Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Hi there. Some people are to put it politely, very very dumb. I assume the user keys that are going around have been registered under people's real names? At 03:57 PM 26/11/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to throw out a quick question here. As expected, there are quite a few user keys for Q9 floating around as I am only using a name/key registration system. Now, my question is; is it the best way to do things, or should I adopt an Internet unlocking strategy? The product ID/key approach is out of the question as regenerating keys for people can become quite a nightmare, and so the only option left for me is to make it check the registration data online. This of course forces the user to have an active Internet connection at the time of registration, but I think most people do these days. So, should I keep the registration system as it is or change it for all my future products to be Internet based? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
yes i think so On 27 Nov 2009, at 08:35, Stephen wrote: Hi there. Some people are to put it politely, very very dumb. I assume the user keys that are going around have been registered under people's real names? At 03:57 PM 26/11/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to throw out a quick question here. As expected, there are quite a few user keys for Q9 floating around as I am only using a name/key registration system. Now, my question is; is it the best way to do things, or should I adopt an Internet unlocking strategy? The product ID/key approach is out of the question as regenerating keys for people can become quite a nightmare, and so the only option left for me is to make it check the registration data online. This of course forces the user to have an active Internet connection at the time of registration, but I think most people do these days. So, should I keep the registration system as it is or change it for all my future products to be Internet based? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Hi Thomas, Isn't it better though, to make it secure as possible? I mean, you and I know better, but wouldn't it make it easier for friends to share keys? Friends will do anything for each other usually, even if it means being secretive to help another friend. I've seen it in the past. If somebody knows that all they need to do to register is find out somebody's name and key, more people will think they won't need to pay for it. If the key is online or hardware based, at least they can be tracked, and it would be harder, as code cracking techniques would be necessary. Most people wouldn't know how to do that, therefore they are forced to buy it if they want to play it. I would imagine more people would approach friends about keys than they would surfing around on the internet trying to find cracks for hardware based keys. That's just my opinion, but if you feel different, I will change my registration system to suit the needs of my fellow gamers. I am open to discussions about this, since I am still thinking of and attempting to produce new games. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Philip, That is a really tough question. Both as a game player and developer myself I'm faced with this very question. Here is my thoughts on the matter. What it really boils down to is a question of convenience for the customer or better security for your product. As a developer who is interested in seeing customers pay for the time and work I put into a project I feel compelled to use some form of hardware based product ID system or internet product activation. However, as an end user myself, of such product registration systems, I personally hate them. I generally find the registration system, if not flexible and easy to use, is a major deterrent from purchasing the product. I've actually stopped using certain products just because the registration system was too much of a hassle obtaining new keys for all of the time. For example, I often upgrade my computer if and when I have the cash to do so. Since I custom build my desktops it is easy to swap out a motherboard, processor, and memory so one day it might be a 3.0 GHZ system with 1 GB of ram and after I finish performing an upgrade it might be a 3.5 GHZ system with 2 GB of ram. Such upgrades are quite normal for me. However, because a lot of software now uses hardware based registration systems performing an upgrade like that causes me endless frustration and agrivation, because I have to contact every developer, explain to them why my product doesn't work, and ask for new keys. Obviously, this is a massive hassle. Some developers such as BSC Games, GMA Games, etc are pretty friendly about it, know I do this, and are willing to grant me a new key if and when I need them. Some developers, Microsoft to name one big one, tells me I have to purchase a new license for Windows because Windows was designed to be installed on a single computer where the hardware is assumed to be the same without major upgrades. So that naturally effects my desire to keep up to date with upgrades. As a result I've had to make major changes in what software I support, buy, and install on my computers. My desktop runs Linux because it is cheaper, doesn't have some draconian registration system, is easier to maintain, and does just about everything I want it to do. Since I don't upgrade the hardware on my laptop that is the system I install Windows on, plus my games, and have elected to register all of my Windows software on that system. Primary reason is that is the only way to keep from having to e-mail every developer under the sun for a new key anytime I perform a system upgrade on my desktop system. While an internet product activation system isn't that bad still it bars valid users from a clean and simple way to register his/her software. In the end knowing what I know about both the good and bad about registration systems Mysteries of the Ancients uses a user name product key system. That is the product key is tied to the user's user name. It is considered the weakest security system a commercial developer could use, but makes it simple and easy for an honest customer to use. Since I am not primarily writing my games for money, do it more as a side hobby, I tend to use the honors system on such things. I feel customers who really enjoy my work, want to contribute to USA Games for future developments, will pay for the games and legally register them. Those people who lack a conscience or just don't care will pirated it anyway regardless how secure I try to make the registration system. So I tend to try to benefit the customer rather than punishing them for what a few unscrupulous people will do anyway. HTH Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, I just
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
Hi Dark, Reminds me very much of a dectalk comedy about a customer wanting to buy a computer and not knowing what Windows, Word, and various other pieces of software were. I think this is getting slightly off topic though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers Oh but Tom, i've ordered Mota, therefore I as your lord and master here by command you to polish my boots! grin! Rather reminds me of a friend of mine who worked for a while as a tech support assistant for the government m.o.t. service and was regularly phoned by baffled mechanics who, - while perfectly happy fixing cars, couldn't make head nor tale of a computer, much less a government registration system (and with the Uk government I couldn't honestly blame them). He for instance got one call which opend with an angry cornish mechanic (think Hagrid), saying oym gonna take that computerr, oym gonna put it ootside, and oym gonna run it overr with moy vn! on another occasion the conversation went thus: Mechanic: I can't logue in to this thing my friend: well, have you typed your password Mechanic: typed where? My friend: - Well, in the box on screen, just type your password and press enter mechanic: enter? my friend: Get your keyboard Mechanic: My keyboard? are you sure? my friend: yes, just get your keyboard mechanic: okay, but i don't think it would help there then followed an interval of mysteriously ominous clanking noises. Mechanic: well I've got it, what now my friend: (in great suspicion),What exactly have you got there Mechanic: my keyboard, the wooden board I hang my keys on! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Major entombed news!
