Re: [Gimp-user] Separate+ 0.5.8-beta1

2010-08-30 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Yoshinori Yamakawa
y...@yellowmagic.info wrote:
 Hi,

 Separate+ is not a simple RGB-CMYK plug-in any longer.

 I think we have to remove some features and elements (profile selection
 widgets, devicelink profile support, icc_colorspace plug-in and so on)
 if it will be merged into the GIMP 2.8.
 (However, I do not wish for it so much.)

It'd be awesome to have it inside Gimp, though. For one, it'd get more
attention from developers that way, and maybe get more features (like
UCR/GCR, etc) sooner... At least I hope. :P

But if it doesn't end up being part of Gimp, I'm quite happy with it anyway. :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Making Source Code Available

2010-07-23 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 And by the way, why do you need to distribute source code? Did you apply
 changes to it?

You need to. In fact, the sources are supposed to be available to the
end user for 3 years after the user obtains the binary. And you must
ensure they are available, which is taken to mean You must put it
somewhere where you can reasonably control the availability or
something along those lines.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Making Source Code Available

2010-07-23 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay :) So what is the problem of uploading an archive? :)

Usually it's either forgetfulness or lack of knowledge as to GPL
requirements. Also, nobody says you have to distribute source on the
server (but it's easy). You can also give your users a written promise
that you will send them the CD with the source _on request_ and if you
_pay_ for the CD and related costs.


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Re: [Gimp-user] 16-bit - why the long delay?

2010-07-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Claus Cyrny claus.cy...@web.de wrote:
 Ubuntu) have much better anti-aliasing. I really enjoy working with
 the Gimp (currently 2.6.8), but especially 16-bit is really long overdue.

It's overdue, but that won't make it happen any sooner. Let's just
wait it out. Meanwhile, Krita and Cinepaint support 16bit/channel
(iirc), so it's not like it's absolutely impossible. I've heard ufraw
will also use 16bit/ch images. It is said to be a bit picky (TIFFs in
ufraw's preferred format, please), but it can get the job done. For
now, you'll just have to either switch or combine tools.


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Re: [Gimp-user] 3d view?

2010-07-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a plugin to preview/display bumpmaps in 3D?

 Ideally, it could be moved around (like the 3d preiew in the normalmap
 plugin) but renders it as a ocluding heightfield.

 I recall using something like that back in 2.4 but can not find it now.

http://gmic.sourceforge.net/

It's a collection of otherwise very useful plugins, and I think it
does include the thing you're looking for.


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Re: [Gimp-user] What do you use for lettering? How do ya use them?

2010-07-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I'm missing something??  I can view but can't figure out how to use???
 Thanks...

You certainly seem to be missing something. :) What are you trying to do?

Anyway, you probably want to start by RTFMing here:

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-text.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] What do you use for lettering?

2010-07-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I appreciate that Gene, but how do I get GIMP to import or otherwise make
 these fonts available for use?  Thanks much for your help

As I mentioned before, Gimp should pick up any fonts that are
installed in the operating system.


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Re: [Gimp-user] What do you use for lettering?

2010-07-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I don't understand what that means? How do I get these new fonts into the
 operating system? I'm using XP, and sadly am not a computer guru.

 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=install+fonts+windows+xp

Holy shit, Chris. The most beautiful RTFM message ever! :D


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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a bit of help, 2 layer, need to edit

2010-07-03 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Well, you'll recognize me :-)  I've learned much, have copied my picture over
 a background having 2 layers. The picture is semi-transparent, just what I
 want. But the picture has a small part I need to either cut, clear, or somehow
 get rid of. All I can manage to do is Free Select and draw around what I want
 to cut but when I cut the image actually gets more bold and clear. What am I
 missing?  Thanks

I'm not sure what you mean by bold and clear. Usually clear is a
good thing, but you don't seem to like your clear. :)

Anyway, try this method:

http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/526945497/effective-background-extraciton-gimp

Also, when using selection to erase parts of an image, you can control
the softness of the edge by using Select  Feather.


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Re: [Gimp-user] What do you use for lettering?

