[ECOLOG-L] Teaching of Environmental Science(s) et al. using "plagiarism" detection software

2018-02-28 Thread Jorge A. Santiago-Blay
 Do you teach Teaching of Environmental Science(s) et al. (any science
course) using "plagiarism" detection software

Dear Colleagues:

Do you teach Environmental Science(s) et al. and use "plagiarism" detection
software (e.g., Turnitin)? If "yes",

1. What word string setting have you found useful?

2. Taking into account false positives (e.g., properly quoted passages,
literature cited, etc.), what similarity percentage triggers in you
reporting the student for "insufficient levels of originality"?

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[ECOLOG-L] Plagiarism in science courses - research project

2011-06-12 Thread Kerry Mauck
Hello Ecologgers,

I am doing a small study on plagiarism in science courses as part of an
inquiry project for a graduate course in college teaching. This study was
inspired by my own experiences with plagiarism as a teaching assistant for
introductory entomology courses and one of the outcomes is to hopefully
gather suggestions for addressing plagiarism issues in order to improve
these courses. As part of the study I am asking faculty and teaching
assistants a few key questions in order to better understand how other
educators approach plagiarism and whether it modifies their approach to
writing assignments. If any of you have experience teaching undergraduate
science courses (and particularly general education courses) I would really
appreciate your input on the questions below. You can send replies to
kem...@gmail.com.
*
*

*1)  How do you define plagiarism? Are there different “degrees” of
plagiarism? *

*2)  How do you educate your students about plagiarism? Do you encounter
instances of plagiarism in your course(s)? If so, what assignments are
associated with the highest rates of plagiarism?*

*3)  If you have encountered plagiarism, how did you detect it
(software, change in student voice in a written assignment)? How did it make
you feel? How did you deal with it (reprimand, academic sanctions)?*

*4)  If you have used plagiarism detection software, did you use it as a
deterrent as well as a detection method (did your students know it was in
use)? What were the positive and negative aspects of the software?*

*5)  Name one or two plagiarism prevention strategies you have used or
heard about from colleagues. Have you tried any of these strategies (if so,
how did it work out)?*

*6)  Have plagiarism issues motivated you to alter assignments or
develop new assignments that enhance student learning about writing and the
use of sources? Describe some of your approaches. *

*
*

*Thanks for any input you can provide. *

*
*

*-Kerry Mauck*


Re: On Plagiarism (i.e. misinterpretation)

2006-10-09 Thread Cara Lin Bridgman
This is where library research comes in.  We have to try to make sure we 
are not passing on misinterpretations.  If you want to cite something 
that Author B has paraphrased from a paper by Author A, then you really 
should find the original paper.  How do you know Author B really 
understood what Author A wrote?  So, it's our job to double-check.  If 
you can't get Author A's paper, then cite '(Author A cited in Author B)' 
to show you have to rely on Author B's interpretation.

CL

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 However, sometimes I have come across papers where the authors misinterpreted
 the original results or ideas, and thereby this misinterpretation was carried
 forward in their paraphrasing. This could be dangerous, especially if someone
 else were to quote the misinterpretation.

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Re: plagiarism

2006-10-06 Thread Coudun, Christophe
Dear colleagues,

Two more pennies/euro cents on plagiarism.

I am at the beginning of my career and have up to now published four
papers in peer-reviewed journals. For each of these papers, I have made
a list of the colleagues I quoted the work from (based on the list of
cited references) and have sent them a pdf of the final paper by e-mail.

I think this practice prevents me from plagiarism, since I know that the
quoted scientists will read the paper and look carefully for reference
to their work. I have had positive feedback on this practice and I guess
it is a good opportunity to advertise my work and build a network.

Any thoughts about it?

Cheers,
Christophe.

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plagiarism

2006-10-06 Thread David C Baker
Hello, all
This may not feel good to many of you, but I feel the need for a reality
check.  I will not paraphrase or quote the original thread, but I will add
my original thoughts on the thread and the subsequent commentary.

Many of the responses have the feeling of arrows being flown from ivory
towers.  A few responses have actually had constructive leads towards
defining and preventing the various forms of plagiarism.   I do not
publish, for several reasons (nothing to publish, mostly) but have been an
undergraduate and graduate student, and a professional, and I think the
pressures on each are different, and a converse to not citing has not been
addressed.

I had (at least 4) classes as an undergraduate that were considered
writing intensive courses, required if in the science majors. To the best
of my knowledge there were no modules addressing plagiarism.  As a graduate
student at the same institution, I was not given formal training in what is
plagiarism vs. some interpretation of what another researcher had found. I
agree that quotation of published material without adequate citation is
wrong, and perhaps paraphrasing is also worth penalizing, but rote
condemnation is not the answer.

I cannot think of an instance where I quoted published sources and did not
cite them.  I might have as an undrgrad, and not known that I was not
supposed to, and if I did as a grad student, it would have been
unintentional.  As for paraphrasing, it is difficult as a student to know
what is considered common knowledge vs new information.  Depending on the
biases of our advisors, the leaning of our
universities/colleges/departments, some things are considered common
knowledge or facts, while others find those tidbits of 'knowledge' to be
speculation or conjecture.

Not all of us have immediate access to JSTOR or university libraries.  We
may also not have time due to budget constraints (I work for GWBush) to do
the totally inclusive literature search to find the totally obscure
reference.

That said, I do remember working hard to find references for my class
papers and MS thesis that would totally disrupt readability, and supposedly
substantiate what I had written.  However, no one seems to care if their
stuff is cited incorrectly, or without basis (as I think many citations in
papers and theses are).  I suppose for academics it is more important to
notch citations in those indices that record such than to care if it is
done appropriately.

I acknowledge diversity among scientists, professionals and academics.
This is not pointed at all.
David Baker, Ecologist
Central Oregon Interagency Ecology Program
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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Cara Lin Bridgman
My students are bright enough to produce whole papers from carefully 
selected quotations.  If they included citations and quotation marks, 
they are not plagiarizing, but neither are they writing.

In science, we are biased against quotes.  This is because we 
paraphrase.  This isn't just to provide smooth transitions between cited 
ideas.  Paraphrasing is evidence we understand what we read.

In the Orient, so much of education emphasizes memorizing.  Their test 
questions tend more towards 'Quote ABC on XXX.'  I don't think this 
proves we understand ABC's ideas on XXX.  So many of my own high school 
and college test questions were 'Explain XXX using your own words.

CL

Amartya Saha wrote:
 Hello all,
 for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting literature, and
 perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..
 
 If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed to 
 directly
 lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper would be
 quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in one's own
 words.
 Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one rephrases
 the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and referenced of
 course ).
 
 Thanks for any views
 amartya
 
 
 
 Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Dear Ecologgers:

It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
 that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
 at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).

 But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
 values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
 on plagiarism.

 So I guess a simple problem has complex social
 solutions (nothing new there).




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Re: Plagiarism, citation requirements, and conferences...

2006-10-05 Thread Cara Lin Bridgman
This is another very important issue.  I have reviewers tell me that I 
could not cite papers because they were not peer reviewed.  So, to 
properly attribute the ideas and the data, I am supposed to give the 
citation in the text, but giving the full citation in text every time I 
cite something is a huge waste of space (not to mention breaking up 
thoughts and sentences).  So much of my information is from non-peer 
reviewed sources (park reports, conference proceedings).  In fact, I 
usually need to cite the same grey literature sources repeatedly.

