[Frameworks] deal on 7222 black and white
Hi folks, I'm looking to acquire some 7222 black and white 16mm film at a cheap price and was wondering if anyone on Frameworks might have some stock they would be willing to part with. I'm looking for about 1200'. I do have some stocks that I would be willing to trade for as well. I have tons of 3383 16mm colour print stock if this interests anyone and lots of 35mm 2374 and 5302. Thanks! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] processing 16mm colour negative
Thanks Herb for your help. I processed a second roll today with longer developer times and had better results but my neg is a reddish colour so I think I may need to extend my blix times as well. I will try this Wednesday and see what I end up with. The PB-2 recipe I got from a filmmaker in South America. From my understanding its basically the recipe Kodak uses to remove remjet - ECN - 2 kit. It works perfect! No problem removing the remjet and it just flows out during the rinse. Here is the recipe if you are interested in trying it. WATER (27-38ºC) - 800mlBORAX - 20gSODIUM SULFATE (anhydrous) - 100gSODIUM HYDROXIDE - 1gWATER to complete - 1 litre Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 09:03:53 -0400 From: he...@theria.ca To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] processing 16mm colour negative Sorry for the late reply. I have been looking for my notes, which are packed away somewhere at the moment. It's been about a year since I've processed anything, so from memory, it goes something like this: All temperatures, were according to the press kit. 1) 2min wash. 2) 4min Sodium Sulphite solution for remjet removal. 3) 3min wash (a second, if it looks like there's still more remjet hanging around) 4) 5:30min developer 5) 3min Wash 6) 11min ish Blix 7) 6min Wash, fresh water per pass. 8) Two passes for stabilizer 9) Played with two passes of photo flo, due to persistently sticky film. It might work, but needs more testing. I'm curious about the PB-2 formula you mentioned. Herb On 05.09.2014 18:09, Roger Wilson wrote: Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone on this list has some times for processing kodak colour negative 16mm film in a Morse G3 tank using Jobo C-41 Press Kit? This is what I have been doing and find the contrast to be lower then I had expected. I process 100' rolls. FIRST RUN THROUGH PB-2 FORMULA TO REMOVE REMJET - 4 minutes: equaling 4 passes - temp- 38 Celsius RINSE WITH WATER 5 MINUTES: equaling 6 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 Celsius DEVELOPER: 7 minutes equaling 7 passes - temp- 38 Celsius 2ND RINSE: 6 minutes equaling 8 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 Celsius BLIX: 12 minutes equaling 12 passes - temp- 38 Celsius FINAL RINSE: 16 minutes over 16 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 Celsius STABILIZER: 4 minutes equaling 4 passes - room temperature HANG FILM TO DRY: Thanks folks! Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca [1] Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Links: -- [1] http://www.rogerdwilson.ca/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] processing 16mm colour negative
Good idea Scott! Thanks I will try that! Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:02:02 -0400 From: klu...@panix.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] processing 16mm colour negative If you have a reddish cast, try just re-running the film through the blix and stabilizer again. If you use split bleach and fixer, you can adjust the times independently to leave controlled amounts of silver behind while still completely fixing the image. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] processing 16mm colour negative
Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone on this list has some times for processing kodak colour negative 16mm film in a Morse G3 tank using Jobo C-41 Press Kit? This is what I have been doing and find the contrast to be lower then I had expected. I process 100' rolls. First run through PB-2 Formula to remove Remjet - 4 minutes: equaling 4 passes - temp- 38 CelsiusRinse with water 5 minutes: equaling 6 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 CelsiusDeveloper: 7 minutes equaling 7 passes - temp- 38 Celsius2nd Rinse: 6 minutes equaling 8 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 CelsiusBlix: 12 minutes equaling 12 passes - temp- 38 CelsiusFinal Rinse: 16 minutes over 16 passes using fresh water per pass - temp- 38 CelsiusStabilizer: 4 minutes equaling 4 passes - room temperatureHang film to dry: Thanks folks! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas
Please check out my Cinema-Trike installation under Ottawa's Plaza Bridge https://vimeo.com/105236259 The event was last night and had a wonderful crowd! Thanks to all who came out! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:01:47 -0400 From: nkov...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas Sad to hear. I believe Cinecycle here in Toronto has run a bike powered projector in the past. I thought it might have been your system. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: No unfortunately Nicholas I've not had the cinema-trike in Toronto yet. I've submitted it to a few events in T.O. but still no go. I actually have a show tonight with the trike in Ottawa under the Plaza Bridge. Roger Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:01:59 -0400 From: nkov...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas That sounds unbelievably cool! Has it ever been to Toronto? On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: I have a cinema trike that powers a 16mm film projector and can run as long as you can keep your legs moving:). You can see more on my website www.rogerdwilson.ca Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:37:11 -0400 From: elizmcma...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas I think this is really terrific! Not necessarily innovative any longer in general, but this is a clever application and soon, one day, hopefully will be adopted as routine. http://tinyurl.com/kyauq5e -- Elizabeth ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas
I have a cinema trike that powers a 16mm film projector and can run as long as you can keep your legs moving:). You can see more on my website www.rogerdwilson.ca Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:37:11 -0400 From: elizmcma...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas I think this is really terrific! Not necessarily innovative any longer in general, but this is a clever application and soon, one day, hopefully will be adopted as routine. http://tinyurl.com/kyauq5e -- Elizabeth ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas
No unfortunately Nicholas I've not had the cinema-trike in Toronto yet. I've submitted it to a few events in T.O. but still no go. I actually have a show tonight with the trike in Ottawa under the Plaza Bridge. Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:01:59 -0400 From: nkov...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas That sounds unbelievably cool! Has it ever been to Toronto? On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: I have a cinema trike that powers a 16mm film projector and can run as long as you can keep your legs moving:). You can see more on my website www.rogerdwilson.ca Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:37:11 -0400 From: elizmcma...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Solar Energy to Help Power Film Screenings at Cobble Hill Cinemas I think this is really terrific! Not necessarily innovative any longer in general, but this is a clever application and soon, one day, hopefully will be adopted as routine. http://tinyurl.com/kyauq5e -- Elizabeth ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December
Hi Jean-Louis, I would be interested in hearing more about these other options for bw. I know of Orwo but I find it hard to obtain their stocks here in Canada unless you know of somewhere other then LIFT in Toronto? LIFT carries a few of there stocks but not all of them. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: bolext...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:53:06 -0400 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I mention this to them.True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily. Jean-Louis On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote:I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety, I would be most grateful! edo On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com wrote: Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that implying that Kodak doesn't have a firm commitment to analog filmmaking is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more complicated than that. Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here but the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these committed firms will start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of these devoted manufacturers... All best, Pablo. On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin bolext...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X.Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to Tri-X. I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on everything. Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Call for Entries 22nd Chicago Underground Film Festival
