Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Steve Rickaby]

At 20:28 -0700 6/4/06, Pat Christenson wrote:

Very mixed feelings here. As I understand it, you have to boot into either OS 
X or Windows which makes it more cumbersome than Classic. But Classic isn't an 
option on the new computers so once again, it's like it or lump it for Mac 
users.

Yes, Boot Camp is dual boot. A dual-boot Mac is no use to me, because I need to 
use a lot of other software *at the same time* as FrameMaker, cross-referencing 
Excel, mail and so on. One could do this most easily by networking a real PC to 
the Mac, and running FrameMaker on that.

I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and 
publishing industries, and talked to the people on the Apple stand. Their 
general view was that Apple had done it because there were a lot of Windows 
users who wanted to run XP on Apple's 'real cool, superior hardware' [I am 
quoting here]. I hope this doesn't turn out to be hubris. My concern is that 
with Apple MacIntels being able to run XP, what is the incentive for Adobe to 
go on producing *any Mac applications at all*?
-- 
Steve
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Shortcuts for equation operators

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

some of you may know that you can use shortcuts to insert operators in
equations, for example:

CTRL+SHIFT+ a letter for the Greek alphabet
CTRL+SHIFT+6 for superscript
CTRL+q+SHIFT; for a right arrow
etc.

Does anyone know the shortcut for the following operators:

- multiply (x)
- subscript (as in rf, where f is in subscript)

 Thanks in advance.

--
Yves Barbion
Technical Writer
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


UI Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv)
Molenaarsstraat 111
B-9000 Gent
Belgium
Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72
Fax: +32 9 265 74 84
www.uni-learning.com

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Re: Problem with the master pages

[Rick Quatro]

Sindu,

Make sure the text frame on the master page is not tagged; that is, make 
sure it doesn't have a flow name. Select the text frame, and choose Graphics 
 Object Properties. Clear the Flow Tag field, and uncheck Autoconnect. This 
should give you the result you want.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
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Hello All,

We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to display a
message  at the center of the last page. I created a master page and
included a text frame with the message inside it along with the headers and
footers..and applied that master page on to last page .i am able to view
headers and footer for the same but not the message in the text frame.
Can u please tell me what might be the problem.

--
Regards,
Sindu
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Re: English Jargon - Intentionally Right Blank

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Thanks for a good link. And, you are right (or are you left?) ;-)

Bodvar

On 4/6/06, John Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We spend a lot of time removing English jargon for airline safety.
 A big airline in Japan wrote - we see the Intentionally Left Bank page
 but there
 is no Intentionally Right Blank page.  Bodvar Bjorgvinsson is correct,
 never assume
 foreigners can understand jargon.

 The English sign outside the Wal*Mart in Beijing today (April 2006)
 reads, Flesh Juice, so
 never assume we can read foreign English.

 For Framers interested in an enlightened message about the benefits
 simplification
 go to http://www.faa.gov/library/mediaLibrary  and play last movie 7/12/05.

 Remember on your next flight you are sitting on a few million pages of
 ASD-STE100
 Simplified Technical English, a lot prepared in structured XML FM.

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Re: Problem with the master pages

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:56 +0530 7/4/06, Sindhu tw wrote:

We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to display a
message  at the center of the last page. I created a master page and
included a text frame with the message inside it along with the headers and
footers..and applied that master page on to last page .i am able to view
headers and footer for the same but not the message in the text frame.
Can u please tell me what might be the problem.

Yes: you probably put the message in the main A flow on the master page. 
FrameMaker does not display objects placed in tagged flows on master pages. Try 
again, selecting the 'Background Text' option.

If you *did* select the background text option, I don't know what the problem 
is.
-- 
Steve
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generated list of tables, strange behaviour

[CAMBRELENG Helene]

Dear Framers,

 

We are using FrameMaker6.0+sgml and have a template for the List of Figures, 
but in the instance of a special publication, we also need a List of Tables. I 
have taken the List of Figures template and transformed it to serve as a List 
of Tables and it works very well with one exception: it doesn't get the page 
numbers right. There is a difference of 1 page number, i.e. the first table is 
on page 8 and on the List it reads Table 1 - Title page7

 

Could anyone please help and tell me where I got it wrong?

 

Our publication is composed of one book containing 12 Frame documents, the 
generated List of tables and of Figures are the last pages but one. The 
document is written on both pages left and right and I have made a different 
setting for these which seems to be working correctly.

 

I have checked and rechecked the documents, all of them start on the right page 
and have an even number of pages, allowing for a blank page on the left side 
where necessary. The blank pages are all auto-numbered correctly.

When we print to PDF everything is fine, the cross-references work well and the 
table of contents which lists each first to 3rd level paragraph Title is OK.

The List of Figures is correct!

 

Is there a way to tell the List to start with the right page number?

 

Thank you very much in advance for your help!

 

 

 

Hélène Cambreleng 

Editions Techniques Ferroviaires (ETF) 

16 rue Jean Rey - 75015 PARIS 

cambreleng at uic.asso.fr 

 

 

 

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FrameScript Notice

[Marjorie Mayo]

The FrameScript website is currently down due to a server problem.  We
hope to have the issue resolved by late this afternoon.  

 

We apologize for any inconvenience!

 

Thank you,

 

Marjorie Mayo

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RE: Problem with the master pages

[Lester C. Smalley]

On Friday, April 07, 2006 08:12 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

| At 16:56 +0530 7/4/06, Sindhu tw wrote:
| 
|  We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to
|  display a message  at the center of the last page. I created a
|  master page and included a text frame with the message inside
|  it along with the headers and footers..and applied that master
|  page on to last page .i am able to view headers and footer
|  for the same but not the message in the text frame.
|  Can u please tell me what might be the problem.
| 
| Yes: you probably put the message in the main A flow on the 
| master page. FrameMaker does not display objects placed in 
| tagged flows on master pages. Try again, selecting the 
| 'Background Text' option.
| 
| If you *did* select the background text option, I don't know 
| what the problem is.
| -- 
| Steve

A possibility is that the created text frame on the master page overlays
the main, tagged (foreground) text frame.  Regardless of this
positioning and appearance, the background text frame will be positioned
behind the tagged frame on the body page.  The fill pattern for the main
text frame is most likely solid white - thus opaque - and anything
beneath it will be hidden from view.

There are two solutions: either you delete the tagged frame from the
master page; or you can change the fill pattern of the tagged frame to
NONE so it is transparent, thereby allowing the added background frame
and its message to be visible.

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RE: fmPython

[Keith Arnett]

Hi all,

I had some trouble posting to the list, and first of all, many thanks to
Lisa for her administrative help in getting that straightened out.  I was
*most* impressed to receive an actual phone call (!), a rarity these days.
Thanks again, Lisa.

So, although this topic may be a bit stale, I thought I would send it along
to see if everything is working now. :-)

I've used fmPython with FM 7.0 extensively and successfully. I would have
preferred FrameScript, but at the time I was working as a lone writer for a
start-up, and dollars were scarce.

