subject:"\[FairfieldLife\] Re\: in or out"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trump Lashes out Again

2016-09-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is astounding how insecure this little rich boy is. He has spent his life 
sneering at others, ripping them off when he felt like it and surrounding 
himself with sycophants. Now he is on the national stage and he cannot stand it 
when someone treats him like an equal, and forces him to act like a normal 
member of society. 

Then we see the two year old emerge, the punk and brat that gets away with 
everything, the rich boy that daddy enabled, and the deeply insecure little 
Donald from Queens, who has wanted to "belong" ever since he can remember. The 
guy would fund a shrink's generous retirement plan all by himself. He is 
heading towards a fall and humiliation of historic proportions, one that will 
cement his name in the history books as one of America's greatest losers, a 
footnote to overblown ego and hubris. And he doesn't even see it. I hope for 
the Republicans' sake this embarrassment for them is over soon.

You love him as much as I do, LOL.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494064219/trump-criticizes-flint-pastor-but-misstates-key-facts-about-their-encounter
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494064219/trump-criticizes-flint-pastor-but-misstates-key-facts-about-their-encounter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trump Lashes out Again

2016-09-15 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is astounding how insecure this little rich boy is. He has spent his life 
sneering at others, ripping them off when he felt like it and surrounding 
himself with sycophants. Now he is on the national stage and he cannot stand it 
when someone treats him like an equal, and forces him to act like a normal 
member of society. 

Then we see the two year old emerge, the punk and brat that gets away with 
everything, the rich boy that daddy enabled, and the deeply insecure little 
Donald from Queens, who has wanted to "belong" ever since he can remember. The 
guy would fund a shrink's generous retirement plan all by himself. He is 
heading towards a fall and humiliation of historic proportions, one that will 
cement his name in the history books as one of America's greatest losers, a 
footnote to overblown ego and hubris. And he doesn't even see it. I hope for 
the Republicans' sake this embarrassment for them is over soon.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494064219/trump-criticizes-flint-pastor-but-misstates-key-facts-about-their-encounter
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494064219/trump-criticizes-flint-pastor-but-misstates-key-facts-about-their-encounter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trump Reaches Out to Black Americans

2016-08-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

The Bernie supporters who ran a booth at the Sunday farmers market here 
last spring are now running a "clean out congress booth."  We were 
chatting today about the poor choice we have this year for Presidential 
candidates.  They had a list of alternative media on a handout and at 
the top was Thom Hartmann was listed.  I informed them that Thom now 
considers anyone not supporting Hillary a Republican and shut down his 
message board after a bunch of people complained about the deletion of 
my topic there about Hillary announcing she had won the California 
primary before our polls closed.  Now you can only post comments on his 
other site HartmannReports.com and hardly anyone is anymore.  Anyway he 
will not be on that list next week.


On 08/21/2016 12:14 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/posts/10154772964750681

Andy Borowitz: "Trump Counting on Black Voters to Join His Unstoppable 
Coalition of Women, Mexicans and Muslims"




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

If he wins the black voters to his side, he would be considered the 
greatest salesman of all time.



_https://www.yahoo.com/gma/video/trump-under-fire-comments-african-231608903.html_

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trump Reaches Out to Black Americans

2016-08-21 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/posts/10154772964750681 
https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/posts/10154772964750681

Andy Borowitz: "Trump Counting on Black Voters to Join His Unstoppable 
Coalition of Women, Mexicans and Muslims" 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If he wins the black voters to his side, he would be considered the greatest 
salesman of all time.  
 

 
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/video/trump-under-fire-comments-african-231608903.html
 
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/video/trump-under-fire-comments-african-231608903.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-04 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Lincoln, Ford and Bush were all career Politicians


  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
   
    empty also mentioned Eisenhower.
I really should have remembered him.
emily's link brings up the names Abraham Lincoln, Gerald Ford and George H.W. 
Bush. All Republicans!
So it's not as uncommon as I'd assumed.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Eisenhower 


  From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
 
 Sorry - another Brit question.
Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. 
Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

empty also mentioned Eisenhower. 

 I really should have remembered him.
 

 emily's link brings up the names Abraham Lincoln, Gerald Ford and George H.W. 
Bush. All Republicans!
 

 So it's not as uncommon as I'd assumed.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Eisenhower 
 
 


 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
 
 
   Sorry - another Brit question.
 

 Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. 
 

 Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-04 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Eisenhower 


  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
   
    Sorry - another Brit question.
Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. 
Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and
The Senate or could he do real damage on his own?

Drumpf would do real damage on an international scale. Everyone seems to know
that except his supporters. But they know little and care little about foreign
policy or international relations. There is very little world news here in the
U.S. on T.V.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

As a Brit watching this race from a safe distance I've observed Trump's rise
with a certain amused detachment. I've been assuming that if Trump does become
Republican candidate he would go down to defeat before Hillary.

What shook me up was Trump's Nevada result after which he said: "You know what
I'm really happy about, because we've been saying it for a long time? Forty-six
percent with the Hispanics! Forty-six percent! Number one with Hispanics!" That
figure is disputed but it does make a certain sense. Who will suffer most from
a large influx of Mexicans if not Hispanics already in the US now having to
compete with the new arrivals?

Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It Helps Explain Trump
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html
Trumpkins beware: Racially segregated, partisan Super Tuesday victories will
not translate to general election wins.

View on www.thedailybeast.com
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html
Preview by Yahoo

http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/
http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/

I was watching This Week on BBCtv last week and they were discussing Trump.
The Conservative was asked about Trump's chances and he said that he had a very
good chance of becoming President. Then the other three participants all nodded
in agreement!

Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?

Just listening to him is already my worst nightmare, watching him preen and
strut around is beyond endurance. He won't become President - impossible - but
having to witness who he is and what he is doing is surely gag-worthy in the
meantime.

Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have company.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From Politifact: 
 "Of the 43 men who have been president, 16 were former senators, 18 were 
former governors, 14 were neither. That is, 37 percent were senators, 42 
percent were governors--and 33 percent didn’t serve as a governor or a senator. 
To reach these totals, we double-counted the five presidents who were both, 
giving credit where credit was due.

 Of late, though, more governors (of states) than senators have advanced to the 
presidency including two--Clinton and Bush--elected to the job while serving as 
governor.
 Perhaps significantly, Obama in 2008 was the first senator to capture the 
presidency directly from a Senate seat since Kennedy in 1960, nearly 50 years 
earlier. Nixon and Lyndon Johnson, both former senators, each won election to 
the highest office after serving as vice president."
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sorry - another Brit question. 

 Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. 
 

 Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Eisenhower! He was one of the greats. A "liberal Republican". 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

Yep ... Dwight Eisenhower, who helped save your British Arse.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

Yep ... Dwight Eisenhower, who helped save your British Arse.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Sorry - another Brit question. 

 Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. 
 

 Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician 
has become President?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The *monkey in the wrenchworks* could be a Cruz/Rubio ticket. As of this 
morning, I've been noticing party elitists saying Cruz may be the only way out 
at this point. It would mean swallowing, perhaps even choking on their pride. 
Uniting Cruz and Rubio looks like it could beat Trump in delegates at the 
convention. The key is, will Trump honor his commitment to not run as third 
party if he is beaten fair and square. 


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:28 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
   
    
Sorry, here is a much more current article re: Latinos and Drumpf:
http://fusion.net/story/275736/texas-super-tuesday-donald-trump-latino-voters/

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :

As a Brit watching this race from a safe distance I've observed Trump's rise 
with a certain amused detachment. I've been assuming that if Trump does become 
Republican candidate he would go down to defeat before Hillary.

What shook me up was Trump's Nevada result after which he said: "You know what 
I'm really happy about, because we've been saying it for a long time? Forty-six 
percent with the Hispanics! Forty-six percent! Number one with Hispanics!" That 
figure is disputed but it does make a certain sense. Who will suffer most from 
a large influx of Mexicans if not Hispanics already in the US now having to 
compete with the new arrivals?
Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It Helps Explain Trump
|  |
|  | |  | Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It... Trumpkins 
beware: Racially segregated, partisan Super Tuesday victories will not 
translate to general election wins. |  |
| View on www.thedailybeast.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |



http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/

I was watching This Week on BBCtv last week and they were discussing Trump. The 
Conservative was asked about Trump's chances and he said that he had a very 
good chance of becoming President. Then the other three participants all nodded 
in agreement! 
Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?
Just listening to him is already my worst nightmare, watching him preen and 
strut around is beyond endurance. He won't become President - impossible - but 
having to witness who he is and what he is doing is surely gag-worthy in the 
meantime.
Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The 
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have 
company.http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Sorry, here is a much more current article re: Latinos and Drumpf:

http://fusion.net/story/275736/texas-super-tuesday-donald-trump-latino-voters/
http://fusion.net/story/275736/texas-super-tuesday-donald-trump-latino-voters/

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It Helps Explain Trump
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

View on www.thedailybeast.com
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html
Preview by Yahoo

http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/
http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/

Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?

Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have company.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-03 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why We’re Segregated on Super Tuesday and How It Helps Explain Trump
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

View on www.thedailybeast.com
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/01/why-we-re-segregated-on-super-tuesday-and-how-it-helps-explain-trump.html

Preview by Yahoo

http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/
http://fusion.net/story/167578/univision-poll-latino-voters-trump/

Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?

Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have company.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-02 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Those are the million dollar questions! Nobody knows. 


  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 12:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
   
    As a Brit watching this race from a safe distance I've observed Trump's 
rise with a certain amused detachment. I've been assuming that if Trump does 
become Republican candidate he would go down to defeat before Hillary.

What shook me up was Trump's Nevada result after which he said: "You know what 
I'm really happy about, because we've been saying it for a long time? Forty-six 
percent with the Hispanics! Forty-six percent! Number one with Hispanics!" That 
figure is disputed but it does make a certain sense. Who will suffer most from 
a large influx of Mexicans if not Hispanics already in the US now having to 
compete with the new arrivals?
I was watching This Week on BBCtv last week and they were discussing Trump. The 
Conservative was asked about Trump's chances and he said that he had a very 
good chance of becoming President. Then the other three participants all nodded 
in agreement! 
Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?
Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The 
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have 
company.http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out

2016-03-02 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

As a Brit watching this race from a safe distance I've observed Trump's rise 
with a certain amused detachment. I've been assuming that if Trump does become 
Republican candidate he would go down to defeat before Hillary.
 

 What shook me up was Trump's Nevada result after which he said: "You know what 
I'm really happy about, because we've been saying it for a long time? Forty-six 
percent with the Hispanics! Forty-six percent! Number one with Hispanics!" That 
figure is disputed but it does make a certain sense. Who will suffer most from 
a large influx of Mexicans if not Hispanics already in the US now having to 
compete with the new arrivals?
 

 I was watching This Week on BBCtv last week and they were discussing Trump. 
The Conservative was asked about Trump's chances and he said that he had a very 
good chance of becoming President. Then the other three participants all nodded 
in agreement! 
 

 Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ?
 

 Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The 
Senate or could he do real damage on his own?
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have company.
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-11 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yep, tough to see where Apple will end up, now that Jobs is gone. I always
though they limited their market hugely by creating unique interfaces for their
platform, first cutting them out of the corporate world, and now finding
similar portability issues in the consumer market.

I agree that their future is in boutique stuff that breaks out for a mass
audience, but so far that line-up is looking a lot like a continuation of
1940's science fiction, brought to life. Seriously, who needs a Dick Tracy
watch (and "3D Touch" is a minor discovery - stacked piezoelectric sensors - in
search of a practical application)? I bought an overpriced I-Pad a few years
ago, for an app that only had an Apple interface. Due to the difficulty in
porting *anything* to a PC, the unit mostly collects dust.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Apple's plans land with a thud:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

Apps are the future of TV? There have been TVs with apps on them for several
years now. But Apple aways takes a page from Goebbels to make it look like
they invented it. Before their was the iPod there were MP3 players. Before
there was the iPhone there were other smart phones starting with the Symbian
phones back in the late 1990s.

And a $100 pencil that Jobs never wanted?

Apple is the Calvin Klein of computers. They get you to spend more money than
you should because of a logo.

On 09/09/2015 07:30 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds
like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has
plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of
jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a
joke. Apple has always been a cult.

Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and being loved.
Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac lover, listening to the
latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. Apple products are elegant, sexy
and desirable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-11 Thread ultrarishi

I think both Apple and Microsoft have lost their way.

Apple does "me too" better than most folks by coming out with their "new" 
innovated product after everyone has introduced the same (mp3 players, smart 
phones, watches, media players, etc)  At this point their innovation seems 
really stale and they charge just way too much for what can be had cheaper and 
better.  And they abandon products and software way to quickly.  


Microsoft and the clusterfuck known as Windows 10 is just the biggest PR 
failure ever.  Even folks who don't want Windows 10 are suddenly finding it has 
been secretly and without conscious authorization have had it downloaded into a 
6 Gig directory on their computer.  Talk about strong arming the consumer.  My 
paranoia tells me that this is really a secret initiative to by the NSA to get 
backdoors into as many consumers as possible worldwide while getting the new 
shiny interface.  It makes the computer an advertising deployment area for 
Microsoft to sell screen space to vendors.  Its cloud services are just a data 
mining wet dream to marketers (and 3 letter acronym agencies).

In 2011 I did a year of phone support for Apple and in 2012 I did the same 
thing for Microsoft.  Microsoft treated the folks who polish their corporate 
overlords' turds better, but not by much.  Both companies cannot emit to their 
many errors of judgement.  I had expected better form Satya Nadella as the new 
head, but it seems to be getting worse.  Maybe Ballmer wasn't so bad after all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-11 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

One of the afternoon radio talk hosts who happens to like to keep up on
tech had an iPhone which for years he was enthralled with. Then one day
he announced he was switching to Android. Didn't give a reason until
lately. The guy is also a musician and he wanted to do some music
things on his phone and found out he was quite limited on iOS. He took
a look at Android and found it did what he wanted. Bye bye Apple. He
really raked the Apple announcements this week on his show.