2010-07-03 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 The range of fonts and such is pretty extensive in GIMP but naturally I can't
 find what I want :-) I'm looking for blocky kind of letters, kinda grafitti.
 Anybody know of a library of fonts and letters maybe? Thanks much.

Something like dafont.com?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Can't get Gimp to work

2010-07-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you trying to run it on a computer?

Haha, funny. :D


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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-07-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Spent many hours of experimenting, using the guidance you gents have given
 and I've learned much.  Greatest feature of GIMP is edit, and the ability to
 go back to before whatever I've done. I used this a lot!!! But, I have
 accomplished what I hoped. Honestly, I'm not sure how I got to the point I'm
 at but I can figure it out again.  But your suggestions were invaluable and
 very much appreciated. I don't like people who download an ap then don't take
 time to read and learn but instead simply 'use' the hard earned expertise of
 others. I'll be making a donation to the developers of GIMP, as it's a
 tremendously powerful piece of software. I'm sure I'll be back with question
 in the future but for now simply, Thank You.

I suppose it won't hurt to post this link:

http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 This is frustrating.  GIMP seems quite simple but obviously first discovery
 isn't intuitive. I successfully copied and layered two photos, I verify by
 reversing the layers, all good. I think I found opacity in the toolbar but I
 change it and there's no difference. I'm thinkin I'm sooo close but am just
 still missing something.  A bit more help I think, and I'll owe a bit of
 whatever you choose to alter your mood :-)

If the lead singer is on white background, and you want the background
image to show where the singer image is white, you might want to cut
the singer out of the white. I've written a tutorial on that here:

http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/526945497/effective-background-extraciton-gimp


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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 I looked at Bing on stage, and that's where I want to go but then make Bing
 transparent so the background shows through. I appreciate your offer, if you
 want to give me an email address I'll send you a 2 layer pic. In my pic you
 can reverse the layers to see both but one is pure white whereas it's actually
 a pic of the singer.  If you don't want to post your email, just send it to
 oneonthee...@yahoo.com.

It's pure white most likely because the singer pic is huge compared to
the background image. So, when you pasted it into the background pic,
only the white part is showing, but the new layer is extending past
the image edge and hidden...


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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Greg A. for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Branko, you're absolutely correct.  I can see where the pic of the singer
 extends way beyond the frame to the right and on the bottom, but I can't
 figure out how to resize that pic to fit the frame?

Select the singer layer in layers palette, and press Shift+T
(transform). You'll be able to scale it either by typing in the
dimensions or using the handles.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote:
 Sorry, I don't think transform will change the size; what you need to
 do, instead, is to select the layer you want to change, and from the
 layers menu, select scale layer.

Sorry, I meant transform as a description for the shortcut T. It's
actually a scale tool.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate increases PNG size x10 ! - next Q

2010-06-25 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote:
 OK, so now the next question is:  If the original is recognised by
 identify as a 1 bit per pixel image, why doesn't Gimp keep it that way
 when opening the file?  At 300dpi there is no real issue with jaggy
 edges - is it just a judgement call that a conversion to grey scale is
 likely to give the best result for most situations and the file size is
 a secondary consideration?

If the image was produced as 1bpp to begin with, I don't think
converting to Greyscale will help a lot. Maybe with rotation, but
otherwise, there should be little advantage.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate increases PNG size x10 !

2010-06-23 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote:
 What is going on with these size increases?

It may be that after rotation, pixels that were otherwise the same
color got anti-aliased and were slightly different color. This would
increase the image size. Can you show us the original scan?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:05 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 22.06.2010 18:42, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 On 6/22/10, yahvuu  wrote:

 Actually, i was thinking of a pure object selection tool without any
 manipulation functionality. Just to choose the current paint context
 without obscuring it, and without having to resort to the layers dialog.

 In the times of transformation tools to be merged and some selection
 tools to be merged as well a tool for just selection sounds a bit
 limiting, don't you think? :)

 not limiting, but liberating ;)
 An object picker nicely complements the unified transformation tool.
 Using the latter to select objects is like taking the sledgehammer to crack a 
 nut:
 it takes quite some attention to select without accidentally moving things and
 additionally, the transform tool's handle will obscure parts of the target.

