[Felvtalk] thanks for your help!

2012-04-23 Thread Anna Waltman
Hi Jenny,
Thanks for your helpful emails-- this listserv is a lifesaver. I really
hope you're right that this is an infection and treatable; Sylvia is such a
wonderful cat. I'll keep an eye out for anything from Laura, as well, and
bring up your treatment regimen when I see the vet again on Wednesday.
Sylvia seems stable at the moment. She's out from under the bed, at least,
and has curled up on the couch instead. She's still eating, and she hasn't
been trying to get away from me when I pick her up to hold her (she wasn't
interested in any kind of cuddles at all on Friday). Yesterday her fever
had come down from 105 to 103 (I'm checking every 24hrs). She's had an
injection of Convenia and the vet has me giving her broad-spectrum oral
antibiotics (Zeniquin) daily as well. We go back to the vet on Wed. for
more bloodwork and to see if she's improving at all. Fingers crossed!
Thanks again!
Best,
Anna, Sylvia, and Beatrice

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2012-04-23 Thread terri byers
if they catch it in time they can i had two of my cats have it and they caught 
it in time

 


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Subject: [Felvtalk] thanks for your help!
  

Hi Jenny,
Thanks for your helpful emails-- this listserv is a lifesaver. I really hope 
you're right that this is an infection and treatable; Sylvia is such a 
wonderful cat. I'll keep an eye out for anything from Laura, as well, and bring 
up your treatment regimen when I see the vet again on Wednesday. Sylvia seems 
stable at the moment. She's out from under the bed, at least, and has curled up 
on the couch instead. She's still eating, and she hasn't been trying to get 
away from me when I pick her up to hold her (she wasn't interested in any kind 
of cuddles at all on Friday). Yesterday her fever had come down from 105 to 103 
(I'm checking every 24hrs). She's had an injection of Convenia and the vet has 
me giving her broad-spectrum oral antibiotics (Zeniquin) daily as well. We go 
back to the vet on Wed. for more bloodwork and to see if she's improving at 
all. Fingers crossed!
Thanks again!
Best,
Anna, Sylvia, and Beatrice

-- 
Anna E. Waltman
PhD student  Teaching Associate
Department of English and American Literature
University of Massachusetts, Amherst


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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies

2011-11-21 Thread Marcia
Weakness in the rear legs can also be a sign of chronic renal failure. 
Especially at that age.

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On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:10 AM, danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com 
wrote:

 I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a 
 bit more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.
 
 I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
 been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
 without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).
 
 Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
 was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
 rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
 tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
 didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
 negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
 older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.
 
 Although Buster lived amicably with my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The 
 new cat caused Buster a lot of stress.  I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, 
 Feliway etc.  Finally, after about a year, things settled down.  I never saw 
 any wounds, on either cat, but I know there were 'minor' fights as I found 
 tufts of hair around (including once or twice hanging out of Buster's mouth!) 
  They still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of one another's way
 
 My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
 pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
 miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
 kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.
 
 I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful 
 at times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a 
 tooth, or two just disintegrated when she was cleaning his teeth.  Last time 
 he was under (2010) she said his throat appeared inflamed, but I do pill him 
 everyday and I am sure that caused that inflammation
 
 He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
 throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
 food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.
 
 I will look at his gums tomorrow.
 
 Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying 
 my best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only to 
 keep him happy, comfortable and with me.  I finally realized, he won't get 
 well.  I do think he wants to stay alive.  Although failing, he sits with me, 
 sleeps with me, communicates with me etc.  He does have muscle weakness in 
 the back end.  He can't sit to groom without falling.  
 
 One odd thing, that I have never been able to figure out, is when he sits, 
 his bottom doesn't touch the floor?  And, now,  to lay down he has to 
 kinda settle himself carefully.  Something is hurting I am sure.
 
 Not sure why this 'phone vet' thought FeLV except for the inappetance.  But, 
 when I looked at the Cornell site, Buster had more than half the symptoms.  I 
 do know that these are common symptoms for many illnesses.
 
 Maybe he doesn't have FeLV, and maybe he does.  It's a great comfort to 
 me to have a sounding board and to hear how others are treating their kitties.
 
 Buster has just begun sneezing, just a bit, but no blood.
 
 In general, how long do FeLV cats live without Interferon etc?  Can they be 
 kept alive with the right drugs, or 3 years is pretty much it, plus or minus?
 
 Thanks!
 
 PS  All my cats share common food and water bowls and litter box.
 