This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Hi Dark, On line product registration/activation is really the compromise between the two extremes. The developer can have a mysql database that keeps track of the number of times the software has been registered in a given amount of time, and tell the program weather to go ahead and register the product or not. If you have a unregister option in the game you can unregister it which would add one more installation to the server's mysql database. That way if someone is willing to hand out his or her keys they might think twice if that means giving it to a buddy means using up one of their existing installations. This doesn't stop piracy, of course, but it does restrict the number of copies that can be activated at any given time using that key. How I would do it if I were considering an internet based product activation system is when the person purchases the game he or she would recieve two keys with his/her product purchase. They could install the game on two systems such as a desktop/laptop, or they might use one, and keep the other as a backup. If they buy a new computer they can unregister the software on their old computer and reregister it on the new system. If they happen to need more than two keys they can buy additional keys for some nominal fee like $5.00 each. That way if they do start handing them out to friends the developer still makes something off the pirated copies while being fair to his/her customers. dark wrote: It doesn't come up with Hal either that I've noticed, and my computers have been through account crashes, registry issues and all sorts of fun without messing up Hal. Pluss, dolphin give you a free extra registration every six months just in case you do have a problem. I'll say that's another advantage of online registration as opposed from having it on a Cd, when it does need doing, it can be done in seconds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Hi Peter, Well, there is an easy solution for the type of person who does regular reformatting of his/her system, and that is to use imaging software. They can install everything they want, register it, and then make an image of the drive. As long as the image is restored to the same machine without hardware changes whatever the software will work as if it was newly installed. I've done this myself for the primary fact I tend to like to reinstall Windows every six months or so, and hate having to install every blasted piece of software manually again. peter Mahach wrote: first sorry if I repeat my self (I did not read all messages) now no for gods sake no internet regging and compuiter based licensing or any stupid counters! looking at peoplle who take security very seriusly they might format their pc once a month. 3 months and the game goes banging on them for using a legal key... seriusly that'd suck big time! another one. I know a friend that has a laptop from his school which has this program that up on reboot restores the c drive to its original state. he's running games off his u3 drive, so now how would he be able to play the full game? no way if the 3 pc's and a flat line method is used. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Hi Willem, That isn't really how hardware product activation works. The developers of such software know the end user will be plugging in digital cameras, USB sticks, scanners, change printers, and accordingly make allowances for such changes in hardware configuration. As a result they do hardware checks against something they assume a person wouldn't change on his/her own like a processor. Now, I'm the acception to the rule. Even though I am blind I went to tech school, have a fair amount of knowledge in the hardware and software side of computers, so I am the type who would swap out a motherboard, processor, and memory if and when I feel like it because I want a bigger, faster, more powerful machine. That's where hardware activation goes crazy, because it simply was not designed for the hobbiest computer user who can swap out his own mother board and processor at will. They were designed for the store brand computers like the HP, Del, and Compaqs you can pick up at Best Buy or Wal-Mart. Something put together by a manufacturer and assumed to remain with the same general hardware specifications throughout the life time of that computer. Willem wrote: That's hardware activation for you. Plug in a USB stick and you stand a chance of deactivating, for example, rail racer, because it thinks it's a new system. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 /
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator update regarding Thomas Ward
Hi Jaffar, Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. It is nice to be welcomed back in such a manner. Smile jaf...@ecstatico.net wrote: I am so glad that common sense, kineness, understanding and well, let's just say, forgiveness has won out in the end. Nobody is perfect, so welcome thomas, and thanks for your invaluable input, despite whatever it was you commited, lol i forget, but welcome anyway. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Hi, Lol! Paranoia is right. I wouldn't reformat my system every month, but I do reformat every six months or so to make sure my system runs at peak performance if and when possible. Windows is notorious for running great when it is installed fresh, but the more you use it the system performance goes way down after a while. The registry gets clogged up with junk, your temp directories fill up with junk, and sooner or later the operating system sort of just self-destructs from so much use. It has pretty poor resource management all and all. I just ran a registry scan a couple of days ago and it found over 2000 registry errors, all created with in the space of a months time, and corrected them. Doesn't that say how easy Windows can go to Hades in a handbag? dark wrote: Good grief! reformatting your drive every month sounds like someone who has their house keys locked in a box, and the keys to that box locked in yet another box! I know if I was a lock smith and someone who was doing this complained at me for making my keys take too much time to unlock I'd ask what planet they were from! Ditto with registrations. Security is one thing, paranoyer is another! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
I'm not sure Tom, even reformatting every six months seems a bit much to me. Of course, you probably do much heavier performance and more serious things on your pc than I do on mine. i basically just use mine to word process, have net access, listen to music and audio, play games and watch dvd's. Every computer I've had has died of hardware, not software failure. While I've noticed the odd bit of instability, as with the user accounts issue I had a bit ago, I'm not sure i see these often enough to want to go to the trouble of reformatting and starting from scratch. I wouldn't mind using a few cleaning utilities now and again to prevent those sorts of annoying errors, actually if you know any decent free ones please tell me, but reformatting would just seem a bit much for what I do with my Pc. Besides, while my first lovely litle toshiba lasted a solid 7 years before the fan gave out, my last desktop's hard disk actually cronked in august of 2008, just over three years sinse I bought it. While it had a serious! amount of dayly use, (I'm sometimes quite scared by how long my pc is on each day), so I deffinately got my money's worth, I'm not absolutely convinced that 6 harddrive reformattings in that time would've been any more but an irritation. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi, Lol! Paranoia is right. I wouldn't reformat my system every month, but I do reformat every six months or so to make sure my system runs at peak performance if and when possible. Windows is notorious for running great when it is installed fresh, but the more you use it the system performance goes way down after a while. The registry gets clogged up with junk, your temp directories fill up with junk, and sooner or later the operating system sort of just self-destructs from so much use. It has pretty poor resource management all and all. I just ran a registry scan a couple of days ago and it found over 2000 registry errors, all created with in the space of a months time, and corrected them. Doesn't that say how easy Windows can go to Hades in a handbag? dark wrote: Good grief! reformatting your drive every month sounds like someone who has their house keys locked in a box, and the keys to that box locked in yet another box! I know if I was a lock smith and someone who was doing this complained at me for making my keys take too much time to unlock I'd ask what planet they were from! Ditto with registrations. Security is one thing, paranoyer is another! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
Hi Dark, Lol! Please, tell me your joking. That's absolutely hilarious. I've got my keyboard. The wooden board I hang my keys on. That one needs to go down as one of the greatest computer stupidity lines ever. dark wrote: Oh but Tom, i've ordered Mota, therefore I as your lord and master here by command you to polish my boots! grin! Rather reminds me of a friend of mine who worked for a while as a tech support assistant for the government m.o.t. service and was regularly phoned by baffled mechanics who, - while perfectly happy fixing cars, couldn't make head nor tale of a computer, much less a government registration system (and with the Uk government I couldn't honestly blame them). He for instance got one call which opend with an angry cornish mechanic (think Hagrid), saying oym gonna take that computerr, oym gonna put it ootside, and oym gonna run it overr with moy vn! on another occasion the conversation went thus: Mechanic: I can't logue in to this thing my friend: well, have you typed your password Mechanic: typed where? My friend: - Well, in the box on screen, just type your password and press enter mechanic: enter? my friend: Get your keyboard Mechanic: My keyboard? are you sure? my friend: yes, just get your keyboard mechanic: okay, but i don't think it would help there then followed an interval of mysteriously ominous clanking noises. Mechanic: well I've got it, what now my friend: (in great suspicion),What exactly have you got there Mechanic: my keyboard, the wooden board I hang my keys on! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
got the immpretion that this game was a free game. although i do like it their are other games simolar to intomed such as muds that are free to play --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
