[FairfieldLife] Big Bang totally unnecessary

[TurquoiseB]

I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big
Bang, and how REEEAAALLY REEEAAALLY STOOOPID some people here think
those who don't believe in it are, because I think such people are
simply incapable of not anthropomorphizing the universe.

They have seemingly legitimate reasons for believing in a Big Bang, but
the bottom line, when you dig below the surface, is almost always either
that 1) they rely on consensus (The majority of scientists believe in
one) or 2) that they believe in the fairy tales they were told as a kid
(God created the universe, so *of course* it had a beginning).

Me, I tend to go with the approach held by many Buddhists. That is, that
no God is necessary to explain Creation because...duh...there was
never a Creation. The universe is eternal -- there has never been a time
when it did not exist; therefore the question of when it started to
exist is moot.

Fortunately, there *are* scientists who are not as hamstrung in their
theories as the ones the Big Bang Believers rely on:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rainbow-gravity-univers\
e-beginning
 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rainbow-gravity-univer\
se-beginning
I just wish that people would *get over* their need to project their
human beliefs and the very ephemerality of their human lifespans onto
the universe. Think outside the box, people. The main reason you think
that the universe has a beginning and end is because YOU have them.
Chances are the universe has no such limitations.

People who were told to believe in a God who Created the universe tend
to glom onto the Big Bang as a pseudo-scientific reason to push their
belief in God. But what these people (you listening, jr_esq?) don't seem
to realize is that if you're talking to people who believe that the
universe is eternal and never *had* a beginning, all your posturing
about what caused that beginning is just so much adolescent twaddle.

Don't think so small. Think BIG. Think eternity.

Then non-theists might actually accept that you're capable of thinking. 
:-)

[FairfieldLife] A post for Card and the other drummers here

[TurquoiseB]

Why carry your drums or drum kits around with you when you could just
wear them?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57615029-1/drumpants-put-a-whole-ban\
d-in-your-pocket/
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57615029-1/drumpants-put-a-whole-ba\
nd-in-your-pocket/

[FairfieldLife] The question every true spiritual seeker asks

[TurquoiseB]

Or at least that's what you'd think, based on the TMO marketing
approach. :-)


http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/Which-celebrities-do-this-type-of-yoga\
-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8544005_.htm?utm_medium=referralutm_source=\
NewYorkerutm_content=CartoonsAID=1247905545
http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/Which-celebrities-do-this-type-of-yog\
a-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8544005_.htm?utm_medium=referralutm_source\
=NewYorkerutm_content=CartoonsAID=1247905545

[FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

[TurquoiseB]

To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and
other con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh.
Why did Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering the root
and drawing the arrow back in the bow? Because they intuitively knew
that your mind was too stupid to tell the difference between the
metaphor/analogy/parable and reality, that's why.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_pa\
rtner/
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_p\
artner/

Re: [FairfieldLife] A post for Card and the other drummers here

[Share Long]

turq, I'm neither Carde nor a drummer so of course I HAD to read this (-: Glad 
I did, thanks for posting. What an amazing world we live in!





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:39 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Why carry your drums or drum kits around with you when you could just wear them?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57615029-1/drumpants-put-a-whole-band-in-your-pocket/
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

[Share Long]

turq, and then there's *way too meta* as defined by Rick Castle played by 
Nathan Fillion. Fun clip...





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and other 
con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. Why did 
Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering the root and drawing 
the arrow back in the bow? Because they intuitively knew that your mind was 
too stupid to tell the difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and 
reality, that's why.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

[Share Long]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-mE1ScD64Q




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:46 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
turq, and then there's *way too meta* as defined by Rick Castle played by 
Nathan Fillion. Fun clip...




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and other 
con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. Why did 
Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering the root and drawing 
the arrow back in the bow? Because they intuitively knew that your mind was 
too stupid to tell the difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and 
reality, that's why.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Earliest Subzero Temps Since 1995

[Share Long]

Richard and wgm, I thought Doc explained the phenomenon very well with the 
phrase climate destabilization. Do you think people are using these various 
phrases to do something wrong? 





On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:35 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
It's more double-speak when global cooling is actually global warming. 

On 12/10/2013 8:32 PM, wgm4u wrote:

  
Yep! definitely it's Global Cool...'er, warming!..er cooling, 'er...
 
CHICAGO (CBS) – Chicagoans were hit with the coldest December temperatures in 
nearly 20 years on Tuesday, and the Wednesday morning commute could be a 
challenge as the area will get hit with more snow. 
The last time Chicago had subzero temperatures this early in the season was 
Dec. 9, 1995. Unfortunately for Chicagoans, it won’t be long before the 
mercury is back below zero.
Chicago could see subzero temperatures again Wednesday night. Before that, 
Chicago likely will get more snow–up to 2 to 4 inches

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

[Share Long]

Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you use E15 
ha ha!





On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the EPA's 
side and the AAA's side.

It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare 
emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date 
the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems unlikely that if, as the AAA 
claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to 
cars made after 2012. (It's not a matter of post-2012 cars being 
Flex-Fuel--GM has been making Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)

Bhairitu wrote:


 A little more recent info on the  situation:
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline

 It's so funny though that the air head reporter on FOX said
  2012.

It's on their slides as 2012 as well, FWIW.

  It's vehicles before 2001.  Which might be a problem with my 1998 Forester.  
 Well, green groups can just give me a loan for  a new hybrid at a $1 down and 
 a $1 a month.  But it looks like E15 is not going to happen here in 
 California.


On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't have TV. As 
for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...






On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.


BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp


Snopes's verdict is Mixed--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts 
aren't.


Share warned:


 in case you don't already know about it:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

[Share Long]

noozguru, I like the idea as a movie plot basis. Listened to the music piece. 
Kind of reminded me of the music in 2001 A Space Odyssey.





On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
One of my favorite sci-fi films is Sunshine by Danny Boyle.  In that film the 
Sun is dying and a crew on a space craft is traveling there to launch a nuclear 
device to re-ignite it.  It's also where John Murphy's Adagio in D minor made 
it's debut.

On 12/10/2013 04:44 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
noozguru, that's definitely a vata vitiating movie. I feel cold just 
remembering some of the images in it. Good to watch in the summer. I enjoyed 
it though.

I'm thinking that humans are a part of the ecosystem. But
  maybe the diseased part!






On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:55 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
We may be enjoying The Day After Tomorrow for real.  Earth has it's own 
ecosystem correction mechanism and humans be damned!

On 12/09/2013 02:08 PM, Share Long
  wrote:

  
noozguru, I've definitely gotten more sensitive to the cold as I've gotten 
older. Even though I guess I'm still pure pitta! And of course I sit a lot 
when I'm at the computer so that doesn't help though there's a radiator only 
about 2 feet from the desk. I love to put my gloves on the radiator by the 
front door when I come in. And my socks on the radiator upstairs, especially 
if they've gotten wet. 


Wind chill is definitely a factor in windy FF. The women's Dome is up on a 
ridge and sometimes in the morning, I walk from the parking lot clutching my 
hood tightly on my head. I'm a wimp!


What I notice about Iowa weather is that it's more erratic now, more sudden 
and dramatic changes. and about 20 years ago we had snow on May 1!




On Monday, December 9, 2013 3:46 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
I just got back from my walk which I usually take in the morning but decided 
to wait until it warmed up a bit.  According to local news it is the coldest 
day so far in this cold snap.  It is in the low 40s right now but clear skies 
and sun.  At the house it felt warmer than around the corner at the park 
where apparently a wind was coming down the valley creating a wind chill.

When I first
  moved here in
  the 1990s the
  only real cold
  days were in
  January and
  might only
  last for a
  week.  Now it
  starts in
  early
  November.  I
  go from shorts
  and a t-shirt,
  skip over the
  warm-up suit
  (mainly wind
  breaker stuff)
  and to the
  flannel
  warmups.

On 12/09/2013
  12:23 PM,
  Share Long
  wrote:

  
noozguru, according to cnn weather it's currently -8 in Fairfield. But the 
sun is shining so that helps a little. Farmers Almanac, with an 86% accuracy 
rate, is predicting a winter of piercing cold. But I don't know if that's 
for all the country or just a portion.






On Monday, December 9, 2013 2:06 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
Enjoying the new ice age? It was down in the mid-20s overnight here. 
Any below 0's
  on FFL?

It's been
  almost 10
  years since
  this article
  was posted:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/02/09/360120/

More or less
  based on local
  research:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sid#39;s reply to the infamous B.Mullquist!

[Richard J. Williams]

Y.S. II. 40. The habit of cleanliness, if it is not mechanical and 
ritualistic but intelligent with an understanding of the nature of 
decaying physical organism, reveals the impure nature of the physical 
body: and, there arises disgust for the body and a disinclination for 
contact with those of others.


This sutra is almost verbatim the words of the Buddha, Shakya the Muni, 
the first historical yogin in India and pertains to the habit of 
denigrating the physical body, and matter in general, based on the idea 
of asceticism, which apparently has it's origin in South Asia. 
Patanjali, whether he is conflated with Pannini or not, is probably a 
composite character, and he is not listed in the TMer parampara, simply 
because he is not a real historical person.


The Yoga Sutras by Patanjali are generally attributed by scholars to be 
written either 200 BCE or even later. Scholars such as S.N. Dasgupta, 
claim this is the same Patanjali who authored the Mahabhasya, a treatise 
on Sanskrit grammar.


But, these yoga sutras have of course been replaced with the tantras, 
which give  details on yoga practice. So, this sutra pertains to mental 
cleanliness, not particularly physical cleanness. I mean think about it: 
compared to modern notions of cleanness, people that live in tropical 
climates, even if they bathe in the Ganges three times a day, can hardly 
be considered clean by modern standards.


Most people these days have bathrooms, toilets, running hot and cold 
water, instead of latrines, in which to deposit their night soil. 
Sitting on the ground, even if you sleep on a tiger skin, is now at all 
clean in the modern sense. And, this passage obviously doesn't refer to 
the habit of hatha yogis who use various techniques for inner cleaning 
of the body, since hatha yoga wasn't even invented until the 16th 
century. So, this passage can be pretty much neglected as so much 
prattle. Go figure.


The first time I read the Yoga Sutras I misunderstood a lot, even for a 
smart guy. However, now that I have learned how to transcend, I've put 
the right commentaries together with the correct translations and I've 
been able to understand the main idea behind the ancient Yoga System. It 
might be auspicious if we begin with a short review of where we're 
coming from.


So, let's review what we know:

Our tradition begins with the Lord Narayana, the first meditator, who 
thought the first thought and set in motion this science of sound 
vibration. In a long line of illustrious masters comes this tradition 
from Naryana, Shakti, Vasistha, Parashara, Vyasa, down to Gaudapada, 
Shankara and Brahmananda Saraswti.


According to Patanjali: Artha Yoga nusasanam. (This is instruction in 
Yoga.) - Y.S. I.1


Shakya taught meditation based on causation and demonstrated a program 
called the Eight-fold Path leading to full Enlightenment. Badarayana, 
the immediate progenitor of our sampradaya, arranged the Upanishads into 
sections called the Vedanta Sutras. And later, Yogi Vasistha composed a 
short hymn on Yoga explaining yoga in terms of non-dualism. Patanjali, 
who compiled the 'Yoga Sutras' from ancient sources around 200 BCE, 
salutes the Buddha as the wisest of men. Vyasa has written a special 
commentary on the Patanjali's Sutras for our understanding.


So, based on these compositions, we can understand the yoga praxis in 
it's entirety - a person reading the Sutras alone would probably be 
confused, since these passages have been superseded on most counts. So, 
in an effort to further our understanding, the Adi Shankaracharya has 
fortuitously prepared a very nice sub-commentary to Veda Vyasa's 
'Vivarana' on the 'Yoga Sutras of Patanjali'.


Are we agreed so far?