You can place the script (convTI.py) in any convenient location. The
procedure that works for me is:

1. Open the FM book you want to work with.
2. Use the FrameMaker File  Open menu command to open the script. The
Unknown File Type dialog box appears, with Text preselected.
3. Click Convert. The Reading Text File dialog box appears.
4. Select the Treat Each Line as a Paragraph option.
5. Select ASCII encoding.
6. Click Read. The script opens in FrameMaker.
7. Click anywhere in the script to place the cursor in the document.
8. Choose the fmPython  Selection as script menu command. The script is now
enabled for PDF processing.
9. With the focus on the book, click the fmPythonExecute script menu
command.

You can find the script at:

http://www.isnet.sk/petrucha/?lang=enpage=scripts

Danger, Will Robinson!! I strongly advise that you save a complete backup of
all files before you run the script. Why? Because the Save All Files In
Book menu command is immediately adjacent to the Close All Files In Book
menu command on the FM File menu. The script opens all files in the book and
enables you to convert all of the text insets to plain text. After you run
the script, all it takes is a single mis-click to save all of your book
files with no text insets. Arg.

Do not fool yourself into thinking you will be really careful and do not
need to copy the files to the backup location. Take it from someone who has
learned the hard way. :-) It isn't a total disaster because you can always
re-import the text insets, but it *is* a major waste of time.

Thanks,

Keith
 

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Senior Technical Writer
webMethods, Inc.\ Fairfax VA
703-460-5927
Mobile: 540-671-1954
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Print quality of graphics rotated in Frame

[Mary Sheahan]

I have a couple of rotated anchor frames that contain
referenced WMFs.  It prints fine with my very slow PS
printer-driver, but on my usual speedy PCL
printer-driver, the print quality is horrific.

When I tried to convert to EPS  reference that
instead, Frame could not display the graphic.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: Print quality of graphics rotated in Frame

[Art Campbell]

Do you have the latest HP drivers installed?

Can you generate a .pdf from FM with the WMFs in place and try printing that?


On the EPS... did you specify a type of preview?

Art

On 4/7/06, Mary Sheahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a couple of rotated anchor frames that contain
 referenced WMFs.  It prints fine with my very slow PS
 printer-driver, but on my usual speedy PCL
 printer-driver, the print quality is horrific.

 When I tried to convert to EPS  reference that
 instead, Frame could not display the graphic.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
 Mary


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FrameMaker on Mac

[Gillian Flato]

A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
 
What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
for the competing OS to recognize it? 

 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Peter Gold]

One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you 
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from 
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of 
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.


So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external 
storage of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.


There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called, 
that makes Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if 
it will work with MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask 
the manufacturer.


Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.

HTH


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:

A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp


What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX

Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
for the competing OS to recognize it?


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FrameMaker 7.2 startup problem - authentication?

[Emily Goodin]

Hello 
Greetings Framers,

A co-worker of mine is having a problem with FrameMaker startup if she
is not logged in to her machine as 'admin.' If anyone has any advice, we
would love to hear it. 

Thanks much,
  Emily Goodin
  Boulder, Colo. 



I am having FrameMaker 7.2 problems. When I log in to our domain/my PC
as myself, Frame won't launch. If I log off and log back in as admin, I
can use Frame, but don't have access to any other programs. I have tried
uninstalling and reinstalling.

Our IT guy believes it is a problem in my user profile and is looking
into it. Has anyone else experienced this problem or heard about it? I
searched the adobe support site and didn't find anything.

Thanks!

Dena
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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Bill Briggs]

I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures 
listed below.

This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php

- web

At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you format the 
Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from both OSs, but the 
newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of FAT32, so most users don't 
bother fighting the default.

So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external storage 
of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.

There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called, that makes 
Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if it will work with 
MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask the manufacturer.

Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.

HTH


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp

What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
for the competing OS to recognize it?

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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Art Campbell]

A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...


Art

On 4/7/06, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
 format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
 both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
 FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.

 So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external
 storage of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.

 There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called,
 that makes Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if
 it will work with MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask
 the manufacturer.

 Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.

 HTH

 
 Regards,

 Peter Gold
 KnowHow ProServices

 At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
 A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
 
 What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
 Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
 the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
 Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
 for the competing OS to recognize it?

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Frame Crashing

[Karyn Hunt]

Hi Guys,

   I'm having a strange problem that my IT guys tells me is due to a bad 
interaction between Windows, FrameMaker and RoboHelp. I’m wondering if any of 
you has seen this and if so, what you've done to correct it.

   To make a long story short, my Windows Explorer folders are becoming 
corrupted and crashing FrameMaker when I try to import images by reference. 
Things generally go okay for a while until I spend a fair amount of time 
importing several different images. Then all-of-a-sudden, the image folder will 
decide it just doesn't want to work with FrameMaker any more and it begins 
crashing (both Explorer windows AND FrameMaker) every time I try to import an 
image.

   If I physically move that folder elsewhere, like my desktop for example, it 
begins working again. But then I've broken all other reference links and I have 
to start over, which makes this solution unworkable.

   To date, the only workaround I can come up with is to move the image folder 
to the desktop, copy the new images in, then move the folder back to its usual 
spot for archival purposes, should I ever solve this vexing problem.

   My IT guys blames this on RoboHelp and says FrameMaker, Windows Explorer and 
RoboHelp don't play nicely together. But I don’t' really believe him. My 
installation of RoboHelp is working just fine - no problems with it at all - 
just FrameMaker and Explorer.

  Any thoughts? Suggestions?

  I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with RoboHelp X5.0.1 and Windows XP Professional 
version 2002, Service Pack 2.

Karyn

   
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Re: Frame Crashing

[Art Campbell]

Are the FM and graphics files local, on a network drive, or mixed?

If the network is involved, hiccups there and in the way Windows is
reading the network file system would be my first guess.

Art


On 4/7/06, Karyn Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys,

I'm having a strange problem that my IT guys tells me is due to a bad 
 interaction between Windows, FrameMaker and RoboHelp. I'm wondering if any of 
 you has seen this and if so, what you've done to correct it.

To make a long story short, my Windows Explorer folders are becoming 
 corrupted and crashing FrameMaker when I try to import images by reference. 
 Things generally go okay for a while until I spend a fair amount of time 
 importing several different images. Then all-of-a-sudden, the image folder 
 will decide it just doesn't want to work with FrameMaker any more and it 
 begins crashing (both Explorer windows AND FrameMaker) every time I try to 
 import an image.

If I physically move that folder elsewhere, like my desktop for example, 
 it begins working again. But then I've broken all other reference links and I 
 have to start over, which makes this solution unworkable.

To date, the only workaround I can come up with is to move the image 
 folder to the desktop, copy the new images in, then move the folder back to 
 its usual spot for archival purposes, should I ever solve this vexing problem.

My IT guys blames this on RoboHelp and says FrameMaker, Windows Explorer 
 and RoboHelp don't play nicely together. But I don't' really believe him. My 
 installation of RoboHelp is working just fine - no problems with it at all - 
 just FrameMaker and Explorer.

   Any thoughts? Suggestions?

   I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with RoboHelp X5.0.1 and Windows XP Professional 
 version 2002, Service Pack 2.

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RE: Frame Crashing

[Karyn Hunt]

In this case, I'm certain it's not the network b/c everything is on my local 
hard drive. FrameMaker and RoboHelp are installed on my C drive under Program 
Files. The image folders are under My Documents. (The path is roughly 
project name/Frame files + a subfolder with the images/images. It's the final 
folder images that keeps corrupting. 

