Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon
Hi Dark, I think I may have found a bug, or maybe I just don't know how to do something. I f I pick up a piece with spacebar, then realize I don't want to move it, I can put it back where it was, but it seems to take one of my dice rolls. I also think it can let me move backward. I'll check on both of those to see if I was merely imagining things, though. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon the difficulty does increase. My only real problem with the game, and it's not really a problem, is that after choosing starting colours at the start of a match, your pretty much stuck with that colour however many games you play. For variety I'd rather like to see it alternate myself, or perhaps there be a colour choice after each match. This is however a miner issue and I believe Manu will fix it at some point. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon Hi Dark, From what I've seen, it looks to be a good game. I'll grab a copy today. I'm looking forward to trying it on difficult. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:48 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon Hi. Firstly, yes, I have often found players online, especially at times in the evening, but obviously the more people perchice the game, the more online players there will be. As to the other settings, most distinctly! they are harder. hard I can beat sometimes, but expert is really quite difficult, and I haven't yet tried the various alternative modes. In general, pontes backgammon is one of the best put together traditional games I've seen, with lots of features like background ambience, music etc, not to mention laguage packs and even the chance to play with the mouse, and I'd encourage nyone to try it, this one really! impressed me. Beware the grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon
Hi, This has been under development for a while. Before I purchase it, I have a few questions. Are you likely to find many other players on-line? At this point, without registering you can only complete a game on easy. Are the settings for the other games actually harder, more challenging to play? Any known, nasty bugs that I should be aware of? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon
Hi Dark, From what I've seen, it looks to be a good game. I'll grab a copy today. I'm looking forward to trying it on difficult. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:48 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon Hi. Firstly, yes, I have often found players online, especially at times in the evening, but obviously the more people perchice the game, the more online players there will be. As to the other settings, most distinctly! they are harder. hard I can beat sometimes, but expert is really quite difficult, and I haven't yet tried the various alternative modes. In general, pontes backgammon is one of the best put together traditional games I've seen, with lots of features like background ambience, music etc, not to mention laguage packs and even the chance to play with the mouse, and I'd encourage nyone to try it, this one really! impressed me. Beware the grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testers with Braille displays.
Hi Nick, I for one am looking forward to seeing what you can put together. I love the idea of a Braille tetris. As for folks like the one below, I'd try to ignore them. Some people just need to rattle cages. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Nick Adamson Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:32 AM To: Trouble Cc: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testers with Braille displays. And that sort of comment is why I stopped wanting to write software in my spare time. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Aug 2012, at 15:24, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Is this going to be like the flight sim you dropped, because you was done with school? or is this one for real? At 03:45 PM 8/2/2012, you wrote: Hi All. My Name is Nick Adamson. Some of you may remember me from about 8 years ago on the old blind gamers list. I'm a blind software engineer who's been out of touch with the blind gaming community for ages but I'm back and after some software testers for a new game I'm working on. For quite some time I've been wondering if it would be possible to write a Tetris like game but played on a Braille display. A month or so ago I stopped thinking about it and Started coding Dotris. This is a windows based game that I'm working on in the little spare time I've got. So if you've tested software before and enjoyed the opportunity to shape the direction of the game or have never done game testing but would like to give it a go then I want to here from you. For now I'm looking for a smallish group of people, You must have a Braille display of at leased 12 characters, a windows XP PC or better, confidence in using the computer and a couple of hours of spare time. If you want to get involved then please send me details of which make model and size Braille display you have and which version of windows and screen reader your using along with your email address. Please send the details to me using the contact us link at www.ndadamson.com. I want to keep the list of testers relatively small and manageable but still test on the widest range of software and hardware possible. this means I may not ask everyone I here from this time. I'm also planning to release the game as donation-ware. The idea is that, once complete, the software can be downloaded at no charge but the user will be strongly encouraged to make a donation of what ever they think the game is worth to a charity I'm going to support. I've not yet decided which charity but am looking in to those that promote the learning and use of Braille. with this in mind there isn't going to be any payment for testers made available, just my gratitude, credits in the documentation and the opportunity to work on a pretty unique game. I've not been around for ages, are there many games that use a Braille display as the main feedback method? Thanks for your time. Nick. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testers with Braille displays.
Hi Nick, I would be happy to help test for you, as time permits. I have Braille displays at home and at work, and I read Braille daily, for programming, and for both personal and professional reading. Unlike others, I find Braille to be of daily value, and generally prefer it over speech for things like programming, proofreading, and for nonfiction reading. I often lament that games don't come with Braille support. Although I tend to play card games, even those often don't have Braille support, and I get very tired of synthesized speech after a while. Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Nick Adamson Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:01 PM To: Thomas Ward Cc: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testers with Braille displays. Hi Thomas. I understand that most of us don't have access to a braille display but some do and most audio games dont enable death blind players to get involved. Also I'm not using the display to show braille in its normal format, I'm using the display more like a screen with moving shapes and representations of they playing area. The reason I asked if braille displays have been used in accessible games before is I wanted to see weather Dotris is going to be as unique as I think it is going to be. I'm very aware that if I was trying to make any money out of this restricting my user base to those that have access to a braille display wouldn't be a good idea but this is more about the programming challenge and the chance to do something a little bit unusual as well as raising a bit of money for charity. I'm also trying in my own small way to encourage the use of braille, a skill I worry that a lot of blind people, including myself at one point in my life, think to be a completely antiquated and pointless skill when so many things now speak to us. A view I now disagree with. thanks Nick Sent from my iPhone On 5 Aug 2012, at 04:38, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nick, Most of the accessible games out there use speech and/or audio for feedback. The reason is that braille displays are extremely expensive,and most blind computer users don't own one. The other reason is that there has been a huge migration from text based gaming to real time audio gaming and in a lot of cases the action moves too fast to review the information via braille. Speech feedback is much much quicker in an arcade, FPS, or side-scroller so most accessible game developers don't bother with braille display support. Cheers! On 8/2/12, Nick Adamson n...@ndadamson.com wrote: Hi All. My Name is Nick Adamson. Some of you may remember me from about 8 years ago on the old blind gamers list. I'm a blind software engineer who's been out of touch with the blind gaming community for ages but I'm back and after some software testers for a new game I'm working on. For quite some time I've been wondering if it would be possible to write a Tetris like game but played on a Braille display. A month or so ago I stopped thinking about it and Started coding Dotris. This is a windows based game that I'm working on in the little spare time I've got. So if you've tested software before and enjoyed the opportunity to shape the direction of the game or have never done game testing but would like to give it a go then I want to here from you. For now I'm looking for a smallish group of people, You must have a Braille display of at leased 12 characters, a windows XP PC or better, confidence in using the computer and a couple of hours of spare time. If you want to get involved then please send me details of which make model and size Braille display you have and which version of windows and screen reader your using along with your email address. Please send the details to me using the contact us link at www.ndadamson.com. I want to keep the list of testers relatively small and manageable but still test on the widest range of software and hardware possible. this means I may not ask everyone I here from this time. I'm also planning to release the game as donation-ware. The idea is that, once complete, the software can be downloaded at no charge but the user will be strongly encouraged to make a donation of what ever they think the game is worth to a charity I'm going to support. I've not yet decided which charity but am looking in to those that promote the learning and use of Braille. with this in mind there isn't going to be any payment for testers made available, just my gratitude, credits in the documentation and the opportunity to work on a pretty unique game. I've not been around for ages, are there many games that use a Braille display as the main feedback method? Thanks for your time. Nick. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to
Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testerswith Braille displays.