I asked my adviser about what I should do about this.  He had the same 
frustrations with this policy.  As a way around it, he suggested 
publishing first in a journal without this policy and citing my paper in 
later publications.  The problem with this is that I still cannot give 
credit where credit is due.  Those reading my later papers will assume 
all citations of my earlier paper are referring to my own work and ideas.

I think some journals have changed their policies, possibly recognizing 
the importance of recognizing data and ideas from non-peer reviewed 
sources.  About five years ago Conservation Biology insisted on peer 
reviewed only.  Looking at their literature cited sections now, I can 
see that policy has changed.

CL

Jonathan Greenberg wrote:
 William Silvert's story inspired me to ask a modified question on this topic
 -- some journals require that citations ONLY include peer-reviewed articles.
 I have heard horror stories (not me, fortunately) about researchers who have
 presented preliminary results at conferences, only to have these results
 appear (uncited) in an article by a person who attended this conference, who
 was simply faster getting the manuscript out the door.  These ideas make me
 (early in my career) nervous when I present the more exciting, newer science
 I'm doing at conferences.  Do journals that require only peer reviewed
 literature to appear in the article bibliographies need to rethink this
 approach?  Personally, I think its ridiculous to restrict what an author
 feels is citable material, and I think that new authors need to be honest
 about where they heard ideas if they aren't their own -- conference
 proceedings, even the talks themselves, need to be cited.
 
 --j
 

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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Scott Ruhren
Hopefully my final 2-cents... at a roadside meeting with a state trooper,
Ignorance of the law does not excuse you from responsibility. Still,
innocent plagiarism is an opportunity for education but does not absolve
one from guilt nor responsibility.

Scott

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To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: On Plagiarism

As I understand it, the reason for this is that in science the =20
precise words the original author used are not considered important, =20
but the ideas are. So you express the ideas in your own words and =20
give credit to their author. Often you can state the ideas in a way =20
more immediately relevant to the matter at hand, and perhaps more =20
economically. I don't think that one is trying to avoid plagiarism by =20=

changing the wording; the important thing is to give credit where =20
credit is due. In the humanities, especially literature and drama =20
perhaps, the author's original words may be as important as, or more =20
important than, the idea expressed (To be or not to be - =20
Shakespeare). Indeed the wording may be the subject of discussion. So =20=

one would quote verbatim, with attribution. Again, the crucial point =20
is to give due credit to the originator.
Charles

On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Amartya Saha wrote:

 Hello all,
 for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting =20
 literature, and
 perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..

 If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed =20=

 to directly
 lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper =20=

 would be
 quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in =20
 one's own
 words.
 Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one =20=

 rephrases
 the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and =20
 referenced of
 course ).

 Thanks for any views
 amartya



 Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Ecologgers:

It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
 that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
 at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).

 But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
 values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
 on plagiarism.

 So I guess a simple problem has complex social
 solutions (nothing new there).




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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Frank Berninger
While I understand Claras reservation, I think we should think that 
there should be a larger role for quotes.

Finding the right words is difficult and if somebody has found a genial 
way of expressing himself, why not use his words as a quote. 

It is, however, true that if quotes make up more than a few % of a paper 
it is an indication that something is wrong.

Frank



Cara Lin Bridgman wrote:
 My students are bright enough to produce whole papers from carefully 
 selected quotations.  If they included citations and quotation marks, 
 they are not plagiarizing, but neither are they writing.

 In science, we are biased against quotes.  This is because we 
 paraphrase.  This isn't just to provide smooth transitions between cited 
 ideas.  Paraphrasing is evidence we understand what we read.

 In the Orient, so much of education emphasizes memorizing.  Their test 
 questions tend more towards 'Quote ABC on XXX.'  I don't think this 
 proves we understand ABC's ideas on XXX.  So many of my own high school 
 and college test questions were 'Explain XXX using your own words.

 CL

 Amartya Saha wrote:
   
 Hello all,
 for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting literature, and
 perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..

 If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed to 
 directly
 lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper would be
 quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in one's own
 words.
 Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one rephrases
 the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and referenced of
 course ).

 Thanks for any views
 amartya



 Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Dear Ecologgers:

It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
 that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
 at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).

 But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
 values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
 on plagiarism.

 So I guess a simple problem has complex social
 solutions (nothing new there).




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 PTerrestrial Plant Ecology/P
 PINIFAP-Ags/P
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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Amartya Saha
I agree that paraphrasing requires one to understand the material one
references, as well as express it more concisely ( in the interests of space
).

However, sometimes I have come across papers where the authors misinterpreted
the original results or ideas, and thereby this misinterpretation was carried
forward in their paraphrasing. This could be dangerous, especially if someone
else were to quote the misinterpretation.

Well this is a completely different issue, but about education in the Orient, I
don't know if its mostly memorizing. My undergraduate institute heavily
focussed on understanding basic principles and applying them. But again perhaps
thats a basic difference between engineering and biology.

Thanks for your views.
amartya



Quoting Cara Lin Bridgman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 My students are bright enough to produce whole papers from carefully 
 selected quotations.  If they included citations and quotation marks, 
 they are not plagiarizing, but neither are they writing.
 
 In science, we are biased against quotes.  This is because we 
 paraphrase.  This isn't just to provide smooth transitions between cited 
 ideas.  Paraphrasing is evidence we understand what we read.
 
 In the Orient, so much of education emphasizes memorizing.  Their test 
 questions tend more towards 'Quote ABC on XXX.'  I don't think this 
 proves we understand ABC's ideas on XXX.  So many of my own high school 
 and college test questions were 'Explain XXX using your own words.
 
 CL
 
 Amartya Saha wrote:
  Hello all,
  for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting literature, and
  perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..
  
  If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed to
 directly
  lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper would
 be
  quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in one's
 own
  words.
  Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one
 rephrases
  the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and referenced of
  course ).
  
  Thanks for any views
  amartya
  
  
  
  Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  Dear Ecologgers:
 
 It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
  that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
  at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).
 
  But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
  values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
  on plagiarism.
 
  So I guess a simple problem has complex social
  solutions (nothing new there).
 
 
 
 
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  P Pabellón Arteaga, 20660/P
  P Aguascalientes, MEXICO/P
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Re: plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Diane S. Henshel
Try these two handouts from the University of Toronto College Writing
Workshop, one of the best of the writing and grammar sites on the web that I
use for my classes:

http://www.utoronto.ca/writing/plagsep.html
http://www.utoronto.ca/ucwriting/paraphrase.html

Diane Henshel


On 10/4/06, David Whitacre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have always been a bit unclear on when paraphrasing verges on =
 plagiarism. When one is citing a paper (freely giving credit for the =
 idea being expressed) and paraphrasing so as to avoid plagiarism and =
 avoid the need for quotes (which seem lame when over-used), it is =
 sometimes tempting to stay fairly close to the original wording because =
 it is difficult to say the thing any better. How much must one change =
 the wording to avoid plagiarism? If one uses ANY PORTION of a comment =
 identically to the original statement, must quotes be used? Certainly, =
 if an entire sentence is duplicated, quotes would be mandatory. But what =
 about where a portion of a sentence is the same, with other portions =
 modified?