Another oddity is that even if FrameMaker isn't open, once that folder decides 
not to cooperate, I can't even open it in Windows Explorer. We can, however, 
get images out if we go into it in a command window (DOS).

k

-Original Message-
From: Bob Colwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:41 AM
To: Art Campbell; Karyn Hunt
Cc: framers
Subject: RE: Frame Crashing

Back in 1987 I had been using Framemaker for a couple of years, when
a new version came out that included a networking feature. I tried 
using it, and found that everything had slowed to a crawl. I sent off
a blistering review of the new product to Framemaker, and got an email
back a few days later from the president of the company, apologizing
for our troubles, expressing surprise, and suggesting some experiments
to try to pinpoint the problem. The first experiment showed that it was
our own (new) network causing the problem. I sent a contrite whoops,
never mind to Framemaker. Had this been a Windows network (impossible
in 1987, yeah I know) I would have suspected that right away...-BobC

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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:22 AM
To: Karyn Hunt
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Frame Crashing


Are the FM and graphics files local, on a network drive, or mixed?

If the network is involved, hiccups there and in the way Windows is
reading the network file system would be my first guess.

Art


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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Art Campbell]

I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software

Art

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 I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and 
 publishing industries, and talked to the people on the Apple stand. Their 
 general view was that Apple had done it because there were a lot of Windows 
 users who wanted to run XP on Apple's 'real cool, superior hardware' [I am 
 quoting here]. I hope this doesn't turn out to be hubris. My concern is that 
 with Apple MacIntels being able to run XP, what is the incentive for Adobe to 
 go on producing *any Mac applications at all*?
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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[David Creamer]

 P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.

It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.

As a trainer, I look forward to slimming down to one computer when
traveling, but I'm waiting for the larger screen portables.

 
David Creamer
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Publishing-related software
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Re: FrameMaker on Mac

[Bill Briggs]

At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
  P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.

It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.

 You missed a post or two somewhere along the line. I'm not talking about dual 
boot. Follow the link. http://www.parallels.com/
 This is virtualization, not, booting to windows. I don't want either, but dual 
booting is more inconvenient than virtual platforms.

- web
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(no subject)

[Jim Light]

I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few
seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show up in the
PDF.

 

*   In most cases I cloned the tables, so nothing (much) is
different between them, except that one of the table heading cells does
not show up in one of these. For all of these the actual cell text is
the same in both the good and bad tables. 
*   I have tried restarting the computer and regenerating the PDF,
but that does not help. 
*   I tried changing the tags, but that doesn't make any difference.
I made sure they are the same as in the cells that show and that does
not help. 
*   I tried using the text editing tool in Acrobat, but the text I
type in is invisible. 
*   Some headings are straddled, some are not. It doesn't matter
some of each are invisible. 

 

What is going on here? 

 

Thanks

Jim Light

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Call for Papers: FrameMaker 2006 Chautauqua

[Scott Abel]

Calling all presenters! If you are interested in participating as a 
speaker at the FrameMaker 2006 Chautauqua. If so, now is the time to 
submit your proposals.


Proposal submissions:
http://www.travelthepath.com/presproposal.html

This call for papers officially closes April 26th.  Get your 
presentation submission in today. Time is running out!


The Content Wrangler, Inc.
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Don't miss the CM Pros Spring Summit
April 23-24, 2006 - San Francisco
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Framemaker on Mac

[James Monaco]

Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp  
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --  
the Open Source project for something called Darwine. Based on  
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows  
application under OS X. Not only don't you not boot Windows, you  
don't even buy it.


I have no idea how stable this will be, or whether Wine works well on  
Linux, and of course there will be glitches, but the concept is  
remarkable.


Think of the ramifications: my guess is that many Windows users love  
their aps not their OS. And if Darwine beats Vista to market. Hmmnn


More info here:

http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-3462-2-79-99483-407346-0-0-0-1

and here:

http://darwine.opendarwin.org/
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Updating text with new paragraph tag settings

[Karyn Hunt]

Hi All,

 

  I have some very old chapters from some very old books that I’m
selectively copying and pasting into some new books. The new books have
slightly different character tag settings (different indents and line
spacing) so I’m importing the new formats into all the old chapters as I
copy them in to the new books. Problem is, this old book had a whole lot
of overrides and when I see the paragraph tags in the new book (in the
paragraph tag field on the menu), the tag names have asterisks next to
and have not yet picked up the new settings. So I’m having to go back
and select each chunk of text and re-tag it with the same tag to make it
pick up the new settings. Is there some shortcut to quickly update them
all at once?

 

  I’m in Frame 7.1.

 

Karyn


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Re: Updating text with new paragraph tag settings

[Martha J Davidson]

Try File  Import  Formats, and select paragraph and character tags,
imported from Current. Then select the check box for When Importing,
Remove Other Format/Layout Overrides. That should do what you
want.

martha

At 02:41 PM 4/7/2006, Karyn Hunt wrote:

  I have some very old chapters from some very old books that I'm
selectively copying and pasting into some new books. The new books have
slightly different character tag settings (different indents and line
spacing) so I'm importing the new formats into all the old chapters as I
copy them in to the new books. Problem is, this old book had a whole lot
of overrides and when I see the paragraph tags in the new book (in the
paragraph tag field on the menu), the tag names have asterisks next to
and have not yet picked up the new settings. So I'm having to go back
and select each chunk of text and re-tag it with the same tag to make it
pick up the new settings. Is there some shortcut to quickly update them
all at once?


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Anchored frames position

[Gillian Flato]

I have white space on the left side of book. When I import a graphic, I
want the anchored frame to be centered below the line, but centered
within the margins of the text, not to the page size. 

For example, if I have 2 inches of white space on the left side, 4
inches of text, and a 2 inch graphic, I want the anchored Frame to span
from 3 inches in to 5 inches.
 
How do I do this? I don't want to have to set this for each frame. I
want the Below Current Line feature to look at the paragraph tag, see
what the margins are and center it according to that. 
 
I tried applying a paragraph style to it but it didn't work.
 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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Vanishing Table Heading Cells

[Jim Light]

The text is fine in FM.
The properties of the text in the PDF are the same for the invisible
text as for the visible text. (!!!)

I tried re-importing table definitions, but that didn't help.

I copied the text to a new template and that didn't help.

I made a copy of a good table and copied the body rows into it. (These
tables have the same heading rows, so I can use a good one and just
change the body rows). This worked twice and then it didn't work. About
half of my table collection has this weird problem. 

At this point I am copying a good one and using it to recreate a bad one
over and over until they are all OK.

What on Earth is going on???

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:28 PM
To: Jim Light; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: (no subject)

Jim Light wrote: 

 I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few 
 seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show 
 up in the PDF.

Just to be clear: the text is fine in FM, it just disappears in the PDF?

 * I tried using the text editing tool in Acrobat, but the text I
 type in is invisible. 

With the TouchUp Text Tool selected, click in or select the invisible
text, right-click, and select Properties. Take a look at the info on the
Text tab, especially the font and fill. See if that gives you any hints.


shrug /Can it wait until Monday? It's almost beer-thirty here. ;-)

Richard


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RE: Anchored frames position

[Combs, Richard]

Gillian Flato wrote: 

 I have white space on the left side of book. When I import a 
 graphic, I want the anchored frame to be centered below the 
 line, but centered within the margins of the text, not to the 
 page size. 