As for cheaper than a small car, work purchased a 40-cell Braille display for me for $2700. That's cheaper than most small cars I've seen, unless you want a clunker. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testerswith Braille displays. Hi Ryan, Can you send one of those displays over here? :D. I'm afraid I disagree on the rehab front, sinse in the Uk it depends basically on the generosity of the individual counsel during time in education, and then access to work will only buy you things that access your work directly 9assuming your in work). so I'm afraid I disagree that there are more out there to be supported. Until they become A, cheaper than buying a small car, and B, able to show more information, I'm not convinced on their value for gaming, indeed I'm becoming rather disolussioned with braille as a writing medium full stop, and that from someone who has read braille sinse he was five. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testerswith Braille displays. Hi Nick, Thankfully you're not developing a side scroller, arcade game, or FPS title, so you don't have to worry about that. Just because very little use has been made of Braille displays in the past 8 years doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a go. I would venture a guess that there are actually quite a few Braille displays out there. Rehab agencies purchase them for a lot of people here in the states, and some countries overseas--especially in Europe--will actually give free Braille displays to blind people. My wife and I own two between the two of us, and I have access to four more of them at work. Audio Tetris has been tried; it didn't work very well. Music audio Tetris has been tried; it didn't work very well either. The spatial implications of a tactile Tetris would be phenomenal to work with. I think you have a winner of an idea here. Good luck to you in your efforts. All the best, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:38 PM To: Nick Adamson; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] N A Soft is back and I'm looking for some testers with Braille displays. Hi Nick, Most of the accessible games out there use speech and/or audio for feedback. The reason is that braille displays are extremely expensive,and most blind computer users don't own one. The other reason is that there has been a huge migration from text based gaming to real time audio gaming and in a lot of cases the action moves too fast to review the information via braille. Speech feedback is much much quicker in an arcade, FPS, or side-scroller so most accessible game developers don't bother with braille display support. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Braille Dice
Hi, A friend just forwarded me a link to a Kickstarter project for Braille dice. Oh, we've long been able to read 6-sided dice, but these are for many of the dice traditionally used in role-playing games: D4, D6, D8, D10, D12, D20 and D30. They're trying to raise $11,000 to get this underway. Please see: http://kck.st/LsCQZd --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Seeking Information on MUDs
Hi, For years, I played on AmberMUSH and a few Pern MUSHes. Then real life took over and I disappeared from the MUSH scene for a while. I'm not sure there are really MUSHes left. Text-based role-playing in that fashion seems to have been replaced by World of Warcraft and other MMORPGs. I know there are still some MUDs out there, but I've always had the impression that these were more combat-oriented games, with a lot less role-playing going on. I have a few questions for those willing to help: Can you recommend good MUDs? Are there any that have a good balance between role-playing and combat? How many users does the typical MUD have at one time? Are there opportunities for building and coding as there were on the MUSH? For combat themed MUDs, is speed a high priority? If so, what is the best client for us to achieve that as blind players? I use JAWS 13, Eloquence and a Braille display .When I was MUSHing, I used SimpleMU, which worked well. I was able to code it to do some cool things, and tinker with JAWS to make it read well. I think I saw some references to VIPMud. Is it better for Mudding? Are there MUD clients that will work on the iPhone, and what are their pluses and minuses? If I play on the iPhone, I will certainly want to use the Braille display for input. Is this likely to pose a problem? That's probably enough to get started. Thanks in advance for your help. Nancy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books
Hi Dark, I've had good luck with Steve Jackson Games, Atlas Games, Pinnacle Entertainment Group, Hogshead Publishing (I think they're a UK group), Murach Books (they're the computer programming folks) and other small press sorts that I can't think of just now. WoTC does ignore us, that's true. Nothing to be done about that except get their books in other ways. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi nancy. Wow! which publishers are these? In the past, all the publishers I've contacted have either utterly ignored me, or setn me a short refusal like wizards of the coast, which is one reason I'm now so sure that they are scumbags! :D. Perhaps it would be good to know which these people are if they provide that sort of service. Beware the grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books
Hi Thomas, I have a suggestion for you. Have you contacted the publisher of these Star Wars books? In the past, I have made arrangements with publishers of both role-playing game books and computer programming books. In cases where they didn't normally sell electronic copies of their books, they agreed to sell me a copy of the printed book at its normal price. For that price, they would throw in an electronic copy as well. Some publishers have then asked me to sign NDA agreements, essentially certifying that I would not share the electronic materials, and I'm fine with that. And if I'm not interested in the printed book, I can usually find someone local to kick in some money toward the purchase, and they get the printed book and I get the electronic copy. Not all publishers agree to such an idea. But most have, and most have been quite courteous about it. However, if I agree not to share, I will not share, because I want them to be willing to make such arrangements for future purchases. After all, sighted folks would pay for the book, and if I'm going to get a copy I can read, I have no problem paying as well. Just a suggestion of something that has worked for me with great success! Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books Hi Al, I'm talking about the newer d20 Star Wars source books and campaign guides. As you might already know the d20 campaign books and source guides covers the rebel era, the clone wars era, and the New Jedi Order era. I've even heard they are working on releasing a new expansion set for the Old Republic era of books and games. Since I'd like to work with the latest campaign books I'm not bothering with the old West End stuff. Cheers! On 6/14/12, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: I was just wondering which star wars rules you were talking about. The old west end games or the d20 star wars. Just out of curiosity and not much else. I knowt he west end books are no longer in print so I am not sure if that matters or not. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Quentin, I believe you can find the rules for Chinese official mahjong at www.ninedragons.com.\/mahjong/oir.html If you do develop this, and want a beta tester, just let me know. I'd be happy to help. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of QuentinC Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:27 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hello all, As I read it, mahjong would be a nice candidate game for the playroom. However, I don't know it at all. From what I remember, mahjong was only a solitaire where you had to match tiles to reveal other ones and finally clear the all field. I didn't know that it was a true game. If someone can point me to detailled rules and a complete list of tile types, colors, numbers, etc. found in a ordinary deck with the number of each, I might be able to try something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Tootle Tiles? Wow. It sounds like a kid's game. Smile Actually, mahjong is usually a four player game. And there are many variations, from Chinese official to American to Japanese riichi. One of the complexities in many versions is the number of fan, or ways to score points. In Chinese official there are 81 different ways. I did find a mahjong dictionary in the iPhone app store that is very readable. It gives you information on how to achieve each of these 81 scoring options. You can also score your hand with it. I may contact the author to ask that he make that part accessible as well. But it isn't the game itself, but more a tool for those playing the game. I'd like to be able to play against the computer or against human opponents as others do. Thanks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:12 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Tom. Fair enough. I know the game was based on mahjong, but with the sort of childish presentation I wasn't sure how much of the rules actually translated, sinse for a start I believe Mahjong is a two player game, and it's not really as if the aph games are aimed at serious gamers. Also, on every machine I've tried to run the American printing house games on they've crashed on me. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, Actually, as I recall Tootle Tiles from APH is basically the same concept as Mahjong. So there is one example of an accessible Mahjong game that I know of. :D Cheers! On 6/1/2012 3:49 PM, dark wrote: Hi Nancy. I'm afraid there is no accessible mahjong that I have heard of, and only one version of draughts, (or checkers as it's known in the states), included on I believe volume 4 of the games from www.azabat.co.ukk, though these are fairly expensive, and (in my own opinion), a little too simplistic for the price unfortunately, but they do have a demo cd available for you to try for yourself, which I'm sure they wouldn't mind posting outside the uk. Still, your welcome to check them out. It's actually a shame Ian humphries never did a draughts/checkers game, or mahjong, especially sinse I have no idea how to play mahjong but would be interested to learn :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which I don't want. I don't see any way for a person to play that. Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Dark, I suspect that they probably didn't even try. The more I think about it, the likelier it seems that Tootle Tiles is probably just another of the mahjong tile matching games, which isn't the same thing. Please Note: That's just my guess. I haven't checked out the game to know, it's just one of those suspicions I have. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi. Sounds fascinating, and I really doubt toodle tiles got even a quarter of those rules in, then again, aph weren'texactly known for complex games, or games that really were aimed at adults (indeed even their documentation is to a sighted teacher or care assistant of a blind person). Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Tootle Tiles? Wow. It sounds like a kid's game. Smile Actually, mahjong is usually a four player game. And there are many variations, from Chinese official to American to Japanese riichi. One of the complexities in many versions is the number of fan, or ways to score points. In Chinese official there are 81 different ways. I did find a mahjong dictionary in the iPhone app store that is very readable. It gives you information on how to achieve each of these 81 scoring options. You can also score your hand with it. I may contact the author to ask that he make that part accessible as well. But it isn't the game itself, but more a tool for those playing the game. I'd like to be able to play against the computer or against human opponents as others do. Thanks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:12 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Tom. Fair enough. I know the game was based on mahjong, but with the sort of childish presentation I wasn't sure how much of the rules actually translated, sinse for a start I believe Mahjong is a two player game, and it's not really as if the aph games are aimed at serious gamers. Also, on every machine I've tried to run the American printing house games on they've crashed on me. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, Actually, as I recall Tootle Tiles from APH is basically the same concept as Mahjong. So there is one example of an accessible Mahjong game that I know of. :D Cheers! On 6/1/2012 3:49 PM, dark wrote: Hi Nancy. I'm afraid there is no accessible mahjong that I have heard of, and only one version of draughts, (or checkers as it's known in the states), included on I believe volume 4 of the games from www.azabat.co.ukk, though these are fairly expensive, and (in my own opinion), a little too simplistic for the price unfortunately, but they do have a demo cd available for you to try for yourself, which I'm sure they wouldn't mind posting outside the uk. Still, your welcome to check them out. It's actually a shame Ian humphries never did a draughts/checkers game, or mahjong, especially sinse I have no idea how to play mahjong but would be interested to learn :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