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2011-11-17 Thread Beth Noren
Another side-effect of pred is bone loss.  One of mine was on it for 1.5-2
years and broke his hind leg.  Very slow to heal, was pinned for quite a
long time.  He is off it now.
Having trouble eating and having an irritated throat - is it possible he
has developed a stricture from getting pilled each day?  I don't have any
experience with it myself, but have read that giving a little water after
each pill can help to avoid this...

Best wishes,
Beth N.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects
 of long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5
 years but a couple or 3.
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2011-11-17 Thread Maureen Olvey

I cut pills in half and give them with cheese wiz.  That may help if the pills 
by themselves are aggravating his throat.  Just a thought.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:46:12 -0500
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies

Another side-effect of pred is bone loss.  One of mine was on it for 1.5-2 
years and broke his hind leg.  Very slow to heal, was pinned for quite a long 
time.  He is off it now.
Having trouble eating and having an irritated throat - is it possible he has 
developed a stricture from getting pilled each day?  I don't have any 
experience with it myself, but have read that giving a little water after each 
pill can help to avoid this...


Best wishes,
Beth N.


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Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects of 
long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5 years but a 
couple or 3.
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2011-11-16 Thread danbin...@netzero.com
I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a bit 
more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.

I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).

Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.

Although Buster lived amicably with my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The new 
cat caused Buster a lot of stress.  I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, Feliway 
etc.  Finally, after about a year, things settled down.  I never saw any 
wounds, on either cat, but I know there were 'minor' fights as I found tufts of 
hair around (including once or twice hanging out of Buster's mouth!)  They 
still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of one another's way

My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.

I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful at 
times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a tooth, or 
two just disintegrated when she was cleaning his teeth.  Last time he was under 
(2010) she said his throat appeared inflamed, but I do pill him everyday and I 
am sure that caused that inflammation

He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.

I will look at his gums tomorrow.

Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying my 
best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only to keep 
him happy, comfortable and with me.  I finally realized, he won't get well.  I 
do think he wants to stay alive.  Although failing, he sits with me, sleeps 
with me, communicates with me etc.  He does have muscle weakness in the back 
end.  He can't sit to groom without falling.  

One odd thing, that I have never been able to figure out, is when he sits, his 
bottom doesn't touch the floor?  And, now,  to lay down he has to kinda 
settle himself carefully.  Something is hurting I am sure.

Not sure why this 'phone vet' thought FeLV except for the inappetance.  But, 
when I looked at the Cornell site, Buster had more than half the symptoms.  I 
do know that these are common symptoms for many illnesses.

Maybe he doesn't have FeLV, and maybe he does.  It's a great comfort to me 
to have a sounding board and to hear how others are treating their kitties.

Buster has just begun sneezing, just a bit, but no blood.

In general, how long do FeLV cats live without Interferon etc?  Can they be 
kept alive with the right drugs, or 3 years is pretty much it, plus or minus?

Thanks!

PS  All my cats share common food and water bowls and litter box.

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2011-11-16 Thread Marta Gasper
Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects of 
long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5 years but a 
couple or 3.
I also think that his sitting not touching the floor is due to either arthritis 
and/or muscle pain. If his muscles are weakening he'll be in pain.
I've two cats that do it and one of the rescue kittens did it recently(she hurt 
her back via bad fall, she's much better but it was scary)
I also have another kitten that was dx with muscle wasting(birth defect) he 
doesn't sit normally either.
 
I understand your feelings and am sorry for what you are going throught, a 15 
year old is frail and lots of infirmities like an elderly person. So you are 
doing your best and giving lots of love to Buster, thats waht matters I believe.
 
IMO if he had FIP(there's no test for FIP, the lady must have meant FIV?) he 
wouldn't be with you now and if he had FeLV probably not either. I do have a 
cat for adoption that is 10 yrs old and tested FIV+ twice, that to me is 
remarkable b/c he was a cat that owner kept outside, I wouldn't expect it to 
live this long being exposed to so much.
Marta


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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 4:10 AM


I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a bit 
more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.

I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).

Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.

Although Buster lived amicably with my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The new 
cat caused Buster a lot of stress.  I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, Feliway 
etc.  Finally, after about a year, things settled down.  I never saw any 
wounds, on either cat, but I know there were 'minor' fights as I found tufts of 
hair around (including once or twice hanging out of Buster's mouth!)  They 
still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of one another's way

My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.

I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful at 
times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a tooth, or 
two just disintegrated when she was cleaning his teeth.  Last time he was under 
(2010) she said his throat appeared inflamed, but I do pill him everyday and I 
am sure that caused that inflammation

He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.

I will look at his gums tomorrow.

Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying my 
best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only to keep 
him happy, comfortable and with me.  I finally realized, he won't get well.  I 
do think he wants to stay alive.  Although failing, he sits with me, sleeps 
with me, communicates with me etc.  He does have muscle weakness in the back 
end.  He can't sit to groom without falling.  

One odd thing, that I have never been able to figure out, is when he sits, his 
bottom doesn't touch the floor?  And, now,  to lay down he has to kinda 
settle himself carefully.  Something is hurting I am sure.

Not sure why this 'phone vet' thought FeLV except for the inappetance.  But, 
when I looked at the Cornell site, Buster had more than half the symptoms.  I 
do know that these are common symptoms for many illnesses.

Maybe he doesn't have FeLV, and maybe he does.  It's a great comfort to me 
to have a sounding board and to hear how others are treating their kitties.

Buster has just begun sneezing, just a bit, but no blood.

In general, how long do FeLV cats live without Interferon etc?  Can they be 
kept alive with the right drugs, or 3 years is pretty much it, plus or minus?

Thanks!

PS  All my cats share common food and water bowls and litter box.

debbie

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2011-11-16 Thread Maureen Olvey

Marta - 

I have an FIV + cat that is like 12 or 13 yrs old (we don't know for sure but 
that's what I think) with no sign of giving up the ghost as my husband says.  
He used to live indoor/outdoor I believe.  So these FIV kitties can live a 
fairly long life.  My friend's FIV kitties have always lived into their teens.  
My cat, a former foster, had a really bad URI when I got him three years ago 
and the vet wasn't sure he'd recover since he had FIV.  A two week round of 
Clavamox was all it took and he was fine.

Just thought I'd share in case anyone was worried about the lifespan of a cat 
with FIV.  I'd rather a cat test positive for FIV rather than FeLV.  His 
chances are better and he's not as contagious.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:56:23 -0800
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies

Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects of 
long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5 years but a 
couple or 3.
I also think that his sitting not touching the floor is due to either arthritis 
and/or muscle pain. If his muscles are weakening he'll be in pain.
I've two cats that do it and one of the rescue kittens did it recently(she hurt 
her back via bad fall, she's much better but it was scary)
I also have another kitten that was dx with muscle wasting(birth defect) he 
doesn't sit normally either.
 
I understand your feelings and am sorry for what you are going throught, a 15 
year old is frail and lots of infirmities like an elderly person. So you are 
doing your best and giving lots of love to Buster, thats waht matters I believe.
 
IMO if he had FIP(there's no test for FIP, the lady must have meant FIV?) he 
wouldn't be with you now and if he had FeLV probably not either. I do have a 
cat for adoption that is 10 yrs old and tested FIV+ twice, that to me is 
remarkable b/c he was a cat that owner kept outside, I wouldn't expect it to 
live this long being exposed to so much.
Marta


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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 4:10 AM


I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a bit 
more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.

I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).

Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.

Although Buster lived amicably with
 my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The new cat caused Buster a lot of stress. 
 I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, Feliway etc.  Finally, after about a year, 
things settled down.  I never saw any wounds, on either cat, but I know there 
were 'minor' fights as I found tufts of hair around (including once or twice 
hanging out of Buster's mouth!)  They still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of 
one another's way

My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.

I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful at 
times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a tooth, or 
two just disintegrated when she
 was cleaning his teeth.  Last time he was under (2010) she said his throat 
appeared inflamed, but I do pill him everyday and I am sure that caused that 
inflammation

He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.

I will look at his gums tomorrow.

Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying my 
best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only

Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for your messages of condolence

2010-09-30 Thread Cougar Clan
They do.  Dixie sent me Copper (a tiny kitten from the same pine  
thicket she came from) a month after she left and Thomas (another tiny  
kitten from the same pine thicket) two weeks latertake two, they  
are small.


And the ones that are sent are so special.

I am sorry for your loss and those of others on this list.  Dixie was  
FeLV+.  The boys are negative (thank you Lord).  I don't know who was  
the happiest when they were tested, the vets and their staff or me.
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:46 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET ANOTHER, THEY WILL COME TO YOU.   
EVERY TIME I LOOSE ONE, ANOTHER SHOWS UP.  BOB PASSED RECENTLY AND I  
EXPECT SOMEONE TO SHOW UP SOON.



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I wanted to say a thank you for all your heartfelt messages of  
condolence for me
and my Cheshire.  You all are so kind, I wasn't expecting so many  
replies.  It's
a consolation to know so many people understand what it's like.   
The most
important thing is that she knew and still knows how much she's  
loved by me and

everyone who knew her.  I feel she's still with me.  Thanks Beth,
Catherine, Mike, Bonnie, Sharyl, Sherry Sara for lighting the  
candle for us,
Natalie for your poem, I want to hang it up, it sounds so true!
LauraM - I'm
sure Tiger knew how much you love him and that you were with him in  
spirit when

he passed, that's what matters, and the time

you spent together. I've been told that if you lose an animal, you  
go out

and get a new one, their soul may come back..   thanks all!!!