On 09/11/2015 03:48 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep, tough to see where Apple will end up, now that Jobs is gone. I
always though they limited their market hugely by creating unique
interfaces for their platform, first cutting them out of the corporate
world, and now finding similar portability issues in the consumer market.

I agree that their future is in boutique stuff that breaks out for a
mass audience, but so far that line-up is looking a lot like a
continuation of 1940's science fiction, brought to life. Seriously,
who needs a Dick Tracy watch (and "3D Touch" is a minor discovery -
stacked piezoelectric sensors - in search of a practical application)?
I bought an overpriced I-Pad a few years ago, for an app that only had
an Apple interface. Due to the difficulty in porting *anything* to a
PC, the unit mostly collects dust.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Apple's plans land with a thud:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

Apps are the future of TV? There have been TVs with apps on them for
several years now. But Apple aways takes a page from Goebbels to make
it look like they invented it. Before their was the iPod there were
MP3 players. Before there was the iPhone there were other smart
phones starting with the Symbian phones back in the late 1990s.

And a $100 pencil that Jobs never wanted?

Apple is the Calvin Klein of computers. They get you to spend more
money than you should because of a logo.

On 09/09/2015 07:30 PM, awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
wrote :

Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds
like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more.
Apple has
plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a
lot of
jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a
joke. Apple has always been a cult.

Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and
being loved. Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true
Mac lover, listening to the latest Apple Special Event broadcast
from SF. Apple products are elegant, sexy and desirable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-10 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Best thing I ever did was get Petra completely switched over to Apple 
products. Android was never a good fit for her, and when US Cellular finally 
decided to carry the iPhone, I got her one. Because it's the same OS as her 
beloved iPad, she had no problems with it. On Android, all she'd do was phone 
and text; on the iPhone, she checks her email, looks at the weather, tracks the 
stock market, etc. Granted, all that can be done on Android, but she could 
never figure it out. A few months ago, I finally got her switched over from her 
crappy Vista laptop to an iMac.
 

 Then you have proved yourself a worthy and sensitive husband. Every piece of 
technical equipment I own was carefully chosen, installed and continues to be 
upgraded and "fixed" by my husband (when necessary) who insists Apple is the 
only game in town for the everyday user, both computer savvy or not, and for 
artists. Apple is most definitely here to stay and my investment portfolio has 
benefited greatly from the inclusion of Apple stock.
 
As for me, I love my MacBook and iPads, but I still prefer Android for my phone 
and Windows for my desktop PC.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds 
 like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has 
 plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of 
 jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a 
 joke. Apple has always been a cult.
 

 Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and being loved. 
Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac lover, listening to the 
latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. Apple products are elegant, sexy 
and desirable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-10 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Best thing I ever did was get Petra completely switched over to Apple products. 
Android was never a good fit for her, and when US Cellular finally decided to 
carry the iPhone, I got her one. Because it's the same OS as her beloved iPad, 
she had no problems with it. On Android, all she'd do was phone and text; on 
the iPhone, she checks her email, looks at the weather, tracks the stock 
market, etc. Granted, all that can be done on Android, but she could never 
figure it out. A few months ago, I finally got her switched over from her 
crappy Vista laptop to an iMac.
 
As for me, I love my MacBook and iPads, but I still prefer Android for my phone 
and Windows for my desktop PC.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds 
 like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has 
 plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of 
 jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a 
 joke. Apple has always been a cult.
 

 Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and being loved. 
Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac lover, listening to the 
latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. Apple products are elegant, sexy 
and desirable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

My point was that with Jobs gone Apple seems to be falling apart.  Was 
it his quirky wisdom that made it a success?  The reason Petra loves the 
Apple stuff is because they are designed like toys.  That's not an 
insult but a design principal Jobs insisted on: KISS.   I can see it but 
I can't because I don't own any Macs either than an ancient Blueberry I 
fell owner too that is gathering dust in the garage.


I recently was looking at their app store and it hasn't changed much in 
3 years.  Google keeps revamping and updating theirs.  No wonder Android 
is leading 3 to 1 in sales.  There IS one thing that Jobs didn't want 
that might help: allow developers to develop iOS apps on other platforms 
like Windows and Linux.  One  can to an extent but usually to ship you 
still need a Mac.


On 09/10/2015 06:05 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Best thing I ever did was get Petra completely switched over to Apple 
products. Android was never a good fit for her, and when US Cellular 
finally decided to carry the iPhone, I got her one. Because it's the 
same OS as her beloved iPad, she had no problems with it. On Android, 
all she'd do was phone and text; on the iPhone, she checks her email, 
looks at the weather, tracks the stock market, etc. Granted, all that 
can be done on Android, but she could never figure it out. A few 
months ago, I finally got her switched over from her crappy Vista 
laptop to an iMac.



As for me, I love my MacBook and iPads, but I still prefer Android for 
my phone and Windows for my desktop PC.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :


Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds
like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has
plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of
jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a
joke. Apple has always been a cult.

Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and 
being loved. Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac 
lover, listening to the latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. 
Apple products are elegant, sexy and desirable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


Apple's plans land with a thud:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

Apps are the future of TV?  There have been TVs with apps on them for 
several years now.  But Apple aways takes a page from Goebbels to make 
it look like they invented it.  Before their was the iPod there were MP3 
players.  Before there was the iPhone there were other smart phones 
starting with the Symbian phones back in the late 1990s.


And a $100 pencil that Jobs never wanted?

Apple is the Calvin Klein of computers.  They get you to spend more 
money than you should because of a logo.


On 09/09/2015 07:30 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds
like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has
plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of
jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a
joke. Apple has always been a cult.

Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and 
being loved. Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac 
lover, listening to the latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. 
Apple products are elegant, sexy and desirable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple running out of ideas?

2015-09-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Is Apple dead like Steve Jobs? Wow! 3D touch. Can't wait, eh? Sounds 
 like innovation left Cupertino. Maybe Google is paying more. Apple has 
 plenty of money but what will the blow it all on? I'm hearing a lot of 
 jabs from the tech sector about today's Apple announcements being a 
 joke. Apple has always been a cult.
 

 Haha, a rather large cult. Apple will be a long time thriving and being loved. 
Ironically, I am sitting next to my husband, a true Mac lover, listening to the 
latest Apple Special Event broadcast from SF. Apple products are elegant, sexy 
and desirable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: happiness breaking out all over

2015-04-03 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes, the warmth of the sunshine of an Age of Enlightenment is being felt.
 It is Spring time in the AoE for those who can see it.
 I look forward to the full day ahead.
 Jai Guru Dev
 -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa out standing in his fields
 

Srijau writes:

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 especially in Latin America

 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive Emotions 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx

 
 
 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 
 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive... 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 Gallup finds that a majority of adults worldwide are experiencing positive 
emotions. Of the 10 countries in the world with the highest percentages ...


 
 View on www.gallup.com 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-07 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]





 On 11/5/2014 6:40 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

 Jesus Christ, what's going on here.  You responded to something I said!
 
 
 Now, I'm on the spot.
 
 
 Look, there are times, when I can't figure out why Richard insists on posting 
what appear to be complete fabrications.  
 

 

--- punditster@... wrote :

 Not a totally complete exaggeration:
 
 Suffice it to say that over an extended number of years I witnessed almost 
every siddhi described by Patanjali and quite a few that were not. -  Barry 
Wright
 
 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/UcdGW9pnVpI/discussion
 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/UcdGW9pnVpI/discussion
 
 
 
I DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH. I DON'T EVEN 
 BELIEVE THERE IS SUCH A THING.  THE ONLY
 THING I HAVE IS THE OCCASIONAL SHORT-
 LIVED OPINION.  YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT
 ONE, AND IT'S NO SWEAT OFF MY BALLS.  YOUR
 OPINION IS JUST AS GOOD AND JUST AS 
 VALID AS MINE, AND *NEITHER* OF THEM
 HAS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH TRUTH.

~ Uncle Tantra   137510 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/137510



 And sure, I would take exception to them, and would find them extremely 
annoying if I were on the receiving end of them, which I think I have been on 
occasion.
 
 
 But there are times, many times in fact, when I find him kknkowledgeable and 
very entertaining, and it appears others do as well, including Ann, in that 
instance.
 
 
 That was the gist of my comment.
 
 
 And for the record, when the discussion turns to details of Vedic or Buddhist 
stuff, about which he banters with others here, I generally don't have a clue.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote :
 
 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 
 
 maybe you need to circulate more.
 
 
 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 
 
 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-06 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]



I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old 
kid.  I think it was on another forum.  My memory has become 
hazy.  Maybe salyavin might remember it.


--- steve.sundur@... wrote :

can you elaborate?


--- jason_green2@... wrote :


By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. 
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another 
forum.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-06 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :

 

I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old 
kid.  I think it was on another forum.  My memory has become 
hazy.  Maybe salyavin might remember it.

Eh? fraid not, I've only been on FFL as far as TM things go. Didn't even have 
my own computer ten years ago



--- steve.sundur@... wrote :

can you elaborate?


--- jason_green2@... wrote :


By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. 
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another 
forum.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

salyavin, I'm laughing because even 8 years ago I was on a computer with a dial 
up connection! Go figger!

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:21 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :



I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old 
kid.  I think it was on another forum.  My memory has become 
hazy.  Maybe salyavin might remember it.

Eh? fraid not, I've only been on FFL as far as TM things go. Didn't even have 
my own computer ten years ago



--- steve.sundur@... wrote :

can you elaborate?


--- jason_green2@... wrote :


By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. 
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another 
forum.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/5/2014 6:40 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Jesus Christ, what's going on here.  You responded to something I said!


Now, I'm on the spot.

Look, there are times, when I can't figure out why Richard insists on 
posting what appear to be complete fabrications.


Not a totally complete exaggeration:

/Suffice it to say that over an extended number of years I witnessed 
almost every siddhi described by Patanjali and quite a few that were 
not./ -  Barry Wright


https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/UcdGW9pnVpI/discussion



And sure, I would take exception to them, and would find them 
extremely annoying if I were on the receiving end of them, which I 
think I have been on occasion.


But there are times, many times in fact, when I find him 
kknkowledgeable and very entertaining, and it appears others do as 
well, including Ann, in that instance.


That was the gist of my comment.

And for the record, when the discussion turns to details of Vedic or 
Buddhist stuff, about which he banters with others here, I generally 
don't have a clue.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

It's wrong, ain't it sal,just plain wrong, for someone to hold an 
opinion contrary to your own.


maybe you need to circulate more.

Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even 
remotely related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary 
opinion he's saying any old rubbish that comes into his head just for 
the sake of wasting the time of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's 
called trolling. What pleasure he gets out of it is anyone's guess.


If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind 
hearing it but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever 
go figure. It's him wasting his time. I don't give a damn.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless
and just writes the same old crap because
it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do
that, he doesn't even make sense. He's a
brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for
him. Imagine not knowing what non-sequitur
means! Imagine thinking that writing big
words you don't understand and copying from
wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine
spending all day trolling people!


So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe
you just like wasting time too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-05 Thread nablusoss1008

Nice !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :



I'm going to have to
take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.

You sound very prejudiced against
certain
groups. Prejudice is forming judgments toward people or a
person
because of their religion, age, sexuality, social class,
or
other personal characteristics. 


On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


That's the
first thing in this post that makes no sense.


Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a
preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual
experience. You sound like you're prejudiced against Hindus and
Christians. It's just an observation based on what you've posted
about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a prejudice against
Jews as wellwhich might be a result of your upbringing
or because of peer pressure.




My first
observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH
looks
like he doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks
positively embarrassed. Something in the way his
face
pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper
interviewing
him about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a
word
of it. Lying through his teeth.

Non sequitur.

That's the
second.


Non sequitur is an inference or conclusion
that does not follow from the premises or evidence: JH Having a
pinched up face or not has nothing to do with you being
wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya.


But then,
 considering the amount of money involved that's
exactly
how I do feel.


So, how much money have you donated to
the
movement? Apparently it was the movement that supported
you for
a decade. Cognitive dissonance?You sound like
somebody
that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset
and
want to take your anger out on spiritual all religious
groups.
Go figure.

Full house!

You sound like somebody
that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset and
want to take your anger out on spiritual and religious groups
online.
Go figure.


Ricky, I am finally getting the knack of how you roll (well, in the last three 
months I have) and you will outlast everyone here and not even end up 
breathing hard or elevating your heart rate. I gotta give you credit. You are 
a sly one and laughing as you go. Good for you. I love a person who knows how 
to play and to do so without malice.

Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! 
Imagine spending all day trolling people!

Imagine doing it for almost *twenty years* now, as Richard Williams has.

You also should remember, Salyavin, that in this post you are conversing with 
the woman (Ann) who holds Judy Stein as her idol and once wrote that she 
feels she is in a contest with Judy to determine who can be the Queen Bitch 
on Fairfield Life. *Of course* someone who thinks like this is going to fall 
for Richard Williams' act, which is essentially a lobotomized version of 
Judy's, which she modeled her own act on. 


So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Again, this is the result of placing the person who more or less *invented* 
the sick FFL dynamic (Judy) on a pedestal. To people who think like Ann and 
Richard and Judy, outlasting the people you're trying to demonize is The 
Whole Point. It's how they think they win, by getting in the last word.

