the Russians and of
all Slav people."

A leading Russian analyst, Leonod Radzikhovsky stated that "xenophobia, envy
and hatred of America are deep rooted feelings in Russia." And now these
feelings have been awakened.

Valdimir Zhirinovsky, wearing a military uniform, called for Russian
volunteers to fight NATO. "The Third World War started on March 24," he said.

Thousands of young Russians have answered Zhirinovsky's call. Colonel General
Viktor Chechevatov, commander of Russia's Far East Military District, has
offered to lead a combined Russian force of "volunteers and regulars" into
Yugoslavia.

The Russian foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, spoke of the unity of the entire
Russian nation in the face of America's bid for "global domination."

He called it the worst crisis since the Second World War. The usually polite
Ivanov further accused NATO of "blatant genocide," saying that NATO bombs have
killed approximately one thousand Serbs. Ivanov has also called for the
criminal prosecution of those responsible for the bombing. "We have extreme
measures in reserve," warned Ivanov.

"The NATO aggression against Yugoslavia is a very big mistake by American
diplomacy and by Clinton," Ivanov said.

Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov, a likely candidate for the 

Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

[John Szocik]

 -Caveat Lector-

I'm sorry to say that at this moment the source escapes me. I did read it
perhaps several weeks ago from a reputable source; otherwise I would have held
my tongue if I thought for a minute that this remark was from anything but
some respectable journal.
When I do recall the source, I will post it immediately!
Thanks for your patience and understanding until then.
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

[John Szocik]

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Yes!
 This definitely sounds like the source from which I also heard from. I did
not read the whole book, but I scanned through a significant portion.
I 'm pleased that someone was able to spare me the anxiety of trying to
remember where I've heard or read it from. Thanks!
There you go Rick, I hope this is sufficient per your request.
JOHN

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[CTRL] More About Mellissa Virus

[Bill Richer]

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Tuesday March 30 1:49 AM ET

'Melissa' Virus Plays Havoc With E-Mail

By Dick Satran

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A computer virus described as the most widespread
ever hit the Internet Monday, forcing some companies to shut electronic mail
systems and prompting an investigation by the FBI cybercrime unit.

Computer security firms had issued warnings through a wide variety of media
over the weekend that the virus called ''Melissa'' would be sprung on millions
of users.

``This has caused the havoc we expected,'' said Sal Viveros, a vice president
of marketing at the No. 1 computer security firm, Network Associates Inc., in
a Monday conference call. ''It's seriously hit virtually everyone.''

The virus, named Melissa, greeted huge numbers of workers as they signed on to
their e-mail systems at the start of the work week, spreading ``more quickly
than any other virus in the history of viruses,'' Viveros said.

The Federal Bureau of Investigations's National Infrastructure Protection
Center said it was notified of the virus Friday and has received reports of
``significant network degradation and e-mail outages'' at major corporations
and Internet service providers.

The virus uses a high-powered automation technology built into most personal
computers, and a simple, personal touch, to propagate itself.

Often disguised as a message from a friend or colleague, Melissa is a simple
e-mail sent to unsuspecting users, saying ''Important message from'' But
when users open the message, it can cause a flood of new e-mails to be sent
over the Internet from the reader's own online address book.

Clicking on the e-mail triggers a powerful ``macro'' -- automation software
built into millions of computers using Microsoft's Windows operating system --
that can automatically trigger up to 50 new e-mails.

In many cases, computer users are warned of the presence of the automated
messaging, but the virus de-activates the warning system for some computers,
making it harder to detect.

The virus appeared not to have caused any significant damage to computers,
although it flooded some e-mail services and exposed a weakness that future
hackers could exploit more maliciously.

Indeed, Network Associates said a more damaging virus, code-named ``Papa'',
had already cropped up Monday. It was a more elaborate program using a similar
e-mail delivery of a macro that could disrupt Excel spreadsheets.

The biggest impact, though, appeared to come from a temporary shutdown of
computer systems by cautious computer managers trying to keep their systems
from being overwhelmed. Computer experts said it was also possible that other
confidential documents could be sent inadvertently, though Network Associates
knew of no such cases.

``A number of our large customers have had to take their servers down and for
a lot of companies e-mail is the main method of communications,'' said Network
Associates's Viveros. ''Having that down has caused lots of havoc.''

At Pittsburgh's Carnegie Mellon University, the Computer Emergency Response
Team received scores of inquiries.

``We are getting a steady stream of phone calls this morning from
organizations who have been affected by the virus,'' Jeff Carpenter at CERT
said Monday.

CERT estimated the bug affected more than 100,000 machines. Carpenter said
more than 150 companies had complained about Melissa.

The virus comes in the form of a document that lists pornography sites on the
Internet's World Wide Web of computer networks.

One office worker in Austin, Texas, Jennifer Mehlow, said she got a message
that appeared to be from a colleague in the company. But when she saw the list
of porn sites, she reported it to her computer system manager. By then, the
macro had been triggered, sending scores of messages over the Internet.

``I came in this morning and I had 213 nasty e-mails attacking me,'' said
Mehlow, a press relations specialist at Fleishman-Hillard in Austin.

Lucent Technologies Inc. (NYSE:LU - news) the world's largest
telecommunications equipment maker, Friday received a copy of the tainted
note. It shut its e-mail system for the weekend in an effort to inoculate
itself, a Lucent spokesman said.

Intel Corp. (Nasdaq:INTC - news) and Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) were
other leading companies that reported being hit by Melissa, although Microsoft
Chairman Bill Gates said the response generally showed the industry's anti-
virus system works well.

``We and some of our partners who focus on the whole antivirus area had to
respond pretty quickly last week,'' said Gates in a conference call. ``As far
as I know, that information is getting out to people and this particular virus
has been addressed.''

Several anti-virus software makers, including Network Associates Inc. and
Symantec Corp. (Nasdaq:SYMC - news), Sendmail Inc. and Trend Micro have posted
to their Web sites programs that can detect the virus and repair systems that
have been infected.

Warning!  Melissa Virus

[CTRL] Siener van Rensburg----when the ice begins to melt?

[Taylor, John (JH)]

 -Caveat Lector-

Siener van Rensburg


I watched an interesting program a couple of nights ago. I put it in the
strange but interesting category of events.

At the turn of the century there was an unknown(to the world) afrikaans
'prophet' who was called "seer van rensburg" who was a south african
nostradamus.. Unlike nostradamus however he more a biblical figure who was
within the dutch reformed church . also unlike nostradamus he was an
illiterate man whose prophecies were recorded by his daughter. He however
did not live 500yrs ago and his prophecies were with contemporary events.
Like all such prophecies, they were given in visionary form and open to
speculation

(this also involves the question of how to describe future events-how would
one describe a chernobyl type of disaster, if you were making it in 1917,
when barely the fundamentals of nuclear physics were understood---one of his
prohecies did seem to indicate this event but is not earth shattering)

He also used certain symbols consistently for certain object/ country. Blue
was to him the symbol germany and europe. Red was the symbol of danger.

His life and his prophecies were also directly recorded and often told
directly to the people for whom they were intended. He died in 1926

Some apparent succees

Before the boer war he foresaw the concentration camps in which about 20-30%
of the atransvaal afrikaans wpmen and children died. Two of his own children
died9the pictures of the camps shown on the TV were similar to anything I
have seen about the holocaust with starving emaciated chidren --only the
numbers were lacking)(significant numbers of blacks also died.. but that's
another topic)
Two of his own children died in the concentration camps.


He was instrumental in saving a number of boer soldiers during the war.

After the war, he was violently anti british and supported general de la ray
in his opposition to the Smuts government and his trying to promote a
revolt. About 2 weeks before Del la rey's death by 'accidental' shooting at
a road block, Van rensburg warned de la rey of the location and certain
circumstances of his death.

prophecies fulfilled in his lifetime.

Others that appear to have been fulfilled after his lifetime

The rise of afrikaner nationalism and control of South Africa.

The rise of black nationalism and the fall of the Afrikaner from power.(in
the 1920's when black dominance was unthinkable)

The involvement of a leader from vreeniging in the fall of white SA(FW De
Klerk was the MP for vreeniging)and strangley he forecast a petrol
factory near vreeniging  that is near where the Sasol(started in 1955)
factory converts coal to petrol and diesel...indeed a petrol factory

He saw the 2nd world war, and concentration camps in that war

The division of europe

The later unity of europe around germany

A gulf war.



And for the future?


A second gulf war where russia, china and the middle east combine against
the west.
The west prevails but britain is destroyed.


A giant warf involving   germ warfare and rays that destroy the earth.


The fall of Africa into anarchy and starvation(but that I suppose is already
happening.)

The revival of white nationalism


The rise of afrikaans power, an terrific struggle and the shedding of much
blood (literally a pale of blood which falls) before its re-establishment
during the fiercest struggle that the afrikaners have experienced.


When asked when this would all happen he could only reply that it was all in
the Lords hands.

But almost on his death bed, he was asked again and he replied."when the
ice begins to melt"


John


PS have a nice day

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[CTRL] Fwd: Von Karman's Long-Range Plans

[Kris Millegan]

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Dr. Theodore von Karman is considered to be one of the great aeronautical
scientists of
the twentieth century./p

pVon Karman was born in Budapest and spent most of his life as a science
teacher in
Europe and the United States./p

pVon Karman's contributions to the scientific community were significant and
continue to
have impact on modern testing technologies./p

pHe developed many theories of aeronautical and space science, such as the
effects of
forces and currents on aircraft and spacecraft. He was instrumental in
developing
supersonic aircraft and Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles./p

pVon Karman was also involved in the practical side of developmental
breakthroughs in
aviation. He helped develop the world's largest rocket corporation, the
Aerojet-General
Corporation. He was also instrumental in founding the Jet Propulsion
Laboratory to develop
rocket propulsion./p

pHe was also responsible for the establishment of AGARD, the aeronautical
research arm
of NATO, serving as the organization's first chairman./p

pBut the contribution to science and engineering that stands out most in the
minds of
Middle Tennesseans is von Karman's role in the establishment of the Arnold
Engineering
Development Center./p

pa href="hap.htm"General Arnold/a requested von Karman to design a
20-foot,
40,000-horsepower wind tunnel for Wright Field in 1939. This was the first
facility of its
kind, necessary for the Air Corps to make major advances in flight./p

pIn 1944, at General Arnold's request, von Karman established a scientific
advisory
group to quot;develop a blueprint for air research for the next twenty,
thirty, perhaps
fifty years.quot;/p

pIn the spring of 1945, von Karman sent a group of scientists to Europe to
question
German scientists and engineers about their rapid progress in aviation during
the war. Of
great importance were their visits to the BMW aircraft engine factor in
Munich, the
Aerodynamic Laboratory formerly at Peemunde, and Oetztal, a site in the
Tyrolian Alps,
where the world's most powerful wind tunnel was then under construction./p

pIn December 1945, Dr. von Karman's group presented their findings in a
report they
called, a href="horizons.htm"Toward New Horizons/a, which laid out a
blueprint for an
Air Force research and development facility. According to von Karman, the
report
quot;looked at the basic scientific potential which could change the
future.quot;/p

pVon Karman's proposal for a center for the study and development of jet
propulsion,
supersonic aircraft and ballistic missiles became a reality in Middle
Tennessee./p

pIn 1959 the AEDC a href="factsheets/vkf/vkf.html" target="_top"Gas
Dynamics Facility/a
was renamed after Dr. von Karman, then chief scientific advisor to the Air
Force./p

pDr. Theodore von Karman was enshrined in the National Aviation Hall of Fame
in July
1983, for his outstanding contributions to aviation and space technology his
theoretical
studies and practical applications of aerodynamics to improve aircraft
performance and his
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[CTRL] Fictitious Capital

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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From wsws.org


WSWS : News  Analysis : North America : US Economy

Fictitious capital and the rise of the Dow

By Nick Beams
30 March 1999

As the Dow Jones industrial index edged towards 10,000 in Wall Street
trading earlier this month, a commentator on the CNBC business channel was
heard to remark: "Let us wait a while and see if we can add some more
value."

Then there was a somewhat nervous laugh, as both he and his co-commentator
seemed to realize, if only for a moment, how ludicrous the comment sounded.

But in fact it was no more ridiculous than many of the other statements
that have accompanied the surge on Wall Street over the past few years.
There have been claims that the United States is now a "new economy" and
that the stock market boom signifies the emergence of a "new economic
paradigm" based on information technology. Last year, the US Federal
Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan, who had warned of "irrational
exuberance" in December 1996, joined the chorus, proclaiming that it seemed
that the US had moved "beyond history", so that fluctuations in the
business cycle no longer applied.

In order to pierce the web of illusions that surround the stock market
boom, and which seem to lend credence to such claims, it is necessary to
grasp what is actually involved in share trading, and its relationship to
the functioning of the capitalist economy as a whole.

The buying and selling of shares on the stock market represents neither the
creation of new value, nor the injection of increased capital into the
firms whose shares are being traded--except in the case of new issues,
which comprise a relatively small part of the market. When, for example, a
General Motors share is bought and sold the capital of the company does not
change, its physical assets remain the same and its profits do not
increase. All that has changed is the ownership of the company, in
particular the entitlement to a share of the profits expected to be
generated in the future.

The illusions surrounding stock market trading are by no means a new
phenomenon. In fact they were analyzed in a work published by the Austrian
Marxist economist Rudolf Hilferding at the beginning of the century.

In his book Finance Capital Hilferding explained that the money, which
circulates in the share market is quite different from the initial funds
advanced to the corporation and used to purchase industrial capital.

The money that is acquired from the sale of shares, he noted, "is not the
same money which was originally supplied by shareholders and then used in
production. It is not a constituent part of the corporation's capital, but
rather an additional quantity of money required for the circulation of the
capitalized claims to income."

In this process there appears to be a doubling of the amount of capital.
There is the capital, which has been deployed in the establishment of the
corporation, plus the capital that circulates on the stock market in the
buying and selling of shares. This rise in the latter forms the basis of
the illusion that the stock market is "creating value".

"The share," Hilferding explained, " ... may be defined as a title to
income, a creditor's claim upon future production, or claim upon profit.
Since the profit is capitalized, and the capitalized sum constitutes the
price of the share, the price of the share seems to contain a second
capital. But this is an illusion. What really exists is the industrial
capital and its profit. But this does not prevent the fictitious 'capital'
from existing in an accounting sense and from being treated as 'share
capital'. In reality it is not capital, but only the price of a revenue; a
price which is possible only because in capitalist society every sum of
money yields an income and therefore every income appears to be the product
of a sum of money" [Rudolf Hilferding, Finance Capital, pp. 110-111].