Grin. I hope it is too, otherwise that has to be the greatest computer neofite in existence! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers Hi Dark, Lol! Please, tell me your joking. That's absolutely hilarious. I've got my keyboard. The wooden board I hang my keys on. That one needs to go down as one of the greatest computer stupidity lines ever. dark wrote: Oh but Tom, i've ordered Mota, therefore I as your lord and master here by command you to polish my boots! grin! Rather reminds me of a friend of mine who worked for a while as a tech support assistant for the government m.o.t. service and was regularly phoned by baffled mechanics who, - while perfectly happy fixing cars, couldn't make head nor tale of a computer, much less a government registration system (and with the Uk government I couldn't honestly blame them). He for instance got one call which opend with an angry cornish mechanic (think Hagrid), saying oym gonna take that computerr, oym gonna put it ootside, and oym gonna run it overr with moy vn! on another occasion the conversation went thus: Mechanic: I can't logue in to this thing my friend: well, have you typed your password Mechanic: typed where? My friend: - Well, in the box on screen, just type your password and press enter mechanic: enter? my friend: Get your keyboard Mechanic: My keyboard? are you sure? my friend: yes, just get your keyboard mechanic: okay, but i don't think it would help there then followed an interval of mysteriously ominous clanking noises. Mechanic: well I've got it, what now my friend: (in great suspicion),What exactly have you got there Mechanic: my keyboard, the wooden board I hang my keys on! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
sadly, and amusingly, it is perfectly, utterly, absolutely and completely true! Now, can somebody tell me, did the install wizard go to Hogworts? ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Obviously this is a personal opinion, but I think 39 usd is a fair price. Afterall, draconis charge the same for pinball extreme, which doesn't have half the lastability of entombed. to get a good idea of this check out the audio games price list at http://www.pcsgames.net/prices.htm obviously though, what a given person thinks is or is not expensive is a very variable thing. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
The problem here is that if you go the hardware-specific route it can sometimes be difficult to get replacement keys in the event of a hardware crash. If you're a developer yourself sometimes you can find yourself deluged with replacement requests, many of which are genuinely needed through no fault of the user. And let's face it, some companies charge full pprice for a key replacement or don't offer them at all. And if a person's willing to give out their key and name to someone else then the one we should really be blaming, if indeed anyone is to blame, is that person, the one callous enough toward the dev to just give out their name and key. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Thomas, Isn't it better though, to make it secure as possible? I mean, you and I know better, but wouldn't it make it easier for friends to share keys? Friends will do anything for each other usually, even if it means being secretive to help another friend. I've seen it in the past. If somebody knows that all they need to do to register is find out somebody's name and key, more people will think they won't need to pay for it. If the key is online or hardware based, at least they can be tracked, and it would be harder, as code cracking techniques would be necessary. Most people wouldn't know how to do that, therefore they are forced to buy it if they want to play it. I would imagine more people would approach friends about keys than they would surfing around on the internet trying to find cracks for hardware based keys. That's just my opinion, but if you feel different, I will change my registration system to suit the needs of my fellow gamers. I am open to discussions about this, since I am still thinking of and attempting to produce new games. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Philip, That is a really tough question. Both as a game player and developer myself I'm faced with this very question. Here is my thoughts on the matter. What it really boils down to is a question of convenience for the customer or better security for your product. As a developer who is interested in seeing customers pay for the time and work I put into a project I feel compelled to use some form of hardware based product ID system or internet product activation. However, as an end user myself, of such product registration systems, I personally hate them. I generally find the registration system, if not flexible and easy to use, is a major deterrent from purchasing the product. I've actually stopped using certain products just because the registration system was too much of a hassle obtaining new keys for all of the time. For example, I often upgrade my computer if and when I have the cash to do so. Since I custom build my desktops it is easy to swap out a motherboard, processor, and memory so one day it might be a 3.0 GHZ system with 1 GB of ram and after I finish performing an upgrade it might be a 3.5 GHZ system with 2 GB of ram. Such upgrades are quite normal for me. However, because a lot of software now uses hardware based registration systems performing an upgrade like that causes me endless frustration and agrivation, because I have to contact every developer, explain to them why my product doesn't work, and ask for new keys. Obviously, this is a massive hassle. Some developers such as BSC Games, GMA Games, etc are pretty friendly about it, know I do this, and are willing to grant me a new key if and when I need them. Some developers, Microsoft to name one big one, tells me I have to purchase a new license for Windows because Windows was designed to be installed on a single computer where the hardware is assumed to be the same without major upgrades. So that naturally effects my desire to keep up to date with upgrades. As a result I've had to make major changes in what software I support, buy, and install on my computers. My desktop runs Linux because it is cheaper, doesn't have some draconian registration system, is easier to maintain, and does just about everything I want it to do. Since I don't upgrade the hardware on my laptop that is the system I install Windows on, plus my games, and have elected to register all of my Windows software on that system. Primary reason is that is the only way to keep from having to e-mail every developer under the sun for a new key anytime I perform a system upgrade on my desktop system. While an internet product activation system isn't that bad still it bars valid users from a
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Fair enough. people are capable of thinking all sorts of random stuff, that's another reason why those who appreciate the work Jason has done and wish him to continue developing need to support Entombed as much as possible. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: ian mcnamara riggs_mcnam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! ho no i am not saying i would not pay my self i am just making the point that people may think like that as i say i like the game and agree it would be worth the money. personely my self i would probly pay for the game and hope that more games like this are created. i do agree with the point that it is better than a mud with the kinds of enamies that you get in it. i will be waiting in atisipation for the full verssion of the game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
True enough Bryan, and from the dev's end, it's a pain to keep pumping them out. Not meant as a cryticism, but I'm stil waiting for replacement desktop keys for jd and superliam. I don't feel it's fair to keep pestering Liam every few weeks sinse he's obviously a very busy fellow, but i've waited a while now to get them. It's not too awful, sinse they're stil installed on my laptop, but as i use my desktop the majority of the time I'd prefer them here. If Lworks had either an internet registration or a key and name registration, I'd have installed them, with no trouble, and wouldn't have to bother liam at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks The problem here is that if you go the hardware-specific route it can sometimes be difficult to get replacement keys in the event of a hardware crash. If you're a developer yourself sometimes you can find yourself deluged with replacement requests, many of which are genuinely needed through no fault of the user. And let's face it, some companies charge full pprice for a key replacement or don't offer them at all. And if a person's willing to give out their key and name to someone else then the one we should really be blaming, if indeed anyone is to blame, is that person, the one callous enough toward the dev to just give out their name and key. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Thomas, Isn't it better though, to make it secure as possible? I mean, you and I know better, but wouldn't it make it easier for friends to share keys? Friends will do anything for each other usually, even if it means being secretive to help another friend. I've seen it in the past. If somebody knows that all they need to do to register is find out somebody's name and key, more people will think they won't need to pay for it. If the key is online or hardware based, at least they can be tracked, and it would be harder, as code cracking techniques would be necessary. Most people wouldn't know how to do that, therefore they are forced to buy it if they want to play it. I would imagine more people would approach friends about keys than they would surfing around on the internet trying to find cracks for hardware based keys. That's just my opinion, but if you feel different, I will change my registration system to suit the needs of my fellow gamers. I am open to discussions about this, since I am still thinking of and attempting to produce new games. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Philip, That is a really tough question. Both as a game player and developer myself I'm faced with this very question. Here is my thoughts on the matter. What it really boils down to is a question of convenience for the customer or better security for your product. As a developer who is interested in seeing customers pay for the time and work I put into a project I feel compelled to use some form of hardware based product ID system or internet product activation. However, as an end user myself, of such product registration systems, I personally hate them. I generally find the registration system, if not flexible and easy to use, is a major deterrent from purchasing the product. I've actually stopped using certain products just because the registration system was too much of a hassle obtaining new keys for all of the time. For example, I often upgrade my computer if and when I have the cash to do so. Since I custom build my desktops it is easy to swap out a motherboard, processor, and memory so one day it might be a 3.0 GHZ system with 1 GB of ram and after I finish performing an upgrade it might be a 3.5 GHZ system with 2 GB of ram. Such upgrades are quite normal for me. However, because a lot of software now uses hardware based registration systems performing an upgrade like that causes me endless frustration and agrivation, because I have to contact every developer, explain to them why my product doesn't work, and ask for new keys. Obviously, this is a massive hassle. Some developers such as BSC Games, GMA Games, etc are pretty friendly about it, know I do this, and are willing to grant me a new key if and when I need them. Some developers, Microsoft to name one big one, tells me I have to purchase a new license for Windows because Windows was designed to be
