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I'll try the newspapers as well. This should make washing the pans easier! thanks! t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have the patience and extra boxes you can line the bottom of a box with newspapers and top with litter. The litter needs to the poured from one box to another then the papers pulled and replaced. They absorb a lot of urine and help with odor. I've done this a few times for cats who didn't want me in their space to clean the boxes. It has been a while so you might experiment with it. If you keep an eye one Kroger's they put A and H on sale 2 for 1 every 3-4 months. Meijer's puts the silica on sale big time too. I get rain checks and stock up big time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I basically do the same thing. Clean one box and wash a day. 5 boxes. Dr. Elsey's is expensive here. I use arm and hammer or something on sale at walmart. Litter is expensive. :( t laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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Even some of the litter companies mix the crystals and scoopable. I just prefer to do it myself so I know what is what (and it is cheaper). I have gone all silica with a cat and it was great. Aside from scooping out the poop regularly the litter didn't need to be changed as long as it was absorbing urine (about a month with this guy). And no urine odor. But, for a lot of cats? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I'm going to try mixing some. I thought it should be all or nothing with the crystals. And I can't afford to go all crystals. thanks, t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers. Dixie doesn't like the pearls. They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. They don't hurt but they aggravate. She is fine with the crystals. I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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I had three cats when I tried the crystals alone, and I did *not* like the results at all.? The crystals yellowed and smelled horrible before a week was up.? They just didn't work for me at all; however, with the suggestions you guys? had, I tried mixing my Tidy Cats with crystals (I split a bag of crystals from Wal-Mart between three litterboxes and the rest Tidy Cats) and I really think it helped a lot.? I think I'm going to try sticking with that combination for a while! -Original Message- From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 8:28 am Subject: Re: Litterboxes Even some of the litter companies mix the crystals and scoopable.? I just prefer to do it myself so I know what is what (and it is cheaper).? I have gone all silica with a cat and it was great.? Aside from scooping out the poop regularly the litter didn't need to be changed as long as it was absorbing urine (about a month with this guy).? And no urine odor.? But, for a lot of cats? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ? St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I'm going to try mixing some.? I thought it should be all or nothing with the crystals.? And I can't afford to go all crystals. thanks, t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry.? silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers.? ? Dixie doesn't like the pearls.? They get stuck under her nails and in her paws.? They don't hurt but they aggravate.? She is fine with the crystals.? I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her.? ? ? ? ? ? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ? St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders.? I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. ? ? ? ? ? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ? St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.? With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs.? I'm curious about what you guys use?? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.? I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week).? This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week.? The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :(? ? So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum???What are the differences?in scoopable versus non-scoopable?? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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The pearls are horrible. They may have reformulated them now, so I think they are a little bigger (?), but originally, they were really small, perfectly round pearls and they get everywhere! Monkee would inadvertently track them out of the litter box with him on his feet and then they just roll everywhere (even with carpet) because unlike the crystals, they are round and smooth. I would find litter pearls in the oddest places of my house- the farthest corner away from the litter box and it used to drive me crazy! I also found Monkee playing with them a few times- batting them around like little beads- and trying to pick them up in his mouth! And this way before the crystal-eating due to anemia- this was back in the beginning of his reign over me- so it was definitely playing picking them up in his mouth like he would do with my beads I used for jewelry making! So, I had to stop using them immediately...he thought they were play-things! -Caroline Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:58:44 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I'm going to try mixing some. I thought it should be all or nothing with the crystals. And I can't afford to go all crystals. thanks, tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers. Dixie doesn't like the pearls. They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. They don't hurt but they aggravate. She is fine with the crystals. I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gelMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
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Dixie gets the pearls hung in her paws and, well, it irritates them. That is why she and I like the chrysals. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Litterboxes The pearls are horrible. They may have reformulated them now, so I think they are a little bigger (?), but originally, they were really small, perfectly round pearls and they get everywhere! Monkee would inadvertently track them out of the litter box with him on his feet and then they just roll everywhere (even with carpet) because unlike the crystals, they are round and smooth. I would find litter pearls in the oddest places of my house- the farthest corner away from the litter box and it used to drive me crazy! I also found Monkee playing with them a few times- batting them around like little beads- and trying to pick them up in his mouth! And this way before the crystal-eating due to anemia- this was back in the beginning of his reign over me- so it was definitely playing picking them up in his mouth like he would do with my beads I used for jewelry making! So, I had to stop using them immediately...he thought they were play-things! -Caroline Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:58:44 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Litterboxes To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I'm going to try mixing some. I thought it should be all or nothing with the crystals. And I can't afford to go all crystals. thanks, t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers. Dixie doesn't like the pearls. They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. They don't hurt but they aggravate. She is fine with the crystals. I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael
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I'm going to try mixing some. I thought it should be all or nothing with the crystals. And I can't afford to go all crystals. thanks, t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers. Dixie doesn't like the pearls. They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. They don't hurt but they aggravate. She is fine with the crystals. I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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A question on this issue: I was watching PC (outside cat who decided there was a cute little grey cat and good food here). Has anyone used or considered using sand for litter? Cheap, disposable??? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes If you have the patience and extra boxes you can line the bottom of a box with newspapers and top with litter. The litter needs to the poured from one box to another then the papers pulled and replaced. They absorb a lot of urine and help with odor. I've done this a few times for cats who didn't want me in their space to clean the boxes. It has been a while so you might experiment with it. If you keep an eye one Kroger's they put A and H on sale 2 for 1 every 3-4 months. Meijer's puts the silica on sale big time too. I get rain checks and stock up big time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I basically do the same thing. Clean one box and wash a day. 5 boxes. Dr. Elsey's is expensive here. I use arm and hammer or something on sale at walmart. Litter is expensive. :( t laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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I don't know. Needless to say PC likes the sand pile here but I don't know about bringing clean sand in. I'm having thoughts about mixing it with silica crystals (to absorb a lot of urine). With all the thoughts on litter lately I just had to ask for opinions. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes Too dusty? Would it be sanitary? I used to use Oil Dry (what mechanics put on garage floors to soak up oil). It's not scoopable, of course, but inexpensive. L - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes A question on this issue: I was watching PC (outside cat who decided there was a cute little grey cat and good food here). Has anyone used or considered using sand for litter? Cheap, disposable??? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes If you have the patience and extra boxes you can line the bottom of a box with newspapers and top with litter. The litter needs to the poured from one box to another then the papers pulled and replaced. They absorb a lot of urine and help with odor. I've done this a few times for cats who didn't want me in their space to clean the boxes. It has been a while so you might experiment with it. If you keep an eye one Kroger's they put A and H on sale 2 for 1 every 3-4 months. Meijer's puts the silica on sale big time too. I get rain checks and stock up big time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I basically do the same thing. Clean one box and wash a day. 5 boxes. Dr. Elsey's is expensive here. I use arm and hammer or something on sale at walmart. Litter is expensive. :( t laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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If you have the patience and extra boxes you can line the bottom of a box with newspapers and top with litter. The litter needs to the poured from one box to another then the papers pulled and replaced. They absorb a lot of urine and help with odor. I've done this a few times for cats who didn't want me in their space to clean the boxes. It has been a while so you might experiment with it. If you keep an eye one Kroger's they put A and H on sale 2 for 1 every 3-4 months. Meijer's puts the silica on sale big time too. I get rain checks and stock up big time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I basically do the same thing. Clean one box and wash a day. 5 boxes. Dr. Elsey's is expensive here. I use arm and hammer or something on sale at walmart. Litter is expensive. :( t laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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Sorry. silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers. Dixie doesn't like the pearls. They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. They don't hurt but they aggravate. She is fine with the crystals. I wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that upsets her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Litterboxes silica gel Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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Totally OT: But you should look into Lush.com. http://www.lush.com They make homemade, all-natural, health and beauty products. They have stores in big cities (they have a store list), but I have to do my shopping online. It is expensive, but their products are worth it. Great stuff, with minimal packaging, with a new option to request even less packaging if you want, (another one of their earth friendly things). Some products are even vegan, marked with a V symbol by the product. They make deodorant bars (listed under the link on the left-hand side entitled Close-up.)- some are vegan. I have never tried them, but they are all-natural (they list the ingredients on the site so you can check before you buy) and like everything they make, no doubt work great! This company is wonderful..., definitely try it. -Caroline Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:01:54 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Litterboxes/baking sodaTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but I actually use baking soda for deodorant. I've been trying to find a good deodorant that does not contain aluminum, which is supposed to be bad for us, and never could. Anything I did find did not work very well. I was reading online about deodorant because I began to notice that only my right armpit was having body odor all of a sudden, when I never have had much before, and read that bacteria can build up and block your pores. I read that baking soda is a great, safe alternative, and have been using it for about two months now and am very happy with it. I don't have that odor anymore, and I don't even have to use it everyday, believe it or not. I hope I didn't gross anyone out with my TMI, but I think it's a great alternative if you're looking for one and good info. to pass on. So I'm assuming it's safe for kitties to mix it in with litter. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews
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I've used Baking Soda in my litter boxes on and off for several years. It's great - have to remember to get some more, now that you've reminded me. Gloria On Oct 20, 2007, at 10:01 PM, wendy wrote: You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but I actually use baking soda for deodorant. I've been trying to find a good deodorant that does not contain aluminum, which is supposed to be bad for us, and never could. Anything I did find did not work very well. I was reading online about deodorant because I began to notice that only my right armpit was having body odor all of a sudden, when I never have had much before, and read that bacteria can build up and block your pores. I read that baking soda is a great, safe alternative, and have been using it for about two months now and am very happy with it. I don't have that odor anymore, and I don't even have to use it everyday, believe it or not. I hope I didn't gross anyone out with my TMI, but I think it's a great alternative if you're looking for one and good info. to pass on. So I'm assuming it's safe for kitties to mix it in with litter. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Michael, I have vacillated on the litter issue quite a bit in the past year. We had a conversation here a while back about how clumping litters can cause issues in cats' stomachs because they lick the litter off their feet. So I got scared and switched to SweatScoop, a wheat based litter. But it smelled so horrible after sitting in a tied plastic bag in our kitty 'dumpster' that it made me ill. Plus the clumps can get really hard and they stick to the side of the box, making the box really hard to clean. It just did not work for me like I liked. I also talked to my vet and he said he has never seen any issues due to clumping litter and uses it himself. So then I went cheaper to Tidy Cats, and it is way too dusty! Plus, I found it did not clump as well as my original (the little clumps fell apart in my auto cleaner making it not work as well), so I went back to my original, Fresh Step Scoopable for Multiple Cats, and I like it. It's more expensive than some, which is bad for me, because we have a kitty with CRF, and she pees constantly. But, I also use an automatic litter box. The one that runs very slowly all day. It's round and I ordered it off of Petco.com for about $119. Best investment I ever made. I LOVE it! No more scooping and I empty the little reservoir out, which uses plastic grocery bags (which is another great selling point), whenever I need to. It has made cleaning the litter box much less of a chore. I do have to take it completely apart every now and then and give it a thorough cleaning, including the moving gears (they get litter stick in their grooves). So if you or someone in your house is good with tinkering with things, it shouldn't be a problem. I also have two other regular boxes in the house. I do not completely change the litter out every week. Probably every 2-3 weeks, if that. As long as I scoop it regularly, the remaining litter is fine for a while. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13:23 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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If you have a Petsmart or Petco sales flyer, or even Dollar General, Wal-Mart will match the prices. Often, sales at other places can be better than Wal-Mart, which is GREAT! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:20:59 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty play sacks, etc. I just a new kitty house for Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for it. It 'cost' about 600 Paw Points, which I get in about two months (50 Paw Points per box). So this is a fun way for me to get stuff since I'm already using the litter. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I use the Paw POints to buy little too... Gloria Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty playnbsp;sacks, etc.nbsp; I just a new kitty house fornbsp;Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for it.nbsp; Itnbsp;'cost' about 600nbsp;Paw Points, which I get in about two months (50 Paw Points per box).nbsp; So this is a fun way for me to get stuff since I'm already using the litter. nbsp; Wendynbsp; Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I use the Paw POints to buy little too... Gloria Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty playnbsp;sacks, etc.nbsp; I just a new kitty house fornbsp;Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for it.nbsp; Itnbsp;'cost' about 600nbsp;Paw Points, which I get in about two months (50 Paw Points per box).nbsp; So this is a fun way for me to get stuff since I'm already using the litter. nbsp; Wendynbsp; Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I used to use only clumping clay litter, and was never that happy with it. It's terribly dusty, and I found it smelled even when it was fairly fresh. When my anemic kitty started eating it, I tried some alternatives. Now, my favorite as far as price and ease of use is: a rubbermaid container, not huge, but with deeper sides than a regular cat box. I buy a large bag of pine or cedar shavings, and a bag of Yesterday's News litter. I fill the bottom of the container with a thick layer of shavings, probably 6 inches, then a couple inches of yesterday's news on top. Then all I do is scoop the poop, and the pee soaks through down into the shavings. It smells great, and I just dump the whole thing when the shavings become quite wet. The layer of Yesterday's News gives them something to scratch around in, and keeps the pee smell from coming up from the shavings. Another litter I like is called Elegant Cat. It's shaped like Yesterday's News, but its made out of dried alfalfa or grass. This stuff clumps enough that I can scoop the pee as well, but I'm not sure how far this litter is distributed. It's made close to where I live. Cassandra