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2010-09-29 Thread Claudia Veiga
I wanted to say a thank you for all your heartfelt messages of condolence for 
me 
and my Cheshire.  You all are so kind, I wasn't expecting so many replies.  
It's 
a consolation to know so many people understand what it's like.  The most 
important thing is that she knew and still knows how much she's loved by me and 
everyone who knew her.  I feel she's still with me.  Thanks Beth, 
Catherine, Mike, Bonnie, Sharyl, Sherry Sara for lighting the candle for us, 
Natalie for your poem, I want to hang it up, it sounds so true!   LauraM - I'm 
sure Tiger knew how much you love him and that you were with him in spirit when 
he passed, that's what matters, and the time 

you spent together. I've been told that if you lose an animal, you go out 
and get a new one, their soul may come back..   thanks all!!!


  
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2010-09-29 Thread dlgegg
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET ANOTHER, THEY WILL COME TO YOU.  EVERY TIME I 
LOOSE ONE, ANOTHER SHOWS UP.  BOB PASSED RECENTLY AND I EXPECT SOMEONE TO SHOW 
UP SOON.  


 Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I wanted to say a thank you for all your heartfelt messages of condolence for 
 me 
 and my Cheshire.  You all are so kind, I wasn't expecting so many replies.  
 It's 
 a consolation to know so many people understand what it's like.  The most 
 important thing is that she knew and still knows how much she's loved by me 
 and 
 everyone who knew her.  I feel she's still with me.  Thanks Beth, 
 Catherine, Mike, Bonnie, Sharyl, Sherry Sara for lighting the candle for us, 
 Natalie for your poem, I want to hang it up, it sounds so true!   LauraM - 
 I'm 
 sure Tiger knew how much you love him and that you were with him in spirit 
 when 
 he passed, that's what matters, and the time 
 
 you spent together. I've been told that if you lose an animal, you go out 
 and get a new one, their soul may come back..   thanks all!!!
 
 
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for your messages of condolence

2010-09-29 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You are most welcome, Claudia.  I know the loss of an animal friend is 
something not all people understand, so it is a gift to have caring support 
and condolences from those who do.
I wish you the best of everything on your path, and in your beautiful 
connection to other creatures.

~Bonnie
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From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks for your messages of condolence


I wanted to say a thank you for all your heartfelt messages of condolence 
for me
and my Cheshire. You all are so kind, I wasn't expecting so many replies. 
It's

a consolation to know so many people understand what it's like. The most
important thing is that she knew and still knows how much she's loved by 
me and

everyone who knew her. I feel she's still with me. Thanks Beth,
Catherine, Mike, Bonnie, Sharyl, Sherry Sara for lighting the candle for 
us,
Natalie for your poem, I want to hang it up, it sounds so true! LauraM - 
I'm
sure Tiger knew how much you love him and that you were with him in spirit 
when

he passed, that's what matters, and the time

you spent together. I've been told that if you lose an animal, you go out
and get a new one, their soul may come back.. thanks all!!!



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[Felvtalk] Thanks Jenny--- Kia

2010-05-02 Thread kia


 
Hi all,
Jenny,
Thanks for the info on the vitamins. Can I get the vitamin C and add it to her 
food as well? This vet only offered me two suggestions. The meds I mentioned 
and chemo. No way could I afford chemo treatments unfortunately. If I could 
give Kia something natural while not being expensive I would definitely try. I 
don't know if the vet would be open to IV vitamin C or not. Would have to ask. 
Please let me know about dosages for those vitamins. Kia is  only about 6.7 
lbs now.  
I agree that most researchers aren't interested in curing animals of their 
diseases. Guess there isn't enough money in it for them.
Thanks again for the help.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks Jenny--- Kia

2010-05-02 Thread Cougar Clan

Any chance of finding another vet???

Re chemo:  That is what the experts wanted to do to the Royal Princess  
Kitty Katt for cancer.  I talked to her regular vets and we decided  
that the chemo would take an awful toll on Kitty, making her  
miserable.  We opted to do nothing.  This is what I chose based on her  
personality and the very honest information I got from my vets at  
Middletown Animal Clinic.  Sometimes you need to get an objective  
opinion and information about a lot of things.  You can't afford it.   
Do not feel bad about that.  This may be a kindness.