Hilferding pointed out that the illusion was assisted in the case of
industrial capital because, in addition to shares, there does exist
actually functioning industrial capital. The nature of fictitious capital,
however, became apparent by considering other forms of claims to revenue.
Bonds issued by the state, for example, continue to claim a portion of the
income raised through taxation, even though the money issued by the state's
creditors may have been used to finance the purchase of assets that could
have long ago "gone up in smoke."

In words which have a direct relevance to the surge in the Dow Jones index,
Hilferding continued: "On the stock exchange capitalist property appears in
its pure form, as a title to the yield, and the relation of exploitation,
the appropriation of surplus labour, upon which it rests, becomes
conceptually lost. Property ceases to express any specific relation of
production and becomes a claim to the yield, apparently unconnected with
any particular activity. ... Number is everything; the thing itself is
nothing" [op cit p. 149].

Re: [CTRL] More About Mellissa Virus

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Come on conspirators what do you think ... have heard nary a peep
on this one which affects us all so strongly . Is it a Big
Brother move to convince us of the fact that tracking software is
our friend and will keep these things from happening ? Did the
White House do it to try and prevent us from ganging up on
Klinton or finding out the truth ? Was it just a hacker out to
attack the Korporate world ?The campaign against pornography on
the web ? the Russians ? AOL?

Surely someone has some ideas to share 

Divine~

==
If you don't have anything nice to say , come sit next to me .
==

--- Bill Richer  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 Tuesday March 30 1:49 AM ET

 'Melissa' Virus Plays Havoc With E-Mail

 By Dick Satran

 SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A computer virus described as the
 most widespread
 ever hit the Internet Monday, forcing some companies to shut
 electronic mail
 systems and prompting an investigation by the FBI cybercrime
 unit.

 Computer security firms had issued warnings through a wide
 variety of media
 over the weekend that the virus called ''Melissa'' would be
 sprung on millions
 of users.

 ``This has caused the havoc we expected,'' said Sal Viveros, a
 vice president
 of marketing at the No. 1 computer security firm, Network
 Associates Inc., in
 a Monday conference call. ''It's seriously hit virtually
 everyone.''

 The virus, named Melissa, greeted huge numbers of workers as
 they signed on to
 their e-mail systems at the start of the work week, spreading
 ``more quickly
 than any other virus in the history of viruses,'' Viveros
said.

 The Federal Bureau of Investigations's National Infrastructure
 Protection
 Center said it was notified of the virus Friday and has
 received reports of
 ``significant network degradation and e-mail outages'' at
major
 corporations
 and Internet service providers.

 The virus uses a high-powered automation technology built into
 most personal
 computers, and a simple, personal touch, to propagate itself.

 Often disguised as a message from a friend or colleague,
 Melissa is a simple
 e-mail sent to unsuspecting users, saying ''Important message
 from'' But
 when users open the message, it can cause a flood of new
 e-mails to be sent
 over the Internet from the reader's own online address book.

 Clicking on the e-mail triggers a powerful ``macro'' --
 automation software
 built into millions of computers using Microsoft's Windows
 operating system --
 that can automatically trigger up to 50 new e-mails.

 In many cases, computer users are warned of the presence of
the
 automated
 messaging, but the virus de-activates the warning system for
 some computers,
 making it harder to detect.

 The virus appeared not to have caused any significant damage
to
 computers,
 although it flooded some e-mail services and exposed a
weakness
 that future
 hackers could exploit more maliciously.

 Indeed, Network Associates said a more damaging virus,
 code-named ``Papa'',
 had already cropped up Monday. It was a more elaborate program
 using a similar
 e-mail delivery of a macro that could disrupt Excel
 spreadsheets.

 The biggest impact, though, appeared to come from a temporary
 shutdown of
 computer systems by cautious computer managers trying to keep
 their systems
 from being overwhelmed. Computer experts said it was also
 possible that other
 confidential documents could be sent inadvertently, though
 Network Associates
 knew of no such cases.

 ``A number of our large customers have had to take their
 servers down and for
 a lot of companies e-mail is the main method of
 communications,'' said Network
 Associates's Viveros. ''Having that down has caused lots of
 havoc.''

 At Pittsburgh's Carnegie Mellon University, the Computer
 Emergency Response
 Team received scores of inquiries.

 ``We are getting a steady stream of phone calls this morning
 from
 organizations who have been affected by the virus,'' Jeff
 Carpenter at CERT
 said Monday.

 CERT estimated the bug affected more than 100,000 machines.
 Carpenter said
 more than 150 companies had complained about Melissa.

 The virus comes in the form of a document that lists
 pornography sites on the
 Internet's World Wide Web of computer networks.

 One office worker in Austin, Texas, Jennifer Mehlow, said she
 got a message
 that appeared to be from a colleague in the company. But when
 she saw the list
 of porn sites, she reported it to her computer system manager.
 By then, the
 macro had been triggered, sending scores of messages over the
 Internet.

 ``I came in this morning and I had 213 nasty e-mails attacking
 me,'' said
 Mehlow, a press relations specialist at Fleishman-Hillard in
 Austin.

 Lucent Technologies Inc. (NYSE:LU - news) the world's largest
 telecommunications equipment maker, Friday received a copy of
 the tainted
 note. It shut its e-mail system for the weekend in 

[CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #1

[ric carter]

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990330a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# BRONZE SKIN - AND ORANGE EYES? A man who took an oral agent to bronze his
skin ended up with a little extra color - cheddar cheese-like deposits on
his retina. His condition is reversible - but it's a useful reminder that if
you swallow things to color your skin, they might have unintended effects
elsewhere. www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=10959

: What color would you like to be? What would you do to change colors? Would
you rather ingest chemicals, get a tan, be genetically modified, be painted?
Are strangely-colored people self-medicated, alien, demons, normal variants?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tethered Transportation In Space: Roping Energy From Earth's Atmosphere.
NASA plans to lasso energy from Earth's atmosphere with a tether in the
first demonstration of a propellant-free space propulsion system, poten-
tially leading to a revolutionary space transportation system. Blast off!
See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990326175035.htm

@ Source: Marshall Space Flight Center: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov/

: Is this free energy better than cold fusion? Will this fuel an interplan-
etary transport system? Will stations and ships be covered with graffiti?
Are all physical transport systems inadequate? Do you prefer astral travel?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Research Links Healthy Biological Clock To Longevity. Hamsters receiving
a new biological clock had increased lifespans, proving the importance of
circadian rhythms to the health and longevity of an organism. Once the
biological clock of a hamster begins to deteriorate, death occurs within 3
months. But when researchers transplanted new 'clock' tissue into hamsters
whose own clocks had begun to deteriorate, they lived an average of 4 months
longer than hamsters without the transplant -- roughly a 20% increase in
their lifespan. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990325111049.htm

@ Source: University Of Toronto: http://www.utoronto.ca/

: Would regular transplants of bio.clock tissues repeatedly reset your body,
providing immortality? Would you rather have a biological Rolex or Swatch or
Timex? Would a badly engineered bio.clock run backwards? What would result?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MAGNET HYPE: JUST BECAUSE THE MEDIA BUYS IT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. Another
medical charlatan who is getting a ton of publicity. This time it's the
magnet weight loss program. What next? A sucker born every minute - see
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=10954

: How many magnets do you have to eat to lose 20 kilos? Would ball bearings
work just as well? Would exposure to intense magnetism induce a sufficient
EMF to fry your eyebrows? Are fried eyebrows a sure sign of magnet abuse?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Understanding Molecular Self-Assembly Opens Door For New Sources Of Wood-
Like Materials. (Blacksburg, VA) Research into how cell walls of wood forms
will someday help wood scientists assemble wood-like composites without
using trees. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990329065657.htm

@ Source: Virginia Tech: http://www.vt.edu:10021/ur/news/newsndex.html

: Will self-growing wood materials provoke an end to deforestation? Can we
grow complete synth.wood structures? Would you buy a seedling house? Where?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Scholar to look at suit-yourself religious views. SALT LAKE CITY (DN) --
"To produce a version of the New Testament to his liking, [Pres. Thomas]
Jefferson 'did it by cutting passages out and pasting them in a book,' in 4
languages simultaneously. The Greek, Latin, French and English versions of
his selected New Testament passages were placed in parallel columns, allow-
ing him to see a depth of meaning that one language version alone didn't
offer." http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,75001112,00.html?

: How many religious structures have you invented? Is growing your own spir-
itual doctrine more fun, easier, simpler, than accepting someone else's? Are
your religious Game Rules complex, humanistic, totalitarian, smelly, schizo?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ISP FILTERS VIRUS. Mon Mar 29 22:59:08 PST 1999 (SONIC.NET) - In response
to the media hype about the Melissa virus, we've put up filtering in place
on our inbound mail server to detect and remove email containing the Melissa
virus.  While we were at it, we added protection for Happy99.exe as well.
We've blocked two live copies of Happy99.exe, but haven't seen nor heard
about any incidents of Melissa.  http://shell.sonic.net:516/

: Has your ISP been flooded with virii? Does your ISP block virii? Was the
Melissa hype overblown? Do you breed computer virii? Does MicroSoft? Where?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ Homeopathy and more: at http://www.quackwatch.com
# THE 

[CTRL] Tim Griffiths and the Dry Quote

[J. Hoffa]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:22:57 +0300,
Tim Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Because you're not reading it properly. *Your* version of the quote
didn't have the '...for a million years...' part, and therefore is
*not* the same as that given by Divine. If you're going to be
picky, then you should read things through carefully.

OK, then. What purpose did Divine serve in pointing out the "correct"
version? In your words, " If she is going to be picky," then she should
have a point behind WHY she is being picky. One good pick
deserves another, I say. Also, I think YOU should read things more
carefully. That was not MY version of the quote, as you write above.
It was Robert Wilensky's version of the quote, which was made plain
in both the initial and reply messages.

As for picking someone up over the use of the word 'mute' rather
than 'moot', if you're going to spend your time doing that then
you'll a) waste it and b) become a bitter twisted man. Did you
not understand what Divine was saying? Did it impede your obvious
reading enjoyment of the post?

I did understand what Divine was TRYING to say, and it did impede
my reading enjoyment. If  Divine is allowed to pick apart an obviously
good-natured, humorous quote offered for the enjoyment of everyone,
why can't I get picky about her response? In fact, that sort of picky,
unsolicited opinion just seems to beg for an obnoxious response.
Divine is an adult engaged in a free-form discussion group and can
probably take care of herself. Who are you, Divine's mother?
As for how I spend my time in becoming bitter and twisted, well, that's
my business. But I am glad you see the sunny side of my personality.
So many people miss it, you know. ;-)

Most significantly, are you suggesting that Shakespeare wrote
in the correct language of the day, didn't invent his own words
and definitions, and didn't generally mess around with the language
to suit his own ends?

Of course he did. That was part of my point. Remember what I wrote
about creative language use? Do you think Divine was trying out a new,
innovative language technique on us? She obviously just screwed up.
Shakespeare had to be linguistically talented to be able to write as he
did. Going beyond the conventions of any art first requires a strong base
in those conventions. This is true for poetry, painting, and literature of any
sort. Picasso had to begin with painting bowls of fruit before moving on to
cubism. Otherwise, the common man's assertion that Picasso's
expressions are no more than a child's finger painting might be seen
as having some validity.

Certainly there's no end of *that* going on on the net...

Yes, but is most of it out of ignorance or artistry? That's the fundamental
question.

I guess you put me in my place !

NOT.

Have a nice day,
HOFFA

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[CTRL] MTBE Gasoline Additive's White Knight May Be A Hungry Bug (?)

[Steve Wingate]

 -Caveat Lector-

(Now they want to release a microorganism into our lakes and
groundwater, so that they can continue to release a suspected carcinogen
to help the poor refineries.  *#@$^! --SW)

Tuesday March 30 3:07 PM ET

MTBE Gasoline Additive's White Knight May Be A Hungry Bug

By Richard Valdmanis

NEW YORK (Reuters) - While the MTBE industry is reeling from news of
California's ban last week of the controversial gasoline additive, there
may be some relief in sight for MTBE producers -- in the form of a hungry
germ.

Researchers, sponsored by proponents of the ailing multibillion-dollar
industry, have discovered a microscopic organism that rapidly eliminates
MTBE pollutants from soil and groundwater, sparking hope that other bans
of the oxygenate may be forestalled.

``Advances like this microbe could protect our water and allow us to
preserve the proven clean air benefits of MTBE,'' said Terry Wigglesworth,
executive director of Oxygenated Fuels Association, a global organization
of refiners. ``The new microbe is another defense against leaking
underground tanks.''

MTBE, or methyl tertiary butyl ether, is a widely used gasoline oxygenate
known to cut vehicle tailpipe emissions. Its use in densely populated
areas soared after the federal Clean Air Act of 1990 went into effect.

The chemical is widely suspected of causing cancer, environmental groups
say.

California's Gov. Gray Davis banned the gasoline additive last Thursday,
saying MTBE's environmental risks outweighed its clean air benefits.
In 1998, Maine opted out of using MTBE in its reformulated gasoline. And
the New Hampshire and Connecticut legislatures took steps toward
a ban -- all driven by concerns over MTBE's ability to contaminate
groundwater and leak from underwater storage tanks.

A particularly potent strain of the organism, called PM1, was isolated
recently by researchers at the University of California-Davis. It can break
down MTBE into water and carbon dioxide within a matter of days,
scientific reports say.

``In the laboratory, it has proven to work great,'' said Kate Skow,
microbiologist at UC Davis, who is leading the research. ``It literally eats
MTBE, and at a high rate.''

Without a white knight, which the MTBE petrochemical industry hopes this
microbe will be, the outlook for MTBE's commercial lifespan is grim,
analysts say.

Rob Harvan, analyst at Bonner  Moore in Houston, called the California
ban ``quite a bombshell for the refining and chemical
industry...because the national trend is to follow the California Air
Resources Board (CARB) standards.''

Nonetheless, MTBE proponents are placing their faith in the microscopic
organisms.

``We're continuing our efforts to develop a naturally occurring organic
consortium to eliminate MTBE in soil,'' a Shell Oil representative said
Tuesday.

Field tests on the UC Davis microbes, sponsored by the Oxygenated Fuels
Association and the U.S. Navy, are slated for this spring in Port
Hueneme, Calif. Tests on a similar strain are under way in central
California, sponsored by Shell Oil, according to Skow of UC Davis. Field
tests will examine the microbe's ability to consume MTBE in different types
of soil.

``The engineering hurdle is not insurmountable,'' Skow said. ''It's difficult to
say what will happen in the field, but we've proven in the lab that this
is a hearty microbe.''