Patanjali says: Yoga citta vritti nirodha. (Yoga is the cessation of 
the mental turnings of the mind.) Y.S. I. 1. 2.


After learning TM practice, this sutra would not be a cause for any 
misunderstanding - it is quite clear. Cessation of thought is the goal 
of any meditation that is transcendental.


Both Sankhya and Yoga are concerned with the two principles: Purusha and 
prakriti. Prakriti is composed of the 32 Tattwas which are maintained by 
the three constituents of nature, namely the three gunas. You should 
know that the Purusha is completely and totally separate from the 
prakriti, that's why they call it the Transcendental Absolute and 
everything else, the relative. So, we have relative and the Absolute 
qualities of life, a material existence and another - which is beyond 
the forces born of nature.


The force of prakriti is called samsara, which has been compared by an 
analogy as a 'wheel', eternally in motion, with twelve spokes 
symbolizing the Twelve-fold Chain of Causation, much like the whirling 
flames as God Shiva as He does the Tandava Dance. The analogy is that of 
a fire-brand, which is a single flame, but when directed in a circular 
motion, appears to be a line of fire in one continuous loop. The wheel 
then, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[Richard J. Williams]

If you know the answer, why not just tell us where the TMer mantras come 
from and what they mean?


It is totally misleading to say that the TM mantras were made up by 
the fakir Mahesh, or lifted out of a book, or that the TM mantras are 
so much gibberish, meaningless non-sense syllables. Either put up, or 
shut up. Just be honest - if you don't know, just admit it and let's 
move on with the query.


At this point you're just a poser.

 to On 12/10/2013 11:07 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.*


*
*

*Richard trolled:*


Yeah, it's too bad we don't have free and accurate information here on 
FFL, what with some informants trying to obfuscate in the extreme, so 
we can't find out where the TM mantras really came from and what they 
really mean. This is supposed to be a spiritual help site where people 
can discuss spiritual paths and techniques in a truthful manner 
without rancor. If we could just get past the double-speak. Go figure.


...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu 
gods have perfectly good names of their own.


Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and 
dreaming?

Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm

Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).


From: authfriend
Subject: OMG: madhuauudana  definition of dhaaraNaa
Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife
Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM

ob·fus·cate

verb

verb: obfuscate; 3rd person present: obfuscates; past tense: 
obfuscated; past participle: obfuscated; gerund or present participle: 
obfuscating


1. render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.

the spelling changes will deform some familiar words and obfuscate 
their etymological origins


synonyms: obscure, confuse, make unclear, blur, muddle, complicate, 
over-complicate, muddy, cloud, befog


On 12/10/2013 8:19 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:

Re I used to sweat creating perfect Boolean search strings, but it 
almost doesn't matter any more.:



Absolutely. What leaves me astonished (and humbled) is the sheer 
scale of the free info and advice that's now available. We're talking 
about countless numbers of people who freely give of their time and 
experience to help their fellows. Quite remarkable - and surely 
unpredictable by those who assume we are all motivated only by 
self-interest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and 'Dissolute' life

[Share Long]

Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to 
both you guys...





On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, 
one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. 

We will probably never know for sure what happened between the
  participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined.
  I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY
  passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be
  contradicted. 

There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to
  denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about
  our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time
  informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this
  and other subjects. Go figure.

On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short 
take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look 
back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with 
lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. 
Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real 
hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people 
filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is 
fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one 
hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing 
attempt at some rationale in between.  
-Buck    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your 
spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go
figure.

So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of
evidence that MMY 
engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to
his relations with 
his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in
acts of a 
private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some
ankle-biters would want 
to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a
paperback book? It 
just doesn't make any sense.

It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions
of Judith 
Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson,
writes nothing 
about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining
to MMY. Judith 
was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with
Conny Larsson. 
Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to
enroll in the 
Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in
India. So, in 
Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi
and to become a 
TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.

According to Bourque, she became more than just a
student at the academy 
- she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more.
In fact, Judith 
says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the
completion of the 
course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's
private secretary, 
although Judith had exactly zero experience or training
to do 
secretarial work having no training higher than that of
a clerk, if 
that. Go figure.

So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first
at the TTC in 
Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC
1970. According 
to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on
numerous occasions 
during that time.

Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her
compensation MMY 
bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order
to cover up her 
nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner
circle', which included 
Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the
Beatles and 
after the formation of SIMS.

But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with
getting naked 
and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just
be open about it 
and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can
get closer to 
him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss
people around?

Work cited:

'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay'
By Judith Bourque
p. 34

Ned to Casey:
FairfieldLife/message/251652

Other titles of interest:

'God's Little Clown'
By Conny Larsson


On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick
shared here on FFL and 
 with me in a couple 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Richard J. Williams]

This statement of Barry's is somewhat misleading - Buddhists are not 
atheists.


Traditionally Buddhists throughout the Buddhist world consider that the 
universe contains more beings in it than are normally visible to humans. 
Buddhists have no objection to the existence of the Hindu Gods. 
Nevertheless, Buddhists can't take refuge in the gods because the gods 
are not Buddha. That is, they are not enlightened.


All the Hindu gods, for all their power, are not the final truth of 
things. Power does not necessarily entail insight, and for Buddhists the 
gods do not have the liberating insight. But, none of this entails that 
the gods do not exist or that the gods cannot exert a powerful influence 
over our lives.


Thus, the Buddhist has no problem with the gods.

References:

Buddhist Thought
by Paul Williams
Routledge, 2000

Buddhism in Practice
ed. Donald S. Lopez, Jr.
Princeton Readings in Religion, 1995

On 12/11/2013 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
*/I tend to go with the approach held by many Buddhists. That is, that 
no God is necessary to explain Creation because...duh...there was 
never a Creation./*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Earliest Subzero Temps Since 1995

[Richard J. Williams]

We have a saying around here - If you don't like the weather, just 
stick around for a day or two, and it will probably change. It is the 
nature of weather to change, that's why they call it weather. But, it 
doesn'tmake much sense to say that the climate is warming because it's 
cold outside. Anymore than Al Gore making the claim that the fires in 
Australia are the result of warmer weather. Go figure.


On 12/11/2013 6:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard and wgm, I thought Doc explained the phenomenon very well with 
the phrase climate destabilization. Do you think people are using 
these various phrases to do something wrong?




On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:35 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

It's more double-speak when global cooling is actually global warming.

On 12/10/2013 8:32 PM, wgm4u wrote:

Yep! definitely it's Global Cool...'er, warming!..er cooling, 'er...
*CHICAGO (CBS) –* Chicagoans were hit with the coldest December 
temperatures in nearly 20 years on Tuesday, and the Wednesday morning 
commute could be a challenge as the area will get hit with more snow.
The last time Chicago had subzero temperatures this early in the 
season was Dec. 9, 1995. Unfortunately for Chicagoans, it won’t be 
long before the mercury is back below zero.
Chicago could see subzero temperatures again Wednesday night. Before 
that, Chicago likely will get more snow–up to 2 to 4 inches

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and 'Dissolute' life

[Richard J. Williams]

Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, 
Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no 
basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which 
is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about 
eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just 
projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the 
only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around 
here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.


On 12/11/2013 7:10 AM, Share Long wrote:
Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. 
Thanks to both you guys...



On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is 
the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group 
for their own reasons.


We will probably never know for sure what happened between the 
participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I 
think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to 
make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted.


There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to 
denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our 
spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who 
persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. 
Go figure.


On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
*RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for 
the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of 
people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty 
large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the 
potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high 
risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will 
proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and 
deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is 
fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on 
the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate 
the writing attempt at some rationale in between. *

*-Buck *


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your
spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.

So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY
engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with
his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a
private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want
to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It
just doesn't make any sense.

It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith
Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing
about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith
was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson.
Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the
Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in
Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a
TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.

According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy
- she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith
says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the
course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary,
although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do
secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if
that. Go figure.

So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in
Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According
to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions
during that time.

Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY
bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her
nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included
Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and
after the formation of SIMS.

But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked
and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it
and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to
him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around?

Work cited:

'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay'
By Judith Bourque
p. 34

Ned to Casey:
FairfieldLife/message/251652

Other titles of interest:

'God's Little Clown'
By Conny Larsson

On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[authfriend]

You've totally lost the plot here, Share. Neither the EPA nor the AAA is saying 
(as Fox News did in the video you posted) that E15 is safe for cars made after 
2012. The issue is whether it's safe for cars made after 2001.
 

 You didn't read what Snopes.com had to say, did you?
 

 Or is it a lie to ask you that question? guffaw
 

 Share bleated:
 
  Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you use 
  E15 ha ha!
 

 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the 
EPA's side and the AAA's side.
 

 It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare 
emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date 
the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems unlikely that if, as the AAA 
claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to 
cars made after 2012. (It's not a matter of post-2012 cars being 
Flex-Fuel--GM has been making Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)
 

 Bhairitu wrote:
 
  A little more recent info on the  
 situation:
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
 It's so funny though that the air head reporter on FOX said 2012.
 

 It's on their slides as 2012 as well, FWIW.
 

   It's vehicles before 2001.  Which might be a problem with my 1998 Forester. 
   Well, green groups can just give me a loan for  a new hybrid at a $1 down 
  and a $1 a month.  But it looks like E15 is not going to happen here in 
  California.
 
 On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't have TV. 
As for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... 
authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.
 
 
 BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
 
 
 Snopes's verdict is Mixed--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts 
aren't.
 
 
 Share warned:
 
  in case you don't already know about it:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] MMY's Buddha

[Richard J. Williams]

According to MMY, the Buddha is the ninth incarnation of the Sun God, 
Vishnu, based on the Bhagavata Purana.

MMY has been very supportive of the Buddha, and apparently, judging from 
what he has written and said, Buddha,  is held by MMY in very high 
esteem. And no wonder, seeing as how the historical Buddha, that is, 
Shakya the Muni, called Gotama, is the inspiration for the entire 
enlightenment tradition in India. Not for nothing did the Adi Shankara 
take up an ochre robe fashioned from rags. Go figure.

Recorded history in India begins with the so-called Buddhist Canon, 
which was compiled one hundred years after the demise of the Master. 
This corpus of texts is the foundation for all subsequent Asian 
philosophy, to wit:

1. The enlightenment tradition - yoga.
2. The order of sramanas - adeptship.
3. The eight limbs of yoga - the eight-fold path.
4. Universal compassion, non-violence - ahimsa.
5. The Chain of Dependent Causation - moral reciprocity.
6. Zero tolerance for social hierarchy - egalitarianism.
7. Individual conservation of energy - nirvana.
8. Knowledge of relative reality - samsara.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 This statement of Barry's is somewhat misleading - Buddhists are not
 atheists.

I won't get sucked into a debate with either Richard or Empty on this. I
will only point out that trying to claim anything about What Buddhists
believe is ludicrous.

Buddhism probably has more sects than Christianity. Each of them drew
from local religions and traditions in the areas in which they sprung
up, and some of them can be as different as night and day. Even though
the historical Buddha would be as horrified by this as Jesus would be at
some of the things taught in his name, some sects even revere *him* as
almost a God. He went out of his way to keep this from happening, but it
happened anyway. Go figure.

The same is true with issues such as whether Buddhists believe in a God
or not. Many do not believe in one sentient entity who runs things,
although some sects seem to believe in sorta demi-gods who might exist
on subtle planes and run limited aspects of creation. Few Buddhists
I've ever met believe in a Creation, because they tend to believe that
the universe was never created. Thus they have no need to posit a
Creator.

That's all. Now you can go back to arguing about things you'd like to
believe can be defined well enough that someone could actually win
an argument about them.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's 
just trolling, stuff Richard made up.
 

 It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told 
falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you 
think that is?
 

 As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith 
Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys?
 

 Share pandered:
 
   Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. 
   Thanks to both you guys...  
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, 
one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. 
 
 We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants 
because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair 
that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she 
could not be be contradicted. 
 
 There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate 
our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and 
MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and 
false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure.
 