LOL. The core technique is similar. On your turn, you draw a tile from the wall, which is similar to the face down draw pile for a game of rummy. You then look at it and see if it fits into the pattern you're trying to create with your current tiles. If it does, keep it, otherwise discard it, unless you think someone else is collecting that tile, then discard something else. In rummy, you can also normally draw the top card from the discard pile. In mahjong, you can only draw the last tile discarded if it does one of a few things: would create a three of a kind or four of a kind for you, or create a chow (sequence of three), but only if it was discarded by the player who drew just before you, and not either of the other two players. In rummy, you normally form either three or four of a kind, or sequences. In mahjong, you do much of this, too, but there are 81 ways to score points, including hands that are composed entirely of green tiles, or a hand of seven pairs, etc. Does this help, or make it clear as mud? Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong You confuse me with this: Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. So, does it play like Rummy? or not. That's an oxymoronic statement like It's the same, but different. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which I don't want. I don't see any way for a person to play that. Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Dark, What is also ironic is that mahjong is not an ancient game. This misconception isn't spread just by APH, though; we see it in much of the literature of mahjong. It actually came into being in the 1850's in China, and was brought to the U.S. in about 1910. There's actually a good book from Bookshare on the game. It's written by Tom Sloper, and is called The Red Dragon and the West Wind, I believe. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi. You mentioned a game called Mahjong solitare. Being a matching game for a single player, I bet toodle tiles is based on the rules of that, rather than the rules of actual mahjong, though it's a little bad that aph claime! it to be based on the ancient chinese game in their documentation. The real problem I think, is none of the programmers who have made really good computer adaptations of other card, board, or puzzle games have experience with Mahjong, it being a much less popular game in the west, so couldn't write an adaptation for the computer, indeed I seem to remember in the faq for the spoonbill games Ian humphries saying that he didn't have enough knolidge of Mahjong to make a Bg version. there are of course plenty of inaccessible ones, indeed I was quite stunned when i viewed the full! list of snes games including Japanese only releases, and found just how many mahjong games were released for the console, but that doesn't really help any visually impared players who want to either play, or learn the game. This is a shame. I learned Euchre and spades from the blind adrenaline versions, and really enjoy eucher, and I learnt backgammon from the pontes backgammon game and have just bought a tactile board to play with friends, so a computerized accessible Mahjong would also be a nice way to introduce the game to people like myself who hadn't played it before but might well enjoy it. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Charles, Yes, more complicated than pinochle, but oh, I'd love an accessible pinochle game that I could play against others. That would be awesome. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Well, although mud is more clear at a first going over, this does sound interesting. The first thought is 81 ways to score? Sheesh! Much more complicated than pinochle! (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong LOL. The core technique is similar. On your turn, you draw a tile from the wall, which is similar to the face down draw pile for a game of rummy. You then look at it and see if it fits into the pattern you're trying to create with your current tiles. If it does, keep it, otherwise discard it, unless you think someone else is collecting that tile, then discard something else. In rummy, you can also normally draw the top card from the discard pile. In mahjong, you can only draw the last tile discarded if it does one of a few things: would create a three of a kind or four of a kind for you, or create a chow (sequence of three), but only if it was discarded by the player who drew just before you, and not either of the other two players. In rummy, you normally form either three or four of a kind, or sequences. In mahjong, you do much of this, too, but there are 81 ways to score points, including hands that are composed entirely of green tiles, or a hand of seven pairs, etc. Does this help, or make it clear as mud? Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong You confuse me with this: Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. So, does it play like Rummy? or not. That's an oxymoronic statement like It's the same, but different. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which I don't want. I don't see any way for a person to play that. Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Dark, You are exactly right. When I teach a new game to someone, I begin by trying to compare it to something they know. If they're familiar with rummy, then it's a bit less overwhelming to learn mahjong, because you have points of familiarity. So it isn't really an oxymoron, because I think of those as two opposing concepts: military and intelligence always being the first thing to come to mind. So I was just trying to start with a familiar concept, and then if I were going to teach someone the game, we'd start to explore how mahjong differed from rummy. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong It's not an oxymoron, accept that it is! :D. I think however what was meant here is that Mahjong follows a similar basic structure to rummy in that players take turns exchanging or disguarding cards (tyles), in order to get some predetermined goal in their hand, which is also the basic structure of 31's (also called stop the bus), and some similar games. I suspect though in Mahjong, the method by which the exchange and disgarding happens, the targit scoring hands and indeed how they are scored are rather different from those in rummy. I could be wrong, I just remember hereing somewhere that mahjong did involve exchange, disgard and scoring type gameplay. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong You confuse me with this: Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. So, does it play like Rummy? or not. That's an oxymoronic statement like It's the same, but different. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which I don't want. I don't see any way for a person to play that. Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Thomas, I'd be delighted if you developed an accessible mahjong game. I think it would be great fun to play, and quite a nice digression from the games I so often see available. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, You are probably right. I've never played Toodle Tiles myself, but by the childish sounding name I seriously doubt it is anything like Mahjong despite what their documentation says. APH always strikes me as treating blind users as either extremely old, or just barely above infantile. So its probably not what we expect. However, as for writing a Mahjong game I don't have a good enough grasp of the game to develop it myself without some research. However, Linux has a couple of good open source versions which I might hack for an accessible Mahjong game. If I can get the basic rules/mechanics and the AI used I could in theory build a Windows version with Sapi support. Cheers! On 6/2/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. You mentioned a game called Mahjong solitare. Being a matching game for a single player, I bet toodle tiles is based on the rules of that, rather than the rules of actual mahjong, though it's a little bad that aph claime! it to be based on the ancient chinese game in their documentation. The real problem I think, is none of the programmers who have made really good computer adaptations of other card, board, or puzzle games have experience with Mahjong, it being a much less popular game in the west, so couldn't write an adaptation for the computer, indeed I seem to remember in the faq for the spoonbill games Ian humphries saying that he didn't have enough knolidge of Mahjong to make a Bg version. there are of course plenty of inaccessible ones, indeed I was quite stunned when i viewed the full! list of snes games including Japanese only releases, and found just how many mahjong games were released for the console, but that doesn't really help any visually impared players who want to either play, or learn the game. This is a shame. I learned Euchre and spades from the blind adrenaline versions, and really enjoy eucher, and I learnt backgammon from the pontes backgammon game and have just bought a tactile board to play with friends, so a computerized accessible Mahjong would also be a nice way to introduce the game to people like myself who hadn't played it before but might well enjoy it. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi Dark, Good questions. The tiles stand on their ends facing you. It isn't at all precarious because the tiles are fairly thick, and so are steady and won't topple over. A sighted person just scans their tiles and organizes them how they wish. Most of the time your hand is concealed, so no one else can see the tiles because they're facing you. You receive more points when you go out if all of your tiles have remained concealed. But if I call for someone's discard, then I must display the tiles in my hand that match the tile I just called for. Now I turn the tiles that I had to reveal so that everyone can see them, but I don't have to reveal the rest of my hand. This is one reason that many players don't call for discarded tiles; they must reveal that portion of the hand that would use them, and they get fewer points if they match all of their tiles because a portion of their hand is now displayed. By the way, I am currently playing mahjong with cards. Most sighted people don't use the cards unless they're traveling, and cannot conveniently carry a mahjong set. The mahjong set I just bought weighs about 18 pounds and might fit in a backpack. My intent is to use Dymo tape to Braille the top of the tiles so that I can just draw my finger across the top of the tiles. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Nancy. Unfortunately bookshare isn't available in the Uk, so I can't read that book, it is however interesting that the conception of the game as ancient isn't entirely wrong. Just one question, if you are making a pattern, which presumably you actually lay out in front of you, couldn't people see what you are doing, and so not disgard something? and if you can only take a disgard when it will be helpful, and not for instance on the basis that you have one of another type and want a paire, isn't it quite obvious what your looking for? Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, What is also ironic is that mahjong is not an ancient game. This misconception isn't spread just by APH, though; we see it in much of the literature of mahjong. It actually came into being in the 1850's in China, and was brought to the U.S. in about 1910. There's actually a good book from Bookshare on the game. It's written by Tom Sloper, and is called The Red Dragon and the West Wind, I believe. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi. You mentioned a game called Mahjong solitare. Being a matching game for a single player, I bet toodle tiles is based on the rules of that, rather than the rules of actual mahjong, though it's a little bad that aph claime! it to be based on the ancient chinese game in their documentation. The real problem I think, is none of the programmers who have made really good computer adaptations of other card, board, or puzzle games have experience with Mahjong, it being a much less popular game in the west, so couldn't write an adaptation for the computer, indeed I seem to remember in the faq for the spoonbill games Ian humphries saying that he didn't have enough knolidge of Mahjong to make a Bg version. there are of course plenty of inaccessible ones, indeed I was quite stunned when i viewed the full! list of snes games including Japanese only releases, and found just how many mahjong games were released for the console, but that doesn't really help any visually impared players who want to either play, or learn the game. This is a shame. I learned Euchre and spades from the blind adrenaline versions, and really enjoy eucher, and I learnt backgammon from the pontes backgammon game and have just bought a tactile board to play with friends, so a computerized accessible Mahjong would also be a nice way to introduce the game to people like myself who hadn't played it before but might well enjoy it. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list
[Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong
Hi There, I would love to find accessible versions of these games, either on Windows 7 or iPhone (or even on the Braille Sense, but since that seems unlikely, I'll keep my fingers crossed for the other two). Please let me know if there's anything available. Thanks, Nancy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Happy New Year! I hope that 2012 brings us many good games, and many good times in the rest of life as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 7:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] HAPPY NEW YEAR! Hello Michael and everyone on this list, Happy new year as well. I also hope that 2012 is a better year for all. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 5:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] HAPPY NEW YEAR! Hello, All gamers. I would like to wish everyone out there a Happy New Year! I hope that 2012 will be a better year for all of us blind gamers. I hope that we get to see alot of great things from the different developers of accessible games! So I hope you all have a wonderful New Year holiday! -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT competition - Types of Games
Good Afternoon, The possible BGT competition has me thinking, and I have two very general questions. First, can BGT be used to design any type of game? For instance, card game to aircraft simulator? If not, what limitations should I be aware of? (I intend to do more research this weekend, but I wanted a general assessment of the tool's capabilities.) And second, what types of games would you like to see? Before you answer, let me tell you a bit about me and my constraints. I am highly unlikely to build a first-person shooter, or any standard arcade style game. There are likely others who know far more about designing such games than I do. What I bring to the table is extensive knowledge of board and card games, as well as role-playing games. It seems likely that for a competition I'd start with something like a board or card game, because these are somewhat more static, while a role-playing game would be very dynamic. Are there particular board or card games you'd love to play, games that are not represented at all in the blindness community at the moment? For instance, I used to love playing Risk, and I've never seen an accessible Risk game. Similarly, there are tons of unusual games published every year, from Carcassonne to Ticket to Ride, Dominion to Qwarriors. If you don't know of a specific game you'd like to see, is there a type of game that might interest you: a dice game, kingdom building game, card game, etc.? And with all that in mind, will BGT allow me to design games that can be played over the Internet, so that players can play against one another, or should I aim for a game where you play against the computer? Many thanks for any input you can offer. Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT competition - any interest? Whether there'd be enough interest (or indeed time in Philip's schedule) to justify such a framework is debatable, but how about this. People vote by rating games out of 10 on different aspects, as in a score of 10 is this is killer, a score of 5 is it ticks the boxes and a score of 1 is meh, not so much. A few categories that would apply across the board to most genre of games I can think of would be originality, replayability, sound design, stability (you'd need a catchier title for that one), and perhaps round it off with a very generalised overall, how awesome is this game question. That way, the categories combine to make it fairer. A Bop IT clone might recieve low marks from most people for originality, but there's room for an inovative genius to step up to the mark with a Bop IT clone that turns out to be totally addictive and they'll get the credit they deserve for replayability. Similarly, games that are great can shine even with bad sound design, or awesome sound design can still stand out as what it is even if the gaming experience ends up being a bit drab. I suggested the overall awesomeness category because, for me at least, there have been games I've loved or gone back to time and again but I can't always explain why. It'd be a balancing act, but with the scores being made public, I think there could be a fair system here. Scott On 12/28/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, That was basically my concern as well. How do you judge between say a new clone of BopIt and say a modern remake of Castlevania or something like that. The games are so completely different in design, different genres, etc that there needs to be some criteria here for submissions I think. Cheers! On 12/28/11, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: I am likely to participate, but I have two concerns. 1. The free version does not allow for mouse control, which is one of the current innovation tools we are seeing in games such as RailRacer and Swamp. I'm not willing to spend $99 to participate in a contest more effectively by having access to these controls. 2. I think it will be difficult to judge different game types against one another. What criteria will you use? How will you define innovative, and how will completely different game genres be comparable? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] BGT competition - any interest?
Hi Philip, I'd be interested in giving this a try. I'd have to familiarize myself with BGT, though, and that could take a little time. I assume there's a BGT version we can use without purchasing the software. What limitations does it have? Links to information on getting started with BGT would be welcome so that I can explore it before such a contest begins. Thanks, Nancy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 5:43 AM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT competition - any interest? Hi Philip, Count me in. I'd be interested in entering a contest like this. Although, not sure that I can create a game in a month given I haven't studied up on the BGT scripting language much. So I'd need a little time to get the basics down first. However, its a great idea. Cheers! On 12/26/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all, I wanted to see whether there is an interest among the existing or potentially interested users of the BGT engine, in a competition that I am thinking of arranging. It would go under thane name The BGT Month Marathon, and the objective would be to create an audio game within one month. The public would then vote on a few aspects of each game such as sound quality, stability, playability, innovation, etc. All of these scores would be added up to form the final score for each game, and the one with the highest over-all score would win. The contestants would of course be able to vote as well, on anything other than their own creation. The prise would be a free license of BGT Pro Unlimited. So why am I holding this competition, and giving away a prise worth 400 dollars? For one simple reason. I want to encourage the use of the BGT engine to create new and exciting games. If we can bring some fun into the creation process as well, then all the better! Now, I wanted to see what you all think of this idea? I have not planned out all of the details yet, nor am I 100 % certain that I will go ahead with the competition. However, if the interest is great enough, then I'll definitely run with it. If you are interested, please also specify whether you would participate if we went ahead. If I get 4 or more interested participants, then I will be certain to get rolling as early as January. Thanks for reading and let me know your thoughts! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Finding Good Web-Based Games
Hi, This discussion about the top 25 best games for the blind has me intrigued. As a blind gamer, I'm interested in the best games for the blind, regardless of who developed them or what their motivation was. What this means for me is that I pay for my Blind Adrenaline membership, and I have the RS Games client on my PC. I also played Entombed avidly when it came out, and wish there were more games like that one being developed. On the other hand, I have numerous games on my iPhone that just happen to be accessible, either because the developer achieved it accidentally, or because they agreed to help when the blind community reached out to them. Examples include 7 Little Words, Moxie, Word Warp, King of Dragon Pass, Frotz and so forth. Whenever someone makes a list, top 25 games of the year, for instance, they get to define their criteria for that list. I may or may not agree with their approach, but I always like to see the results, since I might learn about a new game that I'd never considered. Web-based gaming is particularly intriguing to me. I would be interested in the opinions of those who play such games as to which ones they find most enjoyable. I would particularly like to find kingdom building games, or fantasy games where I get to start a character from scratch and take them on quests and adventures, acquiring magic and items and other things as I go. I'd prefer games where the site is mostly or completely accessible, and where I don't have to do a lot of JAWS gymnastics to play, although if the game is particularly good, I'd be willing to sacrifice these criteria. I look forward to your responses. Thanks, Nancy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Proofreading Guidelines was Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?
