RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 Misguided and arrogant, as the service actually costs you nothing.

It costs me nothing, it costs the employers a substantial commission, 
which can be better used on the systems they run.

 You fail to explain how you feel entitled to spam this list,
 particularly in light of your recent activities.

You seem to be suggesting that I have done something wrong by operating 
ORB UK. Could you explain what? Moreover, on the one occasion I was aware 
of there being issues discussed on this list, the author of the RFC in 
question appeared to support my interpretation and implementation of the 
rfc-ignorant portion of the ORB UK listing. Perhaps you think he is also 
wrong?

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 The chosen hourly rate is laughable - even in the current economy, if I 
 was interviewing someone and they pitched themselves that low, I'd laugh 
 them out of the building.  Particularly with Dr. and Internet
 Engineer type declarations.

In which country? That is a fair rate in the UK. It may be low in the US, 
but, last time I looked, Basingstoke, UK was not in the US.

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us. 

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: Problems Logging on to domain.

2001-12-31 Thread Wynkoop, John

We have our network subnetted that way to provide two broadcast doamins of
1022 hosts each.  This is not an improper method of subneting for two
networks.  We just use large networks.  This best suites our organizational
needs and has worked for over five years.  The problem regarding our NT
authentication is new and I suspect it is being caused by a third party on
our network.  Possibly someone running some services they shouldn't be.
Thanks,
John

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problems Logging on to domain.


This is an improper subnet for only 2 networks.  Your using a class B
network and 6 bits from the third octet (252).  This would yield 62 subnets
with 1022 hosts per subnet and a range of 4.  (Check my math everyone).

Why not just close off all the bits for each subnet.  Example:
172.22.64.0
255.255.255.0

and

172.22.32.0
255.255.255.0

This gives you two networks of 254 hosts each.

-Original Message-
From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Problems Logging on to domain.


I'm having some serious problems with my NT domain, have exhausted all my
resources, and don't know where else to look... any help would be
appreciated.  

Symptoms:

My windows 98 clients on a different subnet are unable to log on to the
domain.  (they are on the 172.22.64.0/255.255.252.0 subnet)   My domain
controllers and WINS servers are on the 172.22.32.0/255.255.252.0.  When
anyone tries to log in they get a message saying that The domain password
you supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied.
However, when I use the same credentials on the 172.22.32.0/255.255.252.0
subnet, I can log in with no problems.  The computers on the
172.22.64.0/255.255.252.0 subnet can log in to another domain which has it's
domain controllers on that subnet.  I've also noticed that the problem
computers (the one's on the 172.22.64.0/255.255.252.0 subnet) can not use
WINS to look up the PDC (strange), but can ping it's IP and use DNS to
resolve it's name.  However, this doesn't seem to affect all computers on
that subnet... At this point I'm at my wits end... :(

System Info:

All workstations thus far have been Win98

All of my domain controllers are NT 4 running SP5 or higher...

Event logs for DC's show no failed or successfull log on attempts for any of
the users
that are trying to log in from the affected workstations.

All workstations can use TCP/IP fine, but have problems when trying to use
netbios to contact my PDC.

This worked until last week sometime with no problems, the only thing that's
changed is that the PDC
was on ATM with only one elan and is now on Ethernet (Shouldn't have made
any differance, they are
essentially the same thing).

Thanks,
John

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mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread RACHEL

I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server. 
I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the exchange
mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look there are no
mailboxes.
When I go to properties for the user, it does not show the email address.
I will continue searching the faq.
If anyone knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it. 

thank you

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Possible to change

2001-12-31 Thread Soren Larsen

Hello

I have got an Exchange 2000 server serving multiple email domains. When
the server creates NDR's, error reports or other system information, it
uses the actual Windows 2000 servername in the report. For eksample a NDR
would contain the following text:

server.nwtraders.internally #5.1.1

Is it possible to change this information? I would like it to say
mailsrvr.domain.com instead - without re-installing the server of cause...

Soren

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Andy David

The mailbox wont show up in the ESM until the user opens their mailbox for
the first time or an email is sent to that user.


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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: mailbox not creating


I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server. 
I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the exchange
mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look there are no
mailboxes.
When I go to properties for the user, it does not show the email address.
I will continue searching the faq.
If anyone knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it. 

thank you

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-31 Thread Soysal, Serdar

M...exercises in masochism

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Kumindra, I respectfully disagree.

Martin is correct on this one. The LAST thing you want is people on the dev
team moving boxes back and forth between a dev network and a prod network.
That is definitely a recipe for disaster. In a large environment, the dev
people rarely, if ever, are responsible for supporting anything in the
production environment. You want one group that is responsible for this type
of work, and a change management system that requires approvals before
machines are put on the prod network. Doing it any other way in a large
environment is an exercise in masochism. Even with a CM process in place,
you are bound to get screwed from time to time, but it does minimize the
occurrences. 

I can't even imagine the nightmare you would have if there were three test
networks and everyone had free reign to move boxes from those test networks
to the prod network. You might as well say you have four test networks. You
would rarely have a clue what broke or who did it. The only thing you could
be sure of in the environment you describe is everything being screwed up
and anyone with a brain shopping their resume.

My $.02

Tom.


-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

I disagree with this, Specially y if you have a Development team.

We used to have a separate Development domain, (infact 2 or 3 of them) We
may be setting up and removing domain servers in regular basis, for various
RD and Development related work. 

What one Can do is to physically move those computers out of the main
network, But then people might have communication problems. I don't have
much Of experience in how to manage such installations, but We some how
managed with a little bit of extra discipline from the Developers side. 




Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 December 2001 21:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management. In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing
departments to manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed
like a good idea at the time, but not any longer. There should be a central
point of contact for all machines. Orders are placed through that group and
delivered to them for configuration and delivery to the end users or
departments. That way all hardware is fully tracked and managed. You should
be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs and DAT
updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be installed.

I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you put
that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
management and said OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

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RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.

2001-12-31 Thread Soysal, Serdar

But it was on clearance!  We thought we were getting a good deal!

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


That's what you get for buying your hardware at KMart.

(c)2000 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I(r)
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.



We have a set of 18 production servers that are specifically designed to
crash utterly and completely every 3-4 months.  These are multi-purpose
servers so I get to DR Exchange on the average 3-5 times every time a total
crash occurs because some bozo touches the server after I do.  Therefore I
really don't need to perform DR tests.  Why do it in the lab when you do it
regularly in production.

S.