Do you have access to a homeopathic vet?  I have a wonderful one who  
has treated six of my wonderful guys and girls for various things.   
Just an idea.

On May 2, 2010, at 5:17 PM, kia wrote:





Hi all,

Jenny,
Thanks for the info on the vitamins. Can I get the vitamin C and  
add it to her food as well? This vet only offered me two  
suggestions. The meds I mentioned and chemo. No way could I afford  
chemo treatments unfortunately. If I could give Kia something  
natural while not being expensive I would definitely try. I don't  
know if the vet would be open to IV vitamin C or not. Would have to  
ask. Please let me know about dosages for those vitamins. Kia is   
only about 6.7 lbs now.
I agree that most researchers aren't interested in curing animals  
of their diseases. Guess there isn't enough money in it for them.

Thanks again for the help.
janet











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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks Jenny--- Kia

2010-05-02 Thread jbero tds.net
Janet,

Probably the best approach to the vitamins is to do cod liver oil - nordic
natural pet cod liver oil.  It contains the fish oil, vitamin A and Vitamin
D.  You can order this online or get it from pretty much any holistic vet.
I believe the dosage is one quarter teaspoon daily, but check the label to
be sure.  You can add Vitamin E - 50 - 75 IU daily.  I would be somewhat
cautious with the vitamin E as it can cause blood thinning and hemorrhage at
too high a dose.  75 should be fine, but I may only do this every other day
for a period of two to three weeks.  Vitamin C, IV  dosage is really the
only dosage seen to treat lymphomas but if that is not an option the oral
route can't hurt.  It has not, however, shown the same results as IV
dosage.  You can get Mega C - this formula also contains vitamin A, D and
E.  For that reason, I would probably only give 20 IU or Vitamin E
additionally.  So overall, this is what I'd do

Cod Liver Oil - 1/4 teaspoon daily (check label to be certain)
Mega C - 1/4 teaspoon daily
Vitamin E - 20 IU every other day for two to three weeks.

I would just order the nordic natural pet cod liver oil and mega C over the
internet and get the vitamin E from a health store.  All told, this
shouldn't cost more than 50-60 dollars and you should have enough for quite
awhile.

The only concern I would have is that the Vitamin A dosage will be quite
high with this combination, but studies have shown cats to very tolerable of
vitamin A.  I would only recommend watching for any signs of toxicity
including lethary, anorexia, stumbling or limping.  If you see any of this,
stop treatment immediately.  I do not see it being a problem but be
watchful, all treatments carry some risk.  I would still treat the ear
infection with otomax or some other topical treatment that vet should have
prescribed.  The oral infection may improve with this orthomolecular
treatment.

Hope that helps and good luck.

Jenny

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, kia kia...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Hi all,
 Jenny,
 Thanks for the info on the vitamins. Can I get the vitamin C and add it to
 her food as well? This vet only offered me two suggestions. The meds I
 mentioned and chemo. No way could I afford chemo treatments unfortunately.
 If I could give Kia something natural while not being expensive I would
 definitely try. I don't know if the vet would be open to IV vitamin C or
 not. Would have to ask. Please let me know about dosages for those vitamins.
 Kia is  only about 6.7 lbs now.
 I agree that most researchers aren't interested in curing animals of their
 diseases. Guess there isn't enough money in it for them.
 Thanks again for the help.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the thoughts!

2009-10-13 Thread mitchell
Please consider looking into the product LTCI.  It is the only approved
treatment aid for FeLV and FIV cats.  The studies that have been done and
through others experiences; the treatment has very promising results.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Anna Waltman anna.walt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Thanks for the kind thoughts and advice regarding Sylvia's recent positive
 diagnosis.  She and I both really appreciate and feel encouraged by your
 support.

 Beatrice goes for her vaccine today; I am going to ask the vet tech to test
 her before giving her the vaccine.  She's about four months old, was
 negative when I adopted her at ten weeks, and from what I gather, if she's
 positive and we put her on Interferon, she may have a better chance of
 fighting it off before it gets into her bone marrow.  Thoughts? And how
 expensive is Interferon? I'm a graduate student and have a small reserve of
 funds from a loan excess check, but I'm certainly not rolling in cash.

 These two are such wonderful kitties, and excellent friends to me and each
 other.  I want them both to have the longest, happiest lives possible.  I'm
 so, so glad we have good people to turn to for advice on how to live with
 this disease!
 In solidarity,
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[Felvtalk] Thanks for the thoughts!

2009-10-09 Thread Anna Waltman
Dear all,
Thanks for the kind thoughts and advice regarding Sylvia's recent positive
diagnosis.  She and I both really appreciate and feel encouraged by your
support.