 On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
   RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the 
short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now 
look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with 
lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. 
Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real 
hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people 
filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is 
fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand 
and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at 
some rationale in between. 
 
 -Buck
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your 
 spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.
 
 So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY 
 engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with 
 his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a 
 private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want 
 to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It 
 just doesn't make any sense.
 
 It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith 
 Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing 
 about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith 
 was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. 
 Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the 
 Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in 
 Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a 
 TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.
 
 According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy 
 - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith 
 says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the 
 course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, 
 although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do 
 secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if 
 that. Go figure.
 
 So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in 
 Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According 
 to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions 
 during that time.
 
 Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY 
 bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her 
 nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included 
 Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and 
 after the formation of SIMS.
 
 But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked 
 and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it 
 and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to 
 him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around?
 
 Work cited:
 
 'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay'
 By Judith Bourque
 p. 34
 
 Ned to Casey:
 FairfieldLife/message/251652
 
 Other titles of interest:
 
 'God's Little Clown'
 By Conny Larsson
 
 On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
  The next biggest favor I ever got 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[authfriend]

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. 

 
Richard trolled:

   It is totally misleading to say that the TM mantras were made up by the 
   fakir Mahesh, or lifted out of a book, or that the TM mantras are so 
   much gibberish, meaningless non-sense syllables. Either put up, or shut 
   up. Just be honest - if you don't know, just admit it and let's move on 
   with the query.   
 
 At this point you're just a poser.
 
  to On 12/10/2013 11:07 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 
 
 Richard trolled:
 
 Yeah, it's too bad we don't have free and accurate information here on FFL, 
what with some informants trying to obfuscate in the extreme, so we can't find 
out where the TM mantras really came from and what they really mean. This is 
supposed to be a spiritual help site where people can discuss spiritual paths 
and techniques in a truthful manner without rancor. If we could just get past 
the double-speak. Go figure.
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 
 Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).
 
 From: authfriend
 Subject: OMG: madhuauudana  definition of dhaaraNaa
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife
 Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM
 
 ob·fus·cate
 
 verb
 
 verb: obfuscate; 3rd person present: obfuscates; past tense: obfuscated; past 
participle: obfuscated; gerund or present participle: obfuscating
 
 1. render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
 
 the spelling changes will deform some familiar words and obfuscate their 
etymological origins
 
 synonyms: obscure, confuse, make unclear, blur, muddle, complicate, 
over-complicate, muddy, cloud, befog 
 
 On 12/10/2013 8:19 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Re I used to sweat creating perfect Boolean search strings, but it almost 
doesn't matter any more.:
 
 
 Absolutely. What leaves me astonished (and humbled) is the sheer scale of the 
free info and advice that's now available. We're talking about countless 
numbers of people who freely give of their time and experience to help their 
fellows. Quite remarkable - and surely unpredictable by those who assume we are 
all motivated only by self-interest.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

[Richard J. Williams]

You've got to understand, Share, that you're dialoging with a gal that 
doesn't own a motor vehicle and probably never has or even knows how to 
operate one. Go figure.


The E15 fuel contains contains 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline. 
Conventional internal combustion engines restricts the use of ethenol to 
low mixtures because ethanol is corrosive and can cause a degradation in 
the materials in the engine and in the fuel system. But, some engines 
can be adjusted for a higher compression ratio and to allow for an 
improved fuel efficiency and for a reduction in the tailpipe emissions.


The EPA allows up to 15% of ethanol to be blended with gasoline in 
vehicles 2007or later. The EPA now allows the use of 15% to be used in 
vehicles 2001 to 2006 for passenger cars in the U.S. But, the EPA says 
that this ratio is not suitable for motorcycles or heavy-duty trucks.


Here is how you can tell if your vehicle is a Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV):

http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/



On 12/11/2013 6:38 AM, Share Long wrote:
Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you 
use E15 ha ha!




On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both 
the EPA's side and the AAA's side.*

*
*
*It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the 
viral scare emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of 
confusion with the date the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems 
unlikely that if, as the AAA claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 
2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to cars made after 2012. (It's not a 
matter of post-2012 cars being Flex-Fuel--GM has been making 
Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)*

*
*
*Bhairitu wrote:*

 A little more recent info on the situation:
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline

 It's so funny though that the air head reporter on FOX said 2012.

*It's on their slides as 2012 as well, FWIW.*

  It's vehicles before 2001.  Which might be a problem with my 1998 
Forester.  Well, green groups can just give me a loan for  a new 
hybrid at a $1 down and a $1 a month.  But it looks like E15 is not 
going to happen here in California.


On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:

Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't 
have TV. As for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...




On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.

BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp

Snopes's verdict is Mixed--parts of the E15 scare story are true, 
parts aren't.


Share warned:

 in case you don't already know about it:
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU**

*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Earliest Subzero Temps Since 1995

[authfriend]

Nobody is saying The climate is warming because it's cold outside. What some 
(including most climate scientists) are saying is that the fact of extreme 
low-temperature events locally or even regionally is not evidence against 
global warming. Such events are what one would expect to see with global 
warming.
 

 And here's what Al Gore says:
 

 FORMER US vice-president and climate change campaigner Al Gore has told ABC's 
7.30 Report that Australia's leaders are in denial about climate change

 

 Mr Gore conceded that bushfires did happen naturally, but said global warming 
would cause them to be more severe, and more regular. 
 

 'Bushfires can occur naturally and do, but the science shows clearly when the 
temperature goes up and vegetation and soils dry out that wildfires become more 
pervasive and dangerous,' he said.
 

 'That's not me saying it, that's what the scientific community says.'
 

 Read more:
 

 
 
http://www.news-mail.com.au/news/al-gore-says-global-warming-will-increase-bushfire/2062284/
 
http://www.news-mail.com.au/news/al-gore-says-global-warming-will-increase-bushfire/2062284/

 

 Richard trolled:
 
   We have a saying around here - If you don't like the weather, just stick 
   around for a day or two, and it will probably change. It is the nature of 
   weather to change, that's why they call it weather. But, it doesn'tmake 
   much sense to say that the climate is warming because it's cold outside. 
   Anymore than Al Gore making the claim that the fires in Australia are the 
   result of warmer weather. Go figure.   
 
 On 12/11/2013 6:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Richard and wgm, I thought Doc explained the phenomenon very well with the 
phrase climate destabilization. Do you think people are using these various 
phrases to do something wrong? 
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:35 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
   
 It's more double-speak when global cooling is actually global warming. 
 
 On 12/10/2013 8:32 PM, wgm4u wrote:
 
   Yep! definitely it's Global Cool...'er, warming!..er cooling, 'er...
  
 CHICAGO (CBS) – Chicagoans were hit with the coldest December temperatures in 
nearly 20 years on Tuesday, and the Wednesday morning commute could be a 
challenge as the area will get hit with more snow. 
 The last time Chicago had subzero temperatures this early in the season was 
Dec. 9, 1995. Unfortunately for Chicagoans, it won’t be long before the mercury 
is back below zero.
 Chicago could see subzero temperatures again Wednesday night. Before that, 
Chicago likely will get more snow–up to 2 to 4 inches
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

[Richard J. Williams]

MMY and other teachers use metaphors because they parallel the actual 
mechanics of nature - all human excrement always flows downstream. And, 
because the transcendental field can't be described in words. Maybe your 
mind is too stupid to understand that the world of relativity works 
because of cause and effect.


For example, at night we think we see a snake in the backyard, but in 
the daylight, we see it was a coiled up rope. That's the way the mind 
works - things are not always just the way they seem. In dreams you may 
see a hare's horn; a barren woman's son, or a thief in the night, but 
these are just dreams. In reality everyone knows that hare's don't have 
horns; that there's no such thing as a barren woman having a son; and 
that a fence post is not a real thief.


analogy is just like a zen koan - it's purpose is to wake you up from 
the dream.


On 12/11/2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers 
and other con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? 
Duh. Why did Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering 
the root and drawing the arrow back in the bow? Because they 
intuitively knew that your mind was too stupid to tell the difference 
between the metaphor/analogy/parable and reality, that's why.


http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 Richard trolled:
 
   Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, 
   Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no 
   basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is 
   supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating 
   sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her 
   own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of 
   MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell 
   as far as I'm concerned.  

 

[FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[awoelflebater]

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 You've got to understand, Share, that you're dialoging with a gal that doesn't 
own a motor vehicle and probably never has or even knows how to operate one. Go 
figure.
 

 Poor Ricky, of course he must surely realize that owning a motor vehicle or 
not has absolutely nothing to do with how much one knows about motor vehicles. 
The average owner can barely figure out how to check their own oil let alone 
change it. But that is not stopping him making the usual rude remarks about 
Judy as if we were all idiots.
 
 The E15 fuel contains contains 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline. Conventional 
internal combustion engines restricts the use of ethenol to low mixtures 
because ethanol is corrosive and can cause a degradation in the materials in 
the engine and in the fuel system. But, some engines can be adjusted for a 
higher compression ratio and to allow for an improved fuel efficiency and for a 
reduction in the tailpipe emissions.
 
 The EPA allows up to 15% of ethanol to be blended with gasoline in vehicles 
2007or later. The EPA now allows the use of 15% to be used in vehicles 2001 to 
2006 for passenger cars in the U.S. But, the EPA says that this ratio is not 
suitable for motorcycles or heavy-duty trucks.
 
 Here is how you can tell if your vehicle is a Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV):
 
 http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/ http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/
 
 
 
 On 12/11/2013 6:38 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you use 
E15 ha ha!
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... 
authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the 
EPA's side and the AAA's side.
 
 
 It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare 
emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date 
the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems unlikely that if, as the AAA 
claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to 
cars made after 2012. (It's not a matter of post-2012 cars being 
Flex-Fuel--GM has been making Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)
 
 
 Bhairitu wrote:
 
  A little more recent info on the  situation:
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
  It's so funny though that the air head reporter on FOX said 2012.
 
 
 It's on their slides as 2012 as well, FWIW.
 
 
   It's vehicles before 2001.  Which might be a problem with my 1998 Forester. 
   Well, green groups can just give me a loan for  a new hybrid at a $1 down 
  and a $1 a month.  But it looks like E15 is not going to happen here in 
  California.
 
 On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't have TV. 
As for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... 
authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.
 
 
 BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
 
 
 Snopes's verdict is Mixed--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts 
aren't.
 
 
 Share warned:
 
  in case you don't already know about it:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Richard J. Williams]

It should be noted that Barry is the author of this thread, and that he 
sucks, when it comes to describing what Buddhists believe. Everyone 
knows that Buddhas are supernatural beings, not real people that can 
fly up in the air like Rama supposedly did.


All Buddhist believe in Buddhas - there's no denying this fact, 
otherwise they would not call themselves Buddhists. Buddhists don't 
believe in a creation, but at the same time they don't believe that 
something can come out of nothing.


For an effect there has to be a cause. The Buddha taught Causation - 
everything that happens, happens for a reason - there are no chance 
events. Buddhists the world over believe in supernatural beings, but 
Buddhist don't believe these entities to be Buddhas - there are no 
enlightened beings in heaven, because the gods are not enlightened. Go 
figure.


On 12/11/2013 7:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 This statement of Barry's is somewhat misleading - Buddhists are not
 atheists.

/*I won't get sucked into a debate with either Richard or Empty on 
this. I will only point out that trying to claim anything about What 
Buddhists believe is ludicrous.


Buddhism probably has more sects than Christianity. Each of them drew 
from local religions and traditions in the areas in which they sprung 
up, and some of them can be as different as night and day. Even though 
the historical Buddha would be as horrified by this as Jesus would be 
at some of the things taught in his name, some sects even revere 
*him* as almost a God. He went out of his way to keep this from 
happening, but it happened anyway. Go figure.