PS: There is no sarcasm or exaggeration in this e-mail.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


I did lot's of testing and DR's for clients this year...  I plan on having
to do more next year and the years to come.  :o)

D

A TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


How many of you did a test restore of your Exchange environment this year?
[1] Frightfully few I'm afraid. For those who know they didn't test as much
as they should, perhaps a new year resolution (and plan to achieve same) is
in order.

Join me now in scheduling your disaster recovery testing for the new year.
Here are the dates I'll be testing my recovery scenarios [3].

Friday, March 29
Friday, May 31
Friday, July 26
Friday, October 25

Reminders set a week in advance. Time blocked out to allow sufficient time
to complete the task. First test scheduled late enough in the new year to
allow for acquisition of additional hardware and development of test plan if
needed.

Schedule the time now or you'll never find the time. As an Exchange sage
once noted, the wrong time to be practicing your disaster recovery plan is
in the middle of a disaster. Do yourself, your employer and the rest of the
community a favor and schedule your practice sessions now.

[1] Rhetorical question. [2]
[2] Definition for Amit Hanji: rhetorical question n. A question to which no
answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. [3] In my lab anyway.

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RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.

2001-12-31 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Actually the real problem with those boxes is that they are less powerful
than my laptop and run every BackOffice application you can think of, all NT
services (DNS, DHCP etc), run TWO virus scanners AND serve as domain
controllers.  It's like using a dodge neon to haul a freight train.  

S.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


That's what you get for buying your hardware at KMart.

(c)2000 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I(r)
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.



We have a set of 18 production servers that are specifically designed to
crash utterly and completely every 3-4 months.  These are multi-purpose
servers so I get to DR Exchange on the average 3-5 times every time a total
crash occurs because some bozo touches the server after I do.  Therefore I
really don't need to perform DR tests.  Why do it in the lab when you do it
regularly in production.

S.

PS: There is no sarcasm or exaggeration in this e-mail.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


I did lot's of testing and DR's for clients this year...  I plan on having
to do more next year and the years to come.  :o)

D

A TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disaster recovery planning for the new year.


How many of you did a test restore of your Exchange environment this year?
[1] Frightfully few I'm afraid. For those who know they didn't test as much
as they should, perhaps a new year resolution (and plan to achieve same) is
in order.

Join me now in scheduling your disaster recovery testing for the new year.
Here are the dates I'll be testing my recovery scenarios [3].

Friday, March 29
Friday, May 31
Friday, July 26
Friday, October 25

Reminders set a week in advance. Time blocked out to allow sufficient time
to complete the task. First test scheduled late enough in the new year to
allow for acquisition of additional hardware and development of test plan if
needed.

Schedule the time now or you'll never find the time. As an Exchange sage
once noted, the wrong time to be practicing your disaster recovery plan is
in the middle of a disaster. Do yourself, your employer and the rest of the
community a favor and schedule your practice sessions now.

[1] Rhetorical question. [2]
[2] Definition for Amit Hanji: rhetorical question n. A question to which no
answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. [3] In my lab anyway.

Chris
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RE: Moving mailboxes

2001-12-31 Thread Hansen, Eric

Same server?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes

No we are not using exmerge?  What is that and how will that help us?  Does
the server has to be down to run exmerge?  Where do I find that utility
documented? In the beginning someone built multiple containers under the
receipts container.  Now when we try disaster recovery we cannot
successfully complete that task..  We are trying to move all mailboxes in
one container.

Thanks for your help.

 
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes


Are you using Exmerge to do this? What do you mean from one container to
another??? 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchell Mike
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Moving mailboxes


Good afternoon,

Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98.

When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a
person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying
in the mailbox name?

I have been testing this and find that it is true.  We have 1638
mailboxes to move from one container to another.

We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the
mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox
from the PST.  Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default
folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted
20 hours and still get the same error.

Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes.
(I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time
also and we really haven't got that to work either.)

Happy holidays.

Regards, 

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

2001-12-31 Thread John Matteson

Turn on the television and see whats happened - 9-11-2001

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?

Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list.
Your post is nothing but spam.  

S/

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 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites,
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us. 

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Bouzan

We're not right now (hopefully never!) but we still have to geared up to
accept and deal with it.

PBB
~ndi


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 15:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


A Euro (sp?) is running about 88 cents U.S.

Besides, I thought the UK wasn't going to implement the Euro.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


£25/hour is about US$37.50/hour.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: New year, no contract


25/per hour??? Beer must be really cheap there too. 


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: OT: New year, no contract


 Hi folks...
 
 Off topic for the list, but what the hell, it's christmas.
 
 Since ORB UK is now closed pending the creation of Horus, that means 
 I'm out of contract now.
 
 I'm 30, been using MS since before they bought DOS, and I'm a 
 Microsoft Partner in my own right.
 
 I have experience in Windows from 3.1 to ME, OS/2 and NT from 2.1 to 
 XP, DOS'en from 3.3 to 7.1, and Linux. I also use BeOS, MacOS X, 
 FreeBSD and SVR4. My current 'learning experience' is QNX.
 
 I have experience of Sendmail, QMail, Exim, Exchange 5 and 5.5, and 
 Mailtraq, and have used SPTM, POP3, APOP, ETRN and ODMR.
 
 I've been doing telephone and deskside support for the better end of 4

 years, and was part of the support team during the launch of Telewest 
 SurfUnlimited. I've used and supported ISDN, ADSL, and Cable Modems, 
 as well as Leased Line, Routed Solutions and Plain Old dial-up. Sad 
 though I am, I can identify a modem model and a RAS by ear. With 
 Lucent Portmasters, I can even tell the ComOs release by listening to 
 it.
 
 I'm based in Basingstoke, UK, but don't mind commuting, consulting, 
 homeworking, Remote Adminning, or even travelling if the price is 
 right. I'll do Contract or Permanent, and would be looking for ?25 per

 hour for Contract or ?35,000 per annum for permanent.
 
 If you want more info, or a CV, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Many thanks all.
 
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home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Hansen, Eric


Hi

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange site and I was
wondering if Custom Recipients and Distribution Lists have a home server?
This particular server was the first exchange server we had and most of the
original Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that server.  I
cant see anything that would indicate that they have a home server like a
mailbox does.  