I actually think that this tactic may be an extension of True Believerism 
itself. The *essence* of being a TB is that one hangs in there, continuing 
to believe No Matter What. Think TMers who still believe that there is such a 
thing as the Maharishi Effect decades after it was pretty much definitively 
proven that it didn't exist. In their minds *as TBs*, the way that they prove 
their faith and win is to hang in there with untenable beliefs the longest. 
So they apply this same brainwashed model to debating non-believers: If I 
can just 'outlast this heretic, I'll have 'won' and proved my beliefs 
superior to his.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-05 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yep, I thought so too. The writer captured the vibe of the place very well.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Nice !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!
 So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!
 So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

And as I have pointed out before, Steve is a clone of Willy Tex

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

It's wrong, ain't it sal,just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own.

maybe you need to circulate more.

Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel universe 
with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely related to 
what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying any old 
rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time of 
anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets out 
of it is anyone's guess.

If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!

So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting 
time too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.
 
 You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, sexuality, 
social class, or other personal characteristics. 
 
 On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
 That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.
 
 Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is not 
based on reason or actual experience. You sound like you're prejudiced against 
Hindus and Christians. It's just an observation based on what you've posted 
about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a prejudice against Jews as well which 
might be a result of your upbringing or because of peer pressure.
 
 
 
 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.



 
 Non sequitur.
  That's the second.
 
 Non sequitur is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the 
premises or evidence: JH Having a pinched up face or not has nothing to do with 
you being wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya.
 
 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 



 
 So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently it was the 
movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive dissonance? You sound like 
somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset and want to 
take your anger out on spiritual all religious groups. Go figure.
  Full house! 
 You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're 
upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual and religious groups online. 
Go figure.
 
 Ricky, I am finally getting the knack of how you roll (well, in the last three 
months I have) and you will outlast everyone here and not even end up breathing 
hard or elevating your heart rate. I gotta give you credit. You are a sly one 
and laughing as you go. Good for you. I love a person who knows how to play and 
to do so without malice.  Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just 
writes the same old crap because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do 
that, he doesn't even make sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry 
for him. Imagine not knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that 
writing big words you don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to 
impress people! Imagine spending all day trolling people! So what is the point 
of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time too. Go figure. Funny 
how perception is different for different people. You dig bawee and I think 
Richard is having the time of his life. Don't underestimate what he's thinking 
and doing here, not that it will lead to anything beyond entertainment at FFL. 
bawee takes himself very seriously but Ricky does not, that is a big difference 
right there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :


It's wrong, ain't it sal,just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own.

maybe you need to circulate more.

Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel universe 
with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely related to 
what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying any old 
rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time of 
anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets out 
of it is anyone's guess.

If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.



Steve doesn't understand the distinction you're making because some months ago 
something happened to him and he began to adopt Willytex's tactics himself. He 
doesn't really ever add anything to any of the discussions he interrupts or 
deal with any of the actual issues that the critics have brought up. Instead, 
he just says something nasty about the critic, hoping 1) to hurt them somehow, 
and 2) to shut them up. 

It was really SAD to see this degeneration of his mind happen here on FFL. 
There was a time when I would have considered him one of the fairly intelligent 
people here. But then something pushed his buttons Big-Time, and he hasn't been 
the same since. If I had to guess what it was, I'd guess that he had a strong, 
largely unconscious reaction to admitted atheists being able to speak here as 
if their ideas were just as valuable as anyone else's. He resented that so much 
that he started his anti-atheist diatribes. Now he seems to be able to do 
nothing BUT get his buttons pushed and lash out. Sad. Maybe he should start 
meditating again.  :-)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!

So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting 
time too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 Steve doesn't understand the distinction you're making because some months ago 
something happened to him and he began to adopt Willytex's tactics himself. He 
doesn't really ever add anything to any of the discussions he interrupts or 
deal with any of the actual issues that the critics have brought up. Instead, 
he just says something nasty about the critic, hoping 1) to hurt them somehow, 
and 2) to shut them up. 

It was really SAD to see this degeneration of his mind happen here on FFL. 
There was a time when I would have considered him one of the fairly intelligent 
people here. But then something pushed his buttons Big-Time, and he hasn't been 
the same since. If I had to guess what it was, I'd guess that he had a strong, 
largely unconscious reaction to admitted atheists being able to speak here as 
if their ideas were just as valuable as anyone else's. He resented that so much 
that he started his anti-atheist diatribes. Now he seems to be able to do 
nothing BUT get his buttons pushed and lash out. Sad. Maybe he should start 
meditating again.  :-)
 

 He has changed hasn't he? I'm glad I'm not imagining that. Becoming a Willytex 
tribute act is a funny choice though. A checking would probably help his anger 
issues.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-05 Thread nablusoss1008

Nice !
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 Mahesh Yogi
 
 The third of four children, Mahesh Prasad Varma, now revered by his followers 
as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, was born into a rather well-off family. The exact 
date of his birth is not known. January 12, 1917 is the one given by his uncle 
Raj Varma, other dates are October 18, 1911; January 12, 1918; and October 18, 
1918.
 
 He showed a natural disposition towards the sciences, and as he grew up he 
graduated from Allahabad University. I was completely dissatisfied with what I 
studied in college. Because I knew - this can't be the whole knowledge. I was 
searching for something complete whereby I could understand everything. For a 
while he worked at a local factory, but his restless spirit bade him to become 
a disciple to the Shankaracharaya. And with this he renounced the world, took 
the vows of celibacy, and began to call himself Bal Brahmachari Mahesh.
 
 
 
 
 
 Mahesh Yogi 1964
 
 MY system of meditation is a golden link to connect and harmonize materialism 
and spirituality. It is a direct process to integrate man's life on earth. 
Thus spake Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the man who took spiritualism to the masses 
and packaged TM or transcendental meditation in a more easy-to-understand form.
 
 The Maharishi traveled all over India and met many great men He told his 
listeners that life was short, and so there was no point in being miserable. 
Then why waste time in helplessness and suffer any agony in life? Why suffer 
when you can enjoy? Why be miserable when you can be happy? Now, let the days 
of misery and peacelessness be over and let their operation become tales of the 
past. Allow not the past history of agony to be continued in the present. Be 
happy and gay.
 
 He held, in the late fifties, a Seminar of Spiritual Luminaries in Mylapore 
with a view to finding out a practical formula of spiritual regeneration of the 
world.
 
 The Maharishi's goal now was to make the whole world spiritual, and to do that 
he would have to spread his message quickly and effectively, but he realized 
that the rate at which he was going, it would take at least 200 years to 
achieve that goal. Then I thought: I must go to the most advanced country, 
because I thought — the country is most advanced because the people of that 
country would try something new very readily. Once his message was accepted 
there, it would be easy enough to spread it to the rest of the world.
 
 His book Science of Being and Art of Living was published in 1963. It was the 
summation of both the practical wisdom of the ancient Indian texts and the 
latest scientific knowledge of the West.
 
 Source:
 
 The Spectrum - Great Minds
 Tribune News Service
 http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/2416/spectrum/main2.htm 
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/2416/spectrum/main2.htm
 
 
 
 
   
 The Maharishi's World - A modern worldwide movement spanning 80 countries.
 
 
 
 Maharishi in Vlodrop, NE
 
 This is the world of the modern Maharishi. Satellite dishes and a 24-hour 
channel, exclusive mind-body centres set in the most beautiful acreage in 
Europe, mansions and castles where the rich and famous pay daunting sums of 
money to heal their souls. 
 
 Hemant Kumar took a tour of  the Maharishi's empire and found a fantasy land, 
where opulence and luxury meet Vedic mantras and Vastu.
 
 It's the biggest wooden house in netherlands. not a single metal pin or nail 
has been driven into the seasoned cedar. Finnish artisans handcrafted wooden 
pins and rivets to take the place of metallic nails and screws. Famous German 
architect Ike Hartman pored over reams of original Vastu inscribed in Sthapatya 
Ved, to design the house. 
 
 A generous coat of neem oil protects the wood from termite. When the cedar 
catches the late evening sun, its golden paint simply ignites. And the house 
glows--like a gigantic ladle overflowing with molten gold. And then, as the sun 
goes down, up goes the quartet of fountains on the sprawling lawns across the 
building. Transfixed, I watch the spectacle unfold like a giant slide show.
 
 The place is Vlodrop (pronounced Flow-Drop), some 300 km south of Amsterdam. 
This is where the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi lives and from where he presides over 
his vast empire girdling the globe and growing ever larger. It's so quiet here 
you can hear yourself think. I enter the main building and a long, scented 
corridor lined with slippers. 
 
 And yet, not a sound. I raise a questioning eyebrow at Atilla, the young 
Austrian driver who picked me up at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport. Fingers on 
his lips, he points out my room to me. I unlatch the door, and with a whispered 
''TM time, I must rush too'', Atilla disappears down the hallway. 
 
 My room would put any five-star hotel suite to shame. It's plush, elegant and 
beautifully decorated. It's part of a huge building, housing more than 500 
people, each of them sitting absolutely still, deep in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-05 Thread wgm4u

I didn't know Maharishi recommended being Gay! Are you sure...?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




--- steve.sundur@... wrote :

It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.  
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 


There is no democracy in physics.  We can't say that some 
second-rate guy has as much right to opinion as Fermi.
~Luis Walter Alvarez

Whoever is careless with truth in small matters cannot be 
trusted in important affairs.
~ Albert Einstein

By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. 
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another 
forum.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


/You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and
now you're upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual and
religious groups online. Go figure./

Ricky, I am finally getting the knack of how you roll (well, in
the last three months I have) and you will outlast everyone here
and not even end up breathing hard or elevating your heart rate. I
gotta give you credit. You are a sly one and laughing as you go.
Good for you. I love a person who knows how to play and to do so
without malice.

Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the
same old crap because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do
that, he doesn't even make sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie.
I feel sorry for him. Imagine not knowing what non-sequitur means!
Imagine thinking that writing big words you don't understand and
copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine
spending all day trolling people!

So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like
wasting time too. Go figure.



On 11/5/2014 8:34 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Funny how perception is different for different people. You dig
bawee and I think Richard is having the time of his life. Don't
underestimate what he's thinking and doing here, not that it will
lead to anything beyond entertainment at FFL. bawee takes himself
very seriously but Ricky does not, that is a big difference right
there.



/They seem really serious about this discussion group. Which is 
probably  good thing. Some people do feel better when they have someone 
to talk to. We may be the only people they still know that would be 
willing to discuss their spiritual path with any amount of sympathy or 
understanding.


This may be the voice they always wanted when they were working for 
their spiritual group, so it seems harmless enough, if it helps them 
with their cognitive dissonance.


You need to take into consideration, Ann, that they both were kicked out 
of their cult - this has apparently had a very negative and profound 
effect on them. Maybe they still don't realize that it was not a good 
thing to be so deep into the cult thing for so long. It's a really good 
thing they got kicked out, but probably very painful on the ego.


The important thing is that they've first got to admit they have a 
problem due to their prolonged indoctrination. Admitting they have a 
problem is the very first step any cult exit counselor would advise them. //


Let's hope they both get straightened out!/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-05 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/5/2014 9:34 AM, wgm4u wrote:



I didn't know Maharishi recommended being Gay! Are you sure...?



/I had been very close to Mahesh Yogi and he had represented to me 
Truth. Truth was very essential to me, and always had been. That is, as 
much of the truth as was possible in the West at that time. Since I felt 
Mahesh Yogi had failed to keep to truth, I had to leave him. Referring 
to my statement he said that I was 'unstressing' the karma that was 
'coming from me'. From then, I gave him his last nightly massage, kissed 
his feet, and left him. -/Conny Larsson, //God's Little Clown

///
/*/Behind the Clown's Mask/*/
//by Conny Larsson/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Jesus Christ, what's going on here.  You responded to something I said! 

 Now, I'm on the spot.
 

 Look, there are times, when I can't figure out why Richard insists on posting 
what appear to be complete fabrications.  And sure, I would take exception to 
them, and would find them extremely annoying if I were on the receiving end of 
them, which I think I have been on occasion.
 

 But there are times, many times in fact, when I find him kknkowledgeable and 
very entertaining, and it appears others do as well, including Ann, in that 
instance.
 

 That was the gist of my comment.
 

 And for the record, when the discussion turns to details of Vedic or Buddhist 
stuff, about which he banters with others here, I generally don't have a clue.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!
 So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thank you Michael.  How should I put this.  Are you are clone of yourself?  No, 
no.  

 Maybe, you are caught in this loop, where you think you are being creative, 
but actually you are just repeating the same thing, over and over.  (getting 
closer Steve)
 

 I don't know.  I just leave it at that. 
 

 But please, continue with your ongoing research project of finding every 
article that has been posted about MMY and TM movement since about 1956, as 
though it was today's breaking news.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 And as I have pointed out before, Steve is a clone of Willy Tex

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!
 So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 You got it Bar.  As usual you just hit the nail on the head. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 Steve doesn't understand the distinction you're making because some months ago 
something happened to him and he began to adopt Willytex's tactics himself. He 
doesn't really ever add anything to any of the discussions he interrupts or 
deal with any of the actual issues that the critics have brought up. Instead, 
he just says something nasty about the critic, hoping 1) to hurt them somehow, 
and 2) to shut them up. 