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Hi all, I use Wood Pellets for my rescues and Fresh Step for my personal cats. When it is time to dispose of the dirty litter that consist of the pellets I take it outside and dump it all over in the back. I live on 3 acres it is absorbed into the ground and it also fertilizes the area for the wild life passing through. Wood Pellets are cheap and smell good too. (#40 sacks) I will hit the feed store and buy their damaged bags at 75% off the regular price $4.50 this is a great deal because the bags are barely tore then they seal it with tape. The Fresh Step is thrown into the garbage can. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/g roup/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A H baking soda for about $4.00. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Neffie Barker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes This is very creative, haven't heard of that before. Resourceful! I may have to try it. Though I wonder how many cats you have, and how long this method lasts between changings? By the way, hi everyone! This is my first post here. My name is Neffie, and I'm from Ohio. I have 5 cats of my own, and am currently fostering 9. So far 4 of my foster kittens have tested FeLV+, and I suspect that the other 2 from the litter will test the same. By a stretch of luck, however, the Mama cat has tested negative... which is exceptionally good, as she was pregnant when I rescued her. She is due any day now, and I am keeping my fingers crossed for the new babies. I don't have any creative suggestions for litterboxes, but this has been really fun to read. For my own cats I use standard clumping litter, and scoop constantly to make it last, and to keep down on odor. My fosters get cheap clay litter, which is scooped and changed several times daily. I use a LOT of baking soda. I need to start buying it in bulk quantities. lol. None of this does anything for keeping down on garbage.. which I think explains why my trash collectors put everyone else's garbage cans neatly back in their driveway, while mine are the only ones strewn in the yard. Can really say that I blame them... by the end of the week, we have a lot of poop. :) Visit my Catster page here : http://www.catster.com/family/328292 - Original Message From: C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 2:53:49 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes I used to use only clumping clay litter, and was never that happy with it. It's terribly dusty, and I found it smelled even when it was fairly fresh. When my anemic kitty started eating it, I tried some alternatives. Now, my favorite as far as price and ease of use is: a rubbermaid container, not huge, but with deeper sides than a regular cat box. I buy a large bag of pine or cedar shavings, and a bag of Yesterday's News litter. I fill the bottom of the container with a thick layer of shavings, probably 6 inches, then a couple inches of yesterday's news on top. Then all I do is scoop the poop, and the pee soaks through down into the shavings. It smells great, and I just dump the whole thing when the shavings become quite wet. The layer of Yesterday's News gives them something to scratch around in, and keeps the pee smell from coming up from the shavings. Another litter I like is called Elegant Cat. It's shaped like Yesterday's News, but its made out of dried alfalfa or grass. This stuff clumps enough that I can scoop the pee as well, but I'm not sure how far this litter is distributed. It's made close to where I live. Cassandra __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:18:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None of this does anything for keeping down on garbage.. which I think explains why my trash collectors put everyone else's garbage cans neatly back in their driveway, while mine are the only ones strewn in the yard. Can really say that I blame them... by the end of the week, we have a lot of poop. :) LOL, Neffie! That cracked me up. I have exactly the same problem. My next door neighbor's trash cans are always placed neatly back where they were, upright and lids on. Mine are hurled back into my yard on their sides, lids and cans seperate. ~M ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:38:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A H baking soda for about $4.00. You guys just mix the baking soda in the litter? Do you think that works as well as the litter box deodorizer you buy in cans? I might consider using that instead of that expensive deodorizer. ~M ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Before I started with the silica mixture I used it all the time.still do if I have a feral cooped up for some reason (spay/sick). I am not a big fan of chemical additions and most deodorizers have some type of anti-bacterial agent or a perfuming agent in them. None of the cats who have lived with me liked any kind of fragrance in their litter and some made it very clear that it was totally unacceptable. I have put newspaper under litter to absorb urine and make the litter last longer for some less than friendly ferals. Try it and if you don't like it you have lost very little. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:38:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A H baking soda for about $4.00. You guys just mix the baking soda in the litter? Do you think that works as well as the litter box deodorizer you buy in cans? I might consider using that instead of that expensive deodorizer. ~M -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but I actually use baking soda for deodorant. I've been trying to find a good deodorant that does not contain aluminum, which is supposed to be bad for us, and never could. Anything I did find did not work very well. I was reading online about deodorant because I began to notice that only my right armpit was having body odor all of a sudden, when I never have had much before, and read that bacteria can build up and block your pores. I read that baking soda is a great, safe alternative, and have been using it for about two months now and am very happy with it. I don't have that odor anymore, and I don't even have to use it everyday, believe it or not. I hope I didn't gross anyone out with my TMI, but I think it's a great alternative if you're looking for one and good info. to pass on. So I'm assuming it's safe for kitties to mix it in with litter. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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I'm very interested Marylyn-where can I buy silica gel? Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael _ See what's new at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170 and Make AOL Your Homepage http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169 . _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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There are crystals and pearls. Dixie hates the pearls since they get between her toes. I get the plain silica, not the stuff with the blue crystals. (Meijer's) I've been told that the blue stuff can be a poison to cats, especially those with problems. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Litterboxes I only had one cat until Monkee died and then I started fostering. Litter in a one-cat household is totally different than litter in a multi cat house! When it was just Monkee, he used crystals, and then at the end Swheat Scoop because he started eating the crystals (or trying to) due to the anemia (to get silica) and I started questioning the crystals' safety, independent of his eating them. In one cat households, I strongly reccommend Swheat Scoop. It's all natural (made from Wheat), safe, and it's the best d*mn clumping litter I have ever used. Also great for odor control, even though it's not artificially scented (?). I love that stuff!!! But it's expensive. I had to give that up with the fostering and addition of more cats. With multiple cats, I have found you pretty much HAVE TO HAVE scoopable/clumping litter (or you will go crazy) and that opinion comes from experience. I Volunteer for a no-kill adoption agency and they get free litter sometimes when the store they have the cats at has a pallet of huge litter bags that breaks, something like that. I was going thru litter so fast and the agency had these huge bags of FREE litter-- only all the scoopable/clumping had already been taken. I couldn't resist the free-ness, so I took what was left: Feline Pine (which Monkee used when I first took him in from outside but he peed about 6 times a day and pine just didn't cut it). With 5 crated kittens, the pine proved to be a disaster. When they pee, it breaks down the pine. I was left with saw dust-like residue ALL over the room where the cats where crated. They would get it everywhere-- 10 feet from the crates! It was horrible and disgusting. It also did nothing to absorb the smell nor the liquid of urine (which is why Monkee loved his dehydrating crystals!). I have found the scoopable/clumping Tidy Cats to actually be the best, so I think you are using one of the best options for multi cats. Tidy Cats happens to be what the adoption agency uses in their cats condos that house 4-5 cats each, using 1 Dome litterbox per condo (that is cleaned once a day by a volunteer). It just clumps the best. Also, if you buy the cardboard box of Tidy Cats clumping (blue/green container I think?) with the white plastic handle on the top, it has a coupon on the side of it that you have to cut off. If you don't look for it, you might miss it and just throw the box out for recycling. But we are fastidious about cutting these off before discarding a box because they are very helpful. Stay away from the clay/non-scoopable varieties too, as I have had no success with these. This is when they get the clay on their feet and it won't come off unless you fully bathe them (which is not acceptable)! I bought a box of Arm Hammer clumpable claiming to be good for odor control, and I have hated it. It appears to have more clay than anything else in it and Yoda gets damp clay (from urine!) all over his back feet and it won't come off! I have to bathe him this weekend because this brand has made him so dirty. It is also really strongly scented I guess for the odor control, but it's very perfumey and I hate it. Yoda now smells like a combo of his own poo and bad old lady musky perfume from this Arm Hammer. If you have a cat who messes around in the litter box like Yoda (he's a 5 mth old kitten!) and loves getting himself dirty from his own litterbox, then do not use this! Since it sticks to Yoda like thick, gummy glue and he tries to lick it off, I am also concerned about the perfume smell- like he souldn't be ingesting that? I am using up this box, then never buying it again. When you find one that works best for you and your cats, STICK WITH IT! Don't be tempted by sales or unfounded claims of odor control and clumpingit's not worth it! Trust me. It will almost always end up in traumatic baths -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:20
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Another thought: Do you have a farm/feed store close by? Sometimes they have cheap litter. The trick with the silica is that it absorbs a lot of the urine (I had one cat that would use it straight. Dixie isn't that found of it) so you are not scooping as much and the odor is a lot less. The size of the plastic boxes makes scooping a lot easier for me too...and the high sides are a plus with older/mad/male cats who don't seem to always hit the litter. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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Well, at least I know I am not alone in this. Sometimes it just seems ridiculous the amount of trash the cats can contribute:) Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes I empty my boxes daily (ugh) and produce about 4-8 bags of trash per *day*. I have no idea how to reduce this. On 10/19/07, Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
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I empty my boxes daily (ugh) and produce about 4-8 bags of trash per *day*. I have no idea how to reduce this. On 10/19/07, Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
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Yes, I have mixed scoopable/clumping (Tidy Cats) with silica crystals before (I forgot to mention that in my previous Litter Dissertation) and it works great. I like the clumping action, but also the crystals just dehydrate the urine so well, it really helps odor control. But I know some cats are freaked out by the crystals. But Monkee loved them- he never wanted to go into his box and touch his own wet urine (oh the horror!). It was nice having an OCD cat, but now I've been cursed with the opposite...a dirty little litter-mongerer named Yoda! Monkee's at the Rainbow Bridge both horrified and laughing at me at the same time! And I'm left contemplating a Yoda name change to Stinky! -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesDate: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:32:28 -0500 Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct
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I only had one cat until Monkee died and then I started fostering. Litter in a one-cat household is totally different than litter in a multi cat house! When it was just Monkee, he used crystals, and then at the end Swheat Scoop because he started eating the crystals (or trying to) due to the anemia (to get silica) and I started questioning the crystals' safety, independent of his eating them. In one cat households, I strongly reccommend Swheat Scoop. It's all natural (made from Wheat), safe, and it's the best d*mn clumping litter I have ever used. Also great for odor control, even though it's not artificially scented (?). I love that stuff!!! But it's expensive. I had to give that up with the fostering and addition of more cats. With multiple cats, I have found you pretty much HAVE TO HAVE scoopable/clumping litter (or you will go crazy) and that opinion comes from experience. I Volunteer for a no-kill adoption agency and they get free litter sometimes when the store they have the cats at has a pallet of huge litter bags that breaks, something like that. I was going thru litter so fast and the agency had these huge bags of FREE litter-- only all the scoopable/clumping had already been taken. I couldn't resist the free-ness, so I took what was left: Feline Pine (which Monkee used when I first took him in from outside but he peed about 6 times a day and pine just didn't cut it). With 5 crated kittens, the pine proved to be a disaster. When they pee, it breaks down the pine. I was left with saw dust-like residue ALL over the room where the cats where crated. They would get it everywhere-- 10 feet from the crates! It was horrible and disgusting. It also did nothing to absorb the smell nor the liquid of urine (which is why Monkee loved his dehydrating crystals!). I have found the scoopable/clumping Tidy Cats to actually be the best, so I think you are using one of the best options for multi cats. Tidy Cats happens to be what the adoption agency uses in their cats condos that house 4-5 cats each, using 1 Dome litterbox per condo (that is cleaned once a day by a volunteer). It just clumps the best. Also, if you buy the cardboard box of Tidy Cats clumping (blue/green container I think?) with the white plastic handle on the top, it has a coupon on the side of it that you have to cut off. If you don't look for it, you might miss it and just throw the box out for recycling. But we are fastidious about cutting these off before discarding a box because they are very helpful. Stay away from the clay/non-scoopable varieties too, as I have had no success with these. This is when they get the clay on their feet and it won't come off unless you fully bathe them (which is not acceptable)! I bought a box of Arm Hammer clumpable claiming to be good for odor control, and I have hated it. It appears to have more clay than anything else in it and Yoda gets damp clay (from urine!) all over his back feet and it won't come off! I have to bathe him this weekend because this brand has made him so dirty. It is also really strongly scented I guess for the odor control, but it's very perfumey and I hate it. Yoda now smells like a combo of his own poo and bad old lady musky perfume from this Arm Hammer. If you have a cat who messes around in the litter box like Yoda (he's a 5 mth old kitten!) and loves getting himself dirty from his own litterbox, then do not use this! Since it sticks to Yoda like thick, gummy glue and he tries to lick it off, I am also concerned about the perfume smell- like he souldn't be ingesting that? I am using up this box, then never buying it again. When you find one that works best for you and your cats, STICK WITH IT! Don't be tempted by sales or unfounded claims of odor control and clumpingit's not worth it! Trust me. It will almost always end up in traumatic baths -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesDate: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:20:59 -0400 It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and
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Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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I have a rescue friend who uses something from the feed store...not litter, it is made of corn... I like the new Arm Hammer Odor Indicator litter as far as controlling odor is concerned. It is even more expensive than regular litter though. My litter bill is almost as high as my food bill:( On 10/19/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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ROTFLMAO! Little dears my foot! More like little snots! :) Yep, I have a two (2) fur-kids who absolutely LOVE to piddle on plastic; especially plastic bags! It completely baffles me as to WHY they choose to pee on top of a plastic bag that is lying on the floor, but they do. So now, it is a race for the chase of the plastic bag! Once I walk though the door with Wal-Mart bags in hand, its on! I have to fight the kids for the empty bags and quickly put them away (we recycle) before ANYone can get ahold of them. My kids have trained me well! Perhaps why a cat pees on a plastic bag will always be a mystery, I do not know. I have been doing rescue work for over 20 years and have been a cat-mom for 9 and I STILL cannot explain it. Whoever discovers which ingredient (in plastic) that cats are attracted to, will be forever rich! All he/she has to do it put that mystery ingredient in a bottle and sell it and they will make millions. Just sprinkle/spray that mystery ingredient inside any/all litter boxes (kinda like Attract-A-Cat) and cats will never be tempted to pee on plastic again! Ah! That would be the day! Until then, me and my kids continue to fight over the plastic bags! LOL. Lora --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lora, Ha! My, my you did take drastic measures! When we bought the living room furniture, we also got a new futon mattress. We were smart enough to leave it covered in the plastic it came in until Thanksgiving morning. Thank goodness we did, when I went to cut the plastic off, I found a small pond of urine in the middle! Ugh! I started looking around for someone to strangle. I do remember discussing the 'errant elimination' topic once before and was surprised at how many cats seem to like going potty on plastic. Little dears. Nina __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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The image of you racing to retrieve errant bags is so funny! We do adjust, don't we? :) N Lora wrote: ROTFLMAO! Little dears my foot! More like little snots! :) Yep, I have a two (2) fur-kids who absolutely LOVE to piddle on plastic; especially plastic bags! It completely baffles me as to WHY they choose to pee on top of a plastic bag that is lying on the floor, but they do. So now, it is a race for the chase of the plastic bag! Once I walk though the door with Wal-Mart bags in hand, its on! I have to fight the kids for the empty bags and quickly put them away (we recycle) before ANYone can get ahold of them. My kids have trained me well! Perhaps why a cat pees on a plastic bag will always be a mystery, I do not know. I have been doing rescue work for over 20 years and have been a cat-mom for 9 and I STILL cannot explain it. Whoever discovers which ingredient (in plastic) that cats are attracted to, will be forever rich! All he/she has to do it put that mystery ingredient in a bottle and sell it and they will make millions. Just sprinkle/spray that mystery ingredient inside any/all litter boxes (kinda like Attract-A-Cat) and cats will never be tempted to pee on plastic again! Ah! That would be the day! Until then, me and my kids continue to fight over the plastic bags! LOL. Lora