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Yes! He can count on 40 of my dollars when the time comes LOL! I want to see more titles like this! Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:37 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Better to start by counting weeks since even Jason didn't give an estimate. But I stand by what I said. Jason will definitely be getting forty bucks from me even if I have to wait a bit to buy the game. I'm going to do my part at least to see that this project gets the continuation it definitely deserves. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence
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Hi Brian, True. Either way, one side, either the dev or the end user, is going to have a problem. The user's problem is when a developer takes the hardware road, the developer's problem is when they take the name based key root. If the developer takes a name/key approach, then he is losing out, not only on money, but also losing control of what is rightfully his. Let's face it, it is pure breaking copyright laws, but there is nothing a small hobbiest developer can do about it, and that's the frustration from our point of view. However you have all brought up the rather valid point of, not everyone has an internet connection, so an online registration system is not very accessible, and some people, like Tom, are hobbiest fettlers and repairers, etc, in which case the hardware based key isn't a good solution either, and I know what you mean. In the space of two months I have had to email five or six developers for new keys for their products simply because I reformatted my machine. In that light then, what is the best course of action? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks The problem here is that if you go the hardware-specific route it can sometimes be difficult to get replacement keys in the event of a hardware crash. If you're a developer yourself sometimes you can find yourself deluged with replacement requests, many of which are genuinely needed through no fault of the user. And let's face it, some companies charge full pprice for a key replacement or don't offer them at all. And if a person's willing to give out their key and name to someone else then the one we should really be blaming, if indeed anyone is to blame, is that person, the one callous enough toward the dev to just give out their name and key. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Thomas, Isn't it better though, to make it secure as possible? I mean, you and I know better, but wouldn't it make it easier for friends to share keys? Friends will do anything for each other usually, even if it means being secretive to help another friend. I've seen it in the past. If somebody knows that all they need to do to register is find out somebody's name and key, more people will think they won't need to pay for it. If the key is online or hardware based, at least they can be tracked, and it would be harder, as code cracking techniques would be necessary. Most people wouldn't know how to do that, therefore they are forced to buy it if they want to play it. I would imagine more people would approach friends about keys than they would surfing around on the internet trying to find cracks for hardware based keys. That's just my opinion, but if you feel different, I will change my registration system to suit the needs of my fellow gamers. I am open to discussions about this, since I am still thinking of and attempting to produce new games. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Philip, That is a really tough question. Both as a game player and developer myself I'm faced with this very question. Here is my thoughts on the matter. What it really boils down to is a question of convenience for the customer or better security for your product. As a developer who is interested in seeing customers pay for the time and work I put into a project I feel compelled to use some form of hardware based product ID system or internet product activation. However, as an end user myself, of such product registration systems, I personally hate them. I generally find the registration system, if not flexible and easy to use, is a major deterrent from purchasing the product. I've actually stopped using certain products just because the registration system was too much of a hassle obtaining new keys for all of the time. For example, I often upgrade my computer if and when I have the cash to do so. Since I custom build my desktops it is easy to swap out a motherboard, processor, and memory so one day it might be a 3.0 GHZ system with 1 GB of ram and after I finish performing an upgrade it might be a 3.5 GHZ system with 2 GB of ram. Such upgrades are quite normal for me. However, because a lot of software now uses hardware based registration systems performing an upgrade like that causes me endless frustration and agrivation, because I have to contact every developer, explain
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
And of course if you're an average computer user like me you have to be really careful about messing around in system registry. I've crippled a fair few operating systems in my time without realizing what I was doing. Had to have my dad come over and reinstall the whole OS, which of course usually takes hours. At least it did on my old Gateway, but that only had about 64 meg of ram so that's probably hardly surprising. Games sure didn't run very well on that thing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi, Lol! Paranoia is right. I wouldn't reformat my system every month, but I do reformat every six months or so to make sure my system runs at peak performance if and when possible. Windows is notorious for running great when it is installed fresh, but the more you use it the system performance goes way down after a while. The registry gets clogged up with junk, your temp directories fill up with junk, and sooner or later the operating system sort of just self-destructs from so much use. It has pretty poor resource management all and all. I just ran a registry scan a couple of days ago and it found over 2000 registry errors, all created with in the space of a months time, and corrected them. Doesn't that say how easy Windows can go to Hades in a handbag? dark wrote: Good grief! reformatting your drive every month sounds like someone who has their house keys locked in a box, and the keys to that box locked in yet another box! I know if I was a lock smith and someone who was doing this complained at me for making my keys take too much time to unlock I'd ask what planet they were from! Ditto with registrations. Security is one thing, paranoyer is another! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Free? This has just been the Alpha and Beta versions. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: ian mcnamara riggs_mcnam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! got the immpretion that this game was a free game. although i do like it their are other games simolar to intomed such as muds that are free to play --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Hi Brian, Well, my computer takes about five hours to reinstall Windows, but most of that is formatting the 500GB hard drive. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks And of course if you're an average computer user like me you have to be really careful about messing around in system registry. I've crippled a fair few operating systems in my time without realizing what I was doing. Had to have my dad come over and reinstall the whole OS, which of course usually takes hours. At least it did on my old Gateway, but that only had about 64 meg of ram so that's probably hardly surprising. Games sure didn't run very well on that thing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi, Lol! Paranoia is right. I wouldn't reformat my system every month, but I do reformat every six months or so to make sure my system runs at peak performance if and when possible. Windows is notorious for running great when it is installed fresh, but the more you use it the system performance goes way down after a while. The registry gets clogged up with junk, your temp directories fill up with junk, and sooner or later the operating system sort of just self-destructs from so much use. It has pretty poor resource management all and all. I just ran a registry scan a couple of days ago and it found over 2000 registry errors, all created with in the space of a months time, and corrected them. Doesn't that say how easy Windows can go to Hades in a handbag? dark wrote: Good grief! reformatting your drive every month sounds like someone who has their house keys locked in a box, and the keys to that box locked in yet another box! I know if I was a lock smith and someone who was doing this complained at me for making my keys take too much time to unlock I'd ask what planet they were from! Ditto with registrations. Security is one thing, paranoyer is another! Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
No kidding! I mean two years, folks, two! years! It's one thing, though just as inexcusable, to ask to get Q9 for free but even more so to try to crack Entombed. I can only hope enough people pay for Entombed to make Jasonf eel it worthwhile to continue the series. We lost one audio RPG due to licensing conflicts between developers. Let's not lose another because of a few lousy cheapskates. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
I can hear it now. Installio! Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers sadly, and amusingly, it is perfectly, utterly, absolutely and completely true! Now, can somebody tell me, did the install wizard go to Hogworts? ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
If this brings me even half the enjoyment I got from Nethack, I think forty smackers will be well spent. Counting the hours, too. --Bill - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
That is true. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Obviously this is a personal opinion, but I think 39 usd is a fair price. Afterall, draconis charge the same for pinball extreme, which doesn't have half the lastability of entombed. to get a good idea of this check out the audio games price list at http://www.pcsgames.net/prices.htm obviously though, what a given person thinks is or is not expensive is a very variable thing. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Not to start an argument here, but I haven't had trouble using SAPI voices with JAWS myself. One thing I will say, though, is the way that Freedomscientific handles their registrations is just slightly ridiculous. Before I had an SMA, I actually had to get a key reset every time I wanted to upgrade to the next major release. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Like I said, might be better to start by counting weeks. We don't yet know when Jason anticipates having the game out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! If this brings me even half the enjoyment I got from Nethack, I think forty smackers will be well spent. Counting the hours, too. --Bill - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers
Hmmm...excelent question! I'll look for him there-maybe they'll be an install witch with them. Grin. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Customer Frustrations was Side scrollers sadly, and amusingly, it is perfectly, utterly, absolutely and completely true! Now, can somebody tell me, did the install wizard go to Hogworts? ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Well, he started developement in march of 2008, so two years was rounding up a litle bit. It's stil a long time, and while I know there are audio games which have been in developement for longer, bare in mind this was absolutely constant coding, with new version, new features put into the game etc, no bickering over licenses or shinanigans with changing companies to slow things down. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! No kidding! I mean two years, folks, two! years! It's one thing, though just as inexcusable, to ask to get Q9 for free but even more so to try to crack Entombed. I can only hope enough people pay for Entombed to make Jasonf eel it worthwhile to continue the series. We lost one audio RPG due to licensing conflicts between developers. Let's not lose another because of a few lousy cheapskates. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Well two years is close enough since March will soon be here again. So the last thing we need is for a few lousy cheapskates to crack the game and pass it around once it's released. It is, after all, the first true audio RPG we've had actually come to fruition and I for one want to see more. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Well, he started developement in march of 2008, so two years was rounding up a litle bit. It's stil a long time, and while I know there are audio games which have been in developement for longer, bare in mind this was absolutely constant coding, with new version, new features put into the game etc, no bickering over licenses or shinanigans with changing companies to slow things down. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! No kidding! I mean two years, folks, two! years! It's one thing, though just as inexcusable, to ask to get Q9 for free but even more so to try to crack Entombed. I can only hope enough people pay for Entombed to make Jasonf eel it worthwhile to continue the series. We lost one audio RPG due to licensing conflicts between developers. Let's not lose another because of a few lousy cheapskates. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Entombed was always going to be commercial, bare in mind Jason has been working on it for the last two years nearly! in fact, I think it'd be a great shame indeed if he doesn't get enough good response to this to create more games. Yes, muds are free. muds are also multiplayer, single character, usually lack decent questing or story for specific in game elements, and do not have sound or music. while I've not had mud experience, I'd also imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mud with enemies who are as intelligent, or interesting to fight as the entombed monsters, much less one which allows you so many actions during combat with your various characters. entombed is also randomized, so even if combining and rescuing different character classes doesn't give enough replay value, --- randomly created dungeons and items certainly should! I'll admit, I'm actually slightly narked that when someone spends two solid years writing a high quality audio game, not to mention the first ever! serious audio rpg, the first response we get is oh I can't be bothered to pay for the game, there are plenty of muds! I'll admit I'm heavily biased, sinse I've been very much involved with entombed from the start, and the muds I've tried have been less than satisfactory in terms of quests and in game history. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
I use samnet and system access as my screen reader so when I get a key I just forward it to my samnet email and put it in a product keys folder on the server. I also back things up as well but that's the easiest way I've found to keep things backed up. Mike -- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:33 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Oh I've got my emails auto archiving every 24 hours so it's not backups that's the issue. All keys and codes are stored in their own folder which is stored on an office data file on another drive. So it's definitely not that which is the issue. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 27 November 2009 02:31 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks personally, whenever I get a game, I copy the E-mail directly to a text file, save it in my folder imaginatively called game keys, and that folder, along with just about everything else on my computer's harddrive which I want to hang on to get's stuck onto my handy backup external harddrive. This is a usb drive, which only gets plugged into a computer for purpose of backing stuff up, and usually just sits in the bottom of my draw. I Also copy across all the game setup files for good measure, as well as music, audio, any game information like extra rail racer tracks Interactive fiction games or lw missions which could be useful, not to mention my thesis and related materials (which I'd be in real! trouble if I lost). I even copy across my address book and favourites folders too, sinse finding all those sites again and organizing them into the folder structure I like would be a pest. A lot of these (including the game keys folder), then get coppied onto my laptop too for safe keeping, in fact the only reason not everything does is because my laptop only has a 36 gig drive, and my collection of randomly important stuff has now reached about 40 gigs, which includes about 16 gigs of music and 10 gigs of audio. This was why even when my desktop's drive exploded in 2008, it wasn't such a major deal to replace things. Personally, I'd recommend this backup method to anyone. No having to keep cds or anything else messy, no complications with scanning, just one piece of equipment, which needs plugging in occasionally. In fact the only real problem with backing stuff up is waiting for folders to copy across! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Wow, that's 3 games down the pan... quite an expensive pan! I'm assuming you're smart enough to be doing so already now but definitely try and keep backups of your emails with keys in and whatnot. Having been denied an extra key for a GMA purchase for a pretty daft reason myself I feel your pain, but should think if you'd had a copy of the email where David himself sent you the key he'd have been alright over it. On 11/26/09, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Well I do have a legal copy but David Greenwood can't find me in his records so I just haven't ever bothered buying either game again. They're good and it's sad that I lost them but I just can't be bothered to shell out more money for something that I know I did purchase. That's the real danger with this method of security it really is unfare on the end user quite honestly. I have keys for 2 games that I can no longer play through no fault of my own. Actually I have sod as well but same problem. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: 26 November 2009 19:19 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks I agree. I own many games that use this method of registration, but I didn't email the developers for keys. Among them are all the titles made with the GMA engine, railRacer and Judgment day. Darren Harris wrote: Right. Yes if the devs make it to difficult for people to use their product then they just won't bother in the end. I've avoided certain titles for that reason. As good as lw and tank commander are, it's a pain to put either game on more than 1 system or if there's an issue with 1 of my pc's and it needs formatting and reinstalling then yeah it does become a problem and you just don't bother. So now when any of these blind friendly games come out I tend to look at their methods of registering the game. If I think it's going to be too much of a hastle then I simply don't bother because I don't see why I should have to keep asking and asking for such and such keys all the time, quite frankly I have
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Hi Bryan andd Damien, thanks for this information. Now I have a better idea how to play this bonus game. :-) I am currently working on the ultra parachuter trophy too, thus my question about the points system. Thanks again and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
hi well at least one can try it before buying it in the beta However for 40 dollars a sighted person would get a full FPS 3D type game On 27 Nov 2009, at 19:26, Bryan Peterson wrote: Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers- boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
[Audyssey] entombed
hi if entombed worked on amc that would have been a great introduction to gaming for the vi community on this platform --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
to deal with this problem, I have a program called image for dos and image for windows which I use to back up my machine. The last time I reinstalled windows was well over a year ago. At 03:24 AM 28/11/2009, you wrote: And of course if you're an average computer user like me you have to be really careful about messing around in system registry. I've crippled a fair few operating systems in my time without realizing what I was doing. Had to have my dad come over and reinstall the whole OS, which of course usually takes hours. At least it did on my old Gateway, but that only had about 64 meg of ram so that's probably hardly surprising. Games sure didn't run very well on that thing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi, Lol! Paranoia is right. I wouldn't reformat my system every month, but I do reformat every six months or so to make sure my system runs at peak performance if and when possible. Windows is notorious for running great when it is installed fresh, but the more you use it the system performance goes way down after a while. The registry gets clogged up with junk, your temp directories fill up with junk, and sooner or later the operating system sort of just self-destructs from so much use. It has pretty poor resource management all and all. I just ran a registry scan a couple of days ago and it found over 2000 registry errors, all created with in the space of a months time, and corrected them. Doesn't that say how easy Windows can go to Hades in a handbag? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
True, but this isn't an FPS game. And this is basically only an experiment. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! hi well at least one can try it before buying it in the beta However for 40 dollars a sighted person would get a full FPS 3D type game On 27 Nov 2009, at 19:26, Bryan Peterson wrote: Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers- boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
I guessed I missed this the first time around, but when will version 1.0 of Entombed be available? --Bill - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! hi well at least one can try it before buying it in the beta However for 40 dollars a sighted person would get a full FPS 3D type game On 27 Nov 2009, at 19:26, Bryan Peterson wrote: Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers- boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
About the beta keeping one busy-I haven't yet gotten past level 1! True I haven't playing it much lately, but... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Gamers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 219 an online game forentoomed?