Thanks for the info Bryan. Does the festival pay artists fees for selected films? Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:49:14 -0500 From: bryan.wend...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Fwd: Call for Entries 22nd Chicago Underground Film Festival THE CALL FOR ENTRIES IS NOW OPEN FOR THE 22nd Chicago Underground Film Festival The Chicago Underground Film Festival exists to showcase the defiantly independent filmmaker. Our mission is to promote films and videos that dissent radically in form, technique, or content from the “indie” mainstream and to present adventurous works that challenge and transcend commercial and audience expectations…if you suspect your film is “underground,” it probably is. CUFF 22 will take place April 15-19, 2015 in Chicago, IL HOW TO SUBMIT To submit your film(s) with our online form and payment system, please click here. http://cuff.org/entry-form/ - OR - To submit your film(s) via Withoutabox, please click the link below: https://www.withoutabox.com/login/1095 If you have questions regarding your submission or the submission process, please contact Bryan Wendorf at i...@cuff.org. Withoutabox logos are trademarks of Withoutabox, a DBA of IMDb.com Inc. or its affiliates. POSTMARK DEADLINES DEADLINES ENTRY FEES: Early Deadline: Oct 1, 2014 – Entry Fee: Features $35 (Students $20); Shorts $30 (Students $15) Regular Deadline: Nov 15, 2014 – Entry Fee: Features $45 (Students $20); Shorts $35 (Student $15) Late Deadline: Dec 15, 2014 – Entry Fee: Features $55 (Students $25); Shorts $40 (Student $20) Please mail all packages to: Chicago Underground Film Festival 2044 W Chicago Ave #155 Chicago, IL 60622 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] removing dust marks on transfer
Thanks Dave. I will pass this on to the editor. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: djte...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:42:29 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] removing dust marks on transfer I was thinking it would be an expensive process to remove digitally. It's not necessarily _monetarily_ expensive. You can do it manually if you can afford the time. Of course, you want as clean a transfer as possible, but there are still likely to be some big nasty dust spot every X number of frames. The trick to manual dust removal is that your spot is only on one frame while the image likely persists over several frames. 1. So you put the film in a timeline in FCP or Premiere or whatever in two layered tracks. 2. The top is the copy-to-be-repaired and the bottom os the patch. 3. Offset the bottom track/layer a couple frames in either direction. 4. Make a four-point garbage matte around the first dust spot, applying a lot of smoothing to the outline and a lot of feather to the edge. 5. Voila. The frame below should now fill in the dust spot. 6. Copy the matte, paste it into the other frames with dust spots, and move it over the spots. (This is easier than drawing a new matte). Frames with more than one spot need more than one matte. 7. Review each filled spot. Most will probably look OK as the part of the patch frame peeking through will be similar to the hole in the repaired frame. Where the camera or subject have moved enough, though, there will be no match and the patched hole will as obvious as the original spot. So we need to get a proper fill under the hole: A. Cut and trim the video in the patch track, so you can move this particular patch frame around without messing up any others. B. An appropriate fill area is likely to be available either in some other part of the patch frame, or a on a frame offset in the other direction - i.e. if your patch track is +2 frames offset from the main track, a frame at -1 offset might work. C. To save time you'll prefer to do one or the other: 1) offset the XY center of the existing patch frame, 2) try a different patch frame a few frames away, but not both unless it's absolutely necessary. 8. of course, you only want to perform this operation on frames that are for sure going to be in the finished film, so it comes after you have a tight edit (but before you do any slo motion effects in software...) ... Yes, I've done this for a half-hour film. Yes, it was incredibly tedious. Yes, it took a very long time. Yes, it took several passes because I kept finding spots I'd missed on the previous pass. Yes, the results were worth it. In this case anyway. As Jeff noted I think only half-jokingly, a certain amount of imperfections can be part of a filmic aesthetic. It all depends on material and purpose. Sometimes you'll want a little dust, sometimes it won't matter, sometimes you need the frame to be really clean to preserve the fragile poetics of a shot. So when I say my labor was worth it, that's contextualized by how much clean-frame-vs.-dusty-frame mattered in terms of the aesthetics of the particular work at hand. YMMV. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] removing dust marks on transfer
Hi folks, A few weeks back there was some conversation happening around removing dust marks from a digital transfer of film. I am wondering what processes were being suggested to use to remove the marks digitally. I recently shot a Super 16mm film for a fellow filmmaker and we just got the transfer back and it has lots of white dust marks on the transfer, there also appears to be some chemical stains on sections as well.We are planning on sending the film back to the lab to have it cleaned and re-transferred but in the case that some marks remain on the film I am wondering how we can deal with it and hopefully eliminate the problem. The shot images look awesome, with very sharp bw contrast so it would be a real disappointment to have these dust marks on the final edit. I take huge steps in being sure the camera and mags are cleaned and prepped in between rolls, plus I do scratch tests on all new rolls being loaded in the camera. There is absolutely no scratches or build up of emulsion on frame lines so I can only think this is an error that has happened either during processing or transfer. Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] removing dust marks on transfer
Thanks Jeff and Scott for your feedback. I was thinking it would be an expensive process to remove digitally. Hopefully the problem will be solved in the cleaning of the negs. I won't mention the lab or the transfer house because I use both for my own work and I've never had problems with them, I've also shot film for other local filmmakers who have used their services successfully. To be honest I don't know a lab that hasn't screwed something up in the past, from Industry to Independent, the problem is getting them to admit it and fix it. Thanks guys! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:20:00 -0400 From: klu...@panix.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] removing dust marks on transfer What I want to know is what lab processed this film and how can I avoid them? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] film thief, copyright idiot
This is unfortunate and with the way things are with the online world its hard for you to even take action to get it removed. I do not post anything online that I am at all concerned with someone stealing. I am even very paranoid with having password protected films on vimeo but so many festivals these days only want the online submissions. Thanks for the heads up Raymond, it was good of you to share this with the group. Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:21:48 -0700 From: dominic.anger...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film thief, copyright idiot This is very common, beware everyone believes everything is fair use these days despite laws and some restrictions. And maybe they are correct. If he makes money on it you can probably sue him. I caution anyone who places work on youtube. However, I can find almost any film (narrative, documentary, etc.) on youtube. I do not look for ag films there. DA On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Raymond Salvatore Harmon creatc...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all Just a polite heads up. I was recently approached by a composer named Patrick H Kowalewski, who requested the use of one of my films to use as a music video. I declined and told him that although I do make music videos on commission my films have specific soundtracks, editing, etc. Of course today I have found that despite being told no he went and used it anyway. So just in case someone named Patrick H Kowalewski (or various other band names he uses on youtube) approaches you to use your work I would keep and eye out shortly afterward for infringement. Yours RSH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Intergenerational Media