Robert Stoker's plug-in may do it for you, but may I suggest a different
approach? Create a new pgf format called, for instance,
FrameAnchorCentered. Define as centered, make sure line spacing is NOT
fixed, and specify the space above and below to put the frame where you
want. Then put your anchored frames into FrameAnchorCentered pgfs using
the At Insertion Point setting (instead of Below Current Line). 

By putting each anchored frame into its own pgf, instead of anchoring in
the text pgf preceding it, you'll have much better control over spacing,
pagination, etc. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Where's Framescript?

[Frank Elmore]

Hello all,

The FrameScript web site is working again.

Sorry for the inconvience.

Frank Elmore
Project leader for FrameScript

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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Where's Framescript?



Folks:

As I head back into heavy FrameMaker use to attach another project, I've
decided to check out Framescript in order to add macro creation ability, 
if

nothing else, to my publishing capabilities.

But lo and behold, my attempts to go to www.framescript.com has popped up 
no

more than the old this page cannot be displayed message.

What gives? Is this temporary? Is it just me? Or what?

~ Don Spencer
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RE: Frame Crashing

[Bob Colwell]

Back in 1987 I had been using Framemaker for a couple of years, when
a new version came out that included a networking feature. I tried 
using it, and found that everything had slowed to a crawl. I sent off
a blistering review of the new product to Framemaker, and got an email
back a few days later from the president of the company, apologizing
for our troubles, expressing surprise, and suggesting some experiments
to try to pinpoint the problem. The first experiment showed that it was
our own (new) network causing the problem. I sent a contrite whoops,
never mind to Framemaker. Had this been a Windows network (impossible
in 1987, yeah I know) I would have suspected that right away...-BobC

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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:22 AM
To: Karyn Hunt
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Frame Crashing


Are the FM and graphics files local, on a network drive, or mixed?

If the network is involved, hiccups there and in the way Windows is
reading the network file system would be my first guess.

Art

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Changing Attribute Types

[Grinnell Larry-ELG001]

Changing attribute types: Frame 7.0 Structured Developer's guide states
that without a Read/Write rule, Frame changes all NMTOKENS attribute
types to Strings on import then changes all Strings attribute types to
CDATA types on export (pages 248-249).
 
I need to ensure certain attribute values are NMTOKENS type on export
but I can't get the following argument (from page 425) to work in my R/W
rules: nmtokens attribute Role is fm Strings attribute;
 
Any ideas? Thanks in advance!!!

Larry Grinnell, MCP, MCSE 
Staff Systems Administrator 
Integrated Technical Communications 
Motorola Inc., Mobile Devices Business 
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789 International Parkway, Room S2C 
Sunrise, FL 33325 
Voice: (954) 723-8914 
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RE: FrameScript Notice

[Nick Howard]

Framers,

The FrameScript site is operational again. Thank you for your patience
and interest in FrameScript.


Thanks,
 
Nick Howard
Finite Matters Ltd.
804.556.1180 - Phone
804.556.1183 - Fax

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Importance: High

The FrameScript website is currently down due to a server problem.  We
hope to have the issue resolved by late this afternoon.  

 

We apologize for any inconvenience!

 

Thank you,

 

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Re: Vanishing Table Heading Cells

[Shlomo Perets]

Jim,

You wrote:

 I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few
 seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show
 up in the PDF.

One possibility is the combination of Save as PDF with Tagged PDF 
turned on (which may be there by default).

See http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM71 for more info and sample files.
(Note: this problem is listed under FM7.1 but applies to FM7.2 as well. 
Generally, bugs listed under a specific FM release apply to later versions, 
unless indicated otherwise).



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FrameMaker on Mac

[Steve Rickaby]

At 20:28 -0700 6/4/06, Pat Christenson wrote:

>Very mixed feelings here. As I understand it, you have to boot into either OS 
>X or Windows which makes it more cumbersome than Classic. But Classic isn't an 
>option on the new computers so once again, it's like it or lump it for Mac 
>users.

Yes, Boot Camp is dual boot. A dual-boot Mac is no use to me, because I need to 
use a lot of other software *at the same time* as FrameMaker, cross-referencing 
Excel, mail and so on. One could do this most easily by networking a real PC to 
the Mac, and running FrameMaker on that.

I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and 
publishing industries, and talked to the people on the Apple stand. Their 
general view was that Apple had done it because there were a lot of Windows 
users who wanted to run XP on Apple's 'real cool, superior hardware' [I am 
quoting here]. I hope this doesn't turn out to be hubris. My concern is that 
with Apple MacIntels being able to run XP, what is the incentive for Adobe to 
go on producing *any Mac applications at all*?
-- 
Steve

Shortcuts for equation operators

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

some of you may know that you can use shortcuts to insert operators in
equations, for example:

CTRL+SHIFT+ a letter for the Greek alphabet
CTRL+SHIFT+6 for superscript
CTRL+q+SHIFT; for a right arrow
etc.

Does anyone know the shortcut for the following operators:

- multiply (x)
- subscript (as in "rf", where f is in subscript)

 Thanks in advance.

--
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Problem with the master pages

[Rick Quatro]

Sindu,

Make sure the text frame on the master page is not "tagged"; that is, make 
sure it doesn't have a flow name. Select the text frame, and choose Graphics 
 > Object Properties. Clear the Flow Tag field, and uncheck Autoconnect. This 
should give you the result you want.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hello All,

We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to display a
message  at the center of the last page. I created a master page and
included a text frame with the message inside it along with the headers and
footers..and applied that master page on to last page .i am able to view
headers and footer for the same but not the message in the text frame.
Can u please tell me what might be the problem.

--
Regards,
Sindu
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English Jargon - Intentionally Right Blank

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Thanks for a good link. And, you are right (or are you left?) ;-)

Bodvar

On 4/6/06, John Smart  wrote:
> We spend a lot of time removing English jargon for airline safety.
> A big airline in Japan wrote - "we see the Intentionally Left Bank page
> but there
> is no Intentionally Right Blank page".  Bodvar Bjorgvinsson is correct,
> never assume
> foreigners can understand jargon.
>
> The English sign outside the Wal*Mart in Beijing today (April 2006)
> reads, "Flesh Juice", so
> never assume we can read foreign English.
>
> For Framers interested in an enlightened message about the benefits
> simplification
> go to http://www.faa.gov/library/mediaLibrary  and play last movie 7/12/05.
>
> Remember on your next flight you are sitting on a few million pages of
> ASD-STE100
> Simplified Technical English, a lot prepared in structured XML FM.
>
> --
> John Smart and the MAXit Team
> Email: jsmart at smartny.com
> SMART Communications, Inc.
> 909 Third Avenue,
> New York, NY 10022 USA
> Tel: +1(212) 486-1894  -5GMT
> VM:  +1(646) 495-3146 (24/7)
> Fax: +1(212) 826-9775
> http://www.smartny.com

Problem with the master pages

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:56 +0530 7/4/06, Sindhu tw wrote:

>We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to display a
>message  at the center of the last page. I created a master page and
>included a text frame with the message inside it along with the headers and
>footers..and applied that master page on to last page .i am able to view
>headers and footer for the same but not the message in the text frame.
>Can u please tell me what might be the problem.