 Or should one always strive for a radically different sentence =
 construction to convey the same idea, still of course citing the source =
 of the idea?




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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-05 Thread Wirt Atmar
Scott writes:

 Hopefully my final 2-cents... at a roadside meeting with a state trooper,
 Ignorance of the law does not excuse you from responsibility. Still,
 innocent plagiarism is an opportunity for education but does not absolve
 one from guilt nor responsibility.

Einstein once said, The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your 
sources. 

Wirt Atmar

 


Re: plagiarism

2006-10-04 Thread Cara Lin Bridgman
I'm mainly interested in moving from student plagiarism back to 
plagiarism in submitted manuscripts.

Are there any data on plagiarism frequencies in publications or 
manuscripts submitted for publication?  Or is plagiarism such a dirty 
secret that no one wants to talk about it?  I've found several examples 
of already published plagiarism (peer review and conference proceedings; 
including two paragraphs and a table from my thesis) and in one class, 
my teacher pointed out another case, calling it 'sleazy'.

As far as my own students go, I generally spot plagiarism because their 
English is so bad that the one or two intelligible sentences had to have 
been copied.  I have nowhere near read enough to spot plagiarism through 
my own knowledge of the literature.  Most of my students are writing in 
and citing literature from areas much removed from my own.

I do see it as my job to teach them that plagiarism is absolutely NOT 
ok.  Frankly, if they've gotten as far as graduate school and do not 
know plagiarism is a sin, then they had better learn in my class.  In 
fact, I promise them on the first day of class that if they plagiarize 
(and I define this, give examples, and assign homework), they will fail 
the class.  This also means I have to meet with their adviser to explain 
why they failed.  Failing my class, however, does not keep them from 
getting their degree.

My problem has been that quite a few colleagues do not agree with my 
policy.  In fact, I had to quit teaching in one department, because the 
professors could not accept that almost all their students were failing 
my class because of plagiarism (so this department obviously had more 
trouble with the idea of failing than the idea of plagiarism).  If the 
advisers do not believe plagiarism is wrong, then why should the 
students pay any attention?  The most frequent excuse is language; 
English is a second (or third) language for students and advisers.  The 
second excuse is related to language, i.e. they 'want the paper to be 
perfect.'

CL

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Plagiarism and ESA policy

2006-10-04 Thread Robert K. Peet
The Ecological Society of America's Code of Ethics
(http://www.esa.org/aboutesa/governance/codeofethics.php)
clearly addresses plagerism

Ecologists will not plagiarize in verbal or written communication, but 
will give full and proper credit to the works and ideas of others, and 
make every effort to avoid misrepresentation.

...

When using ideas or results of others in manuscripts submitted for 
publication, researchers will give full attribution of sources. If the 
ideas or results have not been published, they may not be used without 
permission of the original researcher. Illustrations or tables from other 
publications or manuscripts may be used only with permission of the 
copyright owner.


During the period I served as Editor in Chief for _Ecology_ and 
_Ecological Monographs_ the issue of plagiarism would come up from time to 
time.  I worked with the ESA Professional Ethics Committee (at that time 
chaired by Kerry Woods) to develop a policy and adjudication procedure. 
That policy, reproduced below, is available on the ESA publications 
website (http://esapubs.org/esapubs/conditions.htm#Eth).


Adherence to the ESA Code of Ethics

Authors should adhere to the ESA Code of Ethics; it deals with 
authorship, plagiarism, fraud, unauthorized use of data, copyrights, 
errors, confidentiality, intellectual property, attribution, willful delay 
of publication, and conflicts of interest, as well as other matters that 
are not specific to the publication process. The following general 
principles will be adhered to in dealing with situations where an author's 
ethics are in question.

--- Manuscripts submitted to ESA journals are confidential. We will 
not normally reveal whether an author has submitted a manuscript to us or 
what a particular manuscript might contain, unless the authors ask that we 
do so. To do otherwise would be to compromise the ability of an author to 
obtain proper credit for his or her discoveries.

--- In the event that a private individual reports to us concerns 
about the ethics of a particular author, we will take note of such 
concerns and watch for any manuscript by that author that might represent 
questionable ethical practices.

--- If ESA has reason to doubt the ethical practices of an author of a 
manuscript, either because of concern raised by an editor, or because of 
information obtained from some other source, the Editor-in-Chief will 
process the manuscript in accordance with normal practice, but will 
simultaneously refer the matter to the ESA Professional Ethics Committee 
for review. The Committee will conduct whatever investigation it feels 
appropriate, taking care not to inadvertently damage the reputation of any 
of the parties concerned. The Editor-in-Chief will received the advice of 
the Committee and decide a course of action in consultation with the 
Executive Director of the Society.

  ==
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  Curriculum in Ecology, CB#3275Fax:919-962-6930
  University of North Carolina  Cell:   919-368-4971
  Chapel Hill, NC  27599-3275  USA  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Ruhren
One suggestion is to reproduce verbatim (with citation of course!!!) the
institution's policy on plagiarism and academic integrity in every syllabus
handed out. I do this and review this when handing out syllabi at the
beginning of the course. The next step I take is lecturing on citing
literature when introducing written assignments. Best to have an upfront
approach.

Sincerely,
Scott

---
Scott Ruhren, Ph.D.
Senior Director of Conservation
Audubon Society of Rhode Island
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Smithfield, RI 02917-2600
 
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Subject: 7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

On the same matter,

I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get 
into plagiarism.

Roberto

-- 
Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
Plymouth State University



I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a 
manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have 
concerned plagiarism in student work.

Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on 
the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in 
manuscripts or grant proposals?
(I was, for quite a few years, on ESA's Professional Ethics 
Committee, and this issue periodically came under discussion.  I've 
been on editorial boards for quite a while, and there's been little 
explicit discussion there...)

Kerry

Kerry D. Woods
Natural Sciences
Bennington College
Bennington VT 05201
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods




I think that plagiarism is one of the lowest things that you can do, 
and I think my opinion on that would be the same as everybody else on 
this list.

However, I do take exception to the following rule from the 
institution at which Russell Burke is employed:

Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction 
of their second case of plagiarism.  Conviction can occur even in the 
absence of proof of plagiarism

Huh?  If I was a student at this particular institution that was 
CONVICTED OF PLAGIARISM WITHOUT PROOF OF ME HAVING PLAGIARIZED then 
my first question would be Who do I sue to get my reputation back?

Maybe that is part of the reason that nobody really tries to do much 
about this sort of thing.

- Juha Metsaranta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





If they are so desperate to be recognized, then by all means publish their
names.

I would suggest the ESA have a comittee to review offenses and publish the
names of cheaters and their coauthors at the annual business meeting.

Senior faculty authors will be much more careful in the pre-review
process if they may be also humiliated along with errant students.

Cheating for coursework is deplorable, submitting plagarism for peer review
can not be condoned.

Sincerely,

Jim Sparks

On 10/3/06, Jesien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that is the student's fourth documented occurrence of plagiarism, you
can
rest assured that there was a whole lot more that was undocumented.  I

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On the same matter,

I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get 
into plagiarism.

Roberto

-- 
Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
Plymouth State University



I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a 
manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have 
concerned plagiarism in student work.

Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on 
the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in 
manuscripts or grant

On Plagiarism

2006-10-04 Thread Abraham de Alba
Dear Ecologgers:

   It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).