Hi folks, A friend of mine is putting together a screening and is looking for suggestions on the following. If you have recommendations please forward them to me and I will pass them on to her. Thanks I'm currently doing a project called Intergenerational Media and I'm looking for a documentary film - ideally from Quebec or Canada - to screen as part of an event in June. I was wondering if anyone has come across a recent film relating to these issues: the succession of family farms, intergenerational family businesses, or ageism / prejudices towards seniors? Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Steenbeck- Trenton, NJ
Yeah I totally would but unfortunately I'm in Canada. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 17:36:12 -0400 From: bcfilmf...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] 16mm Steenbeck- Trenton, NJ Someone from the list should nab this baby... http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Itemitemid=1359acctid=1581 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] processing film in coffee
Thanks Caryn! This is perfect! Its amazing what Dagie has accomplished! Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:04:23 -0400 From: carynycl...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] processing film in coffee I know that many filmmakers are experimenting with alternate development processes, but one artist whose methods are worth looking at is the German-based filmmaker Dagie Brundert. (Dagie, are you on this list?) Dagie's developed films using all kinds of organic materials, and she keeps experimenting. Check out her site: Best, CC On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi folks! I'm doing a little research on alternative recipes for black and white film developer, basically anything outside the professional methods (kodak, Ilford chemicals). I know coffee (caffenol) is the most popular used method but I'm wondering what else has been done. I've heard rumors of beer and urine being used? Maybe wine? Thoughts? Thanks everyone! Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Caryn Cline co-producer, Acts of Witnesswww.actsofwitness.com vimeo.com/carynyc ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter
I have had a number of optical tracks created over the years and have never had the lab (Skylight Studios in Toronto) make this request. Is it a 16mm mono track or 35mm? Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: jaredphutchin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:35:21 -0500 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter Hello, all,I am almost ready to send out for an optical track for my first sync-sound print. I gave a call to the lab which photographs for optical tracks and I was told that my sound needed to be treated with an academy pre-emphasis filter. I was wondering if this (possibly expensive?) stage is necessary for my film sound. The soundtrack to my short is pretty primitive-sounding and not reliant on great fidelity. Thanks!Jared ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter
Ok I'm not a sound guy but I think this is just an audio filter used to improve the signal to noise ratio. Did you have a final sound mix completed on the sound track for the film? I think your sound designer/final mixer would have taken this into account but you should check. I create my own sound designs for my films but then have a professional sound tech do the final sound mix and prep it for optical print. Hope this helps some! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: jaredphutchin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:46:44 -0500 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter Thanks for the quick reply. It's 16mm. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: I have had a number of optical tracks created over the years and have never had the lab (Skylight Studios in Toronto) make this request. Is it a 16mm mono track or 35mm? Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: jaredphutchin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:35:21 -0500 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter Hello, all,I am almost ready to send out for an optical track for my first sync-sound print. I gave a call to the lab which photographs for optical tracks and I was told that my sound needed to be treated with an academy pre-emphasis filter. I was wondering if this (possibly expensive?) stage is necessary for my film sound. The soundtrack to my short is pretty primitive-sounding and not reliant on great fidelity. Thanks!Jared ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter
Hi again Jared, Have a look at this link, it talks about prepping audio for 16mm mono track and creating optical tracks. http://www.sfu.ca/~gotfrit/ZAP_Sept.3_99/f/fsnd_lect_16mm_mix.html Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: jaredphutchin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:35:21 -0500 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Optical Sound - filter Hello, all,I am almost ready to send out for an optical track for my first sync-sound print. I gave a call to the lab which photographs for optical tracks and I was told that my sound needed to be treated with an academy pre-emphasis filter. I was wondering if this (possibly expensive?) stage is necessary for my film sound. The soundtrack to my short is pretty primitive-sounding and not reliant on great fidelity. Thanks!Jared ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Best route Reversal Film Release print?
Hi Julian, I would recommend creating an inter-negative using Kodak 7234 and then make a print from this inter-negative using 7203. I have done this myself using a variety of tools. Do you do any hand processing? Do you have access to an optical printer? Better yet a 16mm steenbeck would work as a contact printer. Creating a contact print would be the best and will closer match that of your original where as using an optical printer you will end up cropping the original 16mm footage slightly. If you want more info on anything here just let me know. Good luck! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:11:40 -0500 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Best route Reversal Film Release print? Can someone recommend the best workflow for edited B+W reversal to positive release print ? This is just for some home movies I am cutting together, nothing too fancy, no sound. I'd just like to have a projection print so I'm not screening the original. Thanks! Julian -- Julian Antos Northwest Chicago Film Societywww.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org 773 827 8991 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
Thanks folks! I'm hoping to just get lucky and find the holders from an old table somewhere, everything works fine on the table its just a couple of the fuse holders got broken during a move. I will try Steenbeck but I've contacted them in the past and I find they are not very helpful with older parts. Thanks again! Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:19:41 -0400 From: klu...@panix.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck The original fuse holder is made by Schurter, and what you show here is just the carriage. The contacts on the part that is in the machine are bad, which is why the contacts on the carriage are failing. You have to replace the entire fuse holder assembly, not just the carriage. My inclination is just to put a piece of sheet metal over the hole and install a modern panel mount fuse holder that takes a 5/8 round hole. It should be less than an hour for a competent technician. This would be much easier than trying to locate a US source for one that is the same physical shape. It is POSSIBLE that this is the same form factor as the model 348070/ 348007 pair from Electronic Plus, as seen here: http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?maincat=fussubcat=fho And that might work if your goal is to avoid doing any sheet metal work. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Moviola for sale, Boston Area