Don't you think it'd be much better if tools that work on object would
simply do the selection if you, say Alt-click or Ctrl-click an object
with it? Also, a Photoshop-like approach of Alt-right-clicking to open
a menu of all objects/layers that are below the cursor. You don't need
a tool dedicated to the purpose.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:08 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, the problem with the move tool is that it requires attention to
 select a layer without accidentally moving it. You really have to stop
 the mouse and keep it fixed while clicking. Or did i miss some other option?

I use Gimp with a tablet. And you know how tablets are. There's no way
you can stop the cursor in place. But the move tool still doesn't
accidentally move stuff around for me. And I don't think I've got some
serious mouse-fu...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:23 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, possibly it's just me (and i'm not too fond of mice, anyway).
 I actually trained myself to activate the rectangle selection tool
 while doing color adjustments -- after struggling with a serious of
 images which contained miraculously slightly off-moved layers...

Wasn't it easier to just use the layers palette?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:46 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 22.06.2010 21:26, Branko Vukelic wrote:
 Wasn't it easier to just use the layers palette?

 thanks, but i refuse to select layers by their thumbnails in the layers
 dialog,

You can disable the dispay of thumbnails. :

 when i can just click them right there in image!  .-)

With the... move tool. :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:59 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 The active options reads Pick a layer or guide, but when i start dragging,
 the freshly picked layer gets moved.

Don't drag. That's the whole point. I've done some crude testing just
now, and you have to move the mouse like you really mean it in order
to have the drag registered. So your mouse might be too fast or
something or too low-resolution. Try to lower the speed of your mouse
a bit and see if that helps.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-22 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
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 On 6/23/10, yahvuu wrote:

 as a sidenode, it's indeed an interesting question why completely
 overlapping layers get stacked. Probably quite some cases of 'layer abuse'
 can be found in such images.

 Of for god's sake, blending modes weren't invented for nothing :)

Or layer masks.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
SNIPPAGE

I've cut your message since it's been said over and over (and over)
again. Lots of people complaining. I've just two things to say to all
of you who do:

1. Get real.
2. DTP with open-source software: It's been done. Successfully.
Repeatedly. Period.

Good luck.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/21/2010 05:16 PM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:
 My biggest frustration with GIMP is the complete lack of a general object
 selection tool. Not having an arrow tool is counter intuitive to the
 way we've been taught since the Faraday saw the first semiconductor claw
 its way into visibility in 1833.

 There is a specification for such a tool:
 http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Transformation_tool_specification

 Someone just needs to write the code. We won't have time to do that for
 2.8 though.

Oh no! Now I'm gonna kill myself! :

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Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:00 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
 And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK?

I think 2-4 years is more than enough for CMYK (hopefully).

Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. It gets the job done, and very
reliable. Latest version supports clipping paths, and saving to CMYK
TIFF, JPEG, and PSD. I'm not sure about reading those files back into
Gimp, but I think it was mentioned somewhere it can be done. I've
never needed to do it myself, though, so you're on your own.

I've given an overview of the color management in Gimp and part of it
covers basic separate+ usage:

http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/513356271/gimp-color-management-for-dtp


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
 Yes I do DTP with TeX and Scribus. But my question is about CMYK
 on Gimp. When?

Well, if you insist. I must ask you this: why? Forgive me if I err,
but this sounds like one of those You can't be a fancy designer if
you can't do CMYK in your image editing app! arguments. Do you have
some valid reason why you cannot do a decent job with separate+ and
need direct editing capabilities in CMYK mode?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:17 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 As for myself, I've got 2G RAM, and 1G swap space (big mistake, I
 know) on a 64-bit linux. I sometimes run out оf memory/swap on a image
 that is like a little smaller than 3000x3000 when I have more than 20
 layers and couple of hours of work on it. Tile cache is at 1024M.

 Why would you limit your tile-cache size to 1GB if you have 2GB of RAM?

Because I haven't read the howto? :D

 You might want to read http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/tile_cache.html

Thanks for the link.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
 For now we can probably fix it easily for XCF files and with some more
 effort some of the most often used file plug-ins.