But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
on plagiarism.

So I guess a simple problem has complex social
solutions (nothing new there).




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Re: Plagiarism and ESA policy

2006-10-04 Thread David Bryant
Robert et al;

The comments below pertain only to scholarly publication and NOT  
classroom/student plagiarism:

How does one distinguish between plagiarism and contemporaneous  
development of similar ideas?

Leibniz and Newton both developed calculus during the same period and  
recent evidence suggests that Archimedes developed the idea a few  
hundred years previously.  Who gets credit and who is  
plagiarizing?  Similarly, Alfred Wallace sent a manuscript to  
Darwin containing virtually the  identical concept of Chuck's natural  
selection.  What if he had sent the manuscript for publication,   
would Darwin have a case for plagiarism even though the two had never  
met?

How do we know that so called plagiarists are not simply  
independently arriving at the same concept?

David Bryant
Ipswich, MA



On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Robert K. Peet wrote:

 The Ecological Society of America's Code of Ethics
 (http://www.esa.org/aboutesa/governance/codeofethics.php)
 clearly addresses plagerism

 Ecologists will not plagiarize in verbal or written communication,  
 but
 will give full and proper credit to the works and ideas of others, and
 make every effort to avoid misrepresentation.

 ...

 When using ideas or results of others in manuscripts submitted for
 publication, researchers will give full attribution of sources. If the
 ideas or results have not been published, they may not be used without
 permission of the original researcher. Illustrations or tables from  
 other
 publications or manuscripts may be used only with permission of the
 copyright owner.


 During the period I served as Editor in Chief for _Ecology_ and
 _Ecological Monographs_ the issue of plagiarism would come up from  
 time to
 time.  I worked with the ESA Professional Ethics Committee (at that  
 time
 chaired by Kerry Woods) to develop a policy and adjudication  
 procedure.
 That policy, reproduced below, is available on the ESA publications
 website (http://esapubs.org/esapubs/conditions.htm#Eth).


 Adherence to the ESA Code of Ethics

 Authors should adhere to the ESA Code of Ethics; it deals with
 authorship, plagiarism, fraud, unauthorized use of data, copyrights,
 errors, confidentiality, intellectual property, attribution,  
 willful delay
 of publication, and conflicts of interest, as well as other matters  
 that
 are not specific to the publication process. The following general
 principles will be adhered to in dealing with situations where an  
 author's
 ethics are in question.

 --- Manuscripts submitted to ESA journals are confidential. We will
 not normally reveal whether an author has submitted a manuscript to  
 us or
 what a particular manuscript might contain, unless the authors ask  
 that we
 do so. To do otherwise would be to compromise the ability of an  
 author to
 obtain proper credit for his or her discoveries.

 --- In the event that a private individual reports to us concerns
 about the ethics of a particular author, we will take note of such
 concerns and watch for any manuscript by that author that might  
 represent
 questionable ethical practices.

 --- If ESA has reason to doubt the ethical practices of an author  
 of a
 manuscript, either because of concern raised by an editor, or  
 because of
 information obtained from some other source, the Editor-in-Chief will
 process the manuscript in accordance with normal practice, but will
 simultaneously refer the matter to the ESA Professional Ethics  
 Committee
 for review. The Committee will conduct whatever investigation it feels
 appropriate, taking care not to inadvertently damage the reputation  
 of any
 of the parties concerned. The Editor-in-Chief will received the  
 advice of
 the Committee and decide a course of action in consultation with the
 Executive Director of the Society.


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   Curriculum in Ecology, CB#3275Fax:919-962-6930
   University of North Carolina  Cell:   919-368-4971
   Chapel Hill, NC  27599-3275  USA  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-04 Thread Amartya Saha
Hello all,
for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting literature, and
perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..

If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed to directly
lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper would be
quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in one's own
words.
Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one rephrases
the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and referenced of
course ).

Thanks for any views
amartya



Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Ecologgers:
 
It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
 that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
 at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).
 
 But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
 values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
 on plagiarism.
 
 So I guess a simple problem has complex social
 solutions (nothing new there).
 
 
 
 
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Plagiarism: A Student's Perspective

2006-10-04 Thread Markael Luterra
I have always been somewhat frightened by the zero-tolerance policy of 
academic institutions toward plagiarism.  This is, in part, because I 
feel it would be very easy to accidentally commit plagiarism by simply 
forgetting to insert a citation.  In my view, there are at least five 
types of plagiarism, and all require different responses.

1.  Cheating.  Entire papers or large sections are copied and presented 
as original work.  This is most likely to occur in a university context 
and should deserve a harsh response.

2.  Malicious plagiarism.  Citations are intentionally omitted in order 
to make others' work appear to be original.  This can occur in 
professional journals and in schools and deserves punishment, although 
unfortunately it can be difficult to separate this from the next category.

3.  Negligent plagiarism.  Citations are omitted with no intention of 
plagiarizing.  This can occur simply by accident (some spelling errors 
slip into journals) or can be more subtle.  Scientists are constantly 
reading journal articles, and our thought processes are inevitably 
influenced by our reading, perhaps in ways that we don't always 
recognize.  It is therefore entirely possible to write a non-original 
idea while personally believing that the idea is yours.  This type of 
plagiarism should be minimized, but in my opinion should not be punished 
unless it occurs often enough to demonstrate sloppy practices.

4.  Word-choice plagiarism.  Writers who are new to English or new to 
scientific writing styles are tempted to copy sentences word-for-word 
from articles, changing minor details to make the meaning correct.  
While this is clearly plagiarism by definition, it is not a stealing of 
concepts, ideas, or results per se, and it may represent a positive step 
toward learning the mechanics of scientific writing.

5.  Misattribution.  I personally know several students who find it 
easier to write first and cite later.  Inevitably, this leads to some 
ideas attributed to the wrong authors and a few omitted citations.  This 
is certainly sloppy behavior, but not outright malicious and so in my 
opinion not deserving of a harsh punishment unless it continues after 
several warnings.

Zero-tolerance makes sense for actions which are always intentional 
(i.e. a minor cannot accidentally consume alcohol), but not for 
plagiarism, which may result from accidental omission or an incomplete 
knowledge of citation procedures.  School is about teaching the best 
practices and minimizing mistakes, not about punishing those who make 
mistakes.  Unless large-scale cheating has occurred or plagiarism has 
occurred numerous times, I feel that failure or expulsion as a 
consequence of plagiarism is not justified.

Mark Luterra
Carleton College
Northfield, MN


Re: Plagiarism and ESA policy

2006-10-04 Thread William Silvert
There are many cases of scientists independently arriving at the same idea, 
but normally plagiarism means that one has directly copied from anothers 
work, as evidenced by similar or identical wording.

Theft of ideas is harder to prove. Sometimes someone is sitting on an idea, 
then finds out that someone else is about to publish, so he rushes into 
print. That is a harder issue to address.

Since some of the posters on this topic write from an editorial perspective, 
I would add that the worst case of (attempted) theft of ideas occurred back 
in the 1970s when I submitted a paper to the American Naturalist. After 
waiting for a decision for about a year and receiving no reply to numerous 
letters I went to their office and spoke to the editor in person. He 
informed me that he had sent the ms. to a member of their editorial board, 
who replied that he had a student working on the same problem and asked that 
he hold up the ms. until the student had a chance to publish. Wow! (The 
paper was of course withdrawn and very quickly accepted by Math. Biosci.)