It was really SAD to see this degeneration of his mind happen here on FFL. 
There was a time when I would have considered him one of the fairly intelligent 
people here. But then something pushed his buttons Big-Time, and he hasn't been 
the same since. If I had to guess what it was, I'd guess that he had a strong, 
largely unconscious reaction to admitted atheists being able to speak here as 
if their ideas were just as valuable as anyone else's. He resented that so much 
that he started his anti-atheist diatribes. Now he seems to be able to do 
nothing BUT get his buttons pushed and lash out. Sad. Maybe he should start 
meditating again.  :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just writes the same old crap 
because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do that, he doesn't even make 
sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry for him. Imagine not 
knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that writing big words you 
don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to impress people! Imagine 
spending all day trolling people!
 So what is the point of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time 
too. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks sal, I'll take it under advisement. 

 Actually, my meditations have been pretty good of late, so I may hold off on 
the checking.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 It's wrong, ain't it sal, just plain wrong, for someone to hold an opinion 
contrary to your own. 

 maybe you need to circulate more.
 

 Now what the fuck are YOU talking about? It's like being in a parallel 
universe with you lot sometimes. What Willytex wrote is not even remotely 
related to what I said. He isn't just holding a contrary opinion he's saying 
any old rubbish that comes into his head just for the sake of wasting the time 
of anyone dumb enough to read it. It's called trolling. What pleasure he gets 
out of it is anyone's guess.
 

 If he had a contrary opinion that was well reasoned I wouldn't mind hearing it 
but he hasn't. I say one thing, he says blah blah whatever go figure. It's him 
wasting his time. I don't give a damn.
 

 

 Steve doesn't understand the distinction you're making because some months ago 
something happened to him and he began to adopt Willytex's tactics himself. He 
doesn't really ever add anything to any of the discussions he interrupts or 
deal with any of the actual issues that the critics have brought up. Instead, 
he just says something nasty about the critic, hoping 1) to hurt them somehow, 
and 2) to shut them up. 

It was really SAD to see this degeneration of his mind happen here on FFL. 
There was a time when I would have considered him one of the fairly intelligent 
people here. But then something pushed his buttons Big-Time, and he hasn't been 
the same since. If I had to guess what it was, I'd guess that he had a strong, 
largely unconscious reaction to admitted atheists being able to speak here as 
if their ideas were just as valuable as anyone else's. He resented that so much 
that he started his anti-atheist diatribes. Now he seems to be able to do 
nothing BUT get his buttons pushed and lash out. Sad. Maybe he should start 
meditating again.  :-)
 

 He has changed hasn't he? I'm glad I'm not imagining that. Becoming a Willytex 
tribute act is a funny choice though. A checking would probably help his anger 
issues.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

can you elaborate?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :

 
By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. 
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another 
forum.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I have to admit I have not watched it all the way through yet - I was watching 
it last night and got side tracked with Seraph's posting of the James Randi 
video - watched that one all the way through - what a great film! I do wish 
Randi could get hold of Hagelin - I would love to see them in the same room. I 
will watch the rest of Johhny H today or tonite - I think your idea of 
forwarding this to some proper scientists is excellent - his use of Feynman's 
work is blasphemous in the extreme. 




 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
 


  


Thanks for finding this MJ, it's pure gold.

I love how he makes it sound so reasonable to connect the big bang with 
astrology and all the planets and how they affect us but not mention why 
anything not visible to the naked eye doesn't affect us at all!

The longer it goes on the redder his face gets. I'd like to run the video 
through some sort of high-tech bullshit detector that measures skin response 
and voice patterns to measure dishonesty. His voice rises in pitch when he uses 
any well understood term in the wrong context, like quantum theory and 
prediction at the macro scale. Bit of a giveaway, I think he'd get a 10/10 on 
any lie detector, if we could watch it sideways I bet his nose gets longer.

There are so many errors and sleights of hand it'd take all day to mention them 
all, but the idea that super strings are a symphony that correlate with the use 
of sound in yagya and creates atoms in nature and can therefore be used to 
influence both is the biggest stretch. 

I'm going to forward this to some proper scientists, I know it's wasting their 
time but this is being used to screw money out of people so maybe there's a 
James Randi with a bit of media clout who might be interested. Philip French? 
Richard Wiseman? Susan Blackmore? You've got mail!

And I can't believe someone with a PHD in physics has got the nerve to use 
Feynman diagrams to bolster this rubbish. As the great man said Science is how 
we've learned not to fool ourselves. 






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :



I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.

My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.

But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :


Sal, you have been wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya. All you have to do is 
listen to and watch Dr. John Hagelin in this here video and it will straighten 
out your thinking. Don't resist, because that will be karmically rough on you. 
Watch and believe.

http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702
  
 
Videos | Maharishi Yagyas for the Nation: Prevention, Pr...
Videos Dr. John Hagelin explains the scientific basis of Jyotish and Yagya, the 
uniqueness of Maharishi Yagya, and the benefits of National Yagyas. Dr. John 
Hagelin...  
View on www.nationalyagya.org Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/4/2014 1:06 AM, salyavin808 wrote:



I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much 
exposure to this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.


/You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, 
sexuality, social class, or other personal characteristics./


/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice/



My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like 
he doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. 
Something in the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a 
copper interviewing him about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a 
word of it. Lying through his teeth.


/Non sequitur./



But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how 
I do feel.


/So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently it was 
the movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive dissonance?//You 
sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're 
upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual all religious groups. 
Go figure./





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

Sal, you have been wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya. All you have 
to do is listen to and watch Dr. John Hagelin in this here video and 
it will straighten out your thinking. Don't resist, because that will 
be karmically rough on you. Watch and believe.


http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702

image http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702





Videos | Maharishi Yagyas for the Nation: Prevention, Pr... 
http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702
Videos Dr. John Hagelin explains the scientific basis of Jyotish and 
Yagya, the uniqueness of Maharishi Yagya, and the benefits of National 
Yagyas. Dr. John Hagelin...


View on www.nationalyagya.org 
http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702


Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/4/2014 7:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have to admit I have not watched it all the way through yet - I was 
watching it last night and got side tracked with Seraph's posting of 
the James Randi video...


/You really got to work early this morning! But shouldn't you be getting 
some work done? It's probably against company rules to be using their 
computer on company time when your supposed to be working.


Maybe you need to get out more and meet people - staying home and 
watching videos of JH on Saturday night may not be a very useful way to 
spend your leisure time. Have you ever considered getting some female 
companionship? It works for me. Maybe it's you that needs some 
straighting out. You seem to be unstressing a lot lately. Go figure. /

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/4/2014 1:06 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
 
   
 
 I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.
 
 You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, sexuality, 
social class, or other personal characteristics. 
 That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.
 
 
 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.



 
 Non sequitur.
  That's the second.
 
 
 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 



 
 So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently it was the 
movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive dissonance? You sound like 
somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset and want to 
take your anger out on spiritual all religious groups. Go figure.
  Full house!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much
exposure to this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.


/You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is
forming judgments toward people or a person because of their
religion, age, sexuality, social class, or other personal
characteristics./



On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:



That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.



/Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is 
not based on reason or actual experience. You sound like you're 
prejudiced against Hindus and Christians. It's just an observation based 
on what you've posted about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a 
prejudice against Jews as well//which might be a result of your 
upbringing or because of peer pressure./






My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks
like he doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively
embarrassed. Something in the way his face pinches up when he
talks. If I was a copper interviewing him about some heinous
crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his teeth.


/Non sequitur./


That's the second.



/Non sequitur is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from 
the premises or evidence: JH Having a pinched up face or not has nothing 
to do with you being wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya.//

///



But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's
exactly how I do feel.


/So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently
it was the movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive
dissonance?//You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the
movement and now you're upset and want to take your anger out on
spiritual all religious groups. Go figure./


Full house!



/You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now 
you're upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual and religious 
groups online. Go figure./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.
 
 You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, sexuality, 
social class, or other personal characteristics. 
 
 On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
 That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.
 
 Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is not 
based on reason or actual experience. You sound like you're prejudiced against 
Hindus and Christians. It's just an observation based on what you've posted 
about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a prejudice against Jews as well which 
might be a result of your upbringing or because of peer pressure.
  Just trolling along eh? Whatever gives you pleasure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.
 
 You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, sexuality, 
social class, or other personal characteristics. 
 
 On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
 That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.
 
 Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is not 
based on reason or actual experience. You sound like you're prejudiced against 
Hindus and Christians. It's just an observation based on what you've posted 
about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a prejudice against Jews as well which 
might be a result of your upbringing or because of peer pressure.
 
 
 
 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.



 
 Non sequitur.
  That's the second.
 
 Non sequitur is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the 
premises or evidence: JH Having a pinched up face or not has nothing to do with 
you being wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya.
 
 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 



 
 So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently it was the 
movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive dissonance? You sound like 
somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset and want to 
take your anger out on spiritual all religious groups. Go figure.
  Full house! 
 You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're 
upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual and religious groups online. 
Go figure.
 
 Ricky, I am finally getting the knack of how you roll (well, in the last three 
months I have) and you will outlast everyone here and not even end up breathing 
hard or elevating your heart rate. I gotta give you credit. You are a sly one 
and laughing as you go. Good for you. I love a person who knows how to play and 
to do so without malice.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-04 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal.
 
 You sound very prejudiced against certain groups. Prejudice is forming 
judgments toward people or a person because of their religion, age, sexuality, 
social class, or other personal characteristics. 
 
 On 11/4/2014 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
 That's the first thing in this post that makes no sense.
 
 Let me explain it to you: Prejudice is a preconceived opinion that is not 
based on reason or actual experience. You sound like you're prejudiced against 
Hindus and Christians. It's just an observation based on what you've posted 
about Ann and Share. You do seem to have a prejudice against Jews as well which 
might be a result of your upbringing or because of peer pressure.
 
 
 
 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.



 
 Non sequitur.
  That's the second.
 
 Non sequitur is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the 
premises or evidence: JH Having a pinched up face or not has nothing to do with 
you being wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya.
 
 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 



 
 So, how much money have you donated to the movement? Apparently it was the 
movement that supported you for a decade. Cognitive dissonance? You sound like 
somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're upset and want to 
take your anger out on spiritual all religious groups. Go figure.
  Full house! 
 You sound like somebody that got kicked out of the movement and now you're 
upset and want to take your anger out on spiritual and religious groups online. 
Go figure.
 
 Ricky, I am finally getting the knack of how you roll (well, in the last three 
months I have) and you will outlast everyone here and not even end up breathing 
hard or elevating your heart rate. I gotta give you credit. You are a sly one 
and laughing as you go. Good for you. I love a person who knows how to play and 
to do so without malice.  Gosh, you're a sucker. The guy is clueless and just 
writes the same old crap because it's easier than thinking. Anyone could do 
that, he doesn't even make sense. He's a brainwashed cult zombie. I feel sorry 
for him. Imagine not knowing what non-sequitur means! Imagine thinking that 
writing big words you don't understand and copying from wikipedia is going to 
impress people! Imagine spending all day trolling people! So what is the point 
of outlasting everyone? Maybe you just like wasting time too. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

He certainly had the X factor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread Duveyoung

He kicked the kid outta her room -- didn't never not hear about him fixing up a 
shack out back.

The 433 book is my source.

Even back then, as a true believer, when I read the book, I was all like What 
the fuck?  Take kid's room?  

Shudda been a tell, but nope, I was polishing my blinkers and proud of it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread wgm4u

Most people fall asleep around the 3rd bubble and never do get to the 
transcendent, but hey, that's better than nothing and sometimes you may even 
get a glimpse of what's beyond, like MMY said: you know it's a house and not a 
tree, in 7 steps of instruction.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas [1 Attachment]

2014-11-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/3/2014 9:53 AM, marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


He certainly had the X factor.


/He seemed to be on a perpetual high  - I'll take what he was having. 
The guy was just awesome!




//Then he launched into praise for those leading his ayurveda 
initiative and the promotion of its value, holding that the fundamental 
strength of ayurveda lay in its ability to prevent illness. He was in 
particularly good form, his delivery bubbly and enthusiastic. As he 
glanced around him his eyes danced and sparkled.


This was not to say he never hesitated or found himself grasping for 
words. The name he had applied to the year of 1990 for some moments 
eluded him, but after quickly referring to his notes he continued 
undaunted, stating that he perceived an upsurge in friendliness in the 
world today which he attributed to the practice of accessing 
transcendental consciousness. 

//
//He continued his marathon speech. He was in high spirits and in 
especially confident mood. Although his outer appearance showed his age, 
his strength of purpose and his capacity to express himself told another 
story. With head and body bobbing up and down, his toothsome, smiling 
face emitted hope and generosity. His words tumbled amidst bubbles of 
humour.


The man seemed to be on a perpetual 'high'. Was it any wonder that, on 
the strength of his personality, so many had taken to his teachings? His 
passion and optimism flowed out in seemingly endless torrents of speech. 
One could really believe that such a man would have his own 
universities, with numerous scientists and specialists working for him, 
and would be able to form his own government and even to live in his own 
capital.


He had the power, he had the charisma, he had that certain something, a 
magnetism that drew people near (Mason 350).//

//
//Source: //
//
/*/Maharishi: The Biography/*/
//by Paul Mason//
//Element Books, 1992/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread nablusoss1008


 Agreed. Sometimes golden dust can escape even from a crook like Mason :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/3/2014 9:53 AM, martyboi@... mailto:martyboi@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
 
 He certainly had the X factor. 
 He seemed to be on a perpetual high  - I'll take what he was having. The guy 
was just awesome!
 
 
 
 Then he launched into praise for those leading his ayurveda initiative and 
the promotion of its value, holding that the fundamental strength of ayurveda 
lay in its ability to prevent illness. He was in particularly good form, his 
delivery bubbly and enthusiastic. As he glanced around him his eyes danced and 
sparkled. 
 