Yes: you probably put the message in the main A flow on the master page. 
FrameMaker does not display objects placed in tagged flows on master pages. Try 
again, selecting the 'Background Text' option.

If you *did* select the background text option, I don't know what the problem 
is.
-- 
Steve

generated list of tables, strange behaviour

[CAMBRELENG Helene]

Dear Framers,



We are using FrameMaker6.0+sgml and have a template for the List of Figures, 
but in the instance of a special publication, we also need a List of Tables. I 
have taken the List of Figures template and transformed it to serve as a List 
of Tables and it works very well with one exception: it doesn't get the page 
numbers right. There is a difference of 1 page number, i.e. the first table is 
on page 8 and on the List it reads "Table 1 - Title page7"



Could anyone please help and tell me where I got it wrong?



Our publication is composed of one book containing 12 Frame documents, the 
generated List of tables and of Figures are the last pages but one. The 
document is written on both pages left and right and I have made a different 
setting for these which seems to be working correctly.



I have checked and rechecked the documents, all of them start on the right page 
and have an even number of pages, allowing for a blank page on the left side 
where necessary. The blank pages are all auto-numbered correctly.

When we print to PDF everything is fine, the cross-references work well and the 
table of contents which lists each first to 3rd level paragraph Title is OK.

The List of Figures is correct!



Is there a way to tell the List to start with the right page number?



Thank you very much in advance for your help!







H?l?ne Cambreleng 

Editions Techniques Ferroviaires (ETF) 

16 rue Jean Rey - 75015 PARIS 

cambreleng at uic.asso.fr 

FrameScript Notice

[Marjorie Mayo]

The FrameScript website is currently down due to a server problem.  We
hope to have the issue resolved by late this afternoon.  



We apologize for any inconvenience!



Thank you,



Marjorie Mayo

FML Sales & Support
marjorie at fml.com

Problem with the master pages

[Lester C. Smalley]

On Friday, April 07, 2006 08:12 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

| At 16:56 +0530 7/4/06, Sindhu tw wrote:
| 
| > We are using Unstructured frame maker in our company. I want to
| > display a message  at the center of the last page. I created a
| > master page and included a text frame with the message inside
| > it along with the headers and footers..and applied that master
| > page on to last page .i am able to view headers and footer
| > for the same but not the message in the text frame.
| > Can u please tell me what might be the problem.
| 
| Yes: you probably put the message in the main A flow on the 
| master page. FrameMaker does not display objects placed in 
| tagged flows on master pages. Try again, selecting the 
| 'Background Text' option.
| 
| If you *did* select the background text option, I don't know 
| what the problem is.
| -- 
| Steve

A possibility is that the created text frame on the master page overlays
the main, tagged (foreground) text frame.  Regardless of this
positioning and appearance, the background text frame will be positioned
behind the tagged frame on the body page.  The fill pattern for the main
text frame is most likely solid white - thus opaque - and anything
beneath it will be hidden from view.

There are two solutions: either you delete the tagged frame from the
master page; or you can change the fill pattern of the tagged frame to
NONE so it is transparent, thereby allowing the added background frame
and its message to be visible.

- Lester 
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fmPython

[Keith Arnett]

Hi all,

I had some trouble posting to the list, and first of all, many thanks to
Lisa for her administrative help in getting that straightened out.  I was
*most* impressed to receive an actual phone call (!), a rarity these days.
Thanks again, Lisa.

So, although this topic may be a bit stale, I thought I would send it along
to see if everything is working now. :-)

I've used fmPython with FM 7.0 extensively and successfully. I would have
preferred FrameScript, but at the time I was working as a lone writer for a
start-up, and dollars were scarce.

You can place the script (convTI.py) in any convenient location. The
procedure that works for me is:

1. Open the FM book you want to work with.
2. Use the FrameMaker File > Open menu command to open the script. The
Unknown File Type dialog box appears, with "Text" preselected.
3. Click Convert. The Reading Text File dialog box appears.
4. Select the Treat Each Line as a Paragraph option.
5. Select ASCII encoding.
6. Click Read. The script opens in FrameMaker.
7. Click anywhere in the script to place the cursor in the document.
8. Choose the fmPython > Selection as script menu command. The script is now
enabled for PDF processing.
9. With the focus on the book, click the fmPython>Execute script menu
command.

You can find the script at:

http://www.isnet.sk/petrucha/?lang=en=scripts

Danger, Will Robinson!! I strongly advise that you save a complete backup of
all files before you run the script. Why? Because the "Save All Files In
Book" menu command is immediately adjacent to the "Close All Files In Book"
menu command on the FM File menu. The script opens all files in the book and
enables you to convert all of the text insets to plain text. After you run
the script, all it takes is a single mis-click to save all of your book
files with no text insets. Arg.

Do not fool yourself into thinking you will be really careful and do not
need to copy the files to the backup location. Take it from someone who has
learned the hard way. :-) It isn't a total disaster because you can always
re-import the text insets, but it *is* a major waste of time.

Thanks,

Keith
?

Keith Arnett
Senior Technical Writer
webMethods, Inc.\ Fairfax VA
703-460-5927
Mobile: 540-671-1954

English Jargon - Intentionally Right Blank

[Martin Simon]

Try this link, instead...

http://www.faa.gov/library/media_library/

You can't really see it, but there's an underscore between media &
library.


Martin Simon
Technical Writer
martin.simon at wetdesign.com

WET DESIGN
10817 Sherman Way
Sun Valley, California 91352
T 818.769.6200
F 818.301.6111
www.wetdesign.com




-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+martin.simon=wetdesign@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+martin.simon=wetdesign.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:01 AM
To: jsmart at smartny.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: English Jargon - Intentionally Right Blank

Thanks for a good link. And, you are right (or are you left?) ;-)

Bodvar

On 4/6/06, John Smart  wrote:
> We spend a lot of time removing English jargon for airline safety.
> A big airline in Japan wrote - "we see the Intentionally Left Bank
page
> but there
> is no Intentionally Right Blank page".  Bodvar Bjorgvinsson is
correct,
> never assume
> foreigners can understand jargon.
>
> The English sign outside the Wal*Mart in Beijing today (April 2006)
> reads, "Flesh Juice", so
> never assume we can read foreign English.
>
> For Framers interested in an enlightened message about the benefits
> simplification
> go to http://www.faa.gov/library/mediaLibrary  and play last movie
7/12/05.
>
> Remember on your next flight you are sitting on a few million pages of
> ASD-STE100
> Simplified Technical English, a lot prepared in structured XML FM.
>
> --
> John Smart and the MAXit Team
> Email: jsmart at smartny.com
> SMART Communications, Inc.
> 909 Third Avenue,
> New York, NY 10022 USA
> Tel: +1(212) 486-1894  -5GMT
> VM:  +1(646) 495-3146 (24/7)
> Fax: +1(212) 826-9775
> http://www.smartny.com
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Print quality of graphics rotated in Frame

[Mary Sheahan]

I have a couple of rotated anchor frames that contain
referenced WMFs.  It prints fine with my very slow PS
printer-driver, but on my usual speedy PCL
printer-driver, the print quality is horrific.