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Lora, Ha! My, my you did take drastic measures!When we bought the living room furniture, we also got a new futon mattress. We were smart enough to leave it covered in the plastic it came in until Thanksgiving morning. Thank goodness we did, when I went to cut the plastic off, I found a small pond of urine in the middle! Ugh! I started looking around for someone to strangle. I do remember discussing the 'errant elimination' topic once before and was surprised at how many cats seem to like going potty on plastic. Little dears. Nina Lora wrote: Yep, I truly feel your pain. It is for this sole purpose that we have finally learned, in our home, to have ALL of the fabric furniture professionally steamed upholstered and then have them wrapped in plastic. Once the plastic is professionally installed, slipcovers are fitted for each inidividual piece. Now when we have an inappropriate elimation/soiling accident or a territorial aggression spray issue, I simply take the slipcovers off and throw them in the washing machine. Of course this obviously meant that I absoultely had to purchase an industrial size washer and dryer. It is a godsend that we have a well-water hook-up (with a water-softener) to the house, otherwise we would be spending a fortune on monthly bills for city water/sewage. Even with purchasing a water-softener, septic tank, monthly bags of watersalt refills and biannually/annually septic tank maintenance/drainnig, we are saving a bundle in the long-run! Everything is going up, including utilities and water! At least I have found an effecient method to nearly eliminate ALL of the sofa cat-hair on a regular basis! :) Lora --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair! Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Lora,What does it cost to have the furniture professionally wrapped? Don't the cats just scratch the plastic and tear it so that it won't work.In the past I've covered my cushions with trash bags, taped them shut with packing tape, and then covered them with slip covers. It's a lot of work when someone then pees on the sofa to wash the slip cover, change the plastic, etc...Currently I am buying the king sized vinyl mattress covers and putting them over the back of the sofa and the cushions (leave out the arms where they never pee).Then I put a sheet over it as a slip cover and just change the sheet every day. If someone pees on the sofa I remove the vinyl pad and wash it as wellIt's working pretty well right now. What we go through with these crittersFor litterboxes, my vet buys those huge rubbermaid boxes! They take a dremel tool and cut a little opening on one side and it holds a lot of litter, is large, and prevents so much litter being kicked out due to the large size. Just one more idea.Last, I also use the large cement mixing tubs and set the regular sized litterboxes inside of the larger tub. Prevents a lot of litter 'kick' out and 'butt out' accidents, but does require washing two litterboxes each time instead of the one.This works well with the sifting liners for me. I tuck the edges of the liners under the regular sized box, but inside the cement tub.Just some ideas!!tLora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, I truly feel your pain.It is for this sole purpose that we have finallylearned, in our home, to have ALL of the fabricfurniture professionallysteamed upholstered and then have them wrapped inplastic.Once the plastic is professionally installed,slipcovers are fitted for each inidividual piece.Now when we have an inappropriate elimation/soiling"accident" or a territorial aggression spray "issue,"I simply take the slipcovers off and throw them in thewashing machine.Of course this obviously meant that I absoultely hadto purchase an industrial size washer and dryer.It is a godsend that we have a well-water hook-up(with a water-softener) to the house, otherwise wewould be spending a fortune on monthly bills for citywater/sewage.Even with purchasing a water-softener, septic tank,monthly bags of watersalt refills andbiannually/annually septic tank maintenance/drainnig,we are saving a bundle in the long-run! Everything isgoing up, including utilities and water!At least I have found an effecient method to nearlyeliminate ALL of the sofa cat-hair on a regular basis!:)Lora--- Nina wrote:My husband calls cat poo appetizers "chewy goodness."Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we'reon thesubject of poo... I just have to vent a little.After all the talk of psyching out litterboxavoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place.I was so proud of myself for finding and havingdelivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people thatwill be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just gotit yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we wantyet.My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom thismorning with a look that told me something was verywrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa withher distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated onthe chair!Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wantedto make sure the new stuff smelled more like the oldstuff I guess.Nina __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Yep, I truly feel your pain. It is for this sole purpose that we have finally learned, in our home, to have ALL of the fabric furniture professionally steamed upholstered and then have them wrapped in plastic. Once the plastic is professionally installed, slipcovers are fitted for each inidividual piece. Now when we have an inappropriate elimation/soiling accident or a territorial aggression spray issue, I simply take the slipcovers off and throw them in the washing machine. Of course this obviously meant that I absoultely had to purchase an industrial size washer and dryer. It is a godsend that we have a well-water hook-up (with a water-softener) to the house, otherwise we would be spending a fortune on monthly bills for city water/sewage. Even with purchasing a water-softener, septic tank, monthly bags of watersalt refills and biannually/annually septic tank maintenance/drainnig, we are saving a bundle in the long-run! Everything is going up, including utilities and water! At least I have found an effecient method to nearly eliminate ALL of the sofa cat-hair on a regular basis! :) Lora --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair! Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair. Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina veggiepugs wrote: I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca
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Uh oh. I'm sorry. Gypsy is lucky she lives with *you*. She'll live to tell the tale. Kx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: litterboxes My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair. Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina veggiepugs wrote: I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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This group has me in stitches. lol. ---Original Message--- From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: litterboxes Sent: Nov 22 '05 13:13 Uh oh. I'm sorry. Gypsy is lucky she lives with *you*. She'll live to tell the tale. Kx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: litterboxes My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair. Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina veggiepugs wrote: I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Nice to meet you Kerry. I'm horrible with names in person, but online at least i can read and visualize. I'm a very visual person. lol. So, so far, I've met/spoken with...Nina, Jenn, Michelle and now Kerry. I hope I haven't missed anyone! There should be a word for meeting people online. maybe E-meeting. LOL. I can't wait to get home to Brooklyn (the cat, not the place...lol) ---Original Message--- From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: litterboxes Sent: Nov 22 '05 13:11 Hi Rebecca (and welcome!---don't think we've spoken?) I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. Thanks! I'll measure the ones I currently buy--they're high at the back at least---but they're not long enough (in my view). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: litterboxes My husband calls cat poo appetizers chewy goodness. Disgusting. Ah the joys of fur parenting. While we're on the subject of poo... I just have to vent a little. After all the talk of psyching out litterbox avoidance, my cat Gypsy decided to put me in my place. I was so proud of myself for finding and having delivered a new sofa, love seat and overstuffed chair in time for the hoard of people that will be descending on our home for Thanksgiving. We just got it yesterday, haven't even arranged it the way we want yet. My husband stuck his face back in the bedroom this morning with a look that told me something was very wrong. Gypsy had not only christened the new sofa with her distinctive soft poo, but someone had urinated on the chair. Aaarrrggh! Mommy was not happy. Little s**ts wanted to make sure the new stuff smelled more like the old stuff I guess. Nina veggiepugs wrote: I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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yeah except kissing is out of the question for a good several hours. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: litterboxes Sent: Nov 22 '05 13:26 In a message dated 11/22/05 12:20:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer Yepmy Lucy! I told you she'd eat anything!! I think her kitty-cracker consumption added to the problems with her weight! Ugh!!! is right. ( I STILL love her!) Patti
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I once saw one at my local feed store that was HUGE, it was about 20x25, and I thought to myself that would fit a bobcat. I have one VERY large cat, and he uses the average sized ones I have just fine though. He goes in, turns around, and sticks his head out the door and does his business with just his rear in the box. Dogs DO love cat poop, and the only way I have found to keep them out of it is to close the cat box behind a door with a cat door too small for the dogs to get into the room, or to put the boxes up too high for them to reach. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
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LOL poor Nina! Lots of throw blankets are the key, cover everything! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
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Cats often avoid the covered litterboxes ... holds in the smell and they don't like that either. Some like life roomier. Could you put up a pet gate to the room where the litter boxes are so the pooch cannot have snacks? Del - Original Message - From: veggiepugs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: litterboxes I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca
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Wow, I could live in that box myself. (Never seen one that size.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: litterboxes I once saw one at my local feed store that was HUGE, it was about 20x25, and I thought to myself that would fit a bobcat. I have one VERY large cat, and he uses the average sized ones I have just fine though. He goes in, turns around, and sticks his head out the door and does his business with just his rear in the box. Dogs DO love cat poop, and the only way I have found to keep them out of it is to close the cat box behind a door with a cat door too small for the dogs to get into the room, or to put the boxes up too high for them to reach. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005 hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I had never seen one that size either, it was really HUGE. It's since sold, I'm not sure if they can order more or not. I wish now that I had gotten the brand name off of it. If I see another one there like that in the future, I'll take notes of it's brand for you. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
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ROFLMAO! Terri - Original Message - From: veggiepugs To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: Re: litterboxes yeah except kissing is out of the question for a good several hours. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: litterboxes Sent: Nov 22 '05 13:26 In a message dated 11/22/05 12:20:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer Yepmy Lucy! I told you she'd eat anything!! I think her "kitty-cracker" consumption added to the problems with her weight! Ugh!!! is right. ( I STILL love her!) Patti
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Absolutely for me - my dogs think it's just for them. Gloria At 11:20 AM 11/22/2005, you wrote: I was reading about covered litterboxes. What size are the largest that come with a cover? Does anyone have problems with their dog thinking cat poop is an appetizer? I've heard that lots of dogs are intrigued by cat poo. Ew. Don't know what would make them attracted to it. Ew again. I'll try to find a bigger covered litterbox if you know the dimensions of the largest one you know of so far. ;) Rebecca