Steve Wingate

California Director
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Re: [CTRL] Tim Griffiths and the Dry Quote

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Well well well , it seems I've unknowingly started a war ...
first of all let me clarify that my use of the word mute instead
of moot was an intentional play on words , please forgive me for
being prone to these as I will forgive you for not finding it
amusing :-) I in no way meant to insult anyone nor was I trying
to be " picky " it was merely a half hearted , light hearted
attempt at pointing out a misquote and defending myself as to
being referred to as a monkey pounding on a keyboard .

If my recollection is correct I do believe that I started my
posting with the fact that I thought it was cute despite its
flaws .

Divine ~


To err is human , to forgive is simply not our policy .


--- "J. Hoffa"  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:22:57 +0300,
 Tim Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Because you're not reading it properly. *Your* version of the
 quote
 didn't have the '...for a million years...' part, and
 therefore is
 *not* the same as that given by Divine. If you're going to be
 picky, then you should read things through carefully.

 OK, then. What purpose did Divine serve in pointing out the
 "correct"
 version? In your words, " If she is going to be picky," then
 she should
 have a point behind WHY she is being picky. One good pick
 deserves another, I say. Also, I think YOU should read things
 more
 carefully. That was not MY version of the quote, as you write
 above.
 It was Robert Wilensky's version of the quote, which was made
 plain
 in both the initial and reply messages.

 As for picking someone up over the use of the word 'mute'
 rather
 than 'moot', if you're going to spend your time doing that
 then
 you'll a) waste it and b) become a bitter twisted man. Did
you
 not understand what Divine was saying? Did it impede your
 obvious
 reading enjoyment of the post?

 I did understand what Divine was TRYING to say, and it did
 impede
 my reading enjoyment. If  Divine is allowed to pick apart an
 obviously
 good-natured, humorous quote offered for the enjoyment of
 everyone,
 why can't I get picky about her response? In fact, that sort
of
 picky,
 unsolicited opinion just seems to beg for an obnoxious
 response.
 Divine is an adult engaged in a free-form discussion group and
 can
 probably take care of herself. Who are you, Divine's mother?
 As for how I spend my time in becoming bitter and twisted,
 well, that's
 my business. But I am glad you see the sunny side of my
 personality.
 So many people miss it, you know. ;-)

 Most significantly, are you suggesting that Shakespeare wrote
 in the correct language of the day, didn't invent his own
 words
 and definitions, and didn't generally mess around with the
 language
 to suit his own ends?

 Of course he did. That was part of my point. Remember what I
 wrote
 about creative language use? Do you think Divine was trying
out
 a new,
 innovative language technique on us? She obviously just
screwed
 up.
 Shakespeare had to be linguistically talented to be able to
 write as he
 did. Going beyond the conventions of any art first requires a
 strong base
 in those conventions. This is true for poetry, painting, and
 literature of any
 sort. Picasso had to begin with painting bowls of fruit before
 moving on to
 cubism. Otherwise, the common man's assertion that Picasso's
 expressions are no more than a child's finger painting might
be
 seen
 as having some validity.

 Certainly there's no end of *that* going on on the net...

 Yes, but is most of it out of ignorance or artistry? That's
the
 fundamental
 question.

 I guess you put me in my place !

 NOT.

 Have a nice day,
 HOFFA

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 ==
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 Proselyzting propagandic
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 sordid matters
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 misdirections and outright
 frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and
 minor effects
 spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
 said, CTRL
 gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
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[CTRL] Fwd: WND - A SOFTWAR SPECIAL - MR. ZHU GOES TO WASHINGTON

[Kris Millegan]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990330_xcsof_the_art_es.shtml

People's Republic of China (PRC) Premier Zhu Rongji and
President Bill Clinton are scheduled to meet in the White House
on April 8, 1999.  There is a reason for the close and warm
welcome extended to the top Prince of the Beijing Princelings by
President Clinton.  Zhu and Clinton have worked closely to help
each other in the past.  Zhu, in his own way, can be considered
a cash contributor to Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign.

Zhu and Clinton are expected to discuss economic issues,
security, and human rights.  Zhu is also scheduled to visit six
American cities, Los Angeles, Washington, Denver, Chicago, New
York and Boston.

According to the White House, "Premier Zhu and Vice President Al
Gore will co-chair the second meeting of the US-China Forum on
Environment and Development."

Zhu is so well known in the White House that this author had to
use a lawsuit in Federal Court to obtain information on the
Chinese leader.  The material on Zhu was provided directly to
Bernard Schwartz by President Clinton in 1994 just prior to the
now infamous August 1994 trade trip to Beijing with Ron Brown.

Zhu, according to his White House bio, "was labeled a rightist"
and spent "20 years in an obscure position in the economic
planning bureaucracy."  Zhu rose from his lowly position to
become the "Governor, People's Bank of China" and eventually the
"Mayor of Shanghai."

Zhu's mix of western capitalist rewards in an eastern communist
framework appealed to "paramount leader Deng Xiaoping".  Thus,
early in 1990, Zhu led a delegation of mayors to the United
States and his ideas began to spread west.

Zhu has also visited Australia, New Zealand, and several
European nations.  Zhu speaks some English, enjoys reading
Chinese literature, watching Peking opera, and playing the
huqin, a two-stringed instrument.  He and his wife have a son
and they enjoy playing tennis.

Besides having a mean back-hand, in 1994, Zhu was also the Communist
inner party backer of General Ding Henggao, commander of COSTIND
(the Chinese Commission of Science Technology and Industry for
National Defense).

In 1994, Schwartz, then the CEO of Loral Aerospace and a million
dollar donor to the DNC, requested to meet with Lt. General Shen
Roujun, Vice Minister of COSTIND, and various other members of
the Communist government.

Schwartz met with COSTIND Vice Minister Shen Roujun.  Vice
Minister Shen (a.k.a. Lt. General Shen) was then working for
the master-mind of Chinese espionage, General Ding Henggao, the
commander of COSTIND.  Schwartz also met with the prime
political backer of COSTIND General Ding inside the all
important Communist Central Committee (CCC), Zhu Rongji.

The PLA obtained various advanced technologies from Schwartz and
his Loral Corporation with the blessing of Ron Brown.  General
Shen, General Ding, and Schwartz all made themselves
rich on western technology, while passing advanced military
technology to the Chinese Army.  Schwartz, of course, passed
some of that money back to Bill Clinton in the form of political
donations.

General Ding and the PLA also passed money directly to Clinton
through various agents such as Johnny Chung and Charlie Trie.
In exchange, the PRC warlords got access to U.S. secrets other
than W88 nuclear bombs.  For example, Lt.  General Shen's son,
Shen Jun, was the lead software engineer for Hughes on all
Chinese satellites.

Loral provided the PLA with radiation hardened encrypted
telemetry control systems such as the missing board of chips
from the 1996 Intelsat crash.  In fact, according to the State
Department, Loral satellite CDMA communications technology was
preferred by the PLA.  According to a 1996 Dept. of State cable
to President Clinton by Beijing Ambassador Sasser, the PLA was
using money from Chinese billionaire Li Ka-Shing to finance
Chinese Army communications systems.

In 1994, Schwartz made the decision to save a few million
dollars by purchasing Chinese rockets to launch his satellites.
The wisdom of Schwartz's purchase is reflected in the
destruction of over $200 million in Loral satellites by a failed
PRC Long March and the death of 200 innocent civilians who got
in the way.  The same crash provided FBI agents with the
Intelsat control box, minus the critical encrypted control
board.

Loral's Schwartz also decided to purchase a low-cost Russian
rocket to put the CDMA Globalstar system into orbit.  Schwartz
had to get Clinton to personally sign a waiver in July of 1996
that Commerce official William Reinsch worked on in 1995, prior
to Commerce oversight of the Loral satellites.

The 1996 Presidential waiver for the Loral export included two
fully operational, encrypted, telemetry control stations to be
built inside China.  Loral even requested the Presidential
waiver be held back and then modified during the FBI
investigation of the missing encryption chips from the Loral
satellites.  The modified waiver 

[CTRL] Fwd: Mexico's Banks Admit Drug Money-Laundering

[Kris Millegan]

"[One Mexican bank]'s attorney argued that stiff penalties for money-
laundering can result in a bank's 'inability to raise money in the
international capital markets -- the ultimate death penalty for a bank.' "'


Source: Mexico Banks Did Launder

By MICHAEL WHITE
.c The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Two of Mexico's biggest banks agreed to plead guilty today
to laundering millions of dollars in drug money in a case that has strained
relations between the United States and its southern neighbor, a source said.

Grupo Financiero Bancomer S.A. and Grupo Financiero Serfin S.A. will each pay
$500,000 in criminal fines. Bancomer also will forfeit about $9.4 million in
money seized by authorities. Serfin will forfeit about $4.2 million in seized
money, according to a source familiar with the case.

Prosecutors planned to drop charges against a third Mexican financial
institution, Banca Confia. Confia, which sold most of its assets to Citibank
after it was indicted, agreed to forfeit $12.1 million seized from its U.S.
holdings.

The money is part of $100 million seized from 14 banks and dozens of
individuals in Operation Casablanca, a three-year investigation of money
laundering activities of Colombia's Cali drug cartel and the Juarez cartel in
Mexico.

Federal prosecutors say tens of millions of dollars in drug profits were
laundered through phony transactions to Mexican-owned banks to conceal their
origin.

The banks had denied wrongdoing, saying any illegal activity was committed by
rogue employees.

Attorneys for Bancomer and Serfin were scheduled to enter pleas this afternoon
in a hearing before U.S. District Judge Lourdes Baird.

The plea agreement, originally reported by the Los Angeles Times and New York
Times, doesn't end the case. Jury selection started Monday for six Mexican
bankers and businessmen charged in the case.

Prosecutors also are working out a civil settlement with Banco Industrial
Venezuela, one of two Venezuelan banks implicated in the case. Similar civil
actions may be filed against other banks where funds were seized, the source
said.

The operation raised tension between the United States and Mexico when agents
arrested 167 people, including top Mexican bankers and executives. Mexico
accused the United States of intruding on Mexican sovereignty by conducting a
sting operation without its involvement.

Bancomer and Serfin, Mexico's second- and third-largest banks, still face
possible hearings before the Federal Reserve Board to decide whether they will
be allowed to continue to operate in the United States.

Banca Serfin's attorney has said the loss of a license could also result in a
bank's ``inability to raise money in the international capital markets which
would be the ultimate death penalty.''

[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Incitement to Arab Violence

[Kris Millegan]

Israeli Convicted in Muslim Plot

By JACK KATZENELL
.c The Associated Press

JERUSALEM (AP) -- A Jewish militant was convicted Tuesday of plotting to hurl
a pig's head into Islam's third holiest site, located in Jerusalem.

Damian Peckovich and an alleged accomplice were arrested in December 1997 and
charged with plotting to catapult the attack on the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

Jerusalem District Court judge Moshe Ravid wrote in his verdict that if the
plot had succeeded, it could have led to war with the Muslim world and perhaps
even to the destruction of Israel.

``It could have undermined the foundations of the state and perhaps its
existence,'' he wrote.

Peckovich was convicted of sedition, arson, desecration of a holy site,
incitement to violence, offending religious feelings and other related
charges. He could face up to 38 years in jail. Sentencing will be carried out
at a later date.

The act was to be carried out during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, when
thousands of worshipers would have been at the compound.

To Muslims, the pig is ritually impure and such an act would undoubtedly have
inflamed the feelings of the worshippers.

Two years ago, clashes between Israelis and Palestinians broke out after an
Israeli woman posted drawings depicting the Muslim prophet Mohammed as a pig.
She was sentenced to two years in jail and her actions brought condemnation
from across the Muslim world.

The verdict on Peckovich's accomplice, Avigdor Eskin, is to be handed down on
April 12.

Peckovich was also convicted of laying a pig's head on the grave of a revered
Muslim cleric and setting fire to the Jerusalem office of Dor Shalom, a peace
group established by Yuval Rabin, son of the murdered Prime Minister Yitzhak
Rabin. The office was damaged but nobody was hurt.

Eskin served four months in jail in 1997 for placing a death curse on the late
premier, two weeks before Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal
Amir in November 1995.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Charles Foster Kane's Apology

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi Colleen ,

I just wanted to clarify a few somethings  first ,
last time I checked I was a girl .. and my name is not
intended to be egotistical at all in fact quite the opposite as
my intention is not in any way to enforce God's will or even to
point out what I believe it to be , it is more based on my desire
to live by the principals which I believe in . I never
intentionally try to force anyone around to my way of thinking
nor do anything which would bring harm to another , I do however
reserve the right to defend myself when attacked .
  I hope you don't mind that I put this response back to the
list as you are not the first to comment on my name . I only
would like to further add that I believe that the majority of us
on this list are on the same side of the bigger and more
important issues and I only hope that  we can continue to put our
differences aside and remain united for that is our only defense
against the tyranny of " them "  .

Divine ~

---
Money makes the world go around. Love just barely keeps it from
blowing up
---


--- Colleen Jones  wrote:
 Must admit you do sound like a it of an egomaniac with that
 name, Father
 Divine.

 Now - this is one piece of literary genius I adore.Charles
 Foster
 Kane's apoloy.

 Be sure to click on the blue stuff, to get the verbal apology.

 Hope you
 can pick up.

 I think you should send a similar message to our friend Hoffa.

  He is
 really a nice guy, and I like himI like him most when he
is
 the
 kinder, gentler Hoffa

 Now I have cooled down = and I am not gonig to let anybody
ruin
 my day.


 Mother Jones
 or how about

 well, good bye.and you know, the last time I heard "Have A
 Nice Day"
 it was a traffic copy who gave my son a ticket, and I had to
 pay for
 same.

 Bye, you all..and have fun.
Repent..Apologize..Say
 your
 sorry; and get down on all fours moslem style; beg for
 mercy.like
 you really mean it, this time.



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[CTRL] NATO Builds Forces for 24-Hour Airstrikes

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-03/30/015r-033099-idx.html
A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
srv/WPcap/1999-03/30/015r-033099-idx.html"NATO Builds Forces for 24-Hour
Airstrikes/A
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NATO Builds Forces for 24-Hour Airstrikes
Russian Prime Minister Announces Mission to Coax Milosevic Back Into
Talks
By Thomas W. Lippman and Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, March 30, 1999; Page A01

The United States and its NATO allies dispatched more airplanes to
reinforce the relentless bombardment of Yugoslavia yesterday as military
commanders concluded the strikes have so far failed to deter what
officials described as a systematic attempt by the Yugoslav military to
subdue or exile the populace of the rebellious province of Kosovo.

Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon announced that the United States is
sending more bombers and electronic warfare aircraft as part of an
alliance-wide buildup. He said five B-1B bombers, five EA-6B Prowlers
and 10 tankers will join the fleet that has been pounding Yugoslavia
since Wednesday. The airstrikes continued last night and will henceforth
be conducted around the clock, according to British officials and NATO
spokesmen.

As reports multiplied of atrocities against Kosovo's civilian population
and tens of thousands of refugees streamed into neighboring countries,
Pentagon officials said they are considering deployment of Apache attack
helicopters in an effort to impede the tanks and troops that are
carrying out the assaults.

Britain also announced reinforcements, saying eight additional Tornado
fighter-bombers are being readied for deployment.

The announcement that more U.S. planes would be sent to support the air
campaign followed a White House meeting between President Clinton and
his senior defense and foreign policy advisers. After that session,
Clinton took advantage of a balmy afternoon to head for the golf links,
where he telephoned two key alliance leaders, British Prime Minister
Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

The additional deployments dramatized an apparent mismatch between
NATO's objectives -- to stop the humanitarian tragedy unfolding in
Kosovo -- and the tactics employed so far to achieve them. In that
light, the NATO supreme commander, Gen. Wesley K. Clark, sought
authorization over the weekend to hit additional targets to intensify
the punishment against President Slobodan Milosevic's government,
including the Defense and Interior ministries in downtown Belgrade where
the army and security police get their instructions.

His request was turned down as premature by NATO's political leadership.
But a senior U.S. official said Clark's request had "100 percent
support" from the Clinton administration, while other members of the
19-nation NATO alliance declined to endorse it.

As the air campaign intensified, so did Russian efforts to halt it.
Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov, who canceled a visit to Washington a
week ago to protest the imminent start of the airstrikes, announced he
will fly to Belgrade today with his foreign, defense and intelligence
chiefs. He is expected to explore the possibility of a cease-fire with
Milosevic, the leader of the Yugoslav federation and of its dominant
republic, Serbia.

Milosevic has shown no signs of yielding to allied demands that he cease
his campaign against Kosovo, the southernmost province in Serbia whose
population is about 90 percent ethnic Albanian, people speaking a
different language and practicing a different religion from the Serbs
who rule the province. On the contrary, Milosevic's military and police
appeared to be waging what a senior U.S. official called a "scorched
earth campaign" to crush the Kosovo separatist challenge once and for
all.

News of the Primakov trip to Belgrade caught the Clinton administration
by surprise and caused some alarm here and in other allied capitals,
senior U.S. officials and NATO diplomats said.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov, who spoke by telephone with
Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright yesterday and Sunday, stoked
the anxiety by telling reporters, "We are going to Belgrade not to save
somebody's face but to stop the aggression, to return to the negotiating
table."

The allied position is that the air campaign will cease only when
Milosevic pulls his security forces back from Kosovo and accepts a peace
plan based on extensive autonomy for the province but under continuing
Serb sovereignty.

Part of the administration's apprehension was based on the fact that
France -- which in the past has aligned itself with Russia in opposition
to Washington on key issues, such as Iraq -- encouraged the Primakov
initiative. French officials, however, said there is no breach between
Paris and the rest of the alliance. They cited a television address
yesterday by President Jacques Chirac, in which he accused Milosevic of
being responsible for "more than 200,000 deaths and millions of
displaced persons" 

[CTRL] NATO Builds Forces for 24-Hour Airstrikes

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/3/30/63301
A HREF="http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/3/30/63301"NewsMax.com:
Articles/A
-
Russia's Anger Makes for War Talk
J.R. NyquistMarch 30, 1999
When US and NATO warplanes struck Yugoslavia last week, President Boris
Yeltsin warned of a global war. But Western leaders have seemingly
scoffed at Yeltsin's statement, and those of other Russian leaders.
By ignoring such peril, Western leaders have taken a casual approach to
Russia that may be intensifying Russia's growing animus toward the West.


To date, no high level meetings between Russian and American officials
have been arranged to address Moscow's concerns. The usual anxiety about
US-Russian relations is almost non-existent. At the State Department,
James Rubin offered the belief that "President Yeltsin, Prime Minister
Primakov and Foreign Minister Ivanov see the value of keeping the
relationship (between the U.S. and Russia) on track, and not letting
someone like Milosevic derail everything that's at stake."

Yet the relationship is not on track.

After the air assault on Yugoslavia began last Wednesday the Russians
froze their relationship with NATO. They pulled Russian ground troops
out of the Bosnia Stabilization Force. They also expelled the NATO
representative in Moscow.

Ominously, they discontinued their cooperation on the Y2K problem -- a
problem that could have catastrophic consequences for Russia unless they
receive Western help.

Then, the Russians canceled a planned visit by Pentagon officials to
discuss the dismantling of Russian nuclear weapons. Worse still,
according to Russian news reports, the Kremlin is contemplating the
deployment of tactical nuclear weapons and bombers to Belarus. Belarus
is Russia's invasion pathway to Europe.

An alarm has been sounded throughout Russia.

When NATO bombs began falling on Russia's ally, Yugoslavia, the banner
headline of Kommersant, a business newspaper, simply said: "The Blow."
Segodnya's ominous headline explained: "It's war. The Americans cannot
convince the Serbs, and Russia cannot convince the Americans." Vremya's
 headline stated: "NATO planes have attacked Yugoslavia as well as
Moscow's international authority."

On Saturday Russian lawmakers, meeting in emergency session, passed a
resolution 366-4 that called the NATO air assault on Yugoslavia "an act
of aggression that is a gross violation of the UN Charter ..." The four
page resolution further stated: "The aggression against Russia's ally
Yugoslavia is seen as a serious threat to Russian security."

Nikolai Zyubov, an independent political analyst, has stated that due to
NATO air attacks on Serbia: "Russians are far more anti-American today
than they have ever been." But more than this, he pointed out that
Russia now feels threatened.

Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the Russian Communist Party declared: "The
Americans have gone down the path of Hitlerism. The use of force has
become the main argument in their policy, and so have blackmail, bombs
and threats."

The liberal Russian newspaper Izvestia called NATO's bombing campaign a
"royal gift" to the Communists in the Russian Duma. "The Party of
retrogrades," said Izvestia, "does not require a new strategy at all, as
the NATO alliance has of its own accord provided proof of the slogans of
anti-American propaganda."

Russian outrage has been apparent at the US Embassy in Moscow. Angry
Russians have pelted the US Embassy with eggs. The protestors are often
heard shouting anti-American slogans. One placard said: "NATO go to
Hell."

On Sunday the protest almost turned violent when an attempt was made to
use a grenade launcher against the Embassy building. Afterward, one of
the Russian protesters snarled: "I hope the Russian government will
understand and take this unique chance to start a war against the
enemies of the Russians and of all Slav people."

A leading Russian analyst, Leonod Radzikhovsky stated that "xenophobia,
envy and hatred of America are deep rooted feelings in Russia." And now
these feelings have been awakened.

Valdimir Zhirinovsky, wearing a military uniform, called for Russian
volunteers to fight NATO. "The Third World War started on March 24," he
said.

Thousands of young Russians have answered Zhirinovsky's call. Colonel
General Viktor Chechevatov, commander of Russia's Far East Military
District, has offered to lead a combined Russian force of "volunteers
and regulars" into Yugoslavia.

The Russian foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, spoke of the unity of the
entire Russian nation in the face of America's bid for "global
domination."

He called it the worst crisis since the Second World War. The usually
polite Ivanov further accused NATO of "blatant genocide," saying that
NATO bombs have killed approximately one thousand Serbs. Ivanov has also
called for the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the
bombing. "We have extreme measures in reserve," warned Ivanov.

"The NATO aggression 

[CTRL] Slick's letter to Colonel Holmes

[Don Allen]

Lest we forget

As some members of the
military are being punished for adultery and lying about sex and others
are prevented from speaking out against the Draft Dodger in Chief, let us
pause and reflect on the words our president wrote 29 years ago that
express his views on the meaning of Duty, Honor, and Country.

University College
Oxford, England
December 3, 1969

Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear
from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had
to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my
return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and
ought to say.

First, I
want to thank you, not just for saving me from the
draft, but for being so
kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been.
One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable
to me was my kind regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that
the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more
about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might
have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.

Let me try
to explain. As you know,
I worked for two years in a very, minor position on the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary but also
for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I
opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I have reserved solely for
racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but
studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more
information about Vietnam at hand than I did.

I have
written and spoken and marched against the
war.One of the national
organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine. After I
left Arkansas last summer I went to Washington to work in the national
headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans
here for demonstrations Oct. 15 and Nov. 16.

Interlocked
with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider
separately until early
1968. For a law seminar
in Georgetown, I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against
allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of
selective conscientious objection for those opposed to participation in a
particular war, not simply to participation in war in any
form. From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself
is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary
democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and
die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a
war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and
freedom of the nation. The draft was justified in World War II because
the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to
fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen
and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea, an example
where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft
was not, for the reason stated above.

Because of
my opposition to the draft and the warI am in great sympathy for those
who are not willing to
fight, kill and maybe die
for their country (i.e., the particular policy of a particular
government) right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious
objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his
Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything
else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister
who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again;
He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him
more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an
obscenity.

The
decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were
the most difficult of my
life. I decided to accept
the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political
viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself
for a political life characterized by both practical political ability
and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel
compelled to lead. I do not think our system of government is by
definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in
recent years. (The society may be corrupt, but that is not the same
thing, and if that is true we are all finished anyway.)

When the
draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time
facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting
against, and that is why
I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but
not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my
education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to
join ROTC. I am back here and would have been at 

[CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #2

[ric carter]

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990330b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

*** Lava threatens Cameroon rain forest. YAOUNDE, Cameroon (AP) - A plodding
river of lava seared rain forests and threatened small farms in western Cam-
eroon and new tremors forced hundreds to evacuate. Many villagers who fled
their homes when Mount Cameroon erupted near the Atlantic coast have retur-
ned, but lava will continue to flow into the coastal rain forest for days or
weeks. The 13,400-foot volcano, also known as Mount Faka or "Chariot of the
Gods," began erupting over the weekend in this West African nation. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558995127-b48

: Can you evolve to live in volcanic environments? Would you need help from
ETs to do so? Is Mt. Cameroon a desirable eco-tourism destination now? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MELISSA SPAWNED BY SPAM. Frankenvirus is accidentally created when a spam
emailer is crossed with a new computer virus. But that's not the scariest
part. http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/story/18827.html

# MELISSA, SPAWNED BY SPAM. Melissa trackers are nearing the source. They
suspect a mix of spam-gone-bad and evil intent from a famed virus author.
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/18819.html

*** 'Melissa' clogs e-mail systems - written by "VicodinES" - see
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558996748-a60

: As virii continue to evolve, will only the fittest systems survive? Does
Windows deserve extinction? Would the ideal computer virus infect the user's
mind as well as the computer? Is such a virus called, 'belief', 'faith'?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

*** New forms of China medicines sought. BEIJING (AP) - Chinese doctors for
centuries have prescribed herbal mixes to be boiled up at home to help cure
or prevent illnesses, a time-tested but time-consuming method. But in the
modern Chinese world of long work days, fast food and widely available West-
ern-style drugs, herbal companies are scrambling to find new forms for trad-
itional medicines that are more convenient. The traditional method of brew-
ing herbal cures takes time and smells terrible. "Kids won't touch it" -
see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558991912-2ed

: Will development and production of Chinese medicinals be dominated by
Western pharmaceutical giants? Is this a form of global homogenization?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# KNOW YOUR (CUSTOMER) RIGHTS. The defeat of far-reaching bank monitoring
regulations won't protect individual accounts from surveillance. Privacy
advocates of all political stripes mount protests online. Know your banker
too - http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/story/18828.html

# BOOSTING BIOMETRIC PRIVACY. An industry association releases a set of
biometric guidelines designed to protect the privacy of retina scans,
voice prints, and other personal data. Critics see holes.
http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/story/18829.html

# GETTING TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE KNOW. Keeping an inventory of nuts and bolts
is a cinch. But it's not so easy to track the knowledge in people's heads.
That's where Niku comes in. Peering into your head for fun and profit - see
www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/18798.html

: How much in the way of privacy/rights/security can you rationally expect
in the new world of universal surveillance and globalized data-sharing? Huh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

*** Alabama sex toy ban is overturned. MONTGOMERY (AP) - A state law banning
the sale of vibrators and other sexual aids was dumped by a federal judge
because it bears no "rational relation to a legitimate state interest." U.S.
District Judge Lynwood Smith ruled that the state's 1998 law is "overly
broad" and said people who used the devices would be "denied therapy for,
among other things, sexual dysfunction." 6 women, who either sell sex toys
or say the devices are necessary for sexual gratification they cannot get
otherwise, challenged a part of the law that banned the devices. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558992984-e5d

$ Clinton, Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, Kathleen Willey Dolls Still
Available. Yup, I still have several of these hand-painted Russian nesting
dolls available. Readers claim they're the ultimate souvenir of this most
memorable of presidential administrations.  If you too want a "piece" of
history, send a check for $65 (which includes the postage and packaging"
to Mad Dog Mildon at 9337-B Katy Freeway #262, Houston, TX 77024
* Mad Dog Mildon © 1999: http://maddog.buster.com

: Are nesting Clinton dolls "sex toys"? Is an artificial banana? Is an alien
implant? Are you? Is sex too complex to be legislated, programmed, ignored?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

[CTRL] [6] Mellon's Millions

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Mellon's Millions
Harvey O'Conner©1933
Blue Ribbon Books
New York, N.Y.
--[6]--
6

Spindletop's Golden Flood of Oil

THE lucky strike of a Yugoslav prospector brought to the Mellon treasure chest
its prize jewel, $743,000,000 Gulf on.

In the dreary, rainy winter of 1900, the prospector, member of the same race
of "hunkies" that toiled 12-hour shifts in the Mellon steel and aluminum
mills, was drilling with dogged persistence into a "salt dome" on the Texas
gulf plain. October 27, 1899, was the first date in his Spindletop log; since
then his drills had been pounding through the earth's crust and bringing
upsalt water, quicksand, hard rock, everything but the off-bearing sands that
presage oil itself. The story of that dismal winter could have been duplicated
by any one of a thousand wildcatters drilling on a shoestring for liquid gold
at the end of a rainbow of hope.