The same is true with issues such as whether Buddhists believe in a 
God or not. Many do not believe in one sentient entity who runs 
things, although some sects seem to believe in sorta demi-gods who 
might exist on subtle planes and run limited aspects of creation. 
Few Buddhists I've ever met believe in a Creation, because they tend 
to believe that the universe was never created. Thus they have no need 
to posit a Creator.


That's all. Now you can go back to arguing about things you'd like to 
believe can be defined well enough that someone could actually win 
an argument about them.  :-)



*/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have it. 
Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled 
skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. Nobody 
has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, that's the 
bottom line.


It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no 
TMer, that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and 
just ignore her. That's what I think, and I've read every book about MMY 
that has ever been published, Judy has not.


On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. 
That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up.



It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having 
told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit 
to. Why do you think that is?



As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read 
Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys?



Share pandered:


  Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. 
Thanks to both you guys... 



On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams 
punditster@... wrote:
By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is 
the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group 
for their own reasons.


We will probably never know for sure what happened between the 
participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I 
think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to 
make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted.


There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to 
denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our 
spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who 
persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. 
Go figure.


On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@...
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

*RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for 
the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of 
people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty 
large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the 
potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high 
risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will 
proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and 
deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is 
fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on 
the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate 
the writing attempt at some rationale in between. *

*-Buck *


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your
spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.

So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY
engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with
his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a
private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want
to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It
just doesn't make any sense.

It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith
Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing
about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith
was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson.
Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the
Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in
Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a
TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.

According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy
- she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith
says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the
course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary,
although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do
secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if
that. Go figure.

So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in
Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According
to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions
during that time.

Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY
bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her
nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included
Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and
after the formation of SIMS.

But, the real question is: Is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[Richard J. Williams]

The term 'Internet troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in 
heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of 
Internet etiquette.


On 12/11/2013 8:10 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.



Richard trolled:

  It is totally misleading to say that the TM mantras were made up 
by the fakir Mahesh, or lifted out of a book, or that the TM mantras 
are so much gibberish, meaningless non-sense syllables. Either put up, 
or shut up. Just be honest - if you don't know, just admit it and 
let's move on with the query.  


At this point you're just a poser.

 to On 12/10/2013 11:07 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:


*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here
(except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed
refutation, let me know.*

*
*

*Richard trolled:*


Yeah, it's too bad we don't have free and accurate information
here on FFL, what with some informants trying to obfuscate in the
extreme, so we can't find out where the TM mantras really came
from and what they really mean. This is supposed to be a
spiritual help site where people can discuss spiritual paths and
techniques in a truthful manner without rancor. If we could just
get past the double-speak. Go figure.

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The
Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own.

Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep
and dreaming?
Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm

Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities
(whatever nicknames means in this context).

From: authfriend
Subject: OMG: madhuauudana  definition of dhaaraNaa
Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife
Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM

ob·fus·cate

verb

verb: obfuscate; 3rd person present: obfuscates; past tense:
obfuscated; past participle: obfuscated; gerund or present
participle: obfuscating

1. render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.

the spelling changes will deform some familiar words and
obfuscate their etymological origins

synonyms: obscure, confuse, make unclear, blur, muddle,
complicate, over-complicate, muddy, cloud, befog

On 12/10/2013 8:19 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@...
wrote:


Re I used to sweat creating perfect Boolean search strings, but
it almost doesn't matter any more.:


Absolutely. What leaves me astonished (and humbled) is the sheer
scale of the free info and advice that's now available. We're
talking about countless numbers of people who freely give of
their time and experience to help their fellows. Quite
remarkable - and surely unpredictable by those who assume we are
all motivated only by self-interest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure.

On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.*


*
*

*Richard trolled:*


  Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, 
Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, 
there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read 
Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, 
it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is 
probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it 
for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the 
ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.  

[FairfieldLife] Ah, Mother India...home of enlightened behavior

[TurquoiseB]

The land of enlightenment, where being gay is a crime:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/india-court-homosexuality-rulin\
g_n_4423496.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/india-court-homosexuality-ruli\
ng_n_4423496.html

Where rapists go free:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/delhi-rape-one-conviction-706-c\
ases-2012_n_4419374.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/delhi-rape-one-conviction-706-\
cases-2012_n_4419374.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rape-cases-delhi-molestation-do\
uble-2013_n_4181789.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rape-cases-delhi-molestation-d\
ouble-2013_n_4181789.html

Where using a toilet if you're a woman is a risk to your life:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/toilets-india-women_n_4303236.h\
tml
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/toilets-india-women_n_4303236.\
html

Where you can be killed in an honor killing for...wait for
it...eloping:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/india-honor-killing-man-beheade\
d-woman-beaten-to-death_n_3952927.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/india-honor-killing-man-behead\
ed-woman-beaten-to-death_n_3952927.html

Where child marriage is so common that the country fights the UN to keep
it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/india-child-marriage-un-resolut\
ion-sponsor_n_4108408.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/india-child-marriage-un-resolu\
tion-sponsor_n_4108408.html

And where everything is peace, love, and Heaven On Earth:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/15/india-missile-test_n_3931001.ht\
ml
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/15/india-missile-test_n_3931001.h\
tml

Sure helps you to understand why Fairfield is such a mess, doesn't it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[Richard J. Williams]

Well, it sure helps if you read your car owner's manual. LoL!

On 12/11/2013 8:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Poor Ricky, of course he must surely realize that owning a motor 
vehicle or not has absolutely nothing to do with how much one knows 
about motor vehicles. The average owner can barely figure out how to 
check their own oil let alone change it. But that is not stopping him 
making the usual rude remarks about Judy as if we were all idiots.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[awoelflebater]

Oh Barry, how you really hate the human race. You are constantly irritated and 
upset by how stupid everyone is and how different you are from the rest of the 
blathering, naive masses. The mere idea that you espouse of there having been 
no creation or creator and that those who believe in such silliness are simply 
too pathetic to live is giving me my first chuckle of the day. That is like 
saying the beer you buy at your local bar had no creator, was not created, 
always existed because by the time you get to your table and order it it just 
magically appears from some back room. You weren't there to witness the 
brewing, you didn't see who harvested the hops or who put it all in a big vat 
or who bottled it but you are drinking it nevertheless at that very moment just 
like you are living life at this very moment. You weren't there at the 
beginning of that either just like you weren't there for the brewing of the 
beer so what makes them different? It is like anyone who believes in some 
higher force or, horror of horrors, God makes them in some way simpletons. The 
inability to conceive of creation before it existed or to somehow be able to 
hold the possibility of a personal or even impersonal God in one's imagination 
or heart is the sign, IMO, of a very stunted, very poor man indeed. I don't 
need science or religion to tell me what is what. My experiences on this planet 
and, perhaps, elsewhere have allowed me glimpses of such a thing as a creator 
and what animates that force.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[awoelflebater]

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure.
 

 Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky?
 Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...
 
 On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 
 
 Richard trolled:
 
   Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, 
   Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no 
   basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is 
   supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating 
   sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her 
   own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of 
   MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell 
   as far as I'm concerned.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[awoelflebater]

FYI, nobody reads car owners manuals. Especially men.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What#39;s a meta for, anyway?

[authfriend]

From now on, Barry, we will expect to see no metaphors in your posts, lest 
folks suspect you're a con man trying to mislead them because you know they're 
too stupid to tell the difference between metaphor and reality.
 

 Hope eschewing metaphors doesn't, er, cramp your style.
 

 Thibodeau recommends giving more thought to the metaphors you use and hear, 
especially when the stakes are high. 'Ask in what ways does this metaphor seem 
apt and in what ways does this metaphor mislead,' he says.
 

 Barry proclaimed:
 
   To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and 
   other con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. 
   Why did Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering the root 
   and drawing the arrow back in the bow? Because they intuitively knew 
   that your mind was too stupid to tell the difference between the 
   metaphor/analogy/parable and reality, that's why.  
 

 http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 (Except that you ought to be able to tell just from reading what I've said and 
what he says.)
 

 Richard trolled:
 
   If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have it. 
   Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled 
   skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. Nobody 
   has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, that's the 
   bottom line.
 
 It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no TMer, 
that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and just ignore her. 
That's what I think, and I've read every book about MMY that has ever been 
published, Judy has not.   
 
 On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's 
just trolling, stuff Richard made up.
 
 
 It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told 
falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you 
think that is?
 
 
 As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith 
Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys?
 
 
 Share pandered:
 
   Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. 
   Thanks to both you guys...  
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
   
 By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, 
one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. 
 
 We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants 
because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair 
that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she 
could not be be contradicted. 
 
 There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate 
our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and 
MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and 
false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure.
 
 On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
   RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the 
short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now 
look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with 
lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. 
Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real 
hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people 
filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is 
fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand 
and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at 
some rationale in between. 
 
 -Buck
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your 
 spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.
 
 So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY 
 engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with 
 his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a 
 private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want 
 to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It 
 just doesn't make any sense.
 
 It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith 
 Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing 
 about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith 
 was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. 
 Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the 
 Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in 
 Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a 
 TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.
 
 According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy 
 - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith 
 says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the 
 course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, 
 although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do 
 secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if 
 that. Go figure.
 
 So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in 
 Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According 
 to Bourque, she had sexual 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India...home of enlightened behavior

[authfriend]

That would be Fairfield, India, right?
 

 Barry babbled:
 

   The land of enlightenment, where being gay is a crime:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/india-court-homosexuality-ruling_n_4423496.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/india-court-homosexuality-ruling_n_4423496.html
 

Where rapists go free:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/delhi-rape-one-conviction-706-cases-2012_n_4419374.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/delhi-rape-one-conviction-706-cases-2012_n_4419374.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rape-cases-delhi-molestation-double-2013_n_4181789.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rape-cases-delhi-molestation-double-2013_n_4181789.html
 

Where using a toilet if you're a woman is a risk to your life:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/toilets-india-women_n_4303236.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/toilets-india-women_n_4303236.html 

Where you can be killed in an honor killing for...wait for it...eloping:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/india-honor-killing-man-beheaded-woman-beaten-to-death_n_3952927.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/india-honor-killing-man-beheaded-woman-beaten-to-death_n_3952927.html
 

Where child marriage is so common that the country fights the UN to keep it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/india-child-marriage-un-resolution-sponsor_n_4108408.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/india-child-marriage-un-resolution-sponsor_n_4108408.html
 

And where everything is peace, love, and Heaven On Earth:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/15/india-missile-test_n_3931001.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/15/india-missile-test_n_3931001.html 

Sure helps you to understand why Fairfield is such a mess, doesn't it?   

[FairfieldLife] For those who loved Breaking Bad...

[TurquoiseB]

Here's an interesting article about the round-table discussion held the
other night in which the writers got to talk about their process, and
what made the series so great.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-polman/breaking-brilliant-notes-_b_43\
88462.html?utm_hp_ref=tvir=TV
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-polman/breaking-brilliant-notes-_b_4\
388462.html?utm_hp_ref=tvir=TV

[FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[awoelflebater]

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 The term 'Internet troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated 
debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet 
etiquette.
 

 It certainly takes one to know one Dick. You have been giving a perfect 
impression of one for quite a few weeks now. The funny thing is, once in a 
while you actually write a post that is good reading but all the stuff in 
between is like this little kid in the corner going nah, nah, ne, nah, nah.
 
 On 12/11/2013 8:10 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. 
 
 
 Richard trolled:
 
   It is totally misleading to say that the TM mantras were made up by the 
   fakir Mahesh, or lifted out of a book, or that the TM mantras are so 
   much gibberish, meaningless non-sense syllables. Either put up, or shut 
   up. Just be honest - if you don't know, just admit it and let's move on 
   with the query.   
 
 At this point you're just a poser.
 
  to On 12/10/2013 11:07 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 
 
 Richard trolled:
 
 Yeah, it's too bad we don't have free and accurate information here on FFL, 
what with some informants trying to obfuscate in the extreme, so we can't find 
out where the TM mantras really came from and what they really mean. This is 
supposed to be a spiritual help site where people can discuss spiritual paths 
and techniques in a truthful manner without rancor. If we could just get past 
the double-speak. Go figure.
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 
 Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever 
nicknames means in this context).
 