I agree with this. If someone's message is incomprehensible, I just skip it and move on, and become less likely to read the next message from them. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Venter Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Proofreading Guidelines was Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously? hi. I agree that proofreading should be in the guidelines, but policing this is inpractical. People should just remember that people will ignore them if they are hard to understand. On 12/18/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Meka and all, Back when we were discussing the proofreading guidelines for the list we were considering something very basic that most people should be able to follow without too much explanation. For example, let's take punctuation. Now, we know there are some more advanced punctuation rules such as using colons, semi-colons, and dashes that may be unfamiliar to some of our list members. We would be willing to overlook things like that because there are plenty of people who are sighted that aren't sure where to put a colon or where a semi-colon should be used instead of a comma. However, everyone blind or sighted should be able to know where and when to use basic punctuation rules like periods, questions, and exclamation points. We base this on the fact that anyone over 10 years old in the United States should be able to recognize the difference between a declarative sentence, exclamatory sentence, or question. In fact, my son is only seven years old and he can tell you when and where to put a period or question mark. So its not unreasonable to ask list members---who are likely older than seven---to complete sentences with a period or question mark at a bare minimum. As far as spelling goes it is usually pretty obvious when someone doesn't attempt to proofread a message for spelling errors. One or two can be overlooked but if a message is full of several mistakes its going to be rather obvious that the person has not made any effort to proofread the message before sending. Most e-mail clients such as Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, Microsoft Outlook, etc come with spell checkers so there really isn't an excuse not to spell check a document to get a reasonable amount of accuracy on the final draft. The same holds true for grammar. Its a given certain words can be very confusing for a blind user. The English language is full of words that sound alike but have totally different meanings such as: to, too, two, there, their, they're, sale, sail, here, hear, stake, steak, where, and wear.Some spell checkers will catch the grammatical mistake, but some won't. In a case like that a moderator would overlook the mistake as long as the message was otherwise pretty free of errors. Trust me when I say we understand how something like that could be confusing if a person is using speech instead of braille or visual reinforcement. If it is something more obvious like a double negative the moderator could write the person off list suggesting how to restate the sentence so it is more grammatically correct. The purpose wouldn't be to put the person down but merely to instruct them how to improve there language/communication skills. For example, let's assume someone writes, I didn't find no ammo in Shades of Doom. Some people might not realize that is a double negative, is grammatically incorrect, and might just need a reminder how to restructure that sentence to read, I didn't find any ammo in Shades of Doom. That doesn't mean we--the moderators---would hound people, but would merely make recommendations and suggestions that would improve their communication skills. I for one can't see it as anything other than being helpful and an improvement for the person. Of course, a lot depends on if the person wants the help, wants to change, or continue to compose poorly written messages. In a case like that if a person continues to write messages that are difficult to read the moderators would then go to the next step by moderating or banning them from the list until the quality of their posts improves. However, we wouldn't take a serious action like banning them without giving them a number of chances to correct the problems first. Cheers! On 12/17/11, Meka White, LMP m...@melodicmassage.com wrote: I would hope that this would be more of a guideline encouraging people to proofread their emails rather than a hard and fast rule, because where do you draw the line on coming down on someone? One mispelled word? Two? A misused comma? Don't get me wrong, I am a huge proponent of proofing what you write. it's a good, courteous habit to start laying down, but do you really want to create that much more work for yourselves? Warmly, Meka --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you
Re: [Audyssey] SilverSword PDF from SilverSword-rpg.com isaccessible.Was: RE: Silversword question
Agreed. Instead, I send PDFs like these to OpenBook, and it OCRs them for me, some quite well, and others poorly. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Keith S Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SilverSword PDF from SilverSword-rpg.com isaccessible.Was: RE: Silversword question I'm sure you all are aware of this, but some .pdf files are actually scanned images placed in a .pdf format, which adobe whatever cannot read. It will tell you that it needs OCR. Just wanted to make that clear. I've got most of the RIFTS RPG books in .pdf format, and they are apparently scanned images. You could print out .pdfs like this and then scan them with a program and save as a text file, but who wants to waste the paper, ink, and time? Keith - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SilverSword PDF from SilverSword-rpg.com isaccessible.Was: RE: Silversword question Just a note on pdfs. There are actually two versions of Adoboy acrobat reader, an accessibility one and a normal one. They look exactly the same and have the same file names, but one is much better with screen readers and at converting pdfs into text. I in fact only found this out when I noticed that pdfs were working differently on my desktop and laptop, due to me having the accessible version on one and not another. Unfortunately this isn't exactly clear from the Adoby site last I checked, you can however get the accessible version here: http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/reader/ Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Hartley jeremyhart...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:10 AM Subject: [Audyssey] SilverSword PDF from SilverSword-rpg.com is accessible.Was: RE: Silversword question Hi Phil and all, I downloaded the silver sword manual from the silversword-rpg.com site under the downloads section. I am using the latest version of acrobat reader. Not sure which version of acrobat reader you have, but it comes up perfectly fine with links and headings for each section. In fact, I didn't even have to change the reading order. Wonder if Mario already updated the pdf just in the last three hours? If so, wow, that is quick work. By the way, the Game Mechanics you posted from your OCR copy were just as it says in the pdf. Jeremy -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:46 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silversword question Hi Michael, I found a Silversword_help.pdf file but it is graphic and needs an OCR package to convert it to readable text. I wrote to Mario and maybe he will put out a RTF or TXT version. Here is the section about the interface of the game that I used a OCR on, but there may be scanning errors: About the mechanics Silversword is a game in the genre of The Bards Tale. This means, it tries to simulate a roleplaying session like you might know from Dungeons Dragons. you control a group (your party') of up to seven members. The first four slots are melee slots, meaning that this is the front line when facing enemies. The last three slots are the members in the second row, they have to use ranged weapons, special items or magic spells to participate in combat. Starting the game After having installed and started the game,you are taken to the Ruin Camp. In the Ruin Camp,you can find new heroes to join you on your adventure. It might happen that your party is already filled with some brave fellows, but you can of course create your own characters. General interaction you play the game by touching the elements on the screen. 4- Cross-hair panel 4- Cast Spell 4- Use Item 4- play Song Spell Effects 4- Show Map +mob Settings A touchable area in the text output (upper right side of the screen) is marked by brackets (e.g. [ Touch me ]). We will call it Link from now on. you can move by touching the view (upper left side of the screen) on its upper half, or at its sides. But it is more elegant to use the cross-hair panel, which you can activate by touching the cross-hair symbol on the upper right side of your screen. Change the position of the cross-hair panel by touching and dragging the symbol. you go into character view by simply touching a character new in your party roster, which fills up the lower half of your screen. To change order or to rename or discard a character, see the section Managing your party. By touching the Spell Effects area,you can get an overview of active spell effects that are summoned by
Re: [Audyssey] castaways
Actually, it has the link to the game in it, which I thought was what was requested. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Alfredo Castaneda Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] castaways Hello, your message is blank, all except for the signature at the bottom. Grin From: simod...@googlemail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:40:05 +0100 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] castaways www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/castaways.zip Simon msn: simod...@hotmail.com skype, slifinger fortis et egregious - Original Message - From: Alfredo birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] castaways That is precisely what I have asked yesterday, but have not heard back yet. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5969 (20110320) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5969 (20110320) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BlindAdrenaline
Hi, As it turns out, it didn't go to spam. It looks like I never received it. Che helped me out, and said that sometimes the Email never arrives at all, and he intends to revamp that piece of the system. By the way, getting my passwords did work; the Email came to my Inbox. But because I'd never confirmed my Email address, since I'd never received the confirmation Email, the accounts wouldn't work. Che had to activate the account for me. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindAdrenaline Have you checked your spam folder? The site certainly works, I have an account with them myself, but it's quite possible the confirmation E-mail is sent to your junk or spam folders by the filters you have or by your isp. This is particularly likely if it happened with two E-mail addresses. If i were you, I'd request a password, then check those folders. Hth. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BlindAdrenaline Hi, Does this site actually work? About a year ago, I tried to create an account there. It told me I'd receive a confirmation Email, which I never did. So I tried again, using a different Email address this time. Once again, I was told that I would receive a confirmation Email, but I never did. So I requested my password for the old account. It sent it to me. I logged in, using the password that was sent to me, and was told my logon attempt was not successful. It looks like there are good games here, but I've never seen the site work. Is there something I should be doing differently? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BlindAdrenaline
Hi, Does this site actually work? About a year ago, I tried to create an account there. It told me I'd receive a confirmation Email, which I never did. So I tried again, using a different Email address this time. Once again, I was told that I would receive a confirmation Email, but I never did. So I requested my password for the old account. It sent it to me. I logged in, using the password that was sent to me, and was told my logon attempt was not successful. It looks like there are good games here, but I've never seen the site work. Is there something I should be doing differently? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] The Playroom
Hi, I've heard about this site, but I don't know much about it. Is it a subscription site? Are the games good? I saw a review that said that keyboard control was very spotty, and that you'd go to play a card, and actually play a different one than you intended. I love card games and such, but don't want to argue with unpredictability. What games can be found there, and what do people think? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Playroom
I like La Scopa, but I really really really don't want to know about the comings and goings of those not at my table. I had some problems getting into games. I also couldn't find the rules for 1,000 Miles. I like the idea of being able to play these games. I'd love to see hearts and backgammon added, or even pinochle, my favorite game. It all seems like it's still a bit in beta, but I'm intrigued. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:46 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Playroom Hello, There are many good things about the playroom that you can find. Currently, we have about 10 games. 1000Miles, uni, Battleship, Monopoly, Jass La Scopa, Dominoes, Chess, and one more to which I cannot spell. The Playroom is provided to you in three different languages. French, English and Spanish. There is a free table in which you can chat freely. Currently there has been some small complaints about the traffic that comes in about people coming and going, people who join other tables and such. Overall, the playroom is something you should definitely check out. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Win frotz
Hi, I have Frotz installed on my PC. Are there any scripts for it, or settings to make it read only what's new on the screen, or anything like that? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Backgammon
Hi, Is there a good accessible backgammon game out there? I remember purchasing one a few years back, but there've been a few computers between me and that game, and I don't have it anymore. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Backgammon