Im dying to get my hands on a 16mm flatbed edit table so if anyone ever hears of one in the Ottawa Canada area going cheap please let me know. I still edit all my films on film. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: sgeo...@ucsd.edu To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:55:53 + Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Moviola for sale, Boston Area Jeff, I just passed on a Moviola 4 plate with the good prism for $200 Sherman On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: On Mar 22, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Ethan Berry ethan.be...@montserrat.edu wrote: I am brokering the sale of a Moviola 6 plate flatbed editing table. Model M84 in working condition. Currently in storage north of Boston, photo's available. Asking price is $2,200. The M84 is a 4-plate, the M86 was a 6-plate. Moviola flatbeds are very hard to maintain (parts hard to get) and usually are given away — these days people often give late-model Steenbecks away, and they are much more usable. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Sherman George sgeo...@ucsd.edu 858-229-4368 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal
I think Kodak discontinued making the T-max kit a few years back, which is one of the reasons why I process as a negative and then make my prints using kodak 7203 print stock. But you can still process as a reversal and there are recipes out there to make your own bleach for reversal processing. Here is a link to my site where I have notes on negative processing with D19. http://www.rogerdwilson.ca/2/post/2014/02/hand-processing-16mm-bw-film-with-kodak-d19.html Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 09:12:21 -0800 From: jihalp...@yahoo.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal Here's a guide to processing as reversal using a T-Max kit: http://www.ralphdickinson.com/process_site/allpages.html Can you provide us with a little background here? For example, as Roger put, reversal or negative? Anything special you're looking for in developing, or as clean an image as possible? What's your prior experience with processing (still or motion film)? etc. -Jason Halprin On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:18 PM, chapin long lonch...@gmail.com wrote: Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Chapin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal
I think when using Dektol developer the following would be the proper times and procedures for processing Tri X as a reversal. As mentioned I use D19 developer myself and my times are different so run tests first. Developer 7 minuteswash 1 minutebleach 4 minuteswash 1 minuteClear bath 30 secondswash 1 minutere exposure to light - 1 to 2 minutesre-developer 5 minutesfix 5 minutesfinal wash 10 minutes I've started to mix a lot of my own chemicals to make developer, etc and its not hard to do but just be sure to be cautious because you are using chemicals that can be rather toxic. I believe the following is the basic chemistry to making your own bleach. Can someone on Frameworks confirm this? Note: mix the potassium with the water and then add the sulfuric acid to the mixture. You should be careful not to add the water/potassium mixture to the sulfuric acid but the other way around. Use gloves and eye wear protection!1 liter of water9.5 grams of potassium dichromate12 ml of sulfuric acid (concentrated) Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: ste...@radonlake.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:35:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal You can still get a T-Max kit from Photographers Formulary in the US: http://stores.photoformulary.com/reversal-developer-for-t-max/ It's listed as developer but contains the bleach as well. - Stefan Grabowski From: rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca To: jihalp...@yahoo.com; frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 18:13:32 + Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal I think Kodak discontinued making the T-max kit a few years back, which is one of the reasons why I process as a negative and then make my prints using kodak 7203 print stock. But you can still process as a reversal and there are recipes out there to make your own bleach for reversal processing. Here is a link to my site where I have notes on negative processing with D19. http://www.rogerdwilson.ca/2/post/2014/02/hand-processing-16mm-bw-film-with-kodak-d19.html Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 09:12:21 -0800 From: jihalp...@yahoo.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Bucket Developing 16mm Tri X Reversal Here's a guide to processing as reversal using a T-Max kit: http://www.ralphdickinson.com/process_site/allpages.html Can you provide us with a little background here? For example, as Roger put, reversal or negative? Anything special you're looking for in developing, or as clean an image as possible? What's your prior experience with processing (still or motion film)? etc. -Jason Halprin On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:18 PM, chapin long lonch...@gmail.com wrote: Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Chapin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] searching for 16mm guillotine splicer
Hi folks! I am looking to purchase a 16mm guillotine style splicer, if anyone has leads I would love to hear about them. Thanks everyone! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] searching for 16mm guillotine splicer
Thanks Isaac! Yeah I did a search online and saw a few on ebay but the prices are a little too high for me. I had a nice catozzo but I had it stolen at a public event.:(. I have two great 35mm splicer and would consider trading one for a nice 16mm. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:27:29 -0600 From: isaacbrook...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] searching for 16mm guillotine splicer Hi Roger, There are probably some deals to be had on eBay, or via a CML mailing list inquiry. CML unearths some surprising deals on older analog gear from folks who are eager to turn in the old for the new. Dwight Cody sells editing supplies, and I believe he stocks splicers. If you want something that comes with a quality guarantee, Dwight will probably offer a competitive deal on a close-to-mint splicer. He repairs/services them too, when the time comes. Website: http://www.cutfilm.com/ Happy hunting, Isaac On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi folks! I am looking to purchase a 16mm guillotine style splicer, if anyone has leads I would love to hear about them. Thanks everyone! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 kodachrome II
Hi Johannes, I have a friend who has notes on how to process this film as bw but he is in Africa until the end of next week, once he gets back I will get them from him and forward them to you. Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 20:44:28 +0100 From: johannesschr...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 kodachrome II hi, roger, thanx for your answer. we had the same remjet coating on the k40 and k25 films too and removed them easy after developing by hand. we do not mind the diy look afterwards. to all of you: i think there must be a way to develop kodachrome 2 in bw negativ. rocky mountain film lab and filmrescue.com are develping this film. anyone knowing someone working there how could ask for their secret? no one ever done this? pleace help! best regards johannes and milena Am 27.01.2014 22:01, schrieb Roger Wilson: Doesn't Kodachrome 2 have the remjet antihalation on it? Did you remove it first? I think then you just process it like regular bw but I've not done it myself so I can't say for sure. However, here is a list of chemicals that you use to make the remjet removal. I use this recipe for colour processing and it removes the remjet completely with no extra work. I use a morse G3 tank and run it through this recipe for 4 minutes max. This is the one from kodak ECN-2: WATER (27-38ºC) - 800ml BORAX - 20g SODIUM SULFATE (anhydrous) - 100g SODIUM HYDROXIDE - 1g WATER to complete - 1 litre Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:50:00 +0100 From: j...@gmx.at To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 hi, is there anyone who knows how to develop a kodachrome 2 in bw negative or reversal? the process originally was k11 or k12. i developed the kodachrome 40 and 25 with the foma chemie in bw reversal and it worked well. but foma did not work with the old kodachrome 2. i tried to develop the kodachrome2 with b+w neg. process with ilfosol developer and the film was completely black, also on the edges! thanx for hints! best regards johannes filmkoop wien ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Milwaukee Underground Film Festival 2014 CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS
Are screening fees paid to artists whose films are selected to screen at MUFF? Thanks Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:33:18 -0600 From: m...@film-milwaukee.org To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Milwaukee Underground Film Festival 2014 CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS Only 7 week left to submit to M.U.F.F. 2014 The Milwaukee Underground Film Festival is now seeking submissions for the 2014 edition, running May 1-4 at multiple venues in Milwaukee, WI. Entry form is available for download can be emailed back to us or sent through standard mail. All submission fees can be paid through Paypal on our website: www.filmmilwaukee.org/ ** The Milwaukee Underground Film Festival is a student-run, international film festival dedicated to showcasing contemporary works of film and video that innovate in form, technique, and content. This annual event exhibits independent films from around the world. We are interested in publicly presenting the best in artistic, experimental, original, humorous, political and visionary film and video work. The Milwaukee Underground Film Festival is a nationally recognized non-profit student organization at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. ** Entry deadline: Thursday, March 13, 2014 Entry Fee: $15 per entry / $20 total for multiple entries ($10 per entry for Milwaukee County residents students) Entry fee waived for filmmakers who have exhibited their work in previous editions of MUFF. Multiple-projector/ expanded cinema/ installation proposals encouraged! Questions? Contact: Kellie Bronikowski / muff@film-milwaukee.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975
Doesn't Kodachrome 2 have the remjet antihalation on it? Did you remove it first? I think then you just process it like regular bw but I've not done it myself so I can't say for sure. However, here is a list of chemicals that you use to make the remjet removal. I use this recipe for colour processing and it removes the remjet completely with no extra work. I use a morse G3 tank and run it through this recipe for 4 minutes max. This is the one from kodak ECN-2:WATER (27-38ºC) - 800mlBORAX - 20gSODIUM SULFATE (anhydrous) - 100gSODIUM HYDROXIDE - 1gWATER to complete - 1 litre Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:50:00 +0100 From: j...@gmx.at To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 hi, is there anyone who knows how to develop a kodachrome 2 in bw negative or reversal? the process originally was k11 or k12. i developed the kodachrome 40 and 25 with the foma chemie in bw reversal and it worked well. but foma did not work with the old kodachrome 2. i tried to develop the kodachrome2 with b+w neg. process with ilfosol developer and the film was completely black, also on the edges! thanx for hints! best regards johannes filmkoop wien ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] LA super 8 camera: borrow/rental
Pro 8mm is in Burbank. They rent Super 8mm cameras.Phone: 818-848-5522 Email: i...@pro8mm.com Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: eteh...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 05:11:50 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] LA super 8 camera: borrow/rental Dear Frameworkers, Hello, I hope you are well. I am in a sticky super 8 situation.. My camera is unable to function due to oxidization of the battery (Canon 814 electric). It is now getting repaired. I am visiting from out of the country and need to shoot something as soon as possible; by tonight if that were to somehow work out- and by the latest next Friday. Do any of you in Los Angeles have a super 8 camera capable of shooting 200t that I could rent or borrow? Thank you in advance for any responses. I am grateful to everyone on this listserv for the help and advice over the years and wish all of you a wonderful new year! Respectfully yours, Jennifer ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] DPX files transfer to 16mm negative, for image archiving purpose.
Do you have access to an Oxberry animation camera that shoots 16mm? This may be easier to work with then a bolex/tripod set up. I have never done this myself but know a couple filmmakers who have taken this route and have been very happy with the final results. Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:48:42 +0700 From: kotakhi...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] DPX files transfer to 16mm negative, for image archiving purpose. Dear Frameworks, My name is Edwin.I'm an Indonesian filmmaker, based in Jakarta.There are too many digital films in Indonesia, since the rise of affordable digital cameras. Now we are start questioning how to archive this digital films. With all those codec, and software keep updating. With more commercial films, they can transfer their digital film out to 35mm print. Using ARRI laser film recorder for instance. For short films, it's impossible for us to go to this fancy post production house. Is there any way, to transfer digital films to celluloid?Is there any way to connect bolex motor, sync to DPX files (for example) played frame by frame on HD monitor? Looking forward to hear some ideas. best,Edwin. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 43, Issue 19
Stan Brakhage Mothlight Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:25:52 -0800 From: curtis.t...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 43, Issue 19 i am developing a list of experimental films about insects and islands, please help contribute. thanks, curtis On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:01 AM, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote: Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com You can reach the person managing the list at frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest... Today's Topics: 1. Ralph Steiner's Joy of Seeing (Pablo Marin) 2. Re: projector-less film loops (Sasha Janerus) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Ralph Steiner's Joy of Seeing Message-ID: 1387403683.99956.yahoomail...@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, Anyone out there knows if this is available in any way (print, dvd, link)? Thanks in advance, Pablo Marin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20131218/5dd45369/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:25:03 -0500 From: Sasha Janerus sasha.jane...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] projector-less film loops Message-ID: CADmb+Fw-tOTLxsv=nPL3n8EX=nz+phskbu2cznfeyftxkxd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 A good place to look would be the recent book Exhibiting Cinema in Contemporary Art by Erika Balsom. 3. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Mary Stark maryst...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Rebecca, I have been working with 16mm film as installation using loops, fresnel lenses and film as a sculptural material. If you are interested please look at my website and blog http://www.marystark.co.uk/ http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/ Best wishes, Mary Stark Tel: 07828450979 On 17 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Jonathan Walley wall...@denison.edu wrote: Rebecca, et. al., After re-reading your post, and reading Scott's response, it strikes me that you may have been looking for information about early (e.g. silent, primitive?) film systems that involved viewing 16mm film without lens or projector. Your use of the term installation made me assume expanded cinema, film installation, etc., but then there's your reference to the zoetrope, which suggests that you're looking for something further back in history. Of course, the zoetrope did not use film of any kind. What's more, 16mm film wasn't invented until 1923, by which time projection - with lenses - was, of course, standard practice in film exhibition. I'm not aware of any viewing systems for 16mm that don't employ at least lenses: flatbed editors don't quite project the images, at least not in the same way a projector does, and devices like Moviolas and Moviscopes don't involve projection - the film image is simply magnified into a viewer, not unlike the Kinetsoscope. But these systems are used to edit film reels, not to show loops. And they all use lenses. Specifying your research project would be helpful - can we have a little more detail? Jonathan Dr. Jonathan Walley Associate Professor Department of Cinema Denison University wall...@denison.edu On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: Well, the first loop system was the Edison Kinetoscope but that was 35mm.. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list
Re: [Frameworks] super-8 to 16mm blow ups?