 From: authfriend
 Subject: OMG: madhuauudana  definition of dhaaraNaa
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife
 Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM
 
 ob·fus·cate
 
 verb
 
 verb: obfuscate; 3rd person present: obfuscates; past tense: obfuscated; past 
participle: obfuscated; gerund or present participle: obfuscating
 
 1. render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
 
 the spelling changes will deform some familiar words and obfuscate their 
etymological origins
 
 synonyms: obscure, confuse, make unclear, blur, muddle, complicate, 
over-complicate, muddy, cloud, befog 
 
 On 12/10/2013 8:19 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Re I used to sweat creating perfect Boolean search strings, but it almost 
doesn't matter any more.:
 
 
 Absolutely. What leaves me astonished (and humbled) is the sheer scale of the 
free info and advice that's now available. We're talking about countless 
numbers of people who freely give of their time and experience to help their 
fellows. Quite remarkable - and surely unpredictable by those who assume we are 
all motivated only by self-interest.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[TurquoiseB]

See what I mean about minds too small to conceive of eternity?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Oh Barry, how you really hate the human race. You are constantly
irritated and upset by how stupid everyone is and how different you are
from the rest of the blathering, naive masses. The mere idea that you
espouse of there having been no creation or creator and that those who
believe in such silliness are simply too pathetic to live is giving me
my first chuckle of the day. That is like saying the beer you buy at
your local bar had no creator, was not created, always existed because
by the time you get to your table and order it it just magically appears
from some back room. You weren't there to witness the brewing, you
didn't see who harvested the hops or who put it all in a big vat or who
bottled it but you are drinking it nevertheless at that very moment just
like you are living life at this very moment. You weren't there at the
beginning of that either just like you weren't there for the brewing of
the beer so what makes them different? It is like anyone who believes in
some higher force or, horror of horrors, God makes them in some way
simpletons. The inability to conceive of creation before it existed or
to somehow be able to hold the possibility of a personal or even
impersonal God in one's imagination or heart is the sign, IMO, of a very
stunted, very poor man indeed. I don't need science or religion to tell
me what is what. My experiences on this planet and, perhaps, elsewhere
have allowed me glimpses of such a thing as a creator and what animates
that force.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ah, Mother India...home of enlightened behavior

[Richard J. Williams]

This post is just blatant racism, in my opinion. We're not too big on 
racial profiling where I live. It's wrong to group people into classes 
based on their birth circumstances, just for the purpose of winning a 
debate with Judy.


That might be acceptable in Barry's neighborhood, but it doesn't fly 
with me.


Fewer than 10,000 generations separate everyone alive today from the 
small group of Africans who are our common ancestors. That's much more 
than the twenty or so generations mentioned in Genesis, but it's the 
blink of an eye in evolutionary terms.


On 12/11/2013 8:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


The land of enlightenment, where being gay is a crime:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/india-court-homosexuality-ruling_n_4423496.html 



Where rapists go free:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/delhi-rape-one-conviction-706-cases-2012_n_4419374.html 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rape-cases-delhi-molestation-double-2013_n_4181789.html 



Where using a toilet if you're a woman is a risk to your life:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/toilets-india-women_n_4303236.html 



Where you can be killed in an honor killing for...wait for it...eloping:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/india-honor-killing-man-beheaded-woman-beaten-to-death_n_3952927.html 



Where child marriage is so common that the country fights the UN to 
keep it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/india-child-marriage-un-resolution-sponsor_n_4108408.html 



And where everything is peace, love, and Heaven On Earth:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/15/india-missile-test_n_3931001.html 



Sure helps you to understand why Fairfield is such a mess, doesn't it?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

Well, c'mon now, Ann, it's not as if Barry ever suggested that mainstream 
science was any more than adolescent twaddle. I mean, he's been rock-solid 
consistent about mainstream science having its head up its ass, just like the 
rest of us. Can't call him a hypocrite on that score, no siree bob.
 
Ann observed:

   Oh Barry, how you really hate the human race. You are constantly irritated 
   and upset by how stupid everyone is and how different you are from the 
   rest of the blathering, naive masses. The mere idea that you espouse of 
   there having been no creation or creator and that those who believe in 
   such silliness are simply too pathetic to live is giving me my first 
   chuckle of the day. That is like saying the beer you buy at your local bar 
   had no creator, was not created, always existed because by the time you 
   get to your table and order it it just magically appears from some back 
   room. You weren't there to witness the brewing, you didn't see who 
   harvested the hops or who put it all in a big vat or who bottled it but 
   you are drinking it nevertheless at that very moment just like you are 
   living life at this very moment. You weren't there at the beginning of 
   that either just like you weren't there for the brewing of the beer so 
   what makes them different? It is like anyone who believes in some higher 
   force or, horror of horrors, God makes them in some way simpletons. The 
   inability to conceive of creation before it existed or to somehow be able 
   to hold the possibility of a personal or even impersonal God in one's 
   imagination or heart is the sign, IMO, of a very stunted, very poor man 
   indeed. I don't need science or religion to tell me what is what. My 
   experiences on this planet and, perhaps, elsewhere have allowed me 
   glimpses of such a thing as a creator and what animates that force.   

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 Richard trolled:
 

   Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. 

 
 On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 
 
 Richard trolled:
 
   Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, 
   Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no 
   basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is 
   supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating 
   sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her 
   own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of 
   MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell 
   as far as I'm concerned.  
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Earliest Subzero Temps Since 1995

[Richard J. Williams]

This is fraud and junk science. Bush fires are nature's way of 
preventing future fires by burning off the bushes that may trigger 
future fires. In fact, bush fires have been part of Australian life for 
centuries, long before the Industrial Revolution and the sale of the 
first sports utility vehicle. In fact, global temperatures have 
apparently flat-lined for the past 15 years. Go figure.


On 12/11/2013 8:19 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
global warming would cause them to be more severe, and more regular. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[doctordumbass]

I couldn't have put it better myself, Richard - A brilliant example! :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: What#39;s a meta for, anyway?

[doctordumbass]

LOL - You find evidence of the weakness of your own mind, and insist we all 
share the same affliction! 
Typical.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't 
so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a 
place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley 
or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi 
skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback 
book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey.


On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:





---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure.

Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky?
Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...

On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.*


*
*

*Richard trolled:*


  Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are 
Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've 
read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to 
read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my 
opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, 
she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so 
be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest 
of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm 
concerned.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Christmas canceled due to Global 'Warming', nyuk!

[Mike Dixon]

Geez , all he needed were green fatigues, a cigar and speak in Spanish and I 
would have sworn that was Fidel!




On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:47 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr2LCTdIzd4#t=40
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INjjEzSTfIg
   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck.
 

 Lord, you have been our dwelling place
 throughout all generations.
 Before the mountains were born

 or you brought forth the earth and the world,
 from everlasting to everlasting you are God.
 You turn men back to dust,

 saying, “Return to dust, O sons of men.”
 For a thousand years in your sight

 are like a day that has just gone by,
 or like a watch in the night.--Psalm 90:1-4
 

 The gracious, eternal god permits the spirit to green and bloom and to bring 
forth the most marvelous fruit, surpassing anything a tongue can express and a 
heart conceive.--Johannes Tauler (1300-1361)
 

 Pain and foolishness lead to great bliss and complete knowledge, for Eternal 
Wisdom created nothing under the sun in vain.--Khalil Gibran
 

 A truer image of the world, I think, is obtained by picturing things as 
entering into the stream of time from an eternal world outside, than from a 
view which regards time as the devouring tyrant of all that is.--Bertrand 
Russell
 
 

 

 Barry steps in it again:
 
   See what I mean about minds too small to conceive of eternity?  

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

 Oh Barry, how you really hate the human race. You are constantly irritated 
 and upset by how stupid everyone is and how different you are from the rest 
 of the blathering, naive masses. The mere idea that you espouse of there 
 having been no creation or creator and that those who believe in such 
 silliness are simply too pathetic to live is giving me my first chuckle of 
 the day. That is like saying the beer you buy at your local bar had no 
 creator, was not created, always existed because by the time you get to your 
 table and order it it just magically appears from some back room. You weren't 
 there to witness the brewing, you didn't see who harvested the hops or who 
 put it all in a big vat or who bottled it but you are drinking it 
 nevertheless at that very moment just like you are living life at this very 
 moment. You weren't there at the beginning of that either just like you 
 weren't there for the brewing of the beer so what makes them different? It is 
 like anyone who believes in some higher force or, horror of horrors, God 
 makes them in some way simpletons. The inability to conceive of creation 
 before it existed or to somehow be able to hold the possibility of a personal 
 or even impersonal God in one's imagination or heart is the sign, IMO, of a 
 very stunted, very poor man indeed. I don't need science or religion to tell 
 me what is what. My experiences on this planet and, perhaps, elsewhere have 
 allowed me glimpses of such a thing as a creator and what animates that force.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[Richard J. Williams]

Speak for yourself, but I've read probably a hundred owner's manuals - 
anyone who wants to understand their vehicle's operation can buy a 
Chilton's manual at Auto Zone or on Amazon. Reading an owner's manual is 
what intelligent people do when they buy a car.


On 12/11/2013 8:46 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


FYI, nobody reads car owners manuals. Especially men.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[s3raphita]

Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big Bang, 
and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't believe in 
it are,:
 

 I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are in 
*believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which don't 
require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to grips with 
dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs again. I'd 
love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the sheepish looks on 
the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel truth.
 

[FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

[emptybill]

Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness? Did he 
just make it up? 

The professor just repeated a few descriptions without answering the question. 
Anyone else know?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The question every true spiritual seeker asks

[Mike Dixon]

Second question... how much does it cost?




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:55 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
  
  
Or at least that's what you'd think, based on the TMO marketing approach. :-)


http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/Which-celebrities-do-this-type-of-yoga-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8544005_.htm?utm_medium=referralutm_source=NewYorkerutm_content=CartoonsAID=1247905545
 
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

If anyone wants to discuss my private sex life they can be addressing me 
directly. Judy should keep her pie hole shut about what other people do, 
or don't do, in their own bedroom, even if they don't have a bedroom, or 
a bathroom, or a tiger skin, or a picture of SBS hanging on the wall. If 
Judy wants to reveal her own sexual proclivities, if there are any, she 
can say whatever she wants to say about them. But, probably NOBODY 
cares, and that's the bottom line (no pun intended).


 On 12/11/2013 8:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.



(Except that you ought to be able to tell just from reading what I've 
said and what he says.)



Richard trolled:


  If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have 
it. Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled 
skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. 
Nobody has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, 
that's the bottom line.


It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no 
TMer, that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and 
just ignore her. That's what I think, and I've read every book about 
MMY that has ever been published, Judy has not.  


On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. 
That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up.



It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your 
having told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse 
to admit to. Why do you think that is?



As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read 
Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys?



Share pandered:


  Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. 
Thanks to both you guys... 



On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is 
the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group 
for their own reasons.


We will probably never know for sure what happened between the 
participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I 
think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to 
make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted.


There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to 
denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our 
spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who 
persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other 
subjects. Go figure.


On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@...
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

*RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks 
for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a 
lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some 
pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the 
potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high 
risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts 
will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people 
filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you 
write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between 
complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. 
Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in 
between. *

*-Buck *


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with 
your

spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.

So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that 
MMY
engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations 
with

his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a
private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want
to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback 
book? It

just doesn't make any sense.

It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith
Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing
about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith
was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson.
Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the
Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in
Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a
TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.

According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the 
academy
- she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India...home of enlightened behavior

[doctordumbass]

LOL - I am so happy to see Barry challenging himself with new horizons, now 
that, It Is Time, as he recently proclaimed. ...sounds bored to death, the 
poor thing.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the strongest 
supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also well knows, you can't 
buy it at a newsstand in Jersey.
 