That's right. I got it from him. I wonder if he has documentation of my purchase. *Ponders* Hey, maybe we could figure a way to play on Skype or Twitter or something. Does that make me even more alien? Grin -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Backgammon Wow! another fan of backgammon. Thought I was as alien and unique a being as Q9. The only accessible version I know of is from Azabat software in the UK. You have to get most of his stuff on cds but you can purchase backgammon separately as a downloadable game. I'm still hoping that Ian Humfreys from Spoonbill Software will eventually create a good free version like he has with Scrabble. Michael Feir Volunteer at The Dam www.thedam.org 2011-- Owner of Silver Smiles Join and share the silver lining in your life. Group home page: http://groups.google.com/group/silver-smiles 2010-- Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/personal-power.html A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:44 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Backgammon Hi, Is there a good accessible backgammon game out there? I remember purchasing one a few years back, but there've been a few computers between me and that game, and I don't have it anymore. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moxie
I got an iPhone 4 on Thursday. I have some games, including Moxie, Moxie 2, Frotz, Choice of the Dragon ... what else do you have? Thanks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of peter Mahach Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moxie I got an iPod touch on monday and I already have 40 something apps. most of them games. I think that says something. lol! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moxie Hi, Yeah, I've heard that. I have a friend up in Canida and she brags about her IPhone all the time. I don't have one myself so can't comment from personal experience, but I have heard there are a lot of nice accessible games coming out for the IPhone which certainly is a good selling point in my book. On 8/20/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: its probably in the apple store I heard a demo on a podcast yesterday. Interestingly there seem to be a lot of iphone games for a relitively new mobile device and these are all accessible or mostly so. they also don't cost more than 2 bucks. makes you wander sometimes about what you use a pc for grin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Night of Parasite
Good Morning, What is this game and where do I find it? Was it fun to play? Thanks for any reviews or information. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
Hey, Lori, Where do you find Elven Quest? I've never heard of it, but it might be fun. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released Oh can't wait, just been listening to a BBC RTadio4 comedy called Elven Quest Really funny, so now it's time to fight! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released Very cool. Just curious though, who's the voice actor for the player comments? He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released Hello Gamers, After a solid month of testing and development Tomb Hunter Mysteries of the Ancients beta 12 is now ready for public testing. Below is a number of changes and updates available in the new beta. Please, remember to uninstall any older releases before installing beta 12. What's New Removed delay when opening doors/statues. The left/right control keys now work with the speak potions, speak torchs, and speak weapon info commands. Fixed bug with losing air when waiding through the water in room 8. Fixed bug with using multiple healing potions. Now, releases the keyboard when the game window is not in focus. Updated sound descriptions menu. Replaced FMOD EX with PB streemway for audio support. Fixed bug with audio panning. Improved audio output. Improved resource management. Added player comments. Added new game intro cutscene. Added a leather bull whip to the game. Fixed a major memory leak caused by closing game sounds incorrectly. Added large chasm sound. Now, the view command identifies weather a chasm is small or large. Fixed the crash dialog on exit. Fixed some compatability issues with 64 byt versions of XP/Vista/Windows 7. Replaced standard C++ random generator with the Mersenne Twister random generator. Downloading Beta 12 As always you can download the new beta of Mysteries of the Ancients from our product page http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php. Happy gaming! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP
I would like to agree with this. I think BGT is highly relevant to this list. Please allow discussions to continue; for those not interested, the delete key works well. I suspect we've all had to delete messages we weren't interested in. That's the beauty of a list; many topics and ideas can be discussed, and you participate in those that are of interest to you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:24 PM To: tate...@gmail.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP Hi ann, Amen to that! There is no actual reason this should be removed from the list. Those of you who arecomplaining could just as well chosen to complain about posting topics related to MOTA or Q9, it just so happens it is BGT. I for one agree, and I do not want to have to go to a forum in order to look at info about the BGT. I for one have ran across topics that held no interest for me, it's simple...press delete. Best regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP hello everyone, I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and how to use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I ever be a computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very interested in this tool which may allow those of us who have no interest in becoming computer programmers the ability to create games. I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this list, the statement about my having no interest in actual computer programming, I mean.. I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the list. I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where ninety-nine percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I want to have to join and remember to visit some web forum to learn more about his tool exclusively. . If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't open the emails and read them. Hit the Delete key on any with BGT in the subject line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will get a good many of them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run across many messages which hold no interest for us, but we deal with it. Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this list. It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in a while is to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a wonderful new game tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the email traffic will slow down yet again. ~Ann T On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote: Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY too many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I mean is - there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you should be discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get me wrong - this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the lay-person be able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is that THIS list is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games that Thomas, Phil, Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given away for free. What tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98% of the emails over the last couple of days have only been about how to use Phil's toolkit, how to write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE either email the developers personally, sign up for the PROGRAMMING list (one of which is: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your own list so that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that are ALREADY DEVELOPED. Thank you. Anne W. sighted audio gamer --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
[Audyssey] Programming Language for Game Design
Good Morning, Currently, I am a mainframe programmer who uses COBOL, CICS and JCL. I've been tempted to design a few of my own games, but I'd like to do so on a Windows 7 machine, not the big mainframe we use at work. Initially, I'd like to design things that you play alone, against a computer, but one day I'd like to branch out into games that you could play on-line, against other people. What is the best language to learn in order to accomplish these tasks? In addition to a programming language for creating the game, what else would I need to know, down the road, in order to make the games multi-player? Thanks for any advice. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beta version 0.1 of the blastbay Game Toolkit released!
I have to agree. I haven't listened to the entire manual, but for what I did listen to, the reader was excellent. And I dutifully wrote my Hello, world script. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beta version 0.1 of the blastbay Game Toolkit released! Hi Philip, All I can say is awesome job. I've just finished reading the language tutorial, and as you said the scripting language is a stripped down version of C++. The scripting language rocks as it is so close to C++ I felt like I could jump in and start coding without the language manual although I did so to get an overview of what I'm in for. I must say the reader did a very nice job reading the manual. Great work so far. Cheers! On 3/24/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all! I am very happy to announce the availability of beta version 0.1 of the Blastbay Game Toolkit (BGT). This tool allows users with no prior programming experience to dive in and create audio games from the ground up, using an incredibly versatile scripting language that in turn controls the powerful Blastbay game engine that you've already seen in titles such as Q9 and Kringle Crash. The tool ships with extensive documentation as well as an in-depth language tutorial, which also is available in audio form narrated by a professional voiceover artist. The tool is still in testing and active development, and so I would love to hear your thoughts, suggestions and any other feedback that springs to mind... So head over to www.blastbay.com right now! I will be patrolling the forum there, ready to answer any questions that you may have. So don't hesitate to sign up and ask questions if you get stuck and, above all, have lots of fun making new and exciting games! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming Language for Game Design
I'm definitely interested in audio game development. I consider it fortuitous that my request for info appeared the same day as I saw your info on BGT. I've downloaded it, and started through the tutorial. I like the approach of starting with BGT. I've never used C++, so hopefully I can get my feet under me with BGT, and then move on to a full-fledged C++ once I'm ready. Thanks for putting this all together. I'm eager to try it. I'm going to start with a dice roller. There are board games out there like Descent, and role-playing games like the new edition of Warhammer, which have very specialized dice, and special methods for tallying them. I can't read my own dice results with these special dice, so I will create a dice generator. Probably far simpler than you envisioned when you designed BGT, but a starting point. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming Language for Game Design Hello there, Personally I use C++ and would recommend it to anyone wanting to expand as much as possible, but a few simpler solutions might be one of the .net languages or even my game scripting engine BGT. This will support networking eventually, but it all depends on how far you want to go. C++ will let you do virtually anything, while BGT is specifically geared towards audio game development. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Programming Language for Game Design Good Morning, Currently, I am a mainframe programmer who uses COBOL, CICS and JCL. I've been tempted to design a few of my own games, but I'd like to do so on a Windows 7 machine, not the big mainframe we use at work. Initially, I'd like to design things that you play alone, against a computer, but one day I'd like to branch out into games that you could play on-line, against other people. What is the best language to learn in order to accomplish these tasks? In addition to a programming language for creating the game, what else would I need to know, down the road, in order to make the games multi-player? Thanks for any advice. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Bgt development question
I'm definitely looking forward to all of the developments you're discussing. Networking and file writing will both be important to my eventual plans. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bgt developement question Hi Dark, I will indeed be adding file reading and writing, which would certainly make it possible for you to output html pages if you wished to do so. And of course, you could read them back as well. As for Sapi support, that's also on the to do list along with networking. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Bgt developement question Hi. I was wondering about two eventual bgt interactions which it doesn't seam to do at the moment, heck, it might already. Firstly, will Bgt be able to interact with html pages? ie, write some text to an html page, or respond to clicking of a link or button. I ask this because one thing I've wanted to do for a very long time indeed is write a single player, textual rpg game similar to Sryth. Even if hosting or online play is impossible, I was wondering about a situation where you downloaded the games' html files and played through them directly on your harddrive. Could bgt scripts handle all the calculation and logic required? Failing this, how about sapi? would it be possible to have bgt output to sapi, and thus create something along the lines of entombed? appologies if both of these are impossible obviously I'm just working things out, however I've had complex and systematic notions for an exploration rpg in mind for a long while, and I'd love to be able to make them into a reality! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beta version 0.1 of the blastbay GameToolkitreleased!