Hi Jarrett, I have completed numerous Super 8mm to 16mm blow ups using a JK printer in the past and have had great results. The main thing to take into consideration is the quality of the Super 8mm footage. Is it recently shot and processed film or is it older stock that has been sitting around for some time. You tend to have more problems with registration with shrunken Super 8mm. With older film I find you get better results if you do not rely on the digital sequencer to advance the film through the projector and to advance it yourself, a frame at a time. Its a longer process but the results are more pleasing. Having a good Super 8mm gate for the JK printer is also a priority. Its not hard to do this yourself but finding system to use may be tough. Do you have any film co-ops or film societies in your area, they may have one or know of where to access one. If you manage to do it yourself give me a shout and I can give you some info on completing tests prior to shooting the final blow up, you will need to complete a few exposure tests, etc. prior to filming. Good luck! Stay on film! Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 21:58:57 -0600 From: jfhay...@gmail.com To: FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] super-8 to 16mm blow ups? Hello all, Does anyone know if Colorlab in Maryland still does blow-ups from super-8 to 16mm? Their new website layout seems to omit this information, whereas I remember reading as much on the old site. If not, are there any labs in the US that will do 8 to 16 blow-ups? Thanks, -J. Hayman ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Bolex animation Motor
Sorry bought mine second hand but I know the person I got it from purchased it from NCS products, however that was a few years back now. Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: m...@guillaumecailleau.com Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:55:16 +0100 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Bolex animation Motor Thank you for the advices. I heard about the Tobin motors but on the website I found:NOTE: All Tobin movie camera motors, speed controllers and the like are discontinued. Our former dealers may still have limited supplies on handDoes anybody have a contact to clive Tobin? I wrote at : Film to DVD @ Comcast.net, (only adress i found on the Website) Roger, where did you get your Timeflow motors? the Revolution Motor is made from the same Company, http://www.intervalometers.com/rev/bolex/ , But I can t reach them by phone (answer machine) nor by email... does anybody know some shops/dealers where I could try to find discontinued products? ebay isn't very helpfull in this regard- best, Guillaume. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] editing 16mm
Hi Kevin, This is a perfectly fine way to make a black and white film. How do you plan to make your print from the negative? I use a 16mm steenbeck to create my 16mm film prints and have actually used the table to also print a sound track onto my 16mm film prints. I edit my negatives using a guillotine splicer with regular 16mm splicing tape. The main thing is to place the tape down on the film so the edges of the tape align to the frame lines as much as possible. However I find when printing with a steenbeck and running the film through the table at its highest speed helps in reducing the visibility of tape and splices in the final print. You can create AB rolls and insert black leader in between shots to reduce the tape/splices but I really think its not necessary considering you can eliminate it during printing if done correctly. Check out this link, http://vimeo.com/78787110 this short has clips from a number of my films and all the black and white films you see here the prints were created using using this process. The final clip is of my most recent bw film print Against the Grain. Both sound and picture were printed onto the release print using a steenbeck. I can send you more info if you want it, do you have access to a steenbeck? Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: ke...@videohaiku.com Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 09:15:07 -0600 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] editing 16mm Hello Frameworks! I have two questions: 1. I'm planning to edit some black and white 16mm negative by hand and I'm looking for advice on how to make the splices as invisible as possible. My plan is to edit the negative and make a contact print for a positive final film. Is this crazy? Mainly I want to do it all myself, and I don't want to mess around with optical printing or a two-strip hot-splicing process. My goal isn't a perfectly clean, seamless print, but I'm wondering if there are any tips I should follow. I heard a rumor once that Brakhage would include frames of black leader in between shots to make splices less visible - but that could be just a dumb rumor. 2. Does anybody have a favorite supplier of 16mm editing materials - black leader, clear leader, splicing tape? I might even want to buy a Guillotine (but in the meantime I can borrow one). Would prefer a referral to a random ebay purchase. Thanks! Kevin Obsatz www.videohaiku.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] editing 16mm
Yes Kevin if you are making a traditional narrative story and you want perfect none scratched images then you should not use the method you are describing but if you are more creative and want to make an experimental film where you are more part of the creative process then I strongly suggest you give it a shot. It sounds like this is what you would like to try. Using this process is not to save you money but it is to give you creative control throughout the process. If you want perfect images go to a lab if you want to be an artist who explores the process then do it yourself. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: djte...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 09:07:33 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] editing 16mm The single black frame invisible splice' technique is for cutting reversal. It's extremely hard to edit negative without mucking it up, which is one reason the normal routine is to cut a workprint and leave the conforming to a pro. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] films/videos using/made up of text
Hi Shelly, I'm just finishing a 35mm film that is based on text taken from my Will, plus I wrote out my Will onto the unexposed film stock using light from a laser pen. All done in complete darkness. The film is titled My Last Words. But if you are looking for mainly women filmmakers then I would defiantly recommend the already mentioned talented filmmaker Kelly Egan - Toronto filmmaker. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. On 14-Nov-13, at 9:42 AM, Shelly Silver wrote: dear collective knowledge base folks: i'm compiling a list of works using text/made up of text. i'm especially interested in works by women. thank you! best, shelly ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] european film labs: super 8, 16 mm, winter, snow, black and white
Hi Jennifer, I am not very familiar with labs in Europe but I would like to recommend Kodak's 7222 bw 16mm film (ISO 200) for shooting winter scenes. I have used this stock a number of times in snowy conditions and when exposed properly results in nice detail in the snow that is not washed out as flat white. You will find the latitude of this film stock more forgiving then Kodak's bw reversal stock 7266. I have never used Orwo bw camera stocks but I have heard good things about their Orwo UN54 (ISO 100). Anyway good luck! Roger Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: eteh...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:25 +0100 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] european film labs: super 8, 16 mm, winter, snow, black and white Dear Frameworkers, I am reaching out to you for your experiences and thoughts on developing, processing, and transferring film in Europe. What are European film labs you have had good experiences and results with? Also, would anyone have a film stock recommendation (either super 8 or 16mm) for shooting snow and winter in black and white? I thank you in advance for your responses! I look forward to getting your feedback. The options seem to be many and some thoughts/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. with love, Jennifer ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Nov 4
Wow! Awesome! I have only been on the list for a little over a year now and have found it to be very informative! Thanks! Happy Birthday! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:57:43 +0900 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com From: framewo...@re-voir.com Subject: [Frameworks] Nov 4 Happy birthday to us Happy birthday to us Happy birthday dear FrameWorks Happy birthday to us 1st post - November 4th, 1995 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Hi Daniel I prefer D19 myself and recently used the D76 because it was all I had and was not happy with the results. I will go back to D19. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:05:01 + From: d.alexanderb...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] (no subject) Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! -- Daniel Boos Moving Image Artist +44 (0)7719 771712 d.alexanderb...@gmail.com skype: danny.boos ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Digitisation of 16mm film in Canada