Richard trolled:

   Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't so 
   busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a 
   place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley 
   or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi 
   skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback 
   book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey.  
 
 On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
   
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure.
 
 
 Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky?
 Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[sharelong60]

Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 so 
I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the car 
makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to Snopes 
LOL.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What to Do When China Nukes the U.S.

[Share Long]

But emptybill, they didn't really tell us what to do! Except basically not to 
believe these stories and or look for who really might be spreading them. Ok, I 
guess that's something!





On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:36 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
http://dailyreckoning.com/what-to-do-when-china-nukes-the-u-s/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[authfriend]

ROTFL. Obviously, Share hasn't read what Snopes has to say.
 

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp

 

 It didn't occur to her to wonder where I got the information I put in my post 
about the warranties.
 

 Share shoots herself in the foot, again:
 
   Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 
   so I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the 
   car makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to 
   Snopes LOL.   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[doctordumbass]

You can buy a Chilton's manual to *understand* how your car works - but, unless 
Chilton's has improved -a lot- over the last ten years, to actually *fix* your 
car, you need the mfrs. service manuals.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[doctordumbass]

God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck.

Love it! This would be awesome, stitched into a sampler, with a border of roses 
around it - excellent!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[authfriend]

Ooops, sorry, I misread. It's Gail Treadwell's book about Amma he's talking 
about here, not Judith Bourque's book about her and Maharishi. My bad.
 

 I wrote:

 Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the strongest 
supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also well knows, you can't 
buy it at a newsstand in Jersey.
 
Richard trolled:

   Rick, the owner of this site, would 
 probably be the first, if he wasn't so busy with other things, to complain 
about Gail's book. There may be a place to discuss the private sex life of 
others, like in a bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay 
and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on 
a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey.  

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[Richard J. Williams]

Thanks for the compliments, but I don't really have much to say about 
what other people wear - my main concern is what I'm wearing. Today I am 
wearing denims, Wranglers; a western belt, brown; a Van Heusen long 
sleeved dress shirt, white; and cowboy boots, brown (not shiny, but 
rough); and no hat.


However, yesterday on the way home from the gym, I saw four what 
appeared to be homeless persons. One was sitting in a wheelchair in a 
downtown doorway with what looked like a serape over her shoulders; 
another guy was sleeping under a pile of army blankets, so I don't know 
exactly what he was wearing; and a bag lady I saw was wearing an 
overcoat with fake fur on the collar, pushing a shopping basket around, 
stacked high with what looked like junk obtained from a dumpster.


I wanted to pull over and tell  them about the new Haven for Humanity 
just ten blocks away, but I didn't bother because at the shelter, you 
can't sleep all day, smoke, drink, do drugs, and you have to follow a 
twelve-step program and get a job to support yourself so you can get 
your own place. Go figure.


On 12/11/2013 8:53 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

The term 'Internet troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in 
heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant 
of Internet etiquette.


It certainly takes one to know one Dick. You have been giving a 
perfect impression of one for quite a few weeks now. The funny thing 
is, once in a while you actually write a post that is good reading but 
all the stuff in between is like this little kid in the corner going 
nah, nah, ne, nah, nah.


On 12/11/2013 8:10 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.



Richard trolled:

  It is totally misleading to say that the TM mantras were made 
up by the fakir Mahesh, or lifted out of a book, or that the TM 
mantras are so much gibberish, meaningless non-sense syllables. 
Either put up, or shut up. Just be honest - if you don't know, just 
admit it and let's move on with the query.  


At this point you're just a poser.

 to On 12/10/2013 11:07 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:


*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here
(except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed
refutation, let me know.*

*
*

*Richard trolled:*


Yeah, it's too bad we don't have free and accurate information
here on FFL, what with some informants trying to obfuscate in
the extreme, so we can't find out where the TM mantras really
came from and what they really mean. This is supposed to be a
spiritual help site where people can discuss spiritual paths and
techniques in a truthful manner without rancor. If we could just
get past the double-speak. Go figure.

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The
Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own.

Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep
and dreaming?
Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm

Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities
(whatever nicknames means in this context).

From: authfriend
Subject: OMG: madhuauudana  definition of dhaaraNaa
Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife
Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM

ob·fus·cate

verb

verb: obfuscate; 3rd person present: obfuscates; past tense:
obfuscated; past participle: obfuscated; gerund or present
participle: obfuscating

1. render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.

the spelling changes will deform some familiar words and
obfuscate their etymological origins

synonyms: obscure, confuse, make unclear, blur, muddle,
complicate, over-complicate, muddy, cloud, befog

On 12/10/2013 8:19 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@...
wrote:


Re I used to sweat creating perfect Boolean search
strings, but it almost doesn't matter any more.:


Absolutely. What leaves me astonished (and humbled) is the
sheer scale of the free info and advice that's now available.
We're talking about countless numbers of people who freely give
of their time and experience to help their fellows. Quite
remarkable - and surely unpredictable by those who assume we
are all motivated only by self-interest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Richard J. Williams]

Buddhists don't believe in eternity, that would be considered an 
extreme view. Buddhists follow the Middle Way, believing neither in the 
extremes of eternalism or annihilationism. Buddhists ascribe to the view 
of dependent origination - everything happens for a reason - and that 
emptiness transcends opposite statements about existence.


On 12/11/2013 8:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/See what I mean about minds too small to conceive of eternity?

/*--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

 Oh Barry, how you really hate the human race. You are constantly 
irritated and upset by how stupid everyone is and how different you 
are from the rest of the blathering, naive masses. The mere idea that 
you espouse of there having been no creation or creator and that those 
who believe in such silliness are simply too pathetic to live is 
giving me my first chuckle of the day. That is like saying the beer 
you buy at your local bar had no creator, was not created, always 
existed because by the time you get to your table and order it it just 
magically appears from some back room. You weren't there to witness 
the brewing, you didn't see who harvested the hops or who put it all 
in a big vat or who bottled it but you are drinking it nevertheless at 
that very moment just like you are living life at this very moment. 
You weren't there at the beginning of that either just like you 
weren't there for the brewing of the beer so what makes them 
different? It is like anyone who believes in some higher force or, 
horror of horrors, God makes them in some way simpletons. The 
inability to conceive of creation before it existed or to somehow be 
able to hold the possibility of a personal or even impersonal God in 
one's imagination or heart is the sign, IMO, of a very stunted, very 
poor man indeed. I don't need science or religion to tell me what is 
what. My experiences on this planet and, perhaps, elsewhere have 
allowed me glimpses of such a thing as a creator and what animates 
that force.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

[Share Long]

Emptybill, my guess is that Maharishi was speaking from his own experience and 
the experience of those around him.





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness? Did he 
just make it up? 

The professor just repeated a few descriptions without answering the question. 
Anyone else know?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

If you've read Gail's book, what's on page 89?

On 12/11/2013 9:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.



Richard trolled:


  Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go 
figure.  


On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.*


*
*

*Richard trolled:*


  Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are 
Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've 
read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to 
read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my 
opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, 
she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so 
be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest 
of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm 
concerned.  

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[doctordumbass]

Yeah, the whole Big Bang theory is based on the measurement of cosmic 
background radiation, similar to tuning a satellite dish, and staying away from 
the earth noise. 
 So, we've built instruments to measure the background radiation, out there. 
We have reached a point of measurement, where, the background radiation, drops 
to nearly nothing. Because that location is furthest away from us, we conclude 
that, there is nothing beyond it, and then theorize, using the speed of light 
as a constant, that everything here, came from there, and is accelerating away 
from that point.
 Now we also recognize that 96% of the matter in the universe, is invisible. 
wtf?

 

 The Big Bang starts to look like the Big Bluff, doesn't it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[doctordumbass]

Don't be hard on them - it is a sin to see homeless people in this country - 
Here, in Silicon Valley, one of the wealthiest places on earth, we had seven 
homeless people freeze to death, last week. We have the fifth largest homeless 
population, of any county in the US. I recall helping out the beggars who came 
to our door, in Indonesia, and I never, ever expected to see such grinding 
poverty, here in the US - what a crime.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Share Long]

But Richard, do Buddhists believe in ONE supreme being?





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:29 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
It should be noted that Barry is the author of this thread, and that he sucks, 
when it comes to describing what Buddhists believe. Everyone knows that 
Buddhas are supernatural beings, not real people that can fly up in the air 
like Rama supposedly did. 

All Buddhist believe in Buddhas - there's no denying this fact,
  otherwise they would not call themselves Buddhists. Buddhists
  don't believe in a creation, but at the same time they don't
  believe that something can come out of nothing. 

For an effect there has to be a cause. The Buddha taught Causation
  - everything that happens, happens for a reason - there are no
  chance events. Buddhists the world over believe in supernatural
  beings, but Buddhist don't believe these entities to be Buddhas -
  there are no enlightened beings in heaven, because the gods are
  not enlightened. Go figure.

On 12/11/2013 7:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 This statement of Barry's is somewhat misleading -
  Buddhists are not 
 atheists.

I won't get sucked into a debate with either Richard or Empty on this. I will 
only point out that trying to claim anything about What Buddhists believe is 
ludicrous. 

Buddhism probably has more sects than Christianity.
Each of them drew from local religions and
traditions in the areas in which they sprung up, and
some of them can be as different as night and day.
Even though the historical Buddha would be as
horrified by this as Jesus would be at some of the
things taught in his name, some sects even revere
*him* as almost a God. He went out of his way to
keep this from happening, but it happened anyway. Go
figure. 

The same is true with issues such as whether
Buddhists believe in a God or not. Many do not
believe in one sentient entity who runs things,
although some sects seem to believe in sorta
demi-gods who might exist on subtle planes and
run limited aspects of creation. Few Buddhists
I've ever met believe in a Creation, because they
tend to believe that the universe was never created.
Thus they have no need to posit a Creator. 

That's all. Now you can go back to arguing about
things you'd like to believe can be defined well
enough that someone could actually win an argument
about them.  :-)


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

[Richard J. Williams]

MMY probably either heard his teacher recite the Upanishads or he read 
about it the Hindu scriptures. All the Upanishad thinkers were 
transcendentalists. The various states of consciousness is a common 
typology known all over India. According to Swami Rama and Swami 
Bhaktivedanta, the various states of consciousness are enumerated in the 
Vedanta scriptures, such as the Mandukya - it's only twelve verses - you 
should read it sometime. There's no reason to make stuff up when it's 
already made up and written down for all to see. Go figure. It's not 
complicated.


On 12/11/2013 9:28 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of 
consciousness? Did he just make it up?


The professor just repeated a few descriptions without answering the 
question. Anyone else know?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India...home of enlightened behavior

[Richard J. Williams]

It is a fact that Barry has never set foot in Mother India.

On 12/11/2013 9:30 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


LOL - I am so happy to see Barry challenging himself with new 
horizons, now that, It Is Time, as he recently proclaimed. ...sounds 
bored to death, the poor thing.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

If Curtis were here, he would almost certainly note that what may seem to us 
laypeople to be common sense (e,g., the mass of 
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars couldn't possibly have been squashed 
into a point) is not a reliable basis for evaluating scientific theories.
 

 After all, if it were, we would be fully justified in immediately tossing 
quantum mechanics onto the trash heap, along with Darwinian evolution.
 

 (Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it, 'But how can 
it be like that?' because you will get 'down the drain,' into a blind alley 
from which nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can be like 
that.--Richard Feynman on quantum mechanics)
 

 In any case, scientists don't usually tell us the Big Bang theory is the 
gospel truth. Rather, they say it's the best theory we have currently.
 
Seraphita wrote:

   Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
   Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
   believe in it are,:
 

 I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are in 
*believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which don't 
require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to grips with 
dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs again. I'd 
love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the sheepish looks on 
the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel truth.  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sid's reply to the infamous B.Mullquist!