Should I be concerned?

e-

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

And addresses don't appear until after the RUS has applied the recipient
policy. If you wait 15 minutes does the account get an address?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 The mailbox wont show up in the ESM until the user opens 
 their mailbox for the first time or an email is sent to that user.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 1:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server. 
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates 
 the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
 manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
 properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
 I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
 releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
 
 thank you
 
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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread McGilligan, Sean

Rachel,

From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at the
structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the Exchange 2000 world.
That aside historically, there was a huge debate on the merits of
putting exchange on a BDC.
Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it residing on a Domain controller is
not the modern thinking unless you have some rational business decision
that your organization can justify
On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right click on
the UserID and configure them to support mailing there is nothing more
to it.

Sean McGilligan
-Original Message-
From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: mailbox not creating


I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server. 
I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the
exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look
there are no mailboxes. When I go to properties for the user, it does
not show the email address. I will continue searching the faq. If anyone
knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it. 

thank you

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange 
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Hansen, Eric

Ok cool, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange 
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread McGilligan, Sean

Chris,

I would agree with you but saying Exch2k resides on a BDC.
Sounds like a configuration issue unless that was a freudian slip.

Sean McGilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


And addresses don't appear until after the RUS has applied the recipient
policy. If you wait 15 minutes does the account get an address?

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 The mailbox wont show up in the ESM until the user opens
 their mailbox for the first time or an email is sent to that user.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 1:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates 
 the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
 manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
 properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
 I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
 releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
 
 thank you
 
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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would 
 look at the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into 
 the Exchange 2000 world. That aside historically, there was a 
 huge debate on the merits of putting exchange on a BDC. Now 
 with exchange 2000 the idea of it residing on a Domain 
 controller is not the modern thinking unless you have some 
 rational business decision that your organization can justify 
 On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right 
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing 
 there is nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server. 
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates 
 the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
 manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
 properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
 I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
 releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
 
 thank you
 
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SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Ron Grant

Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the holidays.
Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user inside the
company sends a virus (marker-gen in this case) to a DL. 
Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the IS or MTA? Or
will this only be detected by the client AV solution?
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread McGilligan, Sean

Chris,

Your right.
I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and that was a
personal choice.
As long as your whole backup strategy was sound.
But people liked to debate on that, as witnessed on this list about 3
years ago.
But exchange 2000 on a domain controller especially if it has the five
roles of destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a whole
new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.

Sean mcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would
 look at the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into 
 the Exchange 2000 world. That aside historically, there was a 
 huge debate on the merits of putting exchange on a BDC. Now 
 with exchange 2000 the idea of it residing on a Domain 
 controller is not the modern thinking unless you have some 
 rational business decision that your organization can justify 
 On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right 
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing 
 there is nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates 
 the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
 manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
 properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
 I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
 releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
 
 thank you
 
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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are you
running and how is the message being sent?[1]

[1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the 
 holidays. Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. 
 What if a user inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen 
 in this case) to a DL. 
 Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the 
 IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
 solution? Thanks! Ron

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

I think it really depends on the organization in question. Certainly if I
were Sprint or BT I wouldn't have Exchange on a DC, but for other
organizations it might be appropriate. Certainly if I had my druthers, I'd
not have my FSMO roles handled by the same server...

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Chris,
 
 Your right.
 I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and 
 that was a personal choice. As long as your whole backup 
 strategy was sound. But people liked to debate on that, as 
 witnessed on this list about 3 years ago. But exchange 2000 
 on a domain controller especially if it has the five roles of 
 destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a whole 
 new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.
 
 Sean mcgilligan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a 
 BDC doesn't really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
  
  
  Rachel,
  
  From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at 
  the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the 
 Exchange 2000 
  world. That aside historically, there was a huge debate on 
 the merits 
  of putting exchange on a BDC. Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it 
  residing on a Domain controller is not the modern thinking 
 unless you 
  have some rational business decision that your organization can 
  justify On the question about users; if it set up correctly 
 you right
  click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing 
  there is nothing more to it.
  
  Sean McGilligan
  -Original Message-
  From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: mailbox not creating
  
  
  I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
  I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
  When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates
  the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
  manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
  properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
  I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
  releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
  
  thank you

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

If you have any questions at all, don't remove the server YET. Just turn it
off. Watch event logs and listen to users. You should know in a few days if
everything is kosher.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Ok cool, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Hansen, Eric

Oh absolutely.  I wont reassign the server for months.  Watch and wait.

e-

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

If you have any questions at all, don't remove the server YET. Just turn it
off. Watch event logs and listen to users. You should know in a few days if
everything is kosher.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Ok cool, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Andy David

Just stop the Exchange services on it. You don't have to wait for months!


-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Oh absolutely.  I wont reassign the server for months.  Watch and wait.

e-

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

If you have any questions at all, don't remove the server YET. Just turn it
off. Watch event logs and listen to users. You should know in a few days if
everything is kosher.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Ok cool, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
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MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Hansen, Eric

And watch my phone turn into a xmas tree.  :)

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

Just stop the Exchange services on it. You don't have to wait for months!


-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Oh absolutely.  I wont reassign the server for months.  Watch and wait.

e-

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

If you have any questions at all, don't remove the server YET. Just turn it
off. Watch event logs and listen to users. You should know in a few days if
everything is kosher.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Ok cool, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?

They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Slinger, Gary

Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


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Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Ron Grant

Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan 2nd!
*shrug*
I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described. 
Would that internal email be scanned? 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA

Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are you
running and how is the message being sent?[1]

[1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the 
 holidays. Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. 
 What if a user inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen 
 in this case) to a DL. 
 Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the 
 IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
 solution? Thanks! Ron

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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this would cause the
message to be scanned as it is written to the store (in this case it would
be as it is going into the outbox), so it would be scanned before being sent
(so who the message is addressed to wouldn't matter).

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed 
 until Jan 2nd!
 *shrug*
 I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described. 
 Would that internal email be scanned? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail 
 are you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
 
 [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the
  holidays. Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. 
  What if a user inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen 
  in this case) to a DL. 
  Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the 
  IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
  solution? Thanks! Ron

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Andy David

mm
loose goose...



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


-- 
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Manager, Operations Design and Development
CP Ships - Infrastructure Planning  Projects
Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

2001-12-31 Thread Presley, Steven

Sorry about that Martin...should have given credit where it is due  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 6:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


::Taking a bow::

-Original Message-
From: Presley, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


You should get the enterprise version. It supports saucer separation!

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Ron Grant

Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to our users. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA

If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this would cause the
message to be scanned as it is written to the store (in this case it would
be as it is going into the outbox), so it would be scanned before being sent
(so who the message is addressed to wouldn't matter).