Bill Silvert


- Original Message - 
From: David Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Plagiarism and ESA policy


 Robert et al;

 The comments below pertain only to scholarly publication and NOT
 classroom/student plagiarism:

 How does one distinguish between plagiarism and contemporaneous
 development of similar ideas?

 Leibniz and Newton both developed calculus during the same period and
 recent evidence suggests that Archimedes developed the idea a few
 hundred years previously.  Who gets credit and who is
 plagiarizing?  Similarly, Alfred Wallace sent a manuscript to
 Darwin containing virtually the  identical concept of Chuck's natural
 selection.  What if he had sent the manuscript for publication,
 would Darwin have a case for plagiarism even though the two had never
 met?

 How do we know that so called plagiarists are not simply
 independently arriving at the same concept?

 David Bryant
 Ipswich, MA 


Re: Plagiarism and ESA policy

2006-10-04 Thread David Bryant
Bill,

Yes I'm aware of the semantic distinction but was providing innocent  
examples that may have ostensibly been seen as scurrilous.

In the example you cite I would have been hard pressed not to issue a  
formal complaint regarding the ethics of both the editor and the  
board member, with the vow never to submit to the journal on the future.

David Bryant

On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:36 PM, William Silvert wrote:

 There are many cases of scientists independently arriving at the  
 same idea,
 but normally plagiarism means that one has directly copied from  
 anothers
 work, as evidenced by similar or identical wording.

 Theft of ideas is harder to prove. Sometimes someone is sitting on  
 an idea,
 then finds out that someone else is about to publish, so he rushes  
 into
 print. That is a harder issue to address.

 Since some of the posters on this topic write from an editorial  
 perspective,
 I would add that the worst case of (attempted) theft of ideas  
 occurred back
 in the 1970s when I submitted a paper to the American Naturalist.  
 After
 waiting for a decision for about a year and receiving no reply to  
 numerous
 letters I went to their office and spoke to the editor in person. He
 informed me that he had sent the ms. to a member of their editorial  
 board,
 who replied that he had a student working on the same problem and  
 asked that
 he hold up the ms. until the student had a chance to publish. Wow!  
 (The
 paper was of course withdrawn and very quickly accepted by Math.  
 Biosci.)

 Bill Silvert


 - Original Message -
 From: David Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Plagiarism and ESA policy


 Robert et al;

 The comments below pertain only to scholarly publication and NOT
 classroom/student plagiarism:

 How does one distinguish between plagiarism and contemporaneous
 development of similar ideas?

 Leibniz and Newton both developed calculus during the same period and
 recent evidence suggests that Archimedes developed the idea a few
 hundred years previously.  Who gets credit and who is
 plagiarizing?  Similarly, Alfred Wallace sent a manuscript to
 Darwin containing virtually the  identical concept of Chuck's natural
 selection.  What if he had sent the manuscript for publication,
 would Darwin have a case for plagiarism even though the two had never
 met?

 How do we know that so called plagiarists are not simply
 independently arriving at the same concept?

 David Bryant
 Ipswich, MA


plagiarism

2006-10-04 Thread David Whitacre
I have always been a bit unclear on when paraphrasing verges on =
plagiarism. When one is citing a paper (freely giving credit for the =
idea being expressed) and paraphrasing so as to avoid plagiarism and =
avoid the need for quotes (which seem lame when over-used), it is =
sometimes tempting to stay fairly close to the original wording because =
it is difficult to say the thing any better. How much must one change =
the wording to avoid plagiarism? If one uses ANY PORTION of a comment =
identically to the original statement, must quotes be used? Certainly, =
if an entire sentence is duplicated, quotes would be mandatory. But what =
about where a portion of a sentence is the same, with other portions =
modified?

Or should one always strive for a radically different sentence =
construction to convey the same idea, still of course citing the source =
of the idea?


Re: On Plagiarism

2006-10-04 Thread Charles Welden
As I understand it, the reason for this is that in science the =20
precise words the original author used are not considered important, =20
but the ideas are. So you express the ideas in your own words and =20
give credit to their author. Often you can state the ideas in a way =20
more immediately relevant to the matter at hand, and perhaps more =20
economically. I don't think that one is trying to avoid plagiarism by =20=

changing the wording; the important thing is to give credit where =20
credit is due. In the humanities, especially literature and drama =20
perhaps, the author's original words may be as important as, or more =20
important than, the idea expressed (To be or not to be - =20
Shakespeare). Indeed the wording may be the subject of discussion. So =20=

one would quote verbatim, with attribution. Again, the crucial point =20
is to give due credit to the originator.
Charles

On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Amartya Saha wrote:

 Hello all,
 for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting =20
 literature, and
 perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas..

 If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed =20=

 to directly
 lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper =20=

 would be
 quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in =20
 one's own
 words.
 Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one =20=

 rephrases
 the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and =20
 referenced of
 course ).

 Thanks for any views
 amartya



 Quoting Abraham de Alba [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Ecologgers:

It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is
 that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been
 at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter).

 But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress
 values before knowledge) also have been known to trip
 on plagiarism.

 So I guess a simple problem has complex social
 solutions (nothing new there).




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Duke's plagiarism tutorial

2006-10-04 Thread Rebecca Vidra
Hello,

Duke University has recently unveiled a Plagiarism Tutorial
(https://plagiarism. duke.edu) that all first year students must complete
before registering for Spring semester. While this type of tool might not
prevent intentional plagiarism, perhaps it will alert students to some of
the subtleties of citing sources.

Rebecca L. Vidra
Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow
University Writing Program
Duke University


Re: Plagiarism: A Student's Perspective

2006-10-04 Thread Dave Thomson
Mark, 

Your post reads so well I am tempted to consider plagiarism!  :)  Thank
you for a very thoughtful perspective.  I was saddened to read that this
behavior is on the rise, but I agree with you: we can't throw out the
baby with the bathwater.  

By the way, do I need a citation for that proverb?  

David Thomson 

-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markael Luterra
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:07 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Plagiarism: A Student's Perspective

I have always been somewhat frightened by the zero-tolerance policy of 
academic institutions toward plagiarism.  This is, in part, because I 
feel it would be very easy to accidentally commit plagiarism by simply 
forgetting to insert a citation.  In my view, there are at least five 
types of plagiarism, and all require different responses.

1.  Cheating.  Entire papers or large sections are copied and presented 
as original work.  This is most likely to occur in a university context 
and should deserve a harsh response.

2.  Malicious plagiarism.  Citations are intentionally omitted in order 
to make others' work appear to be original.  This can occur in 
professional journals and in schools and deserves punishment, although 
unfortunately it can be difficult to separate this from the next
category.

3.  Negligent plagiarism.  Citations are omitted with no intention of 
plagiarizing.  This can occur simply by accident (some spelling errors 
slip into journals) or can be more subtle.  Scientists are constantly 
reading journal articles, and our thought processes are inevitably 
influenced by our reading, perhaps in ways that we don't always 
recognize.  It is therefore entirely possible to write a non-original 
idea while personally believing that the idea is yours.  This type of 
plagiarism should be minimized, but in my opinion should not be punished

unless it occurs often enough to demonstrate sloppy practices.