Well, as someone else has already pointed out, fixing this for
XCF-only is a good option.


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Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/21/10, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 Meanwhile, give separate+ a go.

 Or CMYKTool

Prokudine,

Veering a bit OT now, I've tried to use CMYKTool, and got an
impression it was a bit redundant for separate+ users. Does it have
anything to add (or do anything differently)?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/21/10, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 Do you have some valid reason why you cannot do a decent
 job with separate+ and need direct editing capabilities in CMYK
 mode?

 In some cases you need direct access to curves. Besides, separate+ has
 neither GCR nor UCR.

Um, good point. I keep forgetting that I mostly do content creation,
rather than old-school image processing. Are there any tools that
provide those features?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/22/10, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 In some cases you need direct access to curves. Besides, separate+ has
 neither GCR nor UCR.

 Um, good point. I keep forgetting that I mostly do content creation,
 rather than old-school image processing. Are there any tools that
 provide those features?

 Krita provides access to CMYK curves, but that's about it. And the
 only free libre tool that knows of UCR is Scribus. No free tool I know
 of handles GCR except Argyll.

And I assume Argyll will do all of above?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:03 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nobody is allowed to die until GIMP is finished!

Unless it's of old age! :D (No offence, developers.)


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Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/22/10, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 Meanwhile, give separate+ a go.

 Or CMYKTool

 Prokudine,

 Vukelic? :)

Sure.

 I don't see how either of them make the other one redundant. Wise
 people use both, depending on what they are trying to achieve.

I will take your advice to heart, oh wise one! :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/22/10, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 Krita provides access to CMYK curves, but that's about it. And the
 only free libre tool that knows of UCR is Scribus. No free tool I know
 of handles GCR except Argyll.

 And I assume Argyll will do all of above?

 Argyl is a color management module with a bunch of console apps :)

I know what it is. And I've read it had some tools to actually
manipulate TIFFs or something. Just haven't really carefully looked at
its functionality.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-21 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/22/10, yahvuu wrote:
 Hey Alexandre,

 hopefully this doesn't compromise your health, but an object picker has
 already been proposed (which is my fault) [1], and for good reason:

 If you take non-destructive editing serious, you inevitably end up with a
 finer granularity of adjustability than with the current scheme -- hence
 objects  [2]. This is not my fault, but GEGL's. Should also produce a little
 relief for those poor little abused layers ;-)

 Well, it looks like slightly improved existing Move tool to me :)

I'd add it wouldn't make a lot of sense without vastly improved vector
paths tool. Otherwise it's much better and simpler to have layer
groups and objects on different layers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-20 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
 It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins
 and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a
 helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It
 is definitely not trivial to fix this.

If this kind of thing cannot be implemented for all formats, then I
guess it is a design flaw. How come things like saving a backup copy
of the target cannot be implemented in a single place for all file
formats? That simply stinks of bad design, sorry. Now, I'll just STFU
since I'm not the one to contribute the patch, and hopefully this has
been already fixed in the devel branch (I remember reading something
about this).

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-20 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:26 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
  I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue 
  than
  a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then
  exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old 
  computer
  with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time
  processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was
  working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too 
  much
  for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :(

 Ooh, that _is_ a big image. What you can do is repartition the hard
 drive to give Linux more swap space. It probably ate up all the swap
 space and killed itself. Even with the large swap space (say 4 or even
 8 G) it will be super-slow (RAM is always faster, obviously), but at
 least it won't die easily.

 3000x3000 is not that large. How much RAM do you have and how is the
 tile-cache size configured in GIMP?

I guess it might be on an older machine OP mentioned.

As for myself, I've got 2G RAM, and 1G swap space (big mistake, I
know) on a 64-bit linux. I sometimes run out оf memory/swap on a image
that is like a little smaller than 3000x3000 when I have more than 20
layers and couple of hours of work on it. Tile cache is at 1024M.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-19 Thread Branko Vukelic
I've one more observation to add to this.

BIG FAT DISCLAMER: Please, _PLEASE_ don't turn this into just another flame war.