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed 
 until Jan 2nd!
 *shrug*
 I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described. 
 Would that internal email be scanned? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail 
 are you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
 
 [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the
  holidays. Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. 
  What if a user inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen 
  in this case) to a DL. 
  Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the 
  IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
  solution? Thanks! Ron

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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

Have you checked to make sure the software is functioning properly? Try
sending through a copy of eicar.com.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to 
 our users. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this 
 would cause the message to be scanned as it is written to the 
 store (in this case it would be as it is going into the 
 outbox), so it would be scanned before being sent (so who the 
 message is addressed to wouldn't matter).
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed
  until Jan 2nd!
  *shrug*
  I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described. 
  Would that internal email be scanned? 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail
  are you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
  
  [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
  
  Chris
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   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the holidays. 
   Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user 
   inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this 
 case) to a DL.
   Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the 
   IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
   solution? Thanks! Ron
 
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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Exactly!!

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA


Try sending through a copy of eicar.com.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to
 our users. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this
 would cause the message to be scanned as it is written to the 
 store (in this case it would be as it is going into the 
 outbox), so it would be scanned before being sent (so who the 
 message is addressed to wouldn't matter).
 
 Chris
 --
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan 
  2nd!
  *shrug*
  I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described.
  Would that internal email be scanned? 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are 
  you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
  
  [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
  
  Chris
  --
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  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the holidays.
   Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user 
   inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this 
 case) to a DL.
   Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the
   IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
   solution? Thanks! Ron
 
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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Your English? I just thought you typed funny...hmmm

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


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Tampa, Florida
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UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites,
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Oops, spelling retardYOU'RE

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Your English? I just thought you typed funny...hmmm

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


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Manager, Operations Design and Development
CP Ships - Infrastructure Planning  Projects
Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 A Euro (sp?) is running about 88 cents U.S.
 
 Besides, I thought the UK wasn't going to implement the Euro.

Look at the email address. I run my Income in Ireland and France.

Anyway, if I can accept them, I may as well do so, my local Tesco's and 
Walmart do too.

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
 anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list.

That's a matter of opinion, of course.

 Your post is nothing but spam.  

I disagree. My posting is off-topic, but not spam.

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

The consensus in this list about putting Exchange on a domain controller
generally focused on two issues, load and recovery.  

A DC introduces extra load, but most small- to medium-sized
organizations wouldn't notice any difference.  This argument actually
gains weight with Windows 2000 because Active Directory uses more
cycles, though cycles are cheaper than they used to be.

Putting an Exchange Server on a DC (especially on a Windows NT PDC)
makes it take longer to recover, mainly because there are more steps.
With Windows 2000, you'll also have replication delays.

I agree with Chris that most people won't find these arguments too
compelling, but with what computers cost nowadays, having a couple of
dedicated machines for domain conrtrollers shouldn't be a big deal.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Chris,

Your right.
I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and that was a
personal choice. As long as your whole backup strategy was sound. But
people liked to debate on that, as witnessed on this list about 3 years
ago. But exchange 2000 on a domain controller especially if it has the
five roles of destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a
whole new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.

Sean mcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at 
 the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the Exchange 2000 
 world. That aside historically, there was a huge debate on the merits 
 of putting exchange on a BDC. Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it 
 residing on a Domain controller is not the modern thinking unless you 
 have some rational business decision that your organization can 
 justify On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing 
 there is nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates
 the exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system 
 manager and look there are no mailboxes. When I go to 
 properties for the user, it does not show the email address. 
 I will continue searching the faq. If anyone knows a 
 releavant article # I would appreciate it. 
 
 thank you
 
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Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Tony Hlabse

When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I told 
them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any additional 
servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their primary client and 
install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running as a 
DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current server HP 
LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about 
performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to off 
load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller and 
demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on to the 
other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable Front/Back 
end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor to 
the original server. Any comments appreciated.




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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Ron Grant

Well, that worked. I sent it through, and it blocked the extension .com. I
renamed it to no extension, and it said it couldn't be cleaned, and moved it
to  my quarantine folder. Wonder if my server hiccupped during that huge DL
email? 
Well, I learned about using eicar today...so I can go home now. :)


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA

Exactly!!

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA


Try sending through a copy of eicar.com.

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to
 our users. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this
 would cause the message to be scanned as it is written to the 
 store (in this case it would be as it is going into the 
 outbox), so it would be scanned before being sent (so who the 
 message is addressed to wouldn't matter).
 
 Chris
 --
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan 
  2nd!
  *shrug*
  I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described.
  Would that internal email be scanned? 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are 
  you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
  
  [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
  
  Chris
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   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the holidays.
   Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user 
   inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this 
 case) to a DL.
   Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used by the
   IS or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
   solution? Thanks! Ron
 
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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

I would characterize it as meeting the triple criteria:  

1. unsolicited -- We didn't ask for it and many of us find it annoying
to boot.
2. commerical -- You are explicitly selling yourself (who are you to
call others pimps?!).
3. e-mail

Hence your post qualifies as Spam.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Cummins
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have 
 anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this 
 list.

That's a matter of opinion, of course.

 Your post is nothing but spam.

I disagree. My posting is off-topic, but not spam.

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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Chris Scharff

Does 3.52 have the option to disable the avapi? I could see the mapi
scanning alone failing under DL load.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Well, that worked. I sent it through, and it blocked the 
 extension .com. I renamed it to no extension, and it said it 
 couldn't be cleaned, and moved it to  my quarantine folder. 
 Wonder if my server hiccupped during that huge DL email? 
 Well, I learned about using eicar today...so I can go home now. :)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 Exactly!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Try sending through a copy of eicar.com.
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to our 
  users.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this 
 would cause 
  the message to be scanned as it is written to the store (in 
 this case 
  it would be as it is going into the outbox), so it would be scanned 
  before being sent (so who the message is addressed to wouldn't 
  matter).
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan
   2nd!
   *shrug*
   I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described.
   Would that internal email be scanned? 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are
   you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
   
   [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
   
   Chris
   --
   Chris Scharff
   Senior Sales Engineer
   MessageOne
   If you can't measure, you can't manage!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SCanmail and MTA


Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the 
 holidays. 
Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user 
inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this
  case) to a DL.
Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used 
 by the IS 
or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
 solution? 
Thanks! Ron

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Cummins

 I would characterize it as meeting the triple criteria:  
 
 1. unsolicited -- We didn't ask for it and many of us find it annoying
 to boot.
 2. commerical -- You are explicitly selling yourself (who are you to
 call others pimps?!).
 3. e-mail
 
 Hence your post qualifies as Spam.

Ah well... someone needs to report me to my provider then.