 This was not to say he never hesitated or found himself grasping for words. 
The name he had applied to the year of 1990 for some moments eluded him, but 
after quickly referring to his notes he continued undaunted, stating that he 
perceived an upsurge in friendliness in the world today which he attributed 
to the practice of accessing transcendental consciousness. 
 
 He continued his marathon speech. He was in high spirits and in especially 
confident mood. Although his outer appearance showed his age, his strength of 
purpose and his capacity to express himself told another story. With head and 
body bobbing up and down, his toothsome, smiling face emitted hope and 
generosity. His words tumbled amidst bubbles of humour. 
 
 The man seemed to be on a perpetual 'high'. Was it any wonder that, on the 
strength of his personality, so many had taken to his teachings? His passion 
and optimism flowed out in seemingly endless torrents of speech. One could 
really believe that such a man would have his own universities, with numerous 
scientists and specialists working for him, and would be able to form his own 
government and even to live in his own capital. 
 
 He had the power, he had the charisma, he had that certain something, a 
magnetism that drew people near (Mason 350).
 
 Source: 
 
 Maharishi: The Biography
 by Paul Mason
 Element Books, 1992

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/3/2014 10:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote:

He kicked the kid outta her room -- 


/Get a grip, Edg - the Maharishi's visit with the Olson's in L.A. was 
just for ten days!


You seem to be in a clear case of cognitive dissonance: everyone knows 
you slept inside a TM Center for five years. It was good for Tina to be 
kicked out of her room so she wasn't so attached. If you had been kicked 
out, you might have gotten a life long before working for a cult for a 
decade and a half. Go figure./



didn't never not hear about him fixing up a shack out back.


/You are mistaken.//According to Helen Olson, Maharishi, it seemed, 
would be with us from the tenth of May to the fifteenth of May. On 
Tuesday evening, may tenth,an announcement was made at the lecture hall 
that Maharishi would be staying at433 South Harvard Boulevard (Olson 
42-43). In her book 433 Helen describes a shack in her//  garden out 
back where there was an old, unfinished children's playhouse which she 
offered to Maharishi as his shrine room for initiations - so they 
painted it and fixed it up with rugs and curtains./



The 433 book is my source.


/When are you going to read it? You are supposed to read the book BEFORE 
you post your comments./


Even back then, as a true believer, when I read the book, I was all 
like What the fuck?  Take kid's room?


/Sounds like you are just unstressing./


Shudda been a tell, but nope, I was polishing my blinkers and proud of it.


/You suck as an informant.//
//
//Work cited://
//
/*/Maharishi at 433: The Story of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's First Visit to 
the United States/*/

//by Helena Olsen//
//pp 72-73/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

I'm pretty sure he stayed much, much longer than 10 days. 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/3/2014 10:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 

 He kicked the kid outta her room -- 
 Get a grip, Edg - the Maharishi's visit with the Olson's in L.A. was just for 
ten days! 
 
 You seem to be in a clear case of cognitive dissonance: everyone knows you 
slept inside a TM Center for five years. It was good for Tina to be kicked out 
of her room so she wasn't so attached. If you had been kicked out, you might 
have gotten a life long before working for a cult for a decade and a half. Go 
figure.
 
 didn't never not hear about him fixing up a shack out back.
 
 You are mistaken. According to Helen Olson, Maharishi, it seemed, would be 
with us from the tenth of May to the fifteenth of May. On Tuesday evening, may 
tenth,an announcement was made at the lecture hall that Maharishi would be 
staying at433 South Harvard Boulevard (Olson 42-43). In her book 433 Helen 
describes a shack in her  garden out back where there was an old, unfinished 
children's playhouse which she offered to Maharishi as his shrine room for 
initiations - so they painted it and fixed it up with rugs and curtains.
 
 The 433 book is my source.
 
 When are you going to read it? You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you 
post your comments.
 
 Even back then, as a true believer, when I read the book, I was all like What 
the fuck?  Take kid's room?  
 
 Sounds like you are just unstressing.
 
 Shudda been a tell, but nope, I was polishing my blinkers and proud of it. 
 You suck as an informant.
 
 Work cited:
 
 Maharishi at 433: The Story of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's First Visit to the 
United States
 by Helena Olsen
 pp 72-73

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas [1 Attachment]

2014-11-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/3/2014 10:31 AM, wgm4u wrote:
Most people fall asleep around the 3rd bubble and never do get to the 
transcendent, but hey, that's better than nothing and sometimes you 
may even get a glimpse of what's beyond, like MMY said: you know it's 
a house and not a tree, in 7 steps of instruction.


/A teaching is given on one level of consciousness; it is received on 
quite another./ - MMY




/Maharishi at 433; high resolution 8 x 10 (421K) JPEG - (Photo by Thomas 
J. Crowe). Suitable for gold frame./


/http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/maharishi_large.jpg/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/3/2014 10:15 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I'm pretty sure he stayed much, much longer than 10 days.



/According to Helen Olson, in her book cited by Edg, the Maharishi was 
supposed to stay at 433 for ten days - ///from the tenth of May to the 
fifteenth of May/. I'm sure there was some coming and going after that - 
for example he went up to San Francisco for a few days.


The point I was trying to make is that Edg was supposed to read the book 
BEFORE he posted his comments - browsing to the TM-Free blog to get 
stories isn't a good source of information for an informant./





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 11/3/2014 10:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote:


He kicked the kid outta her room --


/Get a grip, Edg - the Maharishi's visit with the Olson's in L.A.
was just for ten days!

You seem to be in a clear case of cognitive dissonance: everyone
knows you slept inside a TM Center for five years. It was good for
Tina to be kicked out of her room so she wasn't so attached. If
you had been kicked out, you might have gotten a life long before
working for a cult for a decade and a half. Go figure./


didn't never not hear about him fixing up a shack out back.


/You are mistaken.//According to Helen Olson, Maharishi, it
seemed, would be with us from the tenth of May to the fifteenth of
May. On Tuesday evening, may tenth,an announcement was made at the
lecture hall that Maharishi would be staying at433 South Harvard
Boulevard (Olson 42-43). In her book 433 Helen describes a
shack in her//garden out back where there was an old, unfinished
children's playhouse which she offered to Maharishi as his shrine
room for initiations - so they painted it and fixed it up with
rugs and curtains./


The 433 book is my source.


/When are you going to read it? You are supposed to read the book
BEFORE you post your comments./


Even back then, as a true believer, when I read the book, I was
all like What the fuck?  Take kid's room?


/Sounds like you are just unstressing./


Shudda been a tell, but nope, I was polishing my blinkers and
proud of it.


/You suck as an informant.//
//
//Work cited://
//
/*/Maharishi at 433: The Story of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's First
Visit to the United States/*/
//by Helena Olsen//
//pp 72-73/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-03 Thread salyavin808



I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal. 

 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.
 

 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Sal, you have been wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya. All you have to do is 
listen to and watch Dr. John Hagelin in this here video and it will straighten 
out your thinking. Don't resist, because that will be karmically rough on you. 
Watch and believe.
 

 http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702 
http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702
  
  
 http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702
  
  
  
  
  
 Videos | Maharishi Yagyas for the Nation: Prevention, Pr... 
http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702 Videos Dr. John Hagelin 
explains the scientific basis of Jyotish and Yagya, the uniqueness of Maharishi 
Yagya, and the benefits of National Yagyas. Dr. John Hagelin...


 
 View on www.nationalyagya.org 
http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702; 
class=ygrps-yiv-871099254link-enhancr-card-url 
ygrps-yiv-871099254link-enhancr-element
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out

2014-11-03 Thread salyavin808


 Thanks for finding this MJ, it's pure gold.
 

 I love how he makes it sound so reasonable to connect the big bang with 
astrology and all the planets and how they affect us but not mention why 
anything not visible to the naked eye doesn't affect us at all!
 

 The longer it goes on the redder his face gets. I'd like to run the video 
through some sort of high-tech bullshit detector that measures skin response 
and voice patterns to measure dishonesty. His voice rises in pitch when he uses 
any well understood term in the wrong context, like quantum theory and 
prediction at the macro scale. Bit of a giveaway, I think he'd get a 10/10 on 
any lie detector, if we could watch it sideways I bet his nose gets longer.
 

 There are so many errors and sleights of hand it'd take all day to mention 
them all, but the idea that super strings are a symphony that correlate with 
the use of sound in yagya and creates atoms in nature and can therefore be used 
to influence both is the biggest stretch. 
 

 I'm going to forward this to some proper scientists, I know it's wasting their 
time but this is being used to screw money out of people so maybe there's a 
James Randi with a bit of media clout who might be interested. Philip French? 
Richard Wiseman? Susan Blackmore? You've got mail!
 

 And I can't believe someone with a PHD in physics has got the nerve to use 
Feynman diagrams to bolster this rubbish. As the great man said Science is how 
we've learned not to fool ourselves. 
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 

I'm going to have to take this video one step at a time. Too much exposure to 
this bollocks at once could possibly be fatal. 

 My first observation is, and I may be imagining it, but JH looks like he 
doesn't believe it ether. In fact he looks positively embarrassed. Something in 
the way his face pinches up when he talks. If I was a copper interviewing him 
about some heinous crime I wouldn't believe a word of it. Lying through his 
teeth.
 

 But then,  considering the amount of money involved that's exactly how I do 
feel.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Sal, you have been wrong-headed about jyotish and yagya. All you have to do is 
listen to and watch Dr. John Hagelin in this here video and it will straighten 
out your thinking. Don't resist, because that will be karmically rough on you. 
Watch and believe.
 

 http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=63410702 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 John, I'm not sure that jihadists driven to such horrific acts will cave
 in due to their own vileness. And certainly not in response to the world's
 censure. They LIVE FOR that censure. imo.


My plan would be to send in a thousand drones to wipe out their
infrastructure. First, disable all the tanks, jeeps, and Toyotas and then
hit their oil and fuel processing facilities and pipelines. Then, enforce a
no-drive zone on any highway or road in the entire ISIS-controlled areas.

Without fuel, money coming in and no vehicles, it probably wouldn't take
six months before the rag heads all come out with their hands in the air
waving a white flag looking for a ride to a meal.

Then, we would arrest all the leaders and hold them at Gitmo until they get
a NSA chip implanted in their forehead so we could track them anywhere they
go. Then, we would put the ISIS leaders to work in an ebola clinic for the
rest of their lives.

If there were any objections and for some reason this plan failed, we would
then consider emptybll's final solution.




   On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com
 [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



  Jedi,

 That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard
 core criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.

 The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their
 ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.

 Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be
 surrounded in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.
  It's possible that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.

 If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further
 degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking
 a sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly
 rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :



 You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to
 wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

 These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out
 of this.


 --- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that
 the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment,
 weapons and stronghold.

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would
 assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs
 the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called
 friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be
 degraded.

 The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the
 cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy
 combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-17 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yikes, Richard! You've really given this a lot of thought. Even down to the 
detail about sending ISIS leaders to work in ebola clinics. I'd say those 
patients are already suffering enough! Do you have an alternative plan?



On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:31 AM, Richard Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  




On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
  
John, I'm not sure that jihadists driven to such horrific acts will cave in 
due to their own vileness. And certainly not in response to the world's 
censure. They LIVE FOR that censure. imo.


My plan would be to send in a thousand drones to wipe out their infrastructure. 
First, disable all the tanks, jeeps, and Toyotas and then hit their oil and 
fuel processing facilities and pipelines. Then, enforce a no-drive zone on any 
highway or road in the entire ISIS-controlled areas.

Without fuel, money coming in and no vehicles, it probably wouldn't take six 
months before the rag heads all come out with their hands in the air waving a 
white flag looking for a ride to a meal. 

Then, we would arrest all the leaders and hold them at Gitmo until they get a 
NSA chip implanted in their forehead so we could track them anywhere they go. 
Then, we would put the ISIS leaders to work in an ebola clinic for the rest of 
their lives.

If there were any objections and for some reason this plan failed, we would 
then consider emptybll's final solution.




On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  
Jedi,


That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard core 
criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.


The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their 
ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.


Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be surrounded 
in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.  It's possible 
that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.


If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further 
degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking a 
sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly 
rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :





You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 
wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :


Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons 
and stronghold.


However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the
cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy
combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 Yikes, Richard! You've really given this a lot of thought. Even down to
 the detail about sending ISIS leaders to work in ebola clinics. I'd say
 those patients are already suffering enough!


*Not to attend the sick, but to cremate the dead bodies.Someone has to do
it.*


 Do you have an alternative plan?


*The alternative plan is the final solution: nuke Mecca, with a threat to
do the same to Medina. But I really think my plan is better - it's hard to
field an army with no fuel or food when your life depends on a Toyota for a
runner to get to a market.*






   On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:31 AM, Richard Williams
 pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:





 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
 [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


  John, I'm not sure that jihadists driven to such horrific acts will cave
 in due to their own vileness. And certainly not in response to the world's
 censure. They LIVE FOR that censure. imo.

 
 My plan would be to send in a thousand drones to wipe out their
 infrastructure. First, disable all the tanks, jeeps, and Toyotas and then
 hit their oil and fuel processing facilities and pipelines. Then, enforce a
 no-drive zone on any highway or road in the entire ISIS-controlled areas.

 Without fuel, money coming in and no vehicles, it probably wouldn't take
 six months before the rag heads all come out with their hands in the air
 waving a white flag looking for a ride to a meal.

 Then, we would arrest all the leaders and hold them at Gitmo until they
 get a NSA chip implanted in their forehead so we could track them anywhere
 they go. Then, we would put the ISIS leaders to work in an ebola clinic for
 the rest of their lives.