Anthony F. Luchich, born on the island of Hvar off the Dalmatian coast,
educated at Trieste and Graz in mining engineering, came to America literally
to seek the gold which lured, more figuratively, hundreds of thousands of his
compatriots. Prospecting for gold brought small fortunes, and losses that ate
them up. In 1899 be was mining prosaic salt and still dreaming of a lucky
strike, when he noticed in an advertisement that the Gladys City Oil, Gas 
Manufacturing Company's property near Beaumont, Texas, was for sale. The
Yugoslav, now known as Lucas, wrote to Patillo Higgins, leather-necked veteran
whose faith in Gladys City, out there in the long grass, was not matched by
money. Higgins accepted a deposit on his $33,500 price and Gladys City, a
shack or two, a weather-beaten rig crumbling to rot, a grass, grown road,
passed to Lucas.

Into the windblown shack Mrs. Lucas moved their worldly possessions; as the
winter wore on the furniture disappeared stick by stick, in exchange for ready
cash. Well versed in the life of a prospector's wife, she hammered together
boxes. The monotonous pounding of the drill went on.

Sands at the 575-foot level encouraged Lucas and Dr. William B. Phillips,
Texas geological survey director. There was oil in that dome, but he would
have to go deeper, buy more pipe, more drills. "Why not write to Guffey 
Galey, the Pittsburgh oil men?" suggested Dr. Phillips.

Lucas' letter reached John H. Galey at a propitious time. Western Pennsylvania
oil was a humdrum business now. The glamour of pioneer days, of big strikes in
new fields, of feats of courage and cunning in getting the precious liquid to
market, had long since departed under a stabilization imposed by Standard Oil.
Galey yearned for new fields to conquer.

The Pittsburgher took over majority interest in the Lucas hole. The terms were
another bitter disappointment to Lucas, but what else could a penniless
wildcatter do? To abandon a deep hole was sheer nonsense; continue it must.

His faith was rewarded on January 9, 1901, the biggest day in petroleum
history since Edwin Drake made his strike in 1859 on Oil Creek in western
Pennsylvania. Lucas heard the premonitory rumble of the earth and fled for his
life. With a deafening roar a great torrent of oil and mud rushed up through
the weakened rock, pushing ahead Of it 700 feet Of 4-inch pipe which hurtled
through the derrick, wrecking it to splinters. The Lucas gusher spewed its
black gold to a crest 200 feet above the dome.

Nothing like it had ever been known in all oildom. The great geyser was
shooting nearly 100,000 barrels a day at the sky. Colonel Drake had astonished
the world in 1859 with a 20-barrel well. Day and night the Lucas gusher
roared, shaking the countryside with the bellow of tons of oil shot up through
the 4-inch hole by the pressure of millions of cubic feet of gas which for
eons had been safely capped by the earth's folds.

Cries for help went out to Beaumont. Within 24 hours, hundreds of men and
forty four-horse teams were working like mad throwing up levees to ring the
flow. Wondering crowds streamed out of Beaumont to see the world's newest
wonder. Drivers fortunate enough to own or rent a carriage charged Klondike
prices.

Overnight the word "Spindletop" became known the world around wherever oil men
met.

While Lucas and Galey wrestled with the problem of capping the monster, a new
threat appeared. A match tossed carelessly by one of the thousands who paced
around the reservoir of oil, a little flame creeping through the brush, might
unite with hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil!

Fifty guards were hired by day, forty by night, to keep the curious at a
respectful distance. Signs were flung up on posts. It was futile. On the
fourth day, with a brisk wind blowing out of the north, the inevitable
happened. The flames licked along the edges of the pool, gathered courage,
leaped over the dike. In a half hour the Lucas gusher was a mass of fire that
shot hundreds of feet into the air. In a mad panic the thousands rushed to
waiting buggies and the 

[CTRL] [1] Merchants of Grain

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
Merchants of Grain
Dan Morgan©1979,1980
Penguin Books
ISBN 01400.5502 9
--[1]--
1

Glenas, Inc., of Panama

"Grain is the currency of currencies."
-LENIN

It was late June 1975, and Parisians strolled a little more casually than
usual past the bakeries, boutiques, and tiny art galleries on the Opera
district's rue Vignon. Thoughts had begun to drift from work to vacations at
the beach and in the countryside. But on the fourth floor of Number 28, rue
Vignon, the shipping broker jean Lerbret and his associates were as busy and
preoccupied as if it were still the middle of winter. The graying, crew-cut
Lerbret intently dialed telephone numbers in Denmark and Norway. There was
something about the bustle in the office-the hum and chatter from the bank of
telex machines, perhaps-that hinted at a big business deal in the offing.

Lerbret reached a shipowner in Copenhagen. After a few pleasantries he came to
the point. Some clients of his were interested in chartering freighters. He
regretted that these clients had requested absolute confidentiality and could
not be identified. However, Lebret was prepared to put the good name and
reputation of his half-century old family firm behind these particular
individuals. They had deposited impressive financial guarantees at leading
Swiss banks. Their credentials were impeccable.

The shipowner in Copenhagen was interested. Business was in a slump, and the
Russian merchant fleet had once again been grabbing contracts away from
Western shipping companies by offering to haul freight at discounts. Could M.
Lerbret please give at least the company name of his clients?

"Glenas, Incorporated, of Panama," was Lerbret's laconic reply.

As Lerbret. made these calls, his associates directed a flow of telex messages
around the world. The messages announced that Glenas wished to hire medium-
sized vessels for one to three years to carry dry, bulky cargoes to
unspecified destinations. If possible, these vessels should be "Lakes
fitted"—narrow enough to squeeze through the St. Lawrence Seaway into the
Great Lakes and equipped with special gear to stabilize them in the locks.
There was nothing unusual about this message tapped out from the obscure
office in the rue Vignon. It was one of hundreds that arrived that day at the
trading centers of New York City, Geneva, and Rotterdam and at the Baltic
Mercantile and Shipping Exchange in London's St Mary Axe.

The Baltic Exchange, 231 years old in 1975, is a picturesque relic of imperial
Britannic commerce. It has the look of an English gentleman's club that has
been accidentally situated in a cathedral. Its soaring marble pillars support
a high, domed roof. Uniformed doormen in gold-braided caps nod ceremoniously
at the people who come and go. Groups of men huddle in conversation, while
others walk arm in arm or doze in the adjoining library. The Baltic is a grand
bazaar-the central brokerage for the world's fleet of tramp steamers-vessels
that ply the oceans without any fixed routes. Representatives of charterers
and shipowners meet on the floor of the Baltic Exchange to confirm deals
involving tens of millions of dollars with no more than a handshake. On any
given day at the Baltic, a Greek ship may find a cargo of French flour to
carry to Egypt; an international copper company may locate a ship to haul its
ore from Zaire to Philadelphia; an old tramp steamer out of Hong Kong may be
consigned to a Japanese scrapyard; or a 50,000-ton tanker may be leased for
twenty years. The Baltic is also a marketplace of information, one of the
strategic listening posts in world trade. Economic recessions and recoveries
are often first detected in the slackening or quickening of chartering
activity there.

None of the dozens of cargoes handled by the brokers of the Baltic Exchange is
more unpredictable than grain. A harvest failure in one country can presage a
big grain deal-and big business for the tramp fleet. And in June 1975 some of
the brokers read in the Glenas cable a clue to just such a development.
"Lakes-fitted" vessels often are on their way to the wheat ports of Duluth,
Minnesota, and Thunder Bay, Ontario, in the center of the North American wheat
belt. But this was only guesswork. Only jean Lerbret and a few of his
associates knew for certain what the cargo and destination of the ships sought
by Glenas was—and they were not talking.

There has always been a grain trade, ever since men began to eat bread.* The
early civilizations of Greece and Rome imported wheat from their colonies, and
Socrates himself recognized that "no man qualifies as a statesman who is
entirely ignorant of the problems of wheat." From the fourteenth century on,
Mediterranean merchants (well paid by the grand dukes of the coastal city
states) -organized relief shipments of wheat from northern Europe in times of
famine. And in the eighteenth century, merchants gathered in the coffee houses
of London to trade information about the 

[CTRL] Divine -1 / HOFFA - 0

[J. Hoffa]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated  Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:25:35 -0800,
Divinewill [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Well well well , it seems I've unknowingly started a war ...
first of all let me clarify that my use of the word mute instead
of moot was an intentional play on words , please forgive me for
being prone to these as I will forgive you for not finding it
amusing :-) I in no way meant to insult anyone nor was I trying
to be " picky " it was merely a half hearted , light hearted
attempt at pointing out a misquote and defending myself as to
being referred to as a monkey pounding on a keyboard .

If my recollection is correct I do believe that I started my
posting with the fact that I thought it was cute despite its
flaws .

Divine ~

It appears you are very much the Anti-HOFFA: kind, forgiving,
congenial, etc.  Your pleasant reply has left me defenseless. I can
deal with gall, but sweetness is my Achilles' heel.

An apology and a plea for mutual forgiveness? Why not just drop
a bomb on me? The effect is the same; I have been killed with
kindness!

HOFFA

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[CTRL] [0] Merchants of Grain

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
Merchants of Grain
Dan Morgan©1979,1980
Penguin Books
ISBN 01400.5502 9
--[0]--

It was the Wheat, the Wheat! It was on the move again.
From the farms of Illinois and Iowa, from the ranches of
Kansas and Nebraska, from all the reaches of the Middle
West, the Wheat, like a tidal wave, was rising, rising.
Almighty, blood-brother to the earthquake, coeval with
the volcano and the whirlwind, that gigantic world force,
that colossal billow, Nourisher of the Nations, was swelling
and advancing.

-FRANK Norris, The Pit

Introduction

It is difficult to understand how the international grain companies could have
slipped through history as inconspicuously as they have. Grain is the only
resource in the world that is even more central to modem civilization than
oil. It goes without saying that grain is essential to human lives and health.
But as much as oil, grain has its politics, its history, its effect on foreign
affairs. After World War II, dozens of countries that had once fed themselves
began to depend on a distant source-the United States-for a substantial part
of their food supply. As America became the center of the planetary food
system, trade routes were transformed, new economic relationships took shape,
and grain became one of the foundations of the postwar American Empire. Food
prices, diets, the dollar, politics, anti diplomacy all were affected.

At the center of these changes are the five companies that are the subject of
this book: Cargill, Continental, Louis Dreyfus, Bunge, and Andre. The stories
of their growth and of America's emergence as a grain power are interwoven.
Yet the companies remain shadowy and unknown, and it has taken the
transformation of the global economy in the 1970s to make them of public
interest. The grain companies were involved in the well-publicized and
controversial sales of American grain to the Soviet Union in 1972. But it was
really only a year later, with the quadrupling of oil prices, that public
awareness of the critical importance of basic resources deepened.

This book is intended to contribute to a better understanding of the world
that was so suddenly and painfully revealed to us in 1972 and 1973—a world in
which nations all depend on each other for basic needs, and a few giant
international companies and banks allocate and distribute the essential raw
materials and the capital required to produce them. As much as possible, I
have tried to illuminate the basic economics with anecdote and with
descriptions of the personalities involved. And indeed, from the oligopoly of
seven families that control the grain companies to the traders hawking grain
futures -in the Chicago "pit," the grain business is rich in mystery, color,
and folklore. But it is no more possible to write about the people of Cargill,
say, apart from the political and economic context in which the company
operates, than it would be to write about Exxon without mentioning OPEC and
U.S. policy in the Middle East.

My own introduction to the grain companies came in the summer of 1972 when I
suddenly experienced every reporter's nightmare: I found myself in the middle
of a big story, and I had no source. The Washington Post had assigned me to a
brief stint in Moscow, and I arrived in the Soviet capital at about the time
when rumors began circulating in the United States that some companies had
sold the Russians $1 billion worth of grain. How to confirm the story? What
were these companies? Where were they? We had no idea. As usual, the Russians
were not talking. And the American government was not much help either. The
U.S. Embassy seemed as ignorant as the foreign correspondents. Political and
economic journalists back home were as bewildered as we were in Moscow. Only
one thing was clear: The grain companies were no mere paper-shuffling
middlemen, jotting down orders with stubby pencils. The Russian government,
second most powerful in the world, was negotiating with them, and the most
powerful government apparently did not know what they were up to. The
companies had authority, aura, mystery. it was weeks before a full account of
what came to be known as "the great grain robbery" was available.

This was my first experience with the traditional and wellprotected secrecy of
the grain companies. Later, when I let my curiosity lead me into the research
for this book, I had no illusions that obtaining information would be easy. As
it was, the task was much more complicated than I had anticipated.

In the first place, I had assumed that a considerable amount of my background
work would already have been done for me by trained historians. I guessed that
I would find, on library shelves, many scholarly works tracing the political
and economic history of grain, charting the trade routes, and, perhaps,
sketching the profiles of the great traders. The business had, after all, been
around for centuries. Instead, I soon found myself fashioning my own
historical narrative out 

Re: [CTRL] Divine and the Dry Quote

[Divinewill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Ah hah ! so this is the posting that sparked up all the fuss .

My my Hoffa aren't we odiously facetious . Careful there big
fella
don't blow a gasket on my account . I can assure you an imbecile
like me isn't worth it .

Divine ~

I is a collage gradient 


divinewill [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Though this is quite cute , I do believe the original quote
 was " a million monkeys at a million
 keyboards for a million years could produce the Complete
Works
 of Shakespeare " , none the less I
 guess it's a mute point since Shakespeare has already been
 produced ..  and is on the web
 .
 
 Divine~


 Hello? Hello? Is there any intelligent life out there?

 My original message consisted of the following quote:

  "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards
 could
  produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the
  Internet, we know this is not true."

   --Robert Wilensky

 First of all, the quote begins "We've heard that..."   Then it
 continues by
 giving the entire original quote (which you repeat in your
 reply). Why
 do you have to point out the original quote to us again as if
I
 somehow
 made a mistake and quoted it wrong? Hello? Hello? It was an
 obvious, humorous play on the old, familiar, original quote.

 This is the first example which proves my point. Monkeys (or
 the
 majority of the frantic masses on A.O.L., if you prefer the
 simpler,
 literal translation) don't write Shakespeare (a figurative
 reference to all
 great literature and art of the past, present, and future;
this
 doesn't just
 refer to Shakespeare's plays, which may or may not be on the
 internet;
 Hello?). Here's the proof of my point just in case you
couldn't
 glean it
 from what I've written so far: If someone cannot understand
 such a
 simple literary convention as parody without trying to impose
a
 very
 mundane, banal, overly-simplistic  interpretation upon it, how
 can they
 write anything akin to the  true artistry, quality, and
 true-to-life spirit of
 the classics? In other, more figurative,  words, monkeys don't
 write
 Shakespeare. Hello?

 The second example proving my point is contained in a line of
 your
 reply:

 guess it's a mute point since Shakespeare has already been
 produced...