Anyway, I don't know if it's just me or not, but Gimp's extremely
stable on Linux. I've seen it crash maybe two or three times in past
year, and it certainly never crashed when saving images... ever. So,
it's another option for those that are having stability issues with
Gimp.

I first noticed this difference when I was told by a windows user
about performance issues with Gimp on Windows, and I installed it at
work to see what it was about. And it is quite different, especially
comparing the antiquated Windows XP to latest Linux distros in 64-bit
incarnations.

I myself run Arch Linux, 64-bit version, with Gimp 2.6.8 (in fact the
modified version called Painters Studio), and stability- or
performance-wize, I've got nothing to complain about, and have
certainly never lost any work.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-19 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue than
 a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then
 exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old computer
 with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time
 processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was
 working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too much
 for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :(

Ooh, that _is_ a big image. What you can do is repartition the hard
drive to give Linux more swap space. It probably ate up all the swap
space and killed itself. Even with the large swap space (say 4 or even
8 G) it will be super-slow (RAM is always faster, obviously), but at
least it won't die easily.

You can also add the system monitor applets to your panel, and monitor
the swap usage (right-click the newly added applet, and you'll find
the appropriate checkbox in the preferences). If swap becomes full,
it's time to save the image and restart Gimp. The history of your
edits contributes to memory usage, so restarting Gimp will free some.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-19 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Also I was really surprised that an auto backup isn't in GIMP already. I used
 to use a really old, backwoods photo editor and it automatically made a 
 backup
 file and autosaved it every ten minutes.

 What you really need for your case is not an auto-backup feature, but
 atomic save operations. Instead of writing over the existing file when
 you save, GIMP should write to a temporary file in the target directory.
 And only if it succeeds in writing this file completely should it move
 the temporary file over the existing file. That way you wouldn't have
 lost your file completely.

 Please feel free to open a bug report for this.

Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup
of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?)
before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Stripes spheres

2010-06-18 Thread Branko Vukelic
I don't think there's an easy way to do it. It has the back as well,
and I bet it was hand-drawn in a vector drawing app like Inkscape.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:21:52 +0200 (CEST)
 Mauricio for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 Hi all,
    I really don't know how to call this kind of image.
    I'm looking for a tutorial to make something like the first image
 you can see in this page:
 http://www.logomyway.com/designerMessage.php?cid=915did=1501
    Any idea?


 Well I guess the trick is to lay out some stripes and then
 Filters-Map-Map to Object. This will give you an idea,
 http://members.pcug.org.au/~rcook/images/stripes.png

 So just experiment with various types of stripes and direction?




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Re: [Gimp-user] RAW film formats.

2010-06-18 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:21 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
 Very good. The specific Krita filter that caught my eye was for Fuji
 RAF raw image. There were about a dozen others for various
 makes of cameras. Does the existing Gimp filter cover all these
 variants?

Last I've heard, Krita's raw format support was based on dcraw, which
is what ufraw uses. So, basically, they should support the same
formats.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Selecting area within area

2010-06-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
The way I usually do it (it depends on the task, though, but in most
cases anyway) is:

1. duplicate the layer
2. do all corrections on the new layer as if I was working on the
portion I'm really interested in
3. mask the new layer to make it fully transparent
4. restore the areas of interest using the brush tool

As I said, this doesn't apply to all situations, but in most cases it
gets the job done, plus I can enable and disable the edited layer at
any time.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using the Fuzzy Select Tool to select an area which is _roughly_
 circular, however no matter how I set the tool I get either too much
 or too little selection. This would be a lot easier if I could specify
 a small section of the image, then let the tool only work in that
 section. Is this possible? Should I simply copy the small section to a
 different layer and work there?

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Re: [Gimp-user] make an octagon shape

2010-06-10 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Tőkés Ábel preobazsensz...@freemail.hu wrote:
 6/9/2010 9:47 PM keltezéssel, Gracia M. Littauer írta:
 I want to make an octagon shaped icon. give me a clue what tool(s) to use

 Hi,

 One way to make an octagon selection in 2 minutes:

A way to make it in 30 seconds is to use Inkscape to draw the shape,
and then import the resulting SVG file straight into Gimp.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Changing a dark colour

2010-06-08 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM, gvernold for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I have an image of a boot footprint which originated from a grayscale image
 in photoshop. I have converted it to RGB. The boot print is really quite dark
 but I want to change it to a light green color.