 If there were any objections and for some reason this plan failed, we
 would then consider emptybll's final solution.
 



   On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com
 [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



  Jedi,

 That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard
 core criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.

 The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their
 ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.

 Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be
 surrounded in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.
  It's possible that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.

 If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further
 degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking
 a sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly
 rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :



 You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to
 wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

 These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out
 of this.


 --- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that
 the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment,
 weapons and stronghold.

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would
 assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs
 the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called
 friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be
 degraded.

 The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the
 cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy
 combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-16 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

John, I'm not sure that jihadists driven to such horrific acts will cave in due 
to their own vileness. And certainly not in response to the world's censure. 
They LIVE FOR that censure. imo.



On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  
Jedi,

That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard core 
criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.

The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their 
ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.

Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be surrounded 
in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.  It's possible 
that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.

If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further 
degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking a 
sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly 
rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :





You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 
wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :


Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and 
stronghold.

However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the
cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy
combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-16 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Share, 

 You're correct.  That's precisely why the world, including the USA, has no 
choice but to crush them with violence in equal or greater measure to stop 
their evil acts.
 

 I don't believe the Maharishi Effect can influence ISIS because their ideology 
and actions are inherently vile and evil.  It is common knowledge that the 
truth about a person can be known by the actions he or she takes.  As such, the 
militants' barbaric execution of innocent people only shows that they're not 
for peace but for evil dominion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 John, I'm not sure that jihadists driven to such horrific acts will cave in 
due to their own vileness. And certainly not in response to the world's 
censure. They LIVE FOR that censure. imo.

 


 On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:29 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 

   Jedi,
 

 That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard core 
criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.
 

 The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their 
ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.
 

 Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be surrounded 
in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.  It's possible 
that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.
 

 If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further 
degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking a 
sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly 
rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :

 
 
You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 
wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and 
stronghold. 

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras 
from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy combatants.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-15 Thread jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 
You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 
wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and 
stronghold. 

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras 
from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-15 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

There would be too much collateral damage in that scenario. So, I prefer my
solution - destroy the infrastructure such as oil transport facilities,
trucks, jeeps, tanks and all Toyota 4-Runners. Send in drones that pick off
the leaders one-by-one, over time.

Since it's a desert, there's really no place to hide and when you run,
everyone can see you. It was a really bad idea for the leaders of ISIS to
pick northern Iraq for their headquarters. They did a really stupid and bad
thing - and now they will be destroyed by U.S. and allied air-power.

Only the U.S. has the firepower to bring down ISIS - nobody else on the
planet has the guts, enough money and ammunition, or the logistics to get
the job done.

The real problem is the U.S. Congress and the funding. Another problem is
the alliance - nobody wants to send in boots on the ground.



On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:51 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to
 wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

 These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out
 of this.


 --- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that
 the ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment,
 weapons and stronghold.

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would
 assume Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs
 the ISIS stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called
 friendly militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be
 degraded.

 The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the
 cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy
 combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-15 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Y-9YSBB9sExcellent Idea! Watch this. 
  



On Monday, September 15, 2014 6:10 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  


  
There would be too much collateral damage in that scenario. So, I prefer my 
solution - destroy the infrastructure such as oil transport facilities, trucks, 
jeeps, tanks and all Toyota 4-Runners. Send in drones that pick off the leaders 
one-by-one, over time. 

Since it's a desert, there's really no place to hide and when you run, everyone 
can see you. It was a really bad idea for the leaders of ISIS to pick northern 
Iraq for their headquarters. They did a really stupid and bad thing - and now 
they will be destroyed by U.S. and allied air-power. 

Only the U.S. has the firepower to bring down ISIS - nobody else on the planet 
has the guts, enough money and ammunition, or the logistics to get the job 
done. 

The real problem is the U.S. Congress and the funding. Another problem is the 
alliance - nobody wants to send in boots on the ground. 





On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:51 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
  
You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 

wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :


Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons 
and stronghold.


However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the 
cameras from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy 
combatants.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wipe them out (Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact)

2014-09-15 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Jedi, 

 That's too extreme.  Non-combatants will be killed along with the hard core 
criminals.  I don't believe the world would accept that solution.
 

 The ISIS militants are already feeling the world opinion against their 
ideology.  They will eventually cave-in due to their own vileness.
 

 Once the Iraqi forces take back their towns and lands, ISIS will be surrounded 
in their homeground in Syria by forces that are against them.  It's possible 
that Assad's forces could wipe them out first.
 

 If not, Obama could start bombing their weapons and equipment to further 
degrade ISIS.  But this could also create international furor for attacking a 
sovereign land in Syria.  Assad would complain, but he would be secretly 
rejoicing in that the Americans are attacking his own enemy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote :

 
 
You want my advice? A single neutron bomb would be enough to 
wipe them out. The infrastructure will remain intact.

These people are savage bandits. There is no other way out 
of this.


--- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and 
stronghold. 

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.

The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras 
from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy combatants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Just to follow up...




 From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com


  
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

  
But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English.     

It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled 
shows ( Crisis, and I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson 
:-), and only watch 5 of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


 
UPDATE (May 10 at 3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula.
UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing.
UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist for a seventh season 
and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher and 
Friends With Better Lives.
CANCELED SHOWS
NBC
Believe
Community
Crisis
Growing Up Fisher
Revolution
The Michael J. Fox Show
Sean Saves The World
Welcome To The Family
Ironside
FOX
Dads
Rake
Surviving Jack
Enlisted
Raising Hope
The X Factor
Almost Human
ABC
Suburgatory
Trophy Wife
Super Fun Night
Lucky 7
Mind Games
Mixology
Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
Killer Woman
Betrayal
The Assets
Back In The Game
The Neighbors
CBS
We Are Men
The CW
The Carrie Diaries
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
RENEWED SHOWS
NBC
About A Boy
The Blacklist
Chicago PD
Grimm
Chicago Fire
Hannibal
Law  Order: SVU
Parks  Recreation
The Voice
FOX
Bob's Burgers
Bones
American Idol
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Family Guy
Glee
Hell's Kitchen
MasterChef Junior
The Following
The Mindy Project
New Girl
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
ABC
Nashville
Scandal
Castle
The Bachelor
Dancing With The Stars
Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The Middle
Modern Family
Revenge
Shark Tank
Once Upon A Time
Resurrection
Grey's Anatomy
The Goldbergs
America's Funniest Home Videos
CBS
2 Broke Girls
The Amazing Race
The Big Bang Theory
Blue Bloods
Criminal Minds
CSI
48 Hours
60 Minutes
Elementary
The Good Wife
Hawaii Five-0
Mike  Molly
Undercover Boss
NCIS
The Millers
Mom
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest
Survivor
Two and a Half Men
The CW
The 100
Arrow
Beauty and the Beast
The Originals
Reign
Hart of Dixie
The Vampire Diaries
Supernatural

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

Interesting list. I don't have specific criteria for why I watch or don't watch 
shows. Some quality shows I don't bother watching, and some obvious 
pot-boilers, I do. The only pattern is that I tend to enjoy fantasy  scifi, 
even badly done fantasy  scifi, as long as it isn't horrible beyond belief, 
and even then, if I still somehow am entertained.
 

 I find anime far more fun, in general, than most non-anime, but that may be 
partly because I am quite faceblind, so I often get similar-looking characters 
confused in live-action shows, while animators make sure that the average 
character is easily distinguished.
 

 Here's my list of watched American hows taken from your list:
 

 

 CANCELED SHOWS
 NBC
Believe
Community

 FOX
Almost Human
 ABC

 CBS

 The CW
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
 RENEWED SHOWS
 NBC
Grimm

 FOX
Bones
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
 ABC
Castle
Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Modern Family
Once Upon A Time
Resurrection

 CBS
The Big Bang Theory
Elementary
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest

 The CW
The 100
Arrow
Beauty and the Beast
The Originals
The Vampire Diaries
Supernatural

 

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Just to follow up...

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

   From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English. 















It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled 
shows ( Crisis, and I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson 
:-), and only watch 5 of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


   UPDATE (May 10 at 3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/dracula-canceled/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/last-man-standing-renewed-for-4th-season/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/mentalist-renewed-canceled/ for a seventh 
season and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher 
and Friends With Better Lives.
 CANCELED SHOWS
 NBC
 Believe
 Community
 Crisis
 Growing Up Fisher
 Revolution
 The Michael J. Fox Show
 Sean Saves The World
 Welcome To The Family
 Ironside
 FOX
 Dads
 Rake
 Surviving Jack
 Enlisted
 Raising Hope
 The X Factor
 Almost Human
 ABC
 Suburgatory
 Trophy Wife
 Super Fun Night
 Lucky 7
 Mind Games
 Mixology
 Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
 Killer Woman
 Betrayal
 The Assets
 Back In The Game
 The Neighbors
 CBS
 We Are Men
 The CW
 The Carrie Diaries
 Star-Crossed
 The Tomorrow People
 RENEWED SHOWS
 NBC
 About A Boy
 The Blacklist
 Chicago PD
 Grimm
 Chicago Fire
 Hannibal
 Law  Order: SVU
 Parks  Recreation
 The Voice
 FOX
 Bob's Burgers
 Bones
 American Idol
 Brooklyn Nine-Nine
 Family Guy
 Glee
 Hell's Kitchen
 MasterChef Junior
 The Following
 The Mindy Project
 New Girl
 Sleepy Hollow
 The Simpsons
 ABC
 Nashville
 Scandal
 Castle
 The Bachelor
 Dancing With The Stars
 Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
 The Middle
 Modern Family
 Revenge
 Shark Tank
 Once Upon A Time
 Resurrection
 Grey's Anatomy
 The Goldbergs
 America's Funniest Home Videos
 CBS
 2 Broke Girls
 The Amazing Race
 The Big Bang Theory
 Blue Bloods
 Criminal Minds
 CSI
 48 Hours
 60 Minutes
 Elementary
 The Good Wife
 Hawaii Five-0
 Mike  Molly
 Undercover Boss
 NCIS
 The Millers
 Mom
 NCIS: Los Angeles
 Person of Interest
 Survivor
 Two and a Half Men
 The CW
 The 100
 Arrow
 Beauty and the Beast
 The Originals
 Reign
 Hart of Dixie
 The Vampire Diaries
 Supernatural

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

One of the things to bear in mind when regarding my American TV preferences is 
that the terms broadcast and cable mean nothing to me. I live in a 
Pirate-friendly country, and thus can watch pretty much everything the day 
after it was broadcast originally, whether on a normal channel like NBC or a 
pay channel like Showtime or HBO or even Netflix. So there are a few other 
series that I like that aren't on this list that come from the pay channels. 
There are also others I like that are from Canada, like Continuum, Orphan 
Black, and Lost Girl.

Interesting reason for preferring anime -- I had never considered the issue of 
faceblindness before. That would certainly make Game Of Thrones, with its 
cast of possibly hundreds of recurring characters, difficult to follow.




 From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than 
I thought
 


  
Interesting list. I don't have specific criteria for why I watch or don't watch 
shows. Some quality shows I don't bother watching, and some obvious 
pot-boilers, I do. The only pattern is that I tend to enjoy fantasy  scifi, 
even badly done fantasy  scifi, as long as it isn't horrible beyond belief, 
and even then, if I still somehow am entertained.

I find anime far more fun, in general, than most non-anime, but that may be 
partly because I am quite faceblind, so I often get similar-looking characters 
confused in live-action shows, while animators make sure that the average 
character is easily distinguished.

Here's my list of watched American hows taken from your list:


CANCELED SHOWS
NBC
Believe
Community

FOX
Almost Human
ABC

CBS

The CW
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
RENEWED SHOWS
NBC
Grimm

FOX
Bones
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
ABC
Castle
Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Modern Family
Once Upon A Time
Resurrection

CBS
The Big Bang Theory
Elementary
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest

The CW
The 100
Arrow
Beauty and the Beast
The Originals
The Vampire Diaries
Supernatural




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Just to follow up...




 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com


 
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

 
But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to
watch. The best and most consistently creative television in the world is being 
made in Denmark right now, with other parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many 
of the TV series you probably consider American and thus creative were pure 
ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The Killing to The Bridge to (soon) 
Mammon. There is no creativity in remaking a foreign TV series, and 
succeeding only in making a shittier version in English.     

It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or
renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled shows ( Crisis, and 
I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson :-), and only watch 5 
of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


 
UPDATE (May 10 at 3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula.
UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing.
UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist for a seventh season 
and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher and 
Friends With Better Lives.
CANCELED SHOWS
NBC
Believe
Community
Crisis
Growing Up Fisher
Revolution
The Michael J. Fox Show
Sean Saves The World
Welcome To The Family
Ironside
FOX
Dads
Rake
Surviving Jack
Enlisted
Raising Hope
The X Factor
Almost Human
ABC
Suburgatory
Trophy Wife
Super Fun Night
Lucky 7
Mind Games
Mixology
Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
Killer Woman
Betrayal
The Assets
Back In The Game
The Neighbors
CBS
We Are Men
The CW
The Carrie Diaries
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
RENEWED SHOWS
NBC
About A Boy
The Blacklist
Chicago PD
Grimm
Chicago Fire
Hannibal
Law  Order: SVU
Parks  Recreation
The Voice
FOX
Bob's Burgers
Bones
American Idol
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Family Guy
Glee
Hell's Kitchen
MasterChef Junior
The Following
The Mindy Project
New Girl
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
ABC
Nashville
Scandal
Castle
The Bachelor
Dancing With The Stars
Marvel's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]


 The beards are a big help. Size and hair color are a good aid as well.
 