hi i wish if their is an online game fir intoomed i mean if their is an inline sairver where the players can play with each other can make teems and more! please i wish if this thing come true and my friend wish if entoomed be like final fantacy 19 x thannks verry much ahmad. the legend! From: gamers-requ...@audyssey.org Subject: Gamers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 219 To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:44:45 -0500 Send Gamers mailing list submissions to gamers@audyssey.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gamers-requ...@audyssey.org You can reach the person managing the list at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Gamers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bug in entombed 1.6 (Hayri Tulumcu) 2. Re: Q9 and cracks (dark) 3. Re: Q9 and cracks (lirin) 4. Re: Q9 and cracks (Michael Feir) 5. Re: Bug in entombed 1.6 (Ron Schamerhorn) 6. Re: Q9 and cracks (Willem) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:31:04 +0100 From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bug in entombed 1.6 Message-ID: a1134a262baf4542bf4f6595779c1...@hayri29e1e6d68 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original it does not help to start up again Entombed it still takes a minute! Saved games also fills over 300 MB now, so I wish if we could turn autosave from! and - Original Message - From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bug in entombed 1.6 The best thing to do is quit the program entirely, then open it back up and resume if you've been playing a long time. By long time, I mean, it must take hours and hours to get to that level. Don't suffer with saves taking so long, just exit out, restart, and be on your way. I'll optmize its memory and processor usage as I develop it. As it's still in testing, this is less of a priority at the moment. Cheers! Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:32:47 - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Message-ID: e2cd23a16984435fb010d34d198a7...@ownere8ba8066c Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Well that is the way hal's internet registration works, which is fine with me, and if philip wanted to introduce that sort of system with three registrations per customer that wouldn't be an issue. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Dark, True enough. The system I'm working with, at least for now, allows you to set a maximum number of computers. You get a key, whether name or ID based, it activates online, but you can register it up to how many computers you have available. I always allow up to 3. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks My one problem with the vip gameszone's ssolution is it only allows their games to be registered on one machine, quite a problem if you own both a desktop and laptop. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks Hi Hayden, In that case unregistration would be useful. That's how VIP Games Zone approach this problem. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:42 AM
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Hmmm...I don't even think I have those, but Paul's really not my favorite anyway-it's got an interesting way of speaking, to say the least. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks But have you ever tried using the NeoSpeach voices with JAWS? Trust me, it doesn't work. At least it didn't last time I tried it. And apart from a little sluggishness and a few quirks with pronunciation they're my absolute favorite Sapi voices. I use NeoSpeach Paul in a lot of games that use Sapi. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not to start an argument here, but I haven't had trouble using SAPI voices with JAWS myself. One thing I will say, though, is the way that Freedomscientific handles their registrations is just slightly ridiculous. Before I had an SMA, I actually had to get a key reset every time I wanted to upgrade to the next major release. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to
[Audyssey] o.t. The desktop that exploded
Hi Dark, hello all, The question is a little off-topic. But as Dark was talking about a desktop that exploded, I was quite interested how it happened? How it exploded? Regards, Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4643 (20091127) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Try and redownload it from the site. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
He didn't say. So we don't know. THe only answer I can give is it'll be out when it's out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I guessed I missed this the first time around, but when will version 1.0 of Entombed be available? --Bill - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! hi well at least one can try it before buying it in the beta However for 40 dollars a sighted person would get a full FPS 3D type game On 27 Nov 2009, at 19:26, Bryan Peterson wrote: Nor are you the only one. I myself was pleasantly surprised. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Considering the beta alone can keep one busy for months, I don't think that's much at all...in fact, I was expecting at elast 50 bucks for this- and I'd be willing to pay it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers- boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] o.t. The desktop that exploded
Hi. This is probably my fault for not reminding others when the topic of o/t or off topic messages came up earlier this month, but please, no off topic messages on list. If you know enough to post that it's off topic, then you know enough to know it's off topic and that it's not welcome on the list. Have you read the guide lines of late? Many thanks. On 11/27/2009 5:09 PM, Milos Przic wrote: Hi Dark, hello all, The question is a little off-topic. But as Dark was talking about a desktop that exploded, I was quite interested how it happened? How it exploded? Regards, Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4643 (20091127) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
There's two trophies in every bonus game except Weapon Search, which has three. The two Parachute jump trophies are Super Paratrooper and Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
I did. Several times. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Try and redownload it from the site. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
although not accessible right now vmware have an imaging solution which allows you to make an image of your pc then run it as a vm. So say your pc dies or something you can continue working on another system. when you get a new system you can restore the image to that system and boot straight to the new system. At 02:30 a.m. 28/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Peter, Well, there is an easy solution for the type of person who does regular reformatting of his/her system, and that is to use imaging software. They can install everything they want, register it, and then make an image of the drive. As long as the image is restored to the same machine without hardware changes whatever the software will work as if it was newly installed. I've done this myself for the primary fact I tend to like to reinstall Windows every six months or so, and hate having to install every blasted piece of software manually again. peter Mahach wrote: first sorry if I repeat my self (I did not read all messages) now no for gods sake no internet regging and compuiter based licensing or any stupid counters! looking at peoplle who take security very seriusly they might format their pc once a month. 3 months and the game goes banging on them for using a legal key... seriusly that'd suck big time! another one. I know a friend that has a laptop from his school which has this program that up on reboot restores the c drive to its original state. he's running games off his u3 drive, so now how would he be able to play the full game? no way if the 3 pc's and a flat line method is used. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
When was the last time you did it? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks I did. Several times. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Try and redownload it from the site. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Weapon search has three? Darn...I thought I had all of those. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's two trophies in every bonus game except Weapon Search, which has three. The two Parachute jump trophies are Super Paratrooper and Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Within the last few days. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks When was the last time you did it? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks I did. Several times. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Try and redownload it from the site. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
There's It Takes a Thief, which you get by leaving the wearhouse without getting any weapons, Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting twenty or more weapons and then escaping within 105 seconds, and Super Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting thirty or more weapons. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Weapon search has three? Darn...I thought I had all of those. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's two trophies in every bonus game except Weapon Search, which has three. The two Parachute jump trophies are Super Paratrooper and Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. ---
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