In the meantime, if this list is so petty that people can't help their 
peers, then I'm not sure I want to be here.

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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if it
works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your recommendations
anyway.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I told

them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any
additional 
servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their primary client and

install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running
as a 
DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current server
HP 
LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about 
performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to off

load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller
and 
demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on to
the 
other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable
Front/Back 
end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor
to 
the original server. Any comments appreciated.




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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Ron Grant

Yes, it does. I just unchecked it. The DL was our Global DL, that has all
600 employees in it. Probably gave scanmail a sucker punch. :)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA

Does 3.52 have the option to disable the avapi? I could see the mapi
scanning alone failing under DL load.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Well, that worked. I sent it through, and it blocked the 
 extension .com. I renamed it to no extension, and it said it 
 couldn't be cleaned, and moved it to  my quarantine folder. 
 Wonder if my server hiccupped during that huge DL email? 
 Well, I learned about using eicar today...so I can go home now. :)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 Exactly!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Try sending through a copy of eicar.com.
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to our 
  users.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this 
 would cause 
  the message to be scanned as it is written to the store (in 
 this case 
  it would be as it is going into the outbox), so it would be scanned 
  before being sent (so who the message is addressed to wouldn't 
  matter).
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan
   2nd!
   *shrug*
   I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described.
   Would that internal email be scanned? 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are
   you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
   
   [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
   
   Chris
   --
   Chris Scharff
   Senior Sales Engineer
   MessageOne
   If you can't measure, you can't manage!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SCanmail and MTA


Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the 
 holidays. 
Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user 
inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this
  case) to a DL.
Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used 
 by the IS 
or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV 
 solution? 
Thanks! Ron

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RE: SCanmail and MTA

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Don't turn off AVAPI, or you will really be screwed the next time that
happens.
PERSONALLY, I would use AVAPI, MAPI, and Message Body Scanning, along with
Ext blocking.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA


Yes, it does. I just unchecked it. The DL was our Global DL, that has all
600 employees in it. Probably gave scanmail a sucker punch. :)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA

Does 3.52 have the option to disable the avapi? I could see the mapi
scanning alone failing under DL load.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Well, that worked. I sent it through, and it blocked the
 extension .com. I renamed it to no extension, and it said it 
 couldn't be cleaned, and moved it to  my quarantine folder. 
 Wonder if my server hiccupped during that huge DL email? 
 Well, I learned about using eicar today...so I can go home now. :)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 Exactly!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
 
 
 Try sending through a copy of eicar.com.
 
 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  
  Ok, thanks. I'm confused as to how that Marker virus to go to our
  users.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:31 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
  
  If you are using 3.52 then you are using the AVAPI, this
 would cause
  the message to be scanned as it is written to the store (in
 this case
  it would be as it is going into the outbox), so it would be scanned
  before being sent (so who the message is addressed to wouldn't 
  matter).
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:29 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   
   Ya..I called the tech line, and it said they were closed until Jan 
   2nd!
   *shrug*
   I have the 3.52 version, and its being sent as #1 described. Would 
   that internal email be scanned?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:57 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: SCanmail and MTA
   
   Trend is /closed/ for the holidays?! What version of ScanMail are 
   you running and how is the message being sent?[1]
   
   [1] Via Outlook with the Exchange service?
   
   Chris
   --
   Chris Scharff
   Senior Sales Engineer
   MessageOne
   If you can't measure, you can't manage!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SCanmail and MTA


Quick question for you all, as Trend is closed for the
 holidays.
Scan mail scans all emails coming from the IMC. What if a user
inside the company sends a virus (marker-gen in this
  case) to a DL.
Will/should scan mail pick up that virus when its used
 by the IS
or MTA? Or will this only be detected by the client AV
 solution?
Thanks! Ron

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

That, of course, is entirely your choice.

Speaking for myself, I wasn't really peeved from your plea for help
since I was blissfully unaware of your history.  I am, however, more
annoyed by your insistence on rebutting every single point whether or
not your arguments have any logical or factual merit.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Cummins
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 I would characterize it as meeting the triple criteria:
 
 1. unsolicited -- We didn't ask for it and many of us find it annoying

 to boot. 2. commerical -- You are explicitly selling yourself (who are

 you to call others pimps?!).
 3. e-mail
 
 Hence your post qualifies as Spam.

Ah well... someone needs to report me to my provider then.

In the meantime, if this list is so petty that people can't help their 
peers, then I'm not sure I want to be here.

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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Tony Hlabse

Oh I forgot to mention. It's a school district so if you have any experience 
with them then you know what fun it is. On the plus side a 4 weeks project 
is on it's 5th month.




At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if it
works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your recommendations
anyway.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I told

them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any
additional
servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their primary client and

install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running
as a
DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current server
HP
LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about
performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to off

load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller
and
demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on to
the
other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable
Front/Back
end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor
to
the original server. Any comments appreciated.




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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

My wife works for a school district. Her email hasn't worked for 3 months. I
have even offered to fix it for the whole district for free, just so I can
email her.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


Oh I forgot to mention. It's a school district so if you have any experience

with them then you know what fun it is. On the plus side a 4 weeks project 
is on it's 5th month.




At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if 
it works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your recommendations 
anyway.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I 
told

them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any 
additional servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their 
primary client and

install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running 
as a DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current 
server HP
LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about
performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to off

load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller 
and demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on 
to the
other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable
Front/Back
end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor
to
the original server. Any comments appreciated.




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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

I imagine some are better than others.  My experience is that it doesn't
matter so much as to what the organization is as it is whether the
people involved know as much as they think they do.  The least informed
customers can sometimes be the best customers if they know enough to get
out of the way!

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


Oh I forgot to mention. It's a school district so if you have any
experience 
with them then you know what fun it is. On the plus side a 4 weeks
project 
is on it's 5th month.




At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if 
it works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your recommendations

anyway.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I 
told

them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any 
additional servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their 
primary client and

install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running 
as a DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current 
server HP
LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about
performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to
off

load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller 
and demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on

to the
other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable
Front/Back
end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor
to
the original server. Any comments appreciated.




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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

2001-12-31 Thread Tony Hlabse



Their current system is Eudora (2.) something. The toughest part was getting 
all the user/group info over. There is no direct migration method. Had to 
use an import tool from Tools4ever.com to import passwords along with all 
other info. Worked like a charm. Neat tool. Could have used resource kit 
utilities but the tool was the only one I could find 2 months ago that would 
allow import of passwords into 2K.

Well it's time to go. Have a Happy New Year all.