Beatrice goes for her vaccine today; I am going to ask the vet tech to test
her before giving her the vaccine.  She's about four months old, was
negative when I adopted her at ten weeks, and from what I gather, if she's
positive and we put her on Interferon, she may have a better chance of
fighting it off before it gets into her bone marrow.  Thoughts? And how
expensive is Interferon? I'm a graduate student and have a small reserve of
funds from a loan excess check, but I'm certainly not rolling in cash.

These two are such wonderful kitties, and excellent friends to me and each
other.  I want them both to have the longest, happiest lives possible.  I'm
so, so glad we have good people to turn to for advice on how to live with
this disease!
In solidarity,
Anna
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[Felvtalk] Thanks, and a personal query (Aries/Jennifer R. in PA? (was Re: Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?

2009-06-01 Thread Jean

Hi again--

One of the wonderful members here -- Gloria -- signed on to Facebook and gave 
the poster some good info on dealing with a FELV+ kitty. Thank you so much! I 
hope the person fostering the kitty can find a good place for it.

I have another question. Three years ago, I placed a FELV+ kitty, Aries, in a 
home/haven in Pennsylvania owned by a Jennifer R. I tried to email her 
yesterday, but her email abounced. 

Jennifer? Are you out there? Please email me offlist if you are.

Thanks again for everything, Felvtalkers! Your work is important, and very very 
appreciated.

Regards,

Jean


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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, and a personal query (Aries/Jennifer R. in PA? (was Re: Anyone onLiveJournal's catlovers group?

2009-06-01 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks for the kind words, Jean - glad I had time to do it and hope it  
helps in some way.  I didn't know about that group.  And re Jennifer,  
I found a couple of messages in the archives - her phone number shows  
up at 814-641-7160



---
My name is Jennifer Reihart and I run a hospice center/rescue for cats  
with FeLv. I have been doing it for over 6 years and have gotten cats  
from all over the eastern US. OH, NY, NJ, PA, NC, and even as far as  
Texas. We have a huge house, and take in cats from different areas,  
and various backgrounds and give them a place to call home. I am  
independent, my husband and I do this on our own, and out of love for  
these special cats. They have free run of the home, and get lots of  
love and attention. We currently have 13, and they all have their own  
space, however at night our bed is covered in cats.
I have gotten several cats from FeLv.org and have given them a loving  
home. We have had 3 live past 9, most live until 5 or 6, we have one  
that is 7. We don't do anything special, they get good cat food, wet  
in the morning-dry throughout the day. But what I think is our secret  
to having them live longer is lots of love. they are all used to being  
petted, kissed, and made over. Each one has it's own special  
personality, that's what I love about cats, no two are the same.
I just wanted to introduce myself to the group. We have worked a  
little with the Marley fund in NC, but mostly we take cats from  
various rescue groups and individuals who are desperate to find a good  
home for their cats. We do insist they bring the cat's here so that  
they can see the love and attention we give the cats. This set's their  
mind at ease, and makes the transition easier.

---

Gloria




On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Jean wrote:



Hi again--

One of the wonderful members here -- Gloria -- signed on to Facebook  
and gave the poster some good info on dealing with a FELV+ kitty.  
Thank you so much! I hope the person fostering the kitty can find a  
good place for it.


I have another question. Three years ago, I placed a FELV+ kitty,  
Aries, in a home/haven in Pennsylvania owned by a Jennifer R. I  
tried to email her yesterday, but her email abounced.


Jennifer? Are you out there? Please email me offlist if you are.

Thanks again for everything, Felvtalkers! Your work is important,  
and very very appreciated.


Regards,

Jean


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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.

2009-04-27 Thread Karen Griffith

Judy,

Here is another site with more information on the immune system and Transfer 
Factor.  If you decide to try it you can order it wholesale with the ID 
number I gave you and the toll free number.  I like to talk to a real person 
when I order something, so I use the toll fee number.


888-454-3374  ID# 6109801

The link to a site I have is http://powerbod.com/2/karengriffith  It has a 
lot of info.


Hope this helps.

Karen  740-992-5782  Feel free to call me if you have any questions.

- Original Message - 
From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com

To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.



Karen,

Your email is so appreciated, and I think that you are right about the 
cardiac/ pleural effusion. I was going to listen to him as soon as I got 
back from a run, but he's hidden where I can't reach him, until the next 
feeding time. I will go to the site you recommended on the Transfer 
Facton, and I will do the chicken liver thing when I can get to town. None 
available out here .


I haven't started clysis, due to the fact that I don't have the solutions 
or the needles. I did get Pedialyte and used that to dilute the cat food 
slurry as of yesterday. He seems well hydrated, not jaundiced and really 
LOOKS good. It's surprising, and heartening. But I am still on the verge 
of tears all the time.