Hi Insa, Check out Frame Discreet they are awesome and very affordable, based in Toronto. Good Luck Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:36:51 +0100 From: insa.langho...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Digitisation of 16mm film in Canada Hi, I have got some 16mm film material I would like to have digitised and am currently looking for a good place to do this with in Canada. I am based in the UK, so the digitised material would have to be shipped here on an external harddrive; the reels are in Vancouver. There are 3 reels, each one of them is 30min long - so I guess it`s a total of something around 3600 feet. The digitised files should be compatible with Final Cut Pro. I got this quote for the digitisation of all three reels: Video plus audio: $1548 Video only: $1080 Is this a good price or are there any other places you can recommend? Thanks, Insa -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks inline: signature.jpg___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Answer Prints in North America
Niagara Custom Labs in Toronto have always met my timelines and are great at what they do as well! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:29:13 -0500 From: ch...@signaltoground.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Answer Prints in North America Hi all, Any advice on any labs in North America that have a reasonable turn around on answer prints from A + B rolls? I'm having a bit of a fly by the seat of the pants experience with a month long wait and a looming deadline, so I want to hear of any options for the future. best Chris ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Lipsett, Night tide and Lonesome
I would speak to the National Film Board about Lipsett. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: chen...@netvision.net.il To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:12:26 +0200 Subject: [Frameworks] Lipsett, Night tide and Lonesome Dear frameworkers,Does anybody know who distributes the films of Arthur Lipsett?And who distributes “Night Tide” (1961) by Curtis Harrington and “Lonesome” (1928) by Paul Fejos (1928)?Thank you very much,Chen Sheinberg ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] New Uses for Steenbeck 901 Editing Table?
I have used steenbecks to create film prints/workprints, from both 16mm and 35mm negatives. I have also used it to create a 16mm film prints that have optical tracks. Have fun with it! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: most...@telefonica.net Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 08:55:33 +0200 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] New Uses for Steenbeck 901 Editing Table? Dear All, A local production company was giving away a 16mm Steenbeck editing table for the cost of its removal so naturally I enlisted the help of three strong men and brought it home and now it occupies a prominent place in my living room, since it is impossible to get up the stairs or fit into any other room. After testing the unit it works fine and having only used hand-cranked reels up to now this seems like pure joy. However, I wanted to know if anyone can shed light on any of these issues in order to make the machine practical for my personal use: Has anyone turned one of these into a telecine unit (D.I.Y. or Steenbeck factory)? Approximate costs involved? Has anyone made theirs S16 (viewing) compatible? Approximate costs involved? Any way to view neg. film stock as positive on the screen? Any other new ways to put these machines to good use? Appreciate your input! Thanks, Mark ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hand-processing Color Film in LA?
Hi Carrie! Where are you located? I'm in Ottawa Ontario Canada. This is very interesting and is very similar to what I focus my own experimentation on. I have done everything from pre-bleaching my film stock to burying it in the ground prior to photographing images. Please check out my website and lets chat more off list if this interests you. Talk soon! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:40:45 -0700 From: carriemakesmov...@gmail.com To: FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Hand-processing Color Film in LA? Hi FW, I'm looking for someone in LA who is experienced in hand-processing color C-41. I'm interested in trying a technique where I dip-dye unexposed film in India ink, let it dry then shoot with it. Obviously this will ruin any lab's chemicals when they process so i'll need to do this step myself, but only have a darkroom set up for black and white. Anyone in LA point me to a home-hobbyist who might be willing to play with this technique? Thanks!! -- Carrie SchreckFilmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick.carrieschreck.com (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Travel Tripods
Not sure what type of filming you do but when I want to travel light with my bolex but still want to have some smooth shots I use a monopod. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:50:52 -0400 From: ryandmar...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Travel Tripods Any suggestions for a lightweight tripod that can handle a Bolex but is convenient enough for air travel? I will not be in area where renting is an option. DIY suggestions are welcome as well. Thanks in advance! -ryan -- www.ryanmarino.com www.imminentfrequencies.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Which Super8 Stock Should I Use?
Hi Insa, Super 8mm Colour Negative film can look beautiful if it is exposed properly. A big problem filmmakers have is not knowing their super 8mm camera well enough. Most Super 8mm cameras do not have the same shutter angles as 16mm and 35mm cameras (180), the shutter angle on Super 8mm cameras can range from 150 to 220. Because the shutter angle is different in each camera you should first find out what the shutter angle is for your camera. Another thing with shooting Super 8mm negative stock is that most Super 8mm cameras do not read the speed of the new kodak film stocks properly anymore. This is why if you shoot using any Super 8 film stock, whether reversal or negative you should be using a hand held light meter and not rely on the internal light meter. Do this and you will be exposing the film correctly. If you can get some ND (neutral density) filters that fit your lens that would also be a good thing, so you can control the light when shooting in bright sunlight. If you can get some lights I would also recommend using them for your external night scenes. If you can light I would say go with the 200T, if not then the 500T would be best for night scenes. It will be more grainy though, which might be the look you are going for. Controlling your exposure through the process of controlling the light and your f-stops so they work for you is the best method. I like to work with an f-stop of around 4 to 5.6. Somewhere around the centre of the lens creates nice sharp images. As for transfer houses, I use Frame Discreet in Toronto Canada, not sure where you are located. Anyway feel free to contact me directly if you have any other questions. Super 8mm film can look like 16mm if used properly. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: insa.langho...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:40:14 +0100 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Which Super8 Stock Should I Use? Dear Frameworkers, I would like to start working and experimenting with Super8 film. I have got a short film in mind, which I want to shoot in colour. I haven´t got any previous experience of working with film, so I wondered if you could give me any ideas on what stock to get. The film will have a few scenes which are set at night, so I´ll need to get stock with different sensitivities. I have looked at the VISION2 200T Color Negative Super 8 Film and the VISION2 500T Color Negative Super 8 Film - are they any good? I am also not sure whether to get negative or reversal film.I haven´t got much funding, so the cheaper the better I guess. Thank you all so much! Insa filmmaker and editor insa.langho...@gmail.comm: (0044) (0)7789 38 22 84www.insalanghorst.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop_Moving Sale/Giveaway and Screenings This Week
If I was closer I would be at your door step tomorrow morning but I'm in Ottawa Canada:( Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:45:06 -0400 From: jkh30...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop_Moving Sale/Giveaway and Screenings This Week To add to Stephanie's announcement, Millennium has a Bell and Howell JA Contact Printer that is not functional and is too cumbersome to keep. If someone redoes the wiring, they may be able to get it going. However, if no one picks it up, we will have no choice but to scrap it. That would be a shame. It takes about three people to move it. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Stephanie Wuertz wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Millennium is re-locating to http://www.brooklynfireproof.com/ at the beginning of June. We are getting rid of a lot of film equipment some in good shape, some of it needs to be repaired or can be used for parts. We also have a lot of books. There are three screenings this week see info below or on our website. People who attend can check out what we are giving away/selling: Lary 7, Tuesday May 28th, 8pm Elle Burchill, Wednesday May 29th, 8pm Jay Hudson, Thursday May 30th, 8pm Thank you! Stephanie ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!!