When I tried to convert to EPS & reference that
instead, Frame could not display the graphic.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Mary


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Print quality of graphics rotated in Frame

[Art Campbell]

Do you have the latest HP drivers installed?

Can you generate a .pdf from FM with the WMFs in place and try printing that?


On the EPS... did you specify a type of preview?

Art

On 4/7/06, Mary Sheahan  wrote:
> I have a couple of rotated anchor frames that contain
> referenced WMFs.  It prints fine with my very slow PS
> printer-driver, but on my usual speedy PCL
> printer-driver, the print quality is horrific.
>
> When I tried to convert to EPS & reference that
> instead, Frame could not display the graphic.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Mary
>

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gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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FrameMaker on Mac

[Gillian Flato]

A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp

>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
for the competing OS to recognize it? 



Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics.com  




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Complex context rules

[Steve Rickaby]

I am in the situation in which I want an element to be able to check whether 
its *parent* is the first element of *its* parent.

Put another way, element A needs to be able to check whether A's parent is the 
first element of A's grandparent.

The on-line struct dev guide (page 135 in FrameMaker 7 version) seems to imply 
that context rules of the form:

If context is: Parent {first} < GrandParent, or

If context is: Parent {after Grandparent} < * < SomeOtherAncestor

are valid, but I can't get these rule to trigger. Are there any pitfalls here?
-- 
Steve

Complex context rules [Cancel]

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:54 +0100 7/4/06, Steve Rickaby wrote:

>I am in the situation in which I want an element to be able to check whether 
>its *parent* is the first element of *its* parent.
>
>Put another way, element A needs to be able to check whether A's parent is the 
>first element of A's grandparent.
>
>The on-line struct dev guide (page 135 in FrameMaker 7 version) seems to imply 
>that context rules of the form:
>
>If context is: Parent {first} < GrandParent, or
>
>If context is: Parent {after Grandparent} < * < SomeOtherAncestor
>
>are valid, but I can't get these rule to trigger. Are there any pitfalls here?

I can answer my own question - yes, there are: don't ignore intervening , 
which will cause the {first} or {after} rules to fail.

I am going down with some sort of bug: that's my excuse for muddle-headedness.
-- 
Steve

FrameMaker on Mac

[Peter Gold]

One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you 
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from 
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of 
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.

So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external 
storage of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.

There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called, 
that makes Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if 
it will work with MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask 
the manufacturer.

Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.

HTH


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
>A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
>
>>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
>Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
>the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
>Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
>for the competing OS to recognize it?

FrameMaker 7.2 startup problem - authentication?

[Emily Goodin]

Hello 
Greetings Framers,

A co-worker of mine is having a problem with FrameMaker startup if she
is not logged in to her machine as 'admin.' If anyone has any advice, we
would love to hear it. 

Thanks much,
  Emily Goodin
  Boulder, Colo. 



I am having FrameMaker 7.2 problems. When I log in to our domain/my PC
as myself, Frame won't launch. If I log off and log back in as admin, I
can use Frame, but don't have access to any other programs. I have tried
uninstalling and reinstalling.

Our IT guy believes it is a problem in my user profile and is looking
into it. Has anyone else experienced this problem or heard about it? I
searched the adobe support site and didn't find anything.

Thanks!

Dena
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FrameMaker on Mac

[Bill Briggs]

I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures 
listed below.

This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php

- web

At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you format the 
>Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from both OSs, but the 
>newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of FAT32, so most users don't 
>bother fighting the default.
>
>So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external storage 
>of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.
>
>There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called, that makes 
>Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if it will work with 
>MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask the manufacturer.
>
>Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.
>
>HTH
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Peter Gold
>KnowHow ProServices
>
>At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
>>A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
>>
What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
>>Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
>>the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
>>Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
>>for the competing OS to recognize it?
>
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FrameMaker on Mac

[Art Campbell]

A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...


Art

On 4/7/06, Peter Gold  wrote:
> One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
> format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
> both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
> FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.
>
> So, you'd have to use a memory stick or email attachment or external
> storage of some kind to transfer files, plus, quit and restart OSs.
>
> There's a Mac third-party program, MacDrive, I think it's called,
> that makes Mac-formatted drives visible on Windows. I don't know if
> it will work with MacTel under Windows. Search Google for it, and ask
> the manufacturer.
>
> Under Virtual PC on Mac, you can work across the OSs, but it's slower.
>
> HTH
>
> 
> Regards,
>
> Peter Gold
> KnowHow ProServices
>
> At 8:49 AM -0700 4/7/06, Gillian Flato wrote:
> >A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
> >
> >>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
> >Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
> >the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
> >Or would you have to copy the graphic file to a memory stick in order
> >for the competing OS to recognize it?
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Frame Crashing

[Karyn Hunt]

Hi Guys,

   I'm having a strange problem that my IT guys tells me is due to a bad 
interaction between Windows, FrameMaker and RoboHelp. I?m wondering if any of 
you has seen this and if so, what you've done to correct it.

   To make a long story short, my Windows Explorer folders are becoming 
corrupted and crashing FrameMaker when I try to import images by reference. 
Things generally go okay for a while until I spend a fair amount of time 
importing several different images. Then all-of-a-sudden, the image folder will 
decide it just doesn't want to work with FrameMaker any more and it begins 
crashing (both Explorer windows AND FrameMaker) every time I try to import an 
image.

   If I physically move that folder elsewhere, like my desktop for example, it 
begins working again. But then I've broken all other reference links and I have 
to start over, which makes this solution unworkable.

   To date, the only workaround I can come up with is to move the image folder 
to the desktop, copy the new images in, then move the folder back to its usual 
spot for archival purposes, should I ever solve this vexing problem.

   My IT guys blames this on RoboHelp and says FrameMaker, Windows Explorer and 
RoboHelp don't play nicely together. But I don?t' really believe him. My 
installation of RoboHelp is working just fine - no problems with it at all - 
just FrameMaker and Explorer.

  Any thoughts? Suggestions?

  I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with RoboHelp X5.0.1 and Windows XP Professional 
version 2002, Service Pack 2.

Karyn

Frame Crashing

[Art Campbell]

Are the FM and graphics files local, on a network drive, or mixed?

If the network is involved, hiccups there and in the way Windows is
reading the network file system would be my first guess.

Art


On 4/7/06, Karyn Hunt  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
>I'm having a strange problem that my IT guys tells me is due to a bad 
> interaction between Windows, FrameMaker and RoboHelp. I'm wondering if any of 
> you has seen this and if so, what you've done to correct it.
>
>To make a long story short, my Windows Explorer folders are becoming 
> corrupted and crashing FrameMaker when I try to import images by reference. 
> Things generally go okay for a while until I spend a fair amount of time 
> importing several different images. Then all-of-a-sudden, the image folder 
> will decide it just doesn't want to work with FrameMaker any more and it 
> begins crashing (both Explorer windows AND FrameMaker) every time I try to 
> import an image.
>
>If I physically move that folder elsewhere, like my desktop for example, 
> it begins working again. But then I've broken all other reference links and I 
> have to start over, which makes this solution unworkable.
>
>To date, the only workaround I can come up with is to move the image 
> folder to the desktop, copy the new images in, then move the folder back to 
> its usual spot for archival purposes, should I ever solve this vexing problem.
>
>My IT guys blames this on RoboHelp and says FrameMaker, Windows Explorer 
> and RoboHelp don't play nicely together. But I don't' really believe him. My 
> installation of RoboHelp is working just fine - no problems with it at all - 
> just FrameMaker and Explorer.
>
>   Any thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>   I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with RoboHelp X5.0.1 and Windows XP Professional 
> version 2002, Service Pack 2.