hmmm I thought so to, its not going to be in my range us imports and all. Though saying that we are probably getting close to sighted game prices where its 100 pluss 100 is the top or around I have never seen anything over 120 bucks so. At 04:48 a.m. 28/11/2009, you wrote: Even considering the content Jason is putting into the 1.0 release, that is still quite pricy. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news! I am quite literally counting the hours until this release, which brings me to a question, does anybody have any idea of a rough time frame? If it's a way off, I might switch to counting days instead lol. On 11/27/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: This hugely important announcement was made to the entombed list this morning, I think people will very much wish to read it: Original Message - From: To: Jason Allen Entombed Discussion (and other games for the blind) Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Entombed] Entombed Release Information Hi guys, My next implementation of Entombed is going to be actually releasing the game, version 1. This is subject to change, but I'm anticipating the following features: - 5 brand new jobs plus 2 new playable jobs from previous versions that were monster-only bringing the total to 17 playable jobs. - 4 new playable races (at least), with as maybe as possibly 7 more. - Roughly 40 new monsters. - 25 dungeons levels. - New weapons. - Shields. - New spells and abilities. - 20 character levels. - New dungeon branches. - New boss battles. - New secrets. - Over 20 new status effects like sleep, paralysis and more. Plus the usual fixes and tweaks. I'm planning to sell Entombed for $39.99 using a login/key system. If you like (or even love Entombed) it's extremely likely you will also like any future title or sequel. So please don't pirate the game. The unfortunate truth is if I can't rationalize working on games like this (2 years in development), then I'll move on to other projects elsewhere. That said, I really enjoy doing this and I think it's a perfect scenario for many future games to come. Cheers! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Entombed Discussion (Roguelike game for blind and visually impaired) group. To post to this group, send email to entombedg...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to entombedgame+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Can you get sticky fingers after you get super sticky fingers? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's It Takes a Thief, which you get by leaving the wearhouse without getting any weapons, Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting twenty or more weapons and then escaping within 105 seconds, and Super Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting thirty or more weapons. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Weapon search has three? Darn...I thought I had all of those. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's two trophies in every bonus game except Weapon Search, which has three. The two Parachute jump trophies are Super Paratrooper and Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
Odd...I tried it with 7, and it worked, whereas the other one most certainly did not. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Within the last few days. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks When was the last time you did it? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks I did. Several times. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Try and redownload it from the site. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks All I know is I keep getting an error message every time I try to run the game, although I can't for the life of me remember it or i'd have posted it here ages ago. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Actually, Classic Pipe is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Not only that but I don't think Classic Pipe is yet compatible with Windows Vista. That and, while I do enjoy BSC's games they're not worthwhile enough for me to try to get replacement keys every time I get a new computer or have a hardware crash. On the other hand at least BSC offers replacements and doesn't charge for them. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
I did this last time. So yes you can. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Can you get sticky fingers after you get super sticky fingers? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's It Takes a Thief, which you get by leaving the wearhouse without getting any weapons, Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting twenty or more weapons and then escaping within 105 seconds, and Super Sticky Fingers, obtained by collecting thirty or more weapons. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Weapon search has three? Darn...I thought I had all of those. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question There's two trophies in every bonus game except Weapon Search, which has three. The two Parachute jump trophies are Super Paratrooper and Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Ultra parachuter? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, I think the confusion here is that you also are awarded points by how far away you are from each of the rockets when you dodge them. You get more points the further you are away from them. That part at least is kind of tricky since in order to get, say, the Ultra Paratrooper trophy not only do you have to get all the bonus bags but you also have to land on the landing pad with 320 points or more. I've done it before but can't remember exactly how. In fact I'm working on getting that particular trophy now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
S P O I L E R! That's actually a Pulse Shield. While it's on any enemies that reach the base will be instantly destroyed and you won't sustain any damage. It is reusable but requires about twenty or thirty seconds to recharge. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Cool. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question S P O I L E R! That's actually a Pulse Shield. While it's on any enemies that reach the base will be instantly destroyed and you won't sustain any damage. It is reusable but requires about twenty or thirty seconds to recharge. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Hi Hayden, The secret weapon stops any ship from destroying your base while active and backfires the attack on them. It takes about two minutes to recharge. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. ---
Re: [Audyssey] Platform jumping games
Hi, Without a doubt Mysteries of the Ancients marks a new generation of accessible side-scrollers for the blind. Besides the entire aspect of vertical movement, which has been thus far lacking in accessible side-scrollers, I've been loosely modeling it after the ever popular Tomb Raider series of games. Recently I've been reading the walkthroughs for Tomb Raider The Nightmare Stone and Tomb Raider Prophecy, both side-scrollers for the Game Boy, for ideas how the developers ported that series from an FPS type game to a side-scroller. IN addition to new ideas of ways of approaching things I am getting a glimce into how modern side-scrollers depart from the classic games of the 80's and integrate things like save games, random elements, and puzzles into a modern side-scroler. As a result Mysteries of the Ancients will be a very modern game in a side-scroller format. dark wrote: I recall hereing of a set of games on computers like the C64 called spindizy which had those gyroscope style mechanics, but I've not played them myself. In truth Jacob, this is one reason I've been so excited about Tom's work, right from the point he was designing the original Montizuma's revenge remake game, which later for various complicated reasons became Mota. No audio side scroller yet has had any significant vertical movement at all, even compared to the original marrio brothers or Donkey Kong. this is another reason there has been such a large discussion on this list with Tom, about his desire to create a more 80's style side scroller such as castlevania, - but stil with the vertical platforming. Imho, more side scrollers with vertical elements, of any and all levels of complexity would be an incredibly good thing indeed. I'll admit, while Q9's sounds, difficulty and well created engine impressed me greatly, I was rather disappointed that it is a symple left to right game, but of course the possibility is always open for Philip to make other side scrollers in future. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
Just two more questions-firstly about the Super Paratrooper: How, exactly, do you get it? I've gotten it, but if I had to get it again, I'd not be sure how. Secondly, how does one back up the unlockable content you've gotten? I think it might be the .dat file in that folder, but I honestly don't know what file that info is stored in. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien C. Sadler Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:08 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Hayden, The secret weapon stops any ship from destroying your base while active and backfires the attack on them. It takes about two minutes to recharge. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question
S P O I L E R To get Super Paratrooper all you have to do is collect I believe six bonus bags. You don't even have to land safely on the landing pad. I didn't and I still got it. Secondly I don't know if you can back up unlockable content since if I'm not mistaken the .dat files are tied to the specific product and computer ID as the unlock code. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Just two more questions-firstly about the Super Paratrooper: How, exactly, do you get it? I've gotten it, but if I had to get it again, I'd not be sure how. Secondly, how does one back up the unlockable content you've gotten? I think it might be the .dat file in that folder, but I honestly don't know what file that info is stored in. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien C. Sadler Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:08 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Hayden, The secret weapon stops any ship from destroying your base while active and backfires the attack on them. It takes about two minutes to recharge. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Got those-and I just unlocked the secret weapon. How does the thing work? I pressed enter and it powered up, but I have not a clue as to how it worked, Then, it powers down, and I can't get it to power up again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I named them in my last post about that. It Takes a THief, Sticky Fingers and Super Sticky Fingers. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question I don't know if this is giving too much away, but what are the names of the three weapon search trophies? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question That is right. And you need at least 317 points to get Ultra Paratrooper. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi Sarah, If my memory serves me correctly they are calculated as to how far you are away from the rockets when they pass. The further away, the higher the point. I'm not certain though. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question Hi, I have a question about the parachute jump bonus game in Judgment Day. To me it seems that the points given for completing the game successfully are totally random. Sometimes I get around 250, sometines about 290 points and I simply don't know why. I almost always manage to get all the supply bags and land on the landing pad. Can somebody tell me how the points in this game are calculated? What can I do to get more points? Thanks in advance for any help and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