My wife works for a school district. Her email hasn't worked for 3 months. 
I
have even offered to fix it for the whole district for free, just so I can
email her.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


Oh I forgot to mention. It's a school district so if you have any 
experience

with them then you know what fun it is. On the plus side a 4 weeks project
is on it's 5th month.



 
 At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if
 it works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your recommendations
 anyway.
 
 Ed Crowley
 Compaq Computer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone
 
 
 When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I
 told
 
 them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any
 additional servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their
 primary client and
 
 install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously is running
 as a DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current
 server HP
 LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about
 performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one another box to off
 
 load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC controller
 and demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA and SSL on
 to the
 other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable
 Front/Back
 end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another processor
 to
 the original server. Any comments appreciated.
 
 
 
 
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Re: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread John Q

I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail.
The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one for relay. I was thinking of using
Appendix H - How to configure the IIS SMTP service as a mail relay.  but
do not know how to setup POP3 other than using the EX5.5 server w/ the
mailboxes on it.
Any ideas or reading you can point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread McGilligan, Sean

Ed,

I would agree with you in principle.
But the argument doesn't stand when you talk about a product like Small
Business Server. 
They are catering for a market that doesn't accept buy hardware is
cheap, philosophy.
The people in the lower tier obviously want the toys but cannot afford
the infrastructure and we have seen the results and to be honest; some
work and some don't!.
Few thoughts and its back to the horses for courses scenario.

Sean McGilligan

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


The consensus in this list about putting Exchange on a domain controller
generally focused on two issues, load and recovery.  

A DC introduces extra load, but most small- to medium-sized
organizations wouldn't notice any difference.  This argument actually
gains weight with Windows 2000 because Active Directory uses more
cycles, though cycles are cheaper than they used to be.

Putting an Exchange Server on a DC (especially on a Windows NT PDC)
makes it take longer to recover, mainly because there are more steps.
With Windows 2000, you'll also have replication delays.

I agree with Chris that most people won't find these arguments too
compelling, but with what computers cost nowadays, having a couple of
dedicated machines for domain conrtrollers shouldn't be a big deal.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Chris,

Your right.
I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and that was a
personal choice. As long as your whole backup strategy was sound. But
people liked to debate on that, as witnessed on this list about 3 years
ago. But exchange 2000 on a domain controller especially if it has the
five roles of destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a
whole new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.

Sean mcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at
 the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the Exchange 2000 
 world. That aside historically, there was a huge debate on the merits 
 of putting exchange on a BDC. Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it 
 residing on a Domain controller is not the modern thinking unless you 
 have some rational business decision that your organization can 
 justify On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing 
 there is nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the 
 exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look 
 there are no mailboxes. When I go to properties for the user, it does 
 not show the email address. I will continue searching the faq. If 
 anyone knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it.
 
 thank you
 
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Re: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-31 Thread Kelly_Borndale


LDAP.  At my last job, we did an HTML page that searched the LDAP database
and posted the info in a table.
~
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Sybari Software
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I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to have
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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

I never talk about SBS.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Ed,

I would agree with you in principle.
But the argument doesn't stand when you talk about a product like Small
Business Server. 
They are catering for a market that doesn't accept buy hardware is
cheap, philosophy. The people in the lower tier obviously want the toys
but cannot afford the infrastructure and we have seen the results and to
be honest; some work and some don't!. Few thoughts and its back to the
horses for courses scenario.

Sean McGilligan

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


The consensus in this list about putting Exchange on a domain controller
generally focused on two issues, load and recovery.  

A DC introduces extra load, but most small- to medium-sized
organizations wouldn't notice any difference.  This argument actually
gains weight with Windows 2000 because Active Directory uses more
cycles, though cycles are cheaper than they used to be.

Putting an Exchange Server on a DC (especially on a Windows NT PDC)
makes it take longer to recover, mainly because there are more steps.
With Windows 2000, you'll also have replication delays.

I agree with Chris that most people won't find these arguments too
compelling, but with what computers cost nowadays, having a couple of
dedicated machines for domain conrtrollers shouldn't be a big deal.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Chris,

Your right.
I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and that was a
personal choice. As long as your whole backup strategy was sound. But
people liked to debate on that, as witnessed on this list about 3 years
ago. But exchange 2000 on a domain controller especially if it has the
five roles of destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a
whole new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.

Sean mcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at 
 the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the Exchange 2000 
 world. That aside historically, there was a huge debate on the merits 
 of putting exchange on a BDC. Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it 
 residing on a Domain controller is not the modern thinking unless you 
 have some rational business decision that your organization can 
 justify On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right 
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing there is 
 nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the
 exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look 
 there are no mailboxes. When I go to properties for the user, it does 
 not show the email address. I will continue searching the faq. If 
 anyone knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it.
 
 thank you
 
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RE: mailbox not creating

2001-12-31 Thread McGilligan, Sean

I never talk about the Special Boat Service either

Sean McGilligan

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 1:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


I never talk about SBS.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Ed,

I would agree with you in principle.
But the argument doesn't stand when you talk about a product like Small
Business Server. 
They are catering for a market that doesn't accept buy hardware is
cheap, philosophy. The people in the lower tier obviously want the toys
but cannot afford the infrastructure and we have seen the results and to
be honest; some work and some don't!. Few thoughts and its back to the
horses for courses scenario.

Sean McGilligan

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


The consensus in this list about putting Exchange on a domain controller
generally focused on two issues, load and recovery.  

A DC introduces extra load, but most small- to medium-sized
organizations wouldn't notice any difference.  This argument actually
gains weight with Windows 2000 because Active Directory uses more
cycles, though cycles are cheaper than they used to be.

Putting an Exchange Server on a DC (especially on a Windows NT PDC)
makes it take longer to recover, mainly because there are more steps.
With Windows 2000, you'll also have replication delays.

I agree with Chris that most people won't find these arguments too
compelling, but with what computers cost nowadays, having a couple of
dedicated machines for domain conrtrollers shouldn't be a big deal.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McGilligan,
Sean
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


Chris,

Your right.
I always thought Exchange 5.5 on a BDC wasn't an issue and that was a
personal choice. As long as your whole backup strategy was sound. But
people liked to debate on that, as witnessed on this list about 3 years
ago. But exchange 2000 on a domain controller especially if it has the
five roles of destiny; makes life interesting and NTDSUTIL takes on a
whole new meaning. I prefer the member server approach in that instance.