I have written an email to my vet, and will have her see Wilson on her 
mobile rounds Wednesday, at least, maybe sooner.


As I told the vet, if Wilson were a patient of mine I would at least have 
O2 on him and get a chest xray.


Judy and Wilson




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[Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.

2009-04-26 Thread Judy Eaton
Karen,

Your email is so appreciated, and I think that you are right about the cardiac/ 
pleural effusion. I was going to listen to him as soon as I got back from a 
run, but he's hidden where I can't reach him, until the next feeding time. I 
will go to the site you recommended on the Transfer Facton, and I will do the 
chicken liver thing when I can get to town. None available out here .

I haven't started clysis, due to the fact that I don't have the solutions or 
the needles. I did get Pedialyte and used that to dilute the cat food slurry as 
of yesterday. He seems well hydrated, not jaundiced and really LOOKS good. It's 
surprising, and heartening. But I am still on the verge of tears all the time.

I have written an email to my vet, and will have her see Wilson on her mobile 
rounds Wednesday, at least, maybe sooner.

As I told the vet, if Wilson were a patient of mine I would at least have O2 on 
him and get a chest xray.

Judy and Wilson



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] thanks, all of you!

2009-04-25 Thread Sharyl

Judy, sounds like you are making progress.  I used to mix the Clinicare with 
Albert's renal canned food to make it easier to syringe.  He needed every 
calorie I could get into him.  You could also try offering a small bowl of 
Clinicare to Wilson.  Sometimes Albert liked lapping it up.  

I am lousy at pilling so I crushed and dissolved all my cats meds, mixed with a 
little food and syringed them.   
Hugs to Wilson
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] thanks, all of you!
 To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 5:21 PM
 My husband and I have been feeding
 Wilson with a syringe since last night. All three of us are
 learning, and I am grateful for the reviews of the
 supplements. I did order some Nutrical and some Clinicare on
 line. Until we get the shipment, we will continue with
 smushed pate style cat food. I think I will maybe get some
 meat baby food, too. I think they may have it at our little
 store, and we will make sure there are no onions added. We
 live 50 miles from a town, and the vets.
 
 I will not be giving the Nutrical alone, just as a good
 supplement. I may alternate the Clinicare with the diluted
 cat food. I have been adding warm water to the cat food for
 hydration, too, and the vet gave me some FortiFlora which I
 am giving him. She started him on doxycycline, which I
 didn't start giving him until yesterday. I am not sure if
 it's prophylactic against infection or what...his white
 count was good. I trust her, though. Wilson is not
 jaundiced, and really looks good, aside from having no
 energy and breathing way too fast.
 
 I am calming down, and actually Wilson is a pretty good
 patient. I have found in the past that animals really bond
 with me after I have had to give them meds--or feedings, in
 this case--even if the experience hasn't always been
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[Felvtalk] thanks, all of you!

2009-04-24 Thread Judy Eaton
My husband and I have been feeding Wilson with a syringe since last night. All 
three of us are learning, and I am grateful for the reviews of the supplements. 
I did order some Nutrical and some Clinicare on line. Until we get the 
shipment, we will continue with smushed pate style cat food. I think I will 
maybe get some meat baby food, too. I think they may have it at our little 
store, and we will make sure there are no onions added. We live 50 miles from a 
town, and the vets.

I will not be giving the Nutrical alone, just as a good supplement. I may 
alternate the Clinicare with the diluted cat food. I have been adding warm 
water to the cat food for hydration, too, and the vet gave me some FortiFlora 
which I am giving him. She started him on doxycycline, which I didn't start 
giving him until yesterday. I am not sure if it's prophylactic against 
infection or what...his white count was good. I trust her, though. Wilson is 
not jaundiced, and really looks good, aside from having no energy and breathing 
way too fast.

I am calming down, and actually Wilson is a pretty good patient. I have found 
in the past that animals really bond with me after I have had to give them 
meds--or feedings, in this case--even if the experience hasn't always been 
positive on either end!






  
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[Felvtalk] Thanks

2009-02-07 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Just wanted to thank you all for your kind words!! Means so much to me. :)
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks

2009-01-23 Thread dlgegg
i am printing them and starting a notebook since i know i can never remember 
all this.  dorlis
 Graca Azevedo mg4...@yahoo.com.br wrote: 
 Dear All,
 
I thank you all for the existence of this group and specially to Gloria, 
Heather, Jenny and Sally for answering my questions.  Now, I have to read your 
e-mails very carefully and digest the information.