 L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 One of the things to bear in mind when regarding my American TV preferences is 
that the terms broadcast and cable mean nothing to me. I live in a 
Pirate-friendly country, and thus can watch pretty much everything the day 
after it was broadcast originally, whether on a normal channel like NBC or a 
pay channel like Showtime or HBO or even Netflix. So there are a few other 
series that I like that aren't on this list that come from the pay channels. 
There are also others I like that are from Canada, like Continuum, Orphan 
Black, and Lost Girl.
 

 Interesting reason for preferring anime -- I had never considered the issue of 
faceblindness before. That would certainly make Game Of Thrones, with its 
cast of possibly hundreds of recurring characters, difficult to follow.

 

 From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than 
I thought
 
 
   Interesting list. I don't have specific criteria for why I watch or don't 
watch shows. Some quality shows I don't bother watching, and some obvious 
pot-boilers, I do. The only pattern is that I tend to enjoy fantasy  scifi, 
even badly done fantasy  scifi, as long as it isn't horrible beyond belief, 
and even then, if I still somehow am entertained.
 

 I find anime far more fun, in general, than most non-anime, but that may be 
partly because I am quite faceblind, so I often get similar-looking characters 
confused in live-action shows, while animators make sure that the average 
character is easily distinguished.
 

 Here's my list of watched American hows taken from your list:
 

 

 CANCELED SHOWS
 NBC
Believe
Community

 FOX
Almost Human
 ABC

 CBS

 The CW
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
 RENEWED SHOWS
 NBC
Grimm

 FOX
Bones
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
 ABC
Castle
Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Modern Family
Once Upon A Time
Resurrection

 CBS
The Big Bang Theory
Elementary
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest

 The CW
The 100
Arrow
Beauty and the Beast
The Originals
The Vampire Diaries
Supernatural

 

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Just to follow up...

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

   From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English. 















It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled 
shows ( Crisis, and I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson 
:-), and only watch 5 of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


   UPDATE (May 10 at 3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/dracula-canceled/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/last-man-standing-renewed-for-4th-season/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/mentalist-renewed-canceled/ for a seventh 
season and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher 
and Friends With Better Lives.
 CANCELED SHOWS
 NBC
 Believe
 Community
 Crisis
 Growing Up Fisher
 Revolution
 The Michael J. Fox Show
 Sean Saves The World
 Welcome To The Family
 Ironside
 FOX
 Dads
 Rake
 Surviving Jack
 Enlisted
 Raising Hope
 The X Factor
 Almost Human
 ABC
 Suburgatory
 Trophy Wife
 Super Fun Night
 Lucky 7
 Mind Games
 Mixology
 Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
 Killer Woman
 Betrayal
 The Assets
 Back In The Game
 The Neighbors
 CBS
 We Are Men
 The CW
 The Carrie Diaries
 Star-Crossed
 The Tomorrow People
 RENEWED SHOWS

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com





The beards are a big help. Size and hair color are a good aid as well.


Fascinating topic. I admit to never having heard of the concept of face 
blindness before seeing a movie called Faces In The Crowd. Milla Jovovich 
stars in a plot about a woman suffering from face blindness after an encounter 
with a serial killer. She saw his face in the attack, but now can't tell it 
from any other face. 

Faces in the Crowd (2011)

Faces In The Crowd - Official Trailer [HD]


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


One of the things to bear in mind when regarding my American TV preferences is 
that the terms broadcast and cable mean nothing to me. I live in a 
Pirate-friendly country, and thus can watch pretty much everything the day 
after it was broadcast originally, whether on a normal channel like NBC or a 
pay channel like Showtime or HBO or even Netflix. So there are a few other 
series that I like that aren't on this list that come from the pay channels. 
There are also others I like that are from Canada, like Continuum, Orphan 
Black, and Lost Girl.

Interesting reason for preferring anime -- I had never considered the issue of 
faceblindness before. That would certainly make Game Of Thrones, with its 
cast of possibly hundreds of recurring characters, difficult to follow.




 From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than 
I thought



 
Interesting list. I don't have specific criteria for why I watch or don't watch 
shows. Some quality shows I don't bother watching, and some obvious 
pot-boilers, I do. The only pattern is that I tend to enjoy fantasy  scifi, 
even badly done fantasy  scifi, as long as it isn't horrible beyond belief, 
and even then, if I still somehow am entertained.

I find anime far more fun, in general, than most non-anime, but that may be 
partly because I am quite faceblind, so I often get similar-looking characters 
confused in live-action shows, while animators make sure that the average 
character is easily distinguished.

Here's my list of watched American hows taken from your list:


CANCELED SHOWS
NBC
Believe
Community

FOX
Almost Human
ABC

CBS

The CW
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People
RENEWED SHOWS
NBC
Grimm

FOX
Bones
Sleepy Hollow
The Simpsons
ABC
Castle
Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Modern Family
Once Upon A Time
Resurrection

CBS
The Big Bang Theory
Elementary
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest

The CW
The 100
Arrow
Beauty and the
Beast
The Originals
The Vampire Diaries
Supernatural




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Just to follow up...




 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com


 
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

 
But if you were trying to say that I
consider America the most creative in the arts, that is simply not true. I 
consider a tiny, tiny portion of American TV and movie content good enough to
watch. The best and most consistently creative television in the world is being 
made in Denmark right now, with other parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many 
of the TV series you probably consider American and thus creative were pure 
ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The Killing to The Bridge to (soon) 
Mammon. There is no creativity in remaking a foreign TV series, and 
succeeding only in making a shittier version in English.     

It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or
renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled shows ( Crisis, and 
I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson :-), and only watch 5 
of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


 
UPDATE (May 10 at
3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula.
UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing.
UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist for a seventh season 
and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher and 
Friends With Better Lives.
CANCELED SHOWS
NBC
Believe
Community
Crisis
Growing Up Fisher
Revolution
The Michael J. Fox Show
Sean Saves The World
Welcome To The Family
Ironside
FOX
Dads
Rake
Surviving Jack
Enlisted
Raising Hope
The X Factor
Almost Human
ABC

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Just to follow up...

 

 As fascinating as it is to view a list of American channels and the TV shows 
they air, not to mention how riveted I am to read about the ones that you watch 
or don't watch I would have to list this post as just another way of you to 
show the world what a cool and individualistic dude you are. I'm in awe...
 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

   From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English. 















It's amusing for me to notice -- especially after my tiny, tiny portion 
comment above -- that of the 105 American TV series on the following list of 
either canceled or renewed shows, I regularly watch only one of the canceled 
shows ( Crisis, and I watched it only so I could lust after Gillian Anderson 
:-), and only watch 5 of the renewed shows. 

This is amusing to me because when I was writing my original reply to Steve, I 
was considering invoking Sturgeon's Law to describe American television. That 
law, named for the scifi writer who coined it, Theodore Sturgeon, is as true 
today as it was when he first quipped it back in the 1950s: 90% of everything 
is crap. 

Well, it turns out that I only bother to watch about 5% of the TV shows on 
American broadcast channels. :-)  


   UPDATE (May 10 at 3:30 p.m.): NBC canceled Dracula. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/dracula-canceled/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 3 p.m.): ABC renewed Last Man Standing. 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/last-man-standing-renewed-for-4th-season/
 UPDATE (May 10 at 2:10 p.m.): CBS renewed The Mentalist 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/10/mentalist-renewed-canceled/ for a seventh 
season and canceled Intelligence, Hostages, The Crazy Ones, Bad Teacher 
and Friends With Better Lives.
 CANCELED SHOWS
 NBC
 Believe
 Community
 Crisis
 Growing Up Fisher
 Revolution
 The Michael J. Fox Show
 Sean Saves The World
 Welcome To The Family
 Ironside
 FOX
 Dads
 Rake
 Surviving Jack
 Enlisted
 Raising Hope
 The X Factor
 Almost Human
 ABC
 Suburgatory
 Trophy Wife
 Super Fun Night
 Lucky 7
 Mind Games
 Mixology
 Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
 Killer Woman
 Betrayal
 The Assets
 Back In The Game
 The Neighbors
 CBS
 We Are Men
 The CW
 The Carrie Diaries
 Star-Crossed
 The Tomorrow People
 RENEWED SHOWS
 NBC
 About A Boy
 The Blacklist
 Chicago PD
 Grimm
 Chicago Fire
 Hannibal
 Law  Order: SVU
 Parks  Recreation
 The Voice
 FOX
 Bob's Burgers
 Bones
 American Idol
 Brooklyn Nine-Nine
 Family Guy
 Glee
 Hell's Kitchen
 MasterChef Junior
 The Following
 The Mindy Project
 New Girl
 Sleepy Hollow
 The Simpsons
 ABC
 Nashville
 Scandal
 Castle
 The Bachelor
 Dancing With The Stars
 Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
 The Middle
 Modern Family
 Revenge
 Shark Tank
 Once Upon A Time
 Resurrection
 Grey's Anatomy
 The Goldbergs
 America's Funniest Home Videos
 CBS
 2 Broke Girls
 The Amazing Race
 The Big Bang Theory
 Blue Bloods
 Criminal Minds
 CSI
 48 Hours
 60 Minutes
 Elementary
 The Good Wife
 Hawaii Five-0
 Mike  Molly
 Undercover Boss
 NCIS
 The Millers
 Mom
 NCIS: Los Angeles
 Person of Interest
 Survivor
 Two and a Half Men
 The CW
 The 100
 Arrow
 Beauty and the Beast
 The Originals
 Reign
 Hart of Dixie
 The Vampire Diaries
 Supernatural

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/11/2014 10:49 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
One of the things to bear in mind when regarding my American TV 
preferences is that the terms broadcast and cable mean nothing to me.


Don't tell us you even steal your neighbors wireless access point! Go 
figure.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-11 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 05/11/2014 10:22 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


On 5/11/2014 10:49 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
One of the things to bear in mind when regarding my American TV 
preferences is that the terms broadcast and cable mean nothing to me.


Don't tell us you even steal your neighbors wireless access point! Go 
figure.


No, but  I think my neighbors may be stealing mine. :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
 View on pando.com 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 I know.  Kinda strange Ann.  These guns sat in a safe for probably 40 years 
untouched.  They've never been needed, and aren't really needed now.  But, as 
you mention, we do live in different areas. And, I like where I live.  It is a 
diverse area, that is attracting new residents and urban sprawl declines and 
people move back to the city.  But, there is also a great element of 
unpredictability, and so, I am going to take a precautionary step should it 
ever be needed. 

 Owls.  Owls.  That must be so cool.  There used to be an owl that would come 
around every fall, but I think the people across the street got rid of the 
where that owl would sit.  It always caused such a ruckus among the other birds 
when he showed up.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.
 

 Whoa, so strange for me to read about actual people who own actual guns. I 
live in an area where I wouldn't have to lock anything. Not my car, not my 
house, not my tack room which contains approximately $35K worth of saddles. I 
am very fortunate. I am surrounded by law-abiding neighbors and owls, salt 
water bays and Douglas fir. I don't want to have to live in fear nor do I ever 
want to feel I should own let alone carry a gun. I am vehemently anti-gun. It 
makes no sense to me that any flawed human being should actually be carrying 
around or have access to a weapon that responds so quickly to a whim or an 
emotion that you can't take back once the bloody thing fires. No thanks. I'll 
just stay someplace where deadly weapons are not considered as essential as a 
toothbrush.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Fleetwood! Can I call you Fleeting...?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included.

God, Fleetwood, it's good to have you back.
Imagine Bawee believing, even for one eentsy beentsy moment, that sanity can
be returned to a place that has just annihilated itself through mass shooting.
Or that he would hope such a thing would happen in the first place. On top of
that Bawee, being an American and living off the fat of the land in one way or
other despite his residency in a different country, considers himself so above
such violent lunacy. But, once again, you have caught him in his own hypocrisy.
Kraft Dinner all around - on me!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams.

If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for.
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a
saner place.

Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions,
but he'll have to fight the NRA first

http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/

Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...

View on pando.com
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.

C: Are you using the big ear protector headphone looking things at the range? 
Very important. I haven't shot at a range in over a decade I really should go 
again. I remember that the vibe was very serious, it felt tense but real. I 
enjoyed shooting at the range. Something zen about learning how to relax and 
squeeze. 

 A 32 should be a pleasure to shoot. You might consider getting some of the 
special rounds for self defense that up the stopping power for a smaller gun 
like that. Your gun store guy will know. Nothing like a wheel gun for 
reliability. I have a Walthur PPK .380 (think James Bond) which is semi auto. 
If I had it to do over again I would get a revolver. If you don't hold them 
right for the kick to eject the shell case right they can jam. 

Better to have it and not need it if you are in squirrelly areas. 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Hi Curtis - you were talking about perception vs. reality, earlier, regarding 
the 'God' idea (and not to get into that again, though I appreciated some of 
your points...), and in the same way, the risk of getting shot is not great, 
although given this age of knowledge, we know about it, instantly, anywhere, 
with details, pictures, and videos. So, given the old adage, 'if it bleeds, it 
leads', if an innocent observer looked at US media coverage, we are all in 
immanent danger of crashing our cars, shooting each other, and plummeting out 
of the sky. Interesting how tech allows us to get upset, about issues which 
never actually touch us, in our daily lives. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers and the NRA 
could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make guns MORE 
available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the person who 
owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country beyond 
repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 

 

 I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of 
a gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 

C: Holland has just under 17 million people and the US has about 313 million. 
Comparing countries problems has a bit of a built in bullshit factor. We are a 
way more diverse culture with many built-in problems European countries are 
just starting to have to deal with on a much smaller scale.