Awesome News Ken! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:44:14 -0700 Subject: [Frameworks] New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!! NEW SUPER 8 200D REVERSAL STOCK from Pro 8mm: http://www.pro8mm.com/blog/say-hello-to-color-reversal-super-8-film-again-pro8mm-introduces-new-color-reversal-film-stock/ Ken www.kenpaulrosenthal.comwww.crookedbeauty.comwww.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] a question about negative film stock for s-8mm
Hi Marco, Can I ask what f-stop/t-stop you were working with? I find with these stocks it is very important to use the sharpest part of your lens. With both of these stocks I like to work with a 5.6 f-stop and use ND's when needed. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. From: mar.pol...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 19:38:19 +0200 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] a question about negative film stock for s-8mm Dear Frameworkers, I have a question about film stock for Super-8mm. I am back from a scouting trip for a 16mm film project. I did all the location filming in Super-8mm because I wanted to use the material in the film as well. I worked with my Leicina Special with a Schneider Optivaron 6-66mm zoom, which had just been revised, and with Kodak Vision 3 200T and 500T, a stock that I well know and love when used in 16mm. The material was scanned in AppleProRes422 on an Ursa Diamond in a laboratory in Turin, Italy: Nova Rolfilm. People who were recommended to me and do very good work. The result is very disappointing. The footage is super grainy, looking kind of OK when I'm filming objects but terrible on skies: exploded, saturated, not fluid. I know the problem is neither the camera nor the lens. I have shot excellent bw footage with this camera. The colorist said that my material was not excellent, but well within the normal-to-good range for S8mm. He said I should have worked with reversal film, because Super-8 cameras were never designed and calibrated for negative stock and cannot thus yield good results on negative emulsion. Add to this the fact of working at 200 and 500 ISO, maybe I had a recipe for failure inside my camera. Since the sublime Kodachrome 40 is gone, this technician suggested I should try Fuji reversal stock, which was Fuji's “response” to KR, and with which other customers of the lab have excellent results in terms of grain, “paste” (italian filmmakers use the same word for film grain and spaghetti: pasta), fluidity. He also mentioned that in his experience as colorist, the best S-8mm footage was produced with Nizo cameras. I am now overcoming my disappointment and would like to do some tests with reversal film before moving on with the project. So I was thinking of Fuji Velvia 50 Daylight. Does any of you have a similar experience to mine, to share, and about Fuji reversal stock? Many thanks in advance. Best, Marco -- Sent from my computer marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Call for Entries: Rare Earth
Love the image though Caryn! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:44:14 -0400 From: carynycl...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Call for Entries: Rare Earth Dear Caitlin, Please accept my submission of my most recent botanicollage film, Compost Confidential, for a place in PLUG's program Rare Earth. I've attached a submission form, a synopsis, and a still image from the film. Thank you very much for your consideration. As a Missouri-born experimental filmmaker (who lived for several years as a little kid in Parkville), I'm pleased to learn about your groups' inventive programming in Kansas City. Sincerely, Caryn Cline On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Caitlin Horsmon cait...@plugprojects.com wrote: Hi All,PLUG PROJECTS in Kansas City, MO is accepting entries for its next film and video exhibition FPS: Rare Earth an ongoing series of experimental film, video and multimedia work. No entry fee, postmark deadline June 8th. This installment of FPS expands upon themes in the current Plug exhibition, Rare Earth. Rare Earth features work that borrows materials and figures from the natural world to reevaluate the nature of nature and examine the many landscapes we all inhabit. Considering human mediation into all of the ecologies we encounter, Rare Earth offers viewers new modes of seeing the world around them. Visit www.plugprojects.com for more information about the show. The Screening will take place on Friday June 21, 2013 . PLUG PROJECTS is a curatorial collaboration by five Kansas City artists who share the mission of bringing fresh perspectives and conversation to the local art community. Our goal is to energize artists and the public at large by exhibiting challenging new work, initiating critical dialogue, and expanding connections of artists in Kansas City as part of a wider, national network of artists. Please contact: cait...@plugprojects.com with questions or for more information - themes are broadly interpreted. Entry Form Attached. Looking forward to seeing your work,Caitlin-- www.plugprojects.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Caryn Cline co-producer, Acts of Witnesswww.actsofwitness.com vimeo.com/carynyc ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm BW Release prints
Not sure where you are located but I'm pretty sure Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto could do this. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 16:04:14 -0500 From: ch...@signaltoground.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] 35mm BW Release prints Hi all, Any suggestions of where one could make feature length 35mm BW release prints nowadays? best Chris ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K
Hi Ryder, I have used Frame Discreet for many SD transfers in the past and know fellow filmmakers who have used their HD transfers, I only have good things to say about Frame Discreet and Justin Lovell. But if you like to see samples I am sure they can provide something for you to view they are a very helpful bunce! Good Luck! Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:52:23 -0300 From: ryder.wh...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K Hello all, Has anyone used Frame Discreet in Toronto for their 2K digital transfer, especially for colour super 8? Looks like a decent deal but I can't say that I've seen any work come out of there personally... Thanks, RW ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