Sean mcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 31 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mailbox not creating


For the vast majority of organizations putting Exchange on a BDC doesn't
really matter 1 way or another IMHO. 

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: mailbox not creating
 
 
 Rachel,
 
 From your suggestion of a BDC with all due respect; I would look at
 the structure of Windows 2000 before I rushed into the Exchange 2000 
 world. That aside historically, there was a huge debate on the merits 
 of putting exchange on a BDC. Now with exchange 2000 the idea of it 
 residing on a Domain controller is not the modern thinking unless you 
 have some rational business decision that your organization can 
 justify On the question about users; if it set up correctly you right 
 click on the UserID and configure them to support mailing there is 
 nothing more to it.
 
 Sean McGilligan
 -Original Message-
 From: RACHEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 30 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: mailbox not creating
 
 
 I am trying to build my first Win2k Exch2000 server.
 I have win2k set up as a backup domain controller.
 When I create a user it goes though the part where it creates the 
 exchange mailbox, but when I go to Exchange system manager and look 
 there are no mailboxes. When I go to properties for the user, it does 
 not show the email address. I will continue searching the faq. If 
 anyone knows a releavant article # I would appreciate it.
 
 thank you
 
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Re: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Daniel Chenault

There is a KB article on removing the first server in the site. Read it and
follow it.

- Original Message -
From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: home server?



 Hi

 HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange site and I was
 wondering if Custom Recipients and Distribution Lists have a home server?
 This particular server was the first exchange server we had and most of
the
 original Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that server.
I
 cant see anything that would indicate that they have a home server like a
 mailbox does.

 Should I be concerned?

 e-

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Re: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread John Q

I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible.
I was going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that
w/ OWA and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Unless you configured a specific DL expansion server, you shouldn't have an
issue with DLs.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: home server?



Hi

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange site and I was
wondering if Custom Recipients and Distribution Lists have a home server?
This particular server was the first exchange server we had and most of the
original Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that server.  I
cant see anything that would indicate that they have a home server like a
mailbox does.  

Should I be concerned?

e-

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Bouzan

Chris,

What are the concerns about the last server in the site?  I must admit to
not ever seeing any warnings regarding this in all my education.  I only ask
because what was effectively my last server in the site was stolen a month
ago!  This is all assuming we are talking 5.5...

Regards

PBB
~ndi


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 15:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange 
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Stolen? Share this story!!

-Original Message-
From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Chris,

What are the concerns about the last server in the site?  I must admit to
not ever seeing any warnings regarding this in all my education.  I only ask
because what was effectively my last server in the site was stolen a month
ago!  This is all assuming we are talking 5.5...

Regards

PBB
~ndi


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 15:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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Re: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread John Q

Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Bouzan

Thats interesting Gary - I'm in Crawley as well!

PBB
~ndi


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


-- 
Gary K. Slinger
Manager, Operations Design and Development
CP Ships - Infrastructure Planning  Projects
Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

-- 
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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Paul Bouzan

Office break-in.  they had everthing away, PC's, server, even the dishwasher
and the kettle!

This was the last site that I had added to the WAN and ironically - feeding
into the present discussions, it was a NT4 BDC with Ex5.5!

PBB


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 18:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Stolen? Share this story!!

-Original Message-
From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


Chris,

What are the concerns about the last server in the site?  I must admit to
not ever seeing any warnings regarding this in all my education.  I only ask
because what was effectively my last server in the site was stolen a month
ago!  This is all assuming we are talking 5.5...

Regards

PBB
~ndi


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2001 15:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: home server?


They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
last server in the site.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: home server?
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
 Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
 site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and 
 Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server 
 was the first exchange server we had and most of the original 
 Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that 
 server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they 
 have a home server like a mailbox does.  
 
 Should I be concerned?

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Re: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread John Q

O.K I see where you are going. Does IMAP use the same type authentication as
POP3?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Lefkovics, William

A couple of holes?  Why not just the one needed?

IMAP: POP done right.  - Paul Robichaux



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Sorry, wasn't thinking...
993

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


A couple of holes?  Why not just the one needed?

IMAP: POP done right.  - Paul Robichaux



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

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-John Q

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Sorenson

I agree with Tom. We've been using NAV corporate (NAV for Gateways, NAV
Exchange and NAV on the desktops) for a year and have no, none, nada,
zippo outbreaks. It's performed flawlessy through bombardment of the
many viruses of 2001.

Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  
 We use NAV and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch 
 the stuff get ditched
 into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared 
 ground beef
 and you're eating wormy prime rib.
 
 I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, 
 etc.  So far, you make a good case for moving off of your 
 preferred solution.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I feel the same way. I really researched for the best 
 solution back then, and scanmail it has proven to be 
 great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens etc. We did have a 
 few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being on 
 a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I 
 can build a strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and 
 just do the server/client side solution only, that would be 
 great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for 
 them not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to 
 recover the thing! :( Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to 
 ground round Your company will be very sorry it made this 
 move. Since you already have Scanmail, there is no reason to 
 dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down on this and fight 
 it all the way to the top.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for 
 our company anti-virus protection. This is fine for server 
 and client, but I was also told we would be using NAV's 
 solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
 Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole 
 decision maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. 
 But...I turn to y'all again, as I did a few years ago for 
 info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking what kind 
 of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was 
 chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky 
 product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major 
 from the net..but y'all would know best. 
 Thanks!
 Ron
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Mood, Steve

And then SSL SMTP for outbound (to allow for forced authentication)?  

I'm going through the same thing right now trying to beef up security while
moving some servers.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


Hmmm, I don't know. But if you used IMAP with SSL, it would be encrypted, so
that wouldn't really be an issue anymore.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


O.K I see where you are going. Does IMAP use the same type authentication as
POP3?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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RE: POP3

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Use OWA w. SSL and forget everything else.

-Original Message-
From: Mood, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


And then SSL SMTP for outbound (to allow for forced authentication)?  

I'm going through the same thing right now trying to beef up security while
moving some servers.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP3


Hmmm, I don't know. But if you used IMAP with SSL, it would be encrypted, so
that wouldn't really be an issue anymore.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


O.K I see where you are going. Does IMAP use the same type authentication as
POP3?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Not off hand, but I'm sure MS has something.

IMAP is natively supported in Exch. It is just a matter of punching a couple
of holes in the FW (and closing the POP ones), then configuring mail
clients.