Here is an interesting point from 2005 gun death study:

gun murders comprise less than a third of that total -- about 9,000 per year 
in recent years. With accidental gun deaths steady at around 500-600 per year, 
the bulk of those 32,000 gun deaths are suicides. 

Of the murder rate, which had been steadily falling, it is estimated that 1/3 
to 1/2 are drug related. Prohibition raises its ugly head again.

Could more access to mental health help stop some of those suicides? Maybe. 

I'm sure there are many advantages of living outside the US. But if you are not 
in the drug business or feel like killing yourself, getting shot is probably 
the least of my problems!












 From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 5:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I 
thought
 
 
   Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and 
I am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am 
not a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers and the NRA 
could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make guns MORE 
available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the person who 
owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country beyond 
repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 

 

 I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of 
a gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 

C: Holland has just under 17 million people and the US has about 313 million. 
Comparing countries problems has a bit of a built in bullshit factor. We are a 
way more diverse culture with many built-in problems European countries are 
just starting to have to deal with on a much smaller scale.

Here is an interesting point from 2005 gun death study:

gun murders comprise less than a third of that total -- about 9,000 per year 
in recent years. With accidental gun deaths steady at around 500-600 per year, 
the bulk of those 32,000 gun deaths are suicides. 

Of the murder rate, which had been steadily falling, it is estimated that 1/3 
to 1/2 are drug related. Prohibition raises its ugly head again.

Could more access to mental health help stop some of those suicides? Maybe. 

I'm sure there are many advantages of living outside the US. But if you are not 
in the drug business or feel like killing yourself, getting shot is probably 
the least of my problems!












 From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 5:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I 
thought
 
 
   Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and 
I am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am 
not a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Right, America is overwhelmingly against any form of gun control. 

 Oh, wait...
 

 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/160085/americans-back-obama-proposals-address-gun-violence.aspx
 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/160085/americans-back-obama-proposals-address-gun-violence.aspx

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
 View on pando.com 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

yep, from zip guns, to 3D printers.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Doesn't take much technology to build a completely new one, from scratch,
either!
On Friday, May 9, 2014 8:09 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks.
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for
protection, as for target shooting.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to check if a gun
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other,
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions,
but he'll have to fight the NRA first

http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/

Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger
than its gun problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers 
and the NRA could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make 
guns MORE available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the 
person who owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country 
beyond repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 


I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of a 
gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 

C: Holland has just under 17 million people and the US has about 313 million. 
Comparing countries problems has a bit of a built in bullshit factor. We are a 
way more diverse culture with many built-in problems European countries are 
just starting to have to deal with on a much smaller scale.

I'm going to have to quibble with the bullshit factor comment, Curtis. Yes, 
the Netherlands has fewer overall people than the U.S., and yes, it has fewer 
guns because owning and carrying guns *never* gained a foothold here the way it 
did in the U.S.

But Amsterdam actually has a significantly *higher* population density than 
Washington, DC (12,670/sq mi as opposed to Washington's 9,316.4/sq mi). Seems 
to me that we should be able to compare gun homicide statistics in two cities 
of a similar density. 

Doing so, I find that in 2010 the average rate of gun homicides in Washington, 
DC seems to have been 21.9 per 10,000 people and the average rate of gun 
homicides in Amsterdam seems to have been 0.29 per 10,000 people. That puts 
Washington's rate about *75 times higher* than Amsterdam's. 

So I'm back to America has a people problem. 

Here is an interesting point from 2005 gun death study:

gun murders comprise less than a third of that total -- about 9,000 per 
year in recent years. With accidental gun deaths steady at around 
500-600 per year, the bulk of those 32,000 gun deaths are suicides. 

Of the murder rate, which had been steadily falling, it is estimated that 1/3 
to 1/2 are drug related. Prohibition raises its ugly head again.

Could more access to mental health help stop some of those suicides? Maybe. 

We're back to Andy Borowitz' perceptive one-liner:



I'm sure there are many advantages of living outside the US. But if you are not 
in the drug business or feel like killing yourself, getting shot is probably 
the least of my problems!

True. 

But how about the issue of feeling safe? I haven't felt *unsafe* walking 
anywhere, at any time of day or night, in any city I've lived in or visited in 
Europe since I moved here in 2003. This statement includes *supposed* 
high-crime areas of Amsterdam, Paris, Barcelona, and Marseilles. Hearkening 
back to what I said earlier about population density, Paris' is one of the 
highest in Europe, at 55,000/sq mi. And still no feelings of being unsafe, 
anywhere.   

That *absence* of the near-constant fear of random crime is one of the best 
parts of living outside the U.S. Yes, there are places on the planet that are 
worse, but that doesn't alter the fact that the country that considers itself 
the best in so many things is one of the most dangerous to its own citizens 
on the planet. 

One of the things I don't miss is that near-constant fear. People in big cities 
in America just get used to it, so much so that they don't realize that they're 
walking around in an adrenalin-pumped-up state all the time, with part of their 
awareness always wasted sustaining low-level fight-or-flight mode. Somehow I 
don't think this is the reduction of stress Maharishi promised to the country 
that has the highest percentage of TMers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Not really my conversation, but I thought it was also mentioned that diversity 
plays a factor.  Holland is probably more homogeneous in terms of population 
make up, and probably has a higher per capita income than the places in the US 
where there is more gun violence. 

 On the other hand, I just read or heard somewhere that when it comes to traits 
that make people more prone to be creative, the US, is at the top.  So, for all 
the problems, there are quite a few offsets.
 

 And let's face it, you feel the same way as evidenced by the fact that you are 
a large consumer of American culture, much of it violent based.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers and the NRA 
could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make guns MORE 
available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the person who 
owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country beyond 
repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 

 

 I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of 
a gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 

C: Holland has just under 17 million people and the US has about 313 million. 
Comparing countries problems has a bit of a built in bullshit factor. We are a 
way more diverse culture with many built-in problems European countries are 
just starting to have to deal with on a much smaller scale.

I'm going to have to quibble with the bullshit factor comment, Curtis. Yes, 
the Netherlands has fewer overall people than the U.S., and yes, it has fewer 
guns because owning and carrying guns *never* gained a foothold here the way it 
did in the U.S.

But Amsterdam actually has a significantly *higher* population density than 
Washington, DC (12,670/sq mi as opposed to Washington's 9,316.4/sq mi). Seems 
to me that we should be able to compare gun homicide statistics in two cities 
of a similar density. 

Doing so, I find that in 2010 the average rate of gun homicides in Washington, 
DC seems to have been 21.9 per 10,000 people and the average rate of gun 
homicides in Amsterdam seems to have been 0.29 per 10,000 people. That puts 
Washington's rate about *75 times higher* than Amsterdam's. 

So I'm back to America has a people problem. 

Here is an interesting point from 2005 gun death study:

gun murders comprise less than a third of that total -- about 9,000 per year 
in recent years. With accidental gun deaths steady at around 500-600 per year, 
the bulk of those 32,000 gun deaths are suicides. 

Of the murder rate, which had been steadily falling, it is estimated that 1/3 
to 1/2 are drug related. Prohibition raises its ugly head again.

Could more access to mental health help stop some of those suicides? Maybe. 

We're back to Andy Borowitz' perceptive one-liner:

 


I'm sure there are many advantages of living outside the US. But if you are not 
in the drug business or feel like killing yourself, getting shot is probably 
the least of my problems!

True. 

But how about the issue of feeling safe? I haven't felt *unsafe* walking 
anywhere, at any time of day or night, in any city I've lived in or visited in 
Europe since I moved here in 2003. This statement includes *supposed* 
high-crime areas of Amsterdam, Paris, Barcelona, and Marseilles. Hearkening 
back to what I said earlier about population density, Paris' is one of the 
highest in Europe, at 55,000/sq mi. And still no feelings of being unsafe, 
anywhere.   

That *absence* of the near-constant fear of random crime is one of the best 
parts of living outside the U.S. Yes, there are places on the planet that are 
worse, but that doesn't alter the fact that the country that considers itself 
the best in so many things is one of the most dangerous to its own citizens 
on the planet. 

One of the things I don't miss is that near-constant fear. People in big cities 
in America just get used to it, so much so that they don't realize that they're 
walking around in an adrenalin-pumped-up state all the time, with part of their 
awareness always wasted sustaining low-level fight-or-flight mode. Somehow I 
don't think this is the reduction of stress Maharishi promised to the country 
that has the highest percentage of TMers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 5/9/2014 9:37 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
That said, if I were writing this from, say, Uganda or the Ukraine, I 
might have a Glock in an EZ-Out holster mounted under my desk. 


Almost everything you're saying about firearms is illegal - it's against 
the law in Uganda to mount a Glock under your desk. Go figure.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than 
I thought

Not really my conversation, but I thought it was also mentioned that diversity 
plays a factor.  Holland is probably more homogeneous in terms of population 
make up, and probably has a higher per capita income than the places in the US 
where there is more gun violence.

While the higher income may be true for many people, it isn't for all. And 
according to the last figures I've seen for both countries, the U.S. and the 
Netherlands have around the same percentage of their population representing 
European Caucasian descent. The Netherlands is the most *diverse* place I've 
ever lived in terms of seeing people from other countries and cultures settle 
in and become Dutch citizens. Over 40% of the population of Leiden are ex-pats 
from some foreign country.  

On the other hand, I just read or heard somewhere that when it comes to traits 
that make people more prone to be creative, the US, is at the top.  So, for all 
the problems, there are quite a few offsets.

I would have to see the actual study and examine its protocols and the measures 
used to define creativity before I'd believe this. If you know of the source 
of the actual study (*not* the Abstract or a pop writeup of it), I'd be 
interested in seeing it. 

And let's face it, you feel the same way as evidenced by the fact that you are 
a large consumer of American culture, much of it violent based.

Onscreen violence doesn't bother me. Never has. So I look for *quality* in the 
movies and TV I watch. Whether that quality content is violent or not is not a 
factor. It's just that violence *sells*, which is why there is so much of it, 
whether you're watching Dutch TV or French TV or American TV. The producers are 
afraid to make much of anything that isn't a clone of something that was 
already popular elsewhere, or in another form. 

But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 5/9/2014 9:37 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
And I'm not really convinced that either of us carrying a BFG (Big 
Fucking Gun) would make even that encounter more productive.  :-)


Things don't seem to have changed much over there - the average citizens 
are, for all practical purposes, defenseless. Go figure.


Anders Behring Breivik murdered 69 teenagers in cold blood in Norway - 
he was found to be insane (diagnosed as having narcissistic personality 
disorder) and given a prison sentence of 21 years.


Twenty-one years. What!?

http://www.npr.org/2012/08/24/159975478/breivik-sentenced-to-prison-for-norways-mass-murder

Breivik claims that in 2002 (at the age of 23) he started a 
nine-year-plan to finance the 2011 attacks, founding his own computer 
programming business...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks for your reply.  The bit about American and creativity was a short piece 
on the radio.  They came at it from a slightly different angle, that's why I 
remembered it.   

 But there is no doubt, American is a violent place.  
 

 I mean just this recent experience of me getting acquainted with my two guns 
was kind of strange.  Having a gun can imbue one with a sudden sense of power.  
And that feeling in the hands of an immature kid, without much discipline 
doesn't make for a good outcome. 
 

 I defer to your analysis of content on TV etc.  I tend not to be a large 
consumer.  I watch for a few minutes and then I find I've spent more time than 
I planned. 
 

 Now, lately we've been going to a lot more movies.  The independents.  So, I 
think I'm developing more of a critical eye along those lines.
 

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 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than 
I thought
 
 
   Not really my conversation, but I thought it was also mentioned that 
diversity plays a factor.  Holland is probably more homogeneous in terms of 
population make up, and probably has a higher per capita income than the places 
in the US where there is more gun violence.
 

 While the higher income may be true for many people, it isn't for all. And 
according to the last figures I've seen for both countries, the U.S. and the 
Netherlands have around the same percentage of their population representing 
European Caucasian descent. The Netherlands is the most *diverse* place I've 
ever lived in terms of seeing people from other countries and cultures settle 
in and become Dutch citizens. Over 40% of the population of Leiden are ex-pats 
from some foreign country.  

 


 On the other hand, I just read or heard somewhere that when it comes to traits 
that make people more prone to be creative, the US, is at the top.  So, for all 
the problems, there are quite a few offsets.
 

 I would have to see the actual study and examine its protocols and the 
measures used to define creativity before I'd believe this. If you know of 
the source of the actual study (*not* the Abstract or a pop writeup of it), I'd 
be interested in seeing it. 

And let's face it, you feel the same way as evidenced by the fact that you are 
a large consumer of American culture, much of it violent based.
 
Onscreen violence doesn't bother me. Never has. So I look for *quality* in the 
movies and TV I watch. Whether that quality content is violent or not is not a 
factor. It's just that violence *sells*, which is why there is so much of it, 
whether you're watching Dutch TV or French TV or American TV. The producers are 
afraid to make much of anything that isn't a clone of something that was 
already popular elsewhere, or in another form. 

But if you were trying to say that I consider America the most creative in 
the arts, that is simply not true. I consider a tiny, tiny portion of American 
TV and movie content good enough to watch. The best and most consistently 
creative television in the world is being made in Denmark right now, with other 
parts of Scandinavia close behind. Many of the TV series you probably consider 
American and thus creative were pure ripoffs of Danish TV series, from The 
Killing to The Bridge to (soon) Mammon. There is no creativity in 
remaking a foreign TV series, and succeeding only in making a shittier version 
in English.

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