Regards,
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[Felvtalk] Thanks

2009-01-22 Thread Graca Azevedo
Dear All,
 
I thank you all for the existence of this group and specially to Gloria, 
Heather, Jenny and Sally for answering my questions.  Now, I have to read your 
e-mails very carefully and digest the information.

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[Felvtalk] Thanks, everyone (re:Woodgie's and Grey's departures)

2008-12-10 Thread Anne
Kerry, Diane R. and Gloria,
Thanks so much for the kind condolences.  I feel terrible that I have not 
kept up with the list very well lately.  You guys have always been there for 
me.  I hope all your kitties are doing pretty well and all your loved ones, fur 
and skin.

I lost my epileptic lab mix, Shaft, age 12, the week before I lost Woodgie, 
so it was an awful time there.  Still hurting but you guys know how it is, so 
hard on the hearts of we who love animals.  

Hugs,
Anne and recent angels Grey, Shaft and Woodgie
P.S. Sophie is doing great, though!   For those who remember her, the little 
tortie who had her rectum destroyed by a careless vet.  So many of you 
wonderful people were there for her and me and donated, too, for her repair.  
:-)
P.P.S.  I had to go onsite to read the messages, strange how I can't read them 
via email anymore, or at least easily.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, everyone (re:Woodgie's and Grey's departures)

2008-12-10 Thread Cougar Clan
They are still with you, just in other forms.  It is hard to accept  
that but, I promise, it is true.  I lost Dixie in June.  She remains  
close and has sent me two wonderful (formerly very little) kittens to  
easy the pain.  The (formerly little) kittens condescended to leave  
their pine thicket life and become cared for kittens.  Talk to those  
who have left and they will help you thru this awful time.  Honest.
On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Anne wrote:

 Kerry, Diane R. and Gloria,
Thanks so much for the kind condolences.  I feel terrible that I  
 have not kept up with the list very well lately.  You guys have  
 always been there for me.  I hope all your kitties are doing pretty  
 well and all your loved ones, fur and skin.

I lost my epileptic lab mix, Shaft, age 12, the week before I  
 lost Woodgie, so it was an awful time there.  Still hurting but you  
 guys know how it is, so hard on the hearts of we who love animals.

 Hugs,
 Anne and recent angels Grey, Shaft and Woodgie
 P.S. Sophie is doing great, though!   For those who remember her,  
 the little tortie who had her rectum destroyed by a careless vet.   
 So many of you wonderful people were there for her and me and  
 donated, too, for her repair.  :-)
 P.P.S.  I had to go onsite to read the messages, strange how I can't  
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2008-07-25 Thread Sharyl
April, I'm sorry your baby has a heart condition.  Please do join the heart 
group.  My sweet Albert went into CHF one month after being dx with CRF.  He 
ended up being dx with severe HCM ad was only give days/weeks.  He enjoyed 
another 1 1/2 yrs.  With heart kitties you just don't know how long you will 
have.  Depending on the severity you may have yrs together.  Just like with our 
FeLV+ babies, you just enjoy every day you have together.
Sharyl

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From: April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks
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Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:29 PM

Thanks everyone for your advice especially Phoenix!  And Though I am new to this
group and don't really know anyone I still want to send a hug to you Sherry
and say I am sorry Hannessey had to go over the rainbow bridge. I have a babe
who has a heart condition and is not going to be with us long. She was my first
cat. The one who started it all and I cringe to think of life without her. But
wouldn't have given up having her for anything. 


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2008-07-24 Thread April and Jay
Thanks everyone for your advice especially Phoenix!  And Though I am new to 
this group and don't really know anyone I still want to send a hug to you 
Sherry and say I am sorry Hannessey had to go over the rainbow bridge. I have a 
babe who has a heart condition and is not going to be with us long. She was my 
first cat. The one who started it all and I cringe to think of life without 
her. But wouldn't have given up having her for anything. 


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2008-07-24 Thread Kelley Saveika
I have a baby with a heart condition too...she's the best kitty in the
world..are you a member of the Feline Heart Yahoo Group?

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 Thanks everyone for your advice especially Phoenix!  And Though I am new to
 this group and don't really know anyone I still want to send a hug to you
 Sherry and say I am sorry Hannessey had to go over the rainbow bridge. I
 have a babe who has a heart condition and is not going to be with us long.
 She was my first cat. The one who started it all and I cringe to think of
 life without her. But wouldn't have given up having her for anything.

 
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2008-07-14 Thread Sharyl
Thank you James for all you are doing to keep the e-mail portion going.  I 
really appreciate you efforts.  Do you need donations to help pay for the new 
server?
Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's 4 babies


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