Are you trying to simply colorize the image? There's a tool called
'Colorize' in the tools menu, and it should work fine in that case.
Move the lightness and saturation sliders towards right, and then pick
the hue you want, and you should get the results you are looking for.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Chrome

2010-06-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Mongoose for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 This could be good, IF I could find the tutorial you mention.  Can you give us
 the title, the URL, or a term to search for?  I tried searching for Chrome

This one looks ok:

http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=gimp_tutorial_metallic_textmore=1c=1tb=1pb=1

Also, try thse keywords

gimp chrome bump

Quite a few pop up.

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Re: [Gimp-user] smooth fine stroke

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:49 AM, bob for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Is it just my eye? My monitor perhaps?
 Or can I get the stroke to appear to be finer?

Try stoking your path using Paintbrush as the method. Before doing
that, select the paintbrush tool, and pick a 1px round brush. See if
that works for you. It produces very smooth output for me.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 The way I do it is:
 1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.

2. Select - Border...
3. Fill new selection with color
4. Enjoy. :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The way I do it is:
 1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.

Sorry, missed one step:

1a: Fill the selection with color.

 2. Select - Border...
 3. Fill new selection with color
 4. Enjoy. :)

+ it might be entirely possible to do a script that does this
automatically. It could take border with from the user, and use FG/BG
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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Cameron Gregory c...@bloke.com wrote:
 In some cases there is also out by one problem.

 Here is a patch for said issue (most noticeable when rounding is 100% (trying 
 to make a pill)

 http://blog.bloke.com/2010/05/patch-for-gimp-select-rounded-rectangle/

The most straightforward way to create a pixel-perfect rounded
rectangle with border I can think of is to use Inkscape
(http://www.inkscape.org/) and import the SVG into Gimp. You get
perfect control over the rounding and border weight + the
rasterization of the SVG eliminates the jaggedness.

Another way I can think of is to convert the rounded selection to
path, stroke it to create the border. This produces acceptable
results, but I've noticed some weird artifacts.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's too bad one has to resort to using other programs for pixel
 perfect borders (as if there ever was such a thing). That means it's
 impossible to write a Script-Fu for it (unless you are *really*
 ambitious) and also that you can't use GIMP's gradients to fill the
 border or the background of the box.

 A sad day this is.

Not as long as you can do it. :) Most FLOSS workflows do require a
certain amount of dedication, imo.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Listequette

2010-05-28 Thread Branko Vukelic
2010/5/28 Jernej Simončič jernej.listso...@ena.si:
 On Fri, 28 May 2010 02:56:38 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:

 Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like Thank
 you were top-posted.

 Most e-mail clients let you read messages by simply pressing the spacebar -
 it'll first scroll through the message, and at the end of message jump to
 the next unread. With such top-posted replies, you have to scroll through
 irrelevant quotes before going to the next message.

I never said you must keep all irrelevant quotes, did I?

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Tom Williams tomd...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thanks for the info!  :)

Tom, there's no need to spam the list with thanks (as far as I'm
concerned), and quote whole messages just to say Thanks. ;)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Listequette

2010-05-27 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Steve VanSlyck s.vansl...@spamcop.net wrote:
 May I offer a respectful and kind suggestion to all? When replying to a
 message, please cut as much of the original message is not relevant to
 your reply. This is especially true when saying thank you - so readers
 don't have to page down through several messages just to see a very brief
 message.

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like Thank
you were top-posted.
So, another suggestion is:

ALWAYS top-post messages that are not replies to any particular
part of the original e-mail, and optionally (and preferably) also snip
the original message short.

Sounds OK?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Listequette

2010-05-27 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Frank Gore g...@friendlyphotozone.com wrote:
 I think guidelines and common sense are probably more useful for
 listequette than hard and fast rules that will always get broken.