[Share Long]

Richard, thanks, this is wonderful. BUT! I've heard Maharishi explain that at 
the deepest level of reality, Purusha IS Prakriti. 





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Y.S. II. 40. The habit of cleanliness, if it is not mechanical and ritualistic 
but intelligent with an understanding of the nature of decaying physical 
organism, reveals the impure nature of the physical body: and, there arises 
disgust for the body and a disinclination for contact with those of others.

This sutra is almost verbatim the words of the Buddha, Shakya the
  Muni, the first historical yogin in India and pertains to the
  habit of denigrating the physical body, and matter in general,
  based on the idea of asceticism, which apparently has it's origin
  in South Asia. Patanjali, whether he is conflated with Pannini or
  not, is probably a composite character, and he is not listed in
  the TMer parampara, simply because he is not a real historical
  person. 

The Yoga Sutras by Patanjali are generally attributed by scholars
  to be written either 200 BCE or even later. Scholars such as S.N.
  Dasgupta, claim this is the same Patanjali who authored the
  Mahabhasya, a treatise on Sanskrit grammar.

But, these yoga sutras have of course been replaced with the
  tantras, which give  details on yoga practice. So, this sutra
  pertains to mental cleanliness, not particularly physical
  cleanness. I mean think about it: compared to modern notions of
  cleanness, people that live in tropical climates, even if they
  bathe in the Ganges three times a day, can hardly be considered
  clean by modern standards. 

Most people these days have bathrooms, toilets, running hot and
  cold water, instead of latrines, in which to deposit their night
  soil. Sitting on the ground, even if you sleep on a tiger skin, is
  now at all clean in the modern sense. And, this passage obviously
  doesn't refer to the habit of hatha yogis who use various
  techniques for inner cleaning of the body, since hatha yoga wasn't
  even invented until the 16th century. So, this passage can be
  pretty much neglected as so much prattle. Go figure.

The first time I read the Yoga Sutras I misunderstood a lot, even
  for a smart guy. However, now that I have learned how to
  transcend, I've put the right commentaries together with the
  correct translations and I've been able to understand the main
  idea behind the ancient Yoga System. It might be auspicious if we
  begin with a short review of where we're coming from. 

So, let's review what we know: 

Our tradition begins with the Lord Narayana, the first meditator,
  who thought the first thought and set in motion this science of
  sound vibration. In a long line of illustrious masters comes this
  tradition from Naryana, Shakti, Vasistha, Parashara, Vyasa, down
  to Gaudapada, Shankara and Brahmananda Saraswti.

According to Patanjali: Artha Yoga nusasanam. (This is
  instruction in Yoga.) - Y.S. I.1

Shakya taught meditation based on causation and demonstrated a
  program called the Eight-fold Path leading to full Enlightenment.
  Badarayana, the immediate progenitor of our sampradaya, arranged
  the Upanishads into sections called the Vedanta Sutras. And later,
  Yogi Vasistha composed a short hymn on Yoga explaining yoga in
  terms of non-dualism. Patanjali, who compiled the 'Yoga Sutras'
  from ancient sources around 200 BCE, salutes the Buddha as the
  wisest of men. Vyasa has written a special commentary on the
  Patanjali's Sutras for our understanding. 

So, based on these compositions, we can understand the yoga praxis
  in it's entirety - a person reading the Sutras alone would
  probably be confused, since these passages have been superseded on
  most counts. So, in an effort to further our understanding, the
  Adi Shankaracharya has fortuitously prepared a very nice
  sub-commentary to Veda Vyasa's 'Vivarana' on the 'Yoga Sutras of
  Patanjali'.

Are we agreed so far?

Patanjali says: Yoga citta vritti nirodha. (Yoga is the
  cessation of the mental turnings of the mind.) Y.S. I. 1. 2. 

After learning TM practice, this sutra would not be a cause for
  any misunderstanding - it is quite clear. Cessation of thought is
  the goal of any meditation that is transcendental.

Both Sankhya and Yoga are concerned with the two principles:
  Purusha and prakriti. Prakriti is composed of the 32 Tattwas which
  are maintained by the three constituents of nature, namely the
  three gunas. You should know that the Purusha is completely and
  totally separate from the prakriti, that's why they call it the
  Transcendental Absolute and everything else, the relative. So, we
  have relative and the Absolute qualities of life, a material
   

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life

[Richard J. Williams]

As you well know, Rick does not approve of Gail's book slamming Amma. 
And, as you well know, you have not read Gail's book; or Nancy's book; 
or Paul's book; or Helen's book; or Mia's book. Why you read Judith's 
book is known only to you - prurient interest I am guessing. And, stop 
the fibbing - you have not been to every news stand in Jersey. Go figure.


On 12/11/2013 9:31 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the 
strongest supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also 
well knows, you can't buy it at a newsstand in Jersey.*


*
Richard trolled:
*
  Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he 
wasn't so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There 
may be a place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a 
bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and 
lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here 
based on a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey.  


On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:





---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure.

Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky?
Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[Share Long]

Doc, thanks for this, for the compassion. And for the hard fact of what 
happened last week, seven people freezing to death there in Silicon Valley. 
More than sobering...





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:58 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
  
Don't be hard on them - it is a sin to see homeless people in this country - 
Here, in Silicon Valley, one of the wealthiest places on earth, we had seven 
homeless people freeze to death, last week. We have the fifth largest homeless 
population, of any county in the US. I recall helping out the beggars who came 
to our door, in Indonesia, and I never, ever expected to see such grinding 
poverty, here in the US - what a crime.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

[Duveyoung]

In Indonesia, I drove along a canal for about an hour at highway speeds.  I 
never lost sight of cardboard shanties or the 100,000 people that lived inside 
them and  drank that canal's water.   Never saw that canal, actually, because 
it was clogged with garbage.

A career for those folks was standing in the middle of the road and stopping 
traffic for 15 cents so that you could make a left turn.

Don't any dare tell me Indonesia has no grinding poverty.

Country run by generals still with dirt roads in DOWNTOWN Jakarta.  

Edg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:

  Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of
the Big Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those
who don't believe in it are,:


  I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous
people are in *believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point
when there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory
which don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to
get to grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up
for grabs again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just
to see the sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us
it was gospel truth.

I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen
Hawking and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God
was the banger. :-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi,
admittedly) who suggests that no such concept as God is necessary to
explain the universe, or even the fairly simple belief that the universe
has no beginning or end. I honestly think that many of the knee-jerkers
can't get past their indoctrination early in life that there IS a God,
damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz God said so, in one of
those books He wrote. :-)

Me, I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no God or
intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find
the silly notion that it was all created by a God. But then again, I
have no need to believe that there is a Plan or a Reason for all of
this -- for the universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am
completely comfortable with it all being a form of chaotic controlled
folly, reality being determined by nothing more (or less) than the
combined sentience of all sentient beings in the universe.

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just
did) when someone believes something different than they believe. And
when they get their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out.

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to
happen to people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about. 
:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[Richard J. Williams]

Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she 
would believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. Certainly, 
she wouldn't believe anything you have to say about any vehicle, since 
you probably don't even have a driver's license or know how to drive a 
car, truck, bus, or even a Vespa scooter. Go figure.


On 12/11/2013 9:37 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*ROTFL. Obviously, Share hasn't read what Snopes has to say.*

*
*

*http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
*


It didn't occur to her to wonder where I got the information I put in 
my post about the warranties.



*Share shoots herself in the foot, again:*


  Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in 
Feb 2006 so I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was 
one of the car makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses 
E15! All glory to Snopes LOL.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[Richard J. Williams]

It doesn't even take a Chilton's manual to find out if you can use 
ethanol in your car and what mixture. Just ask your service station guy 
or anyone at Pep Boys.


On 12/11/2013 9:38 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


You can buy a Chilton's manual to *understand* how your car works - 
but, unless Chilton's has improved -a lot- over the last ten years, to 
actually *fix* your car, you need the mfrs. service manuals.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

[Share Long]

Richard, I really like Snopes but you're right. I'd trust my owner's manual 
more.  Now if only I would sit down and read it! 





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:12 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she would 
believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. Certainly, she wouldn't 
believe anything you have to say about any vehicle, since you probably don't 
even have a driver's license or know how to drive a car, truck, bus, or even a 
Vespa scooter. Go figure.

On 12/11/2013 9:37 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
ROTFL. Obviously, Share hasn't read what Snopes has to say.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp



It didn't occur to her to wonder where I got the information I put in my post 
about the warranties.


Share shoots herself in the foot, again:


  Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 
  so I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the 
  car makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to 
  Snopes LOL.   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

Maybe Share would make him one. ;-)
 

 DoctorDumbass opined:
 
(I wrote:)
 
 God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck.

Love it! This would be awesome, stitched into a sampler, with a border of roses 
around it - excellent!

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

[Share Long]

But Richard, we see a snake in the backyard because our brain, especially the 
primitive area, is hardwired to see danger and thus protect us from that. 
Waking up from the dream may only be a case of the activity of our brain shifts 
mainly to the front area. thanks, turq, good article.




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:21 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
MMY and other teachers use metaphors because they parallel the actual mechanics 
of nature - all human excrement always flows downstream. And, because the 
transcendental field can't be described in words. Maybe your mind is too stupid 
to understand that the world of relativity works because of cause and effect. 

For example, at night we think we see a snake in the backyard, but
  in the daylight, we see it was a coiled up rope. That's the way
  the mind works - things are not always just the way they seem. In
  dreams you may see a hare's horn; a barren woman's son, or a thief
  in the night, but these are just dreams. In reality everyone knows
  that hare's don't have horns; that there's no such thing as a
  barren woman having a son; and that a fence post is not a real
  thief. 

analogy is just like a zen koan - it's purpose is to wake you up
  from the dream.

On 12/11/2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  
To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and other 
con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. Why did 
Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to watering the root and drawing 
the arrow back in the bow? Because they intuitively knew that your mind was 
too stupid to tell the difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and 
reality, that's why.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[authfriend]

Read the Snopes page too, while you're at it. Then maybe you can stop 
compulsively shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Share smarmed:

   Richard, I really like Snopes but you're right. I'd trust my owner's 
   manual more.  Now if only I would sit down and read it!  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Share Long]

Well, I thought it was a very tantric comment so I'd probably use the yin yang 
symbol rather than roses! And it kind of made turq the father of God!





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Maybe Share would make him one. ;-)

DoctorDumbass opined:

(I wrote:)


God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck.

Love it! This would be awesome, stitched into a sampler, with a border of roses 
around it - excellent!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

[Share Long]

Richard, Maharishi was a huge proponent of combining intellectual understanding 
with direct experience. So I still say what he wrote about 7 states was based 
on his own experience and that of others he knew.





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:01 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
MMY probably either heard his teacher recite the Upanishads or he read about it 
the Hindu scriptures. All the Upanishad thinkers were transcendentalists. The 
various states of consciousness is a common typology known all over India. 
According to Swami Rama and Swami Bhaktivedanta, the various states of 
consciousness are enumerated in the Vedanta scriptures, such as the Mandukya - 
it's only twelve verses - you should read it sometime. There's no reason to 
make stuff up when it's already made up and written down for all to see. Go 
figure. It's not complicated.

On 12/11/2013 9:28 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness? Did he 
just make it up? 

The professor just repeated a few descriptions without
  answering the question. Anyone else know?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

Actually, it isn't what you believe that's the problem. It's your thought-free, 
scornful dismissal of the beliefs of others (as in this and your earlier posts 
today). 
 

 Barry, panties well twisted, lashes out:
 
   But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just 
   did) when someone believes something different than they believe. And when 
   they get their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out.
 

 It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen 
to people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)  
 

 Says Barry, ignoring it. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Share Long]

Wow, turq, what the heck do you mean by: a form of chaotic controlled folly, 
reality being determined by nothing more (or less) than the combined 
sentience of all sentient beings in the universe. 