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 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Frame Crashing

[Karyn Hunt]

In this case, I'm certain it's not the network b/c everything is on my local 
hard drive. FrameMaker and RoboHelp are installed on my C drive under Program 
Files. The image folders are under "My Documents." (The path is roughly 
/Frame files + a subfolder with the images/images. It's the final 
folder  that keeps corrupting. 

Another oddity is that even if FrameMaker isn't open, once that folder decides 
not to cooperate, I can't even open it in Windows Explorer. We can, however, 
get images out if we go into it in a command window (DOS).

k

-Original Message-
From: Bob Colwell [mailto:bob.colw...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:41 AM
To: Art Campbell; Karyn Hunt
Cc: framers
Subject: RE: Frame Crashing

Back in 1987 I had been using Framemaker for a couple of years, when
a new version came out that included a networking feature. I tried 
using it, and found that everything had slowed to a crawl. I sent off
a blistering review of the new product to Framemaker, and got an email
back a few days later from the president of the company, apologizing
for our troubles, expressing surprise, and suggesting some experiments
to try to pinpoint the problem. The first experiment showed that it was
our own (new) network causing the problem. I sent a contrite "whoops,
never mind" to Framemaker. Had this been a Windows network (impossible
in 1987, yeah I know) I would have suspected that right away...-BobC

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bob.colwell=comcast@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bob.colwell=comcast.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:22 AM
To: Karyn Hunt
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Frame Crashing


Are the FM and graphics files local, on a network drive, or mixed?

If the network is involved, hiccups there and in the way Windows is
reading the network file system would be my first guess.

Art

Frame Crashing

[Art Campbell]

Karyn,

I'd say you're having a hard drive or OS problem. One key is your
"Other Oddity" -- that isn't normal behavior for Windows XP.

Have you run Norton, checkdisk, or a similar disk utility to check
both the media and the operating system (and the file / directory
structure) out?

And have you backed your files up?

Art



On 4/7/06, Karyn Hunt  wrote:
> In this case, I'm certain it's not the network b/c everything is on my local 
> hard drive. FrameMaker and RoboHelp are installed on my C drive under Program 
> Files. The image folders are under "My Documents." (The path is roughly 
> /Frame files + a subfolder with the images/images. It's the 
> final folder  that keeps corrupting.
>
> Another oddity is that even if FrameMaker isn't open, once that folder 
> decides not to cooperate, I can't even open it in Windows Explorer. We can, 
> however, get images out if we go into it in a command window (DOS).
>

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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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 DoD 358

FrameMaker on Mac

[Art Campbell]

I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software

Art

On 4/7/06, Steve Rickaby  wrote:


> I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and 
> publishing industries, and talked to the people on the Apple stand. Their 
> general view was that Apple had done it because there were a lot of Windows 
> users who wanted to run XP on Apple's 'real cool, superior hardware' [I am 
> quoting here]. I hope this doesn't turn out to be hubris. My concern is that 
> with Apple MacIntels being able to run XP, what is the incentive for Adobe to 
> go on producing *any Mac applications at all*?
> --
> Steve
>


--
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

FrameMaker on Mac

[David Creamer]

> P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.

It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.

As a trainer, I look forward to "slimming" down to one computer when
traveling, but I'm waiting for the larger screen portables.


David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified (since 1995) for ALL Print and Web
Publishing-related software
Authorized Quark Provider (since 1988)
Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified
Apple Certified Consultant (since 1990)

FrameMaker on Mac

[Bill Briggs]

At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
> > P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
>
>It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
>Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
>It is actually running Windows on the computer.

 You missed a post or two somewhere along the line. I'm not talking about dual 
boot. Follow the link. http://www.parallels.com/
 This is virtualization, not, booting to windows. I don't want either, but dual 
booting is more inconvenient than virtual platforms.

- web

(no subject)

[Jim Light]

I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few
seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show up in the
PDF.



*   In most cases I cloned the tables, so nothing (much) is
different between them, except that one of the table heading cells does
not show up in one of these. For all of these the actual cell text is
the same in both the good and bad tables. 
*   I have tried restarting the computer and regenerating the PDF,
but that does not help. 
*   I tried changing the tags, but that doesn't make any difference.
I made sure they are the same as in the cells that show and that does
not help. 
*   I tried using the text editing tool in Acrobat, but the text I
type in is invisible. 
*   Some headings are straddled, some are not. It doesn't matter
some of each are invisible. 



What is going on here? 



Thanks

Jim Light

(no subject)

[Art Campbell]

This _might_ be a symptom of the disappearing font bug that can be
fixed or worked around if you re-hyphenate the document. Easy to
check

Art

On 4/7/06, Jim Light  wrote:
> I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few
> seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show up in the
> PDF.


--
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Call for Papers: FrameMaker 2006 Chautauqua

[Scott Abel]

Calling all presenters! If you are interested in participating as a 
speaker at the FrameMaker 2006 Chautauqua. If so, now is the time to 
submit your proposals.

Proposal submissions:
http://www.travelthepath.com/presproposal.html

This call for papers officially closes April 26th.  Get your 
presentation submission in today. Time is running out!

The Content Wrangler, Inc.
Scott Abel, Content Management Strategist
3421 Crystal Lakes Ct., Sarasota FL 34235
abelsp at netdirect.net  941-359-3416
www.thecontentwrangler.com
Via Skype: abelsp

Don't miss the CM Pros Spring Summit
April 23-24, 2006 - San Francisco
http://www.cmprofessionals.org/events/summit/

Framemaker on Mac

[James Monaco]

Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp  
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --  
the Open Source project for something called "Darwine". Based on  
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows  
application under OS X. Not only don't you not boot Windows, you  
don't even buy it.

I have no idea how stable this will be, or whether Wine works well on  
Linux, and of course there will be glitches, but the concept is  
remarkable.

Think of the ramifications: my guess is that many Windows users love  
their aps not their OS. And if Darwine beats Vista to market. Hmmnn

More info here:

http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-3462-2-79-99483-407346-0-0-0-1

and here:

http://darwine.opendarwin.org/

Updating text with new paragraph tag settings

[Karyn Hunt]

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Updating text with new paragraph tag settings

[Martha J Davidson]

Try File > Import > Formats, and select paragraph and character tags,
imported from Current. Then select the check box for When Importing,
Remove Other Format/Layout Overrides. That should do what you
want.

martha

At 02:41 PM 4/7/2006, Karyn Hunt wrote:
>   I have some very old chapters from some very old books that I'm
>selectively copying and pasting into some new books. The new books have
>slightly different character tag settings (different indents and line
>spacing) so I'm importing the new formats into all the old chapters as I
>copy them in to the new books. Problem is, this old book had a whole lot
>of overrides and when I see the paragraph tags in the new book (in the
>paragraph tag field on the menu), the tag names have asterisks next to
>and have not yet picked up the new settings. So I'm having to go back
>and select each chunk of text and re-tag it with the same tag to make it
>pick up the new settings. Is there some shortcut to quickly update them
>all at once?