No harm in mentioning them, methinks. It's not some hard-to-remember
rule that's even harder not to break, too.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp Brushmakers Guild

2010-05-25 Thread Branko Vukelic
Hi, everyone.

Gimp Brushmakers Guild[1] has been announced officially now[2].
Membership is currently semi-closed. Read the charter[3] at our
group's page.

[1] http://groups.google.com/group/gimp-brushmakers-guild
[2] 
http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/631244948/announcing-gimp-brushmakers-guild
[3] 
http://groups.google.com/group/gimp-brushmakers-guild/web/gimp-brushmakers-guild-charter

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Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - Re: looking for binary software to install - Email found in subject

2010-04-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
John,

If you want to resize the background layer without affecting other
layers, I think you won't find a software package that does that. To
resize all layers, though:

Image - Scale image

To resize only the background, the best you can do, I think is to
paste background layer in another image, and use the option above to
scale that. Then paste it back into the original image, and remove the
original background layer (if you don't need it anymore).

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ma, John (CS - CIS) john...@saskatoon.ca 
wrote:
Hi Chris,

By looking at your documentation, I found how to resize an image as below, 
but still looking for the feature hot to resize the background (the 
underneath layer).  If you know how, please let me know.

 Have you tried Image-Canvas Size?

 If you're new to image editing, you should probably search around for
 GIMP tutorials.  The manual is a must-read as well.

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[Gimp-user] Happy easter

2010-04-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
Happy Easter to all you Christian Gimpers.

We have released Gimp Studio 1.5 for Arch Linux today.

We've updated to GPS 1.4 (thanks Ramon for letting us include it),
included a few more plugins (colortemp, whitepoint) added latest SVN
FX Foundry scripts, David Revoy's ChaosEvolution brush pack, merged
Ramon's and David's tool presets, etc.

Everyone using Arch Linux can follow the install instructions[1] to
get it working. If anyone not using Arch Linux would like to join us
and package Gimp Studio for other platforms, please contact me.

Everyone else, you can get the addons we've included on our Google
Code page[2]. Note that the project is _not_ hosted on Google Code.
Just the big files. The project itself is hosted on codaset[3].

Again, happy holidays.

[1] http://codaset.com/foxbunny/gimp-studio/wiki/install-guide
[2] http://code.google.com/p/gimp-studio/downloads/list
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Re: [Gimp-user] A question that has never been asked....

2010-04-03 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com wrote:
 * Jogchum Reitsma j.reit...@hccnet.nl [04-03-10 16:39]:
 Well, anyone... when there are only native English speakers left on the
 planet. Until then, to me - from the Netherlands - and many others it's
 not offensive at all.

 It is not offensive to *most* English speakers, but several users take
 exception and happen to be quite vocal on *many* occasions giving rebirth
 to the disagreement/debate which they loose again, and again, ...

And it's not even a question of winning or losing. Gimp is just Gimp,
and I'm sure the vast majority of its users are happy to call it that,
so you know... it's pointless to even discuss this.

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Re: [Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:01 AM, TenLeftFingers for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I've noticed (and since learned) that when an RGB graphic is printed on a CMYK
 printer, the output can be much darker - perhaps more saturated?

 Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend modification I should make to
 my images before sending them to the printer. I've considered simply
 brightening the image, but I'm thinking that there might be a smarter
 adjustment to make.

Most CMYK printers (if you mean inkjets and lasers) are actually RGB
printers. So, you can get the most accurate results using a calibrated
monitor, Gimp's color management in Color manged display mode, and
sRGB profile for your image.

You can get better results by calibrating your printer, though.

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[Gimp-user] tool-options directory

2010-04-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
Hi,

As part of Gimp Studio[1], we are now distributing GPS 1.4. It
includes (among other niceties) a directory called tool-options. We
have tried copying this directory to
``/usr/share/gimp/2.0/tool-options``, but Gimp doesn't pick it up, and
no presets are present after installation. For now we are warning
users to copy these options to their home directory, but we thought it
would be nicer if Gimp would pick it up from one of its default
locations.

Does anyone know where else we could place this directory so users do
not have to copy them themselves?

[1] http://codaset.com/foxbunny/gimp-studio

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