4.  Word-choice plagiarism.  Writers who are new to English or new to 
scientific writing styles are tempted to copy sentences word-for-word 
from articles, changing minor details to make the meaning correct.  
While this is clearly plagiarism by definition, it is not a stealing of 
concepts, ideas, or results per se, and it may represent a positive step

toward learning the mechanics of scientific writing.

5.  Misattribution.  I personally know several students who find it 
easier to write first and cite later.  Inevitably, this leads to some 
ideas attributed to the wrong authors and a few omitted citations.  This

is certainly sloppy behavior, but not outright malicious and so in my 
opinion not deserving of a harsh punishment unless it continues after 
several warnings.

Zero-tolerance makes sense for actions which are always intentional 
(i.e. a minor cannot accidentally consume alcohol), but not for 
plagiarism, which may result from accidental omission or an incomplete 
knowledge of citation procedures.  School is about teaching the best 
practices and minimizing mistakes, not about punishing those who make 
mistakes.  Unless large-scale cheating has occurred or plagiarism has 
occurred numerous times, I feel that failure or expulsion as a 
consequence of plagiarism is not justified.

Mark Luterra
Carleton College
Northfield, MN


Re: 7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

2006-10-04 Thread Jason Rohr
How do people feel about plagiarizing your own work?  I once
reviewed a paper where 2/3 of the Discussion section was identical to
the author's Discussion section from his previous paper published in a
journal that held the copyright.  The author even switched the order
of these identical paragraphs suggesting that the plagiarism was
intentional.  The editor, much to my surprise, did not reprimand the
author, rather he accepted the paper under the provision that the
author rewrite the Discussion.  Was this the correct response on the
part of the editor?  Is this even considered plagiarism in the minds
of our ecological community?  Is this less offensive than plagiarizing
someone else's work or is plagiarism plagiarism?

On 10/3/06, David Inouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the same matter,

 I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get
 into plagiarism.

 Roberto

 --
 Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
 Plymouth State University


 
 I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a
 manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have
 concerned plagiarism in student work.

 Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on
 the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in
 manuscripts or grant proposals?
 (I was, for quite a few years, on ESA's Professional Ethics
 Committee, and this issue periodically came under discussion.  I've
 been on editorial boards for quite a while, and there's been little
 explicit discussion there...)

 Kerry

 Kerry D. Woods
 Natural Sciences
 Bennington College
 Bennington VT 05201
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods


 

 I think that plagiarism is one of the lowest things that you can do,
 and I think my opinion on that would be the same as everybody else on
 this list.

 However, I do take exception to the following rule from the
 institution at which Russell Burke is employed:

 Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction
 of their second case of plagiarism.  Conviction can occur even in the
 absence of proof of plagiarism

 Huh?  If I was a student at this particular institution that was
 CONVICTED OF PLAGIARISM WITHOUT PROOF OF ME HAVING PLAGIARIZED then
 my first question would be Who do I sue to get my reputation back?

 Maybe that is part of the reason that nobody really tries to do much
 about this sort of thing.

 - Juha Metsaranta
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 

 If they are so desperate to be recognized, then by all means publish their
 names.

 I would suggest the ESA have a comittee to review offenses and publish the
 names of cheaters and their coauthors at the annual business meeting.

 Senior faculty authors will be much more careful in the pre-review
 process if they may be also humiliated along with errant students.

 Cheating for coursework is deplorable, submitting plagarism for peer review
 can not be condoned.

 Sincerely,

 Jim Sparks

 On 10/3/06, Jesien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If that is the student's fourth documented occurrence of plagiarism, you
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 I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get
 into plagiarism.

 Roberto

 --
 Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
 Plymouth State University


 
 I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a
 manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have
 concerned plagiarism in student work.

 Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on
 the original question; what's the proper

plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread Alan Wilson
Dear All,

I recently reviewed a manuscript that plagiarized from at least two 
of my papers.  Based on my findings, the editor quickly rejected the 
manuscript and discouraged the authors from submitting it 
elsewhere.   After sharing the experience with my colleagues, I was 
surprised at the disparity in their reactions.  Some were disgusted 
by the plagiarism (as I was), while others would have been flattered 
if their text had been copied.   Although I am happy to know that the 
manuscript was rejected, I am not totally convinced that the 
punishment (i.e., rejected manuscript) fit the crime given that the 
manuscript may have been rejected anyway - regardless of the plagiarism.

My questions to the group have to do with how you feel about 
plagiarism and plagiarists.

(1) Is this a common phenomenon?
(2) How should plagiarists be handled?

Thanks for your feedback.

Alan




Alan E. Wilson
CILER - University of Michigan
2205 Commonwealth Blvd.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: 734-741-2293; cell: 770-722-9075; fax: 509-356-5349
website: 
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Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread Joe Conroy
Alan,

I am sorry to hear that some of your manuscripts were plagiarized.  I also 
feel that these instances will only increase in occurrence in the coming 
years, based upon the ease with which scientists, students, etc. can find 
and transfer this information, the extreme bulk of information out there 
and the inability to read all of it, and the move towards non-peer-reviewed 
journals (see Science in the News from just yesterday 
http://www.americanscientist.org/template/NewsletterDirect).  Recently, 
the engineering department at Ohio University found that a number of 
students had plagiarized a fair amount of text (constituting a full 
investigation, faculty reprimands, and potential revoking of awarded 
degrees, if my memory serves me correctly) and I don't imagine that this is 
the only school where the problem exists.

All the best,

joe

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Doctoral Candidate

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The Ohio State University

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At 07:46 AM 10/3/2006, Alan Wilson wrote:
Dear All,

I recently reviewed a manuscript that plagiarized from at least two
of my papers.  Based on my findings, the editor quickly rejected the
manuscript and discouraged the authors from submitting it
elsewhere.   After sharing the experience with my colleagues, I was
surprised at the disparity in their reactions.  Some were disgusted
by the plagiarism (as I was), while others would have been flattered
if their text had been copied.   Although I am happy to know that the
manuscript was rejected, I am not totally convinced that the
punishment (i.e., rejected manuscript) fit the crime given that the
manuscript may have been rejected anyway - regardless of the plagiarism.

My questions to the group have to do with how you feel about
plagiarism and plagiarists.

(1) Is this a common phenomenon?
(2) How should plagiarists be handled?

Thanks for your feedback.

Alan




Alan E. Wilson
CILER - University of Michigan
2205 Commonwealth Blvd.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: 734-741-2293; cell: 770-722-9075; fax: 509-356-5349
website:
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Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread Henebry, Geoffrey
Alan,

Plagiarism has many forms, some quite subtle. It is incumbent upon us to
teach our students, particularly graduate students, about the forms of
academic dishonesty and how to recognize and avoid treacherous ground. 

I include below a snippet from a handout on academic dishonesty that I
use in a graduate seminar that focuses on professional skills. 

Geoff

---

ACADEMIC DISHONESTY: Assorted sordid things that ought not to be done or
even considered!

There are many acts - both of commission and omission - that constitute
ill deeds in the academe. Of particular concern for graduate students
are the misdeeds of Fabrication  Falsification and Plagiarism.  