--
Martha Jane {Kolman | Davidson}
Dances With Words
editrix at nemasys.com

"Too many words bring about exhaustion."
  --Tao Te Ching, Chapter 5 (translated by Sheets/Tovey)

(no subject)

[Combs, Richard]

Jim Light wrote: 

> I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few 
> seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show 
> up in the PDF.

Just to be clear: the text is fine in FM, it just disappears in the PDF?

> * I tried using the text editing tool in Acrobat, but the text I
> type in is invisible. 

With the TouchUp Text Tool selected, click in or select the "invisible"
text, right-click, and select Properties. Take a look at the info on the
Text tab, especially the font and fill. See if that gives you any hints.


Can it wait until Monday? It's almost beer-thirty here. ;-)

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Anchored frames position

[Gillian Flato]

I have white space on the left side of book. When I import a graphic, I
want the anchored frame to be centered below the line, but centered
within the margins of the text, not to the page size. 

For example, if I have 2 inches of white space on the left side, 4
inches of text, and a 2 inch graphic, I want the anchored Frame to span
from 3 inches in to 5 inches.

How do I do this? I don't want to have to set this for each frame. I
want the Below Current Line feature to look at the paragraph tag, see
what the margins are and center it according to that. 

I tried applying a paragraph style to it but it didn't work.


Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics.com  




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Vanishing Table Heading Cells

[Jim Light]

The text is fine in FM.
The properties of the text in the PDF are the same for the invisible
text as for the visible text. (!!!)

I tried re-importing table definitions, but that didn't help.

I copied the text to a new template and that didn't help.

I made a copy of a good table and copied the body rows into it. (These
tables have the same heading rows, so I can use a good one and just
change the body rows). This worked twice and then it didn't work. About
half of my table collection has this weird problem. 

At this point I am copying a good one and using it to recreate a bad one
over and over until they are all OK.

What on Earth is going on???

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:28 PM
To: Jim Light; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: (no subject)

Jim Light wrote: 

> I have a problem that is making me crazy. There are a few 
> seemingly-random table heading cells whose text does not show 
> up in the PDF.

Just to be clear: the text is fine in FM, it just disappears in the PDF?

> * I tried using the text editing tool in Acrobat, but the text I
> type in is invisible. 

With the TouchUp Text Tool selected, click in or select the "invisible"
text, right-click, and select Properties. Take a look at the info on the
Text tab, especially the font and fill. See if that gives you any hints.


Can it wait until Monday? It's almost beer-thirty here. ;-)

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Anchored frames position

[Robert Stoker]

I believe our Graphfix plug-in will do what you want, if I read you 
correctly. Download the trial version of the plug-in from our website 
(www.seatechpubs.com). Choose "Services," choose "Plug-ins," and then, 
look for the download link for the Graphfix plug-in. Contact me if you 
need a Mac version.

After you install the plug-in, try the following procedure (please 
forgive me for improper software documentation techniques, I'm a 
gearhead):

1. If you are using structured Frame, place the insertion point at a 
valid graphic insertion point in the structure view.  Note: the plug-in 
will allow you to insert elements in invalid places. For unstructured 
Frame, place your curser where you want the graphic.

2. Perform the following shortcut: esc = i. This shortcut is case 
sensitive.

3. If you are using structured Frame,  choose an element tag from the 
drop-down box. (The plug-in parses your EDD and determines the valid 
graphic elements.) Skip this step if you are using unstructured Frame.

4. Choose "Below Current Line" from the anchoring position drop-down 
box.

5. Choose "Center" from the alignment drop-down box.

6. Check the "Floating" box.

7. Click on the "Change" radio button to change the current frame 
configuration settings. (Default frame configuration settings can be 
changed under the "Graphfix" menu. Changing the default settings in the 
plug-in has no effect on the FrameMaker default settings.)

8. Choose the "Custom" radio button, and enter your desired the width 
and height. (I would suggest you try other settings to find the best 
for you.)

9. Change other configuration settings to your liking.

10. Choose the "Set" button.

11. Choose the insert button, and navigate to the graphic you want to 
insert.

12. Choose the graphic. The plug-in should place the graphic is where 
you want it.

You may need to play around with the settings a little. I'm not sure 
how your template is set up. Once you have set your defaults, the 
plug-in remembers the next time you insert a graphic.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Robert Stoker
Seatech Publications, Inc.
Content Development,
FrameMaker Plug-ins, and
Product Information Management Systems
www.seatechpubs.com

-Original Message Follows-
Anchored frames position
Gillian Flato  gflato at nanometrics.com
  Fri Apr 7 16:39:08 MDT 2006

I have white space on the left side of book. When I import a graphic, I
want the anchored frame to be centered below the line, but centered
within the margins of the text, not to the page size.

For example, if I have 2 inches of white space on the left side, 4
inches of text, and a 2 inch graphic, I want the anchored Frame to span
from 3 inches in to 5 inches.

How do I do this? I don't want to have to set this for each frame. I
want the Below Current Line feature to look at the paragraph tag, see
what the margins are and center it according to that.

I tried applying a paragraph style to it but it didn't work.


Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics.com  

Anchored frames position

[Combs, Richard]

Gillian Flato wrote: 

> I have white space on the left side of book. When I import a 
> graphic, I want the anchored frame to be centered below the 
> line, but centered within the margins of the text, not to the 
> page size. 

Robert Stoker's plug-in may do it for you, but may I suggest a different
approach? Create a new pgf format called, for instance,
FrameAnchorCentered. Define as centered, make sure line spacing is NOT
fixed, and specify the space above and below to put the frame where you
want. Then put your anchored frames into FrameAnchorCentered pgfs using
the At Insertion Point setting (instead of Below Current Line). 

By putting each anchored frame into its own pgf, instead of anchoring in
the text pgf preceding it, you'll have much better control over spacing,
pagination, etc. 

HTH!
Richard


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--
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Where's Framescript?

[Frank Elmore]

Hello all,

The FrameScript web site is working again.

Sorry for the inconvience.

Frank Elmore
Project leader for FrameScript

- Original Message - 
From: "donandjudy1" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Where's Framescript?


> Folks:
>
> As I head back into heavy FrameMaker use to attach another project, I've
> decided to check out Framescript in order to add macro creation ability, 
> if
> nothing else, to my publishing capabilities.
>
> But lo and behold, my attempts to go to www.framescript.com has popped up 
> no
> more than the old "this page cannot be displayed" message.
>
> What gives? Is this temporary? Is it just me? Or what?
>
> ~ Don Spencer
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Changing Attribute Types

[Grinnell Larry-ELG001]

Changing attribute types: Frame 7.0 Structured Developer's guide states
that without a Read/Write rule, Frame changes all NMTOKENS attribute
types to Strings on import then changes all Strings attribute types to
CDATA types on export (pages 248-249).

I need to ensure certain attribute values are NMTOKENS type on export
but I can't get the following argument (from page 425) to work in my R/W
rules: nmtokens attribute "Role" is fm Strings attribute;

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!!!

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Staff Systems Administrator 
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