Hi Bill, It's the new game. You can get it from www.blastbay.comm. HTH. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
www.blastbay.com Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other
[Audyssey] desktop explosion was: o.t. The desktop that exploded
Well, it all began on one fine and sunny morning, when I recieved an E-mail from king pixifus lord of pixies to attend his royal banquit. I've been a long standing member fof the royal society for the prevention of cruelty to dragons, - and I'd met his pixosity at one of our meetings, - we'd actually had an interesting chat about how to cure scale shedding of the American blue princess muncher breed of dragon. I phoned my local magic carpet service to order one to the pixy king's palace, however they were absolutely and totally late. they claime this was because of long standing tale backs in the upper atmosphere, - but I just think ginis are lazy gits by nature! so I walked in late, right in the middle of the pixy king's daughter singing a rather pretty song about some goblins she'd enchanted. It completely put her off her step, and while I tried to explain, she was very put out, so much so she conjured a gremlin assassin and sent it after me. I was able to convince her that it had been a mistake by undertaking a long and boring quest involving three drunken elves,a mysterious guarden, some magic apples, a small cactus and a bottle of washing up liquid which I'll tell you about some other time, but sinse it took me such a long time to sort all this out the gremlins bombed my flat in my absense, and so my desktop exploded. I got a full appology from the pixies along with a huge bag of pixy gold, which I used to buy the desktop I've got now, and these days I use wrent a witch when I need transport, brooms are slower, but witches are more reliable. Btw, actually exploded is just a bit of exaggeration on my part, my harddrive just physically stopped working, and was no longer able to load, however I much prefer the above story, far more fun! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] desktop explosion was: o.t. The desktop that exploded
Grin. Very. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] desktop explosion was: o.t. The desktop that exploded Well, it all began on one fine and sunny morning, when I recieved an E-mail from king pixifus lord of pixies to attend his royal banquit. I've been a long standing member fof the royal society for the prevention of cruelty to dragons, - and I'd met his pixosity at one of our meetings, - we'd actually had an interesting chat about how to cure scale shedding of the American blue princess muncher breed of dragon. I phoned my local magic carpet service to order one to the pixy king's palace, however they were absolutely and totally late. they claime this was because of long standing tale backs in the upper atmosphere, - but I just think ginis are lazy gits by nature! so I walked in late, right in the middle of the pixy king's daughter singing a rather pretty song about some goblins she'd enchanted. It completely put her off her step, and while I tried to explain, she was very put out, so much so she conjured a gremlin assassin and sent it after me. I was able to convince her that it had been a mistake by undertaking a long and boring quest involving three drunken elves,a mysterious guarden, some magic apples, a small cactus and a bottle of washing up liquid which I'll tell you about some other time, but sinse it took me such a long time to sort all this out the gremlins bombed my flat in my absense, and so my desktop exploded. I got a full appology from the pixies along with a huge bag of pixy gold, which I used to buy the desktop I've got now, and these days I use wrent a witch when I need transport, brooms are slower, but witches are more reliable. Btw, actually exploded is just a bit of exaggeration on my part, my harddrive just physically stopped working, and was no longer able to load, however I much prefer the above story, far more fun! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] desktop explosion was: o.t. The desktop that exploded
hmm dark you have an interesting life grin I had a powerpack explode once, big boom I heard it felt wind pass my face then the stench! Well, it all began on one fine and sunny morning, when I recieved an E-mail from king pixifus lord of pixies to attend his royal banquit. I've been a long standing member fof the royal society for the prevention of cruelty to dragons, - and I'd met his pixosity at one of our meetings, - we'd actually had an interesting chat about how to cure scale shedding of the American blue princess muncher breed of dragon. I phoned my local magic carpet service to order one to the pixy king's palace, however they were absolutely and totally late. they claime this was because of long standing tale backs in the upper atmosphere, - but I just think ginis are lazy gits by nature! so I walked in late, right in the middle of the pixy king's daughter singing a rather pretty song about some goblins she'd enchanted. It completely put her off her step, and while I tried to explain, she was very put out, so much so she conjured a gremlin assassin and sent it after me. I was able to convince her that it had been a mistake by undertaking a long and boring quest involving three drunken elves,a mysterious guarden, some magic apples, a small cactus and a bottle of washing up liquid which I'll tell you about some other time, but sinse it took me such a long time to sort all this out the gremlins bombed my flat in my absense, and so my desktop exploded. I got a full appology from the pixies along with a huge bag of pixy gold, which I used to buy the desktop I've got now, and these days I use wrent a witch when I need transport, brooms are slower, but witches are more reliable. Btw, actually exploded is just a bit of exaggeration on my part, my harddrive just physically stopped working, and was no longer able to load, however I much prefer the above story, far more fun! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] CE Mining Drones
Hi all, Even though I've just joined a guild and stuff. I'm wondering what level I have to be to get the cheapest mining drone available? I actually forgot how to mine since it's a while I haven't been playing. Just finished the training missions yesterday. And I got a mission that required me to get 30 Ore, but what I do remember about mining is that there was various clicking and most of the time it wouldn't mine anything. So I had to exit the screen, go back into it and hit collect all or whatever the button is, forgot lol. Which is why I want a Mining Drone to do it for me. Just reached level 6. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
Muds aren't similar to Entombed at all, Ian. Muds aren't random. On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:36 AM, ian mcnamara wrote: got the immpretion that this game was a free game. although i do like it their are other games simolar to intomed such as muds that are free to play --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] CE Mining Drones
Hi Orin. Mining and combat looting is a similar process. There are three buttons each labled collect all, which will collecting some ore (in combat looting they collect loot). Once you've pressed all three buttons, you've got everything, and have to run another scan, ie, exit the mining screen and click on your mining laser again. If you physically read the columns next to the three collect all buttons you'll see how much mining ore or loot they've got, and when they all three read zero, you've got everything there is to be got. As to mining drones, I believe you need to be level 10, but they are rather expensive unless you buy some of the player made models from the player markit. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: [Audyssey] CE Mining Drones Hi all, Even though I've just joined a guild and stuff. I'm wondering what level I have to be to get the cheapest mining drone available? I actually forgot how to mine since it's a while I haven't been playing. Just finished the training missions yesterday. And I got a mission that required me to get 30 Ore, but what I do remember about mining is that there was various clicking and most of the time it wouldn't mine anything. So I had to exit the screen, go back into it and hit collect all or whatever the button is, forgot lol. Which is why I want a Mining Drone to do it for me. Just reached level 6. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] CE Mining Drones
hmmm maybe we can help eachother I am low on cash and after using the player markets have enough for an extracter I think. The player markets in sinkport will do you for some good stuff if you know what you want and it can be cheaper than what you need. however if you want to look round im me at login crashmaster on the game. if not look me up I am currently currently stationed in the kelsy system at sinkport. if I am not there I will be in the farpoint or feres systems if there most likely on new joruselim. If not there then I try to hit descart to pick things on tagons tribute. or I am missioning. All I can say is don't be a pirate renigade or something or I may just have to kill you, i need the cash. At 05:34 p.m. 28/11/2009, you wrote: Hi all, Even though I've just joined a guild and stuff. I'm wondering what level I have to be to get the cheapest mining drone available? I actually forgot how to mine since it's a while I haven't been playing. Just finished the training missions yesterday. And I got a mission that required me to get 30 Ore, but what I do remember about mining is that there was various clicking and most of the time it wouldn't mine anything. So I had to exit the screen, go back into it and hit collect all or whatever the button is, forgot lol. Which is why I want a Mining Drone to do it for me. Just reached level 6. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Major entombed news!
they are still multiplayer and have more to do than just walk round a maize killing monsters On 28 Nov 2009, at 04:35, Orin wrote: Muds aren't similar to Entombed at all, Ian. Muds aren't random. On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:36 AM, ian mcnamara wrote: got the immpretion that this game was a free game. although i do like it their are other games simolar to intomed such as muds that are free to play --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