Oh, I say leave the semicolons in. From my perspective, C++ is a new language, and the semicolon is just a syntactical requirement. After all, I have to put periods at the ends of my COBOL statements. (Actually, they're no longer required, but I'm working with people who've been programming in COBOL for 25 years, so from their perspective, the period is required.) Seriously, though, I think that retaining the syntactical rules is probably a good idea. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beta version 0.1 of the blastbay GameToolkitreleased! Hi, I hope not. I've been programming in C-Style languages for about 15 years and semi-colons are second nature to me. Taking them out would totally screw me up. in fact, that is one reason I suck at languages like Python as my habit is to terminate a statement with a semi-colon and Python starts screaming at me it is wrong. I realise this is a personal opinion, but I absolutely hate Python and any language that doesn't use a strong C-Style syntax. Smile. On 3/24/10, Andy musicproa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi phil, I know this is totally not conforming to C++ syntax, but is it possible (or do you have plans) to make semicolons optional in the final release? Languages like Python, for instance, don't use such things, and it's kind of confusing, with with if statements not needing them and pretty much everything else needing them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
I agree. You'll never convince them, and they'll continue to be obnoxious for as long as they realize it annoys you. They're not worth your time. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] More Entombed Questions
OK, I was running around on levels four and five. First, when going down to level five, I was told the stairway branches, and to pick between the mines and Goblin Town, or something like that. I picked the mines. When I came back from level five, the stairway didn't branch anymore, and I couldn't go to the Goblin Town, or whatever it was called. Is that expected? Second, I have two quests on levels four and five. I don't think I saw either of them, though. I suspect I'm not doing the searching right, as I've never seen it work. How do you search and make it effective? Am I missing whole sections of these levels? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead!
I lost to the drake. Rather spectacularly, too. Much fun. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:51 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead! Hi Shaun, N ! Don't tell me that! I am about to get to that battle! grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead! what about the end boss. that thing can take loads of dammage. At 05:08 p.m. 7/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Thomas, Ya got that right; look at the elementals and the hall of allusions! Shutter Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead! Hi, Lol! Let's certainly hope not. One of those Drake's is bad enough as it is, and he isn't even the worst of the bosses in the dungeon. On 3/6/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Lol! That is funny, but... Is that the wicked Drake of the west I see on the horrizen? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A Few Quick Entombed Questions
I just bought the game. I hear there's an upgrade from 1.0. How do I find it? And could someone give me the subscription address for the Entombed mailing list. The address I received doesn't seem to work. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead!
Currently, I'm playing a necromancer/assassin. A lot of fun. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Drake is Dead! Tat ta way to do it! Nice going tom, though I have to admit this does make me think of just how useful the assassin class and crytical hits is. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dominion
Ah heck, if you're a nerd, I'll happily jump on the bandwagon with you. This looks very interesting. How much time on a daily basis do you think it takes to play? As I said, it looks interesting, but I don't want to commit to something and not be able to follow through. Nonetheless, I'm already tempted. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 4:18 PM To: gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] dominion Hello, I suppose this will show the nerdy side of me, or confirm it, but if anyone is interested in playing a completely accessible online RPG strategy game, you should check out Dominion. The rounds run for seven weeks at a time, and a new round is set to start this weekend. More information is at: http://www.kamikazegames.com/dominion/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Monopoly
I noticed a bug in the Monopoly game. When a person goes bankrupt, and is removed from the game, it skips the next player. I played two games this morning, and it happened to me twice in the first game, and once in the second. I've excerpted portions of the transcript below, so that you can see what I mean. Elicia (a bot) goes bankrupt. It tells me that it's my turn, a few chat messages are exchanged, but I never get my turn. It goes straight to Ramiro. In addition, there seems to be a quirk with the houses and hotels. All 32 houses were gone, that's true, but we still had hotels available. But it wouldn't allow us to upgrade to hotels; it kept saying that you couldn't add a fourth house, even though the properties already had 4 houses, and we were trying to upgrade to hotels. It is now Elicia's turn. Elicia unmortgages Saint Charles Place for $77. Elicia rolls 6, 5. Elicia moves eleven spaces. He lands on Park Place. It is a Blue property. It is owned by ramiro, and it has a hotel. Elicia must pay rent of $1500. Elicia is bankrupt! Elicia is out of the game! It is now Loravara's turn. Elicia is watching. It is now ramiro's turn. Loravara is typing a message. Message from Loravara: I bet I'll join him shortly. Grin raaj is typing a message. Message from raaj: hey take it easy. Ramiro rolls 1, 3. Ramiro moves four spaces. He lands on Connecticut Avenue. It is a Light Blue property. It is owned by raaj, and has two houses on it. Ramiro must pay rent of $100. It is now raaj's turn. It is now Elicia's turn. Elicia unmortgages Saint Charles Place for $77. Elicia rolls 6, 5. Elicia moves eleven spaces. He lands on Park Place. It is a Blue property. It is owned by ramiro, and it has a hotel. Elicia must pay rent of $1500. Elicia is bankrupt! Elicia is out of the game! It is now Loravara's turn. Elicia is watching. It is now ramiro's turn. Loravara is typing a message. Message from Loravara: I bet I'll join him shortly. Grin raaj is typing a message. Message from raaj: hey take it easy. Ramiro rolls 1, 3. Ramiro moves four spaces. He lands on Connecticut Avenue. It is a Light Blue property. It is owned by raaj, and has two houses on it. Ramiro must pay rent of $100. It is now raaj's turn. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch
But when I try F3 and F4, or F5 and F6, nothing happens. The level of the sound does not change. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of djc Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:07 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch Sure just press f3 to turn the music down or all the way off. f4 will turn it back up. F5 and f6 do the same for the sounds. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/21/2010 at 8:56 PM Nancy \(Loravara\) wrote: Is there a way to silence the music in the game? When I try to turn the volume down for the music, nothing happens. I would like to turn it off altogether. I like the sound effects, just not the music. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch Hi Brandon, Thank you for the feature suggestion. You will now get connection notices of people when you are not in a game. Enjoy. -Ryan On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: what would be nice to see in a future version is a notification when someone connects or disconnects without being in a game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Please Join Me For djc's Jukebox Tuesday and Thursday Afternoons from 1 to 3 Pm Eastern, And On Saturday Nights from 9 to midnight Eastern: http://legend-oldies.com Please feel free to follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/djc500 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch
Is there a way to silence the music in the game? When I try to turn the volume down for the music, nothing happens. I would like to turn it off altogether. I like the sound effects, just not the music. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch Hi Brandon, Thank you for the feature suggestion. You will now get connection notices of people when you are not in a game. Enjoy. -Ryan On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: what would be nice to see in a future version is a notification when someone connects or disconnects without being in a game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games
Hi, Thomas, I just installed BG Cribbage under Windows 7, and it worked fine. I played one full game of Cribbage to see if I experienced any problems, and it worked flawlessly. Anna makes a good reader, and the game was fun. The only thing I did differently during the install is that I installed the game in C:\Program Files (X86). This is the folder for 32-bit applications, and I just assumed that all of the BG games would be. With that done, it was fine. Thanks for the info on the voices. I'll look into this eventually, to see if they have any voices I want to buy. Take care, and thanks for your help. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Hi Lora, I don't know about anyone else but I've had some problems with the Spoonbill games under Vista and Windows 7. I've as yet not been able to figure out what exactly the problem is so am unable to give suggestions as to how to solve the issues I've had. As far as voices goes Microsoft Sam, Mary, and Mike all were dropped in favor of Microsoft Anna when Sapi 5.3 came out for Windows Vista. So in short a brand new Windows 7 installation only comes with Microsoft Anna installed. That's fine by me as she is a better voice than Microsoft's older Sapi 5 voices. As far as getting more voices goes that depends on how much you want to spend and the quality of the voice you want. One place that makes Sapi 5 voices is http://www.cepstral.com and there voices are decent and are fairly inexpensive as far as voices goes. Generally, they are $30.00 USD per voice. Another site that sells voices is http://www.nextup.com and they have several good voices for sale from ATT, Cepstral, Realspeak, etc. The only thing you need to be aware of is some are for Sapi 5, which you want, and some are specifically designed for their own products like Weather Aloud, Text Aloud, News Aloud, etc. HTH On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 15:38 -0700, Nancy (Loravara) wrote: Thanks to you and Jacob both. I just sent Ian an Email. Will these work under Windows 7? Do I need to do anything special to make them work? And ... on his Web site he talks about text to speech voices, and how Sam isn't the best of voices. What TTS voices does Windows 7 come with? How do I install others? How do I find out which voices I have? I apologize; I am a very new Windows 7 user. I tried to find a Speech tab under Control Panel, but the layout is definitely different for Control Panel now. If anyone can walk me through how to configure Windows 7 better for JAWS 11, I'd be delighted to learn (or point me at a link that can set me straight). Thanks again for your help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch
Hi, Ryan, Nice job on the patch. I installed the newest version of Monopoly, and it works fine under Windows 7, and correctly auto detected and used JAWS. Thanks for the work on this! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] RSGames Monopoly Patch Hi Gamers, We have just released a patch to Monopoly PC version that contains many bug fixes (which makes the game run more smoothly). We have added some new features, such as token locations and being able to view your assets when it is not your turn. We have also added System Access support and have improved support with Jaws. You can find it at www.rsgames.co.nr Enjoy. -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games
Thanks, Thomas. I downloaded all six of the games you had up there. And I got Cribbage from Ian, so now I'm down to only four games that I wanted. Not bad at all. Thanks for your help. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Hi Lora, I don't have all of the Spoonbil games up yet, but you can grab several of them from my web site at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/spoonbill-games/ and that might give you a good start. HTH On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 15:09 -0700, Nancy (Loravara) wrote: Hi, I used to have all of the BG games, like Hearts and Sudoku and such. I no longer have them, as I just replaced my computer after an unhappy computer crash. How do I go about getting all of these games back? Thanks. Lora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games
Hi, I used to have all of the BG games, like Hearts and Sudoku and such. I no longer have them, as I just replaced my computer after an unhappy computer crash. How do I go about getting all of these games back? Thanks. Lora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Accessible PS3 Games
I recently bought a PS3 console. Originally I bought it for the DVD/Blue-Ray capabilities. Now I begin to wonder what games I might be able to play with it. I love board and card games, and would love a role-playing game that I could play. I'm not into sports games at all. I'm willing to try other types of games as well. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a free game with Windows 7
Hi, Thomas, Card games? How do I find them? Every time I look for Games in Windows 7, I keep finding the HP games, which don't look terribly accessible. But if we can find an accessible Windows card game or two, I'd love to give them a try. Thanks. Lora -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:31 AM To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a free game with Windows 7 Hi Charles, it is true. Not only does Microsoft's Chess game work fairly well with screen readers their card games are fairly accessible as well. On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:51 -1000, Charles Rivard wrote: I received the following in my inbox. I am still using XP Home edition, so cannot comment or verify this, but would like some info to pass on to the Email group dealing with chess from which this Email came. If anyone knows about this, let me, and other gamers, know? Thanks. Here's what I got from the list: Windows 7 comes with a free chess game that actually works with JAWS! Unfortunately this won't apply for XP/Vista users. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games
Thanks to you and Jacob both. I just sent Ian an Email. Will these work under Windows 7? Do I need to do anything special to make them work? And ... on his Web site he talks about text to speech voices, and how Sam isn't the best of voices. What TTS voices does Windows 7 come with? How do I install others? How do I find out which voices I have? I apologize; I am a very new Windows 7 user. I tried to find a Speech tab under Control Panel, but the layout is definitely different for Control Panel now. If anyone can walk me through how to configure Windows 7 better for JAWS 11, I'd be delighted to learn (or point me at a link that can set me straight). Thanks again for your help. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Tom ward has also uploaded some of thm to his index, and they may be found at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/spoonbill-games/ This isn't all by any means, so your probably stil best of E-mailing Ian humphries. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games They're mostly listed in the drop down box on audiogames.net. Seems you will still most likely have to send a request to have them emailed to you from spoonville games though. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Nancy (Loravara) lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:09 AM Subject: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Hi, I used to have all of the BG games, like Hearts and Sudoku and such. I no longer have them, as I just replaced my computer after an unhappy computer crash. How do I go about getting all of these games back? Thanks. Lora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4784 (20100118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4784 (20100118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games
Thanks, Jacob. I have transferred straight from XP to Windows 7. I'm not used to the search box. I did type in TTS, and found that I have only Anna, but a voice preview confirms what you said, She sounds pretty darned good. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Windows 7 comes with microsoft Anna - and she's not bad at all. Unfortunately I'm not on my windows 7 machine at the moment, but seems best to try typing different things in the search box on the start menu, and then trying arrowing up and down. You could either try the word speech, or something like TTS. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Nancy (Loravara) lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Thanks to you and Jacob both. I just sent Ian an Email. Will these work under Windows 7? Do I need to do anything special to make them work? And ... on his Web site he talks about text to speech voices, and how Sam isn't the best of voices. What TTS voices does Windows 7 come with? How do I install others? How do I find out which voices I have? I apologize; I am a very new Windows 7 user. I tried to find a Speech tab under Control Panel, but the layout is definitely different for Control Panel now. If anyone can walk me through how to configure Windows 7 better for JAWS 11, I'd be delighted to learn (or point me at a link that can set me straight). Thanks again for your help. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Tom ward has also uploaded some of thm to his index, and they may be found at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/spoonbill-games/ This isn't all by any means, so your probably stil best of E-mailing Ian humphries. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games They're mostly listed in the drop down box on audiogames.net. Seems you will still most likely have to send a request to have them emailed to you from spoonville games though. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Nancy (Loravara) lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:09 AM Subject: [Audyssey] BG Hearts and Other Games Hi, I used to have all of the BG games, like Hearts and Sudoku and such. I no longer have them, as I just replaced my computer after an unhappy computer crash. How do I go about getting all of these games back? Thanks. Lora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4784 (20100118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4784 (20100118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible PS3 Games
Oh, I'll consider it. That sounds like a great idea. I don't mind memorizing menus. I do it all the time for other things, even for navigating the PS3 menus to play DVDs and such. And the idea of us challenging each other on-line definitely has appeal. *Ponders Amazon* -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible PS3 Games You should buy mortal kombat vs. dc universe, or street fighter iv and we'll have a go at it online *grin*. I doubt many card games are playable actually unless you have some sight. I know that uno came out recently, but doubt we'll be able to play it at all. what level of accessibility are you looking for? there won't be a game that'll be 100% accessible, you'll always need to at least memorize menus and such, but many are playable, especially the fighters. - Original Message - From: Nancy (Loravara) lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible PS3 Games I recently bought a PS3 console. Originally I bought it for the DVD/Blue-Ray capabilities. Now I begin to wonder what games I might be able to play with it. I love board and card games, and would love a role-playing game that I could play. I'm not into sports games at all. I'm willing to try other types of games as well. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Learning to MUD
No problem; and I haven't paid for VIP yet. I'm trying to decide if I want to MUD at all. When I was MUSHing, I used SimpleMU, and loved it. It didn't require any JAWS scripting, or anything special except silencing the status bar, which I did with a frame. I haven't tried MUSHclient in years, though many of my friends swore by it while we were MUSHing. I'll see if I can poke at the Disc help before then, to get some of the basic questions out of the way. Any recommendations on a good character type to start with? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learing to MUD I can probably do that--my choice would probably be disc. I'm not sure how VIP works--I never seen the point in paying for something mush does 1 times better, but I can try to help out. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 - Original Message - From: Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Learing to MUD Hi, I've downloaded VIP Mud, and I'm looking to get into a good MUD. I have all day Sunday to learn. If there's anyone out there willing to show me the ropes, pick your MUD of choice, and drop me a line with the address and port. Thus far, I've found the whole MUDDing experience a bit confusing; I've had trouble even going up one level, and want to learn what options will make the game interesting. I come from a MUSHing background, and the approach seems very different. Let me know if anyone wants to show a newbie around on Sunday. Lora PS: I'm in Denver, Colorado, so U.S Mountain time. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