 Shakespeare may have already been produced, but if  you want
to
 produce anything comparable, it seems you may need a good
 proof-reader. I can excuse incorrect spellings; after all, we
 all make careless
 mistakes. However, one should not try to use words with which
 they are
 unfamiliar. Anyone out there remember Norm Crosby? The word
 MUTE is
 most  often defined as: the inability or lack of desire to
 speak. The word I
 think you meant to use was MOOT, most often defined as:  open
 for discussion
 or debate, as in a moot point. The old spell checker wouldn't
 catch that one.
 It required the gray matter grammatic/syntactic checker. An
 acute awareness
 of word use, conventions, multiple meanings both literal and
 figurative, and
 placement within the context of a sentence and/or paragraph in
 order to
 construct the desired meaning plays a significant role in the
 production of great literature. Alternate meanings, puns,
 allusions, etc. all add depth to writing,
 allowing a reader to skim as shallowly or plunge as deeply as
 they may desire.
 Once again, we see the point of Mr. Wilensky's quote proven:
if
 you try to dive in
 to a lot of what you read on the internet, you're bound to hit
 your head on a rocky, shallow bottom sooner or later (this,
 however, is not typical of most of the fine
 writings found at CTRL).
 And now, I will be MUTE on the suject.


 The No Longer Kind, Gentle
 HOFFA

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[CTRL] [20] America's Secret Establishment

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
America's Secret Establishment
An introduction to The Order of Skull  Bones
by ANTONY C. SUTTON
Liberty House Press
2027 Iris
Billings, Montana 59102
1986
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Highly reccomended. There is more in this book than can be presented here.
Many charts and reproductions of orginal source material. As always, Caveat
Lector.

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   Memorandum Number Two:
 Operational Vehicles For Conflict Creation

 I. A UNIVERSAL MIND SET

  Our first task is to break an almost universally held mind set, i.e. that
communists and elitist capitalists are bitter enemies. This Marxist axiom
is a false statement and for a century has fooled academics and in-
vestigators alike.

  To illustrate this mind set, let's look at a report on revolutionaries in
the U.S. compiled by the respected Scot]and Yard (London) in 1919.
London police investigators were then tracking the Bolshevik Revolu-
tion and attempting to identify its Western supporters. When it came to
men with long beards and even longer overcoats, most police depart-
ments had no problem - they looked like revolutionaries, therefore,
they must be revolutionaries. But when it came to respectable black-
suited bankers, Scotland Yard was unable to rise above its mind set and
recognize that bankers might equally be revolutionaries. Witness this ex-
tract from a Scotland Yard Intelligence Report.[1][1] A copy is in U S State
Department Decimal File. Microcopy 316, Roll 22. Frame 656.

  "Martens is very much in the limelight. There appears to be no doubt
about his connection with the Guarantee (sic) Trust Company.
Although it is surprising that so large and influential an enterprise should
have dealings with a Bolshevik concern."

 Scotland Yard had picked up an accurate report that the Soviets were
deeply involved with Guaranty Trust of New York, but they couldn't
believe it, and dropped this line of investigation.

 Even today the FBI has a similar mind set. For example, David
Rockefeller has met regularly with a KGB agent in the United States -
weekly lunch meetings is a close description. Yet the FBI presumably
can't bring itself to investigate David Rockefeller as a potential Soviet
agent, but if Joe Smith of Hoboken, N.J. was lunching weekly with the
KGB, you can be sure the FBI would be on his tail. And, of course, our
domestic U.S. Marxists find it absolutely inconceivable that a capitalist
would support communism.

 Organizations like Scotland Yard and the FBI, and almost all
academics on whom investigators rely for their guidelines, have a highly
important failing: they look at known verifiable historical facts with a mind
set. They convince themselves that they have the explanation of a
problem even before the problem presents itself.

 The key to modern history is in these facts: that elitists have close
working relations with both Marxists and Nazis. The only ques-
tions are who and why? The common reaction is to reject these facts.

On the other hand, national security alone demands that we face these
unwelcome relations before any more damage is done to our way of
life.

 In this memorandum we will present the concept that world history,
certainly since about 1917, reflects deliberately created conflict with the
objective of bringing about a synthesis, a New World Order.

 The operation actually began before 1917. In later volumes we will
explore the Spanish-American War and the Anglo-Boer War of 1899.

The first was created by The Order, i.e., the U.S. elite, and the second
by "The Group," i.e., the British elite (with some U.S. assistance). We
might aptly term these the First and Second Hegelian Wars, but this is
another story. In this volume we are limited to the rise of Hitler in Ger-
many and the rise of the Marxist state in the Soviet Union. The clash
between these two powers or the political systems they represent was a
major source of World War II.

 After World War II the world stage was changed. After 1945 it
became the Soviet Union on one side versus the United States on the
other. The first dialectical clash led to the formation of the United Na-
tions, an elementary step on the road to world government. The second
dialectical clash led to the Trilateral Commission, i.e., regional group-
ings and more subtly to efforts for a merger of the United States and the
Soviet Union.

 In Introduction To The Order we established the existence of a secret
society, The Order. We are now going to demonstrate how The Order
created and developed two Global arms needed for Hegelian conflict.
Since 1917 the operational vehicles for this global battle have been:

(a) Guaranty Trust Company of New York, the same firm cited in
the 1919 Scotland Yard report, and

(b) Brown Brothers, Harriman, private bankers of New York.

  Before 1933 Brown Brothers, Harriman consisted of two firms: W. 

[CTRL] Fwd: Russia/Iraq/Yugoslavia

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March 31, 1999

Russia Helping Iraq Upgrade Air Defenses

Summary:

Intelligence officials now admit that Serb and Iraqi defense
officials have met and collaborated in recent months on anti-
aircraft operations.  Russia is now supplying sophisticated radar
systems to Iraq.  The possibility of a second front is
increasing.

Analysis:

One of the critical issues in the Kosovo war is the intention and
capabilities of Iraq.  It must be remembered that many of the
same nations that are currently engaged in the Kosovo air
campaign are also, simultaneously, engaged in an air war in Iraq.
As NATO intensifies the air war over Kosovo, the possibility of
an intensification of the air war over Iraq poses an important
strategic challenge by diverting aircraft and logistical support.

Recent reports emerging in the press tend to confirm Stratfor's
long-standing view that Yugoslavia and Iraq collaborated in the
run-up to the current conflict.  According to the Associated
Press, for example, U.S. intelligence now has evidence that
Yugoslav technicians met with Iraqi specialists in Baghdad in
February to help prepare Yugoslavia for an air war.  Since both
sides have similar equipment and are facing similar aircraft, the
Yugoslav military quite rationally wanted to learn whatever
lessons the Iraqis had to teach them.

It is obviously in the interest of both countries to cooperate
strategically as well as technically.  Anything that forces the
United States to divide its scarce air campaign resources
benefits both.  Thus, a report from the IBC from Baghdad,
claiming that Iraq is distributing advanced radar guidance
systems for the SAM-6 surface-to-air missile system, is
particularly significant.  According to the report, Iraq is
intensely engaged in upgrading its anti-air missile grid.  Abed
Hameed Hmoud, special secretary to Saddam and a member of the
Presidential Council, is said to be personally supervising the
installations of the systems at the Presidential Palaces, air
bases and other critical installations.  The article further
states that both the Northern and Southern Corps of the
Republican Guards are receiving new computing equipment and
small, advanced Russian-made radar units as well as technicians.

If these reports are true, and we think that to be likely, the
Russians are now engaged in a dramatic re-supply of equipment to
the Iraqis.  There have been numerous reports from sources in
Russia about such a re-supply, and the IBC report is merely
confirming the arrival and deployment of this equipment.  The
upgrading of the Iraqi air defense grid has the potential of
posing serious problems for allied pilots on missions in Iraq,
particularly if new systems have been distributed inside the no-
fly zones where routine air patrols are carried out.  We note,
however, that we can find no evidence of any U.S. or allied air
strikes in Iraq at this time.  This indicates that both sides are
lying low for the moment.

The new systems increase the ability of the Iraqis to engage U.S.
and allied pilots on missions in this area.  The standard U.S.
response to such an engagement is first to target the radar and
missile sites.  By substantially increasing the number of such
sites, Iraq is able to dictate a quickened tempo of allied air
operations.  Even if they lose some of their equipment, if the
Russians have provided equipment in sufficient numbers to provide
redundancy, Iraq will be able to dictate the level of allied
operations.  At a time when U.S. logistical capabilities required
to support air operations will be heavily tilted toward Serbia,
increased air operations over Iraq might pose a serious burden.
If, on one hand, the U.S. declines to increase its air
operations, it opens a window of opportunity for Saddam.  If, on
the other hand, the U.S. does increase air operations in Iraq, it
could, over the long haul, degrade its logistical capabilities.

Two front wars are the traditional fear of any power.  There is
no question but that the U.S. can handle one intense and one low-
grade air war.  There is some question whether the U.S. has the
supplies and transport systems needed to sustain two simultaneous
high-intensity air campaigns.  There is no doubt but that Saddam
and Milosevic understand that they may have an opportunity to
pose serious problems for the United States.  Milosevic, of
course, has done his part.  Now the question is whether Saddam
will up the ante.

It is not certain that there is any clear comprehensive
warfighting agreement between Yugoslavia and Iraq, nor that if
there were, the Iraqis would honor it.  But there is a real
window of opportunity available to Iraq and some indication that
it is preparing to exploit it, with 

[CTRL] Fwd: Re(2): [EWAR] MELISSA computer virus: Serb origin?

[Kris Millegan]

  the Texas Instruments McKinney plant's defense group that the virus
attacked them and the U.S. Navy Friday.

The U.S. is at war;  of COURSE they were attacked. That's what war is all
about.

And this is only the beginning.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] Hitler's Last Weapon

[Kris Millegan]

-- Forwarded --

Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:03:49 -0800
From: Jack Sarfatti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Hitler's Last Weapon" now in Real Audio
:
:

PRESS RELEASE

 PSI WARS!


http://www.qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html

Hitler's Last Weapon

Written by Jack Sarfatti

  in 1977 in about one hour's time
in "Jacob Atabet's" *
apartment
at 2 Whiting Street on
Telegraph Hill
  in San Francisco.

Audio by Steven Hill.

Narration by Eric Bauersfeld

This Pacifica Radio  popular cult classic professionally produced radio
play about quantum physics and psychotronic warfare is now on the WEB at
http://www.qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html

It is especially timely now in view of what is happening in Kosovo.

* Michael Murphy's "The End To Ordinary History"

http://www.hia.com/pcr/sioo.html
http://www.hia.com/pcr/psiwars.html

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Re(2): [EWAR] MELISSA computer virus: Serb origin?

[AOL User]

 -Caveat Lector-

So terrorism has a new face for the milennium.  No more bombs or bullets?

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[CTRL] The New World Order

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.myfreeoffice.com/pef/B3C6.html
A HREF="http://www.myfreeoffice.com/pef/B3C6.html"The New World Order/A
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Chapter VI
The New World Order




photo copyright 1997 Art Wolfe

"The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of
the world. But how is... legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply.
See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives
it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits
one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself
cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without
delay ... If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread,
multiply and develop into a system."
Frederic Bastiat, French author of The Law (1848)


Martin Neimoller, who reflected upon Germany’s fall to the Nazis:
"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t
speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came
for Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then
they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
If you are like most Americans, you didn’t bother to notice that when
statists came for the owners of "public buildings," violating the
property rights of these owners, that, in principle, your rights were
undermined, undermining what you may do in your own home. You didn’t
speak out because you are not an owner of one of these "public
buildings."

When statists came for the owners of tobacco companies, infringing on
their right of ownership and restricting their freedom of speech, you
didn’t speak out because you are not one of the owners of a tobacco
company or you are not a smoker or you consider smoking to be an evil
which must be wiped out at all costs, even at the cost of your freedom,
your freedom to follow your own judgment.

When they persecuted and imprisoned innocent individuals for "abuse,"
you didn’t speak out because you were not the one being persecuted. When
they imprisoned those individuals for disturbing the "wetlands," you
said nothing because you thought it would never affect you, oblivious to
the fact that your backyard is a "wetland."

When they searched, without warrant, the private property of business
owners, you said nothing because these were only business owners and you
are not a business owner. When they seized property without due process,
you said nothing because it wasn’t your property being seized, even
though it could be and will be tomorrow. When they imposed arbitrary
fines, you said nothing because you were not the one victimized. When
they kicked in the door of the home of someone suspected of drug
possession and killed the innocent owner, you said nothing because your
loved one was not the one killed and because you believe anything goes
when it comes to fighting drug use. When they drove an innocent man to
suicide in their attempt to collect taxes never owed them, you said n
othing because the victim was not someone you knew and valued.
When they bullied television network executives into accepting a ratings
system, you said nothing because you are not an owner of a television
station. When they, in the name of children, came for the producers of
children’s television programs, making it criminal to express certain
ideas, you did not speak out because you believe anything can be
sacrificed in the name of children, even though these children will not
be free when they become adults. When they suspended the right to trial
by jury for accused "deadbeat dads," you said nothing because you are
not a deadbeat dad.

Even though you oppose socialized medicine, when they passed legislation
further regulating doctors, you said nothing, dismissing it as only a
"small step," perhaps hoping it would not affect you in your lifetime,
hoping that "somehow" it would not result in socialized medicine. When
they got you to accept the idea that your money is not yours, that they
may forcibly take "your" money and dictate to you how much you may keep
for your own needs, you said nothing because you consider taxation to be
a necessary evil. When they came for the online news organizations, you
said nothing because you are not a user of online services.

And when they and their evil finally come for you—and they will, if
America continues down this road to hell—will there be enough left who
will care about your plight, will there be anyone left to speak out for
you, to defend you? You already know the answer: there won’t be, if this
country continues to sink into the cesspool of statism, if most
Americans continue to maintain an indifferent silence about freedom’s
decline. And if you are one of those who have said nothing, then your
silence and the logic of your bad premises will finally avenge
themselves on you in practice…

[CTRL] Inaugural Addresses of the Presidents - Warren G. Harding

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/inaugural/pres46.html
A HREF="http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/inaugural/pres46.html"
Inaugural Addresses of the Presidents of the Un /A
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Warren G. Harding

Inaugural Address

Friday, March 4, 1921







  Senator Harding from Ohio was the first sitting Senator to be elected
President. A former newspaper publisher and Governor of Ohio, the
President-elect rode to the Capitol with President Wilson in the first
automobile to be used in an inauguration. President Wilson had suffered
a stroke in 1919, and his fragile health prevented his attendance at the
ceremony on the East Portico of the Capitol. The oath of office was
administered by Chief Justice Edward White, using the Bible from George
Washington's first inauguration. The address to the crowd at the Capitol
was broadcast on a loudspeaker. A simple parade followed.