Falsification involves altering data or information.  Fabrication is
more creative in that it involves invention or counterfeiting of data or
information.  Both of these activities are cardinal sins in science
because the development of scientific knowledge depends upon the
reliability of results and the trustworthiness of conclusions.
Pseudo-data mislead. Spin misinforms. Authentic negative results are
more valuable and more informative than false positive results. 

The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary tells us that plagiary derives
from the Latin words for kidnapper (plagiarius) and kidnapping
(plagium), which in turn come from the Greek word plagios that Liddell
and Scott's An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon relates to mean
slanting, oblique, not straightforward, crooked, treacherous. In
English, the term plagiarist was first used to describe a literary
thief: one who steals the words and phrases of another without
attribution.  From our grammar school days, we are all familiar with the
customary precautions against plagiarism: Don't copy out of that
encyclopedia! and Include your sources in the bibliography!  The
rules are different in graduate school and in the scientific community
at large.  For those that deal in the realm of concepts, hypotheses, and
speculations, the plagiarism of ideas is an ever-present risk.  What is
original versus what is reinvented or rediscovered?  It is critical that
you work through the relevant extant literature in preparation for
grappling with your own data.  The literature provides the accumulated
experience of many bright minds: it can illuminate the path to your
work.  Be careful to acknowledge those that assist you, whether their
assistance derives from written material or verbal exchanges.  Finally,
don't underestimate the ability of professors to identify plagiaristic
passages.  More than likely, they know the literature better than you!

|||//*\\|||
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Professor of Biology and Geography  
Senior Research Scientist 
Geographic Information Science Center of Excellence (GIScCE) 
Wecota Hall, Box 506B 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:46 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] plagiarism

Dear All,

I recently reviewed a manuscript that plagiarized from at least two 
of my papers.  Based on my findings, the editor quickly rejected the 
manuscript and discouraged the authors from submitting it 
elsewhere.   After sharing the experience with my colleagues, I was 
surprised at the disparity in their reactions.  Some were disgusted 
by the plagiarism (as I was), while others would have been flattered 
if their text had been copied.   Although I am happy to know that the 
manuscript was rejected, I am not totally convinced that the 
punishment (i.e., rejected manuscript) fit the crime given that the 
manuscript may have been rejected anyway - regardless of the plagiarism.

My questions to the group have to do with how you feel about 
plagiarism and plagiarists.

(1) Is this a common phenomenon?
(2) How should plagiarists be handled?

Thanks for your feedback.

Alan




Alan E. Wilson
CILER - University of Michigan
2205 Commonwealth Blvd.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: 734-741-2293; cell: 770-722-9075; fax: 509-356-5349
website: 
http://ciler.snre.umich.edu/research/profiles/wilson/wilsonprofile.html


Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread William Silvert
Unfortunately there are many forms of academic dishonesty, some of which are 
of epidemic proportion. Plagiarism is bad, but I think the practice of 
ripping vital pages out of books on reserve is worse. As for the comment 
that the internet faclitates plagiarism, it also facilitates finding it - 
just search for a suspicious phrase.

I used to teach physics and we routinely set up lab experiments in which it 
was impossible to get the right (i.e., textbook) answer. Honest students 
learned that some experimental procedures are biassed. Others got caught, 
and unfortunately this often included the majority of students.

Bill Silvert

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To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: plagiarism


 ACADEMIC DISHONESTY: Assorted sordid things that ought not to be done or
 even considered!

 There are many acts - both of commission and omission - that constitute
 ill deeds in the academe. Of particular concern for graduate students
 are the misdeeds of Fabrication  Falsification and Plagiarism... 


Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread J. Michael Nolan
Sent that last message too fast.

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Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread Russell Burke
Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction of
their second case of plagiarism.  conviction can occur even in the
absence of proof of plagiarism--it is defined in the student code as
even the appearance of plagiarism.  thus, a student repeatedly seen
looking at their neighbor's paper during a test can be considered to be
plagiarizing even if they claim they were just stretching their neck or
whatever.  We use the Turnitin.com service a lot, our students expect
it.  we run workshops in our intro bio courses on what plagiarism is and
is not, our students are often surprised to learn how much they do is
actually plagiarism.  the ones we mostly catch now are those they were
too negligent to check their turnitin reports before submitting their
papers for grading.  
 
 
 
Dr. Russell Burke
Department of Biology
114 Hofstra University
Hempstead, NY 11549
voice: (516) 463-5521
fax: 516-463-5112
http://www.people.hofstra.edu/faculty/russell_l_burke/


 Andy Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/3/2006 11:44 AM 

I am currently pursuing an undergraduate case where I will advocate
that
the student in question be expelled for the 4th documented occurrence
of
plagiarism.  We cannot, in good conscience, allow students that cheat
to
graduate from our departments.  I consider plagiarism to be
intellectual
dishonesty of the worst kind.  It is premeditated cheating: planned
and
intentional.

What could be worse than plagiarism at the next level?  Now, I
understand that there can be mistakes.  I helped publish a MS thesis a
few years back that had direct uncredited quotes, but I believe the
student had written the quotes into a note book from papers on the
subject and then later failed to recognize that the notes did not
represent his/her own writing.  Sloppy, but excusable, and I caught it
in time. And I became more careful after that.

Bottom line, if it's intentional, it's serious and should not be
tolerated.
Andy


Andrew R. Dyer
Assoc. Professor of Ecology
Dept. of Biology  Geology
University of South Carolina Aiken
471 University Parkway
Aiken, SC  29801
Vox 803-641-3443
Fax 803-641-3251
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:46 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: plagiarism

Dear All,

I recently reviewed a manuscript that plagiarized from at least two 
of my papers.  Based on my findings, the editor quickly rejected the 
manuscript and discouraged the authors from submitting it 
elsewhere.   After sharing the experience with my colleagues, I was 
surprised at the disparity in their reactions.  Some were disgusted 
by the plagiarism (as I was), while others would have been flattered 
if their text had been copied.   Although I am happy to know that the 
manuscript was rejected, I am not totally convinced that the 
punishment (i.e., rejected manuscript) fit the crime given that the 
manuscript may have been rejected anyway - regardless of the
plagiarism.

My questions to the group have to do with how you feel about 
plagiarism and plagiarists.

(1) Is this a common phenomenon?
(2) How should plagiarists be handled?

Thanks for your feedback.

Alan




Alan E. Wilson
CILER - University of Michigan
2205 Commonwealth Blvd.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: 734-741-2293; cell: 770-722-9075; fax: 509-356-5349
website: 
http://ciler.snre.umich.edu/research/profiles/wilson/wilsonprofile.html


Re: plagiarism

2006-10-03 Thread Jesien
If that is the student's fourth documented occurrence of plagiarism, you can
rest assured that there was a whole lot more that was undocumented.  I have
no doubt that many students borrow so extensively from the internet and
published works that they may not even be aware that it is plagiarism.
Plargiarism is unacceptable and students should be taught that it is
unacceptable, each case in which the act is allowed to go unpunished merely
reinforces its acceptable nature.

Roman Jesien, Science Coordinator
Maryland Coastal Bays Program
9919 Stephen Decatur Highway - Suite 4
Ocean City, Maryland 21842
410-213-2297  phone
410-213-2574  fax
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-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:45 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: plagiarism


I am currently pursuing an undergraduate case where I will advocate that
the student in question be expelled for the 4th documented occurrence of
plagiarism.  We cannot, in good conscience, allow students that cheat to
graduate from our departments.  I consider plagiarism to be intellectual
dishonesty of the worst kind.  It is premeditated cheating: planned and
intentional.