On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:11 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:

  Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
  Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
  believe in it are,: 
 
 
  I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are 
 in *believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
 there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which 
 don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to 
 grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs 
 again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the 
 sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel 
 truth.

I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen Hawking 
and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God was the banger. 
:-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
admittedly) who suggests
 that no such concept as God is necessary to explain the universe, or even 
the fairly simple belief that the universe has no beginning or end. I honestly 
think that many of the knee-jerkers can't get past their indoctrination early 
in life that there IS a God, damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz 
God said so, in one of those books He wrote. :-)

Me, I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no God or 
intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find the silly 
notion that it was all created by a God. But then again, I have no need to 
believe that there is a Plan or a Reason for all of this -- for the 
universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am completely comfortable with it 
all being a form of chaotic controlled folly, reality being determined by 
nothing more (or less) than the combined sentience of all sentient beings in 
the universe. 

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just did) 
when someone believes something different than they believe. And when they get 
their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out. 

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen to 
people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[Share Long]

I mean, turq, maybe this is what God is really, the combined sentience, etc. 
BTW, yahoo is being wonky today so if I take to long to write a reply, it 
refreshes all by itself!





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:41 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Wow, turq, what the heck do you mean by: a form of chaotic controlled folly, 
reality being determined by nothing more (or less) than the combined 
sentience of all sentient beings in the universe. 



On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:11 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:

  Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
  Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
  believe in it are,: 
 
 
  I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are 
 in *believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
 there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which 
 don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to 
 grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs 
 again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the 
 sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel 
 truth.

I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen Hawking 
and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God was the banger. 
:-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
admittedly) who suggests
 that no such concept as God is necessary to explain the universe, or even 
the fairly simple belief that the universe has no beginning or end. I honestly 
think that many of the knee-jerkers can't get past their indoctrination early 
in life that there IS a God, damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz 
God said so, in one of those books He wrote. :-)

Me, I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no God or 
intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find the silly 
notion that it was all created by a God. But then again, I have no need to 
believe that there is a Plan or a Reason for all of this -- for the 
universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am completely comfortable with it 
all being a form of chaotic controlled folly, reality being determined by 
nothing more (or less) than the combined sentience of all sentient beings in 
the universe. 

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just did) 
when someone believes something different than they believe. And when they get 
their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out. 

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen to 
people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

 While I'm at it:
 

   I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
   admittedly) who suggests that no such concept as God is necessary to 
   explain the universe, or even the fairly simple belief that the universe 
   has no beginning or end. I honestly think that many of the knee-jerkers 
   can't get past their indoctrination early in life that there IS a God, 
   damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz God said so, in one of 
   those books He wrote. :-)  

 

 Many folks don't believe in the Big Bang because of religious indoctrination 
but rather think it's probably correct because of all the scientific evidence 
for it (many of the Big Bang's scientific proponents, FWIW, are themselves 
atheists).
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

[authfriend]

Richard pooped:
 

   Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she 
   would believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle.   
 

 FAIL. Richard hasn't read the Snopes article either.

[FairfieldLife] My book of Fairfield and Vedic City Photographs

[Rick Archer]

You can see the entire book online, at the link below:

 

Guy Harvey's letter to JoBeth

 

As you know this year I published my book of Fairfield and Vedic City
photographs - a result of a 5 year photographic journey.

 

I'd be grateful if you share this with any fans of Fairfield and that might
be looking for a local holiday gift. This coupon BLURBGIFT-1 gives 20% off.

 

Preview all 43 color plates here including the Golden Dome, Global Country
flag and 16 images of Vedic City

 

 
http://www.blurb.com/books/4366323-fairfield-iowa-and-vedic-city-a-color-im
age-galler
http://www.blurb.com/books/4366323-fairfield-iowa-and-vedic-city-a-color-ima
ge-galler

 

Thanks for you encouragement of my art work. Wishing you a lovely holiday. 

 

 

Best wishes,

Guy

 

-- 

Guy Harvey

Inspiration - Social Marketing - Photography

Positive vibrations for an awakening world

http://inspirationandlight.com

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bron-Broen, season 2

[Bhairitu]

Have you seen Berberian Sound Studio?  It was added just yesterday on 
Netflix.  I saw it listed earlier in the summer in the before theaters 
section of VUDU. It's a film about a sound engineer who goes to work on 
an Italian horror film.  It stars Toby Jones as the engineer.  He played 
Alfred Hitchcock in a recent HBO film.  The story gets surreal but I 
think the film was an excuse to show the interesting way Italian horror 
film makers created their films, especially that they used motor only 
sync and had to dub dialog in the studio. I watched it last night.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Berberian_Sound_Studio/70260473

The AVelLinkplayer2 was a showpiece for the Sigma Designs chipset that 
got used in a lot of BD players.  I visited their headquarters a little 
north of Milpitas back in the 1990s when they showed my company what 
they were doing with MPEG decoders. The main problem with the AVel was 
they used a cheap DVD drive in it so it would sometimes hang on a DVD.  
Some of the users replaced it with a better LiteOn drive but by the time 
I got around to it that drive was no longer available.


DailyMotion is a French company based in Paris.  They annoyingly put ads 
every 5 minutes on some of their videos but they do steam nicely in 720p 
over Chromecast.



On 12/10/2013 09:22 PM, ultrarishi wrote:


I did watch season 1 of Bron on Youtube on my XBox.  The second season 
I torrented since I could not find it on youtube and was not familiar 
with using the DailyMotion. For safety sake, I  use a VPN and download 
from some outlet in another country.  Also, I had to wait about 3 days 
after I captured the video before someone would upload English 
subtitles.  When I had the subs, I then played the files thru VLC, the 
greatest video app ever!



I get great film and television suggestions from you folks here and 
constantly surprise my wife with what I find. Sometimes, I find 
something only I enjoy, like Bron or Luther or Orphan Black.



I also had an AVelLinkplayer2 which gave great service for a few years 
in spite of its cheap build quality.  Region Free players are a life 
saver for the film buff.  I remember ordering The Battle of Britain on 
region 2 because the regions 1 disc was mono, whilst the region 2 
pressing had the roadshow stereo track.  This was corrected years 
later for region 1 represssings, but I had moved on.



Since we are cable cutterz, most of what we see non-disc related is 
either streamed via UMS to the PS3 or Xbox, or from Amazon Prime and 
Netflix on those devices.  Also, I use Windows Media Center with a USB 
HDTV stick to record OTA programs (mostly PBS stuff like Nova).

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

[authfriend]

It's a bit more complicated than that, actually. The Wikipedia article is a 
good starting point:
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

 

 And dark matter is still just inferential; we haven't yet been able to 
identify any dark matter particles.
 

 No, the Big Bang doesn't really look like the Big Bluff. At this point, it 
looks like a theory that requires refinement to account for some apparent 
anomalies. Way too early to say whether that can be accomplished.
 

 DoctorDumbass wrote:

   Yeah, the whole Big Bang theory is based on the measurement of cosmic 
   background radiation, similar to tuning a satellite dish, and staying away 
   from the earth noise. 
 So, we've built instruments to measure the background radiation, out there. 
We have reached a point of measurement, where, the background radiation, drops 
to nearly nothing. Because that location is furthest away from us, we conclude 
that, there is nothing beyond it, and then theorize, using the speed of light 
as a constant, that everything here, came from there, and is accelerating away 
from that point.
 Now we also recognize that 96% of the matter in the universe, is invisible. 
wtf?

 

 The Big Bang starts to look like the Big Bluff, doesn't it?  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bron-Broen, season 2

[Bhairitu]

The Trans Pacific Partnership has a bunch of draconian shit that the 
Hollywood fascists want.  I think the DRM industry has them believing 
they are losing billions when they really aren't.  There's actually no 
way to know how much is lost via piracy.  They're just making up figures 
and in the US the private prison industry is licking their chops.


Hollywood is also not up to the fact that now about anyone can make a 
movie with HD cameras so cheap.  And people are doing just that.  The 
cost of film and production used to make it a barrier. I paid $3500 for 
my first HD camcorder when they first became available in 2003.  Now you 
can buy Vivitar ones on sale for $20 that probably take better video 
than the $3500 one though it had better lenses.


On 12/10/2013 11:17 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/Ah, the joys of avoiding the Copyright Cops in the Land of the Free 
and the Home of the Brave. :-) It's been easier for me in both Spain 
and the Netherlands, both of which countries wisely decided to never 
prosecute individuals pirating material for their own enjoyment (e.g., 
not for resale). They realized that the Copyright Cops were clogging 
their courts with nuisance suits, so they told them to fuck off. In 
France, they're still bowing to the Copyright Cops, but being a nation 
of film lovers, most people ignore the restrictions and download what 
they want anyway. Pretty much the worst that's going to happen to them 
is that they'll get dumped by their current ISP, which in France gives 
them the opportunity to change providers, something they otherwise 
wouldn't be able to do until their current contract ran out. :-)

/*

Re: [FairfieldLife] What to Do When China Nukes the U.S.

[Bhairitu]

Why would they nuke their owned country? ;-)
On 12/10/2013 07:36 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://dailyreckoning.com/what-to-do-when-china-nukes-the-u-s/

Re: [FairfieldLife] A post for Card and the other drummers here

[Bhairitu]

The desperation of poverty makes people come up with all kinds of weird 
ideas.  In college we had a percussion piece that was totally played by 
clapping hands.


I've owned two portable sets.  One was the RIMS set which was invented 
by the drummer on Prairie Home Companion and literally just drum heads 
and a rim, no shell.  It was actually hard to control the volume but 
collapsed into one piece and a cymbal accessory case.


http://www.netinstruments.com/drum-kits/drum-kit/rims-headset-drum-kit/image/35771.jpg/ 



To get a little more tone I got a Remo portable kit that had short 
shells on them.  Those also collapsed into two cases but the hardware 
was heavier than hell.  They were also too loud for many casual gigs.


These days I would want a 4 piece Yamaha kit with a 20 bass drum.  Back 
in the 1970s when I was working at a music store the president of 
Yamaha's music division visited and through his interpreter asked all 
kinds of questions about what I liked in drum kits.  What they produced 
was exactly what I detailed as my dream kit.


On 12/11/2013 01:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Why carry your drums or drum kits around with you when you could just 
wear them?


http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57615029-1/drumpants-put-a-whole-band-in-your-pocket/

[FairfieldLife] RE: My book of Fairfield and Vedic City Photographs

[dhamiltony2k5]

What a fabulous art project.  Thanks for sharing it.  Should be required 
viewing for everyone trying to post to Fairfield Life. 
 -Buck
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 You can see the entire book online, at the link below:
  
 Guy Harvey's letter to JoBeth

  

 As you know this year I published my book of Fairfield and Vedic City 
photographs - a result of a 5 year photographic journey.

  


 I'd be grateful if you share this with any fans of Fairfield and that might be 
looking for a local holiday gift. This coupon BLURBGIFT-1 gives 20% off.
  

 Preview all 43 color plates here including the Golden Dome, Global Country 
flag and 16 images of Vedic City

  

 
http://www.blurb.com/books/4366323-fairfield-iowa-and-vedic-city-a-color-image-galler
 
http://www.blurb.com/books/4366323-fairfield-iowa-and-vedic-city-a-color-image-galler

  

 Thanks for you encouragement of my art work. Wishing you a lovely holiday. 

  

  

 Best wishes,

 Guy


  

 -- 
 Guy Harvey
 Inspiration - Social Marketing - Photography

 Positive vibrations for an awakening world

 http://inspirationandlight.com http://inspirationandlight.com

  






  

[FairfieldLife] RE: My book of Fairfield and Vedic City Photographs

[emilymaenot]

I like the second photo of Downtown the best.  

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp#39;s Last Tape

[emilymaenot]

I am not replying to this but I must say that a paranoid optimist are 
the funniest three words I've heard in a long time.  Ah ha...smile.