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


Sounds good. Not too familiar w/ it!  Let me do some reading. Anything worth
reading that you know about

-John Q

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


How about use IMAP and SSL?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I think Chris answered my question, but to answer your reply, I have a few
users who need POP3 access but they log into the server w/ the mailboxes on
it.  I would like to close this port from the outside if possible. I was
going to put another EX5.5 in the site and have users connect to that w/ OWA
and POP3. But that is still a security risk.

-John Q

P.S. The only reason I ask is that this customer stated that his friend
has 2 EX5.5 boxes and one is for mail relay and the other stores the mail
and he has users access POP3 from the other server,  I was trying to
provide a better solution

- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: POP3


Huh???

BTW, IIS is not a POP server, it is an SMTP server. It doesn't handle
mailboxes.

Lets try this from another angle. Why do your users need POP3, and why if
you insist on doing this, do you not want to use what you already have?

-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: POP3


I am looking for a way to have users use POP3 on EX5.5 but not having them
use the server that stores the mail. The enviroment has 2 EX5.5 servers, one
for relay. I was thinking of using Appendix H - How to configure the IIS
SMTP service as a mail relay.  but do not know how to setup POP3 other than
using the EX5.5 server w/ the mailboxes on it. Any ideas or reading you can
point me toward?

Thnaks,
-John Q

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Re: home server?

2001-12-31 Thread Daniel Chenault

The last one in the site as in the last one installed into the site has no
significance. The last one in the site as in there are no other servers in
the site makes it special.

- Original Message -
From: Paul Bouzan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: home server?


 Chris,

 What are the concerns about the last server in the site?  I must admit to
 not ever seeing any warnings regarding this in all my education.  I only
ask
 because what was effectively my last server in the site was stolen a month
 ago!  This is all assuming we are talking 5.5...

 Regards

 PBB
 ~ndi


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 31 December 2001 15:44
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: home server?


 They have a site, but not a server. No reason for concern unless it is the
 last server in the site.

 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!


  -Original Message-
  From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: home server?
 
 
 
  Hi
 
  HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
  Anyway... I am about to remove a server from our exchange
  site and I was wondering if Custom Recipients and
  Distribution Lists have a home server? This particular server
  was the first exchange server we had and most of the original
  Distribution Lists and Custom Recipients we made on that
  server.  I cant see anything that would indicate that they
  have a home server like a mailbox does.
 
  Should I be concerned?

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RE: MEC next year

2001-12-31 Thread Lefkovics, William

I concur. ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP
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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Jeong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MEC next year


But it's only 50 degrees these days in Chicago... I prefer Las Vegas...

Jake


- Original Message -
From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: MEC next year


 Chicago has obviously been hugely overlooked.  It must be a conspiracy.

 Drew


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RE: MEC next year

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Blackstone

Ill take Vegas! Pretty much anywhere but Los Angles

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC next year


I concur. ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Jeong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MEC next year


But it's only 50 degrees these days in Chicago... I prefer Las Vegas...

Jake


- Original Message -
From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: MEC next year


 Chicago has obviously been hugely overlooked.  It must be a 
 conspiracy.

 Drew


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RE: MEC next year

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

2½ months behind in your reading, William?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC next year


I concur. ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Jeong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MEC next year


But it's only 50 degrees these days in Chicago... I prefer Las Vegas...

Jake


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Subject: RE: MEC next year


 Chicago has obviously been hugely overlooked.  It must be a 
 conspiracy.

 Drew


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RE: MEC next year

2001-12-31 Thread Andy David

He'll get to the Top Ten of 2001 in March...


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC next year


2½ months behind in your reading, William?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:57 PM
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Subject: RE: MEC next year


I concur. ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Jeong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MEC next year


But it's only 50 degrees these days in Chicago... I prefer Las Vegas...

Jake


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 Chicago has obviously been hugely overlooked.  It must be a 
 conspiracy.

 Drew


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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Andy David

Yea, but how many of those 20 have seen you sober?


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to spend
most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK employment
situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that I
even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in below
again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks on this
list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


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Tampa, Florida
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UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list. Your
post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
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Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, 
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps, 
have something to hide?

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RE: MEC next year

2001-12-31 Thread Lefkovics, William

I coulda sent Test ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC next year


2½ months behind in your reading, William?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC next year


I concur. ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Jeong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MEC next year


But it's only 50 degrees these days in Chicago... I prefer Las Vegas...

Jake


- Original Message -
From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: MEC next year


 Chicago has obviously been hugely overlooked.  It must be a 
 conspiracy.

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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-12-31 Thread Lefkovics, William

You could delete mad.exe...

William 


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:43 AM
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Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Ed Crowley

How would one know?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Yea, but how many of those 20 have seen you sober?


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to
spend most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK
employment situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that
I even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in
below again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks
on this list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


-- 
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Manager, Operations Design and Development
CP Ships - Infrastructure Planning  Projects
Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list.
Your post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites,
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps,

have something to hide?

-- 
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Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-31 Thread Morgan, Joshua

I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to have
the personnel Data (Phone Numbers, Direct Reports, Etc..) pulled from
Exchange.
Does anyone have any recommendations or examples they may be able to forward
on?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
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RE: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-31 Thread Kevin Miller

Upgrade to win2k and use AD.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:03 AM
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Subject: Exchange and Intranet


I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to
have the personnel Data (Phone Numbers, Direct Reports, Etc..) pulled
from Exchange. Does anyone have any recommendations or examples they may
be able to forward on?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
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RE: New year, no contract

2001-12-31 Thread Jennifer Baker

Video tape and fuji film.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


How would one know?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Yea, but how many of those 20 have seen you sober?


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


Thank you Serdar - I appreciate that. 

Paul - I'm going to walk away from this one now, but with two final
clarifications: 

(a) I'm English, with an office in Crawley, West Sussex.  I happen to
spend most of my time in the US, but I'm fully cognizant of the UK
employment situation, and I have hiring influence in both countries.  

(b) I have nothing to hide.  If you search the archives, you'll see that
I even put my contact details in most of my posts.  I've added them in
below again, to make the point.  There are also more than twenty folks
on this list (a loose guess) that have met me in person.

Gary


-- 
Gary K. Slinger
Manager, Operations Design and Development
CP Ships - Infrastructure Planning  Projects
Tampa, Florida
US Office: +1-813-635-2189
UK Office: +44-1293-582778



-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract



Gary is singing the song that's in everybody's head.  He doesn't have
anything to hide and has been a very valuable contributor to this list.
Your post is nothing but spam.  

S/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


 Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites,
 or have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.

I am using the network, and some agencies as well. Under the 
circumstances, I wonder why you are protesting so much. Do you, perhaps,

have something to hide?

-- 
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