What could be worse than plagiarism at the next level?  Now, I
understand that there can be mistakes.  I helped publish a MS thesis a
few years back that had direct uncredited quotes, but I believe the
student had written the quotes into a note book from papers on the
subject and then later failed to recognize that the notes did not
represent his/her own writing.  Sloppy, but excusable, and I caught it
in time. And I became more careful after that.

Bottom line, if it's intentional, it's serious and should not be
tolerated.
Andy


Andrew R. Dyer
Assoc. Professor of Ecology
Dept. of Biology  Geology
University of South Carolina Aiken
471 University Parkway
Aiken, SC  29801
Vox 803-641-3443
Fax 803-641-3251
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:46 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: plagiarism

Dear All,

I recently reviewed a manuscript that plagiarized from at least two
of my papers.  Based on my findings, the editor quickly rejected the
manuscript and discouraged the authors from submitting it
elsewhere.   After sharing the experience with my colleagues, I was
surprised at the disparity in their reactions.  Some were disgusted
by the plagiarism (as I was), while others would have been flattered
if their text had been copied.   Although I am happy to know that the
manuscript was rejected, I am not totally convinced that the
punishment (i.e., rejected manuscript) fit the crime given that the
manuscript may have been rejected anyway - regardless of the plagiarism.

My questions to the group have to do with how you feel about
plagiarism and plagiarists.

(1) Is this a common phenomenon?
(2) How should plagiarists be handled?

Thanks for your feedback.

Alan




Alan E. Wilson
CILER - University of Michigan
2205 Commonwealth Blvd.
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: 734-741-2293; cell: 770-722-9075; fax: 509-356-5349
website:
http://ciler.snre.umich.edu/research/profiles/wilson/wilsonprofile.html


7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

2006-10-03 Thread David Inouye
On the same matter,

I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get 
into plagiarism.

Roberto

-- 
Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
Plymouth State University



I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a 
manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have 
concerned plagiarism in student work.

Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on 
the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in 
manuscripts or grant proposals?
(I was, for quite a few years, on ESA's Professional Ethics 
Committee, and this issue periodically came under discussion.  I've 
been on editorial boards for quite a while, and there's been little 
explicit discussion there...)

Kerry

Kerry D. Woods
Natural Sciences
Bennington College
Bennington VT 05201
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods




I think that plagiarism is one of the lowest things that you can do, 
and I think my opinion on that would be the same as everybody else on 
this list.

However, I do take exception to the following rule from the 
institution at which Russell Burke is employed:

Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction 
of their second case of plagiarism.  Conviction can occur even in the 
absence of proof of plagiarism

Huh?  If I was a student at this particular institution that was 
CONVICTED OF PLAGIARISM WITHOUT PROOF OF ME HAVING PLAGIARIZED then 
my first question would be Who do I sue to get my reputation back?

Maybe that is part of the reason that nobody really tries to do much 
about this sort of thing.

- Juha Metsaranta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





If they are so desperate to be recognized, then by all means publish their
names.

I would suggest the ESA have a comittee to review offenses and publish the
names of cheaters and their coauthors at the annual business meeting.

Senior faculty authors will be much more careful in the pre-review
process if they may be also humiliated along with errant students.

Cheating for coursework is deplorable, submitting plagarism for peer review
can not be condoned.

Sincerely,

Jim Sparks

On 10/3/06, Jesien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that is the student's fourth documented occurrence of plagiarism, you
can
rest assured that there was a whole lot more that was undocumented.  I

...snip...




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On the same matter,

I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get 
into plagiarism.

Roberto

-- 
Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
Plymouth State University



I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a 
manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have 
concerned plagiarism in student work.

Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on 
the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in 
manuscripts or grant proposals?
(I was, for quite a few years, on ESA's Professional Ethics 
Committee, and this issue periodically came under discussion.  I've 
been on editorial boards for quite a while, and there's been little 
explicit discussion there...)

Kerry

Kerry D. Woods
Natural Sciences
Bennington College
Bennington VT 05201
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods




I think that plagiarism is one of the lowest things that you can do, 
and I think my opinion on that would be the same as everybody else on 
this list.

However, I do take exception to the following rule from the 
institution at which Russell Burke is employed:

Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction 
of their second case

Re: 7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

2006-10-03 Thread Loretta Battaglia
We have been using turnitin.com more and more in our classes at Southern
Illinois University.  The database is extensive and contains all papers
submitted to it before, in addition to journal articles, etc...  The
instructor can set up an account for the class, and students can submit
their papers through the account.  The student can use it to measure the
amount of plagiarism (i.e., some red flags will pop up if common phrases are
used) and make corrections before making the final submission.  

I also talk about plagiarism at the beginning of my classes and explain why
it violates the student code of conduct and is unethical.  The turnitin.com
provides a method for them to assess and correct their own work, which can
be a positive and powerful training tool.  Hopefully, it won't be abused by
students who want to check whether they can get away with plagiarizing a
seemingly obscure article or book chapter. 

Loretta Battaglia, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Southern Illinois University Carbondale
Department of Plant Biology and Center for Ecology
Mailcode 6509
Carbondale, Illinois 62901-6509
TEL:  +1 618 453 3216
FAX:  +1 618 453 3441
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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:15 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: 7 more messages on the plagiarism topic

On the same matter,

I wonder what we do to teach and train our students how not to get 
into plagiarism.

Roberto

-- 
Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
Plymouth State University



I note that the original inquiry was not about student work, but a 
manuscript submitted to a journal.  Most of the responses have 
concerned plagiarism in student work.

Both are important themes, but I'd be interested in more thoughts on 
the original question; what's the proper response to plagiarism in 
manuscripts or grant proposals?
(I was, for quite a few years, on ESA's Professional Ethics 
Committee, and this issue periodically came under discussion.  I've 
been on editorial boards for quite a while, and there's been little 
explicit discussion there...)

Kerry

Kerry D. Woods
Natural Sciences
Bennington College
Bennington VT 05201
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods




I think that plagiarism is one of the lowest things that you can do, 
and I think my opinion on that would be the same as everybody else on 
this list.

However, I do take exception to the following rule from the 
institution at which Russell Burke is employed:

Here at Hofstra students are expelled automatically upon conviction 
of their second case of plagiarism.  Conviction can occur even in the 
absence of proof of plagiarism

Huh?  If I was a student at this particular institution that was 
CONVICTED OF PLAGIARISM WITHOUT PROOF OF ME HAVING PLAGIARIZED then 
my first question would be Who do I sue to get my reputation back?

Maybe that is part of the reason that nobody really tries to do much 
about this sort of thing.

- Juha Metsaranta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





If they are so desperate to be recognized, then by all means publish their
names.

I would suggest the ESA have a comittee to review offenses and publish the
names of cheaters and their coauthors at the annual business meeting.

Senior faculty authors will be much more careful in the pre-review
process if they may be also humiliated along with errant students.

Cheating for coursework is deplorable, submitting plagarism for peer review
can not be condoned.

Sincerely,

Jim Sparks

On 10/3/06, Jesien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that is the student's fourth documented occurrence of plagiarism, you
can
rest assured that there was a whole lot more that was undocumented.  I

...snip...




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