My Countrymen:
  WHEN one surveys the world about him after the great storm, noting the
marks of destruction and yet rejoicing in the ruggedness of the things
which withstood it, if he is an American he breathes the clarified
atmosphere with a strange mingling of regret and new hope. We have seen
a world passion spend its fury, but we contemplate our Republic
unshaken, and hold our civilization secure. Liberty—liberty within the
law—and civilization are inseparable, and though both were threatened we
find them now secure; and there comes to Americans the profound
assurance that our representative government is the highest expression
and surest guaranty of both.
1  Standing in this presence, mindful of the solemnity of this occasion,
feeling the emotions which no one may know until he senses the great
weight of responsibility for himself, I must utter my belief in the
divine inspiration of the founding fathers. Surely there must have been
God's intent in the making of this new-world Republic. Ours is an
organic law which had but one ambiguity, and we saw that effaced in a
baptism of sacrifice and blood, with union maintained, the Nation
supreme, and its concord inspiring. We have seen the world rivet its
hopeful gaze on the great truths on which the founders wrought. We have
seen civil, human, and religious liberty verified and glorified. In the
beginning the Old World scoffed at our experiment; today our foundations
of political and social belief stand unshaken, a precious inheritance to
ourselves, an inspiring example of freedom and civilization to all
mankind. Let us express renewed and strengthened devotion, in grateful
reverence for the immortal beginning, and utter our confidence in the
supreme fulfillment.2  The recorded progress of our Republic, materially
and spiritually, in itself proves the wisdom of the inherited policy of
noninvolvement in Old World affairs. Confident of our ability to work
out our own destiny, and jealously guarding our right to do so, we seek
no part in directing the destinies of the Old World. We do not mean to
be entangled. We will accept no responsibility except as our own
conscience and judgment, in each instance, may determine.3  Our eyes
never will be blind to a developing menace, our ears never deaf to the
call of civilization. We recognize the new order in the world, with the
closer contacts which progress has wrought. We sense the call of the
human heart for fellowship, fraternity, and cooperation. We crave
friendship and harbor no hate. But America, our America, the America
builded on the foundation laid by the inspired fathers, can be a party
to no permanent military alliance. It can enter into no political
commitments, nor assume any economic obligations which will subject our
decisions to any other than our own authority.4  I am sure our own
people will not misunderstand, nor will the world misconstrue. We have
no thought to impede the paths to closer relationship. We wish to
promote understanding. We want to do our part in making offensive
warfare so hateful that Governments and peoples who resort to it must
prove the righteousness of their cause or stand as outlaws before the
bar of civilization.5  We are ready to associate ourselves with the
nations of the world, great and small, for conference, for counsel; to
seek the expressed views of world opinion; to recommend a way to
approximate disarmament and relieve the crushing burdens of military and
naval establishments. We elect to participate in suggesting plans for
mediation, conciliation, and arbitration, and would gladly join in that
expressed conscience of progress, which seeks to clarify and write the
laws of international relationship, and establish a world court for the
disposition of such justiciable questions as nations are 

[CTRL] [1] Ivy Ledbetter Lee Papers

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from
http://infoshare1.princeton.edu:2003/libraries/firestone/rbsc/finding_aids/lee
.html
A HREF="http://infoshare1.princeton.edu:2003/libraries/firestone/rbsc/finding
_aids/lee.html"Ivy Ledbetter Lee Papers/A
-
Amazing and hopefully will get better. More at web site.
Om
K
--[1]--

Ivy Ledbetter Lee Papers

1881-1989

Bulk Dates 1915-1946

MC #085








•Introduction
•Biographical Sketch
•History
•Arrangement
•Series Descriptions
•Related Records
•Folder List


© 1997 Princeton University Library






Introduction


The Ivy L. Lee Papers consist of personal papers and material from the
public relations firm of Ivy Lee and Associates documenting his public
relations theories and practice. Included are correspondence, diaries,
articles, writings, public relations material, newsreels, and
photographs reflecting his interest in public relations, transportation
(especially railroads), financial markets, and foreign relations, among
others. The Papers also contain documents relating to other Lee family
members including Reverend James W. Lee (father), Emma Eufaula Lee
(mother), Cornelia Bartlett Bigelow Lee (wife), Alice Lee Cudlipp
(daughter), James W. Lee II (son), and Ivy L. Lee, Jr. (son).

The papers were given to the Princeton University in the late 1950s by
the Lee family. Subsequently, public relations material (Matter Sent Out
volumes) from Ivy Lee and Associates, were a gift of T. J. Ross and
Associates in 1978. Over the last thirty years Ivy Lee's sons and
daughter have on occasion donated additional papers to the Library.

Single photocopies may be made for research purposes. Permission to
publish material from the collection must be requested from the
Associate University Librarian for Rare Books and Special Collections.
The Library has no information on the status of literary rights in the
collection and researchers are responsible for determining any question
of copyright. Citations should be as follows: Ivy L. Lee Papers, Box #,
Seeley G. Mudd Library, Used by permission of the Princeton University
Library.

Size:

79 linear feet (118 archival boxes, 30 oversize boxes, 2 films).

This collection was processed by Paula Jabloner with the assistance of
Katherine Couch and Shawn O'Neill from September 1992 to June 1993.


Biographical Sketch


Ivy L. Lee was born in Cedartown, Georgia on July 16, 1877 of Emma
Eufaula Ledbetter Lee and the Reverend Dr. James Wideman Lee, a well
known Methodist clergyman in the South. Ivy Lee's childhood was spent in
Atlanta, Georgia except for his senior year in high school spent in St.
Louis, Missouri. He attended Emory College in Atlanta for two years and
then transferred to Princeton University from which he graduated in
1898. While at Princeton Lee was active on the college newspaper and won
the Lynde debate prize.

Lee did post-graduate work at Harvard and Columbia Universities but due
to lack of funds entered newspaper work. He was a journalist at the New
York American, the New York Times, and the New York World. He preferred
to write about business and financial affairs. His first work in public
relations came in 1903 as publicity manager for the Citizens' Union. He
authored the textbook (The Best Administration New York City Ever Had)
used in Seth Low's unsuccessful mayoral campaign. Lee then took a press
job with the Democratic National Committee.

Lee and George Parker, press agent for the Democratic National
Committee, opened the pioneering public relations firm of Parker and Lee
in 1905. Parker provided the connections and Lee the creativity in this
venture. In this era of muckraking journalism, Lee saw the benefit
public relations work could have for big business, believing if people
were presented with all the facts on both sides of an issue they would
not come down so harshly on business interests. Lee saw his role as
interpreting the public to the industrialists and the industrialist to
the people. To achieve this end Lee believed in supplying the newspapers
with as much information as possible. His "Declaration of Principles,"
drafted during the anthracite coal strike in the spring of 1906, explai
ned his guiding precepts of public relations theory. The main points of
the Declaration were, to guarantee the accuracy of his facts and leave
to the discretion of the newspaper editor whether an item was worth
printing as news. The aim was to provide news not advertising.

Another opportunity to practice these principles came with work for the
Pennsylvania Railroad in 1906. The railroad had a policy of refusing
reporters access to all accident sites or granting interviews. This
policy led to reporters' mistrust of the railroad and in turn mistrust
on the part of the general public. Lee immediately opened the lines of
communication with frequent updates and arranged for reporters to travel

Re: [CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/30/99 12:49:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Two software engineers have extracted information from the Melissa virus
 that appears to lead to an account on America Online Inc. and a Web site
 that, if matched with a person, could lead law enforcement officials to the
 author of the prolific virus.

 The key is a controversial serial number, called the Global Unique
 Identifier or GUID, which is included in files created with Microsoft
 Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT) Office, as well as some other applications, including
 Visual Basic. The serial number raised the concern of privacy advocates just
 a few weeks ago for its ability to be used to trace certain documents back
 to their creator.

 That's exactly what two software engineers have done. 

Well, it looks like another carefully crafted hoax so that the government can
get more broad reaching powers to interfere in the free flow of ideas in
cyberspace.  WOW, I wonder how many people, or should I say "Sheeple" will now
think that the identifiers are a GOOD thing after all?
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Melissa creator may be uncovered

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/30/99 1:59:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Uh huh  does this seem like it's just a tad too convienient
 to anyone else . First the internet community  puts out up a roar
 in response to the inherent privacy invasion of all these
 tracking devices popping up and suddenly the virus of all viruses
 comes along , warranting FBI notifications for the first time
 ever . Then we are all saved from sure destruction of our beloved
 e-mail capabilities by the very chips we all so despise , thereby
 proving the error of our ways as these ID's are our friends .

 Just a thought .
 Divine ~ 

See my post for similar comments.  Mr. Will (or is it Mrs. Will?) or can I
call you Divine?  You have captured the essence of my thoughts exactly.
Teo1000

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[CTRL] [2] Ivy Ledbetter Lee Papers

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

ffrom
http://infoshare1.princeton.edu:2003/libraries/firestone/rbsc/finding_aids/lee
.html
A HREF="http://infoshare1.princeton.edu:2003/libraries/firestone/rbsc/finding
_aids/lee.html"Ivy Ledbetter Lee Papers/A
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Amazing and hopefully will get better. More at web site.
Om
K
--[2]--
FINANCIAL INTERESTS

Lee had considerable experience in financial matters from his days as a
Wall Street reporter and his work for Harris, Winthrop  Co. which led
to many clients in the financial world. Otto Kahn (1916-1931), head of
Kuhn Loeb  Co., was a long standing client of the firm. Kahn publicized
many of his memoranda and speeches on world financial matters through
Ivy Lee  Associates. Many of the investment firms Lee represented
distributed bulletins as a source of information for their investors and
the general public. Dominick  Dominick (1924-1932) produced a bulletin
of this sort and also distributed press releases on matters of concern
to the investment house. Bankers Trust's (1920-1927) bulletin was
Foreign Information and provided information on Europe generally dealing
with financial and commercial matters. Liberty National Bank (1920-1921)
a forerunner of New York Trust Company (1921-1946) distributed Present
Day Scandinavia and The Index. New York Trust continued to produce The
Index providing information for investors. Investment houses sparsely
represented are Speyer  Co., Dillon Read  Co., Frazier Jelke  Co.,
 and Kuhn Loeb  Co.

The researcher interested in the public relations efforts for various
foreign loans will want to consult the Poland, Rumania, and United
States-French Financial News Agency files.

FOOD PRODUCTS

The firm engaged in public relations for a number of food producers and
distributors. Armour Inc. (1923-1935), the meat packing company, was the
largest food producer client of Ivy Lee  Associates. The material on
Armour consists of stockholder information, the acquisition of Morris
and Co., press releases, and consumer information. The printed material
consists of information on the Packers Consent Decree, pamphlets
offering information on the meat packing industry, financial reports and
consumer information among others items.

Another client was General Mills Inc. (1928-1945) and its predecessor
the Washburn Crosby Company. These files consist of press releases and
pamphlets providing information on flour milling, sales, wheat
production, the first Betty Crocker recipes, along with stockholder
information.

The papers include a variety of small companies and organizations
involved in the production of Cuban sugar; these have been combined
under the heading Sugar Interests (1922-1934). The files contain reports
on the current sugar market and production information on Cuban sugar.
The later material refers to the International Sugar Council, an
organization Lee helped established, that called for cooperative efforts
to stabilize sugar prices throughout the world under the Chadbourne
Plan. The papers contain one folder of information on Bacardi Rum.

 NATURAL RESOURCES

Since the supply of coal and petroleum were very important to most
industries, Lee took a strong interest in the production and
distribution of natural resources. The oldest material found in the MSO
sub-series is from the Colorado Fuel and Iron Co. (1915-1927).
Rockefeller first consulated with Lee over strikes at the company in
1914. The MSO material from 1915 and 1916 is almost exclusively on John
D. Rockefeller, Jr.'s testimony before the U.S. Commission on Industrial
Relations concerning the strike of 1914. The other MSO material is on
later strikes.

The Petroleum War Service Committee (1917-1918) and its predecessor the
American Petroleum Institute (1919-1922) was an organization of
petroleum producers created to coordinate the petroleum supply during
the war and cooperate with the government. After the war its main focus
was to promote the general interests of the petroleum industry.
Publicity material consists of informational pamphlets, press releases,
and bulletins with useful information to member companies. A. C. Bedford
was chairman of the committee and institute and also director of
Standard Oil Co. (1917-1942) another client of the firm. The Standard
Oil Co. files contain many addresses by Bedford that relate to the
condition of the petroleum industry. The 1927 file contains publicity
material from a proxy fight involving John D. Rockefeller, Jr. to force
Colonel Stewart the current Standard Oil Co. director to resign. Ivy Lee
and Associates also did public relations work for Socony-Vacuum Oil Co.
(1935-1944) producers of Mobil gas and a division of Standard Oil. The
MSO material consists of press releases, annual reports, and information
for stockholders.

Some of Lee's earliest public relations work was for anthracite coal
operators during a 1906 coal strike. This association with coal
producers continued when the Anthracite Operators (1921-1926) asked Lee
to produce public 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #3

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/30/99 3:16:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 *** Mars probe deploys antenna. PASADENA, CA. (AP) The Mars Global Surveyor
 has successfully unfolded its high-gain antenna that had been retracted
 against the spacecraft's body since it was launched in November 1996. "The
 antenna is deployed and we just got telemetry - everything looks like it's
 working perfectly," a JPL spokeswoman said. In the deployed position, the
 dish-shaped antenna can move on gimbals to transmit data to Earth and
 receive commands while the spacecraft's instruments continuously map the
 planet. See www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558979867-9ee
 and http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9903/29/mars.snow.ap/index.html

 : What planets would you like to monitor/map? Do you have a reliable mental
 map of your own planet in your head? Who put it there? Does it change? How?
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 

I guess it is only a matter of time until the Nazi's on the Mars base get
around to shooting this one down with there particle beam weapons.  Or is it
aliens?  Anyway, something will probably happen to it soon enough.
Teo1000

DECLARATION  DISCLAIMER
==
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Poor Ant

[Teo One Thousand]

Interesting new version of the old Ant and Grasshopper story, that is
particularly relevant in these "interesting times".
Forwarded from a friend.
Teo1000










From: Rand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rand netcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Poor Ant
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:58:30 -0800


THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER - 1999

THE CLASSIC VERSION

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house
and laying up supplies for the winter.  The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and
laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.  The grasshopper has no food or
shelter so he dies out in the cold.


THE MODERN VERSION

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house
and laying up supplies for the winter.  The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and
laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to
know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are
cold and starving.  CBS, CNN, NBC and ABC show up to provide pictures of the
shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comfortable home with a
table filled with food.

America and the world is stunned by the sharp contrast.  How can it be that,
in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

Then a representative of the NAAGB (National Association of Green Bugs) shows
up on Nightline and charges the ant with "green bias," and makes the case that
the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism.

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries
when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green."  Bill and Hillary Clinton make a
special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan
Rather that they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been
denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the
Reagan summers, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures of the 80's."

Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has
gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax
hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share."

Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act."
Retroactive to the beginning of the summer, the ant was fined for failing to
hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his
retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the
ant's food while the government house he's in, which just happens to be the
ant's old house, crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow.  And on the TV, which the grasshopper
bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton
standing before a wildly applauding group of compatriots announcing that a new
era of "fairness" has dawned in America.

[CTRL] Serbia the victim of Nazi's?

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

A different, interesting perspective on the Balkan situation: arguing that the
Serbs, historically anti-Nazi, are victims again of the "Nazis," revived under
the guise of Germany-dominated NATO (with US/Turkish/Arab Octopus links?)--

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Nazi_neo.html
and elsewhere on the same site

Here is the text below:


GERMAN NAZIS MURDER AGAIN
Plus brag about it!
NEW BOOK:  "FUEHRER EX"

Memoirs of a Former Neo-Nazi

INGO HASSELBACH
WITH TOM REISS

Chatto  Windus, London

Copyright @) 1996 by Ingo Hasselbach

Ingo Hasselbach has asserted his right under the Copyright,
Designs and Patents Act, 1988 to be identified as the author
of this work.

First published in Great Britain in 1996 by
Chatto  Windus Limited
Random House, 20 Vauxhall Bridge Road,
London SW1V 2SA

Random House Australia (Pty) Limited
20 Alfred Street, Milsons Point, Sydney
New South Wales 2061, Australia

Random House New Zealand Limited
18 Poland Road, Glenfield
Auckland 10, New Zealand
Random House South Africa (Pty) Limited
PO Box 337, Bergvlei, South Africa
Random House UK Limited Reg No. 954009

"Fuhrer Ex" grew from:
Die Abrechnung: Ein Neonazi steigt aus
by Ingo Hasselbach and Winfried Bonengel
published in Germany in 1993 by Aufbau Verlag GmbH

A CIP catalogue record for this book
is available from the British Library

ISBN 0 7011 6536 7

Printed and bound in Great Britain by
Mackays of Chatham PLC, Chatham, Kent

Excerpts:
Pages 207-9:

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(Quote:)
IN THE SPRING of 1991, the civil war in Croatia began. The Movement saw it
as the perfect chance to give those who wanted it real experience killing
people. Moreover, there was a historical tie: during World War II Nazi
Germany had played an active role in Yugoslav ethnic politics; the Nazis
had supported a puppet dictatorship in Croatia, the Ustashe, that had built
concentration camps in which mostly Serbs but also Jews were killed.

The current government in Croatia was reviving the tradition of the Ustashe
and in many other ways honoring the former Fascists. Units of the Croatian
Army were flying swastika flags, and many more were flying the old Croatian
Fascist symbol. Croatia had become the first European government since
World War II to openly embrace these symbols. ... It was a neo-Nazi dream
come true.

All of the West German neo-Nazis saw it as a wonderful opportunity, but
Nero Reisz, the barking anti-Semite from Hesse, was particularly pleased.
The problem for him was that there weren't enough Jews being killed. But
Serbs would do.

A system was set up whereby potential recruits for Croatia were first
trained in paramilitary camps in Germany, then passed on to middlemen who
were responsible for arranging their transport, clothing, and food on the
way to the front.

The way it worked was first through a word-of-mouth network. We had to be
careful about doing any advertising because hiring mercenaries was strictly
illegal in the Federal Republic. It was simply known in the scene that you
could go to Croatia, if fighting was your trip, and that in Berlin I was
one of the contacts. The other main contact people in Berlin were Arnulf
Priem and Oliver Schweigert. Once we'd checked out recruits to make sure
they weren't spies, we took them to a paramilitary camp to get tested and
trained. We were mainly interested in whether they were physically fit to
go down there. Mental fitness didn't interest us much.

I knew one guy from the GDR who'd been loosely involved in the Movement for
about a year and then went down to Croatia because it was a chance to kill
Communists, i.e., the Serbs. He wasn't even much of a neo-Nazi, really. He
simply hated the Stasi, who'd tortured him in jail, and was half crazy to
get some revenge on anyone for his suffering. He had shoulder-length hair,
like a hippie, and hardly any sense of purpose at all. He just wanted a
chance to kill "Communists", and he got it in Croatia. In a documentary some
television team made at the front, he was interviewed and he talked about
how many Serbs he'd killed and how much he'd learned about weapons. Less
than a year later, he was killed himself.

But the more sane and careful ones came back after a few months or a year
with valuable training in weapons and explosives. They'd of course also
learned what it was like to kill people. (Many stayed down there, living in
the hills, constantly involved in skirmishes no one ever heard about, and
are only now coming back into Germany and Austria and forming the basis of
the most militant and dangerous neo-Nazi cells.)

The effort to organize young German neo-Nazis and send them to Croatia to
fight and kill for the Ustashe - as the SS had once done - was organized
largely by the Movement representatives in Hesse, Bavaria, and-for
logistical reasons, as it was directly on the border with
Yugoslavia-Austria. The main man in charge in Germany was Nero 

[CTRL] Links on Yugoslavia and Ustashi

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

Forwarded from the venerable DasGoat, editor of this list (currently in exile
in the real world, LOL), and excellent researcher.
Teo1000


Interesting links
This article submitted by on 11/06/98 at 8:20 PM.

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More about the situation in the former Yugoslavia:
ttp://www.suc.org/~kosta/tar/#history
http://www.morantek.demon.co.uk/
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/library.html
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/lib-contents.html
http://cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~eesrdan/ndh/ndh-INDEX.html
Media in the Balkans:
http://www.iacenter.org/bosnia/nbtoc.htm
http://sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu/~mirjana/rat/mediji/mediji-INDEX.html

ITN’s fake story:
http://www.informinc.co.uk/ITN-vs-LM/index.html

Reports on war in former-YU
http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/izvestaji/index.html
http://www.cdsp.neu.edu/info/students/marko/othpol.html

Genocide on Serbs:
http://www.yugoslavia.com/Society_and_Law/Jasenovac/index.htm
http://home1.gte.net/pribich/.htm
http://www.kosovo.com/suffering.html

War crimes on Serbs:
http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/centar/
gopher://sajo.itu.ch/11/.1/MISSIONS/.1/Yugoslav%20Mission/War%20Crimes%20in%20
former%20Yugoslavia

The Fate of the Wartime Ustashi Treasury (from US embassy in Stockholm)
http://www.usemb.se/regional/eur/nazigold/croat01.htm

Ustashi:
http://www.suc.org/~kosta/tar/ndh/
http://cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~eesrdan/ndh/ndh-INDEX.html

Ustashi movement today:
http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/new.ustase/index.html

Atlas of the Ustashi genocide:
http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/knjige/atlas/

Jasenovac:
http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/jasenovac/

Online book about the Vatican's and Stepinac's role during the ustashi regime
of WW II:
http://www.reformation.org./holocaus.html

This is a link to a comment on Stepinac's beatification:
http://www.reformation.org./stepinac.html

For information on Kosovo, go to:
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/kosovo-problem.html
http://come.to.kosovo [http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/2897/]
http://www.kosovo.com
http://www.beograd.com/kosovodossier/index.html
http://www.kosovo.net
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/mlad/
http://www.kosmet.co.yu
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/bookstore/kosovo/kosovo.htm
http://www.yuembusa.org/
http://www.gov.yu/sszi/index.html

Daily news in Kosovo
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/kosovo/
http://www.mediacentar.org

Religion in Kosovo
http://decani.yunet.com
List of shrines
http://www.decani.yunet.com/shrines.html#anchor A
http://www.decani.yunet.com/shrines1.html#anchor N
Map of shrines
http://www.decani.yunet.com/kartakos1.gif



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Subject: OUR LUCIFERIAN GOVERNMENT!
From: Secret Squirrel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3/24/99 3:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
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WHY AREN'T WE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GENOCIDE WE ARE CREATING IN
IRAQ??

 TOP TEN PUBLIC ENEMIES

PUBLIC ENEMY #1: David Rockefeller, 2. Henry Kissinger, 3. Pete
Peterson, 4. Alan Greenspan, 5. George Soros, 6. Robert Rubin,
7. George Bush, 8. Warren Christopher, 9. Bill Clinton, 10. William
S. Cohen.

I would like you to imagine that the Mafia had taken control of our
federal gov't, and most of our local gov'ts.  America would be in
dire circumstances, wouldn't it?  Well, this is exactly what has
happend; except a far more sinister organization has taken control.
It is David "the devil" Rockefeller, and his Luciferian travellers,
the CFR.  These people are responsible for the slaughter of 100s
of thousands of people in their "banker wars."  Through the Federal
Reserve they have corrupted our gov't, and stolen trillions of
dollars from the American people.  They are now in the process of
turning our Constitutional Republic into a Dictatorship.  They intend
to enslave us, and put the survivors of the coming genocide on their
"global plantation."

Pete Peterson is the current head of the CFR and the Concord Coali-
tion.  This man is currently waging war against the poor and the
elderly: by robbing them of their pension benefits (Social Security),
and cutting back on Medicare.  He believes that these proceeds should
be used to enrich his globalist friends.

This is a Zionist/Freemason conspiracy, and dates back to the founding
of the Illuminati in 1776.  This elitist organization was financed by
the Rothschilds, and is responsible for most of the world's misery
since it's founding.

Your only chance of surviving: is to network with your local law-
enforcement, have your Sheriff deputize you, and demand that your
state sovereignty be observed -- this means keeping the "baby killers"
out!  Also, demand that David Rockefeller, his gang of killers and
thieves (the CFR) be arrested, before they murder anymore of our sons
and daughters (Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.).  I would also advise the English
to do the same with the Rothschilds and the RIIA.

At the end of the 1000 years Satan is released, and he seduces the
nations of the earth, prior to the end of the world -- rv.20:7-15,
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Check this out from alt.conspiracy.  Some interesting comments, a little
bizarre but some of it is probably right on the money.  Or is ti??
Teo1000


Subject: High-Tech Weapons Used to Kill UFO Researchers//Enemy Prisoners
Resisiters Camp Exposed!!
From: "Art Wholeflaffer A. S. A. " [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3/25/99 1:22 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: 7dcknh$os6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]

High-Tech Weapons used to Eliminate UFO Researchers
"Enemy Prisoners War Camp"

A week ago, a group of Black-Op elite Night Stalkers and Delta Forces
invaded a UFO conference and eliminated thousands of people.
This was a test to expunge 150,000,000 Americans by the
year 2012.

The following weapons were used against these unarmed civilians:

* Ultra-sound generators, which causes disorientation.
* Visual stimulus and illusion techniques such as high intensity strobes.
* Reduced energy kinetic weapons.
* New disabling, calmative, sleep inducing agents mixed with DMSO.
* Microwave and acoustic disabling systems.
* Aqueous barrier foam which can be laced with pepper spray.
* Blinding laser weapons and Isotrophic radiator shells.
* Thermal guns
* Magnetosphere guns
*Acoustical heterodyning technology
*Photon torpedoes.
*Miniature Cobalt Anti-Matter Bomb.

Prisoner Camp Exposed!

There can be NO question that researcher Norio Hayakawa has demonstrably
proven that a War Camp  is being built for Dissidents who will not
follow the "Party-Line" in regards to our Extraterrestrial
friends and foes.  Mr. Hayakawa had previously predicted the
authentic "Alien-Autopsy" film even BEFORE it happened.
Any reasonable and concerned citizen would take
this Nevada Military Department contract as a harsh reality
and continue this important research before they themselves
become a political prisoner.  I can assure you that the
National In-Security Agency sp00ks such as L. Manetti will be
a prison guard at this concentration camp.  In fact he
must, his "handlers" have given him his marching orders.

As an addendum; sp00k-Manetti claimed he has no knowledge
of this Facility, yet his name is listed as
Commandant of The Clark County UFO-Dissidents
ENEMY PRISONER WAR CAMP.  If that doesn't send
shivers up you spine, than you are either an alien-human clone,
or your brain is no longer the boss.  Either way, it's bedtime
for Bonzo for the good ol' U. S of A!  Heaven help us because
the Reptilians and the Praying-Mantis types WON'T (or can't!)

Many debunkers and researchers alike are always screaming
for proof, well keep on reading because here is PROOF POSITIVE:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (GroomWatch) wrote:

Here is an interesting item from
CONSTRUCTION NOTEBOOK NEWS,  March 23, 1998
An Independent Voice for the Construction Industry Since 1953
3131 Meade Avenue, Las Vegas, Nevada 89102
Volume XLVI, No. 12

PAGE 5

(QUOTING):

BID RESULTS (CONT'D)

JOB: CLARK COUNTY TRAINING AREA, ENEMY PRISONER WAR CAMP
  PROJECT NO. NVMD-98-003

Location: Approx. 300 yards north of the Union Pacific Railroad in the
Nevada Army National Guard Training Area, Range Road, Las Vegas, NV

Proj. Mgr.: Nevada Military Department
   Facilities Management Office

Owner:  Nevada Army Nation Guard

Bid Date: March 19, 1998

BID RESULTS:

ZCON INC..$61,314
(APPARENT LOW)..(L.V., NV)
889-3004
CBR CONST...$63,000
  (L.V., NV)
COMPETE CONST..$73,525
  (L.V., NV)

(END QUOTING)
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My questionjust whom do they plan to incarcerate in this Enemy
Prisoner
War Camp?
Also,  does this facility have anything to do with the FEDERAL PRISON CAMP
located between AREA II of Nellis Air Force Base and the main Nellis Air Force
Base  (at Nellis Blvd., Las Vegas, NV)

-Norio Hayakawa
GroomWatch : Home Page for Norio Hayakawa
http://www.eagle-net.org/groomwatch
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Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)responded on 11/25/98:

Sorry, Art...

That POW camp is for Army POW training.  How to hold them, how to treat, etc.
They
will get classes of active-duty, guard, and reserve personnel to mistreat for
training.  I've been to the USAF version at Fairchild and its pretty
interesting,
but hardly the facility you could actually hold anyone at against their will.

You're just gonna have to look farther for UFO prison camps.BTW, how
many
people do you think this camp is going to hold?

Ragnar
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Art Wholeflaffer responds;

  Thank you for your information Rangar.  I happen to know for a fact that
there are contingency plans to round up the majority of this countries
population
for total liquidation, if that scenario arises.  Hopefully, there are members
of the
Military with a conscience and can